$1,900 Mac Mini Pro M2 vs $6,000 Mac Studio Ultra M1 // Video Editing Comparison
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:42 Specs
1:35 Functionality
3:01 Editing Speed Test
9:29 What Specs Are Worth it?
10:44 Overall Thoughts - Фільми й анімація
Another awesome comparison. I love that you kept it short and sweet without lots of extra filler and insignificant details. Epic stuff Parker.
Glad to see actual task comparisons as opposed to synthetic benchmarks.
Great video. Right to the point. Looking forward to a year or so when you switch to Resolve and we can see those comparisons consistently going forward.
Always enjoy your videos bro. Keep up the good work
No BS, straight forward to the point.💯 I love it!
Beautiful set up team. Love your back light there. Thanks for this topic!. ✨
Great video, Parker! We got the recommendation from your newsletter and I couldn't resist watching because we're getting ready to buy the new Mac mini. - Josh & Kalie
Ports on the front are thunderbolt 4, not USB-C on the Ultra. USB-C is on the Max version with the front ports.
I love your videos man! They help me so much!
😊 thanks
thanks for all the helpful info.
Love your content!! Thanks
Thank you for this helpful video.
epic Parker.. thanks for the info mate!
That's why You are my favorite chanel always giving great reviews and advices
Good to see. Have the studio. It is still an absolute beast - will go for m3 ultra if it comes out, but for now it is wayyyy fast enough for everything ;)
1:57 "thunderbort fort ports" 🤣
Well done sir; a very informative video.
Love your vids!
Thank you for being fast and informative, no bullshit right to the important stuff, this is how you do it.
@Parker Walbeck - great video. I would love to know your experience with editing R3d raw 6k and 8k on the new Mac Mini M2 vs the Studio. I've seen other videos citing that Resolve is specifically better optimized with R3D it seems. So I'm on the fence here and the rumor mill is already going that the Studio might be phased out. A fully maxed M2 Mini is considerably cheaper so that is already a plus.
Thanks for such a valuable tip. It really saves a fortune for many viewers.
You need to revisit this in a couple months to see if software optimizations have any effect on these numbers.
Well for only $300 more you get a M1 Max (24GPU, 32GB RAM, 1TB) Mac Studio with better ports, cooling and much greater performance in video tasks (double the encoders and 50% more GPU cores). Don't know why this is not mentioned as an option? Once you start upgrading the Mac Mini, it quickly looses it's value... Just how Apple works in general (same story with MacBook Air).
Touche.
Just wait for new m2 mac studio.
@@adityachaudhary554 I fear Apple will follow their 2 year update cycle. So wait another year until May 2024? I have a hard decision form me to make now because i'm still on Intel but have to move.
@@llothar68 Mac Studio will sell the remaining M1 Max chips. When those are out of stock, Apple will move it to M2. Simple as that.
@@philippscheithauer is the M1 Max Studio better than a M2 Mac Mini Pro? specs says so plus that power boost with the Studio I think helps. Bank for Buck, I think your right about the Studio for $300 more. However, my personal issue is do I want a M1 MAX Studio or a MBP? being able to utilize real time color grades, luts, etc during test shoots or on location with a quality screen vs having to wait to get home is the only thing holding me back from this purchase. basically is portability worth the extra $$$ 🤔
Thanks as always, exactly what I was guessing, happy with my Ultra choise.
Thanks for this awesome comparison video. The Mac Mini Pro M2 sure does provide a lot of bang for the buck.
There is an option for the Apple displays called True Tone. You need to disable it, than you shouldn´t have problems with saturation and contrast! I figured that out recently :)
Isn't that one of the features Apple deployed to pander to the blacks?
@Alaberti It's actually a real thing. Black skin tones are very hard to match. All cameras are designed for white skin tones. Just a fact but they are trying to tackle this issues in some cameras.
@Alaberti Yeh i get it. I think he was being more sarcastic than anything. :)
@Alaberti Oops, sorry i changed my channel to my other one, but it's also me Fun Film...😁
I'm editing 4K footage from my Panasonic GH4 on my MacBook M1 Pro with 32BG RAM and have had zero issues with all the test topics you covered. IMO the Mac Mini Pro is a great option for editors on a budget. If you can afford the MacBook M1 Pro that is a SOLID option due to its portability...I love being able to bring mine out on a shoot to capture footage to a portable HD right away. If you've got deep pockets and want to look cool, well I guess go for the Mac Studio. Great review...thanks Parker!
you're right entry level M1 & M2 with 32Go RAM are enough for 4K panasonic codecs.
cuz files from GH4 even 4k are less compressed comparing with Sony a7s-3 , 4k 10 bit h265 .
@parker walbeck part of your FTF, i ordered this exact config 3 days ago... on the M2 pro, but added the 10 Gigabit Ethernet also, using student discount thru course. (just starting watching now.. but noticed)... now to watch the video... EDIT: also ive heard the lowest lvl of SSD is actually a single chip and goes a lot slower then the 1TB so that is worth noting for making sure to upgrade to the 1TB from the 512
Once you upgrade the mini that far… go Studio with M2 Max now that it is released, quieter than M1 Max version, and way more GPU cores… The Ultra is really for huge editing….
Your editing 8k footage?? I grabbed the Pro with the same specs only 16 GB. I hope thats enough for 4k edits! Thoughts??
HI Parker, very nice video... I was searching for this comparison and you did a great job, many thanks. What about a new macbook 2023 for a youtuber that can't invest so much to obtain a powerful machine like Mac Studio but having the chance to use it outside home/office? Thanks in advance... Cheers. Max
Great review Parker! Did you get a chance to try with Apple ProRes to compare? Thanks :)
I think a really good comparison to see here would be between the Mac Mini M2 Pro and the Mac Studio M1 Max (and not Ultra). Spec'ed similarly, they are at the *exact* same price point, so you get a good shoot-out between the M1 Max and M2 Pro. My sense is (drawing from specs elsewhere) that the M1 Max will still match if not outperform the M2 Pro, and if buying now, I would go for the additional Studio ports, even if buying into the "older" silicon. There are significant design differences between the Pro and Max versions of the silicon, whereby the Max really shines for video processing, and what Apple has done is make the Max only available on the Studio build. Personally I am awaiting the Mac Studio *M2 Max*, as I think that will nail the best cost-to-performance ratio, worth paying a bit more for. Right now, the Mac Studio M1 Max is best-bang-for-buck.
i am currently looking at this exactly! haha
@@FatMandersonAnd, now that's it's available, did you go for it, and if yes, what is your experience?
I like that you had the chart with Premiere, Resolve and Final Cut because this tech can't be assessed properly unless the level of software optimization is at an equal par. The same can be said when you and others make the speed comparisons between machines where you tell people that system A is twice the price of system B, but not twice the speed. In those kind of comparisons we don't know at what percentage that the optimization of the software has reached in each system. So if system A is pushing at utilizing near 100% and system B is just idling, the future optimization of the software might actually make the more expensive option the better buy.
This is why one should invest in the "Max" version of the silicon chip if doing video processing.
Great review! I'm definitely happy with my M1 Max MacBook Pro!
Thank you for this video. I can confidently pick up the Mac mini as a startup UA-camr! Cheers
great video
Thanks for the real world review.
Just ordered the mini M2 pro you mentioned. A nice upgrade from the base M1 mini.
Thanks I am leaning towards your pick for the best bang for the buck M2 Mac mini pro with the 32 GB and 1TB upgrades.
What color profile you are using on your apple studio display when editing video ?
I have never clicked that fast on a button in a e-mail like on that one. Very valuable, thank you! 😂👍
Great comparison- great video. These text animations and sfx was sick bro, may u share where to find them (its 0:23-0:-28) 🤯🤯
Nice & Thanks :)
I’d be curious if the M2 Pro 12 core/19core GPU would make much difference. But also, a bit more time for programs to update. These M2 Pros are still pretty new. A solid comparison.
slightly faster bench time, zero relevance in the real world.
sold! thank you. Great comparison. Mac mini pro it is then.
Another great comparison. I'd only request that future tests include some of the most demanding tasks: Neat video noise reduction and flicker removal. Those always make my computer choke.
I don't hear the fan noise in my Studio as well. Just a slight whoosh sound. I don't understand the complaints on the noise.
Thank you for the video make more easy on selection.
Nice comparison! Make a After Effects comparison. Some projects are many heavy. Put the MacBook Pro in comparison too. I have a MacBook Pro 16" i9 32gb Ram and some template projects exports in 3 hours.
It’s like you turned all of my Google searches these past few days into a video.
That HDMI port is also easy to overlook but it could really come in handy for travel. I go to Lake Powell with my family every year and I could just use a TV on the houseboat as a monitor. It’s like a serious editing machine you can carry in a backpack and edit anywhere with any TV.
6:28 Bang by Foreign Figures and Steve Michels. Amazing song from them hands down. That music video deserves millions of views.
so tiny yet so powerful, fascinating to say the least
Amazing people still use Premiere when Davinci is available.
Would have liked to see a heavy timeline that is at least 20 minutes long.
Wonder if I should wait for a new Mac Studio or just get the Mac mini…
Timeline scrubbing is by far the most important thing for me.
Thanks, Parker, for the fantastic video!...BTW - Rumors suggest that Apple will not upgrade the Mac Studio since the silicon Mac Pro will be released soon which even more reason for M2 Mac Mini Pro purchases!
Mac mini with M2 Pro, not Mac mini Pro M2
can i process 4k log video smoothly on m2 pro ?
( on Premier )
Warp stabilizer is THAT slow? Wow. Can’t even imagine dealing with that. Thank you Resolve.
I have a question, does the M1 ultra studio chip work with the M1 iMac or does it work on ANY iMac including that pls answer anyone because im still trying to figure this out before buying 🙏
I know the M1 Studio Ultra stays pretty cool under load but how about the M2 Mini Pro when pushed to the max? Did it stay pretty cool also? Thanks.
M1 Ultra uses up to 215 watts, that is straight from Apple's website. So much for M1 efficiency, eh?
Do you have offline classes ???
The real question is how does it compare to my late 2013 MacBook Pro?
Thunderbort is my favorite new port
Any recommendations for a good monitor for the Mac mini? My pro 2 arrives in a few days and I’d like something for photo editing and light video. I’m not a professional and currently have a 27” 5k iMac.
That's good
Great!! Please someone has the motion graphics of minute 0:22 with the the price point? where we can buy them?
@@fulltimefilmmaker Thanks! I think it's not available on his shop right now... :(
can you do a logic review with both
I wood like see MacBook Pro16 M2 Max vs Mac Studio Ultra, I need Mac for Cinema 4D (rendering) my Mac Book Pro 15 i7 is not good
Very interesting review Parker! Thanks!
I have an M1 Pro MacBook Pro, and I'm consistently FLOORED with its performance. it handles any and all 4k footage with absolute ease, I create some graphic heavy timelines in some instances, and 6K Raw footage out of the BlackMagic?
It's like a hot knife through butter. Plus it doesn't get warm at all. I'm set for like the next 7 years. lol
As always, on the spot, no blablabla …👍
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Why is Red Overly optimize for Premiere Pro next to DaVinci and Apple ?
On the ultra, those are thunderbolt ports, not just usb c ports. It’s horrible that you didn’t make that distinction.
I think a better option would be the base Mac Studio over an upgraded M2 Mac Mini. It has more graphics cores and faster SSD speed for the price. A Refurbished Mac Studio is only $1800.
^^ This. The Mac Studio M1 Max.
Just curious what your thoughts are in the chat. I've always viewed the Mac mini as the best bang-for-buck computer, but if the budget is $1900 there are a lot of windows laptops that perform extremely well at this price point. Not to mention the added bonus of mobility and having a screen. I edit on Mac and Windows so no bias here. Just saying it's worth a thought. One of my machines I'm using currently is a Zephyrus with a 3080, 32gb and 1tb that was purchased for $1400. We also edit on the new MacBook pro (which I know is much more expensive than the Mac mini). I think there is great value in the $1000-2000 range if you aren't afraid to use Windows
I think for mobile MacBooks win, for desktop at that price point I do see the merits of considering a PC at that price point. I have never seen any windows laptop currently that competed with a MacBook *unplugged* , and that’s simply the physics of the ARM soc. Windows competitors in the laptop space just don’t perform as well in all circumstances, they seem to get worse battery life, have worse speakers, and software is hit or miss. But for desktop at that price range I think a PC is probably a very compelling option because battery and screen and speakers are irrelevant, and you have way more options for graphics and upgrades and gaming, including Linux for the OS.
@@ghost-user559 I hear ya, but have to say a lot of that is totally subjective. However there is no need to argue that. The point here is value for dollar. You aren't getting a new MacBook pro for the same value. So as far as money is concerned, the Windows laptop (for budget purposes) blows it out of the water
I would recommend to buy MacBook Pro M2 instead of the standalone Macs - you get portability, you have a really good screen
but I'm a musician who uses Logic. I've been using Logic since 2020 on a MacBook. it sucked... the tiny screen. moving to a Mac Mini with a 27" screen was the best thing I've done in years. I can have the Mixer on screen, as well as the DAW. portability is overrated. and if its really important; the Mac Mini is small enough to fit into a carry bag, not much bigger than a laptop in weight of size.
Leaving a like before even watching....
need video of s23 vs pro cam
Finally, the video I've been waiting for. I do wish you would have maxed out the Mac mini to make the comparison more comparable.
Pricing difference should have been shown with same ssd storage tb’s to keep it more honest
Parker is really alone now, more power to you,
I'm missing the team honestly
I am having latency issues on my new mac mini pro. network related. web pages load slow. wow is even having lag by 2kms. graphic performance is fantastic. it is just slow to act. I am wondering if it has something to do with low power mode. I have my m1 mac mini and no issues there at all. it is really weird.
Latency sort of fixed. it will need some software updates but for now i just disabled avb/eas
around 2:45, could you expand on the comment about fan noise? "I've never noticed any difference in fan noise, but the Mac mini Pro is quieter than the Studio". how so?
why does warp stabilizer take so long in a 3 second video ? curious because I am planning on getting the M2 PRO but that seams a lot of time for stabilizing a 3 second clip, I use warp stabilizer a lot on 6k footage on my 4 year old windows laptop and it takes less time, usually a minute with 20 seconds+ files, this is a concern for me ...
probably there was already color correction on it. cause it was a nested sequence, and he said in the video he put color correction on it to make it more realistc. I always stabilize first and than doing the other effects. Makes warp stabilizer much faster!
@@patriziodemitri still I think that’s quite some time, I apply effects and color grading to adjustment layers so the clip stays original, warp stabilizer shouldn’t take more time because like that 🤔 that’s why I’m debating now …
@@AndyLSB i know. but sometimes premiere is just buggy. I tried right now a test for you on the same mac studio parker is using in the video on an a7sIII slog3 clip which is 5 seconds long and it took 8 seconds to stabilize. With color correction etc. and yeah, you were right. This time it didnt make any difference if there were already effects or not
@@patriziodemitri oh awesome ! Appreciate the feedback ! I just want to make a wise decision.
Would love an update on who's currently part of the Team. Great video.
@@fulltimefilmmaker Sounds good. I'll go check it out. Keep at it!
Dude you have two . Give me the mac mini . Or i have to buy one selling my kidney.
that's a simple timeline. you should test on timeline of this video or previous video - the real world test with audio, sound, overlay,.... Not just some simple 4,5clips put together.
thxxxxx
How do the new Mac M2-s stack up wit PC-s?
Is the Mac really best bang for buck or can you get a decent PC for that money?
You have to factor in the Operating System and downtime due to security upgrades. Make a Pro-Contra List with all the points that are important to you.
@@paulhorn24 we've used win and mac and prefer win any time for multitasking. Macs are bad with Windows 😉
Downtime is not an issue. Rather the bang for buck hardware capability wise.
@@Arvutimaailm Windows on ARM computers seems to be very bad currently, as several reviewers have proven.
@@paulhorn24 If ARM itself is a must have.
Great review Parker.
M1 iMacs suck with C70 footage. Especially with warp stabilizer.
Not sure why for graphics you didn't choose 19 Core GPU on Mac mini
Dude just has the best content.
I sold my 2018 I-9 32 GB ram, and bought the M2Pro Mini w 32 GB ram. My mini beats the crap out of the i-9, especially the graphics! I rendered a new 60GB 4K video from Final Cut Pro with all the bells and whistles in just 90 seconds!!!! It even makes my R13 look lame!
Love it when you young people talk about the high price of Apple products. Steve Jobs unveiled the first Mac I ever owned the 1984 Apple Macintosh computer with a $2,500.00 US price tag. Today adjusted for inflation cost of that original 1984 Apple McIntosh would be $7,281.58 US.
I feel the Apple Mac mini both M2, and M2 Pro are in the consumer part of the grid with no black Apple logo stickers. The Apple Mac mini M2 Pro does fill the hole in the Apple product line between the Apple Mac mini M2, and the Apple Mac Studio M1 Max.
If you need to purchase a host system with all the ports, and you are using it in a professional production environment. If you need it to just work with everything you throw at it. Which system do you think you should purchase?
We need 2 more USba ports and latest gen SD card upgradeable by the consumer ssd and memory.
IMPORTANT!! DaVinci resolve users!!! I bought the Mac Studio M2 Ultra with 24 core CPU, 60 core GPU 64GB memory and 1 TB internal drive. Adding noise reduction and sharpening to a clip in DaVinci, it plays back a little jerky in the Edit window but doesn't slow down but in the color window the audio is garbled and it's slowing down and jerky. Will be returning this Mac Studio. I ordered the 76 core Mac Studio with 128GB of memory with 2TB internal drive. Hope that will work.
Cool 😎 ❤
I love your reviews but as a Nikon video shooter I'm offended we weren't mentioned! the Nikon Z9 has changed the game! come ooooon, can we get some respect? lol!
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