An actual uninstall and Install with start to finish steps! Seen a lot of vids where it’s remove this bolt then cut to next segment “okay guys now the car is completely apart” glad to see thorough step by steps much appreciated!
@@joshwalling4633 that’s to be expected though, so glad I came across this channel, building my 2017 gli and it’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this and you definitely saved me a head ache and a few hours figuring out what screws to take out and not to take out so for that thank you.
@@taintmeat970 I ended up breaking a a small plastic piece off but it took a good 15-20 min of me just trying to loosen it up and it’s eventually popped off
Sorry I just saw this. Is this the hose that has the clip you are supposed to squeeze? It’s SUPER difficult to get off, but you need to squeeze the connector portion as you push towards the pipe (to release the clip) then pull away while continuing to squeeze. It isn’t easy, but it is also easy to break.
There was a thin hose on the original stock that was positioned to the left side of the air filter casing. The other end of it connects somewhere to the engine. I've watched several videos of different types of air intake install they either mention to take it out or it is never mentioned but at the end result it has been detached from the old air filter casing. My question is that no one ever mentioned what happens to that hose. Is it just left alone unattached or does it need to be plugged? Just not sure what to do with it. My 2016 VW Jetta GLI 2.0L does not come with an SAI inlet and I thought that thin hose had something to do with it but it wasn't the case.
I'm in the same boat, just ordered an Intake and I'm not too sure what to do with that little hose. I'm sure it's some sort of breather, although I don't want to just leave it dangling in the engine bay. I guess just zip tie it somewhere? Did you manage to find a solution mate?
Thanks for the feedback. Buy a whole set of torx bits. All of them. They will serve you well in the future. T15, T25 are both very common, with T25 probably being the most common. Either way, you’ll just want a set of them.
The 1 inch breather filter you talk about at the end.. you clip into the small hose that you pull off off of the original filter box? And it just hangs there? Mine seems like it was only really fastened by the connection to the filter box..
Have the same intake (not installed yet) for the same car. And now have the opportunity to get an AWE Touring cat back exhaust for good price. Do you think these parts will work well together on a stock no tune car? Thanks Shaun PS Best how to video I've seem. Excellent work.
Hey Josh, great video really helped with the CAI install on my MK6 GLI. Now I have a question, installed this exactly a week ago and now I've got a CEL with a P2004 code- intake manifold cylinder 1 remaining open. Any thoughts on if this is related at all? I think it may be covered under ext. warranty but before I go pay the hour mechanic service fee I'd like to get your opinion. Car runs great boost kicks around 2400 RPM like normal in 3rd and 4th, I notice a subtle engine strain when downshifting to second but the power is still 100% there.
Intake manifolds have an internal flap, from what I know this is a common failure point. Totally unrelated to the intake itself. The flap changes the “length” of the intake runners. Most dealers seem to be replacing the entire intake manifold. My suggestion? Get it repaired under warranty and ask if you can add a intake port cleaning service into it (and just pay out of pocket).
Hey I just did this install today, everything went well but I have a question and I wonder if you can shed some insight. When you're removing the T25 that holds down the air box, you mention it doesn't come out all the way. How do I mount the elbow pipes feet to that screw position? Do I just Yank it out?
I noticed you said the hose in the back for the vent case had to be trimmed as well .but since y’all didn’t show it was it just to long or what like does that have to be done for it to fit . I just added this but don’t want any issues I thought everything just connects to stock without modification
All I know is that it had something to do with the old air intake connecting directly into the air filter box because it was one of the first hoses that needed to come off.
Did you do anything special to remove the PCV Hose from the intake pipe? I can not pull that hose off at all lol. It seems like you pulled it off so easily.
@@zanem499 hey, I can’t remember exactly tbh. But from what I remember what Josh said is correct regarding squeezing collar. I had a really tough time getting that thing removed. But I had to get some pliers and squeeze the collar first and pulled off the hose at the same time.
I made a mistake and did not connect the vacuum line that goes from the bottom to the Intake Solenoid, only took me 2 days to realize though. There any chance I messed something up or should I be alright? No engine lights or anything. 2.0T.
I have the “breather tube” on my mk6 gti. didn’t completely understand what you guys said in the video, is it possible just for me to leave the tube hanging or is there something additional for me to do
It didn’t come with our kit, which is a PITA, but it’s an SAI pump adapter and filter you buy from CTS. I think a bunch of people have asked this question so the link might be in here somewhere.
@@joshwalling4633 Thanks for the reply. I bought one at a local store. The PCV line locks just like the factory one does. I thought you said an adapter was needed. Maybe is for different models.
We could be talking about different things. The PCV line just connects to the intake. The SAI pump had a line that used to connect to the old filter box, but now has nothing to connect to so you put a little filter on the end. An adapter is needed, but you only need the adapter and filter if you have an SAI pump in your car
Yeah. I was talking about 6:36s. Maybe I misunderstood the instruction, It perfectly locked in place that’s why I asked originally. But I also had to buy the breather for the sai lol.
Oh I just watched that part again, yeah our kit came with a little adapter for connecting the OEM PCV line to the intake tube. However, you have have a slightly different engine model or whatever. Or if your kit didn’t come with it then I’d hit up CTS.
The heat shield that I have on it is a smaller one and doesn’t have a hole for the SAI breather adapter to go in ? Does the breather filter just go into the SAI hose ?
Hey it has been a very long time since I’ve done this. Maybe someone else can chime in. The SAI hose doesn’t get connected to anything other than the new filter and filter adapter.
I personally would not dyno a car to find out if I got 5 HP or not. If you want great sound, install an intake, if you’re looking for more power then get a tune. My thoughts on it at least.
There is no blow off valve on these cars. There are diverter valves. I’m not sure about this particular car, but on my other VW’s they are integrated into the turbo/manifold - sometimes more visible from underneath the car.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you! Where is the diverter valve in this case? I bough this torque solution blow off valve adapter. I was just wondering where it should be installed
It should be installed between the diverter valve and the housing it’s bolted to. I feel like there should’ve been installation instructions. If not, check the Torque Solution website to see if they have them available for download.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you. But that's is my question where is the diverter valve located?? Is it the one on the back driver side of the engine just below the intake pipe?
Hey, you mentioned what sounded like a "breather filter" at 8:12 and that it didn't come with the CTS kit. Is this something necessary to get as the car didn't originally have one? Or was it just a nice thing to update? Would this be it? www.moddedeuros.com/products/cts-turbo-sai-breather-filter-billet-adapter
Would anyone know why I am missing the hose for that smaller breather filter? It has never been touched before. Do some Jetta versions come without this? Do I need to install the secondary breather filter or am I okay without it? Please help.
Where does that connection at 5:00 go or connect to? I know it connects to the top of the OEM Air Box and I noticed you guys just tucked it away after installing the CTS intake.
You mean the one going to the SAI pump (secondary air injection)? You’ll need to get an adapter and a small breather filter from CTS turbo for the cars with an SAI pump. We didn’t show it because the owner ordered the kit for the wrong engine code / wasn’t aware you had to order this add on. Essentially, a little baby filter goes on the end of it.
I think it will, as long as its the same engine code! Check with a supplier! I know for sure this intake works for CPLA and CPPA engines from 2015-2018 :D
It won’t be an exact match, but the processes of installing an intake aren’t really much different. If you looked at this video and thought “well I think I can handle this,” then you’ll be fine. We’ve installed intakes before, but this was our first time installing an intake on this particular engine - which goes to show how similar intake installs are across most vehicles.
The breather filter is needed if you have an SAI. Intake was decent for the price. I would personally go for a different brand that was a higher quality. Fit and finish could be improved with this one if I’m completely honest.
@@joshwalling4633 I appreciate the response, and ya I don’t doubt that, but it’s gotta be better than stock 1, and I’m mainly just buying it for the noise lol, I don’t have a project car or a fast car, just a 14 passat just trying to give it a little ✨spice✨
Hey quick question guys anyone can answer this I’d be extremely grateful I have a P0045 error code What the hell am I looking for I have not been able to find anything resembles a Solenoid coming off my turbo turbo I’ll have a Passat 14 1.8
No, but they are childish and annoying as all heck. The BOV adapters for these cars are a party trick, equally as terrible as burble/crackle/pops tunes.
Some cars have a secondary air pump and some don’t. For those that do, you need a breather filter adapter and a breather filter (available from CTS, somewhere on their website).
Probably ECS tuning or FCP euro. If not, just remove it and take it down to your local dealer, they should have one and the part number is probably on the part itself.
Josh Walling appreciate the response, I ended up buying it from ECS. Just bought a CTS turbo high flow downpipe and had to replace the intake manifold. I’m hoping to do stage 2 this summer
I’m not clear on what you are asking me. I think you should do more research into your car’s intake system and the aftermarket ones you are looking at.
It happens on all modern cars. The PCV is vented into the intake and oil vapors get into the intake components like intercooler, turbo, etc. to then be combusted. If you get a catch can, you can prevent it from being as bad. But in the video, nothing was wrong with the car.
The small filter will connect to the SAI hose that was previously connected to the OEM air box. The new intake system doesn’t have a connection point for the SAI hose, so a small breather filter is attached to the end of that hose.
Hey guys, I just installed the intake on my 15’ jetta 1.8t and the check engine light came on, I checked everything and everything is tighten up... I noticed the rpms kinda bouncing when idle the engine... any idea???
Josh Walling I figured it out.. I think, I connected the vacuum line over the plastic cover lol so it was completely blocked... I fixed it and now it runs as smooth as before.
Hey quick question, I’m new to the VW world, do you need a tune after installing the intake? Coming from a Subaru owner, knowing I have to do a tune after for almost everything on Subies?
Nope, no tune needed for just an intake. Fun and simple mod. If you upgrade your downpipe, you will need a “stage 2” tune, or at least that is what most VW tuners call it.
Hi. I have the same engine and the intake after the turbo have oil. That's in the maf end make it the engine light on. Is it normal to have aoil in the intake after the turbo?
Great question. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that there is oil in the charge pipes AFTER the turbo. Some oil is normal because modern engines vent the crank case into the intake for emissions purposes, which can include oil vapor (see the PCV valve from the valve cover to the intake pipe). A LOT of oil is not normal. Either way, get it checked out if you aren’t comfortable with it.
Grandioso video. Perdona el idioma. Tenemos un mk6 gli y me encanto la instalación de intake. Donde puedo comprarlo?. Tienen la página o el lugar para comprarlo?. 🙏
Josh Walling traductiong: Great video. Forgive the language. We have a mk6 gli and I loved the intake facility. Where can I buy it?. Do you have the page or the place to buy it? 🙏
Thanks for the translation! It’s a CTS Turbo intake, so you can get it directly through them at CTSturbo.com, but it’s also available at UroTuning, ECS Tuning, and probably a few others as well. Hopefully that helps!
hello josh. i have the same car and engine. i want to install a cold air intake and im short on cash so i went with a generic one where i plan to replace only the airbox area and keep the rest stock. i just want to make sure that it will work. if i fit it correctly, will not having the sai inlet negatively impact the car? what does it even do? also i noticed on my car (im sure its on yours as well but im not sure if i saw it nor did you mention removing it) there is a super small rubber tube coming off of the left side of the air box and going into the engine if i remember correctly. what is it? what if i dont have one? super long comment but your help would b e appreciated. thank you.
Some cars don’t even have the SAI, there is also a plastic drain tube on the air box to drain water out. If you can’t afford an intake system, then I highly recommend getting a performance drop-in panel filter and keeping the stock air box. You can actually delete the SAI if you don’t have emissions testing, if that was something you want to do. The SAI is a small air pump that helps with reducing emissions on cold starts (I think, not 100%)
Take your car into the dealership. Could be an exhaust leak, but could also be an actual gas leak. I wouldn’t mess around... also.... increase your insurance coverage and reduce your deductibles lol.
I had a similar issue on my 2016 Volkswagen Jetta GLI 2.0T, only I smelled gas when walking up to the car a random moments. Turned out to be a gas leak. Common issue I was told, thankfully it was still covered.
@@joshwalling4633 Understood .....And some of the spacers do have a good bov sound to them I love turbo noises and that's the only reason I would get one
@@tdiworld9128 I did this video 3 years ago on an intake I’ve never installed before on an engine I’ve never worked on before. This video is so detailed, and yet I get many questions from people before they’ve actually attempted the install themselves. Trust me when I say, you can figure this one out when you go to install it on the car. This video is far too old for me to recall every little step, and if it isn’t shown in the video, it is likely a very obvious step.
Any dealer will find reasons not to pay warranty , if you change the intake and let's say the engine goes, they could blame it from the filter failing etc
1) Intakes such as this help the turbo spool faster, which makes a significant difference in acceleration. You are not necessarily adding power (+5-15hp depending on environment) but you’re bringing the power you already have down into your lower RPM’s. So installing a cold air intake on a car, especially one that has a turbo, will benefit greatly from it regardless of an ECU tune. 2) An intake will not directly void your warranty, however, if something were to go wrong with your motor/drivetrain, the dealership/company must legally prove that your modification was the cause of the failure. Added note: ECU tunes like APR, Unitronic, etc. do void your warranty because you are adjusting the engine to go beyond what the manufacturer, in this case VW, originally intended it to.
@joshwalling this is an article passed around ford, but it’s still get across the main points and topics in this discussion and pretty much covers what any manufacturer/dealer could or would do. On some forums, people mention “mod-friendly” VW dealers but idk. A solid discussion about VW tunes. APR has a APR Plus tune, which for about $900 it giver you a solid boost of Hp I believe it’s around 220 for the 1.8t and about 290 for the 2.0t. This is the lowest performance tune they offer. But it comes with a Powertrain warranty from APR. So, the real question is...why would APR make a lower tier tune, and feel the need to give you a power train warranty with it, if VW wouldn’t void your warranty in the first place? It doesn’t make sense. Also, APR does not offer a power train warranty on Stage 1-3 tunes
All I’m saying is, for a simple tune and bolt ons like intake and exhaust, I’ve never seen a dealer refuse maintenance or refuse to cover something from the warranty. I’ve been over it in my previous videos, but my GLI had an APR K04 kit and a DSG tune from UM along with all the bolt ons and the car has been to dealerships in CA, HI, and WI. Never been turned down for warranty work.
Gonna be honest, these are my least favorite comments. You’ll need tools to work on your car, a whole set. If you have a VW you’ll want a full set of torx bits and triple squares. You do that, and you’ll be able to tackle any job pretty much. Open the engine bay, take a look around and familiarize yourself with what you’ll need, and you’ll also get more familiar with the intake layout/structures. You aren’t the first person who’s asked about tools, this is just my personal view on how to approach working on your car. You don’t need to be told that you’ll need a T15 bit, a T25 bit, a 13mm wrench… etc. etc. That, IMO, is a bridge too far in terms of hand-holding.
for all fitment related questions, please turn to CTS Turbo’s website. This specific intake likely won’t fit, but I’m positive they make a similar one for yours. You do not need a tune to run an aftermarket intake.
Does this intake add horsepower from stock or just better airflow / efficiency compared to stock? Thanks in advance I want to do some minor mods to my 1.8T Passat appreciate your vids! Lights on point! Lol Peace
Right on, thanks for the reply! Yes it sounds way better for sure. Do you recommend a tune for the 1.8? I know it's not meant to be a speed demon for sure, but it is such a nice engine, and car what would you go with if you had to pick?
Jake Smith Roger that! Thanks for the info! By the way what are the beverages in hand in this vid? 😋😁 Keep making videos you guys are great and funny together. Good times and cheers!
Joshua Walling Some cars produce different hp stock.Sometimes an off shelf tune will yield only 15 hp .Most tunes run the same price anyways.Off shelf or not. In my case ,my stock 1.8 jetta put down 180/209 .Thats with 80k miles and no carbon cleaning.An off shelf tune would be a waste. He needs a baseline dyno to see exactly what his car puts down.
APR stage 1 tune for the 1:8 turbo gen 3 Passat will get you a 40hp/40-45ft lbs of torque bump. Add in some of the less restrictive turbo inlet and discharge pipes and you can be at 220-230hp safely from a car that came stock at 170hp. Much more fun grocery getter....lol
No, just make the turbo noises louder. Sometimes you can hear the diverter valve more, but if you want your car to sound like it has a BOV you need to get the diverter valve adapter things. Personally, I think they are lame and annoying.
I saw your other comment. I honestly can’t remember. That looks to be a vacuum line and it probably goes on the new intake tube somewhere. Do the instructions not cover that at all? I don’t recall having any issues when installing this, and unfortunately, it was a one-off install on a car that isn’t actually mine so I’m not able to go out and check. If one of you has figured this out (the original comment is two months old), could you please chime in? Else, I’m afraid you’ll have to contact CTS.
Well that’s easy, go to their website and ensure it’s listed as one that fits. When you actually go to install the intake I’m sure this will all make sense. You don’t even really need a video, intake installs are very straightforward. This video is merely a “confidence builder.”
What happens to the small vacuum hose plugged into the left side of the old air box? After install mine is just dangling somewhere. What’s it for and is it important/ is there anything I should do with it?
Hey i have the same problem, i never got the brass little piece its supposed to come with, i just tryed to stretch the hoes and zip tie it to the hole under the metal piece between the silicon connector and pod filter. Honestly idk if it does anything, ive had it unconnected for a while on accident and idk what it does
Hes talking about the vacuum hoes around 6:57 in the video I had to stretch mine to fit, but it still falls off, and now its torn (in case you know the replacement part number)
Some VW’s do that when you are in park hahaha, it’s not a two step - they are just trying to prevent you from revving in park. My MkV GLI did the same thing.
Not really. Anyone who tells you different is lying. Intakes are for making nice noises. Gains are always negligible for intakes alone. Could drop in a performance panel filter in your OEM air box and get a similar “performance” result. But your “butt dyno” can’t feel 1-5 HP difference.
I stand by what I said. I said “Gains are always negligible for intakes alone.” A downpipe and an associated tune will net a huge gain, but, you could leave that very same OEM intake in there and put in a nice panel filter and get the same result. There is loads of research and A-B dyno testing out there for installing an intake and testing for power gains. The story is always the same.
1) People (including myself) love the look of the intake and the added noise that comes with it; 2) it’s a mod that will most certainly make them more money than anything else they develop and must differentiate themselves by making it *that much better* than the competition (e.g., our intake makes 1 HP more than X companies intake, or ours is carbon fiber, blah blah blah); 3) ever notice how many of today’s modern cold air intakes reutilize the factory air inlet location? 4) using your own logic, and perhaps most importantly, engineers of the OEM components wouldn’t spend time and money making an inefficiently flowing intake. Again, look at some A-B (back to back) tests of stock vs. cold air intake (WITHOUT adding a tune, because that isn’t the argument here). Time and time again the intake shows to have *negligible* power improvements (when you are talking about a 200 HP car, a 1% change in power would be characterized as negligible). I’ve also hidden you from public view on the channel. Not because you are arguing with me, because that’s fine, but you are being toxic to others and not harvesting an environment of encouragement. What this means is that you can still comment and watch the videos on the channel, but only I can see your comments. We all start somewhere, the last thing the car community needs is someone publicly shaming them for asking questions.
just curiosity.. i know with the aftermarket intake the sound increases. but, has anyone tried leaving the stock rear pipe and just replacing the air box with the CTS filter?. i really dont see much of a difference between the stock n the aftermarket pipes. Any thoughts?
I didn’t really measure them at the time, and it’s been a while, but I’d say it probably just looks better. I’ve always said intakes are for sound and looks. Just a fun and easy mod to do.
An actual uninstall and Install with start to finish steps! Seen a lot of vids where it’s remove this bolt then cut to next segment “okay guys now the car is completely apart” glad to see thorough step by steps much appreciated!
Thanks man, look through the comments though. I still get a ton of questions about very minor things I didn’t show. So I appreciate this!
@@joshwalling4633 that’s to be expected though, so glad I came across this channel, building my 2017 gli and it’s the first time I’ve ever done anything like this and you definitely saved me a head ache and a few hours figuring out what screws to take out and not to take out so for that thank you.
I just installed this exact intake in my GLI. I likely couldn’t have done it without this video. Thanks!
That’s awesome!!!! That’s why I love making these videos
Looks legit, gotta say that i think all of your editing an camera work are usually very good, but lighting is def on point now!
Installing on my 2017 GLI currently. Definitely a helpful video!
I just installed this on my 2016 Jetta sport and being the only modification to my car, it is so worth it.
I used locking needle nose pliers for the turbo coupler. It freed up one hand. I'm old school.
I need to get me a set of those!
This was the only helpful video on how to get that dam hose unclipped on the main tube on the back. Thank for the tip.
Thank you for confirming my 14 TSI is indeed supposed to sound like that 😂
What if you get just the cts cold air intake with out the box do you still need that breather hose
I’m having a lot of trouble trying to remove the pvc hose from the intake pipe
I’m doing it rn and it’s being a bitch. Any tips?
@@taintmeat970 I ended up breaking a a small plastic piece off but it took a good 15-20 min of me just trying to loosen it up and it’s eventually popped off
Sorry I just saw this. Is this the hose that has the clip you are supposed to squeeze? It’s SUPER difficult to get off, but you need to squeeze the connector portion as you push towards the pipe (to release the clip) then pull away while continuing to squeeze. It isn’t easy, but it is also easy to break.
I have a seat leon mk2 tsi 1.4 but the turbo is at the front not the back of the engine like the Golf. Can i put the CTS?
Please check the CTS turbo website for all fitment related inquiries.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you!
There was a thin hose on the original stock that was positioned to the left side of the air filter casing. The other end of it connects somewhere to the engine. I've watched several videos of different types of air intake install they either mention to take it out or it is never mentioned but at the end result it has been detached from the old air filter casing. My question is that no one ever mentioned what happens to that hose. Is it just left alone unattached or does it need to be plugged? Just not sure what to do with it. My 2016 VW Jetta GLI 2.0L does not come with an SAI inlet and I thought that thin hose had something to do with it but it wasn't the case.
Might just be a water drain, but you said it connects to the engine, so maybe not. Are you sure it connects to the engine?
@@joshwalling4633 it goes to the front of the car
I'm in the same boat, just ordered an Intake and I'm not too sure what to do with that little hose. I'm sure it's some sort of breather, although I don't want to just leave it dangling in the engine bay. I guess just zip tie it somewhere? Did you manage to find a solution mate?
Awesome video, y’all did great and made my install easy good tip on the making the bolts/screws accessible
Glad that the video could help!
Good video. Just need to add the different torx sizes you use to remove the box and other tools needed to put the heat shield together.
Thanks for the feedback. Buy a whole set of torx bits. All of them. They will serve you well in the future. T15, T25 are both very common, with T25 probably being the most common. Either way, you’ll just want a set of them.
@@joshwalling4633 I've already got a whole bunch! Just would rather know the exact ones before starting.... saves time. :)
What’s the small hose going into the air box from the block? What did you do with it?
Btw you can see it on the left of the air box at 9:55
looking for the same thing
I’m sure it will be obvious when you go to install the intake yourself.
@@joshwalling4633 yeah I just bought it, real excited
Awesome!! Best of luck!
What is done with the SAI inlet hose? I want to build a cold air intake for my EA888 and it's the last thing stumping me.
You just put a small breather filter on the end of the hose. You can purchase them from CTS (and other intake manufacturers)
I installed mine. Yes there is a difference in sound. But not close to this, any reasons why?
What is it called at 8:20 ? Is it necessary to?
Should I tune my VW Passat after installing this aftermarket turbo?
I have a jetta sel tsi where do I lactate the turbo on it and and a different question what type of coolant do I use in it?
The 1 inch breather filter you talk about at the end.. you clip into the small hose that you pull off off of the original filter box? And it just hangs there? Mine seems like it was only really fastened by the connection to the filter box..
Yup. It’s just an inlet for the secondary air pump.
@@joshwalling4633 is this necessary mine has nothing covering it now after CTS install
Have the same intake (not installed yet) for the same car. And now have the opportunity to get an AWE Touring cat back exhaust for good price. Do you think these parts will work well together on a stock no tune car?
Thanks
Shaun
PS
Best how to video I've seem. Excellent work.
Correction it's the AWE Track cat back not the touring.
No tune is ever needed for a cat back exhaust (or for a simple cold air intake). Go for it!!!
Hey Josh, great video really helped with the CAI install on my MK6 GLI. Now I have a question, installed this exactly a week ago and now I've got a CEL with a P2004 code- intake manifold cylinder 1 remaining open. Any thoughts on if this is related at all? I think it may be covered under ext. warranty but before I go pay the hour mechanic service fee I'd like to get your opinion. Car runs great boost kicks around 2400 RPM like normal in 3rd and 4th, I notice a subtle engine strain when downshifting to second but the power is still 100% there.
Intake manifolds have an internal flap, from what I know this is a common failure point. Totally unrelated to the intake itself. The flap changes the “length” of the intake runners. Most dealers seem to be replacing the entire intake manifold. My suggestion? Get it repaired under warranty and ask if you can add a intake port cleaning service into it (and just pay out of pocket).
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@@joshwalling4633 Thanks so much for the insight man!
No problem!
Great video. Have the same car. Did you do anymore vids on this car? Best how to I've seen.
Hey I just did this install today, everything went well but I have a question and I wonder if you can shed some insight. When you're removing the T25 that holds down the air box, you mention it doesn't come out all the way. How do I mount the elbow pipes feet to that screw position? Do I just Yank it out?
I just bought a 2014 GLI CPPA MOTOR and I'll like to know if is the gen 3 too
Is a catch can REALLY necessary for the blowback that can get into the turbo?
No. I’ve never ran one.
Video starts @ 2:30
You stated in comes with the intake adapter. What is this part look like? Thanks.
You’ll have to check the CTS website for what I am assuming you are referring to the SAI breather filter/adapter.
I noticed you said the hose in the back for the vent case had to be trimmed as well .but since y’all didn’t show it was it just to long or what like does that have to be done for it to fit . I just added this but don’t want any issues I thought everything just connects to stock without modification
If you fit it up right without trimming than it’s fine. We just massaged the fitment a bit. I don’t remember exactly what we did tbh.
All I know is that it had something to do with the old air intake connecting directly into the air filter box because it was one of the first hoses that needed to come off.
Would this void my warranty on my 1.8 tsi passat.?
In my experience, no.
Did you do anything special to remove the PCV Hose from the intake pipe? I can not pull that hose off at all lol. It seems like you pulled it off so easily.
If I recall correctly, there is a collar you have to squeeze while pulling.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you! Had to get some pliers on it and I managed to get off. Appreciate it!
Awesome!
@@aldorpv how’d u do it
@@zanem499 hey, I can’t remember exactly tbh. But from what I remember what Josh said is correct regarding squeezing collar. I had a really tough time getting that thing removed. But I had to get some pliers and squeeze the collar first and pulled off the hose at the same time.
Show how you guys place a blow off valve on this specific car because I’m struggling with mine
I’d recommend staying with the OEM diverted valve or the GFB DV+ if you really want to modify it.
Josh Walling that’s what I did and it’s great! Def a pain to install though
I made a mistake and did not connect the vacuum line that goes from the bottom to the Intake Solenoid, only took me 2 days to realize though. There any chance I messed something up or should I be alright? No engine lights or anything. 2.0T.
You’re fine.
I have the “breather tube” on my mk6 gti. didn’t completely understand what you guys said in the video, is it possible just for me to leave the tube hanging or is there something additional for me to do
Hey Oliver, there is a breather filter and adapter you can get from CTS to go on the end of that tube.
So the Pvc line need an adapter from the kit? What adapter? Or just a clamp?
It didn’t come with our kit, which is a PITA, but it’s an SAI pump adapter and filter you buy from CTS. I think a bunch of people have asked this question so the link might be in here somewhere.
@@joshwalling4633 Thanks for the reply. I bought one at a local store. The PCV line locks just like the factory one does. I thought you said an adapter was needed. Maybe is for different models.
We could be talking about different things. The PCV line just connects to the intake. The SAI pump had a line that used to connect to the old filter box, but now has nothing to connect to so you put a little filter on the end. An adapter is needed, but you only need the adapter and filter if you have an SAI pump in your car
Yeah. I was talking about 6:36s. Maybe I misunderstood the instruction, It perfectly locked in place that’s why I asked originally. But I also had to buy the breather for the sai lol.
Oh I just watched that part again, yeah our kit came with a little adapter for connecting the OEM PCV line to the intake tube. However, you have have a slightly different engine model or whatever. Or if your kit didn’t come with it then I’d hit up CTS.
where does the mass air flow sensor connect to??
Where do both secondary air pump hoses get connected to ??
The heat shield that I have on it is a smaller one and doesn’t have a hole for the SAI breather adapter to go in ? Does the breather filter just go into the SAI hose ?
Hey it has been a very long time since I’ve done this. Maybe someone else can chime in. The SAI hose doesn’t get connected to anything other than the new filter and filter adapter.
What is the best of cleaning the CTS Intake filter?
Did you leave your maf unplugged or did you reuse the old one?
I definitely did not leave the MAF unplugged. I believe the car in this video uses a MAP sensor, so you may have a different car.
Sounds much better but are there any real performance numbers to support this?
I personally would not dyno a car to find out if I got 5 HP or not. If you want great sound, install an intake, if you’re looking for more power then get a tune. My thoughts on it at least.
@@joshwalling4633 okay so no definitive answer is a 'no' to me.
It’s an intake, you can form your own opinions about whether it is worth it or not, or what you are actually trying to achieve by installing it.
@@joshwalling4633 I'm picking up what you're laying down, but I was just wondering if facts exist on the power claims.
Perhaps CTS publishes some data, but it’s always hard to know what to believe without independent results.
Anyone else ever get a p0303 misfire code? Changed spark plugs and third was a little dirty but still getting same code on and off. Thx
Hey guys, where is the blow off valve in this Jetta? Im trying to find mine and I believe is the one right on the back, below the I take pipe. Is it?
There is no blow off valve on these cars. There are diverter valves. I’m not sure about this particular car, but on my other VW’s they are integrated into the turbo/manifold - sometimes more visible from underneath the car.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you! Where is the diverter valve in this case? I bough this torque solution blow off valve adapter. I was just wondering where it should be installed
It should be installed between the diverter valve and the housing it’s bolted to. I feel like there should’ve been installation instructions. If not, check the Torque Solution website to see if they have them available for download.
@@joshwalling4633 thank you. But that's is my question where is the diverter valve located?? Is it the one on the back driver side of the engine just below the intake pipe?
I don’t have this car, so I’m not sure, but if you get under your car and inspect the turbo area I’m sure you’ll find it.
Hey, you mentioned what sounded like a "breather filter" at 8:12 and that it didn't come with the CTS kit. Is this something necessary to get as the car didn't originally have one? Or was it just a nice thing to update? Would this be it?
www.moddedeuros.com/products/cts-turbo-sai-breather-filter-billet-adapter
You would only need it if your car has an SAI pump. That link you posted looks to be it, but please check with CTS website for fitment related issues.
Just a quick question, is the breathing filter important or can it be left open like in this video.
I think it’s important to keep dirt and contaminants out of the SAI pump. I wouldn’t drive with it open for very long.
@@joshwalling4633 ok awesome. Thanks
Would anyone know why I am missing the hose for that smaller breather filter? It has never been touched before. Do some Jetta versions come without this? Do I need to install the secondary breather filter or am I okay without it? Please help.
Hey I know this is an older comment but in case you never found out, some jettas don't come with it!
@@mil_er Thank you brother! I appreciate you.
@@cudeh2869 no worries dude!
Where does that connection at 5:00 go or connect to? I know it connects to the top of the OEM Air Box and I noticed you guys just tucked it away after installing the CTS intake.
You mean the one going to the SAI pump (secondary air injection)? You’ll need to get an adapter and a small breather filter from CTS turbo for the cars with an SAI pump.
We didn’t show it because the owner ordered the kit for the wrong engine code / wasn’t aware you had to order this add on. Essentially, a little baby filter goes on the end of it.
@@joshwalling4633 Thanks for the reply and info. Great work on the video, the steps will be helpful once my stuff comes in.
Hey, i have a 2018 skoda octavia 1.8tsi with same E888 Gen 3 motor, do you think it will fit on my car?
I think it will, as long as its the same engine code! Check with a supplier! I know for sure this intake works for CPLA and CPPA engines from 2015-2018 :D
Can I follow this same video with a 2014 GLI?
It won’t be an exact match, but the processes of installing an intake aren’t really much different. If you looked at this video and thought “well I think I can handle this,” then you’ll be fine. We’ve installed intakes before, but this was our first time installing an intake on this particular engine - which goes to show how similar intake installs are across most vehicles.
Umm you guys forgot the filter for the secondary air injection
We sure did, it didn’t come in the kit we had unfortunately so we ordered and installed it after the video was complete. Great catch though!
Hello, i have a 2015 jetta SE and i just got the EPC sensor? Can i fix it with my regular mecanic or should take to the dealership?
I think that’s a question for your regular mechanic.
The link for the parts says page not found. Could you update it? Thanks. Great video
Hmmm not sure why it’s broken. Just go through the CTS turbo website directly.
Ik this is an old vid, but how much was it when u bought it at the time? Also would u say getting a breather filter would be good as well?
The breather filter is needed if you have an SAI. Intake was decent for the price. I would personally go for a different brand that was a higher quality. Fit and finish could be improved with this one if I’m completely honest.
@@joshwalling4633 I appreciate the response, and ya I don’t doubt that, but it’s gotta be better than stock 1, and I’m mainly just buying it for the noise lol, I don’t have a project car or a fast car, just a 14 passat just trying to give it a little ✨spice✨
It definitely does the job at increasing the good noises coming from the engine and turbo haha
@@joshwalling4633 well that’s good bc that’s all I’m really wanting ☠️🫠
Hey quick question guys anyone can answer this I’d be extremely grateful I have a P0045 error code What the hell am I looking for I have not been able to find anything resembles a Solenoid coming off my turbo turbo
I’ll have a Passat 14 1.8
Cts also has an outlet pipe, so I’m guessing that’s opposite of the intake? Worth getting that along with this?
Also along with a cts blow off valve kit?
Big negative on the blow off valve kit, and outlet pipe is more for improving flow, you could easily do without it.
@@joshwalling4633 a gotcha. BOV ruin the performance?
No, but they are childish and annoying as all heck. The BOV adapters for these cars are a party trick, equally as terrible as burble/crackle/pops tunes.
could you explain the breather filter a little more. i’m a little confused @8:12
Some cars have a secondary air pump and some don’t. For those that do, you need a breather filter adapter and a breather filter (available from CTS, somewhere on their website).
WoW sounds more powerful 💪
So I accidentally broke the PCV hose when installing this on my 2014 gli gen3. Is there anywhere you know of that sells that specific hose for my car?
Probably ECS tuning or FCP euro. If not, just remove it and take it down to your local dealer, they should have one and the part number is probably on the part itself.
Josh Walling appreciate the response, I ended up buying it from ECS. Just bought a CTS turbo high flow downpipe and had to replace the intake manifold. I’m hoping to do stage 2 this summer
does the stock come with a pressure sensor in the box, do we need that for the install? if so, where does it go?
Huh? You mean the MAP sensor? That is already on your car from factory.
Josh Walling but isn’t there a sensor in the stock box that helps the ecu do its thing?
I’m not clear on what you are asking me. I think you should do more research into your car’s intake system and the aftermarket ones you are looking at.
Yeah that sensor is not there in the tsi facelift is just the box and pipes, so Check engine light shouldn’t rear it’s head after the upgrade ?
Nope, not if it’s installed properly.
Doubt I’ll get a reply but would the 1.4t be roughly the same install as well??
If you understand this install, I’m positive you can tackle it. There will be plenty of overlap.
@@joshwalling4633 okay sweet!! Thank you!
What is the blowback? How bad is it and can you clean it out of your turbo
Not sure what you are asking
Josh Walling when you said this right here is called blowback and all of that goes inside of your turbo.sounded like it wasn’t a good thing
5:50 mark
It happens on all modern cars. The PCV is vented into the intake and oil vapors get into the intake components like intercooler, turbo, etc. to then be combusted.
If you get a catch can, you can prevent it from being as bad. But in the video, nothing was wrong with the car.
Why add a different filter? Does this improve fuel consumption?
No, this in mainly for aesthetic reasons and induction noise in my opinion.
I got a question so that’s more filter were it go???
The small filter will connect to the SAI hose that was previously connected to the OEM air box. The new intake system doesn’t have a connection point for the SAI hose, so a small breather filter is attached to the end of that hose.
@@joshwalling4633 ok so It’s not Connection for 2015 Jetta tsi turbo?
It depends on whether or not your car came with an SAI pump. If not, then no, there won’t be anything to connect the small filter to.
Where is this go connected??? Plastic Air Pump Breathe Vent Hose Connection Hose
I’m sorry, I don’t know how to explain this more than I already have.
Hey guys, I just installed the intake on my 15’ jetta 1.8t and the check engine light came on, I checked everything and everything is tighten up... I noticed the rpms kinda bouncing when idle the engine... any idea???
Sounds like you have a leak somewhere. Check all the vacuum lines and make sure the turbo inlet pipe is on properly. Other than that I have no idea.
Josh Walling I figured it out.. I think, I connected the vacuum line over the plastic cover lol so it was completely blocked... I fixed it and now it runs as smooth as before.
Excellent!
How much is the performance difference?
Hey quick question, I’m new to the VW world, do you need a tune after installing the intake?
Coming from a Subaru owner, knowing I have to do a tune after for almost everything on Subies?
No its when you get into the downpipe
Nope, no tune needed for just an intake. Fun and simple mod. If you upgrade your downpipe, you will need a “stage 2” tune, or at least that is what most VW tuners call it.
Can you tell please was Gen 3 engine on Jetta mk6 2012-2013 years or it was gen 2?
I have no idea honestly
Hi. I have the same engine and the intake after the turbo have oil. That's in the maf end make it the engine light on. Is it normal to have aoil in the intake after the turbo?
Great question. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that there is oil in the charge pipes AFTER the turbo. Some oil is normal because modern engines vent the crank case into the intake for emissions purposes, which can include oil vapor (see the PCV valve from the valve cover to the intake pipe).
A LOT of oil is not normal. Either way, get it checked out if you aren’t comfortable with it.
Grandioso video. Perdona el idioma. Tenemos un mk6 gli y me encanto la instalación de intake. Donde puedo comprarlo?. Tienen la página o el lugar para comprarlo?. 🙏
Sorry mate, I’m not sure I understand.
Josh Walling traductiong: Great video. Forgive the language. We have a mk6 gli and I loved the intake facility. Where can I buy it?. Do you have the page or the place to buy it? 🙏
Thanks for the translation! It’s a CTS Turbo intake, so you can get it directly through them at CTSturbo.com, but it’s also available at UroTuning, ECS Tuning, and probably a few others as well.
Hopefully that helps!
hello josh. i have the same car and engine. i want to install a cold air intake and im short on cash so i went with a generic one where i plan to replace only the airbox area and keep the rest stock. i just want to make sure that it will work. if i fit it correctly, will not having the sai inlet negatively impact the car? what does it even do? also i noticed on my car (im sure its on yours as well but im not sure if i saw it nor did you mention removing it) there is a super small rubber tube coming off of the left side of the air box and going into the engine if i remember correctly. what is it? what if i dont have one? super long comment but your help would b e appreciated. thank you.
"what if i dont have one" as in what if it gets deleted due to the new intake being generic and not having the inlet for it
Some cars don’t even have the SAI, there is also a plastic drain tube on the air box to drain water out. If you can’t afford an intake system, then I highly recommend getting a performance drop-in panel filter and keeping the stock air box.
You can actually delete the SAI if you don’t have emissions testing, if that was something you want to do. The SAI is a small air pump that helps with reducing emissions on cold starts (I think, not 100%)
Quick question! I got a 2012 Jetta 1.8 TSI, everytime i turn the AC on it smells like gas, what do you think the problem may be?
Take your car into the dealership. Could be an exhaust leak, but could also be an actual gas leak. I wouldn’t mess around... also.... increase your insurance coverage and reduce your deductibles lol.
I had a similar issue on my 2016 Volkswagen Jetta GLI 2.0T, only I smelled gas when walking up to the car a random moments. Turned out to be a gas leak. Common issue I was told, thankfully it was still covered.
Do you have a bov or spacer ? Or is it the stock diverter valve?
Stock diverter valve. BOV spacers are annoying IMO. Makes it seem “boy-racer”-ish.
@@joshwalling4633 so would you always do stock over any bov?
100%. Even big turbo guys use the stock DV. Or, if anything, the GFB DV+. Spacers are just “faking” being fast, or at least give off that vibe.
@@joshwalling4633 Understood .....And some of the spacers do have a good bov sound to them I love turbo noises and that's the only reason I would get one
@@joshwalling4633 Side note I appreciate the replies and you now have +1 subscriber
Hey great Video guys...
Look I have a Jetta GLI 2017 2.0 tsi Can I install the same CTS turbo intek that you show in your video??
Sorry man not sure, I’d check with CTS turbo directly
does this need any kind of reprogramming the car system
Nope, you can install a properly designed intake like this and not do anything else to the car.
Sounds amazing!
Not me slowing down the UA-cam video so I can actually understand what he's saying 5:55
What did you do with the vacuum line that attaches to the stock intake box
You ever figure that out? Wondering the same
You guys, when you go to actually install the intake yourself, it is obvious where things go. Everything has a place to hook up to.
@@rizbigthe vacuum line attaches on the bottom you just cant see it in the video. I’m extremely happy with this setup.
@@joshwalling4633 it’s obvious you don’t know how to answer a question.
@@tdiworld9128 I did this video 3 years ago on an intake I’ve never installed before on an engine I’ve never worked on before. This video is so detailed, and yet I get many questions from people before they’ve actually attempted the install themselves. Trust me when I say, you can figure this one out when you go to install it on the car. This video is far too old for me to recall every little step, and if it isn’t shown in the video, it is likely a very obvious step.
I install the same cold air intake and my car makes a weird noise at high rpm anybody know why ??
Does it sound like an old school train horn haha or what does it sound like?
@@nip2121 🤣🤣 exactly what could be?
@@c.g.4195 diverter valve! You need to buy the latest revision diverter valve
do you have to mess with the MAF sensor?
Why would you add this? Is this only done after a stage 1 upgrade or can be anytime? Also would this void warranty?
Any dealer will find reasons not to pay warranty , if you change the intake and let's say the engine goes, they could blame it from the filter failing etc
1) Intakes such as this help the turbo spool faster, which makes a significant difference in acceleration. You are not necessarily adding power (+5-15hp depending on environment) but you’re bringing the power you already have down into your lower RPM’s. So installing a cold air intake on a car, especially one that has a turbo, will benefit greatly from it regardless of an ECU tune.
2) An intake will not directly void your warranty, however, if something were to go wrong with your motor/drivetrain, the dealership/company must legally prove that your modification was the cause of the failure.
Added note: ECU tunes like APR, Unitronic, etc. do void your warranty because you are adjusting the engine to go beyond what the manufacturer, in this case VW, originally intended it to.
I’ve never had my warranty voided from tunes. It might be possible for them to do it, but I’ve never actually heard of it happen.
@joshwalling this is an article passed around ford, but it’s still get across the main points and topics in this discussion and pretty much covers what any manufacturer/dealer could or would do. On some forums, people mention “mod-friendly” VW dealers but idk.
A solid discussion about VW tunes. APR has a APR Plus tune, which for about $900 it giver you a solid boost of Hp I believe it’s around 220 for the 1.8t and about 290 for the 2.0t. This is the lowest performance tune they offer. But it comes with a Powertrain warranty from APR. So, the real question is...why would APR make a lower tier tune, and feel the need to give you a power train warranty with it, if VW wouldn’t void your warranty in the first place? It doesn’t make sense. Also, APR does not offer a power train warranty on Stage 1-3 tunes
All I’m saying is, for a simple tune and bolt ons like intake and exhaust, I’ve never seen a dealer refuse maintenance or refuse to cover something from the warranty. I’ve been over it in my previous videos, but my GLI had an APR K04 kit and a DSG tune from UM along with all the bolt ons and the car has been to dealerships in CA, HI, and WI. Never been turned down for warranty work.
For real legit good information
Should tell us what tools are needed
Gonna be honest, these are my least favorite comments. You’ll need tools to work on your car, a whole set. If you have a VW you’ll want a full set of torx bits and triple squares. You do that, and you’ll be able to tackle any job pretty much.
Open the engine bay, take a look around and familiarize yourself with what you’ll need, and you’ll also get more familiar with the intake layout/structures.
You aren’t the first person who’s asked about tools, this is just my personal view on how to approach working on your car. You don’t need to be told that you’ll need a T15 bit, a T25 bit, a 13mm wrench… etc. etc. That, IMO, is a bridge too far in terms of hand-holding.
will this intake fit a 2014 mk6 gti with no tune?
for all fitment related questions, please turn to CTS Turbo’s website. This specific intake likely won’t fit, but I’m positive they make a similar one for yours. You do not need a tune to run an aftermarket intake.
Do you need a tune for this?
Nope!
Does this intake add horsepower from stock or just better airflow / efficiency compared to stock? Thanks in advance I want to do some minor mods to my 1.8T Passat appreciate your vids! Lights on point! Lol Peace
Right on, thanks for the reply! Yes it sounds way better for sure. Do you recommend a tune for the 1.8? I know it's not meant to be a speed demon for sure, but it is such a nice engine, and car what would you go with if you had to pick?
tim warumzer You really want power get a dyno tune,intake and full turbo back exhaust.
Thatll net you about 80 more hp at the wheels with a good tune.
Jake Smith Roger that! Thanks for the info! By the way what are the beverages in hand in this vid? 😋😁 Keep making videos you guys are great and funny together. Good times and cheers!
Joshua Walling Some cars produce different hp stock.Sometimes an off shelf tune will yield only 15 hp .Most tunes run the same price anyways.Off shelf or not.
In my case ,my stock 1.8 jetta put down 180/209 .Thats with 80k miles and no carbon cleaning.An off shelf tune would be a waste.
He needs a baseline dyno to see exactly what his car puts down.
APR stage 1 tune for the 1:8 turbo gen 3 Passat will get you a 40hp/40-45ft lbs of torque bump. Add in some of the less restrictive turbo inlet and discharge pipes and you can be at 220-230hp safely from a car that came stock at 170hp. Much more fun grocery getter....lol
Do you have the CTS throttle pipe also or is this just the CAI?
Just the CAI.
Is this thing supposed to make my car sound like it has a blow off
No, just make the turbo noises louder. Sometimes you can hear the diverter valve more, but if you want your car to sound like it has a BOV you need to get the diverter valve adapter things. Personally, I think they are lame and annoying.
Josh Walling I put it in and everything’s tight so it’s probably just the diverter, I’d go crazy if I heard a BOV every time I let off the gas
What do you do with the small hose on the left of the OE intake?
The one that goes to the secondary air pump? You’ll have to remind me a bit.
@@joshwalling4633 no it’s the one going into the air box, I had the same question
I saw your other comment. I honestly can’t remember. That looks to be a vacuum line and it probably goes on the new intake tube somewhere. Do the instructions not cover that at all? I don’t recall having any issues when installing this, and unfortunately, it was a one-off install on a car that isn’t actually mine so I’m not able to go out and check. If one of you has figured this out (the original comment is two months old), could you please chime in? Else, I’m afraid you’ll have to contact CTS.
@@joshwalling4633 I’m not sure about instructions, I’ve just been contemplating buying this intake and I want to be sure it’s the right one
Well that’s easy, go to their website and ensure it’s listed as one that fits. When you actually go to install the intake I’m sure this will all make sense. You don’t even really need a video, intake installs are very straightforward. This video is merely a “confidence builder.”
What happens to the small vacuum hose plugged into the left side of the old air box? After install mine is just dangling somewhere. What’s it for and is it important/ is there anything I should do with it?
If it’s the inlet to the SAI pump then CTS makes a breather filter that attaches to it.
Hey i have the same problem, i never got the brass little piece its supposed to come with, i just tryed to stretch the hoes and zip tie it to the hole under the metal piece between the silicon connector and pod filter. Honestly idk if it does anything, ive had it unconnected for a while on accident and idk what it does
Hes talking about the vacuum hoes around 6:57 in the video
I had to stretch mine to fit, but it still falls off, and now its torn (in case you know the replacement part number)
Jamo & Ginger upon introduction? Subbed!
Lol of course! And thanks
I’d love to do this i got a 14 jetta S would i be able to do this?
Probably, check CTS turbo website to see if they have one for your car.
Its this intake working for diesel?
I don’t actually make this, nor am I affiliated with CTS. Please refer all fitment related questions to CTS Turbo’s website.
do you know if the 2.0t air intake will fit the same?
I doubt it, I think the turbo inlet design is different.
On this same engine you guys should show is how to instal a hybrid bov/dv
This was a friends car so it probably won’t happen man, sorry!
Can Anyone help me find the mapping sensor for the 1.8t gen3 on my passat!
Will this work with a Jetta 1.4t tsi 2017
No clue, probably not. Check the CTS Turbo website to see if they have an intake that is specific to your application.
10:57 it sounded like u were in 2 step
10:58 ***
Some VW’s do that when you are in park hahaha, it’s not a two step - they are just trying to prevent you from revving in park. My MkV GLI did the same thing.
TW A, mate, you gotta relax. You are just going aggro on everyone in the comments.
Any actual performance gains with just this change?
Not really. Anyone who tells you different is lying. Intakes are for making nice noises. Gains are always negligible for intakes alone. Could drop in a performance panel filter in your OEM air box and get a similar “performance” result. But your “butt dyno” can’t feel 1-5 HP difference.
I stand by what I said. I said “Gains are always negligible for intakes alone.” A downpipe and an associated tune will net a huge gain, but, you could leave that very same OEM intake in there and put in a nice panel filter and get the same result.
There is loads of research and A-B dyno testing out there for installing an intake and testing for power gains. The story is always the same.
1) People (including myself) love the look of the intake and the added noise that comes with it; 2) it’s a mod that will most certainly make them more money than anything else they develop and must differentiate themselves by making it *that much better* than the competition (e.g., our intake makes 1 HP more than X companies intake, or ours is carbon fiber, blah blah blah); 3) ever notice how many of today’s modern cold air intakes reutilize the factory air inlet location? 4) using your own logic, and perhaps most importantly, engineers of the OEM components wouldn’t spend time and money making an inefficiently flowing intake. Again, look at some A-B (back to back) tests of stock vs. cold air intake (WITHOUT adding a tune, because that isn’t the argument here). Time and time again the intake shows to have *negligible* power improvements (when you are talking about a 200 HP car, a 1% change in power would be characterized as negligible).
I’ve also hidden you from public view on the channel. Not because you are arguing with me, because that’s fine, but you are being toxic to others and not harvesting an environment of encouragement. What this means is that you can still comment and watch the videos on the channel, but only I can see your comments.
We all start somewhere, the last thing the car community needs is someone publicly shaming them for asking questions.
just curiosity.. i know with the aftermarket intake the sound increases. but, has anyone tried leaving the stock rear pipe and just replacing the air box with the CTS filter?. i really dont see much of a difference between the stock n the aftermarket pipes. Any thoughts?
I didn’t really measure them at the time, and it’s been a while, but I’d say it probably just looks better. I’ve always said intakes are for sound and looks. Just a fun and easy mod to do.