@@Profar26 Don’t be salty cause only 5% of the community agrees with you. This video should be re-titled “why I like streets remake better than streets of rage 4.” Half of your comments are disagreeing with you, you just like streets of rage remake better.
Streets of Rage Remake is perhaps the single greatest fan made game ever, and I would agree with your assertion that it just may be the best Streets of Rage game period. And that’s not throwing shade at Streets of Rage 4, rather it’s just giving credit where it’s due. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Well, I always thought the old game s were better than 4. In the 4th game, the levels were too short, uninspired level design, music was far from terrible but didn't exc3ed the original soundtrack, bosses were cheap, few enemy variants, other than that, 4 is still a great game
We need much more fan-games like this. No new-styled pixel looks from current indie titles. Just polish the old games a bit and give them more variety like SoR Remake and Sonic Mania. That´s all we want!
I'm OK with modernize the games. But please respect the original artwork and design. Stop putting western design instead 😭 And dreadlocked girl fighting with her guitar Hobbo jeans chubby axel is not what I want.
It's not even the fact that running is pretty much gone in SOR4. It's that the game felt so balanced around being able to run so playing as anyone else in 4 just felt kinda awkward imo.
@@evan2902I don't feel so at all, the game is balanced really damn good with or without running. Like from day one i had zero issues finishing the game with characters like Axel or blaze.
I played the hell out of SORR so when SOR4 came out I was honestly pretty disappointed. While I still like SOR4 I think SORR is vastly superior so many features and customization, and the music is godly!!
Yeah Streets of Rage Remake is superior than Streets of Rage 4, and I love Streets of Rage 4. Also, Streets of Rage Remake got an update ver. 5.2. It went from great to amazing. Totally blew away the Mr. X Nightmare DLC.
Yes, here you go: sorr.forumotion.net/t838-new-streets-of-rage-remake-v5-2-download-and-info I've streamed that ver. 5.2. on my channel as well. You might wanna check it out. Don't forget to subscribe, brother.
Yea, SoR4 feels like SoR2 with new art style and some tacked-on extras. Meanwhile SORR is a huge expansion of all games and even takes some chances with new stuff that only adds to the total experience. Hell, in SOR4 you can't roll as anyone and only run with Cherry.
Great video. It's really sad that Sega didn't do what they did with Sonic Mania and bring these guys on to do an official remake, that would have been awesome. Also lol they made Ash even more camp gay, I didn't even think that would be possible.
Yeah back then, Sega was literally Nintendo 2.0. If they release the remake now, they probably would remove Ash again. Because it's 2021, we don't want to offend certain "protected individuals" am I right?
Which is so funny seeing as how all the gay folks I've encountered on fan pages on facebook find him hilarious or "fabulous". They fucking love him, ironically. XD
If it weren't for the efforts and fame of the SORRemake project we wouldn't have gotten a official next installment. The devs behind SOR4 even took some ideas and liberties from the remake. SORRemake is the greatest fan made love letter to a video game franchise I've ever seen, I just can't believe SEGA shot it down. Great video. 👍
Both of them are great . SORR is amazing with the love put in to the games , the sprites, the characters, the tributes to the music, the 90's feel. Honestly, it's truly amazing on it's own right. It has amazing lore, much of a better story and it's just fun . Even I love how you can make decisions based on what you do. You also have multiple endings. Gameplay is solid. Fun. SOR4 by gameplay is better, even if they don't have the run and roll system for every character but Streets of Rage 3 characters with the run / roll system, with combos, star system flourish in that game making SOR4 one of the deepest Best em ups of all time because of what you can do with so many characters. The DLC of unlocking more moves along with training mode, survival mode , makes SOR4 an actual classic . I honestly prefer SO4 barely over R because I love having fun with their gameplay. Musically wise, it's actually good too and I feel like people don't respect the game enough because it's not nostalgic enough with Yuzo's name written all over it
Streets of rage 4 gameplay isn’t better, it’s way too easy to stun lock enemies into oblivion, instead of focusing on timing like in the Ogs it’s just about getting high combos
I agree. I don't like how Axel looks in SR4. He cannot run - wtf. Music is way better in original game (especially in sr1). And graphic design, colors, is kind of weird in sr4, what that a cartoonish?
I also like SOR4, but like you I don't feel that it is a true sequel to SOR3, SOR4 seems more like SOR2.5 to me, a game that completely forgets elements that SOR3 introduced, such as the possibility that EVERYONE can run and roll or alternative paths with their respective endings, something that SOR Remake expanded, including a store to buy content, thanks to things like this the game becomes more replayable, for that reason I only got to play SOR4 a couple of times, while SOR Remake I don't even remember how many times I replayed it
They should have added all this in streets of rage 4. Especially bring back the streets of rage 3 meter. The “ok” meter at the top for your special moves how u dont waste health for your special move. At least for the streets of rage 2 and 3 characters. Also the thing I love the most about sor remake is it feels like you’re playing the original streets of rage games. I love the pixelated stages and characters more than the sor 4 design. They should have at least have u the option to make it the stages and enemies pixelated just like the original in sor 4. Also playing as Mr x would have been fun for sor4 the should have made the dlc of nightmare x as you playing as more of the bosses with extra moves and fighting all the good guys as bosses that would have been really sick. The main thing I like about sor3 is how they added most of the original stages and using all characters playable. I’ve always enjoyed using the sor 1 chars the most and playing with them in the sor 2 and 3 stages. But the best thing about this game in my opinion is that u can use extra special moves for the sor 1 characters depending on how many stars you have. All of sor 1 axles extra moves are soo sick! I wish they gave mr x way more moves tho. And his special would be him shooting his gun but walking around with him and shooting his guy is soo fun!
SORR is my personal favorite of the series, I've played it easily 2x more than the rest of the franchise combined. That said, the SOR4 team deserves respect. They've updated the game to be truly worthy of its title, they clearly love the franchise and wanted to do it justice. I wasn't a huge fan upon release, mainly because it felt bogged down and slow compared to SORR, but they've since won me over. I'm still more likely to fire up SORR for my next SOR fix, though. :)
You provided quality arguments here. It would be fair if those who criticize your opinion to give you evidence of why SoR4 is better. Personally, it is evident to the blind that SoR remake is the dream game in terms of everything you mentioned. Maybe the new generation gets hooked by the (flash games) - like graphics to they do know anything about what made the original series stand out. A superficial comparison wont serve SoR remake justice. At least we have to appreciate the efforts of Bomber games and how they made the title a platform of infinite re playability. Another thing is that pixel art represents serious efforts from a technical perspective. We play games because of the efforts put behind them and SoR remake is the pinnacle of that. Thanks for the video, your arguments are solid and your delivery is fun and entertaining regardless if one agrees with your perspective or not.
To me it's the levels. The levels in SoR4 are just terrible. And that monster immunity sequence is just stupid by design. TMNT is a MUCH better beat 'em up. I can't believe those 2 games are made by the same company .
SOR Remake and soon to be released, SORX, is definitely outstanding and it has so much content while being very true to SOR 2 and 3 if you really want total nostalgia. But I can never get enough of 4, the refined combat system is phenomenal, definitely another masterpiece!
@@kwkfortythree39 yeah , I actually downloaded the game on my phone already aftet researching it haha , pretty much plays better than the remake . Ive always wanted to play SOR 1,2, and 3 with SOR4 mechanics haha
SOR4 being an official game is tied to certain contractual obligations tied to the IP, unlike small indie game studios that can go wild with the features they want to include.
I really didnt like SOR4 it felt dated. After decades of playing beat-em-ups the devs did nothing to pull any advancements in gameplay systems to the new game. I found myself just rather wanting to play the older games instead.
I agree. Sor4 is a good game but it isn't better then 2, the remake or even 3. What annoys me the most is they avoided 3 because it's hated by fans, but they took out all the good things about it, like weapon attacks, and running/rolling, the speed ,but THEY KEPT the bad shit like ENVIROMENT HAZARDS! like wrecking balls etc. I hate that shit, and why out of all the characters the only one they tried to make look old was Axel. Not to mention in sor1 Axel had more speed then Adam, in 4 Axel is the slowest character besides Max and Floyd. Idk I can go on. The music sucks too in 4 fight me.
SOR4 "Combo system", oh, you mean like you show us in your video where the player hit some enemies, then don't hit anything for like five freaking seconds as they slowly go in another part of the screen to hit some other enemy and by some kind of magic that bullshit game still register the whole thing as ONE combo instead of two separate ones? *snorts* Talk about taking the piss...
That's just the combo count, you are aware that there are now actual combos in the game right? Like there is more than the punch loop from older games. Just look up Shiva or Estelle combos and show me someone doing these things in the other games, remake included.
You made your points well despite what a bunch of jilted people here seem to say. SOR4 has 4-player couch co-op and a bunch of great new original content, but I don't love the presentation of vector-style graphics with the chunky old sprites! BLECH! The lack of running is kinda weak too, but overall it helps to support the new game if you wanna see the franchise--and genre--survive. ..but the Remake is the best; like you said it might be the best beat-em-up to date!
After playing streets of rage 4 alot, I can't go back to the old games. They are too slow and the combo system in 4 is perfect and feels off when I can't combo like that in other beat'em ups.
My only problem with sorremake is that their isn't an sor3 senario like sor & sor2. Yeah i know that sor3 levels are mixed in the game but i wanted to play them in order, my favorite parts are the bulldozer part followed by fighting against axel android on top of the construction site. In this remake you don't fight him. Do like the cody appearences though😅.
I played Remake before 4. I too really like both games. Especially SoR4's four player coop. Which is awesome to play on the rare occasions I have all my mates over at the same time. But Remake is still the better game. Due to its replayability. Even my friend who was a big Nintendo kid and didn't play SoR growing up. Still said he enjoys playing Remake more. He also acknowledged that back he wouldn't have a said this. But SEGA SoR Trilogy is way better than SNES Final Fight trilogy.
@@jorge8108 It looks good though. But I still think Remake is the ultimate SOR game. The overall production quality of Remake trumps over 2X. Remake's overall presentation is like what you expect from an official studio.
But it doesn't. 4 looks like a finished "new" game. A game from the ground up. After 4 comes 2 because it did everything within it's limits. remake is just a modified version of that. I tough some stages in the remake looked kinda ugly even.
only those who didn't play the originals back at that time thinks street of rage 4 is a good game which in fact it is a CRAP ! full of bad decision for example removing the ability to double tap forward and run like street of rage 3. and etc... I think street of rage remake the fan made unofficial one, is the better game I still play this one and enjoy instead of the crapy street of rage 4
sor4 is fine, but it's way too westernized and cartoony for me to appreciate it. I don't like the modern aestetic, and some of the character designs. I struggle to return to it over the others.
Look, SOR Remake has my absolute respect. But you're wrong on a few things here 1: While the SOR4 characters can't usually run, you can actually unlock and play as every SOR3 character in SOR4, complete with running. Also Barbon is easy, just dodge vertically. 2: Branching Path storyline. A great feature, a cool idea - but not really that big of a deal. Especially when you figure in that most of the areas in the remake, are areas from SOR1-3. All the stages in SOR4 are original. 3: SOR4 had 17 characters. Now, it has 21 - via the DLC. Which currently costs 3 bucks. And also features a new game mode, and moveset customization. So while SOR Remake MIGHT have been better (by a single character) before, it now falls short. Also, not modifying the characters is something I like - it has the EXACT same gameplay as the original. I want to play SOR1 Blaze, not "SOR1 Blaze but her attacks have been nerfed for being OP". SOR1 Blaze remains strong as hell in SOR4, and that's fine - unless you're a damn good player, you're probably not unlocking her before reaching the final boss, anyways. 4: Again, outdated. The movesets of the new characters are fully customizable, something that isn't present in SOR Remake. But hey, the DLC came out after this video, so your point was correct at the time of you posting this. 5: Sormaker is cool .That's your best point, I like that feature a LOT. So that's me giving you props, that's absolutely cool.
The alternate movesets are so busted that they fuck the game up. SoRR is actually challenging and doesnt have infinites. SoR4 also has a lot of ugly character designs in it. Fat women, masculine muscle women, gorilla looking characters. Its bad
100% agreed, that is precisely why i've never and will never buy SOR4 aka SOR2.5... I mean you can't just skip all the good things that the previous games had. That's exactly what Dotemu did : retain all the good things of SOR1 & 2 except SOR3.... It's almost as if this game never existed to Dotemu... Ok SOR3 isn't the best SOR but it's still a good game ( minus to the soundtrack and the difficulty)
When I was following SOR4 before release, I honestly thought they'd try to outdo Remake in every way. But all they really ended up doing was taking the Train Roof level, and maybe a few cosmetic features. With 12 stages, there really should have been a path split, especially as the villains are twins (there could have been a "Go after Mr Y/Ms Y" choice). What I really like about Remake is the use of >> Specials, but not every character has it. My main problem with SOR4 is the enemy cheapness and inconsistent hitboxes, which make it unplayable for me. Modding is also easier in Remake, whereas you need additional programs to do it in 4. In fact, I made my own soundtrack series because of Remake. Did you play Remake 5.2 btw?
SORR is one my favourite beat em up games. And speaking of customization, there are some modders who created custom bgm, sound effects, and even replacing a characters / enemies with new sprite to make it like a new ones (Like Vegeta from Dragon Ball, Chun Li from Street Fighter, and even Sonic the Hedgehog) Also, speaking of SORMAKER, well, those classic games at 0:43, did you know if there are some SOR Remake MOD inspired by them? I'm playing The King of Dragons, Knights of the Round, Alien VS Predator, Cadillac and Dinosaurs, The Punisher, Warriors of Fate, and Captain Commando, all of those on SORR All of those MOD was created by person named "Cm_Blast". I'm big fan of him, to be honest.
SoRR is easily the best fangame ever made, to me 4 doesnt even hold a candle to Remake. honestly i never understood why SEGA and Bomberlink never just worked together to make this official. SORMaker imo is the best feature and arguably what SEGA feared, hence why it was banhammered within days of the complete release (SORRV5) sorry but not sorry SEGA, but what is uploaded to the internet cannot be completely removed from it. SoRR exists to this day and is still getting Revisions, not to mention SORMaker submissions, allowing you to rage in so many more stages. in 2024 i will even be starting work on my own submission, a SOR 3,5 of sorts, a 14 part storyline that gives every playable character a story chapter as well as a prologue and epilogue, including Mr X.
Said all of this and more day one of SOR4! Shoot, even SOR1 At least had multiple endings. How 26 years later do you take such a step back in replay value?!
I enjoyed this video, I also have this game, from ver 4 to ver the current one. One other thing I think you missed that makes the game better the 4 is the music. Remakes and covers of the original music was so awesome, which I also downloaded, both music version too. Cool video tho
Wrong, SOR3 had some great songs. Not all of them but there were some good ones there like the first level stage, and the one where you go to the White House. The beach song was good too.
I absolutely hate how infuriating some of the enemies in 4 are. The “flashing invisibility” time when they get up or at certain stages in the fight, can instill pure rage in me. Also your character seems soo slow, you can’t get out of the way much of the time, why. I mean, there’s bad crap coming your way, and there’s not a dash or run button. Fat guy rolling or belly flopping toward you? well your getting hit because your character needs to cool guy strut out of the way. Oh your supposed to do a defense special move? well that takes health that you slowly regain if you deal 50 times the damage then the move was worth to begin with, oh but you’ll get hit, because your character is god awful slow to react, or the bad guy turns invisible and slaps you. They made the special moves useless. The only one you can use if the dash move. Which is kinda weird they call it a dash move, because it really only goes forward and you get hit a lot of times when doing it. There needs to be a dash button and the ability to dash in different directions, and it doesn’t need to be an attach move. It just seems like a cheap way to make the game hard, and it makes your character seem lethargic.
Streets of Rage 4 is mid at best. To this day I still hate how lightweight all the hits sound. No running or rolling so that's a automatic downgrade from 3 and I'll never get over the devs not at least having Yuzo compose the whole ost instead of a few songs. Playing with old character sprites mixed into the newer artstyle backgrounds is one of the cheapest things done to a beloved franchise and besides the first stage and the museum stage I can’t remember a single bgm from that game today. I rate Remake or The Takeover as the true SOR4.
Some parts of this video aged like milk lol I agree with a lot of your points, but damn, you went hard on Dotemu and SOR4, jeez! haha SOR4 and SORR are both awesome games that both have their strengths
Yes is better, SOR4 is a good game but dont better than SOR Remake or Streets of rage 1. Retro soundtrack on SOR4 is a joke, game gear music and SOR2 soundtrack make me turn off the mintendo switch
@@НемањаМићић-к9р yeah, loyalty to the originals because they didn’t change up the sprites. One of this guy’s points in this video is literally that SORR changes how the sprites look; that’s not how they looked back in the day and you know damn well
@MarcusGronkowski They redid the first Streets of Rage's sprites to look and feel similar to SOR3, if they didn't it wouldn't look good due to the size of the sprites being completely different from one another.
SOR Remake is the best of all series. You forgot to mention the up and down roll. Plus man the music was real on real instruments not midi. I loved it and I was thinking Sega would buy it from Bomber Games instead of shutting it down.
Anybody who thinks DotEmu revived SOR is HIGHLY uninformed. Streets of Rage has ALWAYS been heavily requested the be revived by Sega. BomberGames was doing fine with the series, and many fans were enjoying their work. Sega didn't even mind them doing what they were doing UNTIL they released V4, which DESTROYED every SOR game out there, and they were given a desist order by Sega themselves. That's why the game couldn't be downloaded for a while. Nobody would download and PAY for old SOR games if this one was free and BETTER in EVERY way to the other games. Soon after fans were releasing HUNDREDS of videos of their SORR gameplay, Streets of Rage was back in the trending zone. The Streets of Rage characters were then put in the mobiel game Sega All Stars. Because of this, Sega opted to put Axel in Project X Zone 2 as an assist character. Now Sega officially acknowledged that Streets of Rage existed. The fan outcry for a new SOR title grew even more, and Sega decided to let DotEmu do the game, BUT Sega did NOT give them the same funding as let's say a certain Blue Hedgehog? DotEmu was pretty much on their own. They did a great job, but they already had YEARS worth of support from fans who were already going to buy the game based SOLELY on the title. They even specifically had to differentiate it FROM Streets of Rage Remake so that fans wouldn't call it a knock off. (Adam's new Custom Neutral Special in SOR4 is literally his neutral special from Remake 🤦♂️ ). Sorry, I LOVE SOR4, but DotEmu did NOT revive the Streets of Rage franchise. Remake did.
Actually DotEmu did bring SOR back to the mainstream . Yes, SOR never really was dead and the remakes are excellent, but SOR4 with DOTEMU'S platform brought it back due to more casual fans and new fans alike. Don't be too nostalgic.
@@Greenworldjamal You just admitted though that SOR was never really dead...so how can DotEmu revive something that isn't dead? See what I'm saying? I'm not knocking SOR4 because I think it's the best in the series. Unpopular opinion: I think SOR4 has the best gameplay AND soundtrack. The story of SOR3 was better, and the boss themes of the old games were better, but that's it. SOR4 is a lot more FUN than the others. That said, I still won't say that DotEmu is solely responsible for the revival of the franchise. People were HEAVILY into SORR, which provided still to this day, the most fan service and updates possible, and Bombergames made it free for everyone. For me, Bombergames is what brought this back most.
I'm in agreement with u. Having not played remake yet I have watched alot of videos and I'm extremely jealous of ppl who have played it. In all fairness to part 4 tho, this video must've come out before the DLC Mr. X's Noghtmare was released. IMO streets of Rage 4 is still a truly great game, with the DLC u get to play as 4s Shiva, Max, and Estel U can also get 3s Roo. It also included different character colors, special moves and an epic survival mode. Even still, with all those additions Remake still looks like the better game.
I honestly felt that for SOR2 the only thing missing was being a bit longer and the ability for all the players to run... which is why I always played with Skate... so the speed from SOR3 ported to SOR2 would've been the ultimate experience.. still SOR2 is the best one of all.
well for u to say that street of rage remake is better than 4 i can understand that because street of rage 4 has many mistakes and less options than the remake .. but saying that street of rage 2 is better than 3 that is totally stupid .. and based on nostalgia only .. the fact is .. sor 3 is way better than 1 and 2 for 5 reasons 1- they can run .. ok yea they can run .. one of ur reasons .. but sor 2 they r still crawling 2- sor 3 has better animation than sor 2 .. thats out of discussion 3- controls are more better and responsive in sor 3 .. while sor 2 is very slow and clunky 4- sor 3 is more longer stages about 2 hours long and branched story as u wanted .. sor 2 can be beaten in 30 minutes yea 5- sor 3 more better and modern sound tracks than sor 2 if u get use to it and if u want 1 more reason to be 6 its more ( characters and enemies and bosses ) i do love sor 2 and 3 but lets be honest and throw the nostalgia in the corner for awhile .. u cannot say that sor 1- 2 is better than 3 that is not logical at all its dumbest thing ever .. maybe that time we was children .. we r not wise enough to realize how better sor 3 was but we r old now and we can notice the true without fooling our self's .. sor 3 is still holding up until today if u play it in 2022 thats how good it was but sor 2 is getting old and aged its barely matching with final fight
First of all, write in English better. It's hard for me to understand what you are trying to say. Second, I never said Streets of Rage 2 is better than Streets of Rage 3. In fact, if you watched my latest video on 5 Streets of Rage Games Ranked, I put 3 above 2 and 1. Third, after reading your comment comprehensively. I do agree with you.
Sor 2 barely matching with Final Fight? There's alot of things that they did better than in Final Fight, especially the way how enemies attack and the response time to get out of their attacks.
Sorry to wake you up on an old post and i understand what you are saying here. Still, saying which SoR is the best will always be an opinion. SoR3 has more features than the previous two and plays faster, but it's very easy to abuse the blitz/dash move with two or three stars, endlessly going from left to right and back while performing this move constantly. Blaze is my fave in 3 and even with the other characters i usually end up doing this with two or three stars. It starts to look silly after a while. Running is a bonus, but the dodge rolls are useless. If i wanna dodge, i just take a step back and turn around when an enemy is about to hit before i can, or just walk up or down in time. This tactic works in every SoR game, without running and dodge rolls. Then there's how the game feels. Three is faster and has more animations, but the combat feels floaty compared to previous games and the sound fx sometimes get cut out of the mix, making it feel like hitting air instead of an enemy. Also, the visuals (colors) of three are not an upgrade when compared to the second one or even the first in my opinion, as is the music. Some tracks are really great, while others i just can't listen too, like the one playing in the disco stage. The biggest upgrades three made are the ability to do new and special moves with weapons and the energy meter for specials. The rest of the game isn't "better" than the others. For example, SoR1 has the best soundtrack in my opinion and portrays the city in a much more convincing way, going through the seemingly connected stages during the night and ending up at Mr. X during sunrise. Going from a neon lit street to a back alley, leading to the beach and then a port, before going on a boat that takes you to a factory underneath Mr. X's place, and then work your way up the building while the sun rises through the windows during the final section. Paired with the great soundtrack and how great Blaze plays here, it might even be my favorite in the series. The biggest downsides are the 30fps and no ability to drop or throw away any weapon. Have to say though, i've played SoR2 the most of them all.
I actually prefer SOR4. Of course they wouldn’t change up the character designs for SOR1; literally the whole point is to celebrate SOR history. They can’t just change the past by reworking their pixel art. Same reason why Shiva still can’t pick up items just like he couldn’t in SOR3
I love both SOR4 and SOR Remake, but I wish SORemake could have the Combat system and extra customization of SOR 2X. In my mind, I just combine those 2 games and call them the best SOR game ever.
I heard of this game and don't understand why I've never got it. It looks like absolute perfection. I must get it. I wish SEGA would have done this on the Saturn. I wish they would make a fan-game like this for SEGA's Outrun.
I Actually prefer not having everybody have sprint, makes each character feel more unique and changes your playstyle, everybody having sprint made them have less replayability to me thx to all the movement being similar. I also never liked the guns, milled the point of characters. Also SoR4 has 21 characters now. Branching Story is amazing tho. I much prefer just keeping the old characters the way they were (since thats the point) changing them to fit the game makes them not the old characters. Also fancy screen wipes are so much more boring than unique star attacks. yeah the only customization in 4 is just 3 alt colors and 5 new moves to swap between. u never actually compared SoR4 features to Remake and simply kept saying they did more. as for the revival well yeah SoR4 is gonna get all the credit because it did do that, SoR4 is much more accessible than Remake and has a more modern artsyle along with retro inspired new music. Most of the things u say Remake does “better” arent really better just different.
The more I play SoR4 the less I like it. On higher difficulties the enemies become very cheap and the game feels less rewarding. My best game? SoR2 with SoR3 character move sets.
SOR4 is fun, but Remake has branching paths, longer and more developed story, and just so many bonuses. I'm glad we have both, but it's a travesty that Remake was shut down.
Sadest thing about Sor 4 is the devs painted themselves at Max's fight. Even one of them add their girlfriend too. La french touch mon boul ! they don't deserve respect like bomber game
I told that in my 2020 review of that game. This IP is special to me as it ignited my core passion for video-game when I was 5. With 4 years behind us, I can agree with you on everything, when a fan game delivers more options than your green lit game, you can only check on the mirror. SoR remake is not the best beat em all game of all time IMHO, the title is for Tmnt shredder's revenge or Fight n Rage or DnD Shadow over Mystara. Hard to say that my personal best of this genre is not one of the SoR series but it's true. SoR 4 was nerfed because of fanboyism.
There's also another great remake called Streets of Rage 2X, I made a review of it my channel, and a spiritual successor called The Takedown. It even has voice actors from Final fantasy 7 and DBZ Abridged. Great Video. Keep it up, brother.
SOR Remake is a labor of love. Bomber games did an entire fan game on an IP that was forgotten for ages. And did mostly from their pockets and the game was free SOR4 on the other hand, had investments and the product was sold. If you compare both, they are different approaches to SOR but the remake is a fan service game, probably it started to show SEGA that their old IP's still have a huge loyal fanbase, thats why we have news of a New Golden Axe, Shinobi and conversations about SOR 5
Hello Profar, gw akan sampaikan dengan bahasa indo karena bahasa inggris gw ngga bagus... Overall gw setuju dengan opini km tentang bagaimana pandangan tentang SOR remake, karena gw sejak kecil tumbuh bareng side scrolling beat em up apalagi seri double dragon hingga street of rage. SORR menurut gw feelnya lebih dapet dengan beberapa pertimbangan seperti fitur gameplay, kustomisasi, replayability stage yang berbeda-beda, pilihan mobs yang variatif dari semua seri SOR (kita bisa mukulin 3 variant garcia yang berbeda-beda) bahkan menu item shop dan editor buat nambah fun pengalaman saat bermain. Beberapa fitur seperti branching path dengan pilihan 4 starting point stage dan CPU teammate merupakan sebuah terobosan beat em up yang baru, karena sepengetahuan gw blm ada beat em up dengan mengimplementasikan kedua fitur tersebut. Pilihan Stage yang dibawakan SORR juga lebih terasa dinamis, seperti stage naik motor dan jetski (mirip surfingnya di game TMNT dan Capt Commando), trus ada sedikit sentuhan platformer dan obstacle seperti di stage diatas kereta berjalan, di terowongan kereta bawah tanah dan beragam stage area yang lekat dengan environment era 90'an. Entah kenapa representasi stage di SORR baik itu dibuat ulang maupun yang sudah disempurnakan oleh Bomber Games selaku developer benar-benar sangat terasa aspek nostalgianya. Selebihnya gw mengakui redesign asset dari karakter, animasi & moveset, mekanisme game, stage area hingga soundtrack memang bukan kaleng-kaleng untuk sekelas game modding. OST ikonik fighting in the street, go straight, dreamer hingga violent breathing digarap secara epik oleh fans tanpa mengurangi esensi yang disematkan oleh yuzo koshiro (creatornya). SORR sejatinya bisa bersaing dengan game-game "legit" beat-em up yang dinaungi oleh developer besar. Sudah tentu SOR4 secara aspek grafis yang ditawarkan seperti visual effect, animasi dan actionnya jauh lebih fenomenal dan memanjakan mata daripada SORR, namun begitu Bomber Games mampu memberikan sebuah jawaban bahwa game klasik akan memiliki kelasnya sendiri di dunia modern (while classic look classy). Sekedar tambahan, ada satu lagi game mod beat-em up yang lagi gw pantengin karena potensinya bisa mendekati SORR walaupun pengerjaannya sendiri terbilang cukup lama. Namanya Ultimate Double Dragon, di desain ulang oleh small developer berbasis dari game Super Double Dragon (SNES). Fitur mekanik gameplay yang ditawarin cukup menarik, mengingat developernya adalah veteran game fighting, dia juga menambahkan referensi animasi moveset dari berbagai game fighting ternama seperti mortal kombat, killer instinct, samurai shodown, dan sebagainya. Mereka juga mendesain secara detil untuk playable karakter, mobs dan boss (tambahan karakter mob yang ditampilkan sempat dibuat langsung oleh creatornya Kishimoto-san dengan cara dibeli oleh pihak developer UDD). Selain itu beberapa stage areanya juga di desain ulang dan memiliki branching path walau pilihannya nggak sebanyak SORR.
You should've mentioned the music differences too. All the original SOR games have remastered music and added music. SOR4 has their own music with the choice of original SOR music. I prefer the remastered ones, especially the boss fight music, and the poets song (the stage where you see the white house in the background).
"Some consider it a revivel of the Series, but it is NOT...!" It's LITERALLY a revivel of the Series XD It's the first game of the series for a long time, so it revived what had prior to this release been layed down and dead for quite some time - no matter the quality or negatives...
![Streets Of Rage Remake [#PC Review] - The King Of Fan Games?](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fFKOFDHpTfM/mqdefault.jpg)
No offensive no one agrees with you so you don’t have that many views
No offense, but no one cares about you. Thanks for the views.
"Dammit, Morpheus! Not everybody believes what you believe!"
"My beliefs do not require them to."
@@Profar26 Don’t be salty cause only 5% of the community agrees with you. This video should be re-titled “why I like streets remake better than streets of rage 4.” Half of your comments are disagreeing with you, you just like streets of rage remake better.
@@TheEndofTime87567 Appreciate the compliment.
1.2k seem good enough, though I'm sure it'll go higher
Streets of Rage Remake is perhaps the single greatest fan made game ever, and I would agree with your assertion that it just may be the best Streets of Rage game period. And that’s not throwing shade at Streets of Rage 4, rather it’s just giving credit where it’s due. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
Well, I always thought the old game s were better than 4. In the 4th game, the levels were too short, uninspired level design, music was far from terrible but didn't exc3ed the original soundtrack, bosses were cheap, few enemy variants, other than that, 4 is still a great game
Bomber Games SHOULD just make an ORIGINAL Beat em up!!! I'd love that.
Yeah take what they learned make their own IP.
They would just make a knock off SOR lol! Copy and paste
@@LunarLuvzYa 🤣
The only mistake I see so far with Remake is Shiva using a weapon because HE IS THE WEAPON
We need much more fan-games like this. No new-styled pixel looks from current indie titles. Just polish the old games a bit and give them more variety like SoR Remake and Sonic Mania. That´s all we want!
i dunno i'll take the Blaze from Streets of Rage 4's boobs over this one.
wait, what? Sonic Mania? Just heard the gane in here. Other fan-made I had was Silent Hill.
Thanks for the info
I'm OK with modernize the games. But please respect the original artwork and design.
Stop putting western design instead 😭 And dreadlocked girl fighting with her guitar
Hobbo jeans chubby axel is not what I want.
@@michaelromeo9567right! Also ugly muscle women, and fat women. SoR4 has alot of ugliness in it
Streets of Rage Remake by a fucking Landslide because of ONE WORD.
Running!!!! I only used Cherry cause she can run. Game is trash.
Shiva can run
@@daydenhokage260 After one playthrough. Wasn’t worth finding out.
It's not even the fact that running is pretty much gone in SOR4. It's that the game felt so balanced around being able to run so playing as anyone else in 4 just felt kinda awkward imo.
@@evan2902I don't feel so at all, the game is balanced really damn good with or without running. Like from day one i had zero issues finishing the game with characters like Axel or blaze.
I played the hell out of SORR so when SOR4 came out I was honestly pretty disappointed. While I still like SOR4 I think SORR is vastly superior so many features and customization, and the music is godly!!
Yeah Streets of Rage Remake is superior than Streets of Rage 4, and I love Streets of Rage 4. Also, Streets of Rage Remake got an update ver. 5.2. It went from great to amazing. Totally blew away the Mr. X Nightmare DLC.
@@Profar26 Oh snap really? Do i have reinstall the game again? i still have SORR on my PC.
Yes, here you go:
sorr.forumotion.net/t838-new-streets-of-rage-remake-v5-2-download-and-info
I've streamed that ver. 5.2. on my channel as well. You might wanna check it out. Don't forget to subscribe, brother.
@@Profar26 Thanks! And will do brotha!
Yea, SoR4 feels like SoR2 with new art style and some tacked-on extras. Meanwhile SORR is a huge expansion of all games and even takes some chances with new stuff that only adds to the total experience.
Hell, in SOR4 you can't roll as anyone and only run with Cherry.
Great video. It's really sad that Sega didn't do what they did with Sonic Mania and bring these guys on to do an official remake, that would have been awesome.
Also lol they made Ash even more camp gay, I didn't even think that would be possible.
Yeah back then, Sega was literally Nintendo 2.0. If they release the remake now, they probably would remove Ash again. Because it's 2021, we don't want to offend certain "protected individuals" am I right?
Which is so funny seeing as how all the gay folks I've encountered on fan pages on facebook find him hilarious or "fabulous". They fucking love him, ironically. XD
@@Profar26 They even removed him from the most recent Japanese version.
jeez, even Japan is worried about offending people, that's when you know how bad the situation our world is in.@@austinreed7343
Because SEGA didn't bring people to do Mania, the devs pitched the game to SEGA for years until it was accepted.
If it weren't for the efforts and fame of the SORRemake project we wouldn't have gotten a official next installment. The devs behind SOR4 even took some ideas and liberties from the remake.
SORRemake is the greatest fan made love letter to a video game franchise I've ever seen, I just can't believe SEGA shot it down.
Great video. 👍
Both of them are great .
SORR is amazing with the love put in to the games , the sprites, the characters, the tributes to the music, the 90's feel. Honestly, it's truly amazing on it's own right. It has amazing lore, much of a better story and it's just fun . Even I love how you can make decisions based on what you do. You also have multiple endings. Gameplay is solid. Fun.
SOR4 by gameplay is better, even if they don't have the run and roll system for every character but Streets of Rage 3 characters with the run / roll system, with combos, star system flourish in that game making SOR4 one of the deepest Best em ups of all time because of what you can do with so many characters. The DLC of unlocking more moves along with training mode, survival mode , makes SOR4 an actual classic . I honestly prefer SO4 barely over R because I love having fun with their gameplay. Musically wise, it's actually good too and I feel like people don't respect the game enough because it's not nostalgic enough with Yuzo's name written all over it
Agreed. They clearly cared about what they were doing with 4 and the DLC made things even better as you said.
Regarding the music... RISING UP...
nuff said!
@@jonathanlisowski5618Sadly “Rising up” is kind of the exception on the OST
SoR 4 has too many ugly characters and enemies. Its pozzed af
Streets of rage 4 gameplay isn’t better, it’s way too easy to stun lock enemies into oblivion, instead of focusing on timing like in the Ogs it’s just about getting high combos
I agree. I don't like how Axel looks in SR4. He cannot run - wtf. Music is way better in original game (especially in sr1). And graphic design, colors, is kind of weird in sr4, what that a cartoonish?
Thank you so much for 1,000 views everyone. It took 1.5 year to get there, but we did it.
I agree with your statement of the SOR being an amazing beat em up, and the best unoffical SOR game.
I also like SOR4, but like you I don't feel that it is a true sequel to SOR3, SOR4 seems more like SOR2.5 to me, a game that completely forgets elements that SOR3 introduced, such as the possibility that EVERYONE can run and roll or alternative paths with their respective endings, something that SOR Remake expanded, including a store to buy content, thanks to things like this the game becomes more replayable, for that reason I only got to play SOR4 a couple of times, while SOR Remake I don't even remember how many times I replayed it
They should have added all this in streets of rage 4. Especially bring back the streets of rage 3 meter. The “ok” meter at the top for your special moves how u dont waste health for your special move. At least for the streets of rage 2 and 3 characters. Also the thing I love the most about sor remake is it feels like you’re playing the original streets of rage games. I love the pixelated stages and characters more than the sor 4 design. They should have at least have u the option to make it the stages and enemies pixelated just like the original in sor 4. Also playing as Mr x would have been fun for sor4 the should have made the dlc of nightmare x as you playing as more of the bosses with extra moves and fighting all the good guys as bosses that would have been really sick. The main thing I like about sor3 is how they added most of the original stages and using all characters playable. I’ve always enjoyed using the sor 1 chars the most and playing with them in the sor 2 and 3 stages.
But the best thing about this game in my opinion is that u can use extra special moves for the sor 1 characters depending on how many stars you have. All of sor 1 axles extra moves are soo sick! I wish they gave mr x way more moves tho. And his special would be him shooting his gun but walking around with him and shooting his guy is soo fun!
SORR is my personal favorite of the series, I've played it easily 2x more than the rest of the franchise combined. That said, the SOR4 team deserves respect. They've updated the game to be truly worthy of its title, they clearly love the franchise and wanted to do it justice.
I wasn't a huge fan upon release, mainly because it felt bogged down and slow compared to SORR, but they've since won me over.
I'm still more likely to fire up SORR for my next SOR fix, though. :)
You provided quality arguments here. It would be fair if those who criticize your opinion to give you evidence of why SoR4 is better. Personally, it is evident to the blind that SoR remake is the dream game in terms of everything you mentioned. Maybe the new generation gets hooked by the (flash games) - like graphics to they do know anything about what made the original series stand out. A superficial comparison wont serve SoR remake justice. At least we have to appreciate the efforts of Bomber games and how they made the title a platform of infinite re playability. Another thing is that pixel art represents serious efforts from a technical perspective. We play games because of the efforts put behind them and SoR remake is the pinnacle of that. Thanks for the video, your arguments are solid and your delivery is fun and entertaining regardless if one agrees with your perspective or not.
Yeah SORR spoiled us.
To me it's the levels. The levels in SoR4 are just terrible. And that monster immunity sequence is just stupid by design.
TMNT is a MUCH better beat 'em up. I can't believe those 2 games are made by the same company .
SOR Remake and soon to be released, SORX, is definitely outstanding and it has so much content while being very true to SOR 2 and 3 if you really want total nostalgia. But I can never get enough of 4, the refined combat system is phenomenal, definitely another masterpiece!
Whats streets of rage X ???
Too bad half of the aesthetics suck or are too western 😥
@@rogercolon619 something similar to SoR Remake, a sort of modern SoR game engine
@@kwkfortythree39 yeah , I actually downloaded the game on my phone already aftet researching it haha , pretty much plays better than the remake . Ive always wanted to play SOR 1,2, and 3 with SOR4 mechanics haha
100% - Bomber games done incredible work!
bruh this is deco quality how the fuck you not at lesst 100 subs
For some reason, your comment was hidden. I just found this on my UA-cam Studio app. Thank you greatestgamer00, I appreciate it.
@@Profar26 np
@@greatestgamer00 Make sure to check out my other videos as well. I cover fighting games in this channel as well.
IKR
You presented some good arguments. It's a shame you threw your opinion out in front of all of them.
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SOR4 being an official game is tied to certain contractual obligations tied to the IP, unlike small indie game studios that can go wild with the features they want to include.
Really too, SORR "features = love+time" while SOR4 "features = dev costs".
I really didnt like SOR4 it felt dated. After decades of playing beat-em-ups the devs did nothing to pull any advancements in gameplay systems to the new game. I found myself just rather wanting to play the older games instead.
Streets of Rage Remake is the best!!!
SoRR is the best sor game ever made imo. i LOVE sor4 though
I agree. Sor4 is a good game but it isn't better then 2, the remake or even 3. What annoys me the most is they avoided 3 because it's hated by fans, but they took out all the good things about it, like weapon attacks, and running/rolling, the speed ,but THEY KEPT the bad shit like ENVIROMENT HAZARDS! like wrecking balls etc. I hate that shit, and why out of all the characters the only one they tried to make look old was Axel. Not to mention in sor1 Axel had more speed then Adam, in 4 Axel is the slowest character besides Max and Floyd. Idk I can go on. The music sucks too in 4 fight me.
You perfectly described why this is my favorite Streets of Rage game (SoRR).
SOR4 "Combo system", oh, you mean like you show us in your video where the player hit some enemies, then don't hit anything for like five freaking seconds as they slowly go in another part of the screen to hit some other enemy and by some kind of magic that bullshit game still register the whole thing as ONE combo instead of two separate ones? *snorts* Talk about taking the piss...
That's just the combo count, you are aware that there are now actual combos in the game right? Like there is more than the punch loop from older games. Just look up Shiva or Estelle combos and show me someone doing these things in the other games, remake included.
I'd have loved it if, as with Head Canon and Sonic Mania, Sega had hired BomberGames to make Streets of Rage 4.
But I enjoy both Remake and 4.
You made your points well despite what a bunch of jilted people here seem to say.
SOR4 has 4-player couch co-op and a bunch of great new original content, but I don't love the presentation of vector-style graphics with the chunky old sprites! BLECH! The lack of running is kinda weak too, but overall it helps to support the new game if you wanna see the franchise--and genre--survive.
..but the Remake is the best; like you said it might be the best beat-em-up to date!
After playing streets of rage 4 alot, I can't go back to the old games. They are too slow and the combo system in 4 is perfect and feels off when I can't combo like that in other beat'em ups.
My only problem with sorremake is that their isn't an sor3 senario like sor & sor2. Yeah i know that sor3 levels are mixed in the game but i wanted to play them in order, my favorite parts are the bulldozer part followed by fighting against axel android on top of the construction site. In this remake you don't fight him. Do like the cody appearences though😅.
I played Remake before 4. I too really like both games. Especially SoR4's four player coop. Which is awesome to play on the rare occasions I have all my mates over at the same time.
But Remake is still the better game. Due to its replayability. Even my friend who was a big Nintendo kid and didn't play SoR growing up. Still said he enjoys playing Remake more.
He also acknowledged that back he wouldn't have a said this. But SEGA SoR Trilogy is way better than SNES Final Fight trilogy.
What do you think about streets of rage 2x? I believe that that game is the ultimate sor title and more when the new update drops 🔥🔥🔥
I have never tried Streets of Rage 2X sadly. I might want to check it out.
My god I love the second fight with shiva in the white house and how the rage moves makes everyone hit like a truck
@@jorge8108 It looks good though. But I still think Remake is the ultimate SOR game. The overall production quality of Remake trumps over 2X. Remake's overall presentation is like what you expect from an official studio.
@@Profar26 Soooo... "Gwaphics".. 🙄
@@Blit-X-TVLive What?
But it doesn't. 4 looks like a finished "new" game. A game from the ground up. After 4 comes 2 because it did everything within it's limits. remake is just a modified version of that. I tough some stages in the remake looked kinda ugly even.
I really wish Sega had gotten Bomber Games to do SOR 4 like how they got the guys who made a bunch of Sonic fan games to do Sonic Mania.
Totally agree with everything you said
I am disappointed with SOR4 lack of special moves with weapons...
I really don't like the replacement of Fog with fat DEI motorcycle lesbians
only those who didn't play the originals back at that time thinks street of rage 4 is a good game which in fact it is a CRAP ! full of bad decision for example removing the ability to double tap forward and run like street of rage 3. and etc...
I think street of rage remake the fan made unofficial one, is the better game I still play this one and enjoy instead of the crapy street of rage 4
sor4 is fine, but it's way too westernized and cartoony for me to appreciate it. I don't like the modern aestetic, and some of the character designs. I struggle to return to it over the others.
SOR3 had multiple paths
This is lovely
Thank you Addy.
Only thing 4 had better was juggles only because Remake didn’t have them. I still prefer the Remake over 4 though
Look, SOR Remake has my absolute respect. But you're wrong on a few things here
1: While the SOR4 characters can't usually run, you can actually unlock and play as every SOR3 character in SOR4, complete with running. Also Barbon is easy, just dodge vertically.
2: Branching Path storyline. A great feature, a cool idea - but not really that big of a deal. Especially when you figure in that most of the areas in the remake, are areas from SOR1-3. All the stages in SOR4 are original.
3: SOR4 had 17 characters. Now, it has 21 - via the DLC. Which currently costs 3 bucks. And also features a new game mode, and moveset customization. So while SOR Remake MIGHT have been better (by a single character) before, it now falls short. Also, not modifying the characters is something I like - it has the EXACT same gameplay as the original. I want to play SOR1 Blaze, not "SOR1 Blaze but her attacks have been nerfed for being OP". SOR1 Blaze remains strong as hell in SOR4, and that's fine - unless you're a damn good player, you're probably not unlocking her before reaching the final boss, anyways.
4: Again, outdated. The movesets of the new characters are fully customizable, something that isn't present in SOR Remake. But hey, the DLC came out after this video, so your point was correct at the time of you posting this.
5: Sormaker is cool .That's your best point, I like that feature a LOT. So that's me giving you props, that's absolutely cool.
The alternate movesets are so busted that they fuck the game up. SoRR is actually challenging and doesnt have infinites. SoR4 also has a lot of ugly character designs in it. Fat women, masculine muscle women, gorilla looking characters. Its bad
Street of Rage 4 does not come close to being a sequel to the original 3.
Nah , street of rage 4 its waaaaaay better , remake gameplay it's fine but feels old.
100% agreed, that is precisely why i've never and will never buy SOR4 aka SOR2.5...
I mean you can't just skip all the good things that the previous games had. That's exactly what Dotemu did : retain all the good things of SOR1 & 2 except SOR3.... It's almost as if this game never existed to Dotemu... Ok SOR3 isn't the best SOR but it's still a good game ( minus to the soundtrack and the difficulty)
When I was following SOR4 before release, I honestly thought they'd try to outdo Remake in every way. But all they really ended up doing was taking the Train Roof level, and maybe a few cosmetic features. With 12 stages, there really should have been a path split, especially as the villains are twins (there could have been a "Go after Mr Y/Ms Y" choice). What I really like about Remake is the use of >> Specials, but not every character has it. My main problem with SOR4 is the enemy cheapness and inconsistent hitboxes, which make it unplayable for me. Modding is also easier in Remake, whereas you need additional programs to do it in 4. In fact, I made my own soundtrack series because of Remake. Did you play Remake 5.2 btw?
where can you get Remake 5.2 I'm interested? Also, love your music 👍
@@ryotakawamoto9108 Thanks man. There are links on the SORR community forums.
@@ryotakawamoto9108 I post it on the description.
Gameplay wise, I can see what you mean, as remake brings flexibility and varieties. But I really like the quality of sor4.
SORR is one my favourite beat em up games. And speaking of customization, there are some modders who created custom bgm, sound effects, and even replacing a characters / enemies with new sprite to make it like a new ones (Like Vegeta from Dragon Ball, Chun Li from Street Fighter, and even Sonic the Hedgehog)
Also, speaking of SORMAKER, well, those classic games at 0:43, did you know if there are some SOR Remake MOD inspired by them? I'm playing The King of Dragons, Knights of the Round, Alien VS Predator, Cadillac and Dinosaurs, The Punisher, Warriors of Fate, and Captain Commando, all of those on SORR
All of those MOD was created by person named "Cm_Blast". I'm big fan of him, to be honest.
Agree COMPLETELY.
SoRR is easily the best fangame ever made, to me 4 doesnt even hold a candle to Remake. honestly i never understood why SEGA and Bomberlink never just worked together to make this official.
SORMaker imo is the best feature and arguably what SEGA feared, hence why it was banhammered within days of the complete release (SORRV5) sorry but not sorry SEGA, but what is uploaded to the internet cannot be completely removed from it.
SoRR exists to this day and is still getting Revisions, not to mention SORMaker submissions, allowing you to rage in so many more stages. in 2024 i will even be starting work on my own submission, a SOR 3,5 of sorts, a 14 part storyline that gives every playable character a story chapter as well as a prologue and epilogue, including Mr X.
Said all of this and more day one of SOR4!
Shoot, even SOR1 At least had multiple endings. How 26 years later do you take such a step back in replay value?!
They are totally different games in some aspect. SORR is a sexy homage to the originals. SOR4 is a sequel. SORR is the winner in my book.
I enjoyed this video, I also have this game, from ver 4 to ver the current one. One other thing I think you missed that makes the game better the 4 is the music. Remakes and covers of the original music was so awesome, which I also downloaded, both music version too. Cool video tho
SOR REMAKE IS TOP TIER AND ALL THE MODS THAT THEY MADE FOR IT
Service Games = SEGA
Bomber Games = BOGA!!!
The only one good thing in Sor4 is Sapphire (Garnet, Ruby, Diamond, Pyrop and Amethyst (Sapyr)
Every thing is good in sor3 except for music, if yuzo koshiro takes time to create banger than it would get more famous than other titles.
Wrong, SOR3 had some great songs.
Not all of them but there were some good ones there like the first level stage,
and the one where you go to the White House. The beach song was good too.
I absolutely hate how infuriating some of the enemies in 4 are. The “flashing invisibility” time when they get up or at certain stages in the fight, can instill pure rage in me. Also your character seems soo slow, you can’t get out of the way much of the time, why. I mean, there’s bad crap coming your way, and there’s not a dash or run button. Fat guy rolling or belly flopping toward you? well your getting hit because your character needs to cool guy strut out of the way. Oh your supposed to do a defense special move? well that takes health that you slowly regain if you deal 50 times the damage then the move was worth to begin with, oh but you’ll get hit, because your character is god awful slow to react, or the bad guy turns invisible and slaps you. They made the special moves useless. The only one you can use if the dash move. Which is kinda weird they call it a dash move, because it really only goes forward and you get hit a lot of times when doing it. There needs to be a dash button and the ability to dash in different directions, and it doesn’t need to be an attach move. It just seems like a cheap way to make the game hard, and it makes your character seem lethargic.
Honestly in this case i feel this is a personal issue, not a game issue
Streets of Rage 4 is mid at best. To this day I still hate how lightweight all the hits sound. No running or rolling so that's a automatic downgrade from 3 and I'll never get over the devs not at least having Yuzo compose the whole ost instead of a few songs. Playing with old character sprites mixed into the newer artstyle backgrounds is one of the cheapest things done to a beloved franchise and besides the first stage and the museum stage I can’t remember a single bgm from that game today. I rate Remake or The Takeover as the true SOR4.
This a fun fan made game but no where near as good as part 4.
Hmm, can't knock your perspective. It's worth noting that Dotemu DEFINITELY borrowed some ideas from Bomber Games when it came to Adam's movelist
bro fr called a company petty for taking down a literal remake of a game they made 😭😭
...and he is correct. Open your eyes, don't be a corporate tool.
They weren’t making any money from it
Some parts of this video aged like milk lol I agree with a lot of your points, but damn, you went hard on Dotemu and SOR4, jeez! haha SOR4 and SORR are both awesome games that both have their strengths
Yes is better, SOR4 is a good game but dont better than SOR Remake or Streets of rage 1.
Retro soundtrack on SOR4 is a joke, game gear music and SOR2 soundtrack make me turn off the mintendo switch
El 4 esta muy bien,el remake es una obra de arte..hay que esperar el SOR4 remake de bomber games..
Estoy de acuerdo.
SOR4 isn't SOR. Remake is god tier compared to the nickelodeon game.
LMAO Nickelodeon game. 🤣
Wish I could play this on Mac
Eh, I still like SOR4 more because of the polish and loyalty to the originals, but I can see why you like SORR more
"Loyalty to the originals"? What did you play man?
@@НемањаМићић-к9р yeah, loyalty to the originals because they didn’t change up the sprites. One of this guy’s points in this video is literally that SORR changes how the sprites look; that’s not how they looked back in the day and you know damn well
@MarcusGronkowski They redid the first Streets of Rage's sprites to look and feel similar to SOR3, if they didn't it wouldn't look good due to the size of the sprites being completely different from one another.
SOR Remake is the best of all series. You forgot to mention the up and down roll. Plus man the music was real on real instruments not midi. I loved it and I was thinking Sega would buy it from Bomber Games instead of shutting it down.
Anybody who thinks DotEmu revived SOR is HIGHLY uninformed. Streets of Rage has ALWAYS been heavily requested the be revived by Sega. BomberGames was doing fine with the series, and many fans were enjoying their work. Sega didn't even mind them doing what they were doing UNTIL they released V4, which DESTROYED every SOR game out there, and they were given a desist order by Sega themselves. That's why the game couldn't be downloaded for a while. Nobody would download and PAY for old SOR games if this one was free and BETTER in EVERY way to the other games. Soon after fans were releasing HUNDREDS of videos of their SORR gameplay, Streets of Rage was back in the trending zone. The Streets of Rage characters were then put in the mobiel game Sega All Stars. Because of this, Sega opted to put Axel in Project X Zone 2 as an assist character. Now Sega officially acknowledged that Streets of Rage existed. The fan outcry for a new SOR title grew even more, and Sega decided to let DotEmu do the game, BUT Sega did NOT give them the same funding as let's say a certain Blue Hedgehog? DotEmu was pretty much on their own. They did a great job, but they already had YEARS worth of support from fans who were already going to buy the game based SOLELY on the title. They even specifically had to differentiate it FROM Streets of Rage Remake so that fans wouldn't call it a knock off. (Adam's new Custom Neutral Special in SOR4 is literally his neutral special from Remake 🤦♂️ ). Sorry, I LOVE SOR4, but DotEmu did NOT revive the Streets of Rage franchise. Remake did.
Actually DotEmu did bring SOR back to the mainstream . Yes, SOR never really was dead and the remakes are excellent, but SOR4 with DOTEMU'S platform brought it back due to more casual fans and new fans alike. Don't be too nostalgic.
@@Greenworldjamal You just admitted though that SOR was never really dead...so how can DotEmu revive something that isn't dead? See what I'm saying? I'm not knocking SOR4 because I think it's the best in the series. Unpopular opinion: I think SOR4 has the best gameplay AND soundtrack. The story of SOR3 was better, and the boss themes of the old games were better, but that's it. SOR4 is a lot more FUN than the others. That said, I still won't say that DotEmu is solely responsible for the revival of the franchise. People were HEAVILY into SORR, which provided still to this day, the most fan service and updates possible, and Bombergames made it free for everyone. For me, Bombergames is what brought this back most.
my childhood game. biggest fan of Street of Rage
I'm in agreement with u. Having not played remake yet I have watched alot of videos and I'm extremely jealous of ppl who have played it. In all fairness to part 4 tho, this video must've come out before the DLC Mr. X's Noghtmare was released. IMO streets of Rage 4 is still a truly great game, with the DLC u get to play as 4s Shiva, Max, and Estel
U can also get 3s Roo. It also included different character colors, special moves and an epic survival mode. Even still, with all those additions Remake still looks like the better game.
You can play the Remake by downloading the game from the link in the description.
I've got to get a computer first. Can't play it on my ps4 I don't think. I've tried using the web browser but I just keep getting error codes.
How can I get SORR to work on my MacBook Pro? Tried installing it before but couldn't get it to open
I honestly felt that for SOR2 the only thing missing was being a bit longer and the ability for all the players to run... which is why I always played with Skate... so the speed from SOR3 ported to SOR2 would've been the ultimate experience.. still SOR2 is the best one of all.
well for u to say that street of rage remake is better than 4 i can understand that because street of rage 4 has many mistakes and less options than the remake .. but saying that street of rage 2 is better than 3 that is totally stupid .. and based on nostalgia only .. the fact is .. sor 3 is way better than 1 and 2 for 5 reasons
1- they can run .. ok yea they can run .. one of ur reasons .. but sor 2 they r still crawling
2- sor 3 has better animation than sor 2 .. thats out of discussion
3- controls are more better and responsive in sor 3 .. while sor 2 is very slow and clunky
4- sor 3 is more longer stages about 2 hours long and branched story as u wanted .. sor 2 can be beaten in 30 minutes yea
5- sor 3 more better and modern sound tracks than sor 2 if u get use to it
and if u want 1 more reason to be 6 its more ( characters and enemies and bosses )
i do love sor 2 and 3 but lets be honest and throw the nostalgia in the corner for awhile .. u cannot say that sor 1- 2 is better than 3 that is not logical at all its dumbest thing ever .. maybe that time we was children .. we r not wise enough to realize how better sor 3 was but we r old now and we can notice the true without fooling our self's .. sor 3 is still holding up until today if u play it in 2022 thats how good it was but sor 2 is getting old and aged its barely matching with final fight
First of all, write in English better. It's hard for me to understand what you are trying to say.
Second, I never said Streets of Rage 2 is better than Streets of Rage 3. In fact, if you watched my latest video on 5 Streets of Rage Games Ranked, I put 3 above 2 and 1.
Third, after reading your comment comprehensively. I do agree with you.
Sor 2 barely matching with Final Fight? There's alot of things that they did better than in Final Fight, especially the way how enemies attack and the response time to get out of their attacks.
Sorry to wake you up on an old post and i understand what you are saying here. Still, saying which SoR is the best will always be an opinion. SoR3 has more features than the previous two and plays faster, but it's very easy to abuse the blitz/dash move with two or three stars, endlessly going from left to right and back while performing this move constantly. Blaze is my fave in 3 and even with the other characters i usually end up doing this with two or three stars. It starts to look silly after a while. Running is a bonus, but the dodge rolls are useless. If i wanna dodge, i just take a step back and turn around when an enemy is about to hit before i can, or just walk up or down in time. This tactic works in every SoR game, without running and dodge rolls. Then there's how the game feels. Three is faster and has more animations, but the combat feels floaty compared to previous games and the sound fx sometimes get cut out of the mix, making it feel like hitting air instead of an enemy. Also, the visuals (colors) of three are not an upgrade when compared to the second one or even the first in my opinion, as is the music. Some tracks are really great, while others i just can't listen too, like the one playing in the disco stage. The biggest upgrades three made are the ability to do new and special moves with weapons and the energy meter for specials. The rest of the game isn't "better" than the others. For example, SoR1 has the best soundtrack in my opinion and portrays the city in a much more convincing way, going through the seemingly connected stages during the night and ending up at Mr. X during sunrise. Going from a neon lit street to a back alley, leading to the beach and then a port, before going on a boat that takes you to a factory underneath Mr. X's place, and then work your way up the building while the sun rises through the windows during the final section. Paired with the great soundtrack and how great Blaze plays here, it might even be my favorite in the series. The biggest downsides are the 30fps and no ability to drop or throw away any weapon. Have to say though, i've played SoR2 the most of them all.
I actually prefer SOR4. Of course they wouldn’t change up the character designs for SOR1; literally the whole point is to celebrate SOR history. They can’t just change the past by reworking their pixel art. Same reason why Shiva still can’t pick up items just like he couldn’t in SOR3
Then why cant shiva do his back long jump when you try to roll as him in the original streets of rage 3
You are correct, streets of rage remake is way way better than SOR4. It's not even close.
I love both SOR4 and SOR Remake, but I wish SORemake could have the Combat system and extra customization of SOR 2X. In my mind, I just combine those 2 games and call them the best SOR game ever.
honestly, i like both, but it wouldve been better imo if the developers took the best from all 3 games instead of just stuck to the first 2.
I heard of this game and don't understand why I've never got it. It looks like absolute perfection. I must get it. I wish SEGA would have done this on the Saturn. I wish they would make a fan-game like this for SEGA's Outrun.
nice video
Thank you Klazke
It’s a fan made game which is fun no doubt they basically took what sucked out of the older games and made it better I still like 4 though
Amen!
I Actually prefer not having everybody have sprint, makes each character feel more unique and changes your playstyle, everybody having sprint made them have less replayability to me thx to all the movement being similar.
I also never liked the guns, milled the point of characters. Also SoR4 has 21 characters now.
Branching Story is amazing tho.
I much prefer just keeping the old characters the way they were (since thats the point) changing them to fit the game makes them not the old characters. Also fancy screen wipes are so much more boring than unique star attacks.
yeah the only customization in 4 is just 3 alt colors and 5 new moves to swap between.
u never actually compared SoR4 features to Remake and simply kept saying they did more. as for the revival well yeah SoR4 is gonna get all the credit because it did do that, SoR4 is much more accessible than Remake and has a more modern artsyle along with retro inspired new music.
Most of the things u say Remake does “better” arent really better just different.
Streets of Rage Remake has secret moves! Example: SOR 2 Axel's dashing special attack.
The more I play SoR4 the less I like it. On higher difficulties the enemies become very cheap and the game feels less rewarding. My best game? SoR2 with SoR3 character move sets.
SOR4 is fun, but Remake has branching paths, longer and more developed story, and just so many bonuses. I'm glad we have both, but it's a travesty that Remake was shut down.
Sadest thing about Sor 4 is the devs painted themselves at Max's fight. Even one of them add their girlfriend too. La french touch mon boul ! they don't deserve respect like bomber game
I told that in my 2020 review of that game. This IP is special to me as it ignited my core passion for video-game when I was 5. With 4 years behind us, I can agree with you on everything, when a fan game delivers more options than your green lit game, you can only check on the mirror.
SoR remake is not the best beat em all game of all time IMHO, the title is for Tmnt shredder's revenge or Fight n Rage or DnD Shadow over Mystara.
Hard to say that my personal best of this genre is not one of the SoR series but it's true. SoR 4 was nerfed because of fanboyism.
There's also another great remake called Streets of Rage 2X, I made a review of it my channel, and a spiritual successor called The Takedown. It even has voice actors from Final fantasy 7 and DBZ Abridged. Great Video. Keep it up, brother.
nah. SOR4 is way better.
Ok
Great video I enjoyed it cool game
SOR Remake is a labor of love. Bomber games did an entire fan game on an IP that was forgotten for ages. And did mostly from their pockets and the game was free
SOR4 on the other hand, had investments and the product was sold.
If you compare both, they are different approaches to SOR but the remake is a fan service game, probably it started to show SEGA that their old IP's still have a huge loyal fanbase, thats why we have news of a New Golden Axe, Shinobi and conversations about SOR 5
Hello Profar, gw akan sampaikan dengan bahasa indo karena bahasa inggris gw ngga bagus...
Overall gw setuju dengan opini km tentang bagaimana pandangan tentang SOR remake, karena gw sejak kecil tumbuh bareng side scrolling beat em up apalagi seri double dragon hingga street of rage. SORR menurut gw feelnya lebih dapet dengan beberapa pertimbangan seperti fitur gameplay, kustomisasi, replayability stage yang berbeda-beda, pilihan mobs yang variatif dari semua seri SOR (kita bisa mukulin 3 variant garcia yang berbeda-beda) bahkan menu item shop dan editor buat nambah fun pengalaman saat bermain.
Beberapa fitur seperti branching path dengan pilihan 4 starting point stage dan CPU teammate merupakan sebuah terobosan beat em up yang baru, karena sepengetahuan gw blm ada beat em up dengan mengimplementasikan kedua fitur tersebut. Pilihan Stage yang dibawakan SORR juga lebih terasa dinamis, seperti stage naik motor dan jetski (mirip surfingnya di game TMNT dan Capt Commando), trus ada sedikit sentuhan platformer dan obstacle seperti di stage diatas kereta berjalan, di terowongan kereta bawah tanah dan beragam stage area yang lekat dengan environment era 90'an. Entah kenapa representasi stage di SORR baik itu dibuat ulang maupun yang sudah disempurnakan oleh Bomber Games selaku developer benar-benar sangat terasa aspek nostalgianya.
Selebihnya gw mengakui redesign asset dari karakter, animasi & moveset, mekanisme game, stage area hingga soundtrack memang bukan kaleng-kaleng untuk sekelas game modding. OST ikonik fighting in the street, go straight, dreamer hingga violent breathing digarap secara epik oleh fans tanpa mengurangi esensi yang disematkan oleh yuzo koshiro (creatornya). SORR sejatinya bisa bersaing dengan game-game "legit" beat-em up yang dinaungi oleh developer besar. Sudah tentu SOR4 secara aspek grafis yang ditawarkan seperti visual effect, animasi dan actionnya jauh lebih fenomenal dan memanjakan mata daripada SORR, namun begitu Bomber Games mampu memberikan sebuah jawaban bahwa game klasik akan memiliki kelasnya sendiri di dunia modern (while classic look classy).
Sekedar tambahan, ada satu lagi game mod beat-em up yang lagi gw pantengin karena potensinya bisa mendekati SORR walaupun pengerjaannya sendiri terbilang cukup lama. Namanya Ultimate Double Dragon, di desain ulang oleh small developer berbasis dari game Super Double Dragon (SNES). Fitur mekanik gameplay yang ditawarin cukup menarik, mengingat developernya adalah veteran game fighting, dia juga menambahkan referensi animasi moveset dari berbagai game fighting ternama seperti mortal kombat, killer instinct, samurai shodown, dan sebagainya. Mereka juga mendesain secara detil untuk playable karakter, mobs dan boss (tambahan karakter mob yang ditampilkan sempat dibuat langsung oleh creatornya Kishimoto-san dengan cara dibeli oleh pihak developer UDD). Selain itu beberapa stage areanya juga di desain ulang dan memiliki branching path walau pilihannya nggak sebanyak SORR.
You should've mentioned the music differences too. All the original SOR games have remastered music and added music. SOR4 has their own music with the choice of original SOR music. I prefer the remastered ones, especially the boss fight music, and the poets song (the stage where you see the white house in the background).
"Some consider it a revivel of the Series, but it is NOT...!"
It's LITERALLY a revivel of the Series XD It's the first game of the series for a long time, so it revived what had prior to this release been layed down and dead for quite some time - no matter the quality or negatives...