So you know, Jordan won 3 and retired due to his father's murder. They deliberately leave that out, Jordan's dad was found decomposing in a swamp with 2 gunshot wounds to the head. Had to be identified via dental records, played baseball to honor his dad, which was his dad's initial dream for Jordan... He came back after 18 months off and won 3 more chips, 3 more FMVPs for a total of 6 FMVPs, 2 more MVPs, 3 more All-NBA first-team defense, 2 more All-Star MVPs, and 3 more scoring titles for a total of 10. I know you like Lebron, but Jordan was the literal epitome of dominance. Longevity is something the media created in a feeble attempt to elevate LeBron over Jordan. For example, Robert Parish has more total career points than Bernard King (go look it up) cuz he played for 20 years, but... you will never hear anyone say Parish is a better scorer than King. But somehow, in the Lebron v Jordan "debate"...its suddenly a thing. Look, Jordan has an NBA record 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1. There's no universe where anyone who is being objective would say Lebron is a better scorer than Jordan. If you put it in perspective, if Jordan played 15-17 consecutive seasons, averaging his career ppg of 30.1 (you read that right) ....he'd have like 41k+ points in 5 less seasons than Lebron's 22. So we need to stop. Jordan is the best.
- 6'6", 48 vert, quick and agile as a cat - best layup package ever (Kyrie Irving 2nd) - best finisher ever, one of the best dunkers ever (Vince Carter 1st) - top tier defender (won dpoy AND scoring title in the same season) - elite fundamentals, awesome ball handling and footwork - fade away master - mentally/physically tough as nails - the most competitive player in the NBA - top tier clutch gene - NCAA champ, 6-0 NBA champ, 10x scoring titles, 1x dpoy, 2-0 Olympic gold, a ton of other 1st in stats/metrics. - 9x 82 games played, incl @40 yr old with a busted knee. - all the above in 13 full seasons - The GOAT.
There's plenty of reasons why LeFlop isn't the GOAT, but I'll give you a recent one. Forcing the team you play for to draft your son, who doesn't deserve to be in the NBA, just so you can get your name in the history books. That pretty much sums him up.
LeBron is not the GOAT. He accomplished less in more seasons. No one thinks he sucks, but first in scoring? He’s also first in turnovers…so by your logic, he’s the most careless with the ball that’s ever been. Jordan has 10 scoring titles to LeBron’s 1. Jordan has a Defensive Player of the Year. He murdered the NBA during his time. Not sure what LeBron has over Jordan that’s not stat padding.
id give bron the passing but they are still really close though cuz mike is a really good passer he got his big ass hands he can playmake. Mike is just more creative than bron in general he got a bigger bag than bron which is why i got him as my goat
@@Masanobu24bron is not a better passer than mj esp since mj is a shooting gaurd,also mj has less turnovers per game while avging 5 assists per game,mj has a 10 game triple double streak when he played pg and still avged over 30ppg during that 24 game stretch,there’s NOTHING that lebron is better than mj at on the basketball court or off it
Well, I think he (LeFemme) sucks. He's lazy, he doesn't work on his weaknesses, and he's been pampered his entire career because the NBA needs to sell tickets. He's not top 20 of all time.
How is it over when there was never a debate. It's not even close! For LeBron or anybody. Nobody did more in less time than MJ. That's no debate either
@shaheempashua6924 Total points scored is 11...points average per game, is 10. Jordan led the NBA in total points scored his rookie season. I told you it would be fun
Nobody had more confidence than MJ. He was fearless. He wanted the heat and excelled even more when he was challenged. He surpassed his play in the playoffs and then went even higher in the finals under the most pressure on the biggest stage of all. Many of the highlights in this mixtape are from the finals. His dominance was overwhelming. He won 3 in a row, left the game for almost two years, then came back and won 3 more in a row. Nobody is ever going to be able to do that again. Ever. He never let up on defense, never quit on his team, and instead of wanting to play with the best, he only wanted to beat the best. And he did. Btw, LBJ isn’t even remotely close to MJ and he never will be.
There is a yt video with this stat. It compares Kobe's map year to mj's rookie year. But I can not find the video. Please tell me the title of the video where you got this info
@@POVJAKELive for a rookie to only be outscored by one player by one point To lead his teams in all facets of the game Points Steals Blocks Rebounds is unheard of no matter what era you're playing in Fyi Michael Jordan torched the NBA all stars in a 8 game sweep paying for the Olympic team before he ver played a game in the league That team had Bird and Magic on it amongst other Hall of famers
I guarantee if he felt he needed the 3 pt shot, he would have practiced until he was able to shoot 40% from 3. When he put his mind to getting better, he practiced until he was better.
I agree. MJ had that 3 pt range when he needed it. The 3pt shot wasn't a crucial part of the game 30+ yrs ago as it is today, so he didn't take as many. But he was deadly outside, especially as he got a little older
How is Lebron accomplished more than MJ? How? MJ has won more with 1 All Star and has more accomplishments in less time and Lebron still has lost more than Jordan. Losing a Championship is not an Accomplishment.. Championships, REG MVPs, Finals MVPs, Scoring Titles, DPOY, All First Team is an accomplishment, R.O.Ys . (TROPHIES ARE ACCOMPLISHMENTS) Cummulative stats speaks on Longevity
LeBron gets credit. he's just got the goat. Jordan won 3. Retired. Came back and won 3. Only reason he didn't have more is b/c his dad was murdered so he retired to go try baseball which his dad had always wished he'd focused on.
Not to mention, MJ lost a bit of his love for the game cause his father was murdered! MJ went to play baseball, so he could sport his dad's old number 45.
@@JohnBrown-rh1zcThat's true. So few of the players were mad when he came back. Who wouldn't need a break after something like that happening? The Birmingham fans were good to Michael.
Jordan wasn't slow. In fact, if you can find footage of his coaches talking about his speed, he was actually fast. He just moved so effortlessly. It's almost like looking at a golf swing by a professional golfer. It looks slow to the naked eye, but when it is timed, it's actually well above 100 miles per hour. Or even looking at Usain Bolt. His stride length made home look like he wasn't running as fast as the other sprinters, until you see him in relation to the other sprinters. Randy Moss was the same way. He made playing in the NBA look easy.
Here's a question for you. How exactly do you think a man who only plays half of the game is better than the man who was the best offensive player and 1 of the best defender's (if not the best defender) in history?? Make it make sense boss. LeChoke James only has 8,633 more career points than Jordan and has played 9 less seasons than James!! Jordan missed all but 16 game's with a broken foot in his 2nd year and then only played 17 games in the season he returned from baseball.. I don't understand why you people use his career records to attempt to justify you picking James over Jordan!! If Jordan would have played 22 seasons he would be way ahead above James in equal amount of years played!! If Jordan would have played 22 seasons he would have scored 54,000 (estimated by season averages) and James has 41,000 so that argument doesn't make sense
@aht3261 pointing out something obvious that everyone sees and knows is happening isn't hate dude!!! This soft ass mentality is something different!!!! Lmao
As an 'old head', I can tell you that Jordan was doing this stuff just about every night. And he never took a night off. If he could play, he played. There was no "load management". And the defense separates him from the rest. 9 times All-NBA defense. Dude was a menace.
I don’t have a problem with Lebron he is a good player but he is not in Jordan level,to be the goat you have to be a winner,for me 6 loses in the biggest stage with superteam and really bad performance on those finals remove you automatically out of the top 5 period
@@POVJAKELiveu do knw that mj has the most accomplishments in nba history right?along with the most accolades?research b4 u speak and try to claim lebron is even a good player when compared to the greats,lebron is by far one of the worst players ever in nba history,try to do a lebron highlight reaction and see how many ppl even care to watch ur reaction smh
😂🤣😂 Love it! When people react to Jordan and see what we that witnessed when MJ played during the 80’s and 90’s. They are also in a state of shock and rewind the video several times. M23J CHICAGO’S LEGENDARY GOAT!
Guy was more likely to get 50 in the playoffs than under 20. He also was only outscored in a playoff series in terms of total points once in his career and it was by one point
@@POVJAKELiveno player that jump teams to chase rings and still lose more than they win does not make that player comparable with being a great player,thats dumb as hell smh 🤦🏾♂️ u based greatness on FAILURE,mj fans based greatness on WINNING smh
I'm not sure who told you or where you where you get your information but it's off regarding "Jordan not being a great shooter" because Jordan is one of the best shooters in NBA history boss
You may view King Con as the GOAT but the four studs that helped carry him to chips (Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, AD) don't. Kyrie has Kobe and the other three Black Jesus. Three cats that won Finals MVP on King Con's watch (K. Leonard, Iguodala, Durant) also view MJ as the GOAT. A whole bunch of Vasectomy Valor's ex-teammates (Westbrook, Haslem, Eddie House, Chalmers, Norris Cole, Stackhouse, Brendan Haywood and Larry Hughes) view MJ as GOAT. The pretty lady (Jeanie Buss) that pays Massengill Mentality his immense salary views MJ as the GOAT. Even NBA commish (Adam Silver) and today's finest (Doncic, Tatum, Curry, Lillard, Zion, Harden Butler, Edwards, Ingram, Kuzma, LaVine, Mitchell) view MJ as the GOAT.
We can all have our opinions, but Michael Jordan accomplished far more in an 11-year stretch than LeBron James has in 22 years. No cap. If longevity was truly the measuring stick for being the NBA GOAT, Kareem Abdul Jabbar would’ve been the GOAT years ago, bruh. Kareem would’ve also been considered the GOAT for being the one-time NBA leading scorer with 38,387 points. He wasn’t though.🤷🏽♂️ Jordan played 3 years of college ball, yet still won 6 NBA championships, won 5 MVPs, won 6 NBA Finals MVPs, won 10 NBA scoring titles, won NBA Defensive Player Of The Year and was a 9-time All NBA First Team Defense selection. What made Jordan so cold was that dude retired TWICE (1993) and (1998) when he was STILL the best player in the NBA. LeBron can’t hold a candle to Jordan.
To be clear. Michael Jordan was a deadly shooter. Deadly defender, boy he did everything better than most. Many would arguee the best midrange shooter in the league. Lebron is not a good shooter outside 3 feet from the basket. That is a fact. Look for it and youll see. Not hating on you bro, and i like Lebron's game. It is just Michael Jordan was in a league of his own, just making it clear how it really was. There was Michael, then everybody else, Cheers Brother...
Highest vert ever @48", many HOF coaches like Bobby Knight have spoken how he has the biggest hands pound for pound. Highest vert ever @48", many HOF coaches like Bobby Knight have spoken how he has the biggest hands pound for pound. Best mid range shooter ever. I link to an espn article and it deletes the comment. He been in the league that long, and yet MJ did all he did in like 13 seasons when you look at his retirements, and he missed nearly all the games in his second year with a broken foot. Saw a vid where a guy calculated MJ's scoring if he played 8 more seasons to make it 20 seasons, and he did a slow decline, avg decline, and if he declined quickly. MJ would have slightly over 41, xxx points to over 44,xxxx depending on what sim he used. But on the other hand MJ didn't need to play that long to easily be the GOAT.
Jordan's had abnormally large hands too. His hands were either longer or wider than Wilt Chamberlain's. He could "hang" in the air and release the ball _after_ the apex of his jump. This is something I rarely see any player do since he retired. And it was something he did all the time. That combined with his speed and ability to maintain his balance at all times while doing acrobatic moves in the air, made him impossible to guard. He could also read defenses before they were positioned and reacted to them ahead of time. It's like he was genetically engineered in a lab to play basketball.
It's okay. You can admit it. There's no shame. Obviously, you want to support your guy. I get it. I agree, Lebron is amazing. One of the best. Just not THE best.
Yes LeBron leads the NBA in total points just like he leads in turnovers and missed FGs. That’s a part of longevity. He’s 4th in assists but 24th in per game. Stockton is 1st and 2nd in per game. If LeBron had that ratio, he’d have a case for 🐐
Crazy thing is he got those highlights every single night. He was so good that it became boring to see something spectacular. He really was “the #1 MVP in the world”. He’s not just “the best basketball player ever”. He’s the “best player in any major sport” ever. Lebron is a great player, but he’s honestly not close to being Jordan. Lebron is “A” goat. Jordan is “THE” goat.
Winning scoring title, mvp, fmvp, chip, defensive 1 team the same season 4 times, thats something Lebron never did!! He can’t even score a bucket against a former 50 year old nba player with handchecking rule. That show how easy it is to build up stats in this soft modern era!!!
Lebron is amazing, a sensational generational player, I can't imagine someone like him would come again. But he's not the GOAT, he is still 2nd best, nobody eclipses Mike.
My Top Three players of alll time are #! Michael Jordan #2 Larry Bird #3 Magic Johnson. MJ was by far the Goat. He was the Best Scorer and best defender. He was the greatest Winner. Did you see MJ shoot from behind the Backboard and make the shot? Larry Bird made a similar shot.
Ok so you take Prime Kobe, and prime Vince Carter, mix them, then you have Jordan. Jordan was a super skilled assassin with the ball in his hands that had Vince Carter explosiveness. These kids think Anthony Edwards is him, well take Ant and imagine him 5-10 times more skilled. LeBron never even came close, and kobe only came close to the late Jordan who was in his second run that wasn't nearly as explosive.
The closest I ever saw to Jordan aside from Kobe was the late Len Bias. Imagine if he has lived and joined the '80s Celtics. That loss still makes me hurt.
Theres a reason they call the next big star in other sports the " Michael Jordan " of, whatever sport it may be. Because he was, is and will always be The GOAT Thanks for taking the time to share your reaction
Check the official speeds and you will find that jordan is not only faster than Lebron coast to coast but also has a much higher vertical. You can look these stats up. MJ is the GOAT, no meltdowns in the finals and if by chance you happen to be one of those young cats who hangs their heads on "But Lebron went to 10 finals!" think about this Magic Johnson went to 9 finals, won 5 and did it in just 13 seasons! That's right 5 chips, 9 appearances in 13, not 4 chips, 10 appearances in 22...just saying 🤔
@@POVJAKELive On the real whom ever you have as your GOAT is your decision but base that decision on facts and knowledge and what you "THINK" not on your "FEELINGS" as a man especially a young black man the world don't give a shit about your feelings so rely upon your mind❤ Same advice I have given both my sons and grandsons.
@@POVJAKELivelebron goes to the finals to lose,mj goes there to win,how many 3peats does lebron have?dpoy award?slam dunk award?stl awards?scoring titles?
Now just think, everything you just seen on this vid, that MJ did. Now put in mind he won 10 consecutive scoring titles, 3 steals titles, DPOY award, 5 MVPs, 6 Championships, 6 Finals MVPs, and 2 3peats. And ALL of that in a true 11 1/2 years with Chicago. Now how can someone with the BEST EVER highlights, only undefeated Finals MVP in finals with more than 1 appearance can NOT be the GOAT? All feelings aside, Lebron is BARELY in my top 10. And that’s only because of all these empty seasons he’s playing to run up almost meaningless stats. The longer he plays without a championship the lower he goes on my ALL TIME List. Say Bron plays 25 yrs, and leads in almost EVERY total important stat there is but has 4 championships. Now would someone choose him with 4 championships in 25 years, or Magic with 5 championships in 13 years? And I don’t wanna hear well you’ll only have Magic for 13 years and Lebron for 25. Well what team did Bron play on longer than 7 years? Exactly!!! You’d have Bron for 7 years the most before he abandons ship. THERE’S NO WAY BRON IS AHEAD OF MJ
Iabron don’t suck but for a man to play as long as he have ALL HIS STATS SHOULD BE GREATER THAN JORDAN BUT THERE NOT! There is no way he is even in the same arena as Jordan! Lebron gotta win 9 more scoring titles just to name one thing and there are many!
40 feet 4.38 young man.. mj was never slow at the bulls. Wizards his speed and athleticism was gone, played on one leg… but that’s the time you really saw his skill. Watch the Voyager vid and his wizards days, then you maybe understand the 90 and why mj is the only goat
Hey Man, Michal Jordan had a 48 Inch Vertical Jump So That Why He Could Stay In The Air So Long and He Had Huge Hands and Longer Fingers !!!! So That Why He Could Palm The Basketball Like He Did !!!!!
Watch other videos of Jordan like Jordan vs LeBron debate Jordan has the most accolades in NBA history with 37 but yet u say lebron is the goat and he has the same amount of losses as Jordan 6 chips lebron hasn't won an MVP since he was 28 he's about to be 40 bro lebron fans say he dominated the league how when there has been other players to win the chip on his watch when Jordan finally won his first chip he stayed on top and countless greats were denied a chip lebron is also the all time leader in turnovers and missed shots in NBA history
Dude watch the video 16 straight minutes of facts that will convince you Michael Jordan is Da Goat. This definitely ends any doubt about who is Da GOAT. 😊
It was an honor to watch him play. Saw him a couple times in person. He was an alien the way he played. Every night was an event. Other players feared him and lost sleep the night before. He made the impossible look possible. Gave us something to believe in. The undisputed 🐐.
Jordan's one of the best shooters ever not sure how people think he can't shoot...you see how he ended his career in Chicago with the shot don't believe everything you hear about Jordan's weaknesses...He had none!
His father was murdered as well, but yeah he came back in baseball shape legs were a bit heavy for basketball, helped the bulls finish out the last 17 games of the season were they met Shaq and Penny (Orlando Magic) and got bounced from the eastern playoffs. Trained his body back into basketball shape over the summer and won 3 more chips back to back to back. Oh by the way met that same Magic team and swept they ass. Please educate yourself Jordan is a much better shooter than Lebron is....check your boy's shooting 3ft from the basket...then check Jordan's who's not a good shooter?
I have to say this as an old head who has studied the history of the NBA and i have compiled my all time team. It took me about 18 months to do my research on it and it is about as dominant a team that could ever be put together on an NBA floor. Starters PG. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson SG. Michael Jordan PF. Kobe Bryant SF. Larry Bird C. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 2nd Unit PG. John Stockton SG. Allen Iverson PF. Shaquille O'Neal SF. Bill Russel C. Wilt Chamberlain Reserves G. Reggie Miller C. Patrick Ewing F. Karl Malone G. Dennis Johnson There are still so many players left off this team bust as you can see it is an OP team that can play in any era and be successful.
Respect to all them 80s 90s big men that weren't afraid to get posterized. Todays defense would never, all to scared to play true defense. Edit MJ is and will always be the GOAT 🐐 🙌🏽
LeBron is not the goat but he is a NBA legend that deserves credit. Jordan was just in class of his own. When you check out the stats you’ll see Jordan edges LeBron on the stats as well. LeBron has flaws. Jordan by far was a more all around fundamentally sound player on both sides of the ball and I wouldn’t want any other player on my team in a clutch moment than Jordan.
Jordan was insanely skilled, insanely athletic, and to top it all off, he was insanely locked in. Probably the most competitive player in NBA history.
@@guzzopinc1646 I believe it!!!💯
Consecutive playoff series as leading scorer: Olajuwan 11, Kobe 10, Kareem 9, Malone 9, Lebron 8, Baylor 8, Mikan 8, Iverson 8, Wilt 7, Moses 7, Pierce 7, Dr.J 6, KD 6, T-Mac 6, Barry 5, Bird 5, Shaq 5, West 5, Robertson 5, Nowitzki 5, McAdoo 5, Doncic 5, Carmelo 5... MJ 36
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MF 🐐 shit🫡
There was NEVER a debate to begin with. Only those with no self awareness or standards think there is.
Facts! The debate was manufactured for clicks!
So you know, Jordan won 3 and retired due to his father's murder. They deliberately leave that out, Jordan's dad was found decomposing in a swamp with 2 gunshot wounds to the head. Had to be identified via dental records, played baseball to honor his dad, which was his dad's initial dream for Jordan... He came back after 18 months off and won 3 more chips, 3 more FMVPs for a total of 6 FMVPs, 2 more MVPs, 3 more All-NBA first-team defense, 2 more All-Star MVPs, and 3 more scoring titles for a total of 10. I know you like Lebron, but Jordan was the literal epitome of dominance. Longevity is something the media created in a feeble attempt to elevate LeBron over Jordan. For example, Robert Parish has more total career points than Bernard King (go look it up) cuz he played for 20 years, but... you will never hear anyone say Parish is a better scorer than King. But somehow, in the Lebron v Jordan "debate"...its suddenly a thing. Look, Jordan has an NBA record 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1. There's no universe where anyone who is being objective would say Lebron is a better scorer than Jordan. If you put it in perspective, if Jordan played 15-17 consecutive seasons, averaging his career ppg of 30.1 (you read that right) ....he'd have like 41k+ points in 5 less seasons than Lebron's 22. So we need to stop. Jordan is the best.
@@mikehammer1777My comment was in favor of Jordan, not Lebron. I totally agree with everything you said.
@mikehammer1777 My comment was in favor of Jordan, not Lebron. I agree with everything you said.
- 6'6", 48 vert, quick and agile as a cat
- best layup package ever (Kyrie Irving 2nd)
- best finisher ever, one of the best dunkers ever (Vince Carter 1st)
- top tier defender (won dpoy AND scoring title in the same season)
- elite fundamentals, awesome ball handling and footwork
- fade away master
- mentally/physically tough as nails
- the most competitive player in the NBA
- top tier clutch gene
- NCAA champ, 6-0 NBA champ, 10x scoring titles, 1x dpoy, 2-0 Olympic gold, a ton of other 1st in stats/metrics.
- 9x 82 games played, incl @40 yr old with a busted knee.
- all the above in 13 full seasons
- The GOAT.
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Also retired 3 times total.
@@UndeadHermit and stil achieved more than LeBystander 👍
There's plenty of reasons why LeFlop isn't the GOAT, but I'll give you a recent one. Forcing the team you play for to draft your son, who doesn't deserve to be in the NBA, just so you can get your name in the history books. That pretty much sums him up.
LeBron should have good numbers. Anyone that they change the rules for to make the game softer for, should be able to put up big numbers.
mj is by far the most spectaculare player ever
LeBron is not the GOAT. He accomplished less in more seasons. No one thinks he sucks, but first in scoring? He’s also first in turnovers…so by your logic, he’s the most careless with the ball that’s ever been. Jordan has 10 scoring titles to LeBron’s 1. Jordan has a Defensive Player of the Year. He murdered the NBA during his time. Not sure what LeBron has over Jordan that’s not stat padding.
id give bron the passing but they are still really close though cuz mike is a really good passer he got his big ass hands he can playmake. Mike is just more creative than bron in general he got a bigger bag than bron which is why i got him as my goat
Lebron is also 1st in missed shots,I notice it seems like everybody wants to ignore h8m being 1st all time in missed shots🤔wonder why that is….
@@Masanobu24bron is not a better passer than mj esp since mj is a shooting gaurd,also mj has less turnovers per game while avging 5 assists per game,mj has a 10 game triple double streak when he played pg and still avged over 30ppg during that 24 game stretch,there’s NOTHING that lebron is better than mj at on the basketball court or off it
@@fitzroy6970 facts!!! he would've been the best PG in the history of the game if he wanted to
Well, I think he (LeFemme) sucks. He's lazy, he doesn't work on his weaknesses, and he's been pampered his entire career because the NBA needs to sell tickets. He's not top 20 of all time.
How is it over when there was never a debate. It's not even close! For LeBron or anybody. Nobody did more in less time than MJ. That's no debate either
Wait til you see "jordan vs lebron the best goat comparison" by DangerProductions.
Facts watch that video.
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Yep, that's the one to watch not only for the stats part
Fun fact:
From age 21 to 35, Jordan played 11 full seasons with the Chicago Bulls.
He led the NBA in total points scored 11 times.
It's 10 times
@shaheempashua6924 11.
@shaheempashua6924 Total points scored is 11...points average per game, is 10.
Jordan led the NBA in total points scored his rookie season.
I told you it would be fun
Nobody had more confidence than MJ. He was fearless. He wanted the heat and excelled even more when he was challenged. He surpassed his play in the playoffs and then went even higher in the finals under the most pressure on the biggest stage of all. Many of the highlights in this mixtape are from the finals. His dominance was overwhelming. He won 3 in a row, left the game for almost two years, then came back and won 3 more in a row. Nobody is ever going to be able to do that again. Ever. He never let up on defense, never quit on his team, and instead of wanting to play with the best, he only wanted to beat the best. And he did.
Btw, LBJ isn’t even remotely close to MJ and he never will be.
Facts 💯
Jordans rookie season numbers are the same as Kobe's MVP year numbers😲🤯
@@shaheempashua6924 good point but the game was much different back then though
@@POVJAKELiveIt was much tougher during Jordan’s era.
There is a yt video with this stat. It compares Kobe's map year to mj's rookie year. But I can not find the video. Please tell me the title of the video where you got this info
@@POVJAKELive for a rookie to only be outscored by one player by one point To lead his teams in all facets of the game Points Steals Blocks Rebounds is unheard of no matter what era you're playing in
Fyi Michael Jordan torched the NBA all stars in a 8 game sweep paying for the Olympic team before he ver played a game in the league
That team had Bird and Magic on it amongst other Hall of famers
@@chenemc8953 I believe it's Michael Jordan rookie season video that has it I'm not sure anymore
Mike was a GREAT shooter. Had nothing to do with his huge hands. He didn’t shoot much 3’s, but from 10-22 feet he was a deadly shooter.
Facts💯
I guarantee if he felt he needed the 3 pt shot, he would have practiced until he was able to shoot 40% from 3. When he put his mind to getting better, he practiced until he was better.
I agree. MJ had that 3 pt range when he needed it. The 3pt shot wasn't a crucial part of the game 30+ yrs ago as it is today, so he didn't take as many. But he was deadly outside, especially as he got a little older
I think you’re the first person in the history of mankind, to say Jordan was slow.
TBF, I think he said he was watching the “old Jordan” videos. Probably from the Wizards.
Not one player that played against him would say that 😂😂😂😂
How is Lebron accomplished more than MJ? How? MJ has won more with 1 All Star and has more accomplishments in less time and Lebron still has lost more than Jordan. Losing a Championship is not an Accomplishment.. Championships, REG MVPs, Finals MVPs, Scoring Titles, DPOY, All First Team is an accomplishment, R.O.Ys . (TROPHIES ARE ACCOMPLISHMENTS) Cummulative stats speaks on Longevity
LeBron gets credit. he's just got the goat. Jordan won 3. Retired. Came back and won 3. Only reason he didn't have more is b/c his dad was murdered so he retired to go try baseball which his dad had always wished he'd focused on.
Not to mention, MJ lost a bit of his love for the game cause his father was murdered!
MJ went to play baseball, so he could sport his dad's old number 45.
@@JohnBrown-rh1zcThat's true. So few of the players were mad when he came back. Who wouldn't need a break after something like that happening? The Birmingham fans were good to Michael.
How did this even become a debate...MJ all day
Jordan wasn't slow. In fact, if you can find footage of his coaches talking about his speed, he was actually fast.
He just moved so effortlessly. It's almost like looking at a golf swing by a professional golfer. It looks slow to the naked eye, but when it is timed, it's actually well above 100 miles per hour. Or even looking at Usain Bolt. His stride length made home look like he wasn't running as fast as the other sprinters, until you see him in relation to the other sprinters. Randy Moss was the same way.
He made playing in the NBA look easy.
Now you know why they call them Air Jordan
Here's a question for you. How exactly do you think a man who only plays half of the game is better than the man who was the best offensive player and 1 of the best defender's (if not the best defender) in history?? Make it make sense boss. LeChoke James only has 8,633 more career points than Jordan and has played 9 less seasons than James!! Jordan missed all but 16 game's with a broken foot in his 2nd year and then only played 17 games in the season he returned from baseball.. I don't understand why you people use his career records to attempt to justify you picking James over Jordan!! If Jordan would have played 22 seasons he would be way ahead above James in equal amount of years played!! If Jordan would have played 22 seasons he would have scored 54,000 (estimated by season averages) and James has 41,000 so that argument doesn't make sense
@@curtayars7344 good point 🤔
Exactly!!!!!
Men you don’t have to put hate on Lebron when you’re trying to explain. Lebron is great but he’s not Jordan.
And le bron’s era is easier to score in.. it’s a higher scoring rule set.
@aht3261 pointing out something obvious that everyone sees and knows is happening isn't hate dude!!! This soft ass mentality is something different!!!! Lmao
1000 reasons why MJ is da GOAT by faaar! Young gunz: Please remember we saw BOTH for decades 😊
As an 'old head', I can tell you that Jordan was doing this stuff just about every night. And he never took a night off. If he could play, he played. There was no "load management". And the defense separates him from the rest. 9 times All-NBA defense. Dude was a menace.
Magic and Bird are greater than Bronny Sr.
Jordan is the only guard in the top 10 of biggest hands in nba history.
I actually wondered how Kawhi's mitts compared to Jordan's.
48 inch vertical at the combine. Still the highest in NBA history.
on MJ's speed.... Jordan ran a 4.38-second 40-yard dash in 1982, according to University of North Carolina coach Roy Williams
What u mean he's not a good shooter??? MJ is one of the best mid range shooters the game has ever seen... if not THE greatest.
I don’t have a problem with Lebron he is a good player but he is not in Jordan level,to be the goat you have to be a winner,for me 6 loses in the biggest stage with superteam and really bad performance on those finals remove you automatically out of the top 5 period
Mj is the greatest ever no argument. That was his last shot with the bulls
@@jasonlong9120 good way to end it!
@@POVJAKELiveu do knw that mj has the most accomplishments in nba history right?along with the most accolades?research b4 u speak and try to claim lebron is even a good player when compared to the greats,lebron is by far one of the worst players ever in nba history,try to do a lebron highlight reaction and see how many ppl even care to watch ur reaction smh
😂🤣😂 Love it! When people react to Jordan and see what we that witnessed when MJ played during the 80’s and 90’s. They are also in a state of shock and rewind the video several times. M23J CHICAGO’S LEGENDARY GOAT!
Guy was more likely to get 50 in the playoffs than under 20. He also was only outscored in a playoff series in terms of total points once in his career and it was by one point
says: "I'm going off accomplishments" - but still picks Lebron.
Lebron fans are slow smh at this point just accept them as the fool they are and pity them😒
"Jordan vs LeBron the best GOAT comparison". React to that video. Good reaction bro.
@@23gobears bet and thank you!!
@@POVJAKELiveno player that jump teams to chase rings and still lose more than they win does not make that player comparable with being a great player,thats dumb as hell smh 🤦🏾♂️ u based greatness on FAILURE,mj fans based greatness on WINNING smh
Saying MJ wasn't the best shooter shows you don't know much of MJ. Mid range there's no one better
@@bubbles1525_ I did say that lol I I think I meant 3 point shooter
@POVJAKELive yea MJ was average 3 point shooter, but if he had to shoot the 3 more, I have no doubt he would improve beyond average
I'm not sure who told you or where you where you get your information but it's off regarding "Jordan not being a great shooter" because Jordan is one of the best shooters in NBA history boss
The debate is now just for fun but truth be told, it was over a few seasons ago.
There never was a debate,there never will be a debate
You may view King Con as the GOAT but the four studs that helped carry him to chips (Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, AD) don't. Kyrie has Kobe and the other three Black Jesus. Three cats that won Finals MVP on King Con's watch (K. Leonard, Iguodala, Durant) also view MJ as the GOAT. A whole bunch of Vasectomy Valor's ex-teammates (Westbrook, Haslem, Eddie House, Chalmers, Norris Cole, Stackhouse, Brendan Haywood and Larry Hughes) view MJ as GOAT. The pretty lady (Jeanie Buss) that pays Massengill Mentality his immense salary views MJ as the GOAT. Even NBA commish (Adam Silver) and today's finest (Doncic, Tatum, Curry, Lillard, Zion, Harden Butler, Edwards, Ingram, Kuzma, LaVine, Mitchell) view MJ as the GOAT.
We can all have our opinions, but Michael Jordan accomplished far more in an 11-year stretch than LeBron James has in 22 years. No cap. If longevity was truly the measuring stick for being the NBA GOAT, Kareem Abdul Jabbar would’ve been the GOAT years ago, bruh. Kareem would’ve also been considered the GOAT for being the one-time NBA leading scorer with 38,387 points. He wasn’t though.🤷🏽♂️ Jordan played 3 years of college ball, yet still won 6 NBA championships, won 5 MVPs, won 6 NBA Finals MVPs, won 10 NBA scoring titles, won NBA Defensive Player Of The Year and was a 9-time All NBA First Team Defense selection. What made Jordan so cold was that dude retired TWICE (1993) and (1998) when he was STILL the best player in the NBA. LeBron can’t hold a candle to Jordan.
Jordan is the best med range shooter ever. He sat out the entire 94 season and only played in the last 17 games of the season in 95.
3 peated, retired, came back and 3 peated
@@coreyrees840 that is impressive ngl💯
Love your honest breakdown young man ..yeah he was different lol
To be clear. Michael Jordan was a deadly shooter. Deadly defender, boy he did everything better than most. Many would arguee the best midrange shooter in the league. Lebron is not a good shooter outside 3 feet from the basket. That is a fact. Look for it and youll see. Not hating on you bro, and i like Lebron's game. It is just Michael Jordan was in a league of his own, just making it clear how it really was. There was Michael, then everybody else, Cheers Brother...
Highest vert ever @48", many HOF coaches like Bobby Knight have spoken how he has the biggest hands pound for pound. Highest vert ever @48", many HOF coaches like Bobby Knight have spoken how he has the biggest hands pound for pound. Best mid range shooter ever. I link to an espn article and it deletes the comment. He been in the league that long, and yet MJ did all he did in like 13 seasons when you look at his retirements, and he missed nearly all the games in his second year with a broken foot. Saw a vid where a guy calculated MJ's scoring if he played 8 more seasons to make it 20 seasons, and he did a slow decline, avg decline, and if he declined quickly. MJ would have slightly over 41, xxx points to over 44,xxxx depending on what sim he used. But on the other hand MJ didn't need to play that long to easily be the GOAT.
Jordan's had abnormally large hands too. His hands were either longer or wider than Wilt Chamberlain's.
He could "hang" in the air and release the ball _after_ the apex of his jump. This is something I rarely see
any player do since he retired. And it was something he did all the time. That combined with his speed and
ability to maintain his balance at all times while doing acrobatic moves in the air, made him impossible to guard.
He could also read defenses before they were positioned and reacted to them ahead of time.
It's like he was genetically engineered in a lab to play basketball.
Not a lot is written about it but Jordan abused Ewing. Ewing was a great player and deserved the HOF. Jordan just made him look bad his entire career.
He left for a year and a half. He came back in March of '95
Was never debate😂
Missed a year and a half to baseball... Came back end of 95... Lost to the magic in 95. Then won 3 more chips... 96,97,98
It's okay. You can admit it. There's no shame. Obviously, you want to support your guy. I get it. I agree, Lebron is amazing. One of the best. Just not THE best.
Jordan is the clear goat and I didn’t even watch him play live just do research kids
Yes LeBron leads the NBA in total points just like he leads in turnovers and missed FGs. That’s a part of longevity. He’s 4th in assists but 24th in per game. Stockton is 1st and 2nd in per game. If LeBron had that ratio, he’d have a case for 🐐
Dr. J and Kobe are greater than Bronny Sr.
@@evagelosdrinis7656 idk about dr J come on now
@@POVJAKELive M Jordan #1 The Doc #2
They called MJ "That black cat" because of his cat-like reflexes..
Lebron has great longevity.....but Jordan was all universe on both ends of the court.
Jordan missed almost 2 full yrs.
@@Cornpop-f2l that is impressive that’s a long ass time
He retired went to the MLB for 1yr and a half because he lost his father.
For good reason.
Lebron is a legend, there will never be another like him. But MJ is the GOAT. Someone cue up the Lebron MJ comparison from 2020.
Crazy thing is he got those highlights every single night. He was so good that it became boring to see something spectacular. He really was “the #1 MVP in the world”. He’s not just “the best basketball player ever”. He’s the “best player in any major sport” ever. Lebron is a great player, but he’s honestly not close to being Jordan. Lebron is “A” goat. Jordan is “THE” goat.
Peep "Jordan vs LeBron the best Goat comparison" and "Michael Jordan rare Voyager mixtape"
He left for a whole year then won 3 straight again lol
Accept it Bro .. LeBron is not the Goat
Winning scoring title, mvp, fmvp, chip, defensive 1 team the same season 4 times, thats something Lebron never did!! He can’t even score a bucket against a former 50 year old nba player with handchecking rule. That show how easy it is to build up stats in this soft modern era!!!
Slow? timed at 4.3-4.4 in the 40 he was not only fast but lateral quickness was elite as well
Kobe Bryant better than LeBron
All-round? Yeah, he was.
MJ Missed almost 2 full seasons in his prime to play Baseball after his father was un-alived. Baseball was his father's favorite sport.
Jordan slow 😅 He ran a 4.3 40 . NFL wide receiver speed. 6'6 with 48" vertical
And not the best shooter? He shot better than lebron
Watch the jordan goat stats video..lebron shoots 31 percent outside 3 ft
Try Jordan's top 40 UNC highlights?
Jordan was a great shooter. Hat are you talking about. Also the goat and it’s not really that close
"Jordan couldn't go left." 🤣🤣🤣
Lebron is amazing, a sensational generational player, I can't imagine someone like him would come again. But he's not the GOAT, he is still 2nd best, nobody eclipses Mike.
My Top Three players of alll time are #! Michael Jordan #2 Larry Bird #3 Magic Johnson. MJ was by far the Goat. He was the Best Scorer and best defender. He was the greatest Winner.
Did you see MJ shoot from behind the Backboard and make the shot? Larry Bird made a similar shot.
I have them ranked the same. Throw in Duncan and Kareem and that's my first team.
Ok so you take Prime Kobe, and prime Vince Carter, mix them, then you have Jordan. Jordan was a super skilled assassin with the ball in his hands that had Vince Carter explosiveness. These kids think Anthony Edwards is him, well take Ant and imagine him 5-10 times more skilled. LeBron never even came close, and kobe only came close to the late Jordan who was in his second run that wasn't nearly as explosive.
The closest I ever saw to Jordan aside from Kobe was the late Len Bias. Imagine if he has lived and joined the '80s Celtics. That loss still makes me hurt.
You should watch DangerProductions video of Jordan vs LeBron: The Best Goat Comparison
It's a few years old, but still makes the most valid points.
63 points not 69 sir
jordan vs lebron the best goat comparison by DangerProductions is all you need to see.
He’s gonna need a blanket and some tissues
Check out the goat comparison between MJ and bron.
Theres a reason they call the next big star in other sports the " Michael Jordan " of, whatever sport it may be. Because he was, is and will always be The GOAT
Thanks for taking the time to share your reaction
48” vertical and runs a 4.3 40 yard dash
Jordans stats are way better than LeBron’s. Jordan literally ranks 1st in just about every statistical category during season and the playoffs.
6:05 in and you that look like "Maybe I have to rethink this GOAT thing "🤣
Watch " The Best Goat Comparison".... you'll see the stats.
Check the official speeds and you will find that jordan is not only faster than Lebron coast to coast but also has a much higher vertical. You can look these stats up. MJ is the GOAT, no meltdowns in the finals and if by chance you happen to be one of those young cats who hangs their heads on "But Lebron went to 10 finals!" think about this Magic Johnson went to 9 finals, won 5 and did it in just 13 seasons! That's right 5 chips, 9 appearances in 13, not 4 chips, 10 appearances in 22...just saying 🤔
@@dragonray9450 ok that’s a good case forsure 😮💨
@@POVJAKELive On the real whom ever you have as your GOAT is your decision but base that decision on facts and knowledge and what you "THINK" not on your "FEELINGS" as a man especially a young black man the world don't give a shit about your feelings so rely upon your mind❤ Same advice I have given both my sons and grandsons.
@@POVJAKELivelebron goes to the finals to lose,mj goes there to win,how many 3peats does lebron have?dpoy award?slam dunk award?stl awards?scoring titles?
MJ is the GOAT 🐐 and it's not even close
Now just think, everything you just seen on this vid, that MJ did. Now put in mind he won 10 consecutive scoring titles, 3 steals titles, DPOY award, 5 MVPs, 6 Championships, 6 Finals MVPs, and 2 3peats. And ALL of that in a true 11 1/2 years with Chicago. Now how can someone with the BEST EVER highlights, only undefeated Finals MVP in finals with more than 1 appearance can NOT be the GOAT? All feelings aside, Lebron is BARELY in my top 10. And that’s only because of all these empty seasons he’s playing to run up almost meaningless stats. The longer he plays without a championship the lower he goes on my ALL TIME List. Say Bron plays 25 yrs, and leads in almost EVERY total important stat there is but has 4 championships. Now would someone choose him with 4 championships in 25 years, or Magic with 5 championships in 13 years? And I don’t wanna hear well you’ll only have Magic for 13 years and Lebron for 25. Well what team did Bron play on longer than 7 years? Exactly!!! You’d have Bron for 7 years the most before he abandons ship. THERE’S NO WAY BRON IS AHEAD OF MJ
Iabron don’t suck but for a man to play as long as he have ALL HIS STATS SHOULD BE GREATER THAN JORDAN BUT THERE NOT! There is no way he is even in the same arena as Jordan! Lebron gotta win 9 more scoring titles just to name one thing and there are many!
40 feet 4.38 young man.. mj was never slow at the bulls. Wizards his speed and athleticism was gone, played on one leg… but that’s the time you really saw his skill.
Watch the Voyager vid and his wizards days, then you maybe understand the 90 and why mj is the only goat
4:55 flushed on buddy off pure vert. My guy was different.
Hey Man, Michal Jordan had a 48 Inch Vertical Jump So That Why He Could Stay In The Air So Long and He Had Huge Hands and Longer Fingers !!!! So That Why He Could Palm The Basketball Like He Did !!!!!
@@coolhand96 i believe his hang time was crazy as hell
Watch other videos of Jordan like Jordan vs LeBron debate Jordan has the most accolades in NBA history with 37 but yet u say lebron is the goat and he has the same amount of losses as Jordan 6 chips lebron hasn't won an MVP since he was 28 he's about to be 40 bro lebron fans say he dominated the league how when there has been other players to win the chip on his watch when Jordan finally won his first chip he stayed on top and countless greats were denied a chip lebron is also the all time leader in turnovers and missed shots in NBA history
Dude watch the video 16 straight minutes of facts that will convince you Michael Jordan is Da Goat. This definitely ends any doubt about who is Da GOAT. 😊
It was an honor to watch him play. Saw him a couple times in person. He was an alien the way he played. Every night was an event. Other players feared him and lost sleep the night before. He made the impossible look possible. Gave us something to believe in. The undisputed 🐐.
Lebron AINT THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordan's one of the best shooters ever not sure how people think he can't shoot...you see how he ended his career in Chicago with the shot don't believe everything you hear about Jordan's weaknesses...He had none!
The debate can't be over when there is no debate at all.
His father was murdered as well, but yeah he came back in baseball shape legs were a bit heavy for basketball, helped the bulls finish out the last 17 games of the season were they met Shaq and Penny (Orlando Magic) and got bounced from the eastern playoffs. Trained his body back into basketball shape over the summer and won 3 more chips back to back to back. Oh by the way met that same Magic team and swept they ass. Please educate yourself Jordan is a much better shooter than Lebron is....check your boy's shooting 3ft from the basket...then check Jordan's who's not a good shooter?
I have to say this as an old head who has studied the history of the NBA and i have compiled my all time team. It took me about 18 months to do my research on it and it is about as dominant a team that could ever be put together on an NBA floor.
Starters
PG. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
SG. Michael Jordan
PF. Kobe Bryant
SF. Larry Bird
C. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
2nd Unit
PG. John Stockton
SG. Allen Iverson
PF. Shaquille O'Neal
SF. Bill Russel
C. Wilt Chamberlain
Reserves
G. Reggie Miller
C. Patrick Ewing
F. Karl Malone
G. Dennis Johnson
There are still so many players left off this team bust as you can see it is an OP team that can play in any era and be successful.
Jordan WAS the layup package!!!!!
Respect to all them 80s 90s big men that weren't afraid to get posterized. Todays defense would never, all to scared to play true defense.
Edit MJ is and will always be the GOAT 🐐 🙌🏽
In this era it is so easy to score..90s where pure class and full of hard contact
LeBron is not the goat but he is a NBA legend that deserves credit. Jordan was just in class of his own. When you check out the stats you’ll see Jordan edges LeBron on the stats as well. LeBron has flaws. Jordan by far was a more all around fundamentally sound player on both sides of the ball and I wouldn’t want any other player on my team in a clutch moment than Jordan.