GET UNSTUCK. DR KWON AND LPGA HOPEFUL FIX RIGHT ELBOW. BE BETTER GOLF
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Thank-you Dr Kwon & BBG. This old man (66) went from 220 yards to 250 yards average on his drives after 6 weeks of drills. Now I use them as part of my practice and warm-up routines. I have a new perspective on golf.
This type of movement training has been transformative for my golf game
I just wanted to thank Dr Kwon and be better golf. I've been struggling with my swing for a couple of years and knew I was getting stuck and spinning out but didn't understand why until I saw this video. Thanx very much it made an instant 10 mph change in head speed with no additional practice. Looking forward to see what the drills add for speed. Stef
This is a delightful and informative series. Many thanks to BBG and especially to Dr. Kwon.
What a great looking swing and what awesome insights from Dr Kwon!
Another great video. I check YT daily for Dr. Kwon's videos 🙂Keep them coming.
Dr. Kwan. Your teaching makes lit of sense, which no other teaching pro teaches like you. You are the best!
Wow, that’s a really nice swing! And, I finally understand what it means to be “stuck”, rather than just something along the lines of the club being behind…
The scientific analysis is awesome but the beauty lies in the detail and simplicity of the drills to make the correction. Dr. Kwon and this athlete make all this seem simple - genius and talent!
I showed up for my fitting at Club Champion dressed like this and they called the police.
Lol
😂
🤣🤣🤣
That was some funny s***
That was some funny s***
If Kennedy needs to improve on that swing I’m in some serious trouble LOL. Such a beautiful and powerful swing elbow or otherwise. All the best…hope to see her on TV soon! Brendon…loving Dr. Kwon series…such a unique approach, explanations, and drills. While the basis of Dr. Keon’s is highly scientific and data-based his ability to help all of us feel what great is through these drills and exercises is a breath of fresh air. I’ve been applying the step drills in warm up and pre-swing and it has really helped me so far. I feel like I can get rid of mechanical thoughts and just let the rhythm and natural athletic motion take over which is resulting in more consistent ball striking.
Really like this learning method. Amazing detail.
I can’t wait to try this. This is the first time I came across Dr Kwan, it’s very intriguing. I can’t wait to try some of these drills.
Really good stuff
Does Dr. Kwon have any research or thoughts on chipping and pitching similar to what he’s done on the full swing?
This is exactly the instruction we need
Superb video. Love the content 👌🏻
This is amazing. Thank you
The best part of this video is how teachable Kennedy is. Absorbing like a sponge, asking good questions... bright future!
I noticed that too. Very teachable.
Agreed!
Dr. Kwon or ANY coach or biomechanic specialist can have ALL the knowledge, ALL the computer graphics that SHOW everything,
But, AT LEAST 2 more things MUST happen for this to be useful--AT ALL;
1) the Next thing Dr. Kwon must do and he did this somewhat is; create LEAD up skills or some drills that Kennedy can REALLY --FEEL AND USE, this
MUST happen so she can ACTUALLY change her swing!
2) Kennedy REALLY needs to be an active, good listener and she is trying hard in the video. She WILL NEED TIME-- to work the lead ups to integrate that
movement, she has OLDER movement patterns that WILL want to stay with her--- UNLESS-- the NEW pattern is DIFFERENT ENOUGH-- so she can really
not slip back to an old pattern that might be TOO similar!
This will take time, then she NEEDS to take it to the course and NOT WORRY about RESULTS --at first! That on course TRUST of the new pattern also needs time,
it could happen quickly-- but Kennedy - needs to stick with it. IF this is a SIGNIFICANTLY enough DIFFERENT FEEL and pattern-- Kennedy could own this pattern
quickly- BUT she won't KNOW until she is on the course and just NOT worry about scoring and work on her FEEL AND set-up that changes that feel!
Kennedy - with her OPEN mind, her strong desire to make changes, her attentiveness and most of all ---- her DISCIPLINE are the most CRUCIAL aspect of all of this!
You can tell she is into this and that is a VERY GOOD sign, and sets her up for success!
And a beautiful body!
she got a smokin body
Yeah she can have Paige Spiranac's career path
Dr.Kwon: "your arm motion is letting go". After days of performing the rope drill, I hit a couple dozen sand wedges in the back yard. I was amazed at how free my swing had become! I never experienced the arms letting go like that! I can't wait to practice the step drills with my driver more often and get out to the range when winter is over.
THIS made a lot of sense.! Thanks.
Gold! Pure gold! Dr. Kwon gets right to the issue and then helps the student make the correct adjustments by teaching concepts not positions… brilliant.
ALL VIDEOS WHO NEED TO WATCH GETTING UNSTUCK NEED TO WATCH THIS!!!!!! all other videos dont give this simplicity. Thanks for this
Wow amazing video!!
Brilliant! Best teacher I have come across
Toss up between Marcus from Zen golf and Dr. Kwon.
curious how this motion you are suggesting works with someone who can't externally rotate the shoulder joint?
Dr Kwon is no quack!!! As scratch golfer, studier of the swing and engineer the lessons with her golf swing are so interesting... Her swing is sooo good and how she able to learn moves so fast.
I wish you would do a more comprehensive video on this problem Dr. Kwon.
I am having issues getting the trail elbow in front of the body after my drift of the torso at the end of the backswing.
Love your work Doc.
Grateful Aussie.
Nice Video, thank you!
110 mph wow!!! Such an athletic swing and effortless power. I hope she makes it to the big show. There are guys on the PGA Tour who averages below 110 mph clubhead speed.
I would disagree with your PGA Tour club head speed below 110, remember the 110 wasn't her playing speed but her swing speed with out a ball. I would bet that all the current PGA Pro's under the age of 50 can swing 110 easily especailly just swing for pure speed. She probably plays at a slower swing speed, but her swing is still very atheltic.
Men of golf culture, I see we meet again!
insightful...so many people have no idea that they probably overswing and thus their elbow gets caught behind their body
I like moments when she said “Gotcha”!
Fascinating 😮 👌
Dr. Kwon is like a Wizard~~!!!! ^^bbb Always fascinating~~!!!
Let's see Kwan hit it!
Love these inquisitive videos. Her interest in her golf swing mechanics is very attractive. Also think of throwing a Frisbee - same action.
I love Dr Kwon's Face emotions!
Kennedy has some serious swing speed. Wow!
7:20 - It's not pull the lead knee back, but instead within the rhythm of the swing, kick or slightly jump with the lead leg (knee). That was a HUGE relevation for me. I tired it for a few moments, and wow. Of course getting the timing correct and keeping the spine angle is a challenge, as one part is going up (left side), while the spine angle is increasing by going down (right side).
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Brandon, is it right to say that Dr. Kwon is more of a swinger (hands close and around) as opposed to a hitter (active elbow, drive and hold)?
The dig and go drill actually keep the right arm from being left behind. With the club in hand, however, a tension must be maintained to keep the trail arm in position with the chest, but not too much to out run the torso.
Such a great lesson! Kennedy has some skills! Will be rooting for her success. Tick, Tick, Tick and Let it go!! Great Work Brendon. Thank you as always.
“Kick.”
He’s telling her to kick off the ground with the lead leg and then let it go.
A little pedantic I know. But important to understand what he’s trying to accomplish.
It looks a lot like Malaska’s push away move with the lead leg if you’ve watched a lot of B’s channel.
@@SwingLowLeft yes kick off and "shurn" though I was just making the emphasis that I enjoy Dr. Kwon's teachings. Glad you watched B's videos too.
So. I find I now have a draw to hook. So I adjust opening my stances. I use the drills in the gym and on the range. I added some other drills plus I play some ice hockey so I am really starting to feel the hamstring and glutes. When I hit a good drive it feels effortless. Letting the arms sling through the shot verse using my upper body. The rope lets you know very fast if you are using the arms, you are right about that....rope offers very good feedback if I am using my lower body.
Love the science of the body way we designed to swing
Brandon any plans for online instruction?
at 3:15 we can see exactly what Dr Kwon has found as an obstacle in her swing. Great split screen view!
I approve the idea of swinging half naked.
After seeing the dominance of Korean women golfers and the emergence of their men, this instruction is compelling. The technical brilliance of the Korean women is unmatched in the game. Clearly it is due to cutting edge instruction from men and women like Dr. Kwon. I believe the key to attaining their level is to bring their instructors over to America. Look what happened in women's gymnastics when Bela and Marta Karolyi emigrated from Romania. From doormat, to dominance on an unprecedented scale. Talent without top level instruction will always leave a player two rungs short on the ladder. Take a world class teacher, then blend it with talent and sweat. That is a gourmet recipe for success.
Good point but at what cost? The Karolyi’s were pretty abusive to their athletes.
*LOL in gears talk she needs rotation with vertical. But I'm interested in thoughts of what she does to start would open a whole other can of worms. I told you Brand own your right arm you own your swing countless times with ground forces here in Whittier.*
That reverse pivot is a killer
Interesting stuff - you would think the elbow getting stuck behind in the downswing would lead to the hands extending outward post impact, not the other way round. His demonstration at the end of the video definitely showed his hands traveling more left - the opposite of the supposed fix. The drill looks great and I bet could be useful, but I would say the risk of doing this drill without guidance is developing an out-to-in hand and club head path
She would really benefit from a training aid from Flyt Golf. It’s really more for chipping, but its a sleeve you slide onto your right arm and has a rigid plastic in it, so the whole purpose of it is to keep that right elbow much straighter. It’s not meant for full swings but it would straighten her out almost immediately.
I bought the Flyt to work on my issues associated with always bending the right elbow in chipping which would throw the elbow off plane.
Dr. Kwon gets really 'Hands on'.
Dr. Kwon (my spirit animal) explains this so well. I have been coaching for 15+ years and so many tuck that right elbow right to their side (trying to mimic what they think Hogan did). Dr Kwon hits it out of the park here!
Yes I’ve been doing that can’t wait for a range session to try this
Kennedy is going to be a superstar with that swing. Club head speed of 110?!? Wow
Shorter arm swing (right elbow less behind her back/rib cage at top), right arm feeling wide coming down and elbow moving more towards ball and not as much secondary tilt away from target into impact as shoulders feel slightly more open at impact. Seeing some GRF would be helpful for her too 👍
Jonathan! Exactly what I see. I fixed this fault in my swing and it was a game changer. That right elbow towards the camera as opposed to pointing behind her. You obviously have a great eye for this. Bam! you nailed it.
Thanks
110 mph club speed is hugely amazing for a female college student athlete！
That's why they call him the professor, thanks Brendon.
I love physics!
I am interested in San Diego class
Just love Dr. Kwon’s explanations of the swing….I don’t know if my body can get in those positions!! Let me get the chiropractor on speed dial.
EXCELLENT diagram of swing plane and release. Totally opposite to what MANY teachers teach.
Technical physics makes perfect sense. It is easy to relate to the power source now.
Many thanks for posting this VDO
May I ask how much pressure we should hold thre grip?
Good luck! Depends just like every facet of golf. Experiment. Generally if you have strong hands you can grip the club lighter without any loss of control. Make sure you have a grip that matches your swing style and grip size. You definitely do not want any tension radiating to your forearms and shoulders in your setup. Anyway you will get instructors who advocate grip pressure across the spectrum. Its very important that you can feel where the club head is in space otherwise your swing becomes too rigid and/or robotic.
It is almost like her trapped elbow in the downswing is a product of the backswing. In the DTL. video her right elbow points behind her as opposed to pointing at the camera. Do you feel she would benefit from keeping the arms more in front of body as opposed to being slung behind her torso ? This always results in a very long and across the line appearance at the top. It feels like a very powerful position but in reality it is very difficult to play from that position.
Thanks guys and gal
Yep - I really disagree with everything that was done here. Her right elbow is getting behind her, and like most women and young golfers, they are flexible and fast with their hips. Her hips start rotating before she has completed the backswing. That only further exacerbates the issue. A little less depth at the top, and a focus on shifting force to the lead leg BEFORE initiation of the turn and her elbow will no longer be stuck.
Soooooo, Dr. Kwan is saying Ben Hogan had the correct right elbow move? And for me “getting stuck” comes from turning and extension of the hips too early in the downswing....
Thank you for this, unfortunately this stuck arm and club flip is a PIA to fix. I see it and an early extension is my awful swing, LOL.
I’d like to see a follow-up with Dr. Lynn from Swing Catalyst. Dr. Kwon has done a great job, but I feel like he could be missing out on the GRF piece, which seems to be a huge piece to consider. This series has obliquely touched on forces with the step drills and so forth, but there has been little to no discussion, with measured data, around horizontal, torque, or vertical forces that you can actually do in your swing while playing golf. This has been more around “training” methods, e.g., the step drills and starting with the club forward to transfer energy in the backswing, none of which are function/take to the course things. Nice thumbnails with that booty though :) Interested to hear everyone else’s take.
I’ll meet up with Scott soon. Good point
@@BEBETTERGOLF Hey Brendon Love your Channel. You got me on the right track when I got back into the game 3.5 years Ago. Many thanks. I think you need to contact Mike Adams and or Terry Rowles of the Ultimate Golf Lesson. Have you ever been measured by these guys? The info that Dr Kwon and Scott Lynn is only part of the story. Ask both of the Drs about these guys. Mike and Terry will put the pieces together for you.
I’m glad I found Be Better Golf. Hope this info helps you.
You missed the other videos where he shows the torque and forces. Go to Dr Keon’s channel to get the full picture.
@@BEBETTERGOLF Has Dr. Kwon said how to increase the moment arm? My layman’s understanding of it is-you gotta get your center of mass behind the ball and then in the downswing, you gotta get your center of pressure well out in front of your center of mass. I suppose by pushing into the ground really hard but keeping your mass back. This sort of sounds like the traditional “X Factor” but less about turning and more about pressure. Also, Kwon seems to suggest this increases torque, but it sounds more like horizontal pressure to me (getting your center of pressure forward of your center of mass). I’d like to hear what Dr. Lynn and others have to say.
Ever watch Zen golf instructor Marcus Bell? Uses the horizontal,rotational and vertical forces with various drills and feels using a balance board, and discs. He does not teach positions but equates the golf swing to any other sport and gets you to feel the swing that is ideal for you! Really fascinating and effective approach. Watch a few videos and give me your opinion.
Let me know when you plan on doing a school in Florida!
Cool stuff, do you know where this lady swing speed was at the start of this journey?
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Thank you for the reply.
@@BEBETTERGOLF wow! So there is hope!
Let us know if you're ever doing anything in the south florida area! Preferably when all the Canadiens leave 😋😆
Now l understand why l get stuck is because l try to use my dominant right hand to "hit" rather than swinging through. Thank you!
She’s stuck because she is across the line at the top. She’s across the line at the top because her hip turn facilitates an arm swing that is too flat for the structure to form with her current sequence. Swing lead arm up the plane, not under. Set club on plane, not over. Her club set will change her sequence, improving her trailing elbow structure into impact. Love the Open Stance.
good comment...but u certainly can get terribly stuck doing what u suggested with a poor transition...
super clear and accurate.
Lots of people will think it’s the rt elbow coming into the side… but it’s the left arm with no body separation…what causes this is tension. From the mind, anticipation of the golf shot. You feel tension across the chest for some, inside the shoulders- rotator cuffs. It transmits into the biceps and down to fore arms. This stuck elbow is not the cause.. it’s an effect of tension in the body.
Gotta see this dude hit a golf ball before I listen. Been to some teachers who couldn’t even hit a ball.
I did the same thing by focusing on the shoulder rotation and guess what I got - OVER THE TOP baby. My ball went so right, I ended up in another golf course.
You are moving her elbow to “ pitch basic “
The perfect elbow portion.
Cheers F
Humm…looking at a few tour pros slow mo vids and most of the time their right elbow is behind the ‘vertical line’ drawn from the shoulder. Can you explain?
Yes. That's why the women's swings are more efficient and better for the amateur male golfers to emulate if they want to lower their handicaps.
Even pros have faults, they've instinctively compensated for them or their hand-eye coordination is so good that they make those adjustments on the fly. Also, they are so strong that swing speed is not an issue, I know I can play very well with a stuck right elbow and swing at 115 mph, but I'm always wary of pushing or hooking. The main trouble is not being able to control the face precisely because the elbow naturally shortens the radius and makes it easy for the hands to turn inside while the clubhead's inertia is following a slightly more outside path. It's a good player's problem because most of the time the contact is great.
@@jimralston4789 well you’re going on the assumption that Dr. Kwon is right about this being a “fault”. If a significant amount of tour pros possess it then it doesn’t fall into the fault category for me, sorry.
@@johnnybravo9087 You're right about that. So it becomes a matter of biomechanical theory. In theory, keeping the right elbow tight against the ribcage is not optimal, but it does do some really good things like shallowing out the downswing and promoting great contact. You can play very great golf that way especially if you've been doing it all of your life. It's just that there is a slightly more efficient way to swing, in theory at least. I can find no fault in his reasoning. I have tried to copy Hogan and others by keeping that elbow tight and it feels good but I know the potential is getting stuck or hooking. It's the swing I play with, but I would like not to have to compensate for it. You hear from so many of the great players that their main fault is getting stuck. It was what Tiger said was his main full swing fault.
@@jimralston4789 I get what you’re saying, but there is levels in sport. A mid handicapper need not worry about the outlier results of “getting stuck”. As a mid handicapper myself I am guilty of hoping that such a mechanical “fault” is my whole undoing. If Tiger could get away with it, well it probably isn’t my silver bullet! Cheers
Man, her swing already looks incredible, I’m surprised the prognosis was “stuck.” I assume her elbow wouldn’t look that much different from the DTL view with the proposed changes?
I agree. I actually stumbled on this video when looking for Jim Furyk videos, specifically his "stuck" right elbow. Seems to work for him. I wonder what he'd think of the analysis?
It would look the same but if she does what Kwon says it will go in front of her body like it would be at address and not stuck to her side
Well, I early extend, have a too long backswing and no power, hit my driver about 90mph, miss left and right, my elbow is stuck, my ankles have insufficient mobility, I can't deep squat without falling over, I have terrible balance, I have weak posture and a flabby gut. I can bench press 100 lbs in my 50s. My hips are very tight and I can't touch my toes. I have no separation between my shoulders and hips. I get a sensation of vertigo when putting. Chipping terrifies me, I usually putt. I hit 4 shanks the last time I played.
Maybe this drill will help me.
Isn’t that normal? If you are swinging up on the ball (positive AoA) your hands will be moving left while the swing direction (plane) is right of the target since you are hitting the ball after the bottom of the arc of the swing. Aka since you are contacting the ball after the bottom of the swing arc your clubhead will be moving left of the swing plane by the time you contact the ball.
Don’t get stuck to begin with. Don’t set up with the humerus to vertical and don’t let it drift.
It’s the Gotcha girl, she’s back but now says ah um ah um
I do the same thing with the elbow
So did Jack Nicklaus.
Interesting. I’ve always made note of how the great ball strikers have a bent right elbow into impact, just as this girl has, very athletic and something I’ve tried to adopt into my swing. Am I confusing this with something else?
I think elbow is getting stuck behind hip rather than being a few inches in front for better release. Fine tuning...
In good players the distance from the trail shoulder to the ball is several inches less at impact than at address. Players with good posture at address and straight trail arms at impact have raised the handle and turned with flat shoulders to avoid ploughing into the ground behind the ball (usually seen as early extention). I think your comment is very relevant to the discussion. If you look at a player like Joaquin Niemann, his trail elbow is miles behind his shoulder at P6. He also shortens the distance from his trail shoulder to the ball more than most because his shoulder turn is steeper than most. If you change the position of your elbow at P6, it has to change the position of your hands, your shoulder angle and your hand path. Even though Niemann's elbow is more than double the distance behind his shoulder at P6 (compared to the girl's before swing) he is not stuck in any sense. His trail elbow clears his hip easily (they stay back and out of the way unlike hers) and is nearly level with his belt buckle from front on as he comes into impact. The change made ito this girls swing in this lesson seems to have worked well, (it was made in the context of her hand path being well inside her club path, possibly because her hips move towards the ball in the downswing blocking her trail elbow) but like most tips, they dont apply universally. If you put Jack Nicklaus's trail elbow under his trail shoulder at P6 we might never have heard of him. Ive also never heard anyone say that he was 'stuck'. Another approach to this lesson might have been to fix her early extention to give her elbow room to pass, although this might not have changed her hand path.
3:47, you can actually see that the right arm is blocked by the body
McIlroy looks similar so it’s not that simple.
@@johnnybravo9087 compare 3:27 her elbow position right before the impact vs rory. rory seems blocked on p6 (when shaft is parallel to the ground) but it is not blocked right before the impact.
@@kimyoungun true I can see she is still a bit stuck. How does Rory get unstuck so late is the interesting thing!
@@johnnybravo9087 well, he is rory ahahah.
@@johnnybravo9087 McILroy doesnt move his hips towards the ball in the downswing, she does. She is stuck, he isnt.
I like the way ladies dress in Texas.
IMO weekend golfers have the opposite problem they swing from outside in, blocking their arms with their lack of body rotation because they start their swing from the top down leaving their right elbow out and releasing the club head way to early, this video IMO is for better golfers
Nice of her to dress up
You LPGA hopeful, you are right. Your body is too forward and you need to move back without moving the head. Your elbow is not the problem. Your right hip blocks the right elbow because your left hip is blocking the right hip.
What you need to do is clear the left hip first in the downswing before you move your arms to the ball. If you listen to him, and move your arms more in front in the hitzone, you will be topping the ball and extending the wrists to hit the ball squarely.
Watch Nelly Korda swing up the line and notice the left hip starting the downswing.
Find another coach.
What happened to Malaska???
Nothing happened. He just goes around searching for the grail. DR.Kwon is a gate he pass thru. Like malaska,monte....
I couldn’t help but hear her say Mhmm or uhum literally every 10 sec. Or after everything dr kwon said
The right hand determines the position of the right elbow.
Keeping the right palm facing the sky (supinate), and the right elbow will NEVER get "stuck"
Its not swing plane issue, its a anatomy issue.
When palm turns palm down, the elbow will ALWAYS move outward. ie OTT, "stuck" etc.
He might be right, but, is there anything fun about learning golf this way, reduced to lines, diagrams and computerized analysis?
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No soft approach here….”the major problem here…”
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This gal has some SERIOUS clubhead speed.