Update: I finally got the project to render on the PC. Interestingly I just disabled Resizable BAR and it rendered in 19 min 21 sec. I think the system was just flooding the VRAM with too much data all at once.
@@ElevatedSystems I have the exact same issues with my RTX 3060 Ti. During render it crashes Resolve. Totally unuseable. My Resizable BAR was already disabled so I decided to turn it on to see if it has any affect. On the MAC side this never happens.
I just retired after 40 years as a system and silicon designer and then manager of design teams for PC and PC components. This is the best real life test I ever seen for audio-video applications and it proves the true that all the pro already knew. Thank you for your hard work.
Hey, thanks for your comment. I was here just to briefly take a look on comparison results, since I've already watched plenty of videos about M2 cpus and I'm kind of tired of them. But after your comment I realized that I've missed something between intro and results. You were absolutely right, full video is brilliant. Thank you once again and even more thanks to the author
Dude, you're the only reviewer I'm gonna trust going forward. This was incredible. Our studio has run on Macs for 14 years but we're not entirely happy with Apple's current direction. As we consider PC's for the first time, just hearing the word crash is off-putting. 14 years. No crashes. Granted, a more powerful PC would've handled it, but still something to keep in mind as we move forward. Oh! Also! All these UA-camrs just test export performance - when studios could care less. We export overnight. Watching you actually edit was so so helpful!! Thank You!
While I am long-term PC user and I would never buy Apple for my personal use, the stability of the systems used in video production is unbelievable - running weeks no restart, working with large networked storage arrays, etc. I believe it's not really about the HW, but only about the fact that there is less variability in Mac than in PC and therefore a bit easier for the devs to catch the exceptional cases - such as the demoed workflow here in the video. But if you are a pro and your time translate directly to money, one crash on specific place in timeline might make all the difference between nice revenue and painful loss. Good luck in your business!
@@Teluric2 with pcs and the millions of different parts and drivers and combinations available, there’s always a higher risk of crashes. indeed, one can create the right combination of everything and you get a super stable pc.. but getting that combination right takes knowledge and a bit of luck.
He could also just have used Puget Systems DaVinci Resolve benchmark test. It does the same. Difference is, he don't get the feeling on how smooth the timeline runs. But unlike his test, you can be assured, every benchmark does exactly the same.
Wow, this is one of those videos that you save in your playlist and watch 2 or 3 times to make you've captured everything its communicating, and then you watch it *again* because there was more to learn. What an awesome video!!!! Stumbled across this on YT seeking answers to the same decision between buying the Mini M2 Pro and Studio M2 Max where my setup, workflow and skill level is similar as yours. You freaking rock, I've subscribed!!
My whole life I bought pc's,each new video game required an upgrade wich costed hundreds of dollars (in my case euro's) Switching to Playstation and Xbox solved that problem. Then starting with very simple video editing on a pc. Well in 2000 that sucked so I quit. Now in 2023 I bought a mac studio. What a dream of a machine. Coming from a pc it takes time to get used too. But everything runs butter smooth. Fast and no crashes ever..love it. It's a big step af using ps's for 24 years but worth the switch. No fan noise,errors..or blue screen fatal errors..😂 Thanks for the outstanding reviews which made me switch to Mac and I'm so happy with it..regards from Holland..keep up the good work..
Just to answer the question. The RTX 3060 12GB was not a good choice for this build. It's built on a cut-down GA106 GPU with 1300 fewer CUDA cores than the GA104 in the 3060 TI, and the memory bandwidth is cut in half which means the 3060 TI actually has more memory available to the GPU in VRAM intensive tasks.
In Europe PC Mac Studio M1 Max 10Core GPU 24C 64GB costs 3200 euros. For that price you can buy an Intel 13700K with RTX 4080 64GB 3 TB RAM 6000Hz. And of course in a couple of years the PC can be redesigned: a new processor and a better graphics card. But with PC Mac Studio there is nothing you can do, you can only resell it if they buy it. Mac Studio M1 good not a big PC, but you also need to take into account the fact that now developing neural networks and how it will work with these applications is not clear. Just slicing video and substituting text does not need a computer for a few thousand, if you have DaVinci you should already use all the features. That's why you need a serious machine for work or hobby. Thank you for the video.
Yeah, I was considering a Mac Studio last year. Unfortunately the lead time was about half a year at that point for the configuration I wanter. I ended up buying a PC with practically better specs and save a 1000 euros or so. I'm very happy with my purchase. Neural network stuff works as well or maybe even better on an RTX, right?
To be honest, in the PC there is also not much you can do. After, let's say 2-3 years, if you would like to upgrade, you will have to buy new processor, probably new MOBO, because of the new processor standard. New graphic card if you want to. Also, you have to buy new power supply, bcs the old one is for sure too weak to handle new processor and graphic card. You will have to probably buy new RAM, bcs of the new standard or even not to bottleneck processor and graphic card. So you are now left only with old SSD. Of course, if you would like to upgrade RAM or SSD it will be cheaper. Later, you can sell old parts or keep it. The same with Apple products, which, however, hold the price for a long time and you can sell
@@dominik.malyszka I have never quite understood why people are ready to pay so much for used macs that usually can't be repaired if something breaks. Also at this point the resell value of most Intel Macs is approaching zero. Do we know yet when will Apple kill x86 support?
@@hbp_ Dunno, people like to overpay for new macs with better specs for sake of "future proofing" yet not considering that in 3 years new macs will be faster for less money they spent. Now it's better to upgrade each 18 months and sell old mac. Resell value will still be high and people will still pay same price yearly for using computer Edit. Forgot to mention that this way you have Apple warranty almost all the time (2/3 time you have mac)
14:25 reasoned like a true professional! Well done, subbed! Pragmatically it looks like Resolve is now optimized for the Mac ARM computers more than for PC, hope Blackmagic made the right decision if this is the case.
This is awesome and very useful. Much appreciated. I'm stuck buying the MBPM2 16" one step above base to avoid the dreaded, but probably not important SSD cripple. I need the better screen to help my eyes. But this is so great to see you even got into fusion. My current Macbook M1Air gets completely useless on those. Great info and thank you!
I was considering going back to using Windows, but I've been using Mac for over 12 years. I work with video, and DaVinci never crashed or had any issues. Thank you very much for reminding me to stick with Mac for my next upgrade. Hahaha Hardware isn't everything... software plays a big part in the final experience.
Synthetic benchmarks have their place, but it's really valuable to see where the pain points are likely to be for various hardware setups in a real workflow.
Great video. Thorough analysis. I always come away impressed with your unlimited knowledge of whatever project you’re working on. From digital and 3D art to video editing to building PC’s, everything looks like you make your living doing just that. Have you ever said what training or degree you received that included such a broad range of professions?
Great video! I recently priced a PC upgrade vs base M2 Pro Mini and at least here in Canada, for the same C$1800 I could get a 13700k 32GB RAM with 3070. I think it would perform much better than the M2 Pro Mini and probably better than the more expensive Mac Studio.
@@frankluo230 If it's using decent components and he has his swap space setup properly then doubtful it will crash. I haven't had a crash on resolve for 3 years under Windows. The behaviour of the issue suggests it s a software not hardware issue and this same error got me when I used to attempot to export clips that were stored on a slower spinning disk hard drive (essentially the hdd couldn't keep up with the system when processing). So @Thirsty, if you go with a PC, make sure to get decent SSDs or if you use spinning disks, RAID stripe them (I'm running stripe+mirror).
Shooting on high-end camera systems and then thinking of editing on mid-tier computer systems is such a good point. It should be balanced. Great video! I've thought of switching to a mac, this was helpful
What you said at the end, thank you. The amount of times I have said about the HDMI 2.1 and its 8k. If I could afford an 8k monitor and I was working with people shooting 8k then I would have more than my base macstudio, that's just one example though and again, glad you spoke the words. Looking sharp nowadays, have yourself an image consultant now??!!😉
So, as right now, all I have is an iPad Pro, and using LumaFusion. i’m thinking about buying the Mac mini pro with 1 TB do you think I would have any problems editing 4K video with a little color grading? Will be using Davinci resolve.Btw Just sub..Thanks for the great video
I want to know as well. If I'm only going to be using 4k and Davinci, and using similar editing techniques as in your comparison video, will the stutters not happen because it's in 4k only? Planning to get the base M2 Pro Mini chip with 32gb ram, 1tb SSD. Thanks in advance!
Can I edit fully uncompressed Red Raw 26-K footage and IMAX Panavision RAW on an Amazon Firestick? Loved the video, especially the bit about using a mid-tier system for ultra high end cameras. Great stuff! Very much appreciated.
The cost difference becomes totally meaningless _if_ your are editing/grading professionally. Because just one missed day of work due to crashes (and a bug hunting hour here and there quickly adds up) will cost you more in daily rates than the extra you'd have paid for the working machine. Which is while these days, even though I've built PCs all my life, I'm doing my day to day work on a Mac. Not because I love it so much, but simply because it's more reliable in the way it behaves.
@The Handsome Life Yes and no. Linux when it comes to desktop / graphics apps has the same issues. It's more the incredible amount of hardware combinations that you can run in PC land vs the very, very small number of well defined machines in Apple land. Same reason your PS4 or Xbox does not crash too often. I do miss a number of things on Macos (e.g. I find the font rendering atrocious on non-5k-apple monitors). It's always a trade.
@@Teluric2 Sure. But it's also an entirely different use case. Apps like Resolve rely heavily on the stability of graphics drivers for example. And those can be a problem. Among other things, I was doing 3D rendering and vfx work for almost a decade. Most of it on Windows machines, and finding a stable driver version was anything but easy. Every update of any component would bring the chance of random crashes at render time. Or take Linux + nvidia cards. It's a nightmare. Again, it always depends on the use case and implementation.
Great review! Im just about to publish my review of the Mac Studio M2 Max for videographers, photographers, and creative professionals and I LOVE the Studio with the M2 MAX chip.
I was with you - last March if they had offered the Mac mini Pro - I would have grabbed it in a heartbeat. Instead they released the Mac Studio and it took me 5 mins before I ordered the Mac Studio base unit and traded in my Mac mini on it to soften the $$ blow. I have been happy ever since. All I can say about the Mac mini pro is it is 9 months or so too late. I have the MacBook Pro 14" as my road computer. But in the end - The Mac Studio is a beast and handles everything. Thanks for this review - definitely an honest evaluation using Resolve which I use exclusively,.
After watching several reviews of the M2 Pro mini I've asked the same question --- would I have purchased the Studio Max if the Pro mini had been around at the time. I'm super happy with my Studio, but that's a big price difference. Regardless, this was an excellent real world comparison, so thanks!
I asked myself the same question and after much thought I would likely have still bought the studio. My TB ports are full with TB drives and monitors so the front ports are a god send. As much as the faster refresh rate on HDMI 2.1 might be useful if you have it at 8k it's the only monitor you can use so, well, not ideal for me. Once you up the RAMM and stuff price skews quite a bit. But for me an extra 2 efficiency cores and the single core boost would be nice but for video graphics cores matter more to me. My friend who only really does music however, well he would take the mi ni pro all day. Horses and all that. Oh and my 512gb internal absolutely smokes the mini pro if that kind of thing matters to you!
Great video! Do you have access to a fully loaded M2 pro to compare to the M1Max? I just ordered one for my LightRoom editing after seeing some LightRoom specific tests showing it beat the base studio in that type of work. The Studio almost always seems to win on video editing but I was wondering how the spec’ed out mini pro might work.
Thanks a lot for your video ! I'm a DoP as well as a colorist and I use a mac mini m1 with 16gb since it's launch, and it has been great ! I need to drop the timeline resolution to 1/4 on my grading projects because of the amount of nodes and effects but works good enough. The only downside is that the export time takes a lot, so i was looking for a replacement, because as you said, for us working professionals, time is money ! I was considering going for the base mac mini m2 pro but seeing the export times, made me realize that it will be better to spend a couple more and go for the Studio.... Well, i might just wait for the m2 max studio version to get the best of both worlds, thanks a lot for your video !
Hey mate, did you ever use Silicon Graphics kit back in the day ? I wonder what they would be pumping out now if they were still in business. The ARM based macs with shared memory, premium build and BSD operating system share a lot in common with SGI of old
@@refsiabdelhak6951 Going to wait for an M3 mac Mini with 16gb of RAM, 512 GB drive and buy an external one for more. For what I want to do that'll be more than enough and for some time, too. I just don't want to deal with another tower, fans, water cooling, blah.. You take a good proc, RAM and a motherboard and you get a Mac Mini for that. And it's just a small box on the table, you can take it anywhere.
You rendered the timeline in 19mins on PC, which is 4mins faster than Mac Mini. Also timeline performed better on the PC. Mac Studio is in completely different price range and can't be compared to the 3060 PC. It seemed like a software issue with Davinci. Even my old laptop with RTX 2060 can handle heavy noise reduction.
I forgot to mention here, I expanded the explanation in my final conclusion video, but I also had to turn on Smart render cache and let the entire timeline cache before the final render would complete, which took over 20 minutes.
@@ElevatedSystems I'm about to buy Mac Studio. Do you think that there is a significant performance difference between the two models (24 and 32 cores)?. I'm a video editor and colorist. I work mainly with Davinci and Premiere.
The Vram issue for PC is totally real. Its a serious issue. What you have to do is right click the clips that won't render out and do "render in place" NOT saying this doesn't suck, just saying that's how you can at least get your render done. Can't believe NVidia didn't up the Vram in the 4000 series its not good. If your a heavy video editor in resolve you need at least 12 gig of vram for a 4k timeline with effects. 8 will get you in trouble if you try to do a lot of things.
@@JoATTech I am probably just going to get a 4080 or 4090. Or I can get a pre-built Dell Xps desktop with a 3090 for 2300 right now. That's a good deal and cheaper than a competitive Mac.
@Emiliano Zapata I have never had the render in place not work. Personal experience. I'm not saying you couldn't have a clip that it won't work on either. You can also do the smart render and that usually allows you to get through the render. All problems we shouldn't have to deal with. I am sure when Blackmagic made the engine, they couldn't imagine Nvidia would not up vram for the next 3 generations of graphic cards.
@@jessecumberledge4530 I opt for 4090. Seems they get cheaper by 100$ last 2 weeks (at least in my country). I've considered 4080, but It I'm afraid 16GB of vram might be not enough soon. 4090 is 42% more expensive but you get 50% more VRAM, faster memory bus and faster card overall. My only concern is how good it will work with my old mainboard and Razen 7 2700X. Guess I might have to upgrade my power supply. If I have to update mainboard or CPU (or both) then Mac Studio or M2 Macbook seems better choice.
I would like to get the Mac studio but I want something more future proof. Do you think the Mac Studio would be good still in the long run like in 4 to 5 years? or Mac mini since the chip is more new? I'm trying to get something specifically for video editing but having a hard time deciding. 😭
My advice having supported both would be a PC, as you can generally upgrade specific components. So you could start off with a mid-level system then if you want more ram, just upgrade that bit, need a lot of HDD space, put in 8 spinning disk hard drives in RAID 10 configuration, need better 3d performance? Then the video card (or add a 265/264 card in extra for output speed). And just add as you go. If you are not comfortable with that (or getting someone reliable to build that) then long-term it will not compete as the m1/m2 are currently slower than last gen PCs and do not get the performance uplift Apple expected, so there is a limiting factor on the processor (this is why all the benches are done at equivalent wattage). Avoid laptops as the cpus in those are generally ~20% slower and you often cannot upgrade them. I'm curious to see how a multi-gpu and multi-cpu system (1 of each) would perform with resolve and if there would be any uplift.
There are links for all my equipment in the description, the Innocn display is touch capable, but I don't use that function. It doesn't work well on MacOS.
I like what you said about mixing the camera cost to the workstation cost. I'm still on a Lumix gx80/85, h264 4k, do you think the base Mac mini with the higher ram would be an option? Using free resolve? TIA
Excellent test of real life editing workflow. M3 pro/max Mac mini, whenever it arrives, will be the best editing machine with price/performance ratio. And for really complex high end projects, forget about Mac. Just build the most expensive PC with two 4090 cards.
Hey I love the videos. I think you’re the closest to answering my specific use case. If you can, quick opinion. Between M2pro max mini with 16gb ram and 512 SSD and the base max studio 32GB ram and 1TB SSD. I am a web dev, so running VS code, PHP web server, 10-12 chrome tabs, photoshop, figma, and zoom at the same time (typical video call). I don’t do much video editing, although I am capable of it. Been running in an 8Gb ram intel MacBook Pro with 1 tb. I’d like to save 1,000 dollars if the m2 pro is enough. Can I get your expert opinion?
17:00 some people they edit for companies that do in fact use those cameras and files, if you can get away with an M2 mini then it will of course safe you a lot of cost (maybe if you just finished college and are a freelancer.)
True, but as a former Freelance 3D artist I only took jobs that were congruent with my equipment. Missing a deadline or not delivering what the client hired you for is the worst outcome.
Also worth noting that the Mac Studio is tiny, silent, and would only use around 50-60W during the render 😅 We need competition in the PC space. Discrete CPU/GPU/RAM systems need to give way to the SoC future 🙏
This video is fab. Both as a review is the M2 Mac Mini, but also a great behind the scenes look at how your videos & common effects come together. It’s encouraging me to have to a go at some video editing :)
I'm doubting myself if going for a mac mini pro M2 512gb 16gb ram (1300$) or if i should for a 1500$ gaming pc with i7 12700k, 32gb DDR5 5600mhz, Asus Prime z790-A. 980 Samsung PRO 1TB SSD, RTX 3060 Asus dual, 650w.
you confirmed my decision to buy 3060 ti 8GB. but is it worth it to upgrade from m1 air to i5-1300F with 16Gig and 3060ti? i use basic grading on a 1080p timeline.
Good video, but as to your setup. I can't find any reliable information on the Delta E on that INNOCN monitor. And also It doesn't seem to me you are running the video feed out of a Blackmagic Ultra Studio, are you? If not, even if that INNOCN were a Delta E below 2, the color would not be accurate enough for professional delivery,
The Innocn is the closest panel I could find to an OLED cell phone display which is what over 70% of my content is consumed on. It's not for professional delivery, it's for UA-cam delivery.
Hey what's the configuration of the Mac mini m2 pro on which you tested? I'm planning to buy the Mac mini 2 m2 pro with 10 core cpu, 16 core GPU, 16gb Ram and 512 GB SSD. I need to edit a full length feature film shot on prores HQ on iphone 13 pro Max. I really wish I could buy the additional 16gb ram but it's quite expensive. I have about 5tb of footage. So wondering if I'll be able to edit it comfortably in the aforementioned setup? And also will i able to do basic graphics with the same setup? Thanks for your response if you can, it would help me greatly. I'm planning to purchase soon in a couple of days if you could reply by the time it would be awesome!! Thanks
It's the closest display I could find to an OLED cell phone display and allows me to edit my videos so they look best on the devices most people watch my content on.
I'm editing 1080p talking Head videos and all I want to do is use the magic mask person tracker to mask the person so that I can lower the exposure on everything but the subject, the videos are about 40 minutes long. My 2019 MacBook pro 16 acts like my 4-year-old would act if I asked her to pick up my car and she tried. It won't do it. Will the M2 pro chip do it? Or should I get a Mac studio?
Are the people you are tracking mostly stationary? If so you might just want to use a power window for exposure control. But yes the M2 Pro will do that.
@@ElevatedSystems Thanks so much! Sometimes they sit still but most of the time they get pretty frisky. It's church sermons so really varies preacher to preacher, or what mood they're in. The other night I thought I had an easy one because the preacher was sitting on a stool almost the whole time, then out of nowhere he just stands up and starts walking around for 2 minutes and then sits back down in the stool for the rest of it... And I thought, "did you really have to do that"? 😂
Hello. Would you recommend any Laptops over a Macbook Pro for using Davinci Ressolve? Also is it better to get the M2 for Davinci Ressolve or is M1 okay when using Davinci Ressolve? I appreciate any information. Thank you.
50FPS is the fastest the BMPCC6K will do in full frame 6K. I'd have to drop to ProRes on a cropped sensor for 60 or above and also give up gen 5 color. I shoot b-roll at a higher fps for the smoother slow motion.
IIRC the Nvidia encoder affects the finial quality of the output. Footage modified in Handbrake and exported via NVENC looked significantly worse than a CPU only render. Can anyone confirm that this would be the case with Divinci as well?
You can't compare the two, as the way Handbrake and DR uses the NVENC differently. My experience is, that if you render out to a low bitrate, Handbrake does it better, than DR, and with higher bitrate, DR does it better. But you can do your own testing with FFMetrics. Im just curious why you would compare Handbrake to DR, as they do different things.
Why not show cpu and gpu usage on the screen,being so large it wouldn't bother you and we could see what is used and where. I have this gripe with my rtx3060: I think it NEVER reached 100% load. Not even 70%..
I had a similar problem with davinci failing on clips with NR. I found that lowering the number of frames that davinci has to analyze for NR fixed the issue for me. Not ideal but at least it finished the project.
You can just right-click the clip and choose "Render in place". Then that clip will be pre-rendered. Or right-click the node in the color page with the NR and enable caching.
Isn’t there a bottleneck problem with the usb-c external storage in this test? Wouldn’t it be better to do a test like this on the data stored on the internal SSD instead?
I have a TB enclosure with a 2tb NVME in it and it tops out at a out 2500 read which is barely slower than the internal from what I have seen. I also have 3 in a RAID 0 and funnily enough they smash the new internals below 1tb. That may well be overkill but 6tb in 3 drives cost me less than half the price of an internal.
Excellent job!! I totally agree with the comments about the smoothness of editing a video! Great to see. If you were to upgrade the memory to 32GB or to go with the full CPU and GPU cores (12/19). Which do you think would help more for editing tough video?
@@ElevatedSystems ok, but you indicated the PC crashed died from not having enough vRAM. Adding RAM on the Mac will increase the Available vRAM. Also, going with the 19 core GPU will increase the GPU speed. So both could?
@@drsmith1988 But at that point it be cheaper to go with the M1 Max Studio which already has 32Gb of RAM and a 24 core GPU. Plus 10Gbps ethernet and more connectivity and runs cool and quiet.
@@ElevatedSystems I don’t know exactly what happens in Resolve. But, have seen photography work flows that are heavy GPU use, that show much more than the 30% expected. Blender is showing double the performance. If I buy the M2 pro Mini, I might get upgrade the GPU, or RAM, but not both. From people that examine the chips, there are definite changes external to the GPUs which I am sure account for some of the surprising results. Although not every program shows the surprising results.
In today's cost, that's a $900 pc. The 13500 with igpu and a 4070ti would match the Mac mini cost and give a huge performance boost over your current pc setup. Not sure it's a fair test given it's the cheapest 13gen cpu
Update: I finally got the project to render on the PC. Interestingly I just disabled Resizable BAR and it rendered in 19 min 21 sec. I think the system was just flooding the VRAM with too much data all at once.
Hi was the 19:21 with the noise reduction nodes?
@@MrCollindbrowne Yes
@@ElevatedSystems I have the exact same issues with my RTX 3060 Ti. During render it crashes Resolve. Totally unuseable. My Resizable BAR was already disabled so I decided to turn it on to see if it has any affect. On the MAC side this never happens.
Next time, just pre-render the clip or enable caching on the NR node in the color page.
I just retired after 40 years as a system and silicon designer and then manager of design teams for PC and PC components. This is the best real life test I ever seen for audio-video applications and it proves the true that all the pro already knew. Thank you for your hard work.
Hey, thanks for your comment. I was here just to briefly take a look on comparison results, since I've already watched plenty of videos about M2 cpus and I'm kind of tired of them. But after your comment I realized that I've missed something between intro and results. You were absolutely right, full video is brilliant. Thank you once again and even more thanks to the author
Dude, you're the only reviewer I'm gonna trust going forward. This was incredible. Our studio has run on Macs for 14 years but we're not entirely happy with Apple's current direction. As we consider PC's for the first time, just hearing the word crash is off-putting. 14 years. No crashes. Granted, a more powerful PC would've handled it, but still something to keep in mind as we move forward. Oh! Also! All these UA-camrs just test export performance - when studios could care less. We export overnight. Watching you actually edit was so so helpful!! Thank You!
While I am long-term PC user and I would never buy Apple for my personal use, the stability of the systems used in video production is unbelievable - running weeks no restart, working with large networked storage arrays, etc. I believe it's not really about the HW, but only about the fact that there is less variability in Mac than in PC and therefore a bit easier for the devs to catch the exceptional cases - such as the demoed workflow here in the video.
But if you are a pro and your time translate directly to money, one crash on specific place in timeline might make all the difference between nice revenue and painful loss.
Good luck in your business!
To be fair, DaVinci is not super stable on any platform. Crashes happen all the time, at least on the forums I follow.
Crash? I know guys on engineering running workloads for 3 ,5 weeks 24x7 nonstop on amd TR WIN10.
@@Teluric2 ok cool! very encouraging
@@Teluric2 with pcs and the millions of different parts and drivers and combinations available, there’s always a higher risk of crashes. indeed, one can create the right combination of everything and you get a super stable pc.. but getting that combination right takes knowledge and a bit of luck.
Killer video! It was refreshing to watch someone create an actual video project on both rather than compare them based on synthetic benchmark tests.
Facts
Yes! This is a real editing review. Not just a export test that everyone other reviewer is doing. Keep it up!
I agree. Tired of synthetic benchmarks
He could also just have used Puget Systems DaVinci Resolve benchmark test. It does the same.
Difference is, he don't get the feeling on how smooth the timeline runs. But unlike his test, you can be assured, every benchmark does exactly the same.
This is how a PROFESSIONAL review should be done! Thanks a lot :)
Just what I was looking for. Thanks for creating.
You're very welcome!
I just started learning about video editing and need a new mac... your behind the scene and review is really helpful! Thanks so much.
I love the comparison of a real world test, similar priced competition and the point about balancing the budget of shooting equipment with editing.
Wow, this is one of those videos that you save in your playlist and watch 2 or 3 times to make you've captured everything its communicating, and then you watch it *again* because there was more to learn. What an awesome video!!!! Stumbled across this on YT seeking answers to the same decision between buying the Mini M2 Pro and Studio M2 Max where my setup, workflow and skill level is similar as yours. You freaking rock, I've subscribed!!
My whole life I bought pc's,each new video game required an upgrade wich costed hundreds of dollars (in my case euro's) Switching to Playstation and Xbox solved that problem. Then starting with very simple video editing on a pc. Well in 2000 that sucked so I quit. Now in 2023 I bought a mac studio. What a dream of a machine. Coming from a pc it takes time to get used too. But everything runs butter smooth. Fast and no crashes ever..love it. It's a big step af using ps's for 24 years but worth the switch. No fan noise,errors..or blue screen fatal errors..😂 Thanks for the outstanding reviews which made me switch to Mac and I'm so happy with it..regards from Holland..keep up the good work..
Just to answer the question. The RTX 3060 12GB was not a good choice for this build. It's built on a cut-down GA106 GPU with 1300 fewer CUDA cores than the GA104 in the 3060 TI, and the memory bandwidth is cut in half which means the 3060 TI actually has more memory available to the GPU in VRAM intensive tasks.
Nvidia card also get CPU bottlenecked very easily, so make sure if you put a geforce card in to get a decent CPU.
In Europe PC Mac Studio M1 Max 10Core GPU 24C 64GB costs 3200 euros. For that price you can buy an Intel 13700K with RTX 4080 64GB 3 TB RAM 6000Hz. And of course in a couple of years the PC can be redesigned: a new processor and a better graphics card. But with PC Mac Studio there is nothing you can do, you can only resell it if they buy it. Mac Studio M1 good not a big PC, but you also need to take into account the fact that now developing neural networks and how it will work with these applications is not clear. Just slicing video and substituting text does not need a computer for a few thousand, if you have DaVinci you should already use all the features. That's why you need a serious machine for work or hobby.
Thank you for the video.
Yeah, I was considering a Mac Studio last year. Unfortunately the lead time was about half a year at that point for the configuration I wanter. I ended up buying a PC with practically better specs and save a 1000 euros or so. I'm very happy with my purchase. Neural network stuff works as well or maybe even better on an RTX, right?
To be honest, in the PC there is also not much you can do. After, let's say 2-3 years, if you would like to upgrade, you will have to buy new processor, probably new MOBO, because of the new processor standard. New graphic card if you want to. Also, you have to buy new power supply, bcs the old one is for sure too weak to handle new processor and graphic card. You will have to probably buy new RAM, bcs of the new standard or even not to bottleneck processor and graphic card. So you are now left only with old SSD. Of course, if you would like to upgrade RAM or SSD it will be cheaper. Later, you can sell old parts or keep it. The same with Apple products, which, however, hold the price for a long time and you can sell
@Dominik Malyszka I understand you never built a custom PC in your life. 🤣
@@dominik.malyszka I have never quite understood why people are ready to pay so much for used macs that usually can't be repaired if something breaks. Also at this point the resell value of most Intel Macs is approaching zero. Do we know yet when will Apple kill x86 support?
@@hbp_ Dunno, people like to overpay for new macs with better specs for sake of "future proofing" yet not considering that in 3 years new macs will be faster for less money they spent. Now it's better to upgrade each 18 months and sell old mac. Resell value will still be high and people will still pay same price yearly for using computer
Edit. Forgot to mention that this way you have Apple warranty almost all the time (2/3 time you have mac)
14:25 reasoned like a true professional! Well done, subbed! Pragmatically it looks like Resolve is now optimized for the Mac ARM computers more than for PC, hope Blackmagic made the right decision if this is the case.
I actually was looking for this exact video
This is awesome and very useful. Much appreciated. I'm stuck buying the MBPM2 16" one step above base to avoid the dreaded, but probably not important SSD cripple. I need the better screen to help my eyes. But this is so great to see you even got into fusion. My current Macbook M1Air gets completely useless on those. Great info and thank you!
I was considering going back to using Windows, but I've been using Mac for over 12 years. I work with video, and DaVinci never crashed or had any issues. Thank you very much for reminding me to stick with Mac for my next upgrade. Hahaha Hardware isn't everything... software plays a big part in the final experience.
Synthetic benchmarks have their place, but it's really valuable to see where the pain points are likely to be for various hardware setups in a real workflow.
Great video. Thorough analysis. I always come away impressed with your unlimited knowledge of whatever project you’re working on. From digital and 3D art to video editing to building PC’s, everything looks like you make your living doing just that. Have you ever said what training or degree you received that included such a broad range of professions?
Great video! I recently priced a PC upgrade vs base M2 Pro Mini and at least here in Canada, for the same C$1800 I could get a 13700k 32GB RAM with 3070. I think it would perform much better than the M2 Pro Mini and probably better than the more expensive Mac Studio.
But you might have sudden crashes or fail at render as in this video. Unpredictable error.
@@frankluo230 If it's using decent components and he has his swap space setup properly then doubtful it will crash. I haven't had a crash on resolve for 3 years under Windows. The behaviour of the issue suggests it s a software not hardware issue and this same error got me when I used to attempot to export clips that were stored on a slower spinning disk hard drive (essentially the hdd couldn't keep up with the system when processing). So @Thirsty, if you go with a PC, make sure to get decent SSDs or if you use spinning disks, RAID stripe them (I'm running stripe+mirror).
@Frank Luo How many PC'S you build? 🤣
Talk about elevated! Give us a few more tech specs before editing--just so we don't get lost.😎
Shooting on high-end camera systems and then thinking of editing on mid-tier computer systems is such a good point. It should be balanced. Great video! I've thought of switching to a mac, this was helpful
Wow, a genuinely useful M2 editing video! well done mate, keep it up!
What you said at the end, thank you. The amount of times I have said about the HDMI 2.1 and its 8k. If I could afford an 8k monitor and I was working with people shooting 8k then I would have more than my base macstudio, that's just one example though and again, glad you spoke the words. Looking sharp nowadays, have yourself an image consultant now??!!😉
Great video! You just got yourself a new subscriber, sir!
So, as right now, all I have is an iPad Pro, and using LumaFusion. i’m thinking about buying the Mac mini pro with 1 TB do you think I would have any problems editing 4K video with a little color grading? Will be using Davinci resolve.Btw Just sub..Thanks for the great video
I want to know as well. If I'm only going to be using 4k and Davinci, and using similar editing techniques as in your comparison video, will the stutters not happen because it's in 4k only? Planning to get the base M2 Pro Mini chip with 32gb ram, 1tb SSD. Thanks in advance!
The amount of work involved is crazy
This dude is awesome. Knows his stuff like the back of his hands..
Awesome work! Thank you for another awesome video!
Bravo my main man! Excellent video. 👍🏻
Great Video Buddy and that Old school BMX caught my eye with the white Tuffs that i seen twice at super speed…🤓
Can I edit fully uncompressed Red Raw 26-K footage and IMAX Panavision RAW on an Amazon Firestick? Loved the video, especially the bit about using a mid-tier system for ultra high end cameras. Great stuff! Very much appreciated.
The cost difference becomes totally meaningless _if_ your are editing/grading professionally. Because just one missed day of work due to crashes (and a bug hunting hour here and there quickly adds up) will cost you more in daily rates than the extra you'd have paid for the working machine. Which is while these days, even though I've built PCs all my life, I'm doing my day to day work on a Mac. Not because I love it so much, but simply because it's more reliable in the way it behaves.
@The Handsome Life Yes and no. Linux when it comes to desktop / graphics apps has the same issues. It's more the incredible amount of hardware combinations that you can run in PC land vs the very, very small number of well defined machines in Apple land. Same reason your PS4 or Xbox does not crash too often. I do miss a number of things on Macos (e.g. I find the font rendering atrocious on non-5k-apple monitors). It's always a trade.
Regarding reliability finite elements analysis are done on windows where nobody would dare to run it on macs and its more heavy that 8k h265 exports
@@Teluric2 Sure. But it's also an entirely different use case. Apps like Resolve rely heavily on the stability of graphics drivers for example. And those can be a problem. Among other things, I was doing 3D rendering and vfx work for almost a decade. Most of it on Windows machines, and finding a stable driver version was anything but easy. Every update of any component would bring the chance of random crashes at render time. Or take Linux + nvidia cards. It's a nightmare. Again, it always depends on the use case and implementation.
@@MichaelAuerswaldwhat about for day trading pc build or Mac Studio ?
What length was each timeline, as it would be good to know which of the systems managed to export out faster than real time?
Great review! Im just about to publish my review of the Mac Studio M2 Max for videographers, photographers, and creative professionals and I LOVE the Studio with the M2 MAX chip.
I was with you - last March if they had offered the Mac mini Pro - I would have grabbed it in a heartbeat. Instead they released the Mac Studio and it took me 5 mins before I ordered the Mac Studio base unit and traded in my Mac mini on it to soften the $$ blow. I have been happy ever since. All I can say about the Mac mini pro is it is 9 months or so too late. I have the MacBook Pro 14" as my road computer. But in the end - The Mac Studio is a beast and handles everything. Thanks for this review - definitely an honest evaluation using Resolve which I use exclusively,.
Thanks for the content. Much appreciated
My pleasure!
Really fantastic job, very informative and helpful
Excellent Video. Thank you very much for your impressive efforts.
ALWAYS AWESOME!!! Thank you for your hard work. Blessings
After watching several reviews of the M2 Pro mini I've asked the same question --- would I have purchased the Studio Max if the Pro mini had been around at the time. I'm super happy with my Studio, but that's a big price difference. Regardless, this was an excellent real world comparison, so thanks!
I asked myself the same question and after much thought I would likely have still bought the studio. My TB ports are full with TB drives and monitors so the front ports are a god send. As much as the faster refresh rate on HDMI 2.1 might be useful if you have it at 8k it's the only monitor you can use so, well, not ideal for me. Once you up the RAMM and stuff price skews quite a bit. But for me an extra 2 efficiency cores and the single core boost would be nice but for video graphics cores matter more to me. My friend who only really does music however, well he would take the mi ni pro all day. Horses and all that. Oh and my 512gb internal absolutely smokes the mini pro if that kind of thing matters to you!
Super interesting comparisons, lots of great work. I do wonder how well the performance translates to premiere.
I'm going to default to the daily Premiere users this time, but my experience is that performance is usually relative to what you see in Resolve.
Now, this is genuine and useful review!!
Great video! Do you have access to a fully loaded M2 pro to compare to the M1Max? I just ordered one for my LightRoom editing after seeing some LightRoom specific tests showing it beat the base studio in that type of work. The Studio almost always seems to win on video editing but I was wondering how the spec’ed out mini pro might work.
Great! What was the spec of Mac mini? Thanks
what mouse are you using?
Thanks a lot for your video ! I'm a DoP as well as a colorist and I use a mac mini m1 with 16gb since it's launch, and it has been great ! I need to drop the timeline resolution to 1/4 on my grading projects because of the amount of nodes and effects but works good enough. The only downside is that the export time takes a lot, so i was looking for a replacement, because as you said, for us working professionals, time is money !
I was considering going for the base mac mini m2 pro but seeing the export times, made me realize that it will be better to spend a couple more and go for the Studio.... Well, i might just wait for the m2 max studio version to get the best of both worlds, thanks a lot for your video !
Hey mate, did you ever use Silicon Graphics kit back in the day ? I wonder what they would be pumping out now if they were still in business.
The ARM based macs with shared memory, premium build and BSD operating system share a lot in common with SGI of old
You cleared up soooo much for me. Thank you! May I ask - did you use the binned 10c/16g entry level Mac Mini M2 Pro or the fully upgraded 12c/19g?
The entry level.
this is EXACTLY what I needed to make a decision!
What did u decide ? Im in same situation
@@refsiabdelhak6951 Going to wait for an M3 mac Mini with 16gb of RAM, 512 GB drive and buy an external one for more. For what I want to do that'll be more than enough and for some time, too.
I just don't want to deal with another tower, fans, water cooling, blah.. You take a good proc, RAM and a motherboard and you get a Mac Mini for that. And it's just a small box on the table, you can take it anywhere.
What were the specs of the Mac mini verse M1 Max. This all plays a part.
They're both the base spec models.
You set up looks great 👍 your room has a lot of sound blocks I imagine to avoid any sound going back to the mics congrats I enjoy your videos ❤
You rendered the timeline in 19mins on PC, which is 4mins faster than Mac Mini. Also timeline performed better on the PC. Mac Studio is in completely different price range and can't be compared to the 3060 PC. It seemed like a software issue with Davinci. Even my old laptop with RTX 2060 can handle heavy noise reduction.
I forgot to mention here, I expanded the explanation in my final conclusion video, but I also had to turn on Smart render cache and let the entire timeline cache before the final render would complete, which took over 20 minutes.
Thank you so much for your effort super great video!
Hi, and thanks for the review! Was this the base m2 mac mini pro?! Or did you upgrade anything in it?! 🙋🏻♂️
Base spec.
love this!!!!! true comparison no doubt!
This was why I got the $1299 M2 Pro. I just didn't see the value in the double price...and losing 120hz.
Excellent review! Very clear and complete. What model of Mac Studio do you use? M1 Max with the 24 GPU core or the 32 cores model?
24 core GPU. I wanted the 32 core but it would have took an extra two months for delivery.
@@ElevatedSystems I'm about to buy Mac Studio. Do you think that there is a significant performance difference between the two models (24 and 32 cores)?. I'm a video editor and colorist. I work mainly with Davinci and Premiere.
you dont by chance have dehancer to see playback on m2?
Thanks for your help.. you are grest.. please help me.. Do you recommend mini m2 pro / 16 ram for video editing and animation??
What is the light bar on your display? What is its purpose? Any brands can recommend to me?
CJ, did you go full time with UA-cam? You've been putting out so many quality videos lately.
Thanks and Yes, other than bieng retired and a husband and Dad, UA-cam is my full time thing.
The Vram issue for PC is totally real. Its a serious issue. What you have to do is right click the clips that won't render out and do "render in place" NOT saying this doesn't suck, just saying that's how you can at least get your render done.
Can't believe NVidia didn't up the Vram in the 4000 series its not good. If your a heavy video editor in resolve you need at least 12 gig of vram for a 4k timeline with effects. 8 will get you in trouble if you try to do a lot of things.
I feel this pain on every more advanced project. 8GB of VRAM is a tragedy in Davinci on PC :(. That's why I'm confused how much RAM I need in my Mac.
@@JoATTech I am probably just going to get a 4080 or 4090. Or I can get a pre-built Dell Xps desktop with a 3090 for 2300 right now. That's a good deal and cheaper than a competitive Mac.
He did this on 13:07 and didn't worked the render in place.
@Emiliano Zapata I have never had the render in place not work. Personal experience. I'm not saying you couldn't have a clip that it won't work on either. You can also do the smart render and that usually allows you to get through the render. All problems we shouldn't have to deal with. I am sure when Blackmagic made the engine, they couldn't imagine Nvidia would not up vram for the next 3 generations of graphic cards.
@@jessecumberledge4530 I opt for 4090. Seems they get cheaper by 100$ last 2 weeks (at least in my country). I've considered 4080, but It I'm afraid 16GB of vram might be not enough soon.
4090 is 42% more expensive but you get 50% more VRAM, faster memory bus and faster card overall.
My only concern is how good it will work with my old mainboard and Razen 7 2700X.
Guess I might have to upgrade my power supply. If I have to update mainboard or CPU (or both) then Mac Studio or M2 Macbook seems better choice.
I would like to get the Mac studio but I want something more future proof. Do you think the Mac Studio would be good still in the long run like in 4 to 5 years? or Mac mini since the chip is more new? I'm trying to get something specifically for video editing but having a hard time deciding. 😭
My advice having supported both would be a PC, as you can generally upgrade specific components. So you could start off with a mid-level system then if you want more ram, just upgrade that bit, need a lot of HDD space, put in 8 spinning disk hard drives in RAID 10 configuration, need better 3d performance? Then the video card (or add a 265/264 card in extra for output speed). And just add as you go.
If you are not comfortable with that (or getting someone reliable to build that) then long-term it will not compete as the m1/m2 are currently slower than last gen PCs and do not get the performance uplift Apple expected, so there is a limiting factor on the processor (this is why all the benches are done at equivalent wattage).
Avoid laptops as the cpus in those are generally ~20% slower and you often cannot upgrade them.
I'm curious to see how a multi-gpu and multi-cpu system (1 of each) would perform with resolve and if there would be any uplift.
CJ, what is the smaller display you have in this video? is it touch as well? TIA!
There are links for all my equipment in the description, the Innocn display is touch capable, but I don't use that function. It doesn't work well on MacOS.
I like what you said about mixing the camera cost to the workstation cost. I'm still on a Lumix gx80/85, h264 4k, do you think the base Mac mini with the higher ram would be an option? Using free resolve? TIA
Excellent test of real life editing workflow. M3 pro/max Mac mini, whenever it arrives, will be the best editing machine with price/performance ratio. And for really complex high end projects, forget about Mac. Just build the most expensive PC with two 4090 cards.
Sorry if you already mentioned this in the video but what codec were you using?
6k BRAW, ProRes 422 HQ, H.264 & H.265 HEVC.
Hey I love the videos. I think you’re the closest to answering my specific use case.
If you can, quick opinion. Between M2pro max mini with 16gb ram and 512 SSD and the base max studio 32GB ram and 1TB SSD.
I am a web dev, so running VS code, PHP web server, 10-12 chrome tabs, photoshop, figma, and zoom at the same time (typical video call).
I don’t do much video editing, although I am capable of it.
Been running in an 8Gb ram intel MacBook Pro with 1 tb.
I’d like to save 1,000 dollars if the m2 pro is enough.
Can I get your expert opinion?
17:00 some people they edit for companies that do in fact use those cameras and files, if you can get away with an M2 mini then it will of course safe you a lot of cost (maybe if you just finished college and are a freelancer.)
True, but as a former Freelance 3D artist I only took jobs that were congruent with my equipment. Missing a deadline or not delivering what the client hired you for is the worst outcome.
Also worth noting that the Mac Studio is tiny, silent, and would only use around 50-60W during the render 😅
We need competition in the PC space. Discrete CPU/GPU/RAM systems need to give way to the SoC future 🙏
I heard the ssd memory is still slow with the Mac mini M2. Think I will skip out on the mini M2 and see what else they toss out down the line.
Excellent content!
This video is fab. Both as a review is the M2 Mac Mini, but also a great behind the scenes look at how your videos & common effects come together.
It’s encouraging me to have to a go at some video editing :)
This was an impressive video, it only lacked an M2 Ultra test which I'm planning to get.
Very helpful video
I'm doubting myself if going for a mac mini pro M2 512gb 16gb ram (1300$) or if i should for a 1500$ gaming pc with i7 12700k, 32gb DDR5 5600mhz, Asus Prime z790-A. 980 Samsung PRO 1TB SSD, RTX 3060 Asus dual, 650w.
Did you buy the m1 max studio or m1 ultra studio 10 months ago?
M1 Max base model.
Awesome & Thanks :)
What is this long cylinder clipped to the top of your widescreen monitor?
you confirmed my decision to buy 3060 ti 8GB. but is it worth it to upgrade from m1 air to i5-1300F with 16Gig and 3060ti? i use basic grading on a 1080p timeline.
Why not put cc nodes on timeline instead of an adjustment layer?
Any performance improvement?
Good video, but as to your setup. I can't find any reliable information on the Delta E on that INNOCN monitor. And also It doesn't seem to me you are running the video feed out of a Blackmagic Ultra Studio, are you? If not, even if that INNOCN were a Delta E below 2, the color would not be accurate enough for professional delivery,
The Innocn is the closest panel I could find to an OLED cell phone display which is what over 70% of my content is consumed on. It's not for professional delivery, it's for UA-cam delivery.
Hey what's the configuration of the Mac mini m2 pro on which you tested? I'm planning to buy the Mac mini 2 m2 pro with 10 core cpu, 16 core GPU, 16gb Ram and 512 GB SSD. I need to edit a full length feature film shot on prores HQ on iphone 13 pro Max. I really wish I could buy the additional 16gb ram but it's quite expensive. I have about 5tb of footage. So wondering if I'll be able to edit it comfortably in the aforementioned setup? And also will i able to do basic graphics with the same setup?
Thanks for your response if you can, it would help me greatly. I'm planning to purchase soon in a couple of days if you could reply by the time it would be awesome!! Thanks
have you tried r3d or prores raw files on this?
Hey which you recommend for adobe after effects? Pc or macbook??
After Effects will be in an upcoming video.
What your experience with the INNOCN 15.6" OLED Portable Monitor?
It's the closest display I could find to an OLED cell phone display and allows me to edit my videos so they look best on the devices most people watch my content on.
I'm editing 1080p talking Head videos and all I want to do is use the magic mask person tracker to mask the person so that I can lower the exposure on everything but the subject, the videos are about 40 minutes long. My 2019 MacBook pro 16 acts like my 4-year-old would act if I asked her to pick up my car and she tried. It won't do it. Will the M2 pro chip do it? Or should I get a Mac studio?
Are the people you are tracking mostly stationary? If so you might just want to use a power window for exposure control. But yes the M2 Pro will do that.
@@ElevatedSystems Thanks so much! Sometimes they sit still but most of the time they get pretty frisky. It's church sermons so really varies preacher to preacher, or what mood they're in. The other night I thought I had an easy one because the preacher was sitting on a stool almost the whole time, then out of nowhere he just stands up and starts walking around for 2 minutes and then sits back down in the stool for the rest of it... And I thought, "did you really have to do that"? 😂
What are your specs on the Mac Mini Pro?
Hello. Would you recommend any Laptops over a Macbook Pro for using Davinci Ressolve? Also is it better to get the M2 for Davinci Ressolve or is M1 okay when using Davinci Ressolve? I appreciate any information. Thank you.
Just curious why you shoot 50fps then drop into a 30fps timeline? You're jumping from PAL to NTSC. Why not just do 60fps?
50FPS is the fastest the BMPCC6K will do in full frame 6K. I'd have to drop to ProRes on a cropped sensor for 60 or above and also give up gen 5 color. I shoot b-roll at a higher fps for the smoother slow motion.
why 50fps? Are you authoring to PAL?
IIRC the Nvidia encoder affects the finial quality of the output. Footage modified in Handbrake and exported via NVENC looked significantly worse than a CPU only render. Can anyone confirm that this would be the case with Divinci as well?
You can't compare the two, as the way Handbrake and DR uses the NVENC differently.
My experience is, that if you render out to a low bitrate, Handbrake does it better, than DR, and with higher bitrate, DR does it better.
But you can do your own testing with FFMetrics. Im just curious why you would compare Handbrake to DR, as they do different things.
Why not show cpu and gpu usage on the screen,being so large it wouldn't bother you and we could see what is used and where.
I have this gripe with my rtx3060: I think it NEVER reached 100% load. Not even 70%..
I had a similar problem with davinci failing on clips with NR. I found that lowering the number of frames that davinci has to analyze for NR fixed the issue for me. Not ideal but at least it finished the project.
You can just right-click the clip and choose "Render in place". Then that clip will be pre-rendered.
Or right-click the node in the color page with the NR and enable caching.
Isn’t there a bottleneck problem with the usb-c external storage in this test? Wouldn’t it be better to do a test like this on the data stored on the internal SSD instead?
No
I have a TB enclosure with a 2tb NVME in it and it tops out at a out 2500 read which is barely slower than the internal from what I have seen. I also have 3 in a RAID 0 and funnily enough they smash the new internals below 1tb. That may well be overkill but 6tb in 3 drives cost me less than half the price of an internal.
Excellent job!! I totally agree with the comments about the smoothness of editing a video! Great to see. If you were to upgrade the memory to 32GB or to go with the full CPU and GPU cores (12/19). Which do you think would help more for editing tough video?
In Resolve the GPU is more important.
@@ElevatedSystems ok, but you indicated the PC crashed died from not having enough vRAM. Adding RAM on the Mac will increase the Available vRAM. Also, going with the 19 core GPU will increase the GPU speed. So both could?
Interested to hear this..
@@drsmith1988 But at that point it be cheaper to go with the M1 Max Studio which already has 32Gb of RAM and a 24 core GPU. Plus 10Gbps ethernet and more connectivity and runs cool and quiet.
@@ElevatedSystems I don’t know exactly what happens in Resolve. But, have seen photography work flows that are heavy GPU use, that show much more than the 30% expected. Blender is showing double the performance. If I buy the M2 pro Mini, I might get upgrade the GPU, or RAM, but not both.
From people that examine the chips, there are definite changes external to the GPUs which I am sure account for some of the surprising results. Although not every program shows the surprising results.
Aren't official requirements for B-raw, FullHD 4GB VRAM, 4K 8GB VRAM, 8K 16GB VRAM, 12K 24GB VRAM?
Hello need one help .is it possible to use 3d max on mac studio ?🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
No, there is no 3ds Max version for the Mac.
In today's cost, that's a $900 pc. The 13500 with igpu and a 4070ti would match the Mac mini cost and give a huge performance boost over your current pc setup. Not sure it's a fair test given it's the cheapest 13gen cpu