$14,000 Mac Pro vs $900 M1 Mac Mini - Video Editing Speed Comparison
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I use an Intel Core 9, with 64gb RAM Dell XPS17… and im starting to realize my real problem is actually Premiere Pro. Is clunky as hell.
use gpu encoding
Maybe you are not cooling your System well enough, and it could also depend on which i9 you are using. There is one that is beefier, and the newer one which has less Cores. I personally switched to AMD long ago
Delete cashe files, update your drivers. Update your software.
Optimized Davinci Resolve 17.1 is available for M1 Macs and they perform surprising well, better than premiere pro.
could it handle fusion well?
Yes I used Da Vinci resolve 17 on a base model MacBook Air M1 and it was phenomenal 🔥
This is such a great news. I have shifted to Davinci Resolve & planning to buy a mac for all the non gaming stuff, having the MacBook Air M1 & M1 Mini in mind. I think I'll wait a bit more for the next M series of chips.
@@ravinchandra I don't think the next M1 successor chip would be as aggressively priced as this one. This costs less only because it's their very first product and a lot of companies and developers need to optimize their software for this processor.
*This M1 costs less because they want you and companies to have a smooth transition to M1 chip. That's all.*
@@hrinaldy maybe
Haven’t even watched this yet but I’ve been waiting for a video like this before deciding what to pick up!
My gosh that wedding footage was incredible, far out 🙀
Definitely like your Mac videos. I don’t really come for the information cause that I learn on my own but I can sure appreciate good video editing and yours is one of my favorites when it comes to Mac reviews and comparisons so I always come back just to watch and enjoy a good video
I have the M1 Mac Mini and been buying Macs for 30 years. This is hands down the best value price/performance Mac ever. Great times for Mac users.
Same experience, I bought mine for $599 on Prime day. My I7 2011 Macbook Pro lasted 10 years and was still fast for it's age, but this Mac mini flys. I'm very happy with it :)
finally, someone giving actual editing information - thank you
This information is false. Premiere is not optimized for m1 yet
@@XtremeGamingYT1 It is correct. Premire might be slower, but he also showed FCP. Whenever you color grade or use any effect on the footage and then edit, the problems will start. That is because the software needs a fast dedicated graphics card for that and the M1 Mini doesn't have one. Playing back a file is NOT editing. Even my DVD player can playback a movie!
great work as usual.
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I forgot what I was watching for a min cause I was just watching the footage you had playing. These shots are crazy. The drone shots are elite
Parker, I wish you’d tested with Final Cut Pro as well. Using Premiere in emulation doesn’t tell us much. Bad software running in emulation will of course be less than stellar. Everything you claim to be laggy on the M1 using Premiere would be vastly improved, or maybe completely fixed, if you were using FCP. My M1 MacBook Pro absolutely crushes 4k and 8k video from my Canon R5 in FCP, blowing the doors off my fully loaded 16” MBP with Intel inside.
Had exactly the same thought. Seems like apples and oranges until Adobe has native apps…
Totally agree. DaVinci resolve would have been good too.
Interesting, btw which mac book pro spec did you take, I'm seriously considering that or the mac mini, performance wise are they the same?
@@QippysChannel I’m on the 16” MBP with 32 gigs of ram and maxed out graphics and I will say the M1 macs are just way smoother. If you can wait, I would wait for a 16” M1 MacBook than spending the 3K-4K for the top intel one.
M1 chips can playback footage from canon R5 using quicktime or vlc?
Thanks for the explanation!!! Great work.
Absolute great content,love it
Great video Parker!
That shot with the waves in the background...dang. I need to shoot a wedding at a sweet location 😮
Great content , straight and to the point
Thanks for the information on the m1 mac mini. Great work!
Be careful with your comparative percentages. If MP does a task in 50s and MM does it in 125s, then MP is 2.5X faster than MM. But that's not the same as 250% faster. It is 150% faster. If something is 100% faster, then it is double the speed. So 150% faster is double the speed, plus another 50% of the base (slower) speed.
An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200% of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial). In other words, the quantity has doubled. so you are right
Math
You need to also be sure that the % is based on the original variable, and there’s a technicality in your comment as well. If MP is 50s and MM is 125s, then you can say it took MM 2.5x longer, therefore it’s 1.5x slower compared to MP. If talking about one of them being faster, you’d say the MP finished in 40% of the time, therefore it’s 60% faster compared to MM.
@@Bloodshade your words are 110% correct my G
haider Safi I cringed when I heard the guy say 250% faster on the video. 100% faster would mean it took 0 seconds, so he’s time traveling apparently lol
great video as alwayse!
can u guys make a video that talks about the differences between glidcam and electronic gimbals for wedding videography?
thanks alot and alot of love! ❤
I totally called it when I thought the couple footage looked like they were at the LDS Hawaii temple! Great video.
Would love to see this same video using Davinci Resolve.
You forgot to mention one of the biggest benefits to the Mac mini, easily taking it with you anywhere, especially if you travel a lot.
When this video was done, my mac mini couldn’t even play my timeline and said it would take over 20 hours to render. After the new updates (Davinci Resolve) it plays the same project smooth and renders (with upscaling) in under 20 minutes.
he did mention it...may be u skipped
Great video! I was curious about how the Mac mini is. Now I have a better idea. Thanks!
Super helpful thank you! I am deciding between these 2 computers. And I shoot on all the same equipment you tested C70, R5, and DJI P4P and I live on Maui where I shoot a lot of weddings so this video was literally made for me haha can’t thank you enough for the insight! Let me know if you need a second shooter in Hawaii 🤙🏼
I TOTALLY Agree with your suggestion to get the upgraded RAM. I edit everything on the new M1 Macbook Air. Granted, I am only working with Canon M50 footage, and some iphone 12 pro footage as well. It's PERFECT for newer creators on a lower budget who want a laptop that's portable but can still do some creative work. But I didn't upgrade my RAM and I very much regret it. If I'm exporting a project for UA-cam, I can't work in photoshop without seriously lagging or increasing render time. But the render is still very fast for the price. But all that to say: upgrade your RAM from the 8GB
Great vid, but it would be more relevant to compare the performance with the Premiere beta which is optimized for M1 or DaVinci Resolve / FCPX
11:55 beautiful video for your brother and his wife... Good video as always
Bro I visit to your country please sponsor me for a trip and the visa
Man you always release this stuff right when I need it, something serendipitous going on. Thanks brother!
I went from a 2013 mac pro to a m1 mac mini, its sooooo good, I use I professionally for video and photo.
What are the specs for your Mac did you get the 8GB or 16GB
Thanks for the video, may wait for the m1x!
bought the 8gb ram Mac mini a month ago and I have edited two long form videos on it so far, utilizing Adobe dynamic link with After effects Keylight, and 4k footage. took about 1 hour to render a 24 minute video (Which normally goes on for about 5 hours on my iMac (without the dynamic link))
Totally recommend the Mac mini
Video of you work please.?
Have you ever wondered that not all 4k videos are heavy like raw and low bitrate?
I would like to see that speed that you claim in a video showing the time counter.
Davinci Resolve would not struggle with 4K if media optimisation is set up right.
I do however believe in spending the extra on computing choice for forward compatibility reasons.
My 2014 MacBook Pro is still a true powerhouse because I paid for every possible upgrade Apple had to offer at the time of purchase.
Thank you Parker. The MacBook Air is a possible consideration for in-studio tethering as a permanent station hooked to an external monitor.
Congratulations to your brother and your sister in law 🥂💐
Wow...I thought the review was great and on point...then you added the sliver of video of the wedding...all I can say honestly is...mind blown. Really good clip!
Nice vid!! Can always count on you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Where is your beautiful MacBook case from?!?!?!
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@@wonow7674 thanks so much! I spent so long looking for it last night! Legend 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I'm loving these mini computer ideas. First saw Asus mini CPU at Potato Jet's channel.
Looking forward to have one soon 🙂
When comparing the Mini to the iMac, its not just the monitor that needs to be accounted for in the $700 price difference. Include keyboard, mouse, camera, speakers, and microphone. Yes, you could source these for less than $700.
If you are into video editing you need proper stutio monitors anyway, the built-in speakers in the iMac is usless for any creaive work. Use the microphone on your headset for video calls, or your shootgun mic. Everyone has a mouse. On top of that you still need a dock, card reader and stuff for your iMac. The iMac only makes sense for content consumers, not for content creators.
LOL no professional’s going to use the built in speakers on the iMac for mixing, nor will they care about the built in camera and microphone. and you can get a far nicer, larger, more colour accurate panel to work on which you can upgrade in the future, the whereas iMac you’re stuck with whatever Apple gives you and have to buy a whole new system. The mini has 10gig Ethernet option as well. Yeah you can use an external monitor with iMac but it won’t be a very clean looking setup (even a 2nd 24inch panel won’t match) and not everyone has room for 2 panels.
I agree, but I still think the Mini is the better deal because if the screen/speakers/webcam fails or you want an upgrade, it can be replaced without having the old broken or unused one still installed.
No one who buys Apple should care about making a good Deal or spending less Money
No kidding a high end 54” monitor costs $200 lol
Good info. I suspect you will do a follow up once the apps are fully optimized for the M1? What about tests/compaisons with codecs other than C70 which are not "tough to read codec"? Sounds like that Codec is half the battle.
Great info!!!
Need an update with the M1 optimized Premiere and maybe even DaVinci Resolve. It's burning through footage remarkably well.
Love my Mac Mini. It handles H.265 files very well without proxies or optimized media in Davinci Resolve. I haven’t had to optimized in media in months. Also no in Davinci with color grading
I've never owned an apple computer and I believe 2021 will not end before I get one,,seems smooth when editing
Great comparison btw
I wonder if some of the issues you experience with with Mac mini will be solved as soon as the software is optimized for the M1.
Thanks guys!!
good to know that M1 Mini can hold its own, defiantly looking for an upgrade.
Anything but a mac. Go for a higher end AMD rig.
The footage you shot is beautiful.
Thanks Parker, this was really useful. Im a newbie UA-camr and the screen on my 2015 Macbook Pro died (yes, its Flexgate!). So i was wondering whether I could get away with spending less money and going for the Mac Mini. Im certainly not doing anything super fancy or technical with my videos at the moment, so it sounds like the Mini with the 16GB memory would do just fine. Thanks again for your video!
No issues with video I just wish u had included the full specs of both systems in the video description still liking it
legendary are back
I have heard that FCPX is better at handling footage than premiere, despite the computer specs.
FCP is 5 times faster than Premiere and have way better user interface and reliability.
True
Yup, and Davinci Resolve is almost as fast as FCPX now. Premiere is the fat kid in the race, crossing the finish line last each and every time... usually tripping over it.
@@77dris which one is advisable to buy, I just started learning video editing… FCP or Davinci Resolve Studio, the prices are same, though I can’t consider Premiere Pro cos the subscription is not worth it for me, better still, can u suggest any video editing software for beginners
@@vladimirtalijan disagree user interface iMovie 🤢🤢🤢
buying an apple computer and use premiere pro doesnt make much sense to me
I‘d use final cut pro to take advantage of the apple power
I’ve hear this before, is this true? I’ve only ever edited in Premier Pro on a Mac. I really don’t want to learn a whole new editing system and I really don’t want to leave the Apple eco system as everything I have is Apple. But if editing is really that much better maybe I should switch to Final Cut or Davinci?
@@davinphelps1863 I would give it at least a try and if you don’t like it then you can still stick to what you’re used to… as far for picture editing there are not really good alternatives to adobe from apple… I still use photoshop and lightroom
@@davinphelps1863 Final cut is very easy to get into
Are you running using x64 PP on Rosetta 2 or or native ARM PP Beta? Either way it isn’t a fair comparison. You would have harvested more of M1’s performance using FCPX especially when it comes to rendering.
Is that the LDS Hawaii temple?!! Awesome
Shouod have made your Final Cut Pro editor do this video…waaay superior than any intel mac when using FCP on M1.
Premire might be slower for the M1 Chip, but he also showed FCP. Whenever you color grade or use any effect on the footage and then edit, the problems will start.. That is because ANY software needs a fast dedicated graphics card for that and the M1 Mini doesn't have one. Playing back a file is NOT editing. Even my DVD player can playback a movie!
I love my M1 Macbook pro its a beast!
Honest review 👍
Now that the Mac Studio has been announced, do you plan to get one of those for your studio? And if so, will you plan to do a review on it?
Good video, would like to see how DaVinci Resolve performance comparison.
I love the M1 Mac, however, these machines are purpose built for video editing. The CPU has special hardware that makes these tasks ultra fast. As a general use computer, it makes an amazing laptop, due to it's power consumption. As a small form factor desktop, you can get smaller, more performant, windows machines, if video editing is not part of your workflow.
B- B-But it’s apple
I don't do video editing, but use Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. I mostly create websites and digital artwork. Do you think the Mini 16GB/512RAM is good enough? Or, should I wait to see if a new Mini comes out in November? Thank in advance!
The only example I know of where the Mac Pro shines is in multiple Avid PCI cards used with Pro Tools Audio. Doing 6K or 12K video is still more economical using a WinPC. The big Mac Pro can deliver and edit the next project at the same time with ease. The Mini slows down, so much so, that scrubbing and editing is full of latency.
That color grade is on another level
Final cut on my m1 air is crazy. I edit 5 layers of 4K but this thing (base model) slices through it like butter
I switched to Mac because of final cut and it was so worth getting this MacBook (even the base model)
My 8Gb RAM M1 Mac Mini scrubs flawlessly through 4K footage from my C200 and my EOS R. But I edit in FCP.
After dozens of YT-vids about M1 Macs (always with performance tests), I feel like knowing a lot about video editing... In fact, the only thing I really do concerning video is pausing Netflix when going to the fridge.
Far more interested in FCP since the optimizations on it take far more advantage of the M1 chip. Good to see premiere performance though! Thanks dude.
You mention using proxies on the M1 for editing. I do that for all my projects on my Late 2015 iMac 27". Granted my videos are pretty simple and don't require a lot of editing. The way you're referring to proxies it makes it seem like that's a problem? I don't see a dramatic difference in the quality of the footage I'm shooting when using a proxy for editing. To me, the only thing holding me back when it comes to creating my videos is how long it takes to export. Luckily my videos aren't too long, and when I am exporting I'm going to be done doing anything serious with my iMac so it doesn't matter if it takes a long time. Is using proxies really that bad?
I am assuming the issue is mostly that of time. To end up with over an hour of final project it means you have far more of raw footage. It will slow you down. Of course if you waste say a day rendering everything, is that a huge deal for a large project? I don't know, I guess it depends.
Good morning ! which iMac i could use with 6k blackmagic camera including Atem Mini Pro ISO, if you can help me with the details, thanks
Wild Walbeck, are you gonna compare your Mac Pro to the new Macbook Pros that dropped last month?
You should do a follow up video now that Adobe has come out with a beta of Premiere Pro that is M1 comparable to see the performance difference.
depend on what videos and what you need it. If you need to edit and make color corrections on video raw or QuickTime Pro res 4 k 10 bits with Davinci Resolve, the MacPro 7.1 is better than a Mac mini. But if you need to cut and paste some videos with a minimal color correction, so the Mac mini will work for you-
Those biceps are gorgeous!
I edit on my mac mini with i7. I work not only on my UA-cam channel but all other professional projects. The important thing is that the old mac mini (not M1) has an option of using an external GPU and with that, my little mac is a real monster :) I work with 4K and big projects with no problem.
Making proxies isn’t wasting time. It’s proper workflow. H.264 is for delivery not editing. That’s why you have an issue on both machines. You should have done some real tests like transcoding footage, round tripping files from Pr to AE, and performed some editing in a mezzanine codec.
R5 outputs h264
Will you re-test once the final release is made with Premier? Also, how do the same two machines perform in FCP and Resolve?
I an considering getting both a Mac Pro and Macbook Pro. Macbook for traveling and Mac Pro for home. Thoughts? Would you still buy one with the M1 Max in the Macbook Pro?
How about a windows with the same price as Mac mini? What would be better for editing?
Nice video I will get the mini one thx a lot, please upload a video on best laptop for editing
The Mac mini m1x is coming soon
@@razoado8557 yes I'll get o
It soon
I been wanting to switch to a different editing software for sometime, I own a pc that I built myself and it runs adobe pretty well but I've ALWAYS felt like it could do better, I can't do FCP since thats an apple thing but uh is there any recommendations? All I know of is da Vinci resolve but id like more options
I would probably stick with the mac mini and just buy and external monitor with recording abiblity, ie Blackmagic Assist 12g..Then you could shoot Prores 422 10 bit which the mac mini should be able to handle very well :)
Good video.
Sorry to bother. Would you consider doing same test for Davinci Resolve ? I'm quite curious on your thoughts as ppl say it's better optimized.
And if even possible would be great to see a test with BMPCC6k pro
Cool compare... Premiere has allready a beta version that works better then the last version for the M1... Hope the build will be out soon...
Parker, have you had issues with multiple monitors on Apple devices with the M1 chip?
Parker, I immediately press like when I see your videos on UA-cam even before I watched it. You achieved hi standard I learned a lot from you and enjoyed many of your videos.
what would be the next step up from the Mac Mini?
Killer comparison! I really dog your reviews. Thx
Nice to u see u again
Editing with proxy is the best way, every industry follows this process for offline editing. Proxy editing in NLE softwares ---> link it to original in resolve and take it for online.
How do you utilize two computers with a server so one can render and the other is free to continue working on? In my estimation, a single top end computer is not even close to as efficient as having a dual computer workstation. Thoughts?
I use the M1 mac mini with 8gb of ram and it runs great in DaVinci Resolve. Premiere pro works fine unless you use h.265 HEVC files. It just won't play them, while resolve plays everything smoothly. It's obviously optimisation issues and I hope it will be better with new updates, as a lot of people use Adobe software.
Now these are the Vids that I want to see!!! 😅 I do love all ur vids tho😁
awesome... that's true..
One question. I am going to buy Mac Pro 16 Core with 5700xt. Do you recommend that I should go ahead ? I am not a fan of M1 but I like to get with Ice Lake if it is something thaty will be out soon.
If the baseline M1s are this capable just imagine how crazy fast will be the M1X Mac Pros
No Apple silicon in Mac Pro until the very very end of the transition
It depends whats crazy for you, youtuber moaning " insaneee" when they show only numbers not real videos running on screen will give you a wrong impresion
As spare time editor working everyday with m1 and mbp 8 core i7 m1 is not that fast.
If We Create Audio Song Which Is The Best Mini Mac For Audio Creation?
How do you think it will handle a73/s3/a1 footage? Do you think we would have issues scrubbing as much as the c70?
Your tutorials are just the best ever
i always like the intro
Native update just released. Premiere is fully native now.
I have an M1 Mac Mini with only 8GB of RAM, and it renders video so much faster than my Windows PC. I don’t do huge videos, but a 3 minute 1080p video takes me less than a minute to export to mp4.
Takes me 30 secs to export 4k on my PC you must have had a shitty PC. M1 is nice but don't compare it to PC because PC would wipe the floor with a few upgrades.
@@EleReyProductions a german filmmaker did a detailled test. When it comes to exporting speed the M1 is not so Bad and comparable to PC. However, all uses during editing (playback, effects, fusion, Color grading) the msi creative is about twice to five Times faster than M1. Most interesting is that AI Performance is about 20 Times higher on PC.
@@EleReyProductions Pcs are fine the problem is that shitty os they run on called windows and their apps.Whats the point of having a monster that can drill a hole i the center of the earth if you have to run premiere and cubase on it....better have a nice streamlined quiet machine that ll run Final cut and Logix pro X on it like butter.
@@Dreamdancer11 everyone complains about this but I haven’t ran into any problems. I have a i9 10900k 3080 to 64g ram 1tb nvme 2tb hard drive. 800 dollar monitor and to be honest I don’t have an issue with os
@@EleReyProductions Τhats great for you but you see we dont all wanna have a nuclear reactor on our desk,noisy,have to cool it with some liquid cooler and deal with a bulky box eating up space....and although we can go to smaller form factor solutions we still have to accept the fact that we should run windows and windows arent that efficient handling their resources and streamlined for a certain hardware.Iam not knocking it or anything but if there is a choice i would go with the os tailor made for the hardware anytime.
Hello sir Big fan from India. Request you to make video on Colour Grading and correction= DI