See some haters on Supertech Walmart oil. It meets the same qualifications as the other oils. The most important thing on oil is to replace every 5K. Frequent oil changes are the secret to engine longevity. 10K oil changes 👎, 5K oil changes 👍, and any clean oil is better than dirty oil! Been a supertech oil user for 20+ years, never had an engine failure. Sold my son my ‘93 Silverado with 250,000 miles, he drove it to 385,000 miles on original engine, with no overhauls. Same for transmission. When he was done with it, he sold to some else. Supertech (and an assortment of brands) oil changes done at 5K intervals.
Well you inspired me to do my own oil change that I had been putting off because I thought that oil plug would spell oil everywhere. I did back the plug out slowly and it was easy to control the flow of oil coming out didn’t spill a drop. And depending on how level of surface you have, the oil filter will spill a little bit to the front or to the back off of that silver pan attached to the cross member. Thanks!
I initially used the 5w-20 PUP, but after a ton of research went to the 5w-30 PUP. In the early 2000’s Ford switched from 5w-30 to 5w-20 to help meet CAFE standards. After going to 5w-30 my 18 5.0 was much quieter. I’ll trade a tenth of a MPG for 25% more film strength.
When I change mine I hold the plug slightly in so I can control the flow of the oil so it doesn’t get all over everything. Takes a little longer but makes way less of a mess. I always change my plugs every other oil change and I keep the previous as a spare.
Next time you drain your oil. Put some aluminum Foil over the steering bar so when the oil drains out the foil keeps the bar from getting messy. After your done draining the oil just get rid of the foil. I use 10-30 Mobil one with Motocraft or wix filters Thanks for the video
98 F150 4.6 purchased with 7 miles, sold with nearly 240,000. Valvoline, Castrol or Mobil One full synthetic with K&N filter, never had engine issues. Now I have a 2016 F150 nearing 145000, same oils & filters. Same with 2015 Focus, 2.0, full syn plus K&N, 110000 miles thus far and still 31.6 mpg, too I'm mindful of where I buy fuel.
I have the 5.0 in my 2016 F150 Lariat and I also use Pennzoil Full Synthetic 5W20 but I use the Pennzoil “Ultra” Full Synthetic. It’s a step above the regular full synthetic that you just used. It’s not available on any shelf in any store so purchasing it online is the only choice. Also, the oil filter that I use is the WIX 57502XP which is designed for “full synthetic oil”.
We get the ULTRA by the boat loads up here in Canada. Our Canadian Tire store usually has 25-40 5l jugs on the shelf in stock at any given time, plus it goes on sale half off every couple months.
@@dragoslav3859 It rarely goes on sale online here in the US and when it does, it’s usually close to $21.00 dollars for a 5 quart container but the normal price is just shy of $25.00 dollars for a five quart container via Walmart online which offers the best price. I usually check online weekly for a sale and when it pops up, I’ll purchase 9 of the above mentioned containers. The best price for the filter I mentioned is from RockAuto or CARiD and they usually run close to $7.00 dollars each. I’m sure up in Canada, the prices are definitely higher
Just wanted to say on your comment about viscosity…yep it’s true that the older engines took a much thicker oil…however, the 5.0L Coyote would blow them out of the water performance-wise.
I had the oil consumption issue in my 2019 and I ended up getting the free ford upgrade tsb throttle body reflashing to which Ford uses to improve this and stop the throttle body from opening too much, also they improved it by using the 2015 5.0 mustang pcv valve which has a checkerboard breather hole unlike the original that was completely open causing oil to burn and the final part of that tsb, tech service bulletin is to install the longer oil dipstick to reflect the upgraded changes to the engine. It did fix the issue! It's fine now!
exactly.. u said it for me.. how many people are putting to much oil in because of the short dipstick just to blow it into the intake better get a catch can even for normally aspirated engine
my 2015 F150,5.0 hit 95K this week....Its needs it 100K service,so far I (DIY) have changed belts,plugs,front wheel bearings,tranny service ,coolant,rear diff,cabin and air filters,Rotors and pads ... I use Mobile one and a wix filters on every vehicle I own ..... Since you cant get a new one Ill have to hang on to my old 2015
Great video! I just downsized from an f-250 to a 2020 f-150. I just didn’t need the f2 it was too big and I never pulled anything a half ton couldn’t pull but anyway I have the 5.0 engine and as soon as i bought it i started seeing things about 18-20 oil consumption with the new 5.0 engines... I’m very worried about it and hope mine doesn’t do it or gets better over time it’s brand new with only 400 miles so i haven’t checked the oil level yet but I will at about 1000 miles. Please keep us updated on your next oil change to see if yours has stopped or gotten better.
Switch to 5w-30 and drive it hard to break it in. Also use Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w-30. Mine went to using a quart every 5k to basically nothing after the switch to this oil.
Newer engines have much tighter tolerances then older ones thats why they use lower weight oil. Also for fuel efficiency. If you put to heavy a weight oil in a newer engine it won't be able to circulate as well.
Baloney....Ford spec's low viscosity motor oil because it improves gas mileage (marginally). They don't care if 20W causes your engine to wear-out prematurely. I have a 5.0 Coyote in my truck and run Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10-30. My son has used the same oil in his 2012 5.0L F150 from day 1, and it has 188,000 miles on it. His truck still runs like new and doesn't burn oil. The best two oil filters are Mobil 1 Extended Performance and Wix XP, both are rated at 20,000K miles.
2016 f150 5.0 I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w20. Walmart generally has the best price on this oil and use the rebate program from Pennzoil when available. Wix XP filter. Cost is around $35.00 per change using premium oil and filter. Never had any consumption issues. I have also used the Motorcraft FL500S filter and never had a problem. Manual calls for 7.7qts.
With modern synthetic oils, I change 5k intervals in turbo applications (my 3.5 eco) and 7.5k intervals in my NA engines (V6 Tacoma) 3k intervals in a 5.0 is way too early, imo I get the “oil is cheap” argument. But most people only keep their trucks to 100k miles. Even with 10k mile changes, ittl go 250k minimum
Pennzoil ultra platinum it’s better than Mobil. It’s made 100% natural gas and have higher durability on turbo heat. Olso with Pennzoil you not going to have oil consumption. It’s highly recommended for eco boost engines to have good quality oil and change every 6000 miles
I found your video very informative, although I may have missed it but I was waiting for you to tell us how many quarts of oil you use in that 302? Nick
Does dad know you used his expensive microfiber towel to twist on that oily filter? Where is my discount code for the metal oil plug, I'm not dropping $50 on an oil plug.
I use nothing but Penzoil Ultra platinum full synthetic in my fleet of vehicles. Have for years and never had a problem. Best oil in my opinion. Also I only use wix/Napa oil filters.
@@gordonlasiter9566 Yes, it's very sad that Ford calls this a fix. The marks between add and the full is around 3 qts. Glad I researched the issue before I bought one. I bought the 2.7.
@@christopherm7702 the 2.7 is great but has oil pan gasket issues(ive had it replaced twice, on the third time ford said i have to pay, its over 1000 installed cuz its like a 6 hours job or something)
@@joeykimball5705 Do you have the 4wd model? 6 hours seems a little excessive. I would buy the ford part and have an independent install or do it myself. Plastic oil pans are another stupid design by ford. Thanks for the reply!
Have you seen Ford's TSB for the oil consumption issue? They have a flash for the truck to reduce vacuum when you take your foot off of the throttle. I guess it is making too much vacuum and sucking oil up into the intake manifold. They also install a different dipstick.
They changed the dipstick to be able to add a quart more and to help diminish the obvious fact that it's consuming. I read that in 2018 they used spray in plasma ark sleeves instead of metal sleeves to save 8lbs of weight. imagine 2021 they get cylinder deactivation... FORD cutting costs and building GMC reputable trucks now.
Good video I liked it I wish you would’ve shown where the oil pours out from when you remove the filter someone said it pours to the front other people said it pours to the back. I have a 2019 with 5.0 Same thing almost no oil consumption but I don’t tow with it.
Just changed the oil in my truck (2019 f150 5.0L), when removing the filter there's a funnel built into the metal plate below the filter that directs any oil that comes out towards the front driver side. If you reach under and feel around you will see it directly underneath the filter. Hope this helped.
@@haddonsmith345 Holding up great so far. Ticked 4300 miles so it's still being broken in, in my opinion. Haven't had any issues with anything, other than an extremely minor paint defect I found before I bought the truck. I work for Ford in the paint dept., I guess I just see them a little differently and know where issues would be. Back on subject though, I haven't had an issue burning oil yet, that was supposed to be fixed after the 2018 models. I guess we'll find out more when we tick over 10-15k miles and see for ourselves. Good luck with your truck and congrats on it! Thanks for supporting my line of work.
Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
A defect that Ford won't admit to? They literally have a TSB out on it. Not that it inspires confidence in Ford's reliability, but they've at least acknowledged it.
All Scotty Kilmer says has one assumption, that is you DON'T BABY your vehicle. For example, what leads to many transmission failures is you step on the brake pedal when waiting for traffic light. After years of this operation, the transmission will surely break down. If you put into neutral while waiting the light, and put back into drive when light turns green, I bet very few people will have transmission problems.
I have 2018 ford F-150 which i will get oil changed on tomorrow. I will take to dealership and let them have the honors. They recommend Motorcraft synthetic blend 5-30. I run Penzoil synthetic in wife's car with no problems.
nice video. Quik question, but what is the benefit of the metal plug replacement?? Does it allow a quick mess free oil change? Or?? Just curious. I like the fact that you used good quality oil!! Nice...
It allows for a better flow of the oil when you drain it, Ronins plug also has a magnet at the end of their plug to catch any small metal particles as well. It’s worth every penny!
@@jaredf.8712 ... thanks for the reply. I'm hoping that you can get an O-ring replacement for that metal plug. I fear that after 3 or 4 oil changes, the O-ring might start leaking. Something to keep in mind.
@@biz4twobiz463 i hear you, i would imagine you could always get a replacement one after a few oil changes for “just in case” purposes. I agree with you there. It is a upgrade from the stock yellow plug though.
I use that particular weight Pennzoil full syn in 19 jeep 5.7, 0w20 full syn 19 jeep 3.6 and motorcraft 5w20 blend in our lincolns and Fords.. plus Castrol 5w20 blend HM aswell ..but I probably had the best results over the years and many vehicles with motorcraft
Oil weight has no correlation to engine size. Why would you think that just because it's a V8 it needs 15w-40? (I know you didn't say that) Engineers specify oil weight that will lubricant the small nooks and crannies of certain internal engine parts best. That was a huge issue with 5.4 tritons. They would start ticking because people were putting heavier weight oil. The timing chain tensioner needed a certain psi to operate right and was using the oil as its hydraulic fluid. Because people were using thicker weights the psi wasn't right causing failures.
The early tensioners had poorly designed gaskets and blew out causing low oil pressure and eventually destroying the guides, cams and the rest of the engine. Nothing to do with the weight of the oil. The only reason for the 5W-20 recommendation was to meet gas milage standards. They ran fine on heavier weight oil.
My 2018 with 34,000 miles is in the middle of an “oil consumption” test. I must add 2 qts after 1500 miles from day one. Got the run around and fed BS until I finally read the procedure Ford put out which acknowledges the issue. It was a ford dealers shop bulletin. Step 14 says to change engine, send old engine in for analysis. Some people are getting “lemon law” judgements and trading them back to dealer. Look it up, it’s a real issue. Ford is my favorite but the 2018 5.0 is of very poor design.
The oil that came in your truck from the factory should have stayed in much longer than 2900 miles. (no less than 5000 miles) The break-in period is very important. The oil that came in your truck was the biggest part and most important of the break-in period. The oil put in new engines from the factory is break-oil. Extremely crucial for the piston rings to have that oil for proper seating. Doing the correct break-in on an engine will prevent blow-by which causes oil consumption. As an engine machinist of 30 years... DO NOT DRAIN BREAK-IN OIL TOO EARLY
I'm going to check it out. Look into testing for Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, not just the platinum. It is probably one of the best and would match up to the oil your mentioning. Not many people know the ultra platinum because you have to special order it.
Quick chat: has anyone with the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 V8 have the oil consumption issue fixed or disappear? Or had the oil consumption issue never appear at all?
You’re supposed to drive the car first and get the oil hot, gets more contaminates out of the engine when you change it. I use Supertech full synthetic 5W30 from Walmart, $14 for a 5 quart jug, can’t beat it for the price.
You should always change your oil when the engine is warmed up. I noticed you took the drain plug out with your bare hand. I was taught that a hot or warmed engine is ideal for extracting more oil than a cold engine
The point of doing a change with warm oil is to suspend any particulate in the oil and off the bottom of the pan and valleys to ensure you get the most debris out. This is true and you need not be a scientist to make sense of it
I use mobil 1 0w40 full synthetic oil for all my vehicles. In hot summer, it won't dilute due to the heat, and in cold winter it flows well. 5w20 in my eyes, is water. The only reason many manufacturers recommend 5w20 or this is the only type of oil "approved", is because this super thin oil will help achieve better gas mileage in their test, which is purely political and bureaucratic crap. The 5.0 v8 generates so much heat that the 5w20 of course can't handle, so that's why many people complain about oil consumption problems. I have Japanese cars, German cars, and with no exception, mobil 1 0w40 works the best. If I had a performance car like BMW M3, I would go for 10w50. But for non-performance vehicles, 0w40 will be the best choice. BTW, I don't even take a look at manufacturer manual stuff, because I know it must be bullshit.
I have an 18 5.0 and it's got 28000km sorry Canadian measurement. It's at the dealership as I'm writing this.2000km after oil change and it's 1/2 on the dipstick. Also 2nd time for transmission rattle.Keep your receipts.I read sleeveless blocks for gen 3.Could it be the cause?
Had mine in 2x for rattle. First time they told me they didn't hear anything. Now it's worse and they told me it was spark knock and to use high octane. It's definitely the transmission. 3 tanks of high octane in and it still rattles.
I use pliers n slowly turn it to get it off today i made a rookie mistake n didnt check that the mobil 1 filter didnt have a gasket so when i turn the truck on covered everything in oil smh n had to re do it again sigh but my mistake I didn’t check I normally use motor craft filter but they didn’t have it i should of checked if it had the gasket
On my german vehicles I either use castrol or liqui moly. On my domestic vehicles, I use castrol, royal purple, or valvoline. Honestly most oils nowadays are so darn good that as long as they say SN or SN PLUS on the back, they're good for basically any gasoline vehicle. Sure some are better than others, but the differences are almost negligible from oil to oil if you're not driving like a maniac.
Did this truck come with the tray or diaper that you have to drop down, to get to the oil drain plug? My 2018 f150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost had a metal plug.
Changed an oil pan on an 09 f150 because someone stripped threads out of pan. It was NOT a fun job... Had to remove a lot of parts to get at it. Can't strip out the pan threads with a plastic cap, right? Haha
@@oudude27 Just because it's among the least expensive motor oil out there doesn't mean it's bad or "bottom grade." It meets the latest API standards. Most engines will run perfectly fine on it.
What do you all think about the conversation about Fully Synthetic Oil on DeBoss Garage channel recently? (I believe they were talking specifically for naturally aspirated engines).
Interesting conversation, I enjoyed listening to it. Their clarifications/conclusions mirrored my own experience in the industry: To give your engine the best chance at a long, happy life, just run the right viscosity oil and change it at the proper interval (about every 3k miles for older engines, about every 5k for newer). Any argument beyond that, i.e. conventional vs synthetic, amsoil vs super tech, additives vs no additives...all of these topics are either splitting hairs, or they really only matter in specific scenarios.
@@darkhoasi7k118 i put 7quarts and half of another quart, then drive it to the corner store , add what it tells you on the dipstick , between the 3-4 months or 3000 miles depending on your use or oil , check it once just to make sure and peace of mind , im coming up to 200k miles no issues with the coyote 5.0
Yes ronin is better than the other brands because you can use a clear tube to drain oil plus don't have to take the plug out, you just screw in a piece that has a nibble on the end which is what a tube can connect to if you want
I have 1,000 miles on my 2020. Changing the crappy oem oil out with a amsoil and filter, also checked for oil blowby in the pcv tubes, they looked oil free. I think these motors should have a catchcan system to catch the oil and fuel vapor before ingesting it in the air intake system and coating the turbos, intercooler and intake valves with oil vapor.
@@gordonlasiter9566 The PCV valve connects directly to the crankcase, so having the PCV tubes looking "oil free" on a 1000 mile engine doesn't really mean anything.
UPR sells metal oil plugs as well as ronin. Those metal oil plugs are a great way to prevent a mess due to ability to attach a siphon hose to the nipple to control where the oil drains too.
Don't do it. They leak and will damage the oil pan drain plug lungs inside the oil pan which is plastic. So adding a metal(Aluminum) drain plug into a plastic oil pan, guess which one will degrade first? Also, if you end up having a oil consumption/leak or engine issue they will use this to void your warranty.
I can't believe Ford putting those plastic oil, transmission pans, and plugs on their $50,000 plus vehicles. What the heck are they smoking? I have a Mustang V-6 and enjoy it. However, I would upgrade in a heartbeat to a Mustang GT if Ford went back to metal pans.
The better question is why go to a composite pan when metal has been tried and proven? Metal and plastic are 2 dissimilar materials. Wherever you have that in nature, you always have a potential for problems with leaks. Hey, I'm no engineer. However, Ford's Raptor pick ups had the plastic pan for a time. They have since gone back to metal. Why?
So your saying your oil pan leaks? I’m just wondering exactly what problems they cause because no-one seems to specify. And the Ford Raptor had an entire engine change, not just the oil pan.
@@AStanton1966 So your saying your oil pan leaks? I'm just trying to figure out what problem the composite pans actually cause, because no one seems to specify. Also, I think the Ford Raptor had an entire engine change, not just the oil pan.
I use mobile 1 platinum oil and Wix oil filter which I did a lot of research on and it appears to be the best out there I also had a quart of best line oil additive which seems to smooth everything out really well. Oil stays way cleaner longer.
If you have a Costco near by, this channel called project farm did a video comparing Amazon oil to mobile one and they are the same. Amazon oil is made by warren company who also makes super tech and Kirkland oil
Don't worry about the oil drain plug being "cheap" looking. It was all engineered to be as it was. Much better off replacing the inexpensive factory oil plug every 1 or 2 oil changes than having to change the o rings on a metal plug that will end up stripping out the plastic oil pan and creating a leak that will ruin your engine.
See some haters on Supertech Walmart oil. It meets the same qualifications as the other oils. The most important thing on oil is to replace every 5K. Frequent oil changes are the secret to engine longevity. 10K oil changes 👎, 5K oil changes 👍, and any clean oil is better than dirty oil! Been a supertech oil user for 20+ years, never had an engine failure. Sold my son my ‘93 Silverado with 250,000 miles, he drove it to 385,000 miles on original engine, with no overhauls. Same for transmission. When he was done with it, he sold to some else. Supertech (and an assortment of brands) oil changes done at 5K intervals.
Well you inspired me to do my own oil change that I had been putting off because I thought that oil plug would spell oil everywhere. I did back the plug out slowly and it was easy to control the flow of oil coming out didn’t spill a drop. And depending on how level of surface you have, the oil filter will spill a little bit to the front or to the back off of that silver pan attached to the cross member. Thanks!
I initially used the 5w-20 PUP, but after a ton of research went to the 5w-30 PUP. In the early 2000’s Ford switched from 5w-30 to 5w-20 to help meet CAFE standards. After going to 5w-30 my 18 5.0 was much quieter. I’ll trade a tenth of a MPG for 25% more film strength.
Is yours using any oil?
@@curtis1951 maybe a quarter of a quart every 5k. But my catch can is catching a good bit of that so it’s really barely burning any if at all.
I too went to 5w-30 as well truck seems to be smoother too.
@@Annihilator105 I just recently went to 0w-40. Still super quiet and still get the same fuel economy.
@@Bushy556 nice! Yeah it’s good stuff easy flow on cold and good protection at operating temp. What brand of oil?
When I change mine I hold the plug slightly in so I can control the flow of the oil so it doesn’t get all over everything. Takes a little longer but makes way less of a mess. I always change my plugs every other oil change and I keep the previous as a spare.
You got the idea to hold the drain plug from my video?
Next time you drain your oil. Put some aluminum Foil over the steering bar so when the oil drains out the foil keeps the bar from getting messy. After your done draining the oil just get rid of the foil.
I use 10-30 Mobil one with Motocraft or wix filters
Thanks for the video
You must be pretty tall as I can't even reach my 2019 F150's dipstick lol Great job on video!
Lol Thanks a lot!!
I use amsoil on all my vehicles, also a catchcan system helps keep the oil vapor out of the air intake, turbos and intercooler.
98 F150 4.6 purchased with 7 miles, sold with nearly 240,000. Valvoline, Castrol or Mobil One full synthetic with K&N filter, never had engine issues. Now I have a 2016 F150 nearing 145000, same oils & filters. Same with 2015 Focus, 2.0, full syn plus K&N, 110000 miles thus far and still 31.6 mpg, too I'm mindful of where I buy fuel.
I have the 5.0 in my 2016 F150 Lariat and I also use Pennzoil Full Synthetic 5W20 but I use the Pennzoil “Ultra” Full Synthetic. It’s a step above the regular full synthetic that you just used. It’s not available on any shelf in any store so purchasing it online is the only choice.
Also, the oil filter that I use is the WIX 57502XP which is designed for “full synthetic oil”.
We get the ULTRA by the boat loads up here in Canada. Our Canadian Tire store usually has 25-40 5l jugs on the shelf in stock at any given time, plus it goes on sale half off every couple months.
@@dragoslav3859 It rarely goes on sale online here in the US and when it does, it’s usually close to $21.00 dollars for a 5 quart container but the normal price is just shy of $25.00 dollars for a five quart container via Walmart online which offers the best price.
I usually check online weekly for a sale and when it pops up, I’ll purchase 9 of the above mentioned containers.
The best price for the filter I mentioned is from RockAuto or CARiD and they usually run close to $7.00 dollars each. I’m sure up in Canada, the prices are definitely higher
Just wanted to say on your comment about viscosity…yep it’s true that the older engines took a much thicker oil…however, the 5.0L Coyote would blow them out of the water performance-wise.
I had the oil consumption issue in my 2019 and I ended up getting the free ford upgrade tsb throttle body reflashing to which Ford uses to improve this and stop the throttle body from opening too much, also they improved it by using the 2015 5.0 mustang pcv valve which has a checkerboard breather hole unlike the original that was completely open causing oil to burn and the final part of that tsb, tech service bulletin is to install the longer oil dipstick to reflect the upgraded changes to the engine. It did fix the issue! It's fine now!
exactly.. u said it for me.. how many people are putting to much oil in because of the short dipstick just to blow it into the intake better get a catch can even for normally aspirated engine
Ultra Platinum 5w30 for me. 2019 F150 5.0
Since 2021, Ford now specifies 5w-30 oil for all of their 5.0L engines.
And they have all but abandoned 20w oil even in their smaller engines.
my 2015 F150,5.0 hit 95K this week....Its needs it 100K service,so far I (DIY) have changed belts,plugs,front wheel bearings,tranny service ,coolant,rear diff,cabin and air filters,Rotors and pads ... I use Mobile one and a wix filters on every vehicle I own ..... Since you cant get a new one Ill have to hang on to my old 2015
Great video! I just downsized from an f-250 to a 2020 f-150. I just didn’t need the f2 it was too big and I never pulled anything a half ton couldn’t pull but anyway I have the 5.0 engine and as soon as i bought it i started seeing things about 18-20 oil consumption with the new 5.0 engines... I’m very worried about it and hope mine doesn’t do it or gets better over time it’s brand new with only 400 miles so i haven’t checked the oil level yet but I will at about 1000 miles. Please keep us updated on your next oil change to see if yours has stopped or gotten better.
I believe the 2020 have a first gen motor and I’ve heard a lot of people having this problem. At least you are under warranty for some time yet.
Switch to 5w-30 and drive it hard to break it in. Also use Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w-30. Mine went to using a quart every 5k to basically nothing after the switch to this oil.
I have the 2020 F-150 5.0, and it uses oil too. I’m going to do my own oil change this time and add some oil stabilizer to it. Hopefully that’ll help.
Newer engines have much tighter tolerances then older ones thats why they use lower weight oil. Also for fuel efficiency. If you put to heavy a weight oil in a newer engine it won't be able to circulate as well.
Baloney....Ford spec's low viscosity motor oil because it improves gas mileage (marginally).
They don't care if 20W causes your engine to wear-out prematurely.
I have a 5.0 Coyote in my truck and run Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10-30.
My son has used the same oil in his 2012 5.0L F150 from day 1, and it has 188,000 miles on it. His truck still runs like new and doesn't burn oil. The best two oil filters are Mobil 1 Extended Performance and Wix XP, both are rated at 20,000K miles.
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2016 f150 5.0 I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w20. Walmart generally has the best price on this oil and use the rebate program from Pennzoil when available. Wix XP filter. Cost is around $35.00 per change using premium oil and filter. Never had any consumption issues. I have also used the Motorcraft FL500S filter and never had a problem. Manual calls for 7.7qts.
目how is this program?
I like how you poured oil on the anti drainback valve then just dumped it out when you went to put it on
With modern synthetic oils, I change 5k intervals in turbo applications (my 3.5 eco) and 7.5k intervals in my NA engines (V6 Tacoma)
3k intervals in a 5.0 is way too early, imo
I get the “oil is cheap” argument. But most people only keep their trucks to 100k miles. Even with 10k mile changes, ittl go 250k minimum
Pennzoil ultra platinum it’s better than Mobil. It’s made 100% natural gas and have higher durability on turbo heat. Olso with Pennzoil you not going to have oil consumption.
It’s highly recommended for eco boost engines to have good quality oil and change every 6000 miles
I’ve always used Pennzoil. Used it in the 05 scion xB that I had too lol, but also used it in the 2017 Mustang GT I had and now in my 2018 F150 5.0L
I found your video very informative, although I may have missed it but I was waiting for you to tell us how many quarts of oil you use in that 302? Nick
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, and at 2000k miles on the oil I lost over a qt. Truck is a 2020. Waiting for dealer to call me back.
So you only put 5 quarts on it? The owners manual says 8.85 quarts. Wow
8.85 quarts for the v8 engine. This is the 3.3 v6
@@Tevon93 no dude, that's a fuckin 5.0 v8 under the hood lol look at the intake manifold, it has 8 ribs, one for each cylinder
Very good video I just traded my 2015 f150 on 2021 Silverado biggest mistake ever I just don't like it but it is what it is
Does dad know you used his expensive microfiber towel to twist on that oily filter? Where is my discount code for the metal oil plug, I'm not dropping $50 on an oil plug.
Yeah, I cringed a little when he used what looked like a pretty high-end micro fiber drying towel to do that.
I use nothing but Penzoil Ultra platinum full synthetic in my fleet of vehicles. Have for years and never had a problem. Best oil in my opinion. Also I only use wix/Napa oil filters.
I think there is a TSB on the oil problem where they change the dipstick, add extra oil, or the correct amount of oil and do a reprogram.
They made the holes in the dipstick an inch further apart.
Not a solution!
@@gordonlasiter9566 Yes, it's very sad that Ford calls this a fix. The marks between add and the full is around 3 qts. Glad I researched the issue before I bought one. I bought the 2.7.
@@christopherm7702 the 2.7 is great but has oil pan gasket issues(ive had it replaced twice, on the third time ford said i have to pay, its over 1000 installed cuz its like a 6 hours job or something)
@@joeykimball5705 Do you have the 4wd model? 6 hours seems a little excessive. I would buy the ford part and have an independent install or do it myself. Plastic oil pans are another stupid design by ford. Thanks for the reply!
Christopher M it doesn’t fix it, there is also a software update, it doesn’t fix it either. It’s a design flaw that Ford needs to acknowledge but wont
I have a 2018 Escape 2 liter eco boost. I use Rotella gas truck 5W30, great stuff...
Nice! I have heard great things about Rotella. Thanks for sharing!
Have you seen Ford's TSB for the oil consumption issue? They have a flash for the truck to reduce vacuum when you take your foot off of the throttle. I guess it is making too much vacuum and sucking oil up into the intake manifold. They also install a different dipstick.
Ya that flash will do absolutely nothing. There is a bigger issue and ford will never admit it
08 mustang Bullitt well mine has a few thousand miles and the oil hasn’t moved yet so looking good so far.
They changed the dipstick to be able to add a quart more and to help diminish the obvious fact that it's consuming. I read that in 2018 they used spray in plasma ark sleeves instead of metal sleeves to save 8lbs of weight. imagine 2021 they get cylinder deactivation... FORD cutting costs and building GMC reputable trucks now.
Gerry Buffett They also changed the pcv. My truck has yet to use any oil. I keep an eye on it and do my own services.
@@Doug_Morgan Good to know. Thanks.
Good video I liked it I wish you would’ve shown where the oil pours out from when you remove the filter someone said it pours to the front other people said it pours to the back. I have a 2019 with 5.0 Same thing almost no oil consumption but I don’t tow with it.
Just put a rag under the drain in the back and it will come out of the front. It is a plastic piece so there is some give.
Just changed the oil in my truck (2019 f150 5.0L), when removing the filter there's a funnel built into the metal plate below the filter that directs any oil that comes out towards the front driver side. If you reach under and feel around you will see it directly underneath the filter. Hope this helped.
CommandoJoe How’s yours truck holding up so far? I’ve got the 5.0 and hope it holds up for me.
@@haddonsmith345 Holding up great so far. Ticked 4300 miles so it's still being broken in, in my opinion. Haven't had any issues with anything, other than an extremely minor paint defect I found before I bought the truck. I work for Ford in the paint dept., I guess I just see them a little differently and know where issues would be. Back on subject though, I haven't had an issue burning oil yet, that was supposed to be fixed after the 2018 models. I guess we'll find out more when we tick over 10-15k miles and see for ourselves. Good luck with your truck and congrats on it! Thanks for supporting my line of work.
I use only 5w30 on my 5.0 now have 85k miles, also Shell
I was more impress at how big your garage is!
Haha thanks my friend! It definitely comes in handy that’s for sure!
JUST CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARLY ! people just don't care about oil change.....
Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
A defect that Ford won't admit to? They literally have a TSB out on it. Not that it inspires confidence in Ford's reliability, but they've at least acknowledged it.
All Scotty Kilmer says has one assumption, that is you DON'T BABY your vehicle. For example, what leads to many transmission failures is you step on the brake pedal when waiting for traffic light. After years of this operation, the transmission will surely break down. If you put into neutral while waiting the light, and put back into drive when light turns green, I bet very few people will have transmission problems.
I’m bothered that Scotty recommended the 5.0L V8 if he knew they used oil. He said to get the V8 and avoid the EcoBoost.
Nice video , do you rotate your tires yourself as well if so what intervals and how do you Jack it up. Thanks
I have 2018 ford F-150 which i will get oil changed on tomorrow. I will take to dealership and let them have the honors. They recommend Motorcraft synthetic blend 5-30. I run Penzoil synthetic in wife's car with no problems.
nice video. Quik question, but what is the benefit of the metal plug replacement?? Does it allow a quick mess free oil change? Or?? Just curious. I like the fact that you used good quality oil!! Nice...
It allows for a better flow of the oil when you drain it, Ronins plug also has a magnet at the end of their plug to catch any small metal particles as well. It’s worth every penny!
@@jaredf.8712 ... thanks for the reply. I'm hoping that you can get an O-ring replacement for that metal plug. I fear that after 3 or 4 oil changes, the O-ring might start leaking. Something to keep in mind.
@@biz4twobiz463 i hear you, i would imagine you could always get a replacement one after a few oil changes for “just in case” purposes. I agree with you there. It is a upgrade from the stock yellow plug though.
I use that particular weight Pennzoil full syn in 19 jeep 5.7, 0w20 full syn 19 jeep 3.6 and motorcraft 5w20 blend in our lincolns and Fords.. plus Castrol 5w20 blend HM aswell ..but I probably had the best results over the years and many vehicles with motorcraft
0w30 and FL820s , adds a half quart of oil
At least you have a regular oil filter. I hate that Ford is doing the cartridge thing on some models.
Maybe I’m blind buy can you please give the sourcing info on the metal drain plug?
Oil weight has no correlation to engine size. Why would you think that just because it's a V8 it needs 15w-40? (I know you didn't say that) Engineers specify oil weight that will lubricant the small nooks and crannies of certain internal engine parts best. That was a huge issue with 5.4 tritons. They would start ticking because people were putting heavier weight oil. The timing chain tensioner needed a certain psi to operate right and was using the oil as its hydraulic fluid. Because people were using thicker weights the psi wasn't right causing failures.
The early tensioners had poorly designed gaskets and blew out causing low oil pressure and eventually destroying the guides, cams and the rest of the engine. Nothing to do with the weight of the oil. The only reason for the 5W-20 recommendation was to meet gas milage standards. They ran fine on heavier weight oil.
Thank you for the great video. Like the chrome 🤪
thats in insane twist out plug
Schaffers synthetic for the win!
I use Motorcraft synthetic blend like my owners manual says to.
Congratulations
I've been using valvoline with Purolator one filter. Recently switched to napa platinum filter.
thanks for the great video. i always wanted to try this.
My 2018 with 34,000 miles is in the middle of an “oil consumption” test. I must add 2 qts after 1500 miles from day one. Got the run around and fed BS until I finally read the procedure Ford put out which acknowledges the issue. It was a ford dealers shop bulletin. Step 14 says to change engine, send old engine in for analysis. Some people are getting “lemon law” judgements and trading them back to dealer. Look it up, it’s a real issue. Ford is my favorite but the 2018 5.0 is of very poor design.
My 2020 F-150 5.0 has that same problem. They already performed the TSB for it and it didn’t help. I’m going to start putting oil stabilizer in it.
I bought the ronning plug and a 5/8" hose, soooo worth it!!!
I just bought the same one, but haven't installed it yet. How has it preformed? Any leaks or damage to the oil pan?
We use 0 weight, this engine requires light weight, also wait to long to change, timing chain advance will kick on.
The oil that came in your truck from the factory should have stayed in much longer than 2900 miles. (no less than 5000 miles) The break-in period is very important. The oil that came in your truck was the biggest part and most important of the break-in period. The oil put in new engines from the factory is break-oil. Extremely crucial for the piston rings to have that oil for proper seating. Doing the correct break-in on an engine will prevent blow-by which causes oil consumption. As an engine machinist of 30 years... DO NOT DRAIN BREAK-IN OIL TOO EARLY
Castrol 5w-20w Magenta Full Synthetic. It beat Shell Platinum in a wear bearing test, and temperature test.
I'm going to check it out. Look into testing for Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, not just the platinum. It is probably one of the best and would match up to the oil your mentioning. Not many people know the ultra platinum because you have to special order it.
@@christopherm7702 Good choice on the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum!
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Oil and oil filter talk is so funny, every body is a engineer.Most of us have no clue
What drain plug did you replace it with, I'm curious?
Quick chat: has anyone with the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 V8 have the oil consumption issue fixed or disappear? Or had the oil consumption issue never appear at all?
I have a 19, never had an issue. I think people have overblown the issue.
ya, replaced the engine with a 2017 year with no plasma cylinder sleeves! alternative fix, Sell the truck.
Yes, as below, after 3 dealership trips I’ve had no further consumption issues. Currently 16k miles.
@@daviddion3731 What year do you have ? did they do the recent service bulletin consumption fix on it
Your one of the lucky ones my 18 has 35xxx miles on it with 2 motors in it both are oil burners.
the plug is suppose to click going in 7.5 qts
You’re supposed to drive the car first and get the oil hot, gets more contaminates out of the engine when you change it. I use Supertech full synthetic 5W30 from Walmart, $14 for a 5 quart jug, can’t beat it for the price.
The video helped me. Thank you!
Oil filter location is just like the 04 to 08 model
More room in there than my 2001
They are super roomy!!
You should always change your oil when the engine is warmed up. I noticed you took the drain plug out with your bare hand. I was taught that a hot or warmed engine is ideal for extracting more oil than a cold engine
It doesn't matter nearly as much as some people like to believe.
Synthetic oils pour out at the same rate in cold or warm engines
The point of doing a change with warm oil is to suspend any particulate in the oil and off the bottom of the pan and valleys to ensure you get the most debris out. This is true and you need not be a scientist to make sense of it
I use mobil 1 0w40 full synthetic oil for all my vehicles. In hot summer, it won't dilute due to the heat, and in cold winter it flows well. 5w20 in my eyes, is water. The only reason many manufacturers recommend 5w20 or this is the only type of oil "approved", is because this super thin oil will help achieve better gas mileage in their test, which is purely political and bureaucratic crap.
The 5.0 v8 generates so much heat that the 5w20 of course can't handle, so that's why many people complain about oil consumption problems. I have Japanese cars, German cars, and with no exception, mobil 1 0w40 works the best. If I had a performance car like BMW M3, I would go for 10w50. But for non-performance vehicles, 0w40 will be the best choice.
BTW, I don't even take a look at manufacturer manual stuff, because I know it must be bullshit.
Can I use a 5w-30 as well? Seems to be the standard for V8
@@jesusjimenez3766 yes. Won’t hurt a thing. I use it in mine.
Interesting that the V8 is 5W-20 my edge with a 2.0 ecoboost is 5W-30
Most of the Ecoboost engines run 5W-30 simply because they run hotter than a NA engine like the 5.0 V8.
I have an 18 5.0 and it's got 28000km sorry Canadian measurement. It's at the dealership as I'm writing this.2000km after oil change and it's 1/2 on the dipstick. Also 2nd time for transmission rattle.Keep your receipts.I read sleeveless blocks for gen 3.Could it be the cause?
Had mine in 2x for rattle. First time they told me they didn't hear anything. Now it's worse and they told me it was spark knock and to use high octane. It's definitely the transmission. 3 tanks of high octane in and it still rattles.
Upgrade to mustang brown pcv valve for oil usage!
I use pliers n slowly turn it to get it off today i made a rookie mistake n didnt check that the mobil 1 filter didnt have a gasket so when i turn the truck on covered everything in oil smh n had to re do it again sigh but my mistake I didn’t check I normally use motor craft filter but they didn’t have it i should of checked if it had the gasket
On my german vehicles I either use castrol or liqui moly. On my domestic vehicles, I use castrol, royal purple, or valvoline. Honestly most oils nowadays are so darn good that as long as they say SN or SN PLUS on the back, they're good for basically any gasoline vehicle. Sure some are better than others, but the differences are almost negligible from oil to oil if you're not driving like a maniac.
My 2019 with 16,000 miles the plastic oil plug started leaking today what were they thinking.
Did this truck come with the tray or diaper that you have to drop down, to get to the oil drain plug? My 2018 f150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost had a metal plug.
should u re use that ford plastic garbage plug chepo cutting corners
Awesome!
Thanks bro!
I use Mobil 1 in my Honda and Harley Davidsons.
Changed an oil pan on an 09 f150 because someone stripped threads out of pan. It was NOT a fun job... Had to remove a lot of parts to get at it.
Can't strip out the pan threads with a plastic cap, right? Haha
I use the Walmart Super Tech full synthetic 5w-30 in my 2.7 Ecoboost with oem filter.
OEM filter is always the best way to go no matter what oil you get!
Please don't use that garbage. Super Tech is one of the worst oils you can use. If you cared about your truck, you wouldn't do the bare minimum
@@oudude27 Why is Super Tech bad?
@@KDub57 it's bottom grade oil. I understand most people.ate on a budget but try to to shorthand your transportation
@@oudude27 Just because it's among the least expensive motor oil out there doesn't mean it's bad or "bottom grade." It meets the latest API standards. Most engines will run perfectly fine on it.
So did oil separator works apparently
Does your truck burn any oil?
Your dad is right.
I used the Pennzoil full synthetic oil in my 2017 Mustang GT performance pack and now using the sam on my 2018 F150 XLT 5.0L
What do you all think about the conversation about Fully Synthetic Oil on DeBoss Garage channel recently? (I believe they were talking specifically for naturally aspirated engines).
Interesting conversation, I enjoyed listening to it. Their clarifications/conclusions mirrored my own experience in the industry: To give your engine the best chance at a long, happy life, just run the right viscosity oil and change it at the proper interval (about every 3k miles for older engines, about every 5k for newer).
Any argument beyond that, i.e. conventional vs synthetic, amsoil vs super tech, additives vs no additives...all of these topics are either splitting hairs, or they really only matter in specific scenarios.
Short drives burns oil
i have a 2015 f150 5.0 and still use mobil one , alot of young people dont put the correct amount of oil and then blame the engine for failure
Do you put all 8 quarts
@@darkhoasi7k118 i put 7quarts and half of another quart, then drive it to the corner store , add what it tells you on the dipstick , between the 3-4 months or 3000 miles depending on your use or oil , check it once just to make sure and peace of mind , im coming up to 200k miles no issues with the coyote 5.0
@@jtjtrs8806 "a lot of young people" ...hey man, whatever makes you feel superior
@@KDub57 oh oh i guess you felt it , by me saying young people! Superior !! 🤣
Amsoil Signature Series.
what oil plug did he use for a replacement. I'm trying to find a good metal oil plug to replace the stock plastic yellow one.
Ronin has a great plug replacement, you can find them on Amazon!
Yes ronin is better than the other brands because you can use a clear tube to drain oil plus don't have to take the plug out, you just screw in a piece that has a nibble on the end which is what a tube can connect to if you want
Want to change mine this week and have about 3200 miles on it. Is switching to synthetic too early?
I switched mine over to synthetic at my 1st change around 2,500 miles or so. Done 3 changes total and I am at 10k miles now with no issues.
I have 1,000 miles on my 2020. Changing the crappy oem oil out with a amsoil and filter, also checked for oil blowby in the pcv tubes, they looked oil free.
I think these motors should have a catchcan system to catch the oil and fuel vapor before ingesting it in the air intake system and coating the turbos, intercooler and intake valves with oil vapor.
@@gordonlasiter9566 The PCV valve connects directly to the crankcase, so having the PCV tubes looking "oil free" on a 1000 mile engine doesn't really mean anything.
How often should you change oil and do anyone use the built in oil life indicator?
I do 5k miles...
I use Moble1 or Motorcraft, I wouldn't use Pennzoil if it was free. Also, do you think using a metal drain plug in a plastic oil pan is a good idea?
where did you get the chrome hood protector?
Where did you find the metal plug??
CJ Pony parts!
UPR sells metal oil plugs as well as ronin. Those metal oil plugs are a great way to prevent a mess due to ability to attach a siphon hose to the nipple to control where the oil drains too.
Don't do it. They leak and will damage the oil pan drain plug lungs inside the oil pan which is plastic. So adding a metal(Aluminum) drain plug into a plastic oil pan, guess which one will degrade first? Also, if you end up having a oil consumption/leak or engine issue they will use this to void your warranty.
I can't believe Ford putting those plastic oil, transmission pans, and plugs on their $50,000 plus vehicles. What the heck are they smoking? I have a Mustang V-6 and enjoy it. However, I would upgrade in a heartbeat to a Mustang GT if Ford went back to metal pans.
What exactly is wrong with a composite pan? Is there a reason it “needs” to be metal? Does it hold oil better if its metal?
The better question is why go to a composite pan when metal has been tried and proven? Metal and plastic are 2 dissimilar materials. Wherever you have that in nature, you always have a potential for problems with leaks. Hey, I'm no engineer. However, Ford's Raptor pick ups had the plastic pan for a time. They have since gone back to metal. Why?
So your saying your oil pan leaks? I’m just wondering exactly what problems they cause because no-one seems to specify. And the Ford Raptor had an entire engine change, not just the oil pan.
@@AStanton1966 So your saying your oil pan leaks? I'm just trying to figure out what problem the composite pans actually cause, because no one seems to specify. Also, I think the Ford Raptor had an entire engine change, not just the oil pan.
I use mobile 1 platinum oil and Wix oil filter which I did a lot of research on and it appears to be the best out there I also had a quart of best line oil additive which seems to smooth everything out really well. Oil stays way cleaner longer.
If you have a Costco near by, this channel called project farm did a video comparing Amazon oil to mobile one and they are the same. Amazon oil is made by warren company who also makes super tech and Kirkland oil
I use this oil Motorcraft
Switch to 5w30
Hey Chief... I hate to tell you this, but my 2019 takes between 8 and 9 quarts. One five quart bottle isn't going to do it.
Don't worry about the oil drain plug being "cheap" looking. It was all engineered to be as it was. Much better off replacing the inexpensive factory oil plug every 1 or 2 oil changes than having to change the o rings on a metal plug that will end up stripping out the plastic oil pan and creating a leak that will ruin your engine.
I use full synthetic Mobil one 5w-20 and Mobil one oil filter. Put 30k miles on this year
Never once explained how many quarts you use. Not even sure the point of your video??
The 5.0 is more oil cooled than air cooled. That is why it uses more oil. You"ll notice the radiator is smaller than in older engines
So what you're is that regular oil changes are extremely important even than before
How many quarts did you put in the engine?
he never answered you but it sure seemed like he used 10 quarts! lol I was mostly bummed that he didn't start that sweet sounding engine up!
I guessed he put 5. There was one jug in the yard
Well, I happen to find out that it needs to get 8.8 quarts of oil.
@@damnedmonkey01 wow!
What mirrors are those?
Tow mirrors with chrome covers!