What are the Expectations for Jayson Tatum Next Season? | THE ODD COUPLE
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker discuss the burden that's been lifted from Jayson Tatum winning a championship.
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Damn tatum gotta be tony Allen on defense and jordan on offense to win mvp while luka and joker only got to do is be magic johnson,these guys are the reason why we losing our American stars
Its so messed up that luka doesn't even have to be a decent defender to be MVP because he sucks on D. But Tatum has to be a tenacious defender plus be clutch and score 30plus and and . Double standards
Giannis averaged 30ppg on 61% shooting with 11 boards and 6 assists and zero mvp votes
Dame and Doc Rivers prevented him from winning
Jayson Tatum is Goku. Jaylen Brown is Vegeta.
Jayson Tatum is Naruto. Jaylen Brown is Sasuke.
Jayson Tatum is the art of boxing. Jaylen Brown is MMA.
Jayson Tatum is a glass of wine, Jaylen Brown is a shot of whiskey.
Both are amazing players, and one can be better than the other depending on what your tendencies are.
you guys think Luka is god with no defense....stop it..... Tatum just need to be more efficient with his shot's if that happens Tatum is as good a MVP candidate as anyone of those guy's
@@DaBadSeed because his offense is far above Tatum's is why. He's already in legendary type status offensively. Tatum is just a taller, slightly better version of Paul George offensively
@@jctsliceThe individual accolades mean nothing to JT. The objective was to hang Banner 18 and he helped lead his team to that goal.
@@jctslice Tatum is 30 point avg scorer in this league..Luka is not far better offensive player he is better though.
@@jctslicenaw they want him to score 30 plus while being efficient and clutch and the tenacious defense. There's a huge double standard for whatever reason. They just don't like Tatum or that he's a Celtic but it's there.
@@bassape207 The media wants "dogs". They don't want well-adjusted stars like Giannis, Joker, or players with a life outside of the NBA. Jayson is a topflight defender and one of the only players to really lock down KD "the most unstoppable 1 v 1 players in the league". IDK what they want outside of hard fouls and trash talking when they say tenacious defense.
Like I said JT/JB can clear any other duo and just be a great winning duo.
I’m not 100% certain on that. They barely passed Butler and Bam the year prior even before game 7. Giannis and Lillard, George and Embiid will be just as good.
@@DaNewWaveLee the addition of Holiday changed things though. He’s pretty much an All star level player and KP has star level talent as well while White took his game to another level. Health will be the main factor but they got a squad that can take on anyone. Can’t stand it but it’s the truth 😂
@@DaNewWaveLeewhy do y’all have so much confidence in Embiid?? It’s mind boggling…😅
@@DaNewWaveLeebucks lost to that heat team in 5 as well lol they’ve been underachieving ever since winning a title
Weird how Jaylen Brown won ECF MVP and Finals MVP and gets no coverage at all.
Bro went under a rock after the Celtics won😂 Jaylen was getting talked about all the time after they won. It’s been 2 weeks since they won and Tatum signed a super max and people aren’t supposed to talk about it?
There is coverage. Go find it.
Stephen A Smith was right
He doesn't lead the team year after year in all 3 main categories while drawing all the attention from the other teams defense. That's why. I love JB and I think he's awesome but if you take Tatum off the court and JB got all the double and Triple teams he wouldn't be as effective.
@@bassape207 Thank you! Somone with since. I like JB also but let him be the number one option and see what happens...
3Peat ☘️
stop puffing bro
I see it coming
Only time rob brings energy is if bron or his son the topic 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tatum going after more. Idk if he’ll even have the numbers to win mvp. They’ll have to have a really good regular season record compared to the 2nd team.
Happened this year still didn't happen
You can tell who watched more games. Anybody dont think Tatum defended is blind
Tatum is definitely top 5 now. The Tatum hate should be over!
Love rob response of JT
But Chris you gotta stop with the expectations these are your goals for JT maybe JT is focused on something else like banner 19😁 and stop with the kb MJ and bron comparisons let JT become his own star but I don't remember when bron was ever an elite defender if so where's his defensive player award 🤷
@@user-mf5sn6cq3o around his time in Mia
Facts they tryna put Tatum on a Jordan pedestal instead of a kd pedestal 😂
27pt 10 rebs 5 asts and the best record could get him the MVP next season
Nah his fg percentage be trash
what stops people from being great defenders is only laziness
Naw the offensive players are way to hard to guard for 48
@@19934 i didnt say anything about 48
i said literally WHAT STOPS PEOPLE FROM BEING GREAT DEFENDERS... IS ONLY LAZINESS i.e. lack of effort
99% of defense is effort
@@DynoGreen313 my bad you’re right read to fast
tatum gotta do all this while none of the mvp winners did everything they are saying insane
So if JB is supposedly the best player on the team now then why would there be any expectations for JT?
Anyone care to explain this conundrum? 🤔🤔🤔
U guys hands people MVP that cant play spell defense and want to poke holes in this youngmen game(JT) that has evolve to a complete basketball player that plays both end of the court. U got people like Brunson in front JT, Brunson is dam near a liability on D. This is not the Nfl where u only have to play one side of ball. So why do JT has to be a better defender, when the award is being handed to people that literally a liability D.
No one feared LeBron defensively. He’s not in the same class as Kobe or Jordan on that end. And for Chris to say that’s one of the areas he needs to improve to elevate himself is laughable because he constantly hugs Luka’s 🥜 and he is literally a cone.
Lebron was an elite rim protector are you slow? He could challenge 1-5 defensively in his prime
@@mattmolt-bb1iwBron was definitely a defensive playmaker, but he wasn’t the on ball defender Kobe or Mike were. Yes he had mad chase down blocks and he played the passing lanes well, but no one shied away from him in the half court because he never moved laterally very well. And that 1-5 narrative is false. If he had been asked to guard any legit center he would’ve been toast.
@@Patawonbro I never seen anyone hunt Lebron on defense, even at age 40 people still don’t hunt Lebron on defense lol.
@@jaydot4956that has nothing to do with my comment. Bron has never been a liability on the court in any way other than maybe free throws to an extent. I’m saying he’s not feared defensively and never has been. Steve Smith said teams would flip plays to avoid MJ’s side because he was so disruptive. There’s a difference.
Brown got Mamba Mentality for sure he got a serious demeanor he even speak Spanish like Kobe Bean Bryant
That's a gay comparison lol ,Tatum got that mamba mentality in close out games
Why cant a player just be the best version of himself??
they can
Jaylen could win the next 10 MVps and media will still be holding on to the narrative of Jayson being the best player
Forget the next 10. Just try getting one which he will never get because he is just not good enough. Sorry for your misplaced anger.
People really dont watch tatum play Defense. Outside of luka (which is a hard matchup for him) he is a great defender. I do mean great. Real celtics fans know this & they know JB's defensive reputation (up until this past season) FAR exceeded the reality while JT's reputation SEVERELY underplayed his value.
I am not pitting JT vs JB, im simply saying that if you watch every celtics game since theyve played in the NBA, you know im right.
People really forgetting that Tatum in the engine on that offenses brown and everybody gets the best looks when he's on the court ,he's the play maker he calls the plays ,dude was literally the PG and power forward ,while defensively he guarded 1-5 , people forget Tatum took the KD assignment on 2022 and probably was on of the best times somebody guard KD ,a while being the team leading scorer and hitting game winners to sweep Brooklyn the team that was projected to win it all 🤣 ,they don't appreciate what he's done,even tho this Tatum best 3pt shooting season in a few seasons his shot not the same due to the fact that he put on like 10-15 pounds ,I barely watched Boston all year till the playoffs I was surprised how big he got in the off season and that right there will mess up your shooting,he will adjusting tho
Tatum doesn’t need to take his game to another level, although I’m sure he will. That Celtics team is stacked.
If you're not in the top 3 for MVP, you're not in the running, you're just watching. Being in the top 6 doesn't mean you're in the running for MVP. If Luka has similar numbers or better and the Mavs win like 55+ games, he has a great chance of winning it.
Hopefully whatever is next he works on that step back jump shot since he insists on shooting 90% of his attempts from the perimeter on side/step back shots... 28% from the perimeter ain't ELITE that's G League percentages...!
Why is JT bar so high. ????
Right Tatum can go into next season avg a triple double, with 30 points ,the best record but he can't get the MVP because he's not a defensive player of the year finalist 🤣 mean while joker and Luka can get one while being cones on defense 🤣 mind ya these the folks that's voting for MVP ,and wonder why we never have American superstar talent ,we got them they just don't get the respect from these voters
Far too many folks are measuring the Celtics and Jayson on this year. A odd year at best and one that's not likely to be repeating in the EAST, next year. Just about every team the Celtics will face next year have improved and what have the Celtics down by comparison. They locked up all their Starting Five but that hardly means they will dominate in the same fashion win wise, next year in the playoffs.
Jayson Tatum have to jump many hoops that others doesn't it seems people forget that Tatum locked Durant up in the 2022 playoffs, people forget about Tatum in the clutch in 2023 and in the playoffs,Boston is known for blowouts in the regular season, not that many situations he's in he rarely playing the last 6 minutes in the 4th but Tatum gotta be a defensive monster while Luka and joker just have to play one side of the ball? And y'all wonder why Americans stars are declining,y'all put more pressure on them than the. Foreigners
Who would y'all build around Brunson or Tatum?!
With that contract, better be three more championships......
League is too stacked top. Tatum would only have a chance of winning if 2 of the top 3 candidates get injured
Jokic, Giannis, and Embiid are eliminated from MVP talks. They can’t win play much better than they have previously played and the media wont reward them for losing in the playoffs. Luka is the clear front runner followed but Edwards, Gilgeous-Alexander, and the dark horse Morant. Tatum has a chance but the perception of his team and Brown arguably being just as good will hold him back.
Ja isn’t near MVP so far😂😂he was out most last season n i think Ant, Shai, Luka, Joker, Giannis, Tatum and even Brown are over him 100% and probs at least 10 more players
Morant ?
Stephen A Smith was right, no one cares about Jaylen Brown. Kendrick Perkins has more commercials than this dude
Tatum isnt their leader, or the best post game guy, or the best defender, or the best closer. His best argument is hes the best shooter but in the poat season hes inefficient...so how is he the best player?
Did you watch the playoffs or just go by if somebody scored 30 points or more? If your shot is not falling, can you do other things to impact winning? JT was on the glass, racked up assists and his defense especially against the bigs for Dallas was huge.
@therealdarrell282 its not like he wasnt trying to score. Most games he led the game in FG attempts 😂
@@marklumar2034 Again, you are looking at points only. You can say Luka dropped 30 points, but did he impact the game against Boston in the Finals, no.
@@marklumar2034 it's going to come to him regardless he's the primarily ball handler and play maker ,if you actually pay attention,Tatum mostly shoots when the offense isn't orchestrated and they have to do something with the ball before a shot clock violation so he forces it,but he only avg 19.6 attempts while you got stars like Luka avg 26 attempts,Tatum could of took more ,his peers take more
Back 2 Back champions baby 🍀
Jayson tatum will never be the next larry bird. LB short 55 % from 3 Point line career hes larry legend
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92nobody said he was, lol. As a Celtics fan, I actually agree with you. That just felt way out of left field😂
Highly unlikely there are 2 many good teams and players getting better and potentially finally healthy.
Do something, win a scoring title, average a double double something, stop forcing players into the spotlight, and stop moving the goal post because Luka and Jokic are super mid on defense and yaw crown them, Greek freak and Embiid at least play defense as MVPs.
"super mid"? whats that? luka sucks on defense and so does joker
LeBron has never been a “tenacious “ defender. At best a good weak side shot blocker
Back to back titles, GET the FMVP, and DON'T choke in the biggest moments. He shot terrible for a lot of the playoffs and finals. He's still a lowkey playoff choker, so you have to prove you can beat the best of the best HEALTHY. No one Boston played was 100%. And spare me Boston fans with the Porzingis stuff. KP is arguably not even a Top3 most impactful Celtic when you look at JT, JB, and Derrick White. Their opponents were getting injuries to probably their MOST impactful players, so it's not the same. Enough with the false equivalency. That's what Tatum needs to prove/do to really be a no doubt superstar in the NBA
So, what happened in Game 5 to close out the 2024 NBA finals, Jayson Tatum had a 30 point triple double while Jaylen Brown shot 30.4% from the field on 23 field goals (7/23)… Wait, so what happened last year in the 2023 eastern semi-finals when the Celtics and sixers went to game 7 and Jayson Tatum dropped 51 13 5 and 2 steals (the all time record for highest points in a game 7 btw...) while Jaylen brown scored 25 points... What happened then? (BTW, do you even know how the celtics forced that game 7 where JT dropped 51? In game 6, JT started the game missing 14/15 shots (crazy right??) well, he then proceeded to make FOUR 3-pointers in the final 4:14 to force that game 7 where he dropped 51 WHILE the MVP of that same 2023 season dropped a measly 15(!!!!) in that game 7 (ironic huh 51 vs 15 while everybody proclaims one as the MVP lol). Wait, wait, wait, I GOT MORE, what happened when Jayson Tatum was in Milwaukee in 2022 for an elimination game 6, the year after the bucks won the NBA title in 2021, what did Jayson Tatum, do? Oh yeah he dropped a casual 46 points on 17/32 shooting while Brown had 22 points...Man im a jaylen brown fan but yall celtics haters clinging onto this narrative that Jaylen Brown is somehow better than jayson Tatum, is sad and it needs to be studied yall need to touch some grass fr.
Now respectfully, S T F U. Clown. and you dont know basketball, learn something, watch some NBA games for once in your life. Sick of you casuals. Let the celtics fans that have actually watched EVERY game of JB and JT careers tell you whos better okay? Not some celtics haters that just wanna put the Celtics' ACTUAL BEST PLAYER down a pedestal because they're upset Boston got ANOTHER ONE. SAD AF.
“JT just got it going and get out of that man’s way,” Brown said. “He got it rolling, and there’s nothing they could do to stop him.”
@@GurtonBuster07 How are you breaking down 8 years of playoffs into 1 game? Thats great for one game but he is a playoff choker in big moments.
@@enigma13ffisn't Tatum knows for being the best in close out games the last few years ? Tatum Only been in the league for 7 years Tatum was known for being a ball hog , finally shares the ball even in clutch times now he's a choke artist and scared of the moment,it's like damn if he do damn if he don't,he not bout to shoot his team of da game if Tatum not hitting the game winner or hitting a shot in the clutch,he's definitely the one in the mix orchestrating the offense to find the best look possible,the ball will always go thru,but if they are down and nothing is happening,just like he did in game 3 against Indiana he's going to find a way to come back and start hitting shots just like he against Philly last year playoffs 16 points in 3 minutes,in a come back win
@@DaMillerBoi but if you're that guy, you take the big shots & are willing to be a killer and take bad shots at times to win your team the game on your back. Same thing with LeBron. He runs from the big moment, but it gets masked as "making the right play". No, it's running lol. Both Tatum and LeBron run from the big moments. Jaylen Brown doesn't. That's why he's better
It’s amazing odd couple don’t want to push Jaylen Brown. Either mainstream media is stuck on pushing Jason Tatum to the front why Jaylen Brown was the finals MVP.🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Because as great as Brown was, the only thing he did better than Tatum was FG%. That’s it. He didn’t even average more points. Tatum led his team in every major statistical category while winning the title. Now his poor shooting held him back from winning the MVP, but there’s no doubt Tatum’s the best player on the championship team.
@@ke3p1tco0l2 when the light shines the brightest Jaylen Brown is the one that comes through and Tatum shrinks in the moment, but everyone Everyone like to push the narrative of Jayson Tatum I guess Jaylen Brown would have not supported the big three or stand up for Kyrie maybe mainstream media will look at him differently
@@barnardkemp9693 I agree that Brown raises his game in big moments. He’s been great at that. But if he’s truly the team’s best player, why doesn’t he lead in a single category? Why do the Celtics generally perform better as a team when JB goes to the bench vs when JT goes to the bench? The stats don’t lie. JB being “more clutch” doesn’t automatically make him the team’s best player. There’s soo much more to the game than just that.
lmao bruh yall act like a player other than the best player has never won fmvp yall so sad, were you saying iggy was better than steph in 2015 stop it tatum has made first team all nba THREE STRAIGHT YEARS IN A ROW and in both series where JB won ECFMVP and FMVP, Tatum led the entire team in every major statistic. YALL SAD ASL. LEARN SOME BASKETBALL AND STOP HATING. The information is online yall just to braindead with hate its sad asf
@@ke3p1tco0l2 Jaylen Brown just cannot win one moment you say he’s the best player then come up with 1000 excuses why he’s not being celebrated. You should average more points than I do if you shoot the ball more than me.
It's sad that the old media brainwash people from enjoying and appreciating the essence of Team into making everything about the individual. What should we expect from the Celtics not JT???
I agree. The media did a great job of selling the Mavs to the fringe?casual fans to pick Dallas in the Finals.
Ummm? Another championship? 😂 I suppose. 😂
Clippers will be the next to 3peat
All he gotta do is stay black and go to the bank 😂😂😂😂😂
Jb is their best player, the ecf mvp and the finals mvp yet everyone keeps bringing up tatum
- casual
So, what happened in Game 5 to close out the 2024 NBA finals, Jayson Tatum had a 30 point triple double while Jaylen Brown shot 30.4% from the field on 23 field goals (7/23)… Wait, so what happened last year in the 2023 eastern semi-finals when the Celtics and sixers went to game 7 and Jayson Tatum dropped 51 13 5 and 2 steals (the all time record for highest points in a game 7 btw...) while Jaylen brown scored 25 points... What happened then? (BTW, do you even know how the celtics forced that game 7 where JT dropped 51? In game 6, JT started the game missing 14/15 shots (crazy right??) well, he then proceeded to make FOUR 3-pointers in the final 4:14 to force that game 7 where he dropped 51 WHILE the MVP of that same 2023 season dropped a measly 15(!!!!) in that game 7 (ironic huh 51 vs 15 while everybody proclaims one as the MVP lol). Wait, wait, wait, I GOT MORE, what happened when Jayson Tatum was in Milwaukee in 2022 for an elimination game 6, the year after the bucks won the NBA title in 2021, what did Jayson Tatum, do? Oh yeah he dropped a casual 46 points on 17/32 shooting while Brown had 22 points...Man im a jaylen brown fan but yall celtics haters clinging onto this narrative that Jaylen Brown is somehow better than jayson Tatum, is sad and it needs to be studied yall need to touch some grass fr.
Now respectfully, S T F U. Clown. and you dont know basketball, learn something, watch some NBA games for once in your life. Sick of you casuals. Let the celtics fans that have actually watched EVERY game of JB and JT careers tell you whos better okay? Not some celtics haters that just wanna put the Celtics' ACTUAL BEST PLAYER down a pedestal because they're upset Boston got ANOTHER ONE. SAD AF.
You arguing whos the "best player" like JT hasnt been FIRST TEAM ALL-NBA for the past 3 years. HINT, he's been a top 5 player for 3 straight years now yall CASUALS just LATE to the party. HE GETS MORE TALK... CUZ HE BETTER LMAO.
“JT just got it going and get out of that man’s way,” Brown said. “He got it rolling, and there’s nothing they could do to stop him.”
the media decides who THEY want to be 'the guy'
they've been trying for 4 yrs now to MAKE tatum "a superstar"
he will NEVER be that
he's a star thats it
@@DynoGreen313brown had 8 years to be that guy he let Tatum snatch it from him,can't blame it on skin color historically the dark skin brothas always been the face of the league Bron magic,Jordan ,Kobe and Bron, why they haven't try to push brown to be the next mj? Why isn't Booker stardom bigger than tatum's? People know Tatum is the all around complete team player brown is 2 years older than Tatum and doesn't get the responsibility that Tatum gets you'll think Tatum knocking on 30 like brown the way he gets critique meanwhile you got Shai out here same age as Tatum they calling him a kid 😂
@@DaMillerBoi my brother i didnt say anything AT ALL about jaylen brown OR skin color
all i said it j tatum is NOT a superstar--- i was saying that 2 yrs ago when they were getting schooled by steph and em
he is a star not a SUPER star
he's not on that level
Tatum is not a superstar Broussard stop calling him that hes a star stop the madness
@@ApoloWilliams No, not yet
@@jctslice ty no hate it's just wen does tatum take over like 3 games straight never I watch gianiss embid jokic and even luka dominate
Luka was a joke in the finals idc about the numbers. Tatum is 8-1 against stupid Luka and kyrie
Tatum is the healthier, low carbs/diet version of Paul George. Really good, not great. U can even make an argument. Is he even the best player on his team?!
- casual
stop talking about weak ass paul george.
He’s better than Paul George. Lol. I agree that all the talk of Tatum and none of JB is crazy, though.
@@hdiverson So, what happened in Game 5 to close out the 2024 NBA finals, Jayson Tatum had a 30 point triple double while Jaylen Brown shot 30.4% from the field on 23 field goals (7/23)… Wait, so what happened last year in the 2023 eastern semi-finals when the Celtics and sixers went to game 7 and Jayson Tatum dropped 51 13 5 and 2 steals (the all time record for highest points in a game 7 btw...) while Jaylen brown scored 25 points... What happened then? (BTW, do you even know how the celtics forced that game 7 where JT dropped 51? In game 6, JT started the game missing 14/15 shots (crazy right??) well, he then proceeded to make FOUR 3-pointers in the final 4:14 to force that game 7 where he dropped 51 WHILE the MVP of that same 2023 season dropped a measly 15(!!!!) in that game 7 (ironic huh 51 vs 15 while everybody proclaims one as the MVP lol). Wait, wait, wait, I GOT MORE, what happened when Jayson Tatum was in Milwaukee in 2022 for an elimination game 6, the year after the bucks won the NBA title in 2021, what did Jayson Tatum, do? Oh yeah he dropped a casual 46 points on 17/32 shooting while Brown had 22 points...Man im a jaylen brown fan but yall celtics haters clinging onto this narrative that Jaylen Brown is somehow better than jayson Tatum, is sad and it needs to be studied yall need to touch some grass fr.
Now respectfully, S T F U. Clown. and you dont know basketball, learn something, watch some NBA games for once in your life. Sick of you casuals. Let the celtics fans that have actually watched EVERY game of JB and JT careers tell you whos better okay? Not some celtics haters that just wanna put the Celtics' ACTUAL BEST PLAYER down a pedestal because they're upset Boston got ANOTHER ONE. SAD AF.
You arguing whos "getting more talk" (whatever that fuckin means) like JT hasnt been FIRST TEAM ALL-NBA for the past 3 years. HINT, he's been a top 5 player for 3 straight years now yall CASUALS just LATE to the party. HE GETS MORE TALK... CUZ HE BETTER LMAO.
“JT just got it going and get out of that man’s way,” Brown said. “He got it rolling, and there’s nothing they could do to stop him.”
So y does Bru call him a superstar tatum is not a superstar he's a star
This guy Tatum saying it’s always easy to go to Miami. You already know that if Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier were playing in the playoffs, then you’d prob not be a champion right now.
Corniest Player Alive
What does that even mean?
@@Stac827 he's referring to the fake celebrations
His game is so wack
@@praveen921 what do you mean by fake? You think he wasnt genuinely happy in those moments?
@@Stac827 Of course he was, but he was copying a bunch of famous celebrations....it didn't seem authentic. I personally don't care, but the NBA media killed him for that.
Lebron is better then Tatum rn honestly ik yall don’t think that tho 💯💯💯
He's not lol
Lebron use to be,but now is more popular than JT. Who will start your team with right now. Yeah I no and rest my case.
Call Jeanie Buse and ask her about trading LeBron for Tatum, She prolly say I throw in Bronny and Bryce also. 😅😂😂😂