Це відео не доступне.
Перепрошуємо.
S680 gets new swing arms! (Cleaning shoe repairs done RIGHT!)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 31 бер 2022
- In this video, I start out by replacing the replacing the feed accelerator belt, rethresher drive chain & idlers, and then get started on the big job of replacing all the chaffer & sieve frame swing arms. You never know what you're going to run into during that job...Especially on this S680! Learn how to properly replace your swing arms and time your cleaning shoe so your combine runs butter smooth!
#johndeere #s680
www.sloans.com
www.sloanex.com
www.sloans.com/careers
I don't think I've ever seen so much work carried out on one machine. This thing should be like new when she leaves your shop. Thanks for taking us on the journey. These informational videos should be used as apprentice training aids. Great channel, please keep the knowledge flowing.👍
I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching you work.
I'm just amazed the amount of work on this unit!! Almost looks like the owner hasn't done much maintenance! I would hate to see the bottom line on parts and labor. However, I have enjoyed the process to make the repairs. Thanks ZK
I’m thinking the owner did zero maintenance. If it started and operated it was just driven.
You know I don't have a clue of what you do with farm machinery, but it is a real pleasure watching you do it. Keep up your great work for us to watch.
Your videos should be mandatory watching for the John Deere design team. Your imagination and talent are second to none for navigating the obstacles in repairing these colossal machines.
I really enjoyed watching what all is involved in these combines. It’s amazing to watch you pull it all apart and put it back together and look, no parts left over. Truly a master tech. If it were possible, now that I’m retired, I’d love to spend a day with you and hand you tools just to be there
Come on down! 🙏
Viewed 4-2-22 from down state Illinois near St. Louis. Hi Zeth, I will have to say your workmanship is first class TOP NOTCH !! Any JD farmer sees your work would want only your hands on their machine and know the work was done correctly !!!
Thank you! That’s why I stay busy. Just wish I could get to everybody that needs me.
You show exactly what an agricultural engineer has to know and be able to not only understand what and how all farm machines are for but how they should work. Also if they do not work what to do to ensure that they do work in the future. The agricultural engineer has to know electrics, transmissions all types and sizes, hydraulics and not forgetting the engine etc. then all of the equipment combines, tractors, ploughs, spraying etc etc. was a filed engineer for IH years ago and in the field away from the shop on your own the farmer relayed on you and you alone to be Mr fix it, and his go-for man. You show this in your vids so well I think that young people out there would be waiting at your door for an apprenticeship. Your attitude is spot on to be an ambassador to the trade. From a 71 year old ex Agric engineer you have my vote. Fantastic videos keep them coming. Thank you.
Thank you sir!
He's the Bob Ross of tractor repair. so relaxing!
When we brought equiment to the workshop in my days a proper cleansing was mandatory. Man what a dirty mess you must work in. Beautiful video!
Your videos are so helpful. You explain everything to help us farmers to do things correctly with less pinched fingers and hurt tempers
Thanks for another absolutely great video. It was most interesting and was a wonderful teaching tool.
Wow. Wow. I never had seen a combine torn that far down in the business end of things. You had to accomplish a lot of Big steps to get at the swing arms and bolts. I found what you went thru ever so interesting. Taught me a bunch. You are a excellent teacher and show each step in sequence. So important.
Great content in this video. Never realized how much had to be removed to do the job.
Probably one of the better videos on this machine getting overhauled. Heartfelt thanks for taking us along on the repairs.
So, so interesting this was. Interesting to see the inside of the combine. Learned a lot.
Special thanks to you ZK. You taught me a lot on this one.
All for now.
The Iowa farm boy.
Steve.
Thanks Steve! In the heat of battle i can have that sieve frame on the ground in 3 hrs and then up and running the next day depending on what parts we need.
Just finished this job on a 670. Wish I could have watched this first would have made life easier. thanks for the post.
This man’s knowledge of the mechanics of these machines is impressive.
Wow! Talk about a complex piece of equipment. ZK, I like your method of writing everything down on a checklist. Logical and makes a lot of sense. Thanks for a very detailed video.
Great content as always zeth. The owners of these massive machines has no clue what you put yourself through repairing these machines. They'll know when they receive bill. Lol!! Enjoy watching your videos. Keep the knowledge coming. Definitely look you up at the next one. Stay safe!!
Not tired of watching at all. Love it. Steve. Wheat farmer in New Zealand
Gonna change all the swing arms on our 4 machines and watched this video a couple times, thanks for the video,makes it a lots easier seeing how the pros do it!Once you work one these things yourself it is actually pretty easy what seemed difficult inn the past.
Dog I don't even know jack about farming but I've still been watching these. Idk why
And this is why Zeth is called a Master Tech! Nice job! Keep these great vids turning! 👍
Wanted to say thank you very much for ur videos cause if it weren’t for people like u videotaping jobs I wouldn’t have learned and been able to do a lot of my own work that would have cost thousands of dollars that I don’t have. Thank you sir
Very nice work Zeth, you really earn your pay. I would have thought JD would have had a procedure of sorts for dealing with those sieve frame seals but you found a way to make it work.
ZK.
You put a full enema on that combin to get in where you needed to go to make the needed repairs. It was great to see you setting those shaker arm rubber bushing in their neutral position through the timing sequence.
Please take care. I am looking forward to seeing the next green iron challenge.
👍😎
Always a pleasure to watch your videos! You deliver great content.
How is your back? Who is kidding who here...muscle work galore! Add a thought on what this work does for the end product: A more "efficient" operating machine uses less energy (saving fuel) plus it produces more product, less lost product (money out the back!) and most importantly--a lower chance of the unit breaking down in the field...lost time and higher repair costs....less profit for the farmer! As to your helper, assistant, back up guy, #2: work him harder, make him smarter...what a team! Who do I need to speak to in order for you two wrenches getting more money? Love your work and your commitment to excellence!
My back Is going great. Thanks!
I’ll stick to fixing new Holland combines … seem to be quicker, less panels to remove and more straight forward to repair . But super interested on the Deere technicians ways and Deere ways of design . Great video!
just loving the CR gearboxes
@@Motorsports7 oh yes my favourite job on a CR 🤣
It is funny, I am watching some other channels talking about how farmers can't work on their own tractors. I am still split on the issue, I was an aviation mechanic and just owning it was not license to repair there, until they came along with "experimental" class and as long as you were not charging to fly people you can do your own work. Well that killed the small aircraft mechanic field and major airlines hire dozens of "workers" that work under a real mechanic's license... Yeah, I don't like the results. Sure these are on the ground, but they are still big, heavy, powerful machines and the tech is so advanced... I don't have the answers. Just ranting. LOL Good video.
Excellent video guys . Very professional and informative.
Looks like a Milwaukee M18 rivet gun may be in your future........ I think I'll be doing this project on our S770 this winter. I have not changed the swingarms yet and they still have green paint on them with 1200 separator hours now but probably 1300 by the end of the year. Thanks for the videos.
Very good educational video, a vibration can cause alot of headaches !!!!
Amazing idea on the modified pliers, will be trying that out thanks.
Love your videos, Zeth! Keep posting. I watch every second of every video you post. Thanks for your content!
Thanks for watching!
Dang ZK, it's gonna be a new machine!! $$$$$
Great work! Jim.
Every thing is perfect & clean, that's your middle name Sir! I youst love your attityd & thinking in every singel job, No shourt cuts, what so ever! Learn folks, learn the right way, even on a normal service! From Sweden Europe Peter Eriksson CEO Falun Maskin Service 😊😅😊!
Dear Sir ZK MasterTech, i like to give you credit fore your thinking, better safe then sorry, all the time, and always cleaning everything! You should be proud about yorself Sir, your knowledge is second to none! After 59 years in buisness i think i have right to say so, or?! With Respect from Peter Eriksson CEO Falun Maskin Service Sweden Europe 😊😅😊!
Always enjoy seeing both good and bad design on incredibly complex machines. Odd to use rivets on what seems to be a consumable seal.
Not tired. More please.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FARMER GOSE THRU GETTING FOOD TO THE TABLE. THEN TRUCK DRIVER GOT TO HAUL IT. CONGRATULATIONS ON U ALL TALENTED &THE KNOW HOW.
Wow, that was a ton of work! Very informative too!! Keep it up!
Great awesome video zeth . Wish sloans was up in Canada . I would certainly be interested in working there if there up here
Those frames are a real pain Right up the....... If you put it in the deep freeze it will be easier to put it back! Seriously though, good luck with reassembly. Nice video. Good job.
Yet another awesome video Zeth! Thank-You Sir!
I just had one bolt break and one bolt pull thru on my lower shaker tray today. F me. Deere tech will be here next week to pull both trays out and replace the lower one.
Wow. A lot of work. I’d say buy a new one but this is probably a lot more cost effective and it might be a year before you get a new one. I’m surprise you are able to get parts, but what a great job you’re doing.
I understand if it’s a field breakdown ur going to have trash and dirt everywhere but a off season repair sure be nice for ur service tech to clean up and out ur equipment
Love the content. The bill on this is going to be scary!!!
Awesome professionalism.
Enjoyed this video, thank you. Regards George
You can pull the chopper frame out of the combine. That's the way I've done the last couple s680 combines.
hey mate just subscribe to your channel I really like your attention to detail when you do your repairs mate from Australia 🇦🇺
Awesome videos. Really well put together and informative. Love watching you guys work. Just one question . Do you leave some of the dirt and grit in the machine on purpose? Would be very interesting to know why you don't blow everything clean. I'm sure there's a good explanation for it.
Anyway, keep up the great work. My favorite channel to watch.
well done on a tough job , i like the special tools and wish i had some of them as i always work alone and its rough work .
The ViceGripGarage of John Deere tractors.
I’ll take that as a compliment
Another great video, thank you!
I don't even want to see the final bill.it is huge.i am enjoying the repairs on the combine.
Thank you! I get tired of everyone asking. I can’t tell.
I am scared to now the final bill.i might have a heart attack.lol
Awesome vid! Great job!
I’m curious..is what you’re doing just part of routine maintenance? Holy cow it’s a lot of work! How long, in real time, did it take you to pull out that chaffer frame? Seems like the engineers have no understanding what mechanics go through…you’d think JD would send a team occasionally to watch, take notes, ask questions..to see it the real world. Great video Zeth, keep up the good work!
Yup this is all just normal repairs we do. It looks like a lot of work to some people but to me it’s just normal day to day.
Thats the easy way to get the chaffer frame out. A lot of shops do it by hand.
When ever I do swing arms I leave the chopper on and pull everything out just fine
I enjoy You doing all this work. But this job is getting expensive
Its 20 years since I pulled the sieves and grain pans out of MF combines, doesn't seem to have got any easier on a JD!!!!!! Least you're working in a clean shop with concrete floor instead of the corner of a field with the sun beating down and the farmer wanting to get going!!!
I did comparable work on a 6620 and 8820 back in the old days and it was a lot easier than this. Even though I have been retired for years it is still fascinating to watch and makes me want to get back in action. Great videos, I watch every one.
Getting ready to do this tomorrow on my S790 mid season at 900 sep hours. Kinda disappointed in that...as far as all of the maintenance comments, there's not much maintenance that can be done on these cleaning shoes, what you just watched in this video is the maintenance..
Amigo Matt, como siempre muy buen video.... Te sigo y cordiales desde el Valle del Yaqui, Sonora, Mexico.
Just one question, why not use a vacuum cleaner or airline to clean all the old corn and debris off the sieves etc?
Sometimes i do.
If your back goes out, I think you should consider cardiac catheterization and angiography. Just had my 31st anniversary with my back, stay strong and work safely.
Doesn’t that have to do with your heart?
@@ZKMasterTech you got it! You could be a doctor.
Can I get you torque sequence and timing for a 9870 please.
Tools: Employee vs Employer question. You raised an interesting point that I'm not sure many entering the industry thinks about up front. In your position where you do shop and service calls. Who is responsible for tools? It is my understanding that techs are responsible for their own tools (with the exception of specialty tools) for their role. Example: A strictly field service tech has the truck loaded with their tools. A dealer tech is responsible for their tools and storage. What is expected of a tech that does both? Can you speak towards how Sloan handles that, vs say the industry average?
Sloan’s buys the truck, i buy everything else
Great video but I have to disagree with not replacing the bearings on the cross shaft. Those bearings have X amount of hours on them while everything thing else has 0 hours. Alot of farmers have found out the hard way. A few more dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to the damage that can undo everything you just did. Like I said earlier, great video.
you should design the Zek sieve corncob removal tool 5,000.
Shove the sieve frame in....and here I thought it was being installed by highly experienced, formally educated professionals. Just shove it in there buddy!!
And then stab that chaffer frame in there!!!
Mail all the removed raised chaffers back to the corporate engineering dept. Maybe after the first 100 they'll get the hint and issue Mfg recall, so the customer doesn't have to pay the labor for bad engineering.
At 22.40 it's look like bad counstuction, on the video anyway, but maybee the angel fouls me?from Peter Eriksson Sweden Europe 😅😊😅!
I saw a guy weld a socket cut in half into a hydraulic hose for those tensioners
Yeah I’ve tried it. It works for running them down but has too much flex to break the nuts loose.
23:00 to 31:37 That segment needs to be sent to JD. Actually they need the unedited version.
With the amount of work being done to this machine, I would love to know what the final bill would be.
Great job seith
Great vid !
the torq for the arms is the same for 9770 sts combine?
they are going to have anew combine when you're finished.
You should get sloans to carry Andy clean soap
Only thing this machine is going to need after all this work is new pistons and a leather drivers seat!
What brand is that rivet gun/ tool
Hey zk quick question. For those swing arms to replace them do you have to pull the seive frame out to get a couple of the bolts ?
For the front sieve arms yes.
Dear MasterTech, fore howe many years & what school has passed thru, to be a MasterTech mechanic on John Dere machines? Wonder Peter Eriksson CEO Falun Maskin Service Sweden Europe 😊😅😊??
Why replace the whole arms and not just the bushings? We run 2 older claas machines and boy have I had to press in and out alot of those. Its interessting that you pointed out to centre the bushing movement before thightening. It makes so much sense but I have never thought about it that way, and frankly Im annoyed🤣. Oh and we had those chaffer frames crack and tear out and man it gets all chewed up real quick
You can only get the arms.
@@ZKMasterTech Typical JD. Shouldve guessed as much
Hello friend. congratulations for your videos. everyone is great. in your video you have the tools to remove the sieve boxes. Can't you send me pictures so I can try to make an identical one?
Wrapping up this job on my s670. The video is really helpful, so thanks. After install of the sieve and chaffer frames, its apparent that the rear end of both frames favors the left side of the machine. The gap between the sieve frame and the sidewall is probably 1/2" and on the right hand side is about 1/4". There is no steel to steel contact and the seal wear marks show that it was wearing this way before. Do you have any recommendations for straightening out? Or do we just let it be? Thanks man.
You can loosen the bearing flanges on the shoe drive shaft and move the left side back and the right side forward to straighten the frame.
@@ZKMasterTech great. Thank you!
Zeth, when you remove the upper pre-Chaffer, usually we install plastic finger grates on the back of the pre-cleaner. Small grain machines are built this way from the factory. Question: how much vibration or movement due you get on the tension idler of the shoe drive belt after messing with the shoe? They always vibrate some while running, just wondering. Thanks
Yeah they always vibrate a little.
Where does John Deere make combines? I’d love to see them invite you to a factory tour. And you could take us along of course
Moline IL
@@ZKMasterTech well let’s go for another road trip shall we
You driving?
@@ZKMasterTech I’m an excellent driver
how many shop hours did it take to change the swing arms?
Very nice!!
Looks like real fun there
I'll let you have it
Lol
Do you recommend removing the chaffer pre cleaner on the S780 combines too? Will it change how the chaffer sidehill kit mounts in there?
You can and i don’t think so
when a deer come for repair i have to find my only one 15 mm wrench between tons of 13 mm and 17 mm :D:D:D.. Just use them 17 mm if 13 mm can not hold :D:D and make my life easy :D cheers from europe. You doing great job
I'm surprised the combine is so dirty.
Can both frames be pulled together as a set? Probably not was curious if it would make it easier?
No they cannot
Can we get a total of hours and parts cost but chance on these repairs? I am very curious at the hours alone on this project.
All i can tell you is that it was a lot but cheaper than trading it off.
is this still the same machine that had metal shavings through the hydraulic system ???
Yes
I'm really impressed with your work. But I'm not impressed with John Deere's engineering in many cases. After watching many of your videos, I'm seeing equipment that requires maintenance too frequently and equipment that is not designed to be easily maintained.
🏋️👈GENIUS
i love jhon DEERE 😃💪
Muito top😊
Scares me to think of what this "service" has cost the customer. At the end of the day, service is cheap compared to having a vehicle have a major break down in the middle of harvest season.
Question. My s670 broke the rubber bushing out of shaker arm where it is driven by the Pittman arm. I pulled that arm and pressed in a new rubber bushing bc there’s no availability on shaker arms. Since then, I have broken the bolt that the Pittman arm connects to twice. The first Time I blamed reassembly error. Second time was more thorough. It breaks after about an hour. Do you have to detorque and re torque everything in sequence if you pull off one arm? Any thoughts on what could be causing it to break? In the process of pulling the chaffer and sieve now.
You need to get the shoe into mid stroke. The cam will have a 1/2" square slot. Make sure it's 12 o clock or 6 o clock. Then torque the M12 bolts to 96 and the bigger ones to 236. Bolts are one time use. I haven't had any troubles getting the arms.