United Airlines launches a pilot academy to address staffing shortage
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Amid a pilot shortage, United Airlines is helping to grow the next generation of pilots with its Aviate Academy. The new initiative will increase the number of women and people of color flying planes. Errol Barnett has the details.
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Great idea! Our son (37) went back to school and is now a pilot. Becoming a pilot is VERY expensive and very time consuming. Anything they can do to get more competent pilots is needed.
But it pays well so it’s worth it
Wow he went to pursue it at 37?
@@LordBagdanoff right isn’t that too old
That’s amazing!! You’re never too old!
@@auroramothergoddess as long as people can pass the physical and get there medical certifcate to fly.
If only more big companies would offer these types of programs.
I think Frontier is paired with Embry Riddle in Florida now too
It's not free. They need to provide training for free.
American Airlines does
I'm a POC from limited means and started taking lessons back when I was 15 years old by working in an orchard for money to fly. I'm 34 now, Commercial Pilot flying corporate aircraft, Certified Flight Instructor, Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, and former US Army Aviator. Great program and idea, it's just my hope that they don't focus so much on gender and race that they forget about the qualities and skills that make a good Aviator. I wish the students well.
Big respect to you for saying that
I completely agree! I was turned off by how they showed the AA young man who’s father was a pilot. When he mentioned “it’s a great program to bring down those financial barriers to the community”. Like….what? Isn’t your father a pilot with 10-15 years experience? How is he the underprivileged????
The Flight Training Industry needs a huge infusion of accountable cash to overcome the obstacles they've already built. You can't make something out of nothing...
I started my journey of obtaining my private pilot license in 2017. And my first introductory flight was Awesome. And wanted to go back right after that. I love to travel and fly. And have been on it every sense. Not, bad for man in his middle 40's. I will obtain my private pilot license. My personal aviation goal is to become a first officer for an regional airline. That would be awesome. I'm currently an professional truck driver and transportation professional specialist.
If flight schools weren't expensive then there would be more pilots
What they don’t tell you is that YOU have to pay for your training at their academy 😂
😂😂😂
shocker
I’ve seen this movie before. A lot of airlines implemented this back in the 70 - 80s….
My senior captain by at least 20 years told me he couldn’t get a job with an airline in the 80s even with thousands of hours. He also told me that women for some reason were in the same hiring pool when their experience level was dwarfed by their male counterparts.
I got No problems with women pilots, i just want equal treatment
@@WildandAwake he's mentioning skill and ability. Has nothing to do with the "times". Would you feel safer with a more capable man or a less capable woman who was brought on just due to politics? Skill is skill. Either you have it or you need to work on it.
If this was free, i'd be applying right now...but still having to spend $80k is still a huge financial barrier
Why is he standing at American Airlines when he’s reporting on United?
Because they have no attention to detail
At the end they said they wanted to recognize American Airlines as well.
Don’t let this fool anyone. All United wants to do is staff their understaffed underpaid “regional pilots” the ceo even said it himself on here. Their “regional routes”…..that’s all they care about. They lure you in with a possibility and hope to work for the better mainline airline. The real United airlines……..
Exactly. A little CRJ or turboprop into Peoria
And they only help pay if your the right color. Read the fine print.
@@16sondra can you explain?
@@briannac2231 they have sponsors that will pay your way if you are not white.
There is a big time gap of many years of hard work and low pay from starting Pilot training to actually making “six figures” that many don’t understand that also is part of the reasoning there is a pilot shortage.
Insofar I've kept track of, maybe 2-3% of those who started with Private alongside me in flight school ever made it to ATP/professional aviation.
@@sloth6765 What’s the main reason that most failed? Ability or financial…or both?
@@lakeconroehouse both
Best comment so far, I totally agree with you.
The problem is anyone can borrow money to go to law school or med school with ease. Unfortunately it’s not as easy to borrow a measly $70,000 for flight school. If you want to borrow $200,000 for a law degree no problem.
Let me get this straight. It’s a shortage of staff of their own making!!!!!
This will only make the occupation more accessible, you saw how happy that flight attendant was upgrading her wings 🥰
Funny, you'd think if they were hurting for pilots so much, they'd be trying to recruit existing pilots from other sectors? Yet (as a helicopter pilot myself) I've haven't received a single solicitation from a single airline to "switch teams".
On the other hand, I also have a Class A CDL, and get hit up by trucking companies every week to drive for them.
How the crap do you afford helicopter training? I spent $10K just getting my Private Pilot Certificate and helicopter rentals were always twice the cost of the Warriors I trained in.
@@sean2015 I buried myself in debt.
There are enough pilots… they have thousands of resumes ready. But The problem is that nobody wants to fly for the regionals since they are overworked and underpaid.
Major will have the same issues. Matter of time
Everyone has to fly regionals at one point. You can’t just expect to hop over the hard part and start making 6 figures flying long hauls lol. That’s just unreal expectation.
Even if it’s low cost I am still staying away from United
No you’re not
💕 Woo hoo! I LOVE this. And a huge congratulations to Ricki for settling aside her fears and becoming a pilot. There are only 5% of women pilots in the entire world, so that’s an amazing accomplishment! We need more women in aviation - especially more women of color.
Any industry makes it difficult to get into if you have kids
Do most women want the lifestyle of a pilot? Nothing is stopping women from signing up for school and doing long hours to complete flight hours.
And only 1% are black woman .
Pilot training programs but how much ?
I gave it my best to try and become a pilot, I can only understand why there is such a shortage giving all the barriers..
What barriers are those ?
@@auroramothergoddess The cost of training (for one), and add to that no guarantees that you will even make it through training. As I can personally attest.
After the economy tanked (prior to 2010) it would've been difficult to accrue hours as a CFI(I) just based on the fewer number of students flying.
@@sean2015 I want to become one but feel like I can’t because I have a child
@@auroramothergoddess Just do it! Many female pilots are moms.
@@sonya5832 thank you for the encouragement
I have always wanted to be a pilot but it's so expensive and I don't want to go into debt instead I just waste all my free time playing flight sims
Glad they are doing that. In years prior if you did not come from the military it would be years of struggle before you could actually sit in one of those cockpits. And you had to pay for all the training yourself. Glad it caught up to them and they responded
Only if your a minority. Read the fine print.
Went to college to become a pilot. After a year I decided it wasn’t for me. I am now a Financial Advisor. I like my place here on the ground and get my thrills on my motorcycle.
What made you decide against being a pilot?
@@rickyaguilar38 wasn’t comfortable with it. 3 weeks in they were like, oh you’ll be flying on your own in about a month. I was like 😳 😆 Just wasn’t for me.
@@jeremyh8446 hmmm I’m assuming you were very good then, shocking you decided not. Considering you also have a motorcycle which is all about safety as well as being on point with your defensive driving
@@rickyaguilar38 Yea, I guess it was just the fact of being thousands of feet in the air lol. Flying has a lot of technicalities involved with it as well. I’m happy with my choice. I love my motorcycle, but I’m glad it’s not my day job.
@@jeremyh8446 hmmm I ride motorcycles as well. Love them. I would figure that flying would be just as equal to that (especially the adrenaline)
Taking my introductory flight this morning! Excited
This has been coming for a long time. There is a huge shortage of pilots and it will continue for years to come. They only make $40K when they start flying commercial. And then they are saddled with loans and debt. It’s pretty bad considering they have a very important job.
I made almost 90k when I was a FO for Envoy, which is a regional partner with American Airlines, when you fly for a legacy carrier your pay starts at 100k or more. That’s not to say there are pilots that make 40k or less though.
@@cody7068 Good to know. I spoke with a commercial carrier pilot a few years ago and he told me that starting wages were pretty low.
I wish I was 18 I'm 16 now and want to be a pilot but flight school is expensive hopefully Its around when I'm 18
It will be around, enjoy being young.
#FlyNavy
I would love to do this United Academy but it costs $70k.
exactly. The story makes it seem like "pilot academy" will be very cheap. If I had $70k, I would quit my job, go to school full time.
I search for the toyota in every video. It’s like a scavenger hunt
They'd rather find people with zero experience then hire those that do, United had lost their minds with Kirby leading the way
What? So, what you're saying is they're finding people off the street and hiring people to fly mainline airplanes with zero experience?
What’s next doctors
😅 Recruiting people off the street to become doctors with an emphasis on women and people of color!
@@exoressdelivers70 lol
@@exoressdelivers70 one way to solve homeless population 😂
Plenty of Indians and Arabs to fill the gap
After just a few mins of research it seems like this just a way to get people through door, put them through debt and they would have no choice but to work for them regardless of being underpaid or over worked. Why does the working class have to go through so much just to have a little something to show for it and not even that?
Sounds like a huge win/win! I would have jumped at the chance if offered this oppurtunity.
Hey, this is all great but how much it’s gonna cost?
How much is it gonna cost who? The pilots in training or United?
How much this is going cost the student pilot?
@@tomasvalentin6896 80k
why didnt you just google the damn program
Thank you, I guess I will do that
I thought it would be in Chicago because of the hub..
Arizona has Better weather for flight training.
Is there vision requirements?
Yes. I don’t know what they are but it would be included in the federal medical screening you have to pass. I would like to do this program but I have high BP, have to lower that first.
thank you
Affirmative action at its finest. ❤️❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Dumping their senior pilots like unwanted baggage.
I mean they literally have to retire at 65 lol it’s not that they just dump them because they don’t want them anymore it’s because it’s federally mandated that they retire at that age
There’s pilots who wanted to be pilots since little , very little kids , 👩✈️ 👨✈️ , ✈️
And there’s others ( well grown ) only for the opportunity , .....
Is this a full-fledged flight school? Do these pilots have to pass the same tests and get the same licensure as current regular pilots? Or is this a watered down certificate version of real pilot school?
Everyone has to pass the same practical test standards and receive the same hours. There's no exception to those rules. Why would you assume this?
Getting a Private Pilot License is a stretch but doable for many people at only 40 hrs of flight. The issue with getting a transport license or ATP is the 1500 hrs of flight time across numerous special conditions. To qualify up for commercial jets, the PPLs need to stack up night flights, cross country flights, multi-engine aircraft, and flying in simulated/actual no vision conditions.
Those hours are expensive to build up and realistically require either a program like this or some other non-ATP flying job, like crop-dusting, aerial photography, or relocation services. Programs like this around the airlines are effectively paying the flight costs for the 1500 hrs of flight to then get a pilot for their fleet. In times of extreme labor shortage, like in Dec 2021, certain airlines were offering 2-3.5x overtime pay for pilots to take additional flights to cover the Christmas holidays.
Y they talk about United Airlines with the American logo on the back
Do they require experience? What are the qualifications & requirements to become a pilot?
Seems like united is taking the same approach to training as the trucking industry does
Most people are not willing to spend $100,000 for a career that might not be there.
I love this!!!
Not when you work in NYC and have to go to EWR JFK IR LGA it’s a 2 hour commute and the transit system sucks. That’s why they have pilots that would rather fly overseas or cargo to avoid NYC
Great story!
Can't wait to start flying with these fine aviators.
What about retired Air Force pilots!!!
Yeah right
To end the shortage make it affordable
Maybe they should just not furlough their current pilots just because they don’t want to be forced to get injections.
This isn’t a “new” approach. Airlines outside the US have their academies established long ago.
How long is it from Rookie to United?
Maybe if it wasn't so expensive and somehow I can fit it in with my job so I can live. I would pursue my childhood dream of flying a Boeing because I do study aviation and fly simulators (like Infinite Flight and VATSIM) on my free time
Good concept if they were focused on quality of candidate and not race and gender. I’ll be a little hesitant to fly United in the future. Regional flying is already a little sketchy relative to pilot skill level but this adds a whole new level of concern.
Are you suggesting that pilots or different races and genders can’t fly?
Matt M pay no attention to this idiot.
Just make sure newly minted pilots are in the seat because of merit. Hiring for any other reason is a huge risk.
Maybe they shouldn’t make, aviation school, so expensive and basically rich to enroll.
Passing the medical and keeping a healthy work/life balance is also very difficult. The airlines just want cheap regional pilots. That's it. They need to make life better for young pilots and pilots at the regionals.
With a price tag of 100k.
Would love to become a pilot but I could never afford it.
It is my dream
So they can run all their DEI hires through.
5 years too late but encouraging
Looks like planes will have to be piloted by AI in the near future 🤯…thanks for the opportunity…
#strongertogether💯
I have my private pilot license and would love to fly commercial if an airline would like to help pay for the rest of my training 😁
Are they paying for training?
Lmao, there might be a lot of incidents in the future because of this....
Will united buy their school busses for flight school? will they have air conditioned school busses for their academy?
And I will fulfill it
You wanna hire pilots? Go to the inner-cities like East Harlem, Oakland, East LA & get the Nubian Folk, Hispanic folk, even some Natives. You're putting your eggs in one basket by just hiring from te military. Be more diversified & have more of a variety to choose from. Invest more into the programs. Quit relying on the colleges, get trade & vocational programs going. Come on! Step out the comfort zone for once.
Ya it take only about 10 years to be qualified to fly a big jet, great plan
the point of the academy isn't to get pilots flying 787s and other wide-body aircraft immediately. in fact, it isn't at all. the seniority system of airlines means current and able to fly pilots will fill the spots of the pilots senior to them (for example, wide-body first officers will fill retiring wide-body capt's, narrow-body capt's will likely fill in wide-body f/o's, etc.). yes, this will mean there will be a gap in short-haul first officer roles; that's what the academy will provide. also in general the pipeline from having 0 flight hours to flying for airlines is typically a couple of years, not 10. I don't know about Aviate specifically but I'd imagine it's a similar time frame.
being a captain on a wide-body aircraft, however, does typically take around or just over a decade of experience. but that's okay because as long as this academy and other training programs continue United and other airlines will have a somewhat steady flow of fresh pilots to fill in the retiring gap.
ha! I have a friend in mexico saying that there's pilots as young as 20 years old flying for the airlines.
@@Fearless1247 yeah that's not uncommon. (s)he's likely flying domestic flights. or international flights on small aircraft. that is one thing I personally love about aviation, you don't need up to a decade or two of schooling to finally do what you want to, like a doctor does for example.
@@rajgunjal9021 So if I wanted to fly 747 would this be a program i should look into?
@@JasonHunts2772 if United allows academy graduates to transfer to other airlines, definitely! Otherwise, you'd have to work for United some years, then work for a different airline. United doesn't operate any 747s
But have to pay over 71k for the school. Lol
Let's get it
100K lol
Hmm more like 30-40 k to start with regional then many hours/ years before making your way to main line.. and who knows how they compensate while your in the academy
You are making 50k plus at any of the mainline regionals now first year. It will be 3-4 years for most to go to a major airline. It can take longer, ans can vary on the economy, shortage, etc..
Any excuse for higher prices. Nice.
If I was 12 years younger I would love to do this
I Have applied at united airlines to be a pilot
What a bunch of lies. Nobody gets six figures from the start. All new cadets have to spend some years working at the Regional airlines for low wages and then enter the majors. As a Pilot with years of experience with thousands of hours of commercial international wide body and narrow body airliners, who applied to United Airlines and many other National carriers, I have never heard from any of them. It's not as easy as they make it out to be. I spent 33 years on my Aviation career and currently can't find a good Flying job with my experience. Go figure that out......?
I’ve always been interested in being a pilot. Currently trying to navigate the best path to becoming one. I have the post 9/11 gi bill that would pay for flight training with a traditional 4 year university. What route would be better? This or 4 year with your knowledge of the industry?
The more pilots with licenses - the worse pay benefits will get. This is what the airlines want. A bunch of people competing for a limited amount of slots. Consider switching into trucking.
@@Aaron_R thanks for the comment if you were responding to my response. But being a truck is not the solution for me. I’m 35 and retired basically. I make enough in passive income I don’t have to work. So this isn’t about money for me, it’s about the passion of wanting to fly.
And I am going to study hard and I am going to be at the academy this year
Yeah because all the FAA will take are "Perfect people" and not people with medical issues, and I get it is a safety issue, but come on! It is all about skill and how you control your actions, if you have ADHD but you can control it, I see no problem, now this obviously does not go with certain medical issues, but you should get the point I'm trying to get across..
What's the salary?
@Sergio after 10 years
Can't they borrow sick pilots from Delta Air Lines?
A crisis of their own making, how many regional airlines have been decimated and shuttered, pilots out on the street because their contract was awarded to the new lowest bidder?
This will help a few become pilots who otherwise wouldn’t which is good but it’s not nearly enough to move hundreds of jets in the next few years.
Watch pay for the pilots currently owing $100k+ in student loans, drop to minimum wage. Shortage increased, quality and safety just decreased, good job.
If they have to meet the training standards and number of hours in the air training plus pass a test, what’s the difference between going to a private flight school??
@@heatherfitzgibbon i Know hes just hating! Like the FAA and all their rules and regulation still exist
Gee... If they had this Program when I was 25 and not 55 perhaps I wouldn't have had to put myself through College. Maybe they'll wise up and start identifying High School Kids that are passing classes like Physics and Trigonometry. Seems obvious they're the ones that actually want to make something of their lives. 😐
Reagan National Airport Union Busting Airport
give me starting salary of $200k/yr then I will become a commercial pilot in 2 years
Focusing on race is going to eventually create more tensions and I'm hispanic , I detest identity politics and promoting race divisions by creating these programs.
So promoting anyone for training who is not a white male is not a good thing?
@@heatherfitzgibbon Promoting anything by race is racist....you know.....It's the definition of.
The U.S. HAS to address its inherent discrimination issues otherwise many of the root issues that have a chokehold on America will grow exponentially worse. If you don’t understand why this is read a history book about how America was formed.
@@karenmassey8354 Just like a regular liberal immediately thinks I'm an uneducated hispanic .... you simply reaffirm what I think about leftist liberals....You can do whatever you want in this country why would you need to blame what happened generations ago to what is possible today. I've seen it many time take responsibility of your own life , don' act like a victim and you're on your way to success. One generation is all my family needed to succeed. Even the lady on the video is from Haiti ...... One generation baby!!!
@@zkppy Turn off Fox "News"(real fake news), it's destroying your brain.
5G
You also noticed how the 5G networks near the airports are messing with the plane’s equipment
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲👌👌
this is stupid. Id rather have a competent pilot whos unvaccinated vs someone who could botch a landing oh but at least they were vaccinated
The biggest barrier many airlines will face in the future is that airlines like United & Delta require new hires to take the jab. This is a non negotiable for certain people and airlines are more likely to break than the stubborn pilots who, unlike those airlines, are not bleeding money.
Will they be providing tinfoil hats for conspiracy folks such as yourself?
Woke
TBH, I don’t care about my pilot’s sexual orientation, race, or who he/she/they votes for. Get me to my destination safely, you can do drag and drugs as much as you want after that.
How desperately I want to attend this program! Every cell in my body is literally craving this for myself. I WANT and WILL work for United Airline. They are helping minorities overtake a field that’s predominately white males. Brings tears to my eyes and a smile to my face. All I have ever been seen as is my skin color. For them to praise and celebrate me, my people. I love it and I want to be apart of it.
Races of all kinds and people from every walk of life become pilots all around the world, in hundreds of countries. Not sure what you mean. I have 5 friends that are ATP’s for the major carriers and only 1 of them is white! You’ll want to shake off that victim mentality before you join, because there’s no room for that on the flight deck.
None of thus mess happened under President Trump administration
I hate planes