What Is Gained by No-Fault Divorce? |
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- The ladies I debated on @whatever Debates and I may never agree on divorce in general, but they have to agree with me on no-fault divorce, right? It's just very, very bad.
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i understand that she believes those are impressive and also likely her most attractive asset. But, revealing most of her upper torso while simultaneously expecting to be taken seriously debating socio-political topics is an odd choice.
That honestly says more about you than it does her.
@@joelburke8757Nah what are you talking about? You want to judge the character of someone advocating for modesty?
Don’t try to make a moral point in order to justify immorality. You trippin bruh
@StephanASmith judging someones intelligence based on how they are dressed isn't some moral point im trying to make you are wack.
Im just pointing out how stupid that is. Seems you fall into that category as well.
What boobs???
@@StephanASmithThey aren't advocating for modesty. They are invalidating her opinion because of what she's wearing. Judge an argument based on it's merits.
Every point she brought up on favor of 'no fault' was a fault. Why would someone choose to end a basically happy marriage? Because they were annoyed with their spouse?
Because they think they can do better
Egotistical and evil people
My mother and my father this month completed 36 years of marriage, nowadays if a marriage last 2 years it's too much.
No one ends a happy marriage.
A marriage that ends was not a happy one.
@@WeisseEdelweiss because women like to create unhappiness
Every argument against fault divorce basically boils down to, _I should be able to divorce whenever i want, for any reason and benefit from it._
And I'm like, if that's your mindset, just don't get married and leave marriage to the people who are dedicated to actually following their vows.
Yup. If women aren't serious about the traditional vows - "For better or for worse, in sickness and in health" -- they should pick up a crate of kittens now, invest in a tanker's worth of cheap wine, and start getting nose-blind to the smell of urine.
Any man who has ever used porn is for the woodchipper.
Never marry him.
Very well said!
Dile ahi kbron
against no fault divorce*
You’re in a conversation and someone says, “Children are better off with happy divorced parents than they are with parents in an unhappy marriage.”
What would you say?
In headlines about a celebrity divorce or in conversations with friends in struggling marriages, we often hear that it will be better for kids if their unhappy parents get a divorce. In fact, that line was common in arguing for “no fault divorce laws”. But is it true? No! Here are three reasons why…
Number 1: Kids don’t just “get over” divorce. We often talk about divorce like it’s a cold. It’s bothersome, but the kids will get over it. According to the data, that’s simply not true. Divorce affects children’s bodies, minds, and hearts for a very long time. For many kids divorce kicks off a lifetime of loss and transition, further destabilizing events commonly occur, like one parent moving out or remarrying, or step siblings joining the home, or the other parent moving in with someone else, or taking a job in another state, or one parent going through a second or third divorce. Each of these events are highly disruptive. So instability is often a feature of a child’s life after a divorce. Furthermore, the kids of divorce lose out on a significant amount of parental connection. Kids are made for, benefit from, and crave daily involvement with both mother and father. In the best case scenario, divorce cuts parental connection by half, but many kids lose much more of their relationship with the non-custodial parent. Sometimes completely. One study found that nearly half of children with divorced parents had not seen their father in the past year.
Number 2: For kids, two homes are not better than one. Even in the best case scenario where kids still have contact with both parents, they suffer from divided lives. According to one long-term study of children of parents who lived in two different homes, these children on average obtained less education, experienced more unemployment, were more likely to be divorced themselves, faced a greater occurrence of negative life events, and engaged in riskier behavior than their peers raised in intact homes. Researcher Elizabeth Margaret discovered these kids were not just living in two different homes, but nearly half developed two different personalities. As each home offered different versions of the truth, required keeping different secrets, and operated under two different sets of rules. As adults, children of divorce have an increased risk of developing cancer, autoimmune disorders, and suffering a stroke. But even if kids don’t develop a physical condition, they must overcome unfair hurdles as a result of being raised in a split home environment.
Number 3: If couples persevere, unhappy marriages often become happy marriages. In the past, marriage was considered a permanent union, unless one party was deemed at fault, because of something like adultery, abuse, or abandonment. Since the passage of “no fault divorce laws”, spouses could divorce for any reason or no reason at all. Now the majority of divorces take place because the parents are unhappy or have fallen out of love. These are often called “irreconcilable differences”. Perhaps you’ve heard someone say, “I can either stay in an unhappy marriage or get a divorce and be happy”. As if those were the only two options. But researchers have discovered a third better way. Persistence! One study found that a third of unhappy couples with new babies divorced, but if the two-thirds who persisted, 93% reported happy marriages a decade later. A 2002 report found two-thirds of unhappily married adults who chose to stick it out, reported happier marriages five years later. What’s more, unhappy couples who divorced were no happier on average than those who stayed together. In fact, Harry Benson, Research director of the Marriage Foundation noted that, “Contrary to popular belief, staying in an unhappy marriage could be the best thing you ever do.”
In cases of abuse, safety must be a priority. And in cases of adultery, the marriage may be irreconcilable. But even if leaving an unsafe situation is the right thing to do, divorce still inflicts a heavy mental, emotional and physical toll on children. There are scenarios in which the harm that divorce inflicts on children is justified. But adult “happiness” is not one of them.
So the next time you’re talking to someone about divorce and they say, “If the adults are happy, the children will be happy”, remember these three things…
Number 1: Kids don’t just “get over” divorce.
Number 2: For kids, two homes are not better than one.
Number 3: If couples persevere, unhappy marriages often become happy marriages.
Well put. Society wants to present a false dichotomy of "either get divorced or be stuck in an unhappy marriage". But the true solution is to improve the marriage. Work out your problems, because you made a commitment to each other and to your children
That was the best comment I've ever read
Wow, I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you for taking the time to write this
Child of divorce here. Thank you for this.
@@central_scrutinizralso child of divorce here. I was much happier when my parents divorced. The constant fighting and crying was awful. They both became visibly happier better people after it.
A few hundred years ago, if a man beat his wife, the villagers would haul him out of his house and beat him up. And if the wife beat on him, they would make fun of him and shame him relentlessly. It's true.
They'd also parade him around town, riding a donkey backwards while they were shaming him.
Not true it's if he beat his wife excessively excessively was the word used here quit trying to sugarcoat it we used to be able to put women in their place
Those useless cultures are at the bottom of the barrel for a reason.
Sometimes the ones in charge patriarchy of the time, ( the powers that be) and the men of village would side with husband because the husband would lie his ass off that she wasn't faithful or some other accusation -and she deserve it their eyes' (the ass beating she got.) And if husbands beat the point he couldnt work then what?
Case in point just have a wife go to elders or pastor of a church and complain that her husband is abusive - They more than likely will side with the husband, if he's in good standing with his cohorts.
People have this idea that until 10 minutes ago men just beat their wives relentlessly with zero repercussions. Every husband came home from work, had a glass of whiskey, slapped the wife and kids around, then ate dinner. This is just not true. What causes people to believe this is that it is in books and movies because conflict is exciting and normal everyday life is kind of boring. Being a good person is boring, from an entertainment standpoint.
would it be so bothersome to put on some actual clothes? That thing barely covers anything. Have some decency ffs
They can’t. No one will look at them then 😂
You don't get it, those people SEEK OUT getting shafted
That’s what I was thinking! She’s practically naked! Gross.
The only thing that is gained by no fault divorce is that it makes it way too easy to get a divorce instead of trying to work it out. It also makes it too easy for one spouse to screw the other person because they can remove stuff and then file and what is left is what is split. These women really need to grow up. And yes, I have been married to one man 46 years.
Once a man has been aroused by anyone but his wife, it's time to leave.
There's no working out betryal.
Sex outside the marriage is more important to a man than his own children let alone a loyal wife.
Bingo! And congratulations, to many more years!
But I don't agree that this should be legislated. People should want to do it. Otherwise you end up with people just stuck in a mediocre marriage. It needs to be a cultural/mindset shift.
@LilLamb-headquarters My mom always said that a marriage should cost what a divorce cost and a divorce should cost what a divorce cost. If people knew it was harder to get out of marriage, maybe they would make sure before they got hitched. My son lived with someone for 9 years, they ended up getting married, spent over 25,000 for reception and she moved out and in with boyfriend 7 weeks later. Ridiculous but there you go. Make marriage cheap and divorce expensive. Lol
@@cindyshafer1957 Bruh! Your daughter-in-law reads like a certain expletive.
No fault divorce? Sounds like avoiding accountability as usual
I dunno. I'm not a fan of divorce but you can be accountable and just opt to take the most peaceful way out. Why complicate something that can be done simply?
It used to be called "irreconcilable differences".
@@hewhodies It may be called 'no fault', but when it gets around to alimony and child support, rest assured it won't be simple.
@@WildBikerBill I'm not gonna pay alimony. And I have no kids with my ex wife. Don't always assume.
@@WildBikerBill Mine's simple. so I guess it's possible. Sorry to burst your "everything must be evil" theory.
“I’m not telling you you’ve got to come to traditional Latin Mass tomorrow. You could wait until Sunday.” What a great line wow
I see how he bagged SLA
there's literally thousands upon thousands of women on tiktok and other socials telling other women to leave their marriages just because they're bored.
No at fault divorce is a funny way of saying: the man is at fault divorce
If Western women valued marriage they'd realise a contractual divorce protects them too, more so than the men.
And yet, its rare that the man truly is.
@@FBI-ju5no According to?
especially speaking to a married man
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 statistics
Her shirt is struggling to hold them up
Make divorces a zero financial gain. No alimony and no child support with 50/50 custody. Let's see how much they like no fault divorce when the guys can ditch them just as easily.
I was about 12 when my parents divorced and I was extremely stressed and made our situation even worse because now, both parents hated each other talked so much filth about each other, fought over us, try to convince me the other was bad, etc. Sure the arguments got bad sometimes but it was so much worse after divorce. Just something to think about.
I was 3, but grew up going through exactly the same thing, and I can confirm 💯💯.
Atleast make it work for the children.
That was my experience at 6 years old. Just throw in some step parents that don't want you and voila "perfect harmony"
@@thorinhannahs4614
I would literally fist fight and wrestle with my step dad in a town 8 hours away from any family at all so I couldn't run away. Plus I'd leave my brothers. It wasn't until about 15 or 16 when I could actually start putting up a fight.
My parents divorced right before I turned 5. Ever since then I've always been in the middle. Lifetime of drama. Both remarried. My father passed 10 years ago and I feel like I didn't get to enjoy him.
My mother and stepdad(who I love) got divorced a year ago. Guess who once again is smack dab in the middle ..
I've grown to resent my parents.
No consequence hedonism is the ultimate liberal goal and motivation behind all their arguments
Total Control of women and rape are the motivations of the right wing. Since they can’t secure relationships normally they have to force their victims. Right wingers don’t understand consent. It’s disgusting.
Lol. Shorthand: “I want to be a fair weather wife”.
That's what the loudest voices in our culture are advocating.
We need to bring back a healthy demonization of that attitude.
Somebody should start a gofundme to buy that girl a shirt.
Someone should start a go fund me to get some of you incels therapy.
Nah no need to give her money for that lol it’s ok! That’s how she likes to dress
The notion that a child in a household with conflict is better off by not being in that home dismisses that probability that chaos and conflict in the parents next relationship will be equally chaotic and with conflict.
Argument ad lowest common denominator. It's the parents responsibility to work on their relationship for the benefit of the kids, with no fault divorce there's no reason to and the divorce rates show that.
The part where the girl tries to reason that women only get divorced because their marriage is in shambles and that it has nothing to do with selfishness is pretty funny.
Why is the one chick sitting in the corner all silent and sad looking?
She's on all of them. Sometimes she wears an old _Pickelhaube_ for some reason.
She looked happier when Michael started talking about alternatives to divorce. I suspect she's from a broken home.
Idk I get tired of seeing her stare at the camera
@@jimluebke3869 She had her dad on the podcast one time and she told him her notch count. it went viral.
@@jimluebke3869: I'm not sure. Her parents came on the show once, and they're both...ummm...Scandinavian-looking. She may be adopted.
@@MKDumas1981 Or maybe one of them is a step-parent. She looks half Asian.
I’ve been successful in my marriage for 30 years! you have to work at it everyday just using divorce as an excuse to not work hard for something that is divine and can be eternal is very sad. Everyone has stuff about themselves the other isn’t going to like, so choose your partner more carefully!!!
These women have the allegiance of a cat with regard to marriage. If they spent half as much time talking about salvaging a marriage instead of how to end one because they're bored, maybe their kids would have a chance.
Civilization once generated immense pressures to produce and keep women loyal. At their default they are the opposite. It has always been in their best interest to, if a stronger group invaded their current group, fuck the conquerers
Hopefully they don't have and won't have kids.
amen
"Women aren't better off financially after a divorce" "Men get absolutely taken to the cleaners, and often completely wrecked in divorce court"
Both of these can be true. A drowning ex-wife can still drown, even when she climbs up on her ex-husband's shoulders.
Both are true. A divorced wife absolutely should get half... assuming there's a fault for the divorce. But she'd still be better off with a successful marriage.
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 I think that a proper structuring of incentives would be, "Filer-at-fault". If a woman wants to leave but there's no actual fault from her husband, she has to take the hit.
And it has to be actual fault, for fault to be found -- no counting shouting arguments as "abuse", or similar bulls**t.
@@jimluebke3869 I actually don't think people should be able to just leave. I'll use the woman's perspective to emphasise why it's so serious. The probability of a successful marriage in the West is already low we know that, the probability of a married woman to remarry is catastrophically low. The probability of a woman who has children to remarry is close to zero, if she's not settling for someone so far below the standard as a good father for the children.
What guys don't seem to understand anymore and unfortunately I might have to lump women in here too now, is that women basically get one shot at a meaningful life. Pretty much everybody comes around to wanting a family at some point especially when not being socially conditioned to go against it, it's our biology and purpose for being. If a man is able to pack up and leave a woman on a whim, even if she gets half the money, chance at a happy life is pretty much over.
'Until death do we part' used to mean something and it wasn't just some silly feel good tradition. Marriage is a serious matter and people who have no intention on being serious about it have no business lying to their spouse about their level of dedication. I would be beyond furious as a father if a man ruined my daughter's life that way.
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Honestly... I like your approach better.
@@jimluebke3869 People who don't argue for the sake of arguing are rare, so thanks mate. Humans have had most things figured out for centuries if not millennia. We have the answers, we just need to listen to our grandparents, but that's kind of hard to do if we've already asserted that were are the progress, so they must be regress. They were right and we hate that they are. Well... I'm not from Western society so it's not actually my world that's falling apart.
If you believe there's nothing wrong with no fault divorce, you realistically should never get married
Their entire argument against removing no fault divorce was dictated by the belief women can't possibly be in a happy long term marriage. Theres always abuse, conflict and misery..its insane. Everything is in bad faith when it comes to their worldviews on men, but at the same time can't fathom this might interfere in their relationships with men making them chaotic and empty (most of todays relationships)
I say get rid of alimony! That would be a great start!
@Kwildcat13if we ended no-fault divorce, men could not just up and trade her in
@Kwildcat13 It was be a good argument if men were the one's filing for divorce and as you say, trading in their wives for younger women, but it's not. Women file for divorce 80% of the time. It's not men leaving women. And before you utter some ridiculous notion that all of those men are abusive, just don't.
Arranged marriages have one of the highest rates of self-reported happiness and success. It's not just the couples saying this, but also their kids saying it about their parents. There is something fundamentally wrong with how we view 'love' in western culture. We view it as a run at a blackjack table, mostly out of our control and we just stay at the table until we run out chips, if we're not one of the lucky few who never bust. Instead it should be view as a trip to the gym; a slow constant progression toward success. Some days you'll pull a muscle and need some ice and rest, but you don't just walk away forever. You recover and get back on the grind.
From what I can tell they are fine. The fact is that with all this business of love and stuff, long-term relationships and especially marriages are not only increasingly uncommon but also increasingly dysfunctional. It is like society, as cruel as it may have been at times, had a point.
Happy marriages are NOT built on love, they are built on commitment!
@@FrogKnight0Commitment and friendship. Yes, the love and intimacy is important but if you don’t enjoy spending time together, the intimacy won’t be there.
@Orange.Juice121 Probably not but one can hope.
@Orange.Juice121 They very much are not, multiple cultures today still practice arranged marriage. I wasn't advocating for them, just pointing out a fact. IF a study came out that said relationships are OBJECTIVELY more happy and successful when the parents are given a larger role in choosing your spouse, it's just close-minded to instantly reject those findings because "we don't do that anymore".
props to that shirt for holding on
When Ronald Reagan was governor of California said he regretted signing into law the no fault divorce.
Yes, that, abortion and the amnesty for illegal aliens are what he regretted. On abortion at least, he did make up for it.
That's w h y that guy is trash. He signed amnesty too. I have no idea why people worship that clown
The problem is not divorce per se, it's no fault divorce. Imagine you allow your kids to quit school whenever they want for whatever reason. That's just stupid.
There is always a fault. Be it abuse, cheating or falling out of love. The abuser is at fault, the cheater is at fault and irreconcilable differences is both parties fault.
Most people who defend no-fault as policy do so because THEY want to have the opportunity to divorce without bearing any consequences for the harm they do to their spouse.
I was married for 33 years and was very happy. There were ups and downs and was worked out when there was downs.. nowadays people do not want to work on the downs, Instead just get a divorce.
That girl sitting behind Michael has never said a word as far as I know, and I've watched hundreds of these shorts and videos. It appears her "resting face" is one of extraordinary sadness; she is otherwise the saddest young woman I've ever seen. She also unexplainably wears a German pickelhaub helmet at times (the military helmet with the spike on it)
😂😂😂
For the Love of God, please put on a SHIRT.
That's controlling and insecure 😅
MYSOGINY 😂😂😂
Not really its called common sense@2eroumgme753
Look. Abuse as a reason to think that no fault divorce is fine is like saying that rape and incest are good reasons to keep abortion at will legal. In both cases the truth is that most people don't get either for those reasons. Most abortions are birth control and most divorces are just because muh feels.
Correct. You see things clearly.
They are using unfortunate outliers to justify the mean. Additionally (and this seems rather obvious) is the fact that they don't want the burden of having to actually prove that they have justified reasons for an at-fault divorce. Much like many other issue society has faced over the years, they want the way they feel to be the law of the land.
What's with the sad faced girl in the background?
She always on that podcast. She never says anything. I’ve heard her speak maybe twice, each time I agreed with her.
She has a couple of big opinions.
That top was doing some serious heavy lifting, I was astounded. (Also I like your dokkan future gohan pfp)
Naaa ☠️☠️💀💀
@paneraemployee7549 I used to have DBZ Future Gohan for years and someone in the comments asked me to switch to to Doken FG. Idk why he is so special compared to DBZ FG.
And a very empty head.
@@Undying3001 Dokkan is just a mobile dbz game maybe they thought it looked better? Idk it’s more hd than the dbz future gohan perhaps?
Government has legislated that it's better to run from your problems rather than solve them. Is that why congress has 'off-shored' writing laws to unaccountable bureaucrats? Is that why government seems better at breaking things than fixing them? Is this a pattern?
Women aren't running to divorce for GOVERNMENT money, but for the next guy's money. In the age of TOTAL SELFISHNESS, giving violent people the rights to be freely violent, isn't freedom for that society.
We talkin about divorcing your partner or divorcing from modest clothing? Sheesh...
She didn't walk out on her shirt, although it looks like she was trying to.
partner? I don't think we were talking about lgbt marriage
No fault divorce is just an excuse for women to abandon ship when they get bored.
And funny enough it was passed by a Repuiblican man, Ronald Raegan, so he could abandon his ship.
@@alasarcher400 ironically enough
“Just don’t get married”
“You can’t do that, we have common law marriage” - Texas, Colorado, etc.
He is a bad debater. He thinks he's winning because he's interrupting. This is not an indictment on his point of view, it is just a critique on his debate style.
for these women that oppose getting rid of no-fault divorce, ask them how many divorce attourneys they have talked to.
'no-fault' divorce makes people more aware to select the perfect partner. Hence, I am in favor of 'no-fault' divorce !!!!
90% of the man will end up paying and losing most of his money to his ex. So sure women want the quick way to leaving. They are still getting paid.
You’re in a conversation and someone says, “The Bible just isn’t relevant anymore. Our world has moved beyond it.”
What would you say?
The Bible’s influence on the world as we know it has been so profound and so thorough that’s it’s easy to forget just how much it has shaped our understanding of science, morality, politics, literature, music, language, and so many other aspects of life and culture. In many places around the world, the Bible is more influential now than ever. In other words, when someone says that the Bible just isn’t relevant anymore, they’re just wrong.
Here are 3 reasons why:
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Number 2: Modern science is a product of biblical assumptions. Most of the founders of modern science were Christians. Men like Blaise Pascal, Johannes Kepler, Isaac Newton, Robert Boyle, and Gregor Mendel believed their discoveries about nature bore witness to the glory of God. And as philosopher of science Stephen Meyer argues, they believed certain things about the universe that made science possible in the first place. The scientific method itself relies on certain assumptions about the world that came from the Bible. This is why empirical science only emerged out of and flourished in the Christian West. The Bible describes a world that was made by God to be intelligible and orderly. As Meyer says, “Because we have an intelligence that has, as its source, the intelligence that built the world, we can understand the world.” This is why we expect consistency and order in nature and why we expect as humans to be able to study and comprehend that consistency and order. Together, these assumptions form the basis of modern science. Far from replacing the Bible, science as we know it owes its very existence to the Bible.
Number 3: The Bible is the most influential book on the planet, and will be more influential in the future. Today there are nearly 2.4 billion Christians on earth, more than any other religion. According to LifeWay Research, the number of evangelicals alone has tripled since 1970, and 77% of them live in the global south. By 2050, the number of Christians globally is expected to top 3 billion, and a third of them will live in Africa. In less than 10 years, there will be more Christians in China than in the United States. And of course all these Christians will want bibles. So by 2025, LifeWay predicts that 110 million bibles will be printed every year. That’s 15 million more than are currently printed each year. The Bible has been translated into over 700 languages, and sometime after 2038, Wycliffe Bible translators expects a Bible to be available in every written language on earth. In other words, the Bible has never been more influential on the world’s population than it is right now. Though it may have fallen out of favor in the West, we tend to forget that Western assumptions about life and the world about justice and human rights were built on biblical ideas. If current trends hold, it’s not the Bible, but dismissive ideas about the Bible that will become increasingly irrelevant.
So, the next time someone says that the Bible is no longer relevant, here are three things to remember…
Number 1: The Bible shaped and continues to shape the Western mind.
Number 2: Modern science is a product of biblical assumptions.
Number 3: The Bible is the most influential book on the planet, and will be more influential in the future.
Amen well said
At its core, marriage is a consensual contract between two parties. However, if one partner withdraws their consent for any reason, the essential element of mutual agreement is lost. In such cases, the marriage no longer exists in any practical sense. While it's admirable for couples to work through difficulties, the decision to do so or to end the marriage should ultimately be their own choice.
“No fault divorce is good because people used to have to lie to breach their contract.”
I really think they should blur that one girl's chest. She's always seconds away from indecent exposure. I'm surprised she can breathe.
I agree!!
Nah, we’ll allow it…
She looks all right
If you’re gonna make it harder to divorce…
Make it three times as hard to get married!!
"No fault" divorce is really just "not the woman's fault" divorce.
Exactly they can go out and have multiple partners have children with somebody else make the man pay for it and walk away with half of everything he's ever had
Exactly. Woman cheats and the husband has to pay the alimony price as if he was the adulter
What is gained by no fault divorce? SERIOUSLY!!!!
People can get divorced peacefully, with a minimum of fuss. Nobody has to prove a "marital crime" was committed. Nobody needs to be filmed sleeping with a hooker just so that people can move on with their lives. Courts don't need to hear arguments about who's to blame for a couple not having a sex life.
RIDICULOUS QUESTION.
These ladies were just talking in circles always trying to be right.
Even if it contradicted the very next sentence.
The point they didn’t acknowledge was that in an “at-fault” divorce state, you can still get a divorce without cause (or with cause) at anytime. You just don’t get all of the cash and prizes for doing so.
"I'm not telling you you have to come to Traditional Latin Mass tomorrow, you could wait until Sunday." That got me laughing loud.
That is an excellent question. And the answer is: It benefits women 100% of the time. Thank you, Feminism/Political Correctness and Cultural Marxism.
The fuck it does.
@@becca6663Women are not oppressed
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Why do you insist on spamming this comment?
good on you. and I'm not even surprised. The Lord Jesus Christ is real. HE has been saving humanity from ourselves through out history.
@@SlapMyBass3825 Wants as many people to see it as possible, I'd guess. And hey, it makes sense. If you'd found the truth and it had solved most of your life's problems, wouldn't you want to share it?
I got no fault divorce from abusive spouse. I chose no fault cause it was a easier and cheaper divorce. I wanted nothing from my ex I just wanted to be free and safe. And couldn’t afford to pay a lawyer to go to court.
I filed for divorce in Texas after my wife cheated for the second time, made false allegations against me, brought STIs into the home (almost costing me my medic license), etc. Yet in Texas, every lawyer told me my only option was "no fault divorce", that she broke no laws, she played the game better. Yes, I am glad I have 50/50 custody, that's better than most men get. Yet, I filed, I paid. I still have to pay almost $900/month to my ex for child support for our six y/o daughter. My ex now lives with the 4th man she slept with in the past year, at least this one seems to be nice to my daughter! My ex has history with CPS i didn't find out about until we had been married and had our daughter.
But, its still "no fault divorce"!!!!!!
How many other divorces are put down as "no fault" because its filed by the male? Or so the system can keep getting the federal subsidies of title IV? Or so the judge & family court, and lawyers can keep it simple & quick to make their money? I know it cost me over $20k to get divorced. It feels so stacked against men.
No fault divorce is the friend of women who can't be faithful.
The ridiculous commentary about 'we can't stay with one person forever' is more indication of just how selfish these women are.
Not even Micheal could keep his eyes off that demons chest lol we feel your struggle brother 🙏
She’s getting exactly what she wants because there are tons of comments about her boobs
People are constantly changing and if they no longer want to live their life with their current spouse why on earth would we want them to continue under the marriage contract? This is especially the case when there are no children involved. The focus should be on helping people choose a compatible partner on the outset. It should require mandatory counseling and testing to qualify for a marriage license. This would significantly reduce divorce rates.
I can't even tell you how many people I know over the age of 45 that have divorced because they just don't feel that way about each other anymore. Like literally for no other reason that they just don't want it anymore. That is so incredibly sad. One spouse is totally left alone when they never see it coming. And most of the time it's the man that is blindsided.
2:56 No fault divorce allows the women divorce for any bullshit reason.
I thought freedom was supposed to be a big thing with conservatives. Guess not.
Their definition of “freedom” includes freedom from having to tolerate other people behaving in ways they don’t personally approve of.
I ended my marriage in a "no fault" because I knew if my ex smelled a dime she'd gladly cost me a dollar to get it. She was a liar, manipulator, who'd spew lies to always paint herself a victim, eventhough I was loyal, refused to cheat, even when she was actively cheating. She essentially dropped a nuke on our finances causing the home to go into foreclosure and cars repossessed. It is because of her I have a difficult time even considering a relationship because of how badly she burned me, more than nine years later. I was literally eating food from grocery store dumpsters to keep from making more than her, and still survive. I could have gone back to my parents home, but I feared if I did, she could somehow claim it as a marital home. She was that devious, conniving, I wouldn't have put it past her.
Why did you marry such a woman?
It’s not for the money… it’s usually for the house and specifically long term marriages none of that 5 year crap
They are failing to understand that marriage takes work. And if you can't get a divorce for no reason you will work to make your relationship work and decide to be happy with it. People are stuck on the idea that others control their happiness.
It is a contractual lifelong agreement. It shouldn't be able to be broken without some grievous fault by a one or both parties. If you don't want that, DON'T GET MARRIED. That's why we MUST eliminate "no fault divorce".
So you think it’s ethical to force a person to remain in a romantic relationship they don’t want to be in?
@@spongeintheshoe Did they vow to stay together for life? Did they do that in the presence of witnesses? Did they have children together? Then unless you are fleeing the criminal activity of your spouse, yes, law should compel the veracity of the marriage. No one forced you to get married. You chose the responsibility.
Do you think it's ethical to lie because it's convenient? Do you think it's ethical to break a vow when it suits you? Do you think it's ethical to destroy a family for your own selfishness?
@@letsgobrandon416 I think it's ethical to break a vow if keeping it only harms all parties involved. And I think being raised by a single parent, or under a shared custody agreement, is better for the children than being raised by two parents who quietly resent being forced to share a house for the rest of their life.
Conflict resolution is learned from watching parents have disagreements and work it out.
There is no such thing as 'no-fault' divorce. It operates as 'higher income spouse is presumed to be at fault'. No fault would mean no alimony.
The fact the lower income spouse is freed of all obligations of the marriage while the higher income spouse is forced to continue to bear financial obligations of the marriage means that person is being held at fault.
Question to ALL Women out there:
- would you support following idea: if your husband will decide that he is unhappy within marriage then he can divorce you, take away half of your belongings and life savings including half of your own house (either purchased by yourself or inherited)
on top of that you would lose all your rights to see your own kids. and he WOULD NOT NEED any reason for that divorce to happen.
Would you still support no fault divorce if it would work that direction? I wonder ...
No fault divorce did more damage to marriages than gay marriage ever has done. From there the courts attacked men and have ridiculous judgments against them to keep them from
Being fathers even half the time which is ridiculous
What is the point of marriage with no fault divorce? Theres no commitment.
Correct. It literally makes the wedding vows pointless.
If shuttling between two homes is in any way enriching why don't the parents do it?
Leave the kids in the house they had and let the 'adults' rotate between temporary locations.
When I was single I had a job where I traveled every week. Left Sunday afternoon, returned Friday night. Stayed in nice hotels, ate out all the time, usually had workout facilities available. It is tiring and it changes the way you look at permanence. I was in my twenties at the time, not teens or younger.
Pro no- fault divorce ... We should have a choice.
Totally agree with Michael on this one. There is a huge amount of support behind just divorcing your spouse if you are unhappy. There is pretty much no messaging in society to support the idea of sticking with your spouse and working hard to improve yourself and improve your marriage. Is it any wonder why people are so quick to divorce?
Take responsibility women.
Women stop caring for their husbands. The husbands react by cheating or whatever and then women turn around and say "see, it's his fault I want a divorce"
She can debate Michael in the same way an infant could be in a boxing match with Mike Tyson.
Who gives a shit whether or not total strangers get divorced? If you don’t like it, stay married. End of story.
Not to try and encourage too much of a pity party for myself, or oversell how traumatized I am by these things, but I've been mugged before, and a few days ago on the subway some guy shoved me and threatened violence against me FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. Is what it is. It's a hard world out there, and you've just got to accept that and be responsible. Just sayin' though. I don't know anything about any of the culprits in these instances, but my limited experience with them, if feel, doesn't help the chances that they had two loving parents who were dedicated to their children and to each other. Point being, we've all got to share a world together, and divorce does not just effect you or even necessarily just your own family
@@zackwalker1721 I do see what you are saying, but I doubt that if people are at the point of wanting to divorce that there will be a healthy environment for kids in that home. It’s not like people get divorced because everything is going wonderful. I think there is much worth in trying to keep a marriage healthy, but when that’s failed, just let people move on.
@@justacatwhocantypeI played asketball when I was in highschool. my last year playing my team wasn't the very best but we won way more than we lost. I like to think I was a competent player who did my part to help my team win, but is that the main reason why my team was decidedly in the top half of our league? No. If I had ended up on the team that happened to be the worst team, I wouldn't have lifted them any more than at most one spot up the pecking order. In fact, the best player on the worst team was really good. Better than me it seemed
It's understandable why people make a scapegoat out of the situation that someone is in. On a basketball team you're just 1 of a dozen guys. There's only so much you can do. People try to apply this same reasoning to marriage, though, and I think that's a lot harder to do when you account for a whole half of the group.
My parents divorced when I was 9 it was best thing they could have done no more fighting no more shouting and no more watching my mother cry all the time . Why would want to stay with someone who doesn't love you anymore and can't stand the sight of you anymore if that's how she feels she is no good to me and she is free to leave ...
As a los, You said. As a man, taking away your house, your child, your Money and your future ... Thats another story
Your parents could have chosen not to be like that, tbh
I wish I could have had a fault divorce - I would have been able to hold my ex accountable for lying, cheating and letting his mistress use his credit card that was attached to my credit.
Thank GOD we never had kids.
Show them the long list of older woman who got divorced thinking it was the answer, who absolutely regret it now. The grass is always greener.
1. Fault divorce needs to be an option
2. No fault (is actually unconstitutional per the contract clause) should REALLY be no fault. Alimony/ spousal support NEVER applies to no fault, as it is only for an aggrieved spouse in a FAULT marriage. You leave with what you came with into the marriage AND what’s yours is what you actually contributed to
3. 50/50 custody save a CRIMINAL CONVICTION of child abuse
Children who grow up in a household with conflict? Show me one household in all of human history that didn't have conflict. It's never happened.
No fault divorce was created for one purpose, to make it easier on the court system. The courts were getting gunked up with all these divorce procedures and judges were getting sick of it. As with all decisions made in a state of irritation, they listened to the most noisy group of PhDs and wrote the laws accordingly.
I love all that you guys say and stand for and I have listened and learnt how to better support my husband and consequently my family from listening to men speak of and uphold a less feminist, more traditional rolls. I haven't seen all your podcasts, but would also love to hear from woman who are more conservative and not just only fans representing our gender.
Marriage has traditionally been a contractual arrangement between families for most of human history. The new style of romantic marriage is very new, a few hundred years, apparently it doesn't work very well if we go by the statistics.
Yeah, trading your daughter for pelf was apparently much better for your daughter than letting her choose (Vice-versa for your son.).
Michael, can you explain the Prussian Helmet lady? She never speaks in any videos I’ve seen and just wears that goofy helmet. Please tell me you asked her about that…
I've been told in the past that Picklehaube Lady is the producer for the show. So that's why she doesn't say anything, she's not a guest. It's also why she is among the very, very few who have had their parents on the show.
Michael is never gonna see this
Her argument is essentially to just enjoy the ride down the slippery slope to ruin our our lives and home...
Does anybody know what the purpose is of the girl behind Michael? Everytime I see a whatever clip or video she’s just… there.
She looks 12 with makeup and occasionally catches a glimpse of herself.
I'm convinced she's either a hologram or Whatever Pod is funded by foreign caliphates.
I never hear women talking about the money aspect . All they say is that they fell out of love or abuse but they're still always willing to take more than their fair share on the way out
I believe in resolution. My husband and I did NOT start with a great marriage. We had our children taken away and we had a court mandated restraining order with one another. On top of that, I had to attend DV Group … but I sat through one meeting, and it terrified me. I raised my hand for permission to speak and asked all the women if they planned on getting back together with their husband? Not one said yes .. I, then, looked at the counselor and told her I couldn’t be part of this group because I WANTED to get my family back together. 14 years later, my husband and I are HAPPILY married and we are a great team and have been edified by others as that. Behind CLOSED doors, we are so happy. I share this story with tears because I believe that if I GAVE UP on our marriage .. my life as well as his and our children would be entirely different and most likely NOT happy.
An ideal being difficult to live up to, is not an argument against that ideal
I guess holding a pen DOESN'T make one smarter.
Euh, lots people who decided not to divorce but stay together, tell the marital problems simply went away within a few years. And the majority of people that divorce regret divorcing within a few years after the divorce. What can be concluded from both scenarios is that things and viewpoints change with time.
But people who get divorces generally aren’t kids.
Ironically, he is trying to make laws/government step in to remove accountability from the parents. By supporting no fault divorce, you're forcing the parents to own the effects it will have on their family. It should be up to the couple to work through their issues to maintain or end their marriage, not laws. Unfortunately the women didn't make that argument hard enough