I love all your videos! You pack so much info into a decently timed video without it being really boring. You are clear and forward with everything and I also love your hunting vids!!! Keep up the good work man!!
The down side to the Ropeman is that if you lose your foothold and need to descend, you have to unload the rope man in order to open the cam to descend. Whereas with the Distal Hitch or many other friction hitches you can descend by pulling from the top of the knot as you showed in your video. I suppose thought that would apply more to a tether than for a Lineman's belt.
Greetings from a fellow Minnesotan, always enjoy the content. Got into mobile hunting because many of your videos and The Hunting Public. Changed whitetail hunting to be a lot of fun again.
Garrett, I made the traditional rope hitch method work just fine using a prusik instead. And instead of the shizll rope slider, I just used two heavy duty keychain rings linked together. The prusik bites much better.
Garrett your video's are incredibly good and informative. I think you give VERY informed recommendations and informed consent. IT is always up to each individual to learn on their own the risk, safety, and proper use of ALL the equipment they use!! Having said that don't listen to the haters!!! Having said that I heard you mention something the on a video awhile back about the rope color that you are using was not something that you particularly liked. If you buy RIT dye you can change or dull any color rope without affecting its properties. RIT dye comes in many colors and may be a solution that might work for you, or anyone else for that matter.
I agree at @11.14 or so, that the sophisticated gadget would shorten the life span of our precious rope and appreciate very much your showing the use of-say dbbl fisherman's knot to secure the carabina at the end of the rope..
I just ordered 150ft of poison ivy (predator was out of stock) 24strand double braided 11.4 rope and a couple ropeman ascenders.. can't wait to put away the big heavy loud climbing sticks.. also (I believe it was your vid) got a 10pack of wild edge steps..!! Can't wait to get back in the saddle after this weekend!! Thanks for your tips!! So after your backpack video I had a lightbulb go off, and thought why not make a saddle with a backpack..?? Webbed with 2" webbing, 1.5" leg web straps with buckles from a spare set of full body harness I never used and used 1/4" heavy plastic to form a seat and to capture all webbing... it works great in side yard, I have been practicing with it and can't wait to put it to use.. carry linemans belt, tether and ropes in pack to tree, along with stuff in a large fanny pack to hang it tree for calls lunch etc.. think it should be handy!! I will update on how it works after this long weekend of ski lift operation for our fall festivals over!!!
Garret great video. The use of the knot and tender is a great idea. I’ve used my tree climbers companion book for years to reference knots and such for making my own gear but it never dawned on me to try that out. I’ve just experimented with other one way friction knots for ease of release. 👍🏻
I use a large S hook and close the ends to do the same thing. Being it isn't load bearing it works great to move my prusik knot up and down my tether and is a lot smaller.
Thanks, I just built my own lineman’s rope and safety rope for use with my new Black Diamond BOD harness. I’ve always hated the “one size fits all” full body harnesses out there on the market that are like 5xl with heavy hardware on them. This system is better, safer, and much lighter!!
Just use a rope grab or a petzl shunt works really great for adjustment. I personally just prefer a micropulley with distel tied with 8mm prusik. Its easier to operate one handed. Even with tension on your lanyard.
For tie the rope to the carabiner es better, a new knot. Is called “nudo joanet”. Is invented in Malaga, Spain. The test demostrates, test this knot is very strong, and the longitude for make this is less than the other common knots for the sale funccion. You can search “ nudo joanet”. I use this, since i know this. O ver this time i love this.
Doesn’t matter you can use any length of rope, probably don’t want 12 feet of rope unless you’re climbing some insanely girthy trees the amount of rope you use depends on the width of the trees you’ll be climbing
Thanks 4 the info, I plan on using this with my arsenal. I have a 20 lb. 1/2" camo rope 4 my stand & a 1/4" camo rope 2 bring up my bow in my pack @ all times. No knotting & strong enough so u don't get 2 much stretch.
Video was ver y instructional. On the knot type hookup with the ring tinder idea instead of rope man, in the video tying that knot into the line the video just kind of jumped after you had the hitch on there, so how did you get the tinder(blue thing with eyes) hooked up? Was one end of the line already ran through the eye of that? You can’t see it being hooked in to carabiner. Thank you. Great video!
I was going to make my own linemans rope then priced out the parts and it is 3 to 7 times more expensive making your own than buying one pre-made. Only justification I could see for making my own is if I'd regularly set up in trees bigger then 18 inches in diameter, the pre-made linemans being 8 foot long is limiting to about that size tree. I'm working on getting permission to hunt a mature old growth oak forest with oak trees 3 to 5 feet in diameter so may be needing to make myself a longer one or just carry a ladder stand in and out.
If using cord and ring is the loop of cord between the two ends of the hitch? You demonstrated the rope slider and it wasn’t clear but I think the tail end goes through the ring. Making my own to save money. Thanks
I am very interested in your distel hitch; specifically in regards to using it for emergency descent. As you are obviously aware, hanging up in the deer stand is a huge risk, and emergency descent devices are pretty expensive. Would you be able to use that rig to do a controlled descent without the aid of any additional equipment? I am thinking about using this, along with a mountaineering climbing harness, with my climbing tree stand. The idea is to attach the distel hitch to a 30-40 foot line, and use that as my lifeline, as well as a emergency decent device. Would that work?
I have always used hang on stands & I would never put up a stand without my rope style tree attachment with a prussit knot. I put camo tape on my carribeaner since I am very noise & camo conscious
Has anyone used dynamic rope for a lineman belt? I use 9.8mm dynamic for a lifeline - have lots of it in great condition - so wondering about using as a lineman. The 12mm static rope I'm using now is a bit stiff and bulky.
Great video as usual. You mentioned that rather than use the carabiner on the end of your linesman’s belt you prefer to just tie it permanently to your harness. What knot do you use to tie it to your harness or do you girth hitch your belt to your harness, and if so what kind of knots? Thanks
DIY Sportsman excuse my ignorance but is it the figure 8 knot that is tied on the Kestrel when you receive it? If so, that’s what I’m trying to eliminate. That knot is huge! Thank you.
Anybody knows why the Ropeman 1 Ascender is out of stock everywhere? The Amazon link says it's not available. Hopefully the company will not discontinue this great product!
Several years ago you made a video on combining a sit drag with a climbing harness. You used 1” mil-spec tubular webbing as a kinda long lineman’s rope/second tether. Any reason why I couldn’t use 11mm predator rope instead? Thanks.
DIY Sportsman Appreciate the info. Your setup is my alternative to paying $400+ for a designer saddle and kit. I do have a predator platform enroute. At 70 years young, I’ve concluded that saddle hunting is safer and more fun than my climber and hang-on. Take care, and thanks again.
Did you switch from the wire gate carabiner due to safety concerns? I really like the wire gates for how much less they weigh but maybe its not worth the risk?
You'll hear multiple opinions on it. In tree work it's pretty much standard practice for the three action auto-lockers to be used because it's an industry with safety and liability concerns. In hunting, you're pretty much just looking out for your own safety, so it becomes the user's responsibility. From a practical standpoint, I think wiregates have some advantages because they are less likely to pinch the material in your cloves in cold weather, force you to be more cognizant of what you're doing, are lighter, and according to some sources I've read less likely to open during a fall due to gate lash. So if a guy tells me he wants to use a wiregate, I can understand his reasoning, but at the same time, it might not be something I want to recommend with a broad stroke for those who might not understand the limitations.
Do you think it would be ok, to use that knot on my kestrel saddle , to attach the bridge permanently on one side ? Instead of that big knot they have?TIA
The friction device's line should be 50-80% of the rope you're using it to stop on. A prusik made out of the same size as the rope has a chance of slippage. Here's a great video on that: ua-cam.com/video/0fdOn2futNc/v-deo.html
called a 'locking' carabiner, or in your case a "twist lock" carabiner. But you don't normally hear "auto locking" carabiner though that's exactly what it is. You do hear "auto block" prusik. Great videos -but I'm disturbed a little bit at how information from bona fide climbing sources gets a little twisted in the saddle hunting community. Plus, plenty of new "experts" making videos and some safety issues from that as well.
Yall should go look up a little 75 cent gizmo called a tubular cable thimble and think about it for a minute. Ur welcome. DIY instead of DIBuy. That's $ 0.75.
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Thanks for making these videos. Please ignore the self-righteous "professionals" that try to shame you for giving safety advice.
I love all your videos! You pack so much info into a decently timed video without it being really boring. You are clear and forward with everything and I also love your hunting vids!!! Keep up the good work man!!
I love the ropeman and as a noob it was the best mod i could have had to learn climbing.
The down side to the Ropeman is that if you lose your foothold and need to descend, you have to unload the rope man in order to open the cam to descend. Whereas with the Distal Hitch or many other friction hitches you can descend by pulling from the top of the knot as you showed in your video. I suppose thought that would apply more to a tether than for a Lineman's belt.
Great presentation and not one word over what's necessary to drive your point!
Greetings from a fellow Minnesotan, always enjoy the content. Got into mobile hunting because many of your videos and The Hunting Public. Changed whitetail hunting to be a lot of fun again.
Garrett, I made the traditional rope hitch method work just fine using a prusik instead. And instead of the shizll rope slider, I just used two heavy duty keychain rings linked together. The prusik bites much better.
Garrett your video's are incredibly good and informative. I think you give VERY informed recommendations and informed consent. IT is always up to each individual to learn on their own the risk, safety, and proper use of ALL the equipment they use!! Having said that don't listen to the haters!!! Having said that I heard you mention something the on a video awhile back about the rope color that you are using was not something that you particularly liked. If you buy RIT dye you can change or dull any color rope without affecting its properties. RIT dye comes in many colors and may be a solution that might work for you, or anyone else for that matter.
Love all your videos. I would suggest showing how this knot works in a real hunting situation. Keep up the great work.
We used to tie that knot with the x for lifelines and underneath the x we would put a slipknot as a back up and we were using large line.
I agree at @11.14 or so, that the sophisticated gadget would shorten the life span of our precious rope and appreciate very much your showing the use of-say dbbl fisherman's knot to secure the carabina at the end of the rope..
I just ordered 150ft of poison ivy (predator was out of stock) 24strand double braided 11.4 rope and a couple ropeman ascenders.. can't wait to put away the big heavy loud climbing sticks.. also (I believe it was your vid) got a 10pack of wild edge steps..!! Can't wait to get back in the saddle after this weekend!! Thanks for your tips!! So after your backpack video I had a lightbulb go off, and thought why not make a saddle with a backpack..?? Webbed with 2" webbing, 1.5" leg web straps with buckles from a spare set of full body harness I never used and used 1/4" heavy plastic to form a seat and to capture all webbing... it works great in side yard, I have been practicing with it and can't wait to put it to use.. carry linemans belt, tether and ropes in pack to tree, along with stuff in a large fanny pack to hang it tree for calls lunch etc.. think it should be handy!! I will update on how it works after this long weekend of ski lift operation for our fall festivals over!!!
Garret great video. The use of the knot and tender is a great idea. I’ve used my tree climbers companion book for years to reference knots and such for making my own gear but it never dawned on me to try that out. I’ve just experimented with other one way friction knots for ease of release. 👍🏻
I use a large S hook and close the ends to do the same thing. Being it isn't load bearing it works great to move my prusik knot up and down my tether and is a lot smaller.
Thanks, I just built my own lineman’s rope and safety rope for use with my new Black Diamond BOD harness. I’ve always hated the “one size fits all” full body harnesses out there on the market that are like 5xl with heavy hardware on them. This system is better, safer, and much lighter!!
Thank you for the detail.
What is your starting length recommendation?
I usually start with 10 or 11 feet. It's generally more than needed, but it's easier to trim off excess than add it back on
How long is the rope you used for the ropeman set up?
I usually start with about 10 feet and then trim the finished product if I feel the need to.
You're the best man. I've learned a lot watching your videos! Thank you!
Big Thank You 🙏🏻 I prefer rope simple and quiet. Climbing technology RollNLock is the best mechanical FYI
Just use a rope grab or a petzl shunt works really great for adjustment. I personally just prefer a micropulley with distel tied with 8mm prusik. Its easier to operate one handed. Even with tension on your lanyard.
For tie the rope to the carabiner es better, a new knot. Is called “nudo joanet”. Is invented in Malaga, Spain.
The test demostrates, test this knot is very strong, and the longitude for make this is less than the other common knots for the sale funccion.
You can search “ nudo joanet”.
I use this, since i know this. O ver this time i love this.
How long is the 11mm rope for this Lineman's Rope?
Doesn’t matter you can use any length of rope, probably don’t want 12 feet of rope unless you’re climbing some insanely girthy trees the amount of rope you use depends on the width of the trees you’ll be climbing
Good video and very interesting subject matter. It's nice to have options. Thanks, Scott
Thanks 4 the info, I plan on using this with my arsenal. I have a 20 lb. 1/2" camo rope 4 my stand & a 1/4" camo rope 2 bring up my bow in my pack @ all times. No knotting & strong enough so u don't get 2 much stretch.
Video was ver y instructional. On the knot type hookup with the ring tinder idea instead of rope man, in the video tying that knot into the line the video just kind of jumped after you had the hitch on there, so how did you get the tinder(blue thing with eyes) hooked up? Was one end of the line already ran through the eye of that? You can’t see it being hooked in to carabiner. Thank you. Great video!
I was going to make my own linemans rope then priced out the parts and it is 3 to 7 times more expensive making your own than buying one pre-made.
Only justification I could see for making my own is if I'd regularly set up in trees bigger then 18 inches in diameter, the pre-made linemans being 8 foot long is limiting to about that size tree. I'm working on getting permission to hunt a mature old growth oak forest with oak trees 3 to 5 feet in diameter so may be needing to make myself a longer one or just carry a ladder stand in and out.
Can this be done with a prusik knot?
Great job as usual Garrett
If using cord and ring is the loop of cord between the two ends of the hitch? You demonstrated the rope slider and it wasn’t clear but I think the tail end goes through the ring. Making my own to save money. Thanks
I am very interested in your distel hitch; specifically in regards to using it for emergency descent. As you are obviously aware, hanging up in the deer stand is a huge risk, and emergency descent devices are pretty expensive. Would you be able to use that rig to do a controlled descent without the aid of any additional equipment? I am thinking about using this, along with a mountaineering climbing harness, with my climbing tree stand. The idea is to attach the distel hitch to a 30-40 foot line, and use that as my lifeline, as well as a emergency decent device. Would that work?
Isn't predator rope slightly bigger than 11mm? I ask because I thought it's out of spec for a grigri which tops out at 11mm.
I have always used hang on stands & I would never put up a stand without my rope style tree attachment with a prussit knot. I put camo tape on my carribeaner since I am very noise & camo conscious
Has anyone used dynamic rope for a lineman belt? I use 9.8mm dynamic for a lifeline - have lots of it in great condition - so wondering about using as a lineman. The 12mm static rope I'm using now is a bit stiff and bulky.
If your lineman safes you in the event that your stick fails (drops to the ground), how do you recover and get down.?
Great video. I just switched to using distel hitch for my tethred. Much easier to adjust than prusik.
What lineman's belt do you recommend for hunting?. Not for a saddle but for climbing with sticks.Thx!
Do you happen to remember the article you read about the tested shock load on the ropeman 1? Or what the shock load would equate to?
What length is your samson tether
Going take make curious to how long to make them
Great video, what kind of bow vice is that?
What would be a good length to make your line man's rope?
I usually start around an 8 foot fished rope and then trim to personal taste. Better to start too long than too short
@@DIYSportsman ok thanks
Great video as usual. You mentioned that rather than use the carabiner on the end of your linesman’s belt you prefer to just tie it permanently to your harness. What knot do you use to tie it to your harness or do you girth hitch your belt to your harness, and if so what kind of knots? Thanks
Figure 8 knot works but is sort of bulky in comparison so I would typically use an overhand with plenty of tag end (one less turn than the figure 8).
DIY Sportsman excuse my ignorance but is it the figure 8 knot that is tied on the Kestrel when you receive it? If so, that’s what I’m trying to eliminate. That knot is huge! Thank you.
@@michaelranalli9316 That's correct. The Kestrel comes with a figure 8 for that attachment.
Could you tie a noose knot with your linesman belt directly into your linesman loop on your saddle?
What's your preferred all around carabiner? Thanks as always for the great insight into your set ups!
How long is the rope you use?
10 feet to start out. It's easy to cut it shorter if desired, but not the other way around.
Anybody knows why the Ropeman 1 Ascender is out of stock everywhere? The Amazon link says it's not available. Hopefully the company will not discontinue this great product!
MEC in Canada and REI in the USA can get them
Several years ago you made a video on combining a sit drag with a climbing harness. You used 1” mil-spec tubular webbing as a kinda long lineman’s rope/second tether. Any reason why I couldn’t use 11mm predator rope instead? Thanks.
Yes, you can use 11mm predator for pretty much any hunting harness rope - tether, lineman's rope, or bridge.
DIY Sportsman Appreciate the info. Your setup is my alternative to paying $400+ for a designer saddle and kit. I do have a predator platform enroute. At 70 years young, I’ve concluded that saddle hunting is safer and more fun than my climber and hang-on. Take care, and thanks again.
Did you switch from the wire gate carabiner due to safety concerns? I really like the wire gates for how much less they weigh but maybe its not worth the risk?
You'll hear multiple opinions on it. In tree work it's pretty much standard practice for the three action auto-lockers to be used because it's an industry with safety and liability concerns. In hunting, you're pretty much just looking out for your own safety, so it becomes the user's responsibility. From a practical standpoint, I think wiregates have some advantages because they are less likely to pinch the material in your cloves in cold weather, force you to be more cognizant of what you're doing, are lighter, and according to some sources I've read less likely to open during a fall due to gate lash. So if a guy tells me he wants to use a wiregate, I can understand his reasoning, but at the same time, it might not be something I want to recommend with a broad stroke for those who might not understand the limitations.
What would be your thoughts for a Blake’s hitch for the lineman’s belt adjustment system ? Doable ? O
You could use any friction hitch and cordage but using an eye to eye and a hitch designed for eye to eye makes the most sense.
Great stuff! Silly question, can this be done with Amsteel?
I wouldn't use amsteel due to the increased abrasion from the tree over time and slippery nature of the surface and hollow core.
Wouldn't work with a ascender at all.
You can use a prusik with one hand easy trick to it
Will the rope man work on a muddy lineman’s rope?
Provided the size fits within the diameter range for the Ropeman, it would. I'm not 100% sure on the Muddy rope diameter. Cant find it advertised.
Any luck on finding if the ropeman 1 would work?? On the muddy rope
Do you think it would be ok, to use that knot on my kestrel saddle , to attach the bridge permanently on one side ? Instead of that big knot they have?TIA
I've used an overhand knot instead of their Figure 8 (one less turn). I've tried the cinching knots too but they twist the bridge loops a little.
what is a good knot to permanently attach my linemans rope on on side of my saddle? TIA
Figure 8 knot is pretty standard for that type of attachment.
Thanks. Where can i get the ropeman.
REI.com
Tie the double fisherman's loop without the carabiner first. Much easier. Then clip on the biner. You're welcome
The friction device's line should be 50-80% of the rope you're using it to stop on. A prusik made out of the same size as the rope has a chance of slippage. Here's a great video on that: ua-cam.com/video/0fdOn2futNc/v-deo.html
Great video keep making videos
Thanks
Thanks for the info. Keep it up.
called a 'locking' carabiner, or in your case a "twist lock" carabiner. But you don't normally hear "auto locking" carabiner though that's exactly what it is. You do hear "auto block" prusik. Great videos -but I'm disturbed a little bit at how information from bona fide climbing sources gets a little twisted in the saddle hunting community. Plus, plenty of new "experts" making videos and some safety issues from that as well.
Yall should go look up a little 75 cent gizmo called a tubular cable thimble and think about it for a minute. Ur welcome. DIY instead of DIBuy. That's $ 0.75.
After you tie the knot, use electrical tape to tie the tag end of the knot to the standing portion of the lanyard, it'll dress the knot...