M2 Pro Mac Mini Real World Editing - Vs Mac Studio & PC in Resolve.
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Taking the M2 Pro Mac Mini Through my workflow in Davinci Resolve and comparing it's performance to the M1 Max Mac Studio and a Custom Built Windows PC.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Opener
00:46 - Camera, Footage, and Setup
02:32 - The Initial Edit
03:28 - Audio
03:58 - Color
05:07 - Timeline Responsiveness
05:37 - Project 1 Render
05:49 - Second Project Setup
06:11 - Working in Fusion
07:42 - Heavier Effects
09:04 - Timeline and Render Performance
09:28 - Mac Studio Performance Timelime 1
10:36 - Mac Studio in Timeline 2
10:58 - The PC's Performance Timeline 1
11:39 - PC in Timeline 2
15:15 - Comparison Conclusions
16:19 - Let's be Real
17:14 - Final Thoughts
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Update: I finally got the project to render on the PC. Interestingly I just disabled Resizable BAR and it rendered in 19 min 21 sec. I think the system was just flooding the VRAM with too much data all at once.
Hi was the 19:21 with the noise reduction nodes?
@@MrCollindbrowne Yes
@@ElevatedSystems I have the exact same issues with my RTX 3060 Ti. During render it crashes Resolve. Totally unuseable. My Resizable BAR was already disabled so I decided to turn it on to see if it has any affect. On the MAC side this never happens.
Next time, just pre-render the clip or enable caching on the NR node in the color page.
I just retired after 40 years as a system and silicon designer and then manager of design teams for PC and PC components. This is the best real life test I ever seen for audio-video applications and it proves the true that all the pro already knew. Thank you for your hard work.
Hey, thanks for your comment. I was here just to briefly take a look on comparison results, since I've already watched plenty of videos about M2 cpus and I'm kind of tired of them. But after your comment I realized that I've missed something between intro and results. You were absolutely right, full video is brilliant. Thank you once again and even more thanks to the author
Dude, you're the only reviewer I'm gonna trust going forward. This was incredible. Our studio has run on Macs for 14 years but we're not entirely happy with Apple's current direction. As we consider PC's for the first time, just hearing the word crash is off-putting. 14 years. No crashes. Granted, a more powerful PC would've handled it, but still something to keep in mind as we move forward. Oh! Also! All these UA-camrs just test export performance - when studios could care less. We export overnight. Watching you actually edit was so so helpful!! Thank You!
While I am long-term PC user and I would never buy Apple for my personal use, the stability of the systems used in video production is unbelievable - running weeks no restart, working with large networked storage arrays, etc. I believe it's not really about the HW, but only about the fact that there is less variability in Mac than in PC and therefore a bit easier for the devs to catch the exceptional cases - such as the demoed workflow here in the video.
But if you are a pro and your time translate directly to money, one crash on specific place in timeline might make all the difference between nice revenue and painful loss.
Good luck in your business!
To be fair, DaVinci is not super stable on any platform. Crashes happen all the time, at least on the forums I follow.
Crash? I know guys on engineering running workloads for 3 ,5 weeks 24x7 nonstop on amd TR WIN10.
@@Teluric2 ok cool! very encouraging
@@Teluric2 with pcs and the millions of different parts and drivers and combinations available, there’s always a higher risk of crashes. indeed, one can create the right combination of everything and you get a super stable pc.. but getting that combination right takes knowledge and a bit of luck.
Killer video! It was refreshing to watch someone create an actual video project on both rather than compare them based on synthetic benchmark tests.
Facts
Yes! This is a real editing review. Not just a export test that everyone other reviewer is doing. Keep it up!
I agree. Tired of synthetic benchmarks
He could also just have used Puget Systems DaVinci Resolve benchmark test. It does the same.
Difference is, he don't get the feeling on how smooth the timeline runs. But unlike his test, you can be assured, every benchmark does exactly the same.
Just what I was looking for. Thanks for creating.
You're very welcome!
I just started learning about video editing and need a new mac... your behind the scene and review is really helpful! Thanks so much.
This is awesome and very useful. Much appreciated. I'm stuck buying the MBPM2 16" one step above base to avoid the dreaded, but probably not important SSD cripple. I need the better screen to help my eyes. But this is so great to see you even got into fusion. My current Macbook M1Air gets completely useless on those. Great info and thank you!
I love the comparison of a real world test, similar priced competition and the point about balancing the budget of shooting equipment with editing.
This is how a PROFESSIONAL review should be done! Thanks a lot :)
Great video. Thorough analysis. I always come away impressed with your unlimited knowledge of whatever project you’re working on. From digital and 3D art to video editing to building PC’s, everything looks like you make your living doing just that. Have you ever said what training or degree you received that included such a broad range of professions?
ALWAYS AWESOME!!! Thank you for your hard work. Blessings
Awesome work! Thank you for another awesome video!
Really fantastic job, very informative and helpful
I actually was looking for this exact video
Wow, this is one of those videos that you save in your playlist and watch 2 or 3 times to make you've captured everything its communicating, and then you watch it *again* because there was more to learn. What an awesome video!!!! Stumbled across this on YT seeking answers to the same decision between buying the Mini M2 Pro and Studio M2 Max where my setup, workflow and skill level is similar as yours. You freaking rock, I've subscribed!!
Great video! You just got yourself a new subscriber, sir!
Bravo my main man! Excellent video. 👍🏻
Excellent Video. Thank you very much for your impressive efforts.
Wow, a genuinely useful M2 editing video! well done mate, keep it up!
Now, this is genuine and useful review!!
Great Video Buddy and that Old school BMX caught my eye with the white Tuffs that i seen twice at super speed…🤓
The amount of work involved is crazy
You set up looks great 👍 your room has a lot of sound blocks I imagine to avoid any sound going back to the mics congrats I enjoy your videos ❤
Thanks a lot for your video ! I'm a DoP as well as a colorist and I use a mac mini m1 with 16gb since it's launch, and it has been great ! I need to drop the timeline resolution to 1/4 on my grading projects because of the amount of nodes and effects but works good enough. The only downside is that the export time takes a lot, so i was looking for a replacement, because as you said, for us working professionals, time is money !
I was considering going for the base mac mini m2 pro but seeing the export times, made me realize that it will be better to spend a couple more and go for the Studio.... Well, i might just wait for the m2 max studio version to get the best of both worlds, thanks a lot for your video !
14:25 reasoned like a true professional! Well done, subbed! Pragmatically it looks like Resolve is now optimized for the Mac ARM computers more than for PC, hope Blackmagic made the right decision if this is the case.
Shooting on high-end camera systems and then thinking of editing on mid-tier computer systems is such a good point. It should be balanced. Great video! I've thought of switching to a mac, this was helpful
Synthetic benchmarks have their place, but it's really valuable to see where the pain points are likely to be for various hardware setups in a real workflow.
love this!!!!! true comparison no doubt!
Thanks for the content. Much appreciated
My pleasure!
What you said at the end, thank you. The amount of times I have said about the HDMI 2.1 and its 8k. If I could afford an 8k monitor and I was working with people shooting 8k then I would have more than my base macstudio, that's just one example though and again, glad you spoke the words. Looking sharp nowadays, have yourself an image consultant now??!!😉
Super interesting comparisons, lots of great work. I do wonder how well the performance translates to premiere.
I'm going to default to the daily Premiere users this time, but my experience is that performance is usually relative to what you see in Resolve.
Thank you so much for your effort super great video!
In Europe PC Mac Studio M1 Max 10Core GPU 24C 64GB costs 3200 euros. For that price you can buy an Intel 13700K with RTX 4080 64GB 3 TB RAM 6000Hz. And of course in a couple of years the PC can be redesigned: a new processor and a better graphics card. But with PC Mac Studio there is nothing you can do, you can only resell it if they buy it. Mac Studio M1 good not a big PC, but you also need to take into account the fact that now developing neural networks and how it will work with these applications is not clear. Just slicing video and substituting text does not need a computer for a few thousand, if you have DaVinci you should already use all the features. That's why you need a serious machine for work or hobby.
Thank you for the video.
Yeah, I was considering a Mac Studio last year. Unfortunately the lead time was about half a year at that point for the configuration I wanter. I ended up buying a PC with practically better specs and save a 1000 euros or so. I'm very happy with my purchase. Neural network stuff works as well or maybe even better on an RTX, right?
To be honest, in the PC there is also not much you can do. After, let's say 2-3 years, if you would like to upgrade, you will have to buy new processor, probably new MOBO, because of the new processor standard. New graphic card if you want to. Also, you have to buy new power supply, bcs the old one is for sure too weak to handle new processor and graphic card. You will have to probably buy new RAM, bcs of the new standard or even not to bottleneck processor and graphic card. So you are now left only with old SSD. Of course, if you would like to upgrade RAM or SSD it will be cheaper. Later, you can sell old parts or keep it. The same with Apple products, which, however, hold the price for a long time and you can sell
@Dominik Malyszka I understand you never built a custom PC in your life. 🤣
@@dominik.malyszka I have never quite understood why people are ready to pay so much for used macs that usually can't be repaired if something breaks. Also at this point the resell value of most Intel Macs is approaching zero. Do we know yet when will Apple kill x86 support?
@@hbp_ Dunno, people like to overpay for new macs with better specs for sake of "future proofing" yet not considering that in 3 years new macs will be faster for less money they spent. Now it's better to upgrade each 18 months and sell old mac. Resell value will still be high and people will still pay same price yearly for using computer
Edit. Forgot to mention that this way you have Apple warranty almost all the time (2/3 time you have mac)
Excellent content!
Can I edit fully uncompressed Red Raw 26-K footage and IMAX Panavision RAW on an Amazon Firestick? Loved the video, especially the bit about using a mid-tier system for ultra high end cameras. Great stuff! Very much appreciated.
I was considering going back to using Windows, but I've been using Mac for over 12 years. I work with video, and DaVinci never crashed or had any issues. Thank you very much for reminding me to stick with Mac for my next upgrade. Hahaha Hardware isn't everything... software plays a big part in the final experience.
Great video! Do you have access to a fully loaded M2 pro to compare to the M1Max? I just ordered one for my LightRoom editing after seeing some LightRoom specific tests showing it beat the base studio in that type of work. The Studio almost always seems to win on video editing but I was wondering how the spec’ed out mini pro might work.
Talk about elevated! Give us a few more tech specs before editing--just so we don't get lost.😎
This dude is awesome. Knows his stuff like the back of his hands..
Great review! Im just about to publish my review of the Mac Studio M2 Max for videographers, photographers, and creative professionals and I LOVE the Studio with the M2 MAX chip.
Hey mate, did you ever use Silicon Graphics kit back in the day ? I wonder what they would be pumping out now if they were still in business.
The ARM based macs with shared memory, premium build and BSD operating system share a lot in common with SGI of old
My whole life I bought pc's,each new video game required an upgrade wich costed hundreds of dollars (in my case euro's) Switching to Playstation and Xbox solved that problem. Then starting with very simple video editing on a pc. Well in 2000 that sucked so I quit. Now in 2023 I bought a mac studio. What a dream of a machine. Coming from a pc it takes time to get used too. But everything runs butter smooth. Fast and no crashes ever..love it. It's a big step af using ps's for 24 years but worth the switch. No fan noise,errors..or blue screen fatal errors..😂 Thanks for the outstanding reviews which made me switch to Mac and I'm so happy with it..regards from Holland..keep up the good work..
I like what you said about mixing the camera cost to the workstation cost. I'm still on a Lumix gx80/85, h264 4k, do you think the base Mac mini with the higher ram would be an option? Using free resolve? TIA
This video is fab. Both as a review is the M2 Mac Mini, but also a great behind the scenes look at how your videos & common effects come together.
It’s encouraging me to have to a go at some video editing :)
I was with you - last March if they had offered the Mac mini Pro - I would have grabbed it in a heartbeat. Instead they released the Mac Studio and it took me 5 mins before I ordered the Mac Studio base unit and traded in my Mac mini on it to soften the $$ blow. I have been happy ever since. All I can say about the Mac mini pro is it is 9 months or so too late. I have the MacBook Pro 14" as my road computer. But in the end - The Mac Studio is a beast and handles everything. Thanks for this review - definitely an honest evaluation using Resolve which I use exclusively,.
What length was each timeline, as it would be good to know which of the systems managed to export out faster than real time?
Awesome & Thanks :)
this is EXACTLY what I needed to make a decision!
What did u decide ? Im in same situation
@@refsiabdelhak6951 Going to wait for an M3 mac Mini with 16gb of RAM, 512 GB drive and buy an external one for more. For what I want to do that'll be more than enough and for some time, too.
I just don't want to deal with another tower, fans, water cooling, blah.. You take a good proc, RAM and a motherboard and you get a Mac Mini for that. And it's just a small box on the table, you can take it anywhere.
You cleared up soooo much for me. Thank you! May I ask - did you use the binned 10c/16g entry level Mac Mini M2 Pro or the fully upgraded 12c/19g?
The entry level.
So at the end of this my only question is, based on my needs but wanting the timeline to render slightly faster than the 2nd timeline export on the Mac mini Pro. Should I get the 32GB Ram option or 19-Core GPU options. Unfortunately don’t wanna do both so really choosing either that can help with the render. Thanks.
Very helpful video
This was an impressive video, it only lacked an M2 Ultra test which I'm planning to get.
Thanks for your help.. you are grest.. please help me.. Do you recommend mini m2 pro / 16 ram for video editing and animation??
Great! What was the spec of Mac mini? Thanks
CJ, did you go full time with UA-cam? You've been putting out so many quality videos lately.
Thanks and Yes, other than bieng retired and a husband and Dad, UA-cam is my full time thing.
Just to answer the question. The RTX 3060 12GB was not a good choice for this build. It's built on a cut-down GA106 GPU with 1300 fewer CUDA cores than the GA104 in the 3060 TI, and the memory bandwidth is cut in half which means the 3060 TI actually has more memory available to the GPU in VRAM intensive tasks.
Nvidia card also get CPU bottlenecked very easily, so make sure if you put a geforce card in to get a decent CPU.
What is the light bar on your display? What is its purpose? Any brands can recommend to me?
Excellent review! Very clear and complete. What model of Mac Studio do you use? M1 Max with the 24 GPU core or the 32 cores model?
24 core GPU. I wanted the 32 core but it would have took an extra two months for delivery.
@@ElevatedSystems I'm about to buy Mac Studio. Do you think that there is a significant performance difference between the two models (24 and 32 cores)?. I'm a video editor and colorist. I work mainly with Davinci and Premiere.
Excellent test of real life editing workflow. M3 pro/max Mac mini, whenever it arrives, will be the best editing machine with price/performance ratio. And for really complex high end projects, forget about Mac. Just build the most expensive PC with two 4090 cards.
Great video! I recently priced a PC upgrade vs base M2 Pro Mini and at least here in Canada, for the same C$1800 I could get a 13700k 32GB RAM with 3070. I think it would perform much better than the M2 Pro Mini and probably better than the more expensive Mac Studio.
But you might have sudden crashes or fail at render as in this video. Unpredictable error.
@@frankluo230 If it's using decent components and he has his swap space setup properly then doubtful it will crash. I haven't had a crash on resolve for 3 years under Windows. The behaviour of the issue suggests it s a software not hardware issue and this same error got me when I used to attempot to export clips that were stored on a slower spinning disk hard drive (essentially the hdd couldn't keep up with the system when processing). So @Thirsty, if you go with a PC, make sure to get decent SSDs or if you use spinning disks, RAID stripe them (I'm running stripe+mirror).
@Frank Luo How many PC'S you build? 🤣
Hi, and thanks for the review! Was this the base m2 mac mini pro?! Or did you upgrade anything in it?! 🙋🏻♂️
Base spec.
Why not put cc nodes on timeline instead of an adjustment layer?
Any performance improvement?
Also worth noting that the Mac Studio is tiny, silent, and would only use around 50-60W during the render 😅
We need competition in the PC space. Discrete CPU/GPU/RAM systems need to give way to the SoC future 🙏
Hello. Would you recommend any Laptops over a Macbook Pro for using Davinci Ressolve? Also is it better to get the M2 for Davinci Ressolve or is M1 okay when using Davinci Ressolve? I appreciate any information. Thank you.
What is this long cylinder clipped to the top of your widescreen monitor?
After watching several reviews of the M2 Pro mini I've asked the same question --- would I have purchased the Studio Max if the Pro mini had been around at the time. I'm super happy with my Studio, but that's a big price difference. Regardless, this was an excellent real world comparison, so thanks!
I asked myself the same question and after much thought I would likely have still bought the studio. My TB ports are full with TB drives and monitors so the front ports are a god send. As much as the faster refresh rate on HDMI 2.1 might be useful if you have it at 8k it's the only monitor you can use so, well, not ideal for me. Once you up the RAMM and stuff price skews quite a bit. But for me an extra 2 efficiency cores and the single core boost would be nice but for video graphics cores matter more to me. My friend who only really does music however, well he would take the mi ni pro all day. Horses and all that. Oh and my 512gb internal absolutely smokes the mini pro if that kind of thing matters to you!
Very interesting
Q. Can you use a mac Mini attached to an iPad Pro as the display module? Thanks
So, as right now, all I have is an iPad Pro, and using LumaFusion. i’m thinking about buying the Mac mini pro with 1 TB do you think I would have any problems editing 4K video with a little color grading? Will be using Davinci resolve.Btw Just sub..Thanks for the great video
I want to know as well. If I'm only going to be using 4k and Davinci, and using similar editing techniques as in your comparison video, will the stutters not happen because it's in 4k only? Planning to get the base M2 Pro Mini chip with 32gb ram, 1tb SSD. Thanks in advance!
Do you think will be the same mac mini pro M2 compared to macbookpro with M2, im looking for versatility to travel but i have the macmini 2014 with i7 and 32 gb ram, and i need to update more power...do you recommended the mini or macbook model?
Excellent job!! I totally agree with the comments about the smoothness of editing a video! Great to see. If you were to upgrade the memory to 32GB or to go with the full CPU and GPU cores (12/19). Which do you think would help more for editing tough video?
In Resolve the GPU is more important.
@@ElevatedSystems ok, but you indicated the PC crashed died from not having enough vRAM. Adding RAM on the Mac will increase the Available vRAM. Also, going with the 19 core GPU will increase the GPU speed. So both could?
Interested to hear this..
@@drsmith1988 But at that point it be cheaper to go with the M1 Max Studio which already has 32Gb of RAM and a 24 core GPU. Plus 10Gbps ethernet and more connectivity and runs cool and quiet.
@@ElevatedSystems I don’t know exactly what happens in Resolve. But, have seen photography work flows that are heavy GPU use, that show much more than the 30% expected. Blender is showing double the performance. If I buy the M2 pro Mini, I might get upgrade the GPU, or RAM, but not both.
From people that examine the chips, there are definite changes external to the GPUs which I am sure account for some of the surprising results. Although not every program shows the surprising results.
Hey what's the configuration of the Mac mini m2 pro on which you tested? I'm planning to buy the Mac mini 2 m2 pro with 10 core cpu, 16 core GPU, 16gb Ram and 512 GB SSD. I need to edit a full length feature film shot on prores HQ on iphone 13 pro Max. I really wish I could buy the additional 16gb ram but it's quite expensive. I have about 5tb of footage. So wondering if I'll be able to edit it comfortably in the aforementioned setup? And also will i able to do basic graphics with the same setup?
Thanks for your response if you can, it would help me greatly. I'm planning to purchase soon in a couple of days if you could reply by the time it would be awesome!! Thanks
what mouse are you using?
I would like to get the Mac studio but I want something more future proof. Do you think the Mac Studio would be good still in the long run like in 4 to 5 years? or Mac mini since the chip is more new? I'm trying to get something specifically for video editing but having a hard time deciding. 😭
My advice having supported both would be a PC, as you can generally upgrade specific components. So you could start off with a mid-level system then if you want more ram, just upgrade that bit, need a lot of HDD space, put in 8 spinning disk hard drives in RAID 10 configuration, need better 3d performance? Then the video card (or add a 265/264 card in extra for output speed). And just add as you go.
If you are not comfortable with that (or getting someone reliable to build that) then long-term it will not compete as the m1/m2 are currently slower than last gen PCs and do not get the performance uplift Apple expected, so there is a limiting factor on the processor (this is why all the benches are done at equivalent wattage).
Avoid laptops as the cpus in those are generally ~20% slower and you often cannot upgrade them.
I'm curious to see how a multi-gpu and multi-cpu system (1 of each) would perform with resolve and if there would be any uplift.
you confirmed my decision to buy 3060 ti 8GB. but is it worth it to upgrade from m1 air to i5-1300F with 16Gig and 3060ti? i use basic grading on a 1080p timeline.
CJ, what is the smaller display you have in this video? is it touch as well? TIA!
There are links for all my equipment in the description, the Innocn display is touch capable, but I don't use that function. It doesn't work well on MacOS.
have you tried r3d or prores raw files on this?
My studio is full of 5950x systems both on windows and Linux using DaVinci resolve. It crashed few times only with template project we have downloaded from envato, but other than that 0 crash since year. We use Sony log, and Sony raw and arri raw as footage. Our macs for Microsoft office applications because iMac is cheap and nice design.
I can confirm the crashes. But the 4090 demolishes everything in rendering times.
I just read your pinned comment about REBAR. I will check it out.
I had a similar problem with davinci failing on clips with NR. I found that lowering the number of frames that davinci has to analyze for NR fixed the issue for me. Not ideal but at least it finished the project.
You can just right-click the clip and choose "Render in place". Then that clip will be pre-rendered.
Or right-click the node in the color page with the NR and enable caching.
question? What is that adapter, or cable you have connected your external drive with ??
It's just a camera mount I 3D Printed.
I have always told people to avoid the base SKU for any Mac Computer... with the exception being the Mac Studio. The Base model M1 Mac Studio is well equipped with 32 GB of RAM. Once you add the extra 16GB of RAM to the M2 Pro Mac Mini .. then the extra features of the Mac Studio are well worth the $250 more money at current online prices for the M1 Mac Studio. Because the standard SKU Macs enjoy some nice discounts with online retailers. You can save anywhere from $100 to $300.
What your experience with the INNOCN 15.6" OLED Portable Monitor?
It's the closest display I could find to an OLED cell phone display and allows me to edit my videos so they look best on the devices most people watch my content on.
Got me subbed, would like to see some free version stuff too as I bet a lot of viewers are using this, me included aha
This was why I got the $1299 M2 Pro. I just didn't see the value in the double price...and losing 120hz.
you dont by chance have dehancer to see playback on m2?
Good video, but as to your setup. I can't find any reliable information on the Delta E on that INNOCN monitor. And also It doesn't seem to me you are running the video feed out of a Blackmagic Ultra Studio, are you? If not, even if that INNOCN were a Delta E below 2, the color would not be accurate enough for professional delivery,
The Innocn is the closest panel I could find to an OLED cell phone display which is what over 70% of my content is consumed on. It's not for professional delivery, it's for UA-cam delivery.
What are your specs on the Mac Mini Pro?
Well done review, very informative, subscribed
I heard the ssd memory is still slow with the Mac mini M2. Think I will skip out on the mini M2 and see what else they toss out down the line.
Hey which you recommend for adobe after effects? Pc or macbook??
After Effects will be in an upcoming video.
Good video, thanks. It's funny how making 93 proxies is not an option, right now I deal with more than 10k proxies for a TV show in FCPX ;)
I assume he normally does!
How long do they take to create and what sort of machine do you use?
why 50fps? Are you authoring to PAL?
Probably within a few months the Mac Studio will get the M2 Max and Ultra chips. That would be another interesting comparison.
I had the same problem for my PC it froze on the noise reduce clips, the way I solved this for the render, I change the encoding to auto instead of Nvidia:))
Absolutely fantastic review!!! I am a professional 360 virtual tour photographer, so am often dealing with very large TIFF files, and my Ryzen 9 5950X, 64GB of RAM and 8GB GPU seem to be struggling when saving images in Affinity Photo. I am scared to move to Mac, but the Mini 2 Pro has made me think seriously about jumping ship. I also use Davinci Resolve Studio for 4K UA-cam content.
I may however wait for the Mac Studio M2 to be released. Would appreciate your feedback.
A consideration: Apple gives you 30 days to try out a machine, full refund available. If I were you, I’d think about blocking off a solid 3 weeks that you could dedicate to using a Mac exclusively-enough time to work through many of the little differences that switching OS comes with plus real-world use. Affinity apps of course are completely cross platform as are Adobe. You might find that you’re ok with the Mac but need to wait for a Studio release, or that a beefed-up Mini Pro would do it. Or look at Apple’s refurbished store (links in footer of site) for good discounts on an M1 Studio. I’ve worked in professional creative on both OSs; prefer Apple.
@@jelliottlein Thanks so much for this, it's been a real help. I wasn't aware that they offered a 30 day refund policy, that's good to know. Going to have to think long and hard, as I know I'll be kicking myself if the M2 Studio comes out shortly after I get the M1.
@@NickPowellPhotography I get it! I have this same dilemma when purchasing. Think of this though: the Studio M1 launched 15 months after the Mini M1 and less than a year ago now (still quite new); the M2 Version could come out in March 2023, or 2024! And we don’t know their Mac Pro plans yet. The M3 is projected to be an even bigger leap than M2, with a new 3nm process. Consider trying an M1 Studio and upgrading to an M3 or a Mac Pro in a few years? Or the Mini M2 Pro really still looks very good for your needs even with the 32gb RAM cap and a cheaper way to start. I just bought a Mini M2 non-pro 16/512 because my needs are lesser. If I were you, I’d be looking hard at the M2 Pro 32gb/1tb model which is still less than the base Studio.
@@jelliottlein Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. Yeah I am leaning towards the M2 Mini with a hub so I can insert SD cards etc on the front. Do you think it's worth upping the game to the 12 Core CPU and 19 GPU? Most of my storage is external, so could get away with a 512GB SSD.
@@NickPowellPhotography For most people? Probably not. For you? If $300 won’t break your bank, then it’s a 20% CPU / 15% GPU boost and the comfort of knowing there is no higher tier. The reason I recommend the 1tb internal SSD is that its stripped across four NAND chips to run at 6k mbps, double the 512’s speed with only two NAND chips. For large file transfers, large exports, and RAM swap, it would likely make a difference for your workflow in a way that it wouldn’t for most people. And you’d just know you had the best, again. That’s $2,200. More than the base M1 Studio, but should easily outperform it based on what we’re seeing in reviews unless you go for the Ultra chip which is way more expensive. That’s the config I’d go for in your shoes. I was tempted myself but I know my Designer/Publisher work is easily handled with less.
This is why I prefer using macs over pcs, PCs offer so much more but the workflow always have bugs and never seamless. Macs don't have whole lot of hardware capabilities but it irons out most hardware problems with efficient softwares integration.
I use Davinci Resolve on Windows PC (Ryzen 9 5900X, Nvidia GTX 1660 6 GB GPU, 32 GB RAM). I also have a problem when generating a video. My solution when it comes time to generate my video is to go to the Davinci Resolve Menu, Preferences. In System preferences, Decode Options, I deselect Decode H.264/H.265 using Hardware acceleration.
I suspect one of the latest Davinci Resolve updates or Nvidia driver update, I've never encountered this problem in the past.
What would you truly recommend for someone editing a full feature project shot on h.265 Long GOP from Panasonic? A Mac mini 2 pro, Mac Studio or a PC with i7 10700k + RTX 3080 10gb? Or would all of these work similar other than export time? Thanks
If your going to be doing a lot of noise reduction, optical flow, motion text, or using the AI engine in Resolve, the 10gb of Vram may cause you problems. It will run Resolve fantastically if you don't run out of Vram, but when you do it hurts. Also if your going to stick with pc make sure you pair the NVidia graphics card with a CPU that has an integrated graphics card. Intel chip starting with 11th gen has built in H.265 decoders that make editing the files easy. If you don't have those decoders it can be a problem. Intel chips with the a "F" in the model number DO NOT have the IGPU. DO NOT get a F model if you want to video edit.
BTW I am a Panasonic user (GH6, G9, S5, and now S52) and run an 11th gen intel with a 8gb 3070. Runs great unless I use to many effects and run out of Vram. Then I have to jump through hoops to get around the issue.
@@jessecumberledge4530 that was an interesting response thanks, I really hadn't thought about the IGPU pairing.
@jessecumberledge4530 I am looking to buy a better pc for video editing. What would you say would be a better choice?
Mac pro m2 mini or i5-13500, 32GB DDR4 Ram, 1TB SSD, RTX 4070 12GB?
I was more leaning towards the 2nd Option but the only thing that's giving me slight doubts is the crashing issue. I am currently using a Macbook and in 1.5 years it hasn't frozen on me or restarted once. But I used to have issues with freezing and crashes on my windows pc 2 years ago. What would you go for out of the two options?