Destiny 2 Lore - I actually know what the Veil is! | Myelin Games
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- Welcome back guardians, this is the video you have been waiting for… but everyone has already covered… WHAT IS THE VEIL?! I replayed the entire campaign and post campaign to clip every single moment that the VEIL is said in game. It took a long time to put this video together, so if you find this video helpful or enjoyable, a like and a comment will be greatly appreciated. Also, if you just want to know the answer, what the Veil is, just skip to the end, look for the chapters. But to be honest, I did enjoy learning about all the aspects of the Veil that I missed the first time I played lightfall.
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Chapter
0:00 Introduction
0:51 Season of the Seraph
2:17 Savathun hid The Veil
4:29 Why the Witness wants the Veil
8:20 The CloudArk and the Veil
9:21 Vex and the Veil
14:50 Veil paracausal effect on Ghosts
17:17 Strand and the Veil
18:16 THE ANSWER - Ігри
Everyone is asking what is the veil, but nobody ever asks how is the veil.
Or why is the veil.
True, carries a whole hidden city on their back just to be used by the witness, and not one neomuni asks them how their day was, tough work, very admirable
How: light and dark
Where: traveler
When: who the hell knows now
Why: plot armor? (Is this dragon ball z now?)
What: that's the problem
Still don't what the Traveller is.
Fuck the veil. All my ninjas hate the veil.
“and somehow this is all linked to the final shape” that’s the entire lightfall summary right there
Has a lot of "Somehow Palpatine returned" energy.
@@DUKEzors how many times can I like this comment? Fr, what is happening in media these days where shit is explained by saying “somehow”
the final shape is called a tetragrammaton and the witness is the demiurge of God. in other words the god from the old testament.
who we know refer to as yahweh, jesus, christ. remember jesus isnt the son of god. he is the son of light or known to some as the morning star. hence the title lightfall.
you can equate the banishing of lucifer to earth, who was the angel of light, as another subliminal to the name lightfall. just as you could with jesus coming down with the light.
tetragrammaton tho youre welcome
I’ve been saying this ever since we heard the name “The Final Shape” Taniks is The Final Shape
@@Massen. Executives making direction decisions and filtering lore through paid expansions. That’s how you get this. Bungie has always been able to attract some of the best writers.including the guy who originally was in charge of the story and was fucked over, still think his original story would’ve been much much much better.
The veil is one of the things that does something
Or maybe it doesn't.
It truly exists as an object, that does a certain thing that causes another thing
Of all the things in the game, it's one of them.
the veil is such a perfect example of a bungie moment at its core
Fr, it's black heart all over again
@@Loderyod i mean it quite literally is the original version of the black heart XD So it do really be a black heart moment
It’s like one giant Seasonal story. The characters talk repeatedly about the MacGuffin but they never learn or discuss anything about it.
@@Loderyod Well quite ironically, it is 200% true.
A post Reach Bungie
This actually ties the lore together pretty well. Savathun killed Nezerec and took the veil, which made the Witness task the Sol Divisive with creating a duplicate, that ultimately became the Heart of the Black Garden. And while they failed, the heart did have some effect on the Traveler, forcing us to go in and destroy it in D1.
I love retroactive continuity.
You a real one Mr. D Matthews. You are one of the only people I know that actually realize that this ACTUALLY ties a LOT of lore together and it IS NOT just a "retcon".
@@RespiteofChampions I mean, it IS a retcon. not every retcon is bad. pretty much everything in star wars is a retcon
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Nothing was "retconned" though. Nothing about the Black Heart's lore was changed in any way shape or form. We simply attained more knowledge about it than we had previously which still ties in and fits to the knowledge we had about it previously.
@@RespiteofChampionsIt's a damn good thing Bungie literally had zero idea what the Darkness was until probably around Beyond Light.
All that vague story telling and non answers really helped their future story Arc.
The Veil is the penumbra, the part in between the light & the shadow, a gateway from the physical to the metaphysical. I assume that, in addition to powering the Cloud-Ark, The Veil serves a similar function as the Clarity protocol does. That is to say, it somehow negates the human mind's rejection of an artificial form. The Witness je-baited us with Callus to get us (specifically Ghost) close to The Veil so that it could open the portal. We got hella played... or at least, that's what it seems. So in my opinion, we are in the midst of what I like to call "The Traveller's Gambit". I believe that one of the truths that moth mommy revealed to us was that the golf ball is essentially a prediction engine. It's "choices" are merely mathematical decisions based on probability. Therein lies The Traveller's power but also it's weakness. See I think it is trapped by probability & it's efforts to seed the universe with life are an effort to find a species not bound by fate. A species that will, for want of a better phrase, "take a shot". Enter humanity. Something about us is different, something about us affects paracausality & once we were given a direct connection to the power of the Light, we were able to use that power to make our own fate. "Guardians make their own fate", a line from vanilla D1. Seems kinda fitting that it should all come down to that.
This is very well phrased 🙌 I also think the same but I reckon the Witnesses answer to that is to go back to the Garden where they originally played. Remember it was said that the Gardener grew frustrated with the Game, decided to change the rules and "Enter" the game itself.... and the Winnower found the first Knife in response.
I think what Asher showed us is, bear with me, his artistic take on what the connection between the actual game 'Destiny' looks like, which would be the Veil, and what the background Game engine is, which as much as its still part of the computer is actually more a part of our world that directs their entire universe, or the board of the flower game itself, hence why that part looks like realistic white trees. I don't think Asher has the visual capability to truly see our universe so to his best understanding its a bunch of trees and he left the colors blank.
I reckon the Witness has technically 'left' Destiny and is affecting the actual game itself to create the Final Shape, which is Destiny 3.
Or the Witness left to kill the real world players and win forever i dunno you decide
Moth mommy…
That makes sense. Your comment made me ponder on why the Traveler exists at all. Light and Dark are essentially forces in the Universe, surely neither actually needs any physical manifestation? I doubt the Traveler is required to ensure that life is made within the universe, so what you said makes more sense than The Traveler just being some spontaneously made being tasked with bringing life into the Universe.
The Witness, like the Traveler, is part of an equation. A universal equation. I think their relationship somewhat mirrors Neo and Agent Smith in some ways. Smith is singular in it's goal. It's a virus, it only seeks to control and take over the Matrix. Neo is an anomaly within the Matrix, created by the Matrix itself as a defense mechanism. The Witness is, ultimately, not evil or seeking to destroy us, it only ever needed the Traveler to create the "doorway" to wherever it eventually went. Singular in it's goal, it ignores literally everything else only taking action when something or someone attempts to get in it's way. It only sees the universe one way because it's been "programmed" to do so. It only sees death, suffering, entropy. The Traveler is life, hope, and energy. Why it's goal in combining the paracausal forces of "light" and "dark" to create a portal and where that leads is the ultimate question, but it seems The Witness has deviated from it's purpose, or has changed it.
Humanity is no more special in it's ability to make unpredictable choices than the eliksni, and the traveler left the eliksni, so i don't think trying to find an unpredictable species is it's goal
I’m pretty sure the reason the Witness told Calus to destroy the veil was because it wanted Calus and us to fight, which ultimately leads to Calus’s death and our ghost in close proximity to create the link (a being of light, is the link for the artifact of darkness)
The Witness used Calus solely to get us close enough to the Veil so that we kill him and provide a link, 2 birds and 1 stone.
That or the Veil is needed to be able to pursue the Witness. If it is destroyed then he won entirely.
I think it was actually both the reason in the video and this one. He had the radial mast as a means to link without us. And if we won then he had the plan to use our ghost as well. If calus got the radial mast in there, then the plan was to destroy the veil adter the witness went through essentially closing the door behind him.
In the end by sending calus, the witness created a lose lose situation for us because if we kill calus portal opens, if calus kills us, portal opens. Even if we killed calus earlier, we’d still have to fend off a massive horde of cabal.
The veil appears to have both light and dark elements to it (dark top, light roots) so it is likely calus with darkness abilities could just as easily connected with the veil given the chance.
Way to convince me a theory has to be fact. Now I'm always going to assume this is what happened Haha.
Myelin, don't ever hesitate to make a video on a topic that's already been covered by others. You always manage to add something different!
The intro on its own deserves a comment, that's funny AF
Anyone notice how the witness looks like an upside down hour glass. Infinitely pouring up
The Veil is the offspring of the Witness and the Traveler. The Traveler has been on the run, ducking child support. Now, the Witness is here to collect.
ironically their color schemes are reversed
That is one of my theory's too. I think that the veil is a version of the final shape but an imperfect one, possibly formed during the Gardener and winnower's battle at the beginning of the universe. The Witness might want it in order to ensure that they can use it's presence of light to bypass the travellers defenses and maybe use it's darkness to fuse with the traveller.
So many videos on this topic, not one has yet tried spinfoil hat decipherings of all the crazy Neomuna hieroglyphics on the walls lol, I’m shocked. Lol. Anyway, I can’t wait to see the Vanguard’s faces when we allow Imaru to res Savathun and she yells at us for failing on every level without her
Whoever edited this spent sooo much time on it, great job!
I just want to point out that the traveler communes via dreams. I think it did it to the speaker and it actually did to us to be able to find the shard of the traveler. The core thing is that the traveler contacts via dreams which is something that the darkness does, memory, emotions etc
No, darkness deals with the past, light with the chaotic future. Growth and dreams have been pretty firmly put in the light/future camp in the lore right?
@@vyrv6719 the light is the power of creation and universal forces. The Darkness is the power of universal consciousness in all of it's forms, but mainly memory it seems. I don't think it's past vs future because the light can resurrect that which was once dead.
I think the more important aspect of the dreams is the dichotomy between how the Darkness and Light communicate. The Darkness will come right up to your doorstep and tell you exactly what it's thinking right to your face. The Light must never communicate directly and only shows signs and visions, with the hope that whoever receives the message will figure it out.
*checks date...wait a sec it's not 1st of April. What are you cooking Myelin?
The veil seems to be like an extension of the traveler, containing its memories emotions dreams, hence why it is so crucial to the witness’s plan and why the black heart had such a great affect on the traveler
Yeah
crazy theory : the Veil is the incarnation of Gardener/Winnower couple and of their struggle (game flower) in this universe. their fight in the Garden created universes, each one balanced in light and darkness, physical and psychic.., whom frontier is the Veil, which would be both the "DNA" of our universe and the final destination of all its content
I never thought about it until I saw it again but dosen't anyone else think it's strange how our Ghost takes the position/perspective of the Witness in that cutscene when it gets 'taken over' and Calus appears with all the glass cracks as if they are one in the same
I think the Witness was playing us in that moment. It was testing that it could take over Ghost while setting a trap for either us or Calus (or both).
It was all just a play to keep us and Calus out of the way.
@@DUKEzors I actually think it NEEDED our ghost, and everything else was a setup to get us into position. Why did the whiteness say they wanted to destroy it? They didn't, the Whiteness just needed us to go find the veil for it.
@@DUKEzors I'm inclined to believe this since if there was any other kind of connection between the two, Ghost would have shown their next meeting as well when Calus pooped a brick.
Best, most u understandablevideo I’ve seen on the veil. Worth watching, well done
*”Oh thank the Traveler…”*
-Bungie
It’s very interesting that Nezarec refers to The Veil as “the sapid secret of its [The Witness] first victims.” So the first species to be eradicated as part of The Final Shape were somehow connected to The Veil in some way. Very interesting, I bet that will be a key component going forward as we learn more throughout the year.
if the Witness has a backstory similar to Rhulk, the first victims are likely to be the Witness' own species.
Yeah, super interesting. I kind of just ignored it for this video because I don't really know what to say about it
@@gackolpz One of Savathun’s “this is the truth” lines from the Altar says the Witness’s species was once chosen by the light but they became insatiable for knowledge. Your hypothesis tracks.
@@gackolpz What do you bet that the witness species is just future or past humanity. Doesn't it seem obvious that the Witness is human. He literally looks human
My guess is the Veil was created by a species or group of species that wielded the Darkness, possibly a group like the Ecumene. Or, crazy idea here, the first victim was the Winnower. Could the Witness be taking revenge on both sides, light and dark, thus ending the "game" permanently?
C’mon Myelin, April Fools Day is over.
It’s like they got JJ Abrams to write the storyline. It’s a perfect example of one of his mystery boxes that he never wants to open himself
Love the Emote Guardian montage. I feel like it fully emerses what you're communicating to us and it works.
It's also incredible material right from the game the lore comes from.
Excellent call on that format.
The implication of "The veil" is pretty clear, though. It is the veil between the Traveler's light/life and the Witness' darkness/death. The membrane that keeps them apart. Like a glass window keeping the cold out from your home in the winter. I don't think it is a conscious entity like the Traveler and the Witness, but I believe us seeing the scene between the Witness and Calus is the veil's doing.
My interpretation was that the witness knew it was talking through the ghost so it said "destroy the veil" so that we didnt know its plan, but later when its only talking to calus it says "create the link". i think its true plan was always to use ghost to create the link and was just using calus as bait to get us there or at least that becaume the plan after the radial mast was destroyed. Perhaps the veil could only be activated with a powerful light being/artifact like the mast or ghost which would explain why calus got to the veil first but hadn't created the link and why the witness didnt just go to neptune snd create the link itself.
Thank you for the hard work and effort you put into your videos. You are appreciated.
“ I SEE A THRONE OF LIGHT BUILT UPON A FOUNDATION OF DARKNESS “- Eris Morn. “ WE KNOW PAIN, OUR GOAL IS ITS END “- The Witness.
Thank you for the video and the explanation. Sir!! you are brilliant!!! I know this must have been a ton of work to put together. You have my gratitude!
Saw the thumbnail..got hyped. Let's fucking go Myelin! Get this lore!
Having seen the mushroom theory, byfs, and now yours I’m VERY interested in the connection to the ghosts and the veil.
Didn’t the ghost have a pocket dimension they refer to as our backpack? Access to that place could be related.
nah, it looks much more like an Eye. Mushroom tendrils grow everywhere, while Veil Tendrils grow in a circle, and retract.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I think it looks more like an hour glass than a mushroom or an eye.
When Ghost says "I live in your backpack", he means the physical pack on your guardian's back.
@@SmokeyLaBear what about when you wear armor with no backpack?
@@jakespacepiratee3740, Ghost stashes himself in one of your pockets, or maybe in a boot.
Your mix is sick. The destiny background music behind the narration had me taking out a headphone to make sure it was just tucked way in the back on the mix and not on my tv or something.
Thats good sound design.
Great video myelin, thanks for taking the time to make this one, I appreciate that you've presented it categorically to see where you pulled the info from.
Easily the best video on UA-cam discussing the veil. Thank you for putting it out even though it's already been covered by other people. Yours is better every time
Good on you! You and your team is always so freaking thorough.
About the linking/destroying the veil story conundrum, the witness tells Calus to link the radial mast , and obviously it must be linked to the veil, and see the veil destroyed. So the veil must be linked and THEN the veil must be destroyed.
Hello good morning Myelin another well researched in depth exhaustive deep dive into the concept of the Veil it really gets confusing but thanks to you and Byf i understand some of it ....I ain't the brightest so..big hugs
Loved it. You're the best. Keep up the fantastic work.
Cheers mate for always exceptional content 😊
thank you as always. Very helpful and enjoyable to link it all together
Thank you for all the hard work and this documentation about the veil !
Awesome work Myelin, as always :)
i like to think that every major Darkness Foe we take down is cleansed and resurected into a seprate dimension by the traveler. the Withness in the end will face Guardians Crota Riven Oryx Rhulk Calus and everyone else. Withness knows of this Place exists and Tries to find it inside the Traveler.
This is the best video about the veil I've seen.. it's also the only video about the veil I've seen
Another great video, thanks Myelin.
Love your content Myelin. Many thanks
Loved the editing! Awesome video Matt! 👏
The thumbnail- WTF IS THE VEIL - I read that in Myelin’s screaming voice like when he was looking for Billie on cam that one time and she wasn’t on any. 😂
I feel like the Egregore fungus is related to Strand given Calus's explanation of it. Maybe it's a more corrupted version but it also creates the same type of connections that Strand does, though more of a joining than extant primordial connections, like monkey paw's version of Strand.
@MyelinGames The edits on these are getting pretty slick! Well done.
Best video going into the Veil yet.
Great work as usual man - you are appreciated
How very Veil of the Veil that even after getting an answer to 'what is the Veil' we still don't know what the Veil is.
Well done!
I think there so much more for us to discover.
Good recap. My brain is not at its best, most calm as a cutscene begins. Still racing 😜
So did Savathun use the Veil to steal or alter the memory of the Witness? Did she make the Witness believe that he had already won or destroyed the Traveller thereby encouraging him to retreat back out to the edge of the galaxy (not unlike the Reapers)? Forgetting what he was originally doing? The burst of light that was released when the Traveller destroyed Ghaul popped the bubble of the illusion and reminded the Witness that it was busy with something. She killed Nezerac and took the Veil to ensure that the Witness wasn't reminded and encouraged the Vex to build the Black Heart in order to keep the Traveller "indisposed". The Witness needed the Veil to regain his memories and pick up where he left off....
that's a good theory, but how would she do that without the whiteness stopping her?
So from what’s stated in the video, and it does make sense, rather then alter the witnesses memory(probably impossible) she altered her own! To scramble her mind in some way maybe? Ultimately keeping this secret for a long time, I think was worthy to wield the light because that sacrifice that was made, making Savathun a guardian completely mostly wiped it from her brain
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong he forgot to stop her?
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong She tricked him somehow of course. The Veil is paracausal and the Witness is not invincible, he is a physical being just like us and paracausal in nature, just like us. If your memory of being tricked has been removed or altered you wouldn't know you had been tricked.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong she is the god of secrets and deception. The very act of the Witness trying to unveil her plans and acts and why she was doing them increases her power and makes her able to deceive easier. It's a self-feeding cycle and the fact that her powers come directly from the dark, she became even stronger against the Witness.
Awesome video. Thanks Myelin
So the Veil seems very much like the irl concept of the Akashic Record. In a lot of spiritual circles, the Akashic Record is a "library" that holds all knowledge in the universe. Everything that exists, past, present, and future is recorded there. Every thought, emotion, event, or circumstance is logged and if someone gains access to that knowledge they can become transcendent. For example, in the Book of Enoch, in front of the throne of God is a great stone tablet(or something?) that stretches across Heaven and has everything about the universe transcribed on it. The specifics of Enoch's ascension into an angel aren't due exclusively to reading the "Akashic Record" in this circumstance, but it's the first example of that concept that came to mind.
Strand and Stasis being tied to thought, memory, and information has a lot of interesting connections to physics. Very interesting.
Loved it great video! Just facts , really good :)
The veil's image is that of a mushroom with the cup inverted and the colours and shapes are amongst those reported by people who consume psilocybin. This combined with all of the actual fungus from last season gives a strong clue about what might have at least in part, inspired the nature of the veil.
Edit: by "colours and shapes" I mean in the veil "portal" that the witnesses made in the traveller and the portal underneath the mushroom shaped facility on Neomuna.
nah, it looks much more like an Eye. Mushroom tendrils grow everywhere, while Veil Tendrils grow in a circle, and retract.
And those colors are the same red kaleidoscope light that was shown when Sundance was killed by a weapon of sorrow. His white light exploded outward, turned to a red kaleidoscope, and then collapsed like a star into nothing.
myelin games i don’t know if you noticed but in the red war campaign when we have our vision we see the veil connected to something
Good stuff as always, thanks bud
Thank you for making this video :)
Love the edits docta
thanks for making your lore videos constantly aVeilable :)
Def the best video on this. Only thing missing is the fungus/egregore connection. So strand is pretty much mushroom powers.
If you read the Unveiling lore book, there are some explanations about the final shape, also I just remembered what the witness said at the end of Witch queen when he mentioned about the traveler having no more pieces left, meaning this is a game for keeps. I think the witness is the Widower and the gardener is the traveler. In the Breakneck mission, there are markings about the traveler and the witness.
Winnower*
Pretty sure the winnower and witness are distinct.
Since the winnower is specifically implied to be the darkness, and they describe the witness as the entity that gives the darkness a wicked shape.
Listening to Rasputin's "Goodbye" message again I cannot help but be angry a well-written and well-spoken Destiny character was removed from the game. I secretly hope Ana made a copy and will eventually get him into an Exo body, but that is just copium.
I'm just mad they brought him back just for that. They brought back Rasputin and Amanda just for people to get to know them a little bit so they could have easy emotional moments.
All it did for me was make me mad at how lazy it was. Rasputin didn't even have a point coming back at all, he was never going to be able to actually help us against Xivu Arath, the WAR god who is *billions* of years old. He should have made his last stand against the fleet in Arrivals and died gracefully there rather than leave him as a dangling thread to use when they need a filler season.
The season didn't even tie into this seasons story, we got bits and pieces of lore that hinted at Neptune via the dungeon but the season itself? Nothing. It's the worst tie in season to date.
The veil is biggest Mcguffin of all time, that Bungo created for us the guardians to chase around, just like a dog chasing its tail and after a some miracle that we mere moral will never understand, we obtain Strand, a subclass that we need a rocky montage to learn how to use it and 75 percent of the campaign to fully use it and let's not forget that it is also to squeezed 50 bucks out of everyone ( of course, if you didn't preorder and brought the 100 dollar Super dupper Mcguffin package that comes with all the seasonal content). And when it comes to the lore, well... Uhh... The veil is super powerful, over 9000 paracasual energy that everyone even their grandma knows how super important it is, how to use it, how big it is, how connected it is to all the baddies and also it's link to the traveler.
Great video as always.
Pretty cool editing for the intro section of the video! Props to the editor 👍
Very nice editing on the opening/intro btw, very snazzy!
Late, as it has become usual in your channel, but good. Very good. Thanks!
You sir are a cornerstone in this community. Love you brotha
If I knew that tweet before the campaign would’ve been so much more enjoyable to play!
And if the Veil “stores” the universe, then perhaps the Witness traveled in time when entering the portal. Maybe it wants to “correct” the first Collapse so none of this would need to happen to begin with.
You are always worth the wait 😀
Amazing video as always! And while you are in vacation too?? Absolute legend, Matt!!
I was doing a Garden of Salvation yesterday and I saw something familiar.
Around the last boss chest, there's roots circling the chest, reminding me of the veil.
Always thought it was something to see ‘beyond the veil’. Almost fits with how strand works and we see the threads.
finally a lore youtuber plays the osiris pond cutscene. I knew that had something to do with the veil
I think this paints out the original plot of Witch Queen: Savathun, having hidden the Veil in her Throne World, sought to become Lightborn and free from her worm, escape would make her a god. So does and needs a method to bring herself back. Cue the Veil and it's window into the memory of everything, the ultimate textbook. Savathun leads herself to recover her objective thanks to our inadvertent help from tinkering with Deepsight *cough* i mean Strand. She reaches the Veil and regains her full memory like she did to Crow and sets out to steal the Traveler. We, having become adept at Strand cut the threads she's sown over a very long time and kill her. This foils her plan and then the Witness rolls up and cuts a triangle into* the Traveler and goes in*. Cue original Lightfall, now Final Shape.
I'm pretty sure The Witch Queen's plot was pretty intact and unbutchered by Bungie's realization that they wouldn't be able to keep up a yearly release schedule for expansions without buying some time with a minimal effort filler DLC. The only element that got taken from Witch Queen was Strand, for whatever reason - being either undercooked and needing more dev time or Bungie's new philosophy on never overpromising on products and being better to underdeliver. So they needed to make a simple, easy story that would take minimal effort and time as possible to package into a DLC while they still worked on the actual, final DLC too. Hence the plot where they came up with a macguffin that is super important but nobody tells you what or why it's important and made the rest of the campaign pretty much a training montage for Strand, which was originally supposed to be in Witch Queen as we know. The Veil may have some role in the Final Shape more than was explained in Lightfall, but I doubt Witch Queen would have involved it at all. After all, Savathun stole the Veil from the Witness and Nezerac supposedly, and having it stashed in her Throne World where Rhulk could see it would reveal her treachery to him and the Witness before she decided to change to the Light.
@@joshuavidrine889 i mean he plot line was relatively the same getting from point A - meeting savathicc to point B - killing savathicc... but lmao it was already confirmed that it was *IN FACT* 'butchered'/reconsolidated to exclude strand and the plot relevant info regarding the darkness/witness and the traveler/veil.
Savathun's whole throne word is tailor made for strand and already tackles the time travel/memory snapshot stuff.
Witch queen was missing something and we all knew it, but Light 3.0 made us all forget, look back at the reveal for WQ, at the end of the trailer when the Hive Risen run at us in their supers us for SOME reason the next shot (and remember bungie cinematography is legendary) , they pan to a run way shot!! why a run way shot?! why would they focus on the ground infront of them instead of the guardians they are running towards?
the Answer: Our Gurdians are meant to Pop their Strand Supers right there for the big bombshell reveal that seals the deal on destiny hype. Hive guardians and Strand Guardians would made this the new Taken King but they decided it's best to not Over Deliver and just drip feed us the content to another 'expansion'
Neomuna is just a Polished up Titan with sparrows
@@joshuavidrine889 I would wanna believe Savathun would have been good enough at hiding it from Rhulk as well, its not like he had omnipotent vision of the place.
Good stuff I appreciate all the time and research.
"The Final Shape" will be Guardians wielding the third Darkness subclass. Perfect harmony between tangible and intangible.
Very good synthesis of what information we have available. Hope you're enjoying your holiday, Matty o7
Thanks Matt. This is a great video to have everything from the current lore inside and outside of the DLC for what we know so far. Wonder if you will be updating this video or releasing a new one when we know more. Since Bungie as confirmed they will be releasing new information next season (S21)
This is the best veil video I've seen yet.. thank you..
Good stuff as always
i knew i would like lightfall more after a video like this
We love a Myelin video. Doesn't matter when we get it, so long as we get it
I understood that the VexNet and the CloudArk are built on the same technology, so I think that would mean there could be some other type of paracausal entity under Vex control. The goal of the Vex is to assimilate worlds, so Neptune is a prime target to attack. It's never really been explained about how the VexNet exists.
Maybe CloudArk turns into VexNet in the future.
I think the other way we see strand being related to memory is the the post-campaign for the winterbite exotic. We end up fixing all of the cloudstrider memorials with strand. Part of the quests was doing things to "link" ourselves to the actions and memories of the specific cloud striders
That veil montage was chefs kiss.
This is some great information on the veil🙏
Amazing video!!!
Cool stuff did not remember we heard about the veil before lightfall
Shoutout to you and the other lore masters
i think the 'primordial light and dark' line about the veils link was rereferring to the ghost and the witness being connected and the veil is just what links the primordial light and dark together, not the veil being the actual primordial darkness itself otherwise wouldnt the link be created as soon as ghost arrives at the veil and we're right above it?
Saved the best for last :) Thanks Myelin
The Vail us the holds the blueprint and the witness is trying to use that traveler to make it real in our reality