Akai Mpc 2000 XL VS Classic 2000
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2022
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Thanks for the vid on the 2KXL Marow.
I use it solely as the centerpiece for my desk as a midi controller controlling other hardware samplers like the SP-404MK2, MS-1, and vsts.
I may resample into it from time to time but, to me the power is in using it to sequence gear, vsts, and the MPC software.
Great video Marlow 👑
Great video. love to listen to you
ive had my classic for probably 4 or 5 months now. as someone who makes ambient music, drum and bass, house, sampled hiphop and more, the classic is pretty great. 32 MIDI tracks for sequencing hardware, easy track mutes. i have everything run into my classic, records, my other samplers, drum machines, and synths, it's a very utilitarian and useful piece of equipment
There is only one feature of the xl I would like to have on my classic 2000: Adjusting the sample start and endpoint with shift & Fader. Other than that I'm pretty happy with the 2000.
I use an external MO Drive with 230MB disks. The 2000 can format this disks with up to 20 partitions. So I use partitions as folders 😎
MPC2000XL head for life. Slow and steady beat making.
Dope vid Marlow. i just got me a mpc 2000 recently. I got to do a little work to it but totally excited to own a classic. I've owned the 4000&1000 ,sp1200.
beautiful sampler, definitely gonna enjoy it
Marlow this is a great video! I would love to see more XL vs. 2K videos!
Thanks Ross. Beatmaking videos or talking about them?
@@mpchead of course! And both? I know that can be a ton of work but I throughly enjoy how you talked about the machines in this one, and I love how you make beats!
I love the 2kxl. I love it's sound, I love the workflow, I use the MIDI to control two synths and it does everything that I want it to do. I actually wanted to get a 2k originally but my friend, RIP, had a 2kxl and he told me that the upgrade was worth it so I swapped a S2k sampler for the MPC2kxl. Never regretted it and love the 2kxl.
Love my classic. Iv owned an xl before too & the only thing I miss from that is the zone chopping & saving in folders
Yeah I d say those are the two biggest differences
From my prior experience, the 2000 seems to have a cleaner sound engine when it comes to sampling from CDs in particular. 2000xl sounds slightly lower in the high end. Cant tell from low end but I definitely hear the difference playing older beats made on the 2K vs 2kxl. Both are fantastic machines but I use the XL now with that tilting screen. Great comparison.
To me the 2KXL doesn't really have a particular sound, I use mine in a very different way than yours.
They're really simple machines, they forces you to go straight to the point and I love that !
Cheers' Marlow !
The jog wheel on the 2k is better to me than the 2kxl imo
It’s about making beats not about jogging🤣
Great video, Marlow. Vu Beats is very cool. I saw his MPC One vs. 2000XL sound difference video and maybe it's because I'm a novice and my ear isn't trained like you or many of your subscribers but I really couldn't hear that much of a difference between the two. Anyways, thank you for the video. Blessings.
There is not much difference trust your ears and dont read these biased comments
@@jovantrendmaker4722 Thanks, Jovan. It seems that everyone is dug in with their opinions and they are all over the place. Blessings!
Yeah. It's something you don't miss if you never had it. If your a new Beat maker Producer you want the newer MPCs. But if you can add one of these to the arsenal afterwards that would be great.
idk if its in my head but i swear forever the classic sounds better
MARLOW DIGS!!
Good video
I just got the 4000, 1000, and the s3000xl (the cd version).... The MPC X spoiled me although I been making beats since 1994 with the Korg X3 and the ASR 10 .. fast forward to 2024 and I will still say vintage is the difference between fast food and a home cooked meal made with love.. 🤔🎹🎹
For me 2000xl is much slower than 2000 classic. I don't know why but 2000xl feels pretty laggy.
I got burned screen in 2kxl and I got perfect one in 2000 classic. It's the same screen but cable in 2k classic is shorter so You can't swap it :(
@@vubeatz the cables are also reversed on both machines so they don't fit on the other machine.
The screen burn is fixable but it is a pita. Otherwise there are screen replacements available. I only have one left for the 2K classic for now.
@@vubeatz I need to change the screen on my 2kxl as well. It's a known problem but the new replacement doesn't burn out like the original does
For learning sample manipulation the MPC 2000XL is the king of awesome thump!
I love the OG 2000
Major differences to me were xl sounded cleaner than the flat 2k, tilt screen, track mute, and the biggest most important difference is the file management. The xl is so much nicer for storage and access. The xl can be upgraded easily with an SD card which is so much better than floppies. Floppies are awful. Parts are easier to find for the xl too. Of course you might as well get a Live than either of those. An xl or 2k is pretty much the same price as a Live and it is light years better than and previous mpcs. My opinion of course. Nice video Marlow.
Agreed on getting a modern MPC over the old ones. Only thing I would change is I'd say you can rock with a MPC One even better. The MPC One has more shortcut keys and it's easy to get down on. I pair mine with a Tascam Model 12 and it's a lot of fun to make music on....plus the MPC One is pretty low price for what you're getting in return.
so can you install sd cardreader in the mpc 2000? in the XL it was quite easy, would like to know how this is in the 2000...
XL and ckassic have exactly the same track mute. Just hit Open Window on the Classic from the Track on/off field.
Yo @Marlow Digs thanks for doing this video. I’ve been rocking with the 2000XL since the beginning of the year, shout out to STLNDRMS. With that said what SD card reader are you using?
I need to take this Gotek Floppy emulator out so I can start saving my projects. So far I have to just commit to a final recording.
I got if from Mpcstuff, have it for years now and it works great.
I always liked the way to chop on the 2k the most. even tho on the xl it‘s easier, but the 2k gave me that feeling that I really listen to every single part of sample. on the xl it‘s so fast to chop, that you might miss something out…
Agree
Wish there was a high pass filter and I wish there was a way to resample sounds internally, but I love my 2000xl.
Would be interesting to deep dive into FX board possiblities!!!
No difference in sound like people say xl just have more options. I need timestretch shift + slider for samples tilted screen no boot disc and wav files thats why i love my 2000xl. Color scheme is betrer on 2000 imo
The classic also uses WAV files. So many myths about the classic based on the original manual. Read the addendums.
I've had 2 instances of 'wrong file format' on my 2kxl w/ the SD Card reader. It didn't result in the entire disk needing to be wiped (along w/ everything on it), but deleting the folder w/ the bad files straightened it out. Lost about 10-20 beats but have them recorded so they live on in this format now.
So i had an xl and it died on me a few years ago and i just replaced it yesterday with an og 2000 I was initially concerned about going from an xl to an og but now im excited.
2000xl is better because of the organization factor!! Plus I still my zip100 attached to mine and still works. The 2000xl was a great upgrade to the 2000!!!
Cool man 💣👌 I own both and love them. The XL has a good sound but the 2000 classic pumps and pushes like a bull. The XL has the better file system, you can create folders, easily upgrade to CF, SD card reader, as well as some useful features. I find the workflow quicker and easier on the classic, especially when I chop manually. But that's just my opinion. Peace Yoar
I had those exact same models (the same mcd xl blue version here) imo the 2000 classic easily sounded better & the XL timing felt tighter to me
you should do a video comparison on 16 levels with tuning. a friend has the classic and i have the XL. the Xl time stretches the sound with each pad. on the classic it doesnt time stretching so some pads play faster then others. when doing bass it can be a hassle
Facts
I just save the OS and setup template to the scsi2sd drive. Also see a lot of people saying they have to use floppies on the 2000 classic. The 2k is a bit like the Roland s760 I have. If you sace a sample called kick 1 for example, the next project you start, if you name the kick the same it will say to overwrite when saving. So I just put a number for the project at the start of each sample. 1kick1, 1snare1 etc and for a new project 2kick1, 2snare1 etc and so on. Just name the sample quickly with the pads after sampling in. No need for floppies.
I actually did see a video that basically details how to get around the zone chopping issue with the original 2k which is pretty genius. just search chopping on mpc 2k, 60
It's using the velocity with 16 levels.
I really need a mpc2000xl
would love to see a video on how you track out your beats
I don't, I just do the best I can in the mpc and then master it straight out the outputs into the daw.
@@mpchead raw natural performance....very interesting thanks
How hard is it to learn a old school mpc coming from a new one like the live/x?
Not hard but you'll come across many features that simply don't exist in the older mpcs.
Here’s the major difference between the two machines, and it’s huge: say you make a drum kit and save it- later on you make some chops and think, “I’ll load in that drum kit and play it along with these chops”. On the XL you can do it, on the Classic you can’t. Similarly, there’s no point in making a multisample instrument like a bass on the Classic and thinking you can load it up to play along with other kits or multisampled instruments. You can do that on the XL, not the Classic.
You touched on this when you said the Classic can only have one active program and the XL can have four, but the consequences of that make these machines very very different in their capabilities, as illustrated in my examples.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼
Yeah, the OS thing is kinda ridiculous with the classic. That's why I think using an SCSI2SD of some kind is a must and it allows you to manage files better and quicker. Personally I wish the 2000 had actual complete ADSR and not some "AD" compromise.
2kclassic only! 😐
Honestly the only thing I wish the classic had that the xl has is the ability to use different programs for different sequences. I believe you can use up to 4 programs at a time.
A good work-around for this was for me to buy the 4k when it came out.🤪
Honestly I only use 1 drum program in the XL, only on the new mpcs I use different programs.
@@mpchead 🤔 interesting but I can see it. Respect as always. 😎👊🏾
the difference in sound with these two machines is when you sample records at 45 + however high your tuner goes on your turntable and pitch it back down. the classic holds on to the low end a lot better than the xl in my opinion
I tried it put on analyser and couldnt see difference
@@jovantrendmaker4722yeah because it’s sound. Stop watching trackwaves and db’s
@@paradox3470 how do you think you messure sound? Lol not just ears sorry to tell you... Analyzers are made for that
@@jovantrendmaker4722 i get you but we are talking about richer sound, how you gonna measure that
the 2000Xl work flow looks a lot closer to the 1000 work flow
Hi, what monitor is that?
Yes, but which one looks cooler?
the classic
The XL
Is that a serious question? What is beautiful or not is in the eyes of the beholder
Mpc 2000 classic fat sounding)and has lag on filter resonance)
Both machines are literally the same. The XL just has better features
No man .the 2000 classic sounds harder. I own both. The xl is a dope maschine too and has better Features ,yes agree.
The 2000 sounds better but the 2kXL is a bit more efficient
Lmao. The tilt screen. The hero worship on these machines is out of control. Find one, learn it, and in turn, learn how YOU make music. Emulating all these other people’s style will only result in stagnation.
The power of these machines is the sequencing, not the processing, not the efx. The easiest way to get the sounds you WANT in the sequence is to sample IN to the machine with the sound processed. It’s not “hard to figure out”. Only in the last 5-10 years have I heard/seen people complain about what it can’t do. But I guess there are people complaining that their hammer doesn’t drive screws too.