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Are you allowed to park your vehicle on the pavement? Unfortunately there is much more to it than a simple Yes or No!
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I love your videos, but why do *_ALL_* content creators like to create earthquakes in their viewers homes at the end of their videos?!?!
It's like you don't want people to watch more than one of your videos, especially if they live in apartments with neighbors!
It's not just you. Nearly all content creators do this!!!
You missed one: Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
I made the same point. Short of bringing your own mobile crane you have to drive on the pavement to park on it.
@Anthony Stafford In which case the the second part of Rule 145 would apply - "except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency". 'Gain' only means you can cross it, not stop on it
Boo! You beat me to it. 😉🤣🤣🤣
It's not considered "driving" in this circumstance.
Ashley, I love your recordings but this one is a big no, no! For all the people quoting the highway code : It is not a legal document and its rules are not official highway laws. IT IS NOT NOT NOT LAW ! The law is the law! The definition of a road in England and Wales is 'any highway and any other road to which the public has access and includes bridges over which a road passes' ( RTA 1988 sect 192(1)) This INCLUDES THE PAVEMENT ! ANY vehicle on a road causes an obstruction per se ! [even if its moving] If you park on a pavement you commit obstruction, no ifs or buts, its an obstruction and is against the law in England and Wales. If you cannot park your vehicle so as to not allow free passage along a road DON'T PARK, again no ifs and buts or maybe's ITS AGAINST THE REAL LAW not the highway code advice. Go find somewhere else to dump your vehicle
"[if not possible] find a different space and walk". I am constantly amazed by the number of fit, healthy people who are apparently incapable of doing this or even considering it. It's almost as if walking 10 or 20 yards is inconceivable for some people.
By far the worst offenders we see are the primary school run drivers putting other children at risk.
There are too many cars now on UK roads now, and common sense tells you this can’t continue. There will always be people who show little regard for anyone but themselves, who seem to have no awareness of there surroundings when they stop their car. Just wait until the charging leads start crossing the footpaths!
Already happened near me. 2 houses have installed exterior power points next to their front doors and stretch a cable across their postage stamp front garden and the pavement.
@@Crepusculous ffs. I'd just pull them out and throw them onto the garden out the way
@@Crepusculous I'd get some evidence and complain to your Highways Authority via their website under Obstructions.
@@Crepusculous Its only a matter of time before pedestrians start tripping over EV charge cables and then suing for their injuries.
I'm a wheelchair user, and I would love it if a law was brought in to say that you must leave at least 1m of pavement clear for pedestrians/wheelchair users/pushchairs etc. I get that there are some roads where parking partially on the pavement is necessary, but some people definitely take it to extremes!
There already is a law prohibiting blocking the pavement. The problem is getting the local authority or the police to do anything about it.
@@simonmoore8776 A law outright banning it when it when there's such a wide variety of foothpaths, roads, etc isn't the right way to go. If there's a 3+ metre wide footpath then there's nothing actually dangerous with cars using the roadside half of that, when there's no events or whatever on to produce the quantity of pedestrians it was built for. It should be as Kat said, any vehicle partially using the pavement to park should leave at least 1 -1.5 metres (1.5 is what I try to leave when I've done it in the past) at the narrowest point, so wing mirror to lamppost or branch from a hedge, etc, for pedestrians to pass and not force pedestrians to go road-side.
With how bad it is in some places, it won't solve the problem, but it might just bring a few round from ignoring the rules altogether and also make it easier to enforce as it would become 1 in 10 cars needing behaviour correcting vs 1 in 2.
@@markwright3161 IT IS dangerous to park on a footway, even if it's wider than others. 50 people a year are killed when motons drive onto the footway, hundreds injured (UK stats), do you think that's acceptable for the sake of motorists convenience??
@@ynotnilknarf39 Loads of people die in aircraft every year too, that doesn't mean they're not still the safest form of travel or that boarding a plane is a reckless thing to do if you value life. The aircraft either has to crash or they've died of natural causes while on board (more common than you might think).
What are the specific conditions those people die in? I think a lot will be the completely legal form of vehicles crossing them to access driveways, etc, so someone reversing onto the road not looking behind them or in a vehicle with huge blindspots, or people who fly down them like their own private slip lane to bypass traffic on the road, which is obviously extremely dangerous.
If you look out for pedestrians before mounting the footpath, as you should do before driving across them legally, then proceed with caution when any pedestrians are clear of where you want to go, then there's not the slightest bit of danger present, especially when it's stationary in a suitable position between a sufficient space left for pedestrians and the road, like a nearly 2 metre wide barrier.
I've parked on footpaths before, one near a vintage show that had a lot of foot traffic into the town itself (which this section of footpath was linking, the field the show was in and the main street), so a lot of people going back and forth on the path I parked on. I didn't endanger a single person in doing so as I crept onto the path at a dipped portion for a driveway and positioned as far right as possible on the 3+ metre wide footpath so people could walk and even pass each other next to my car well away from the edge of the road. Prams and everything went past, and not 1 of the huge crowds needed to pass on the road, and I was there for a while sitting in the boot of my car filming the vintage vehicles passing on their parade through the town and not 1 pedestrian walked through shot. I wasn't the only car that day. There were probably over 100 cars that drove over or were parked on a footpath that day and yet not a single death or even injury was reported, because everyone drove over or parked on the path at a suitable speed.
It's the same as speed. Simply doing 100+ mph in a car on the public roads isn't dangerous. Doing it in the wrong conditions makes it dangerous. Doing 120 mph down an empty straight motorway in the dry with miles of visibility is perfectly safe when the driver is paying attention and the vehicle is suitably maintained. Doing 30 or even 20 mph down a very crowded road in town on a wet dark evening while tired and in a car that got an advisory in its MoT for excessive brake wear is deadly, yet it's a quarter/sixth of the speed and legal.
A legal driver who doesn't change their driving to suit the conditions will always be more dangerous than a regularly law breaking driver who does change their driving to suit the conditions. A law breaking driver not driving to the conditions is more dangerous, but it's not because they're actions are illegal that make them so. It's them not driving to suit the conditions to a more significant degree.
I could park illegally on a footpath more safely than many legally cross them into driveways, etc. Likewise I could exceed the speed limit, overtake in contravention to road markings and even run red lights perfectly safely in the right conditions, as many emergency response drivers do on a regular basis.
It needs rather more than that, since mobility aids can be up to 1.2m wide, and two can meet going passed a row of parked cars.
The official guidance in Inclusive Mobility says 2.0m, or 1.5m absolute minimum.
The solution is appropriate changes to the law followed by draconian enforcement to break the culture of antisocial parking behaviour having become "acceptable".
Story in Scotland a few months ago where a 90 year old man on a motability scooter had to go into the road cause he couldn't pass a car parked on the pavement but on the way to the road the scooter tipped over and he fell into the road. I'll never get over the laziness of some drivers, unwilling to park somewhere else and walk
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_"I'll never get over the laziness of some drivers, unwilling to park somewhere else and walk"_
I like how you've conveniently ignored the fact that it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for every car in Scotland to park at the roadside. Many households these days have up to three or four cars PER HOUSE now, even if a huge number of house owners have recently converted their front gardens into parking areas. Don't blame drivers for there being utterly inadequate parking on public streets.
Ashley: if you can’t park safely, find a different space and walk.
Drivers: you want me to do what?!
Thanks for highlighting this issue. A lot of comes down to driver entitlement and decades of car dependent policy.
Not all Drivers.
The thing I always reflect upon is this: everyone is a pedestrian sooner or later. As soon as I get out of the car and off of my fat arse, I am become a pedestrian. So I always consider being courteous to pedestrians and to myself...
It is an offence to drive on to a pavement, contrary to s.72 of the Highway Act 1835 and s.34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988).
Rule 145 of the Highway Code states You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency
Regarding the rule 242 "contradiction": the pavement is part of the road, thus an unnecessary obstruction of the pavement is an unnecessary obstruction of the road by definition.
Very true. Black Belt Barrister made that clear in one of his videos
I like the Japanese take on it.
If you want a car. Your proposed parking area will be measured and you can only buy a car that will fit into your space.
The Japanese can be very pragmatic. Part of the test to upgrade to a larger class of motorcycle licence is to prove that you're physically capable of lifting a motorcycle of that weight class back onto the wheels if it's lying on its side.
@@markwright3161 What a strange convoluted chain of thought. Motorcycles end up their sides for much more prosaic, much more everyday reasons than earthquakes. Every motorcyclist has had to pick their bike up sometime or another, it comes with the territory.
@@ianmason. It was a misunderstanding on my part. For some reason the meaning of 'pragmatic' escaped me when replying the first time, and I jumped to assuming you disliked the Japanese's way of doing things. Something about 'The Japanese can be very pragmatic' in response to someone liking their way of doing things made me think you were disagreeing, and I jumped to the first thing different about motorcycle ownership there vs the US or UK or similar where needing to be able to pick up the bike isn't required as part of the test, that would justify that as a test requirement there if you happened to think it wasn't important here (UK for me) where those much more common reasons for picking up your bike are the same.
I think it's perfectly logical to need to be able to pick up that class of bike as part of the test, but for whatever reason I overlooked you describing it as such. I've removed my reply because of that. I have no idea what word I was thinking of in place of 'pragmatic' when I skimmed over your reply the first time.
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With regards to the Highway Code, rule 145 says "You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency." In order to be parking on the pavement one must necessarily have driven on or over it...
What legislation does it actually refer to, what does *that* actually say, and what decided cases have refined interpretation of the terms used therein? The HC on its own is NOT definitive.
You missed one out Ashley, they had to drive on the pavement to actually park.
145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or
bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of
an emergency.
Correct manoeuvre is to not skip leg day and lift your car onto the kerb
Pavement parking is usually a form of bullying. The victims are the weakest in society (the old, children, and the disabled) and the bullies are those able to afford and drive a car.
LOL NOBODY CARED INTHE 50S , 60S, 70S, 80S , 90S , 00S , BUT NOW ITS SUDDENLY A PROBLEM , A PROBLEM THEY CAN TAX
Not nice for the residents perhaps but what about double yellows up one side? We none of us have a right to park on a specific piece of road like outside our house.
I believe that in Tokyo they have laws about not having a car unless you have somewhere off road to park. That would not be popular so no politition is likely to do that.
Speaking as a not young pedestrian with a shopping barrow and a council tax payer, pavement parking should be banned even if it means allocating resident parking areas with the consequence of less houses.
One last thought, is not driving on the footway unlawful? You have to drive there in order to park there. If it is not unlawful then why can't we cycle on the footway? Whats the difference?
Excellent video. Perhaps the best bit for me was one way traffic solutions. I am blind and live in a Victorian terrace. The road is wide enough for people to park fully on the road on both sides (although there is one entitled ignoramus who parks his truck at 45 degrees across the pavement) but the result is that two-way traffic is almost impossible. There are 4 parallel roads in this block so it would be easy to introduce a looped one way system pairing the roads which would be safer for everybody.
The local authority are simply not interested because this is not the wealthy side of town. They are happy to spend taxpayers money in the leafier suburbs where their voters are but don't give a sh!t about the older parts of town. Poliitics and public service have become divorced bedfellows.
When considering converting a block of roads like that into a little set of one way roads, you also have to consider the increase in traffic it may cause. In the worst case you can double the amount of traffic on those roads and add several turns (thus increasing risk) to any journey into or out of the block. My road fits exactly the same description as yours, the local council currently have traffic monitoring strips staked out across all the local roads to evaluate the traffic flows to see if a one-way conversion is feasible.
One way roads also tend to have higher speeds as people know nothing should be coming towards them.
One way streets tend to have higher speed and driver rat run mentality. As a cyclist it’s much nicer having slow traffic behind me.
"... and if this isn't possible find a different space, and walk." Sound advice, and it's something I do, but witnessing the Zoo that is parking near the entrance of my local supermarket, it seems most people would rather trade paint than walk.
Haha, I always park as far away as possible from the supermarket entrance much to the annoyance of my friends and family
Thanks for this one! I can drive but because of where I live I have no need for a car. Therefore I'm a pedestrian for much of the time and some drivers seem determined to park *as close as possible* to the building they wish to visit with no apparent thought for any other road or pavement user. It's very frustrating!
Looking at the bigger picture, it's interesting to note how drivers often get upset at pedestrians crossing the road in front of them (particularly at side streets and even with the new HC changes). And yet, drivers have no qualms about taking up pavement space that's supposed to be reserved for pedestrians. Drivers, you can't have it both ways! And aren't all drivers pedestrians at some point?
but drivers are special and entitled to drive anywhere, at any speed and park anywhere. sarcasm alert
@@tony_w839 Of course Tony! And yes I recognized the sarcasm right away. Are you also a driver btw? (Purely also sarcasm!) 😀
One thing that people seem to forget is that the “road“ that you’re not allowed to obstruct includes the pavement. That’s part of the roadway too. You’re not allowed to obstruct it, by law.
*Obstructing the Highway*
Highway Act (HiA) 1980 §137: “Penalty for wilful obstruction. (1) If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to [F1imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or] a fine [F2or both].” The footway is part of the Highway, so to prevent free flow along the footway is to obstruct the highway.This amounts to a MUST. HiA 333: "No provision of this Act relating to obstruction of or other interference with highways is to be taken to affect any right of a highway authority or other person under any enactment not contained in this Act, or under any rule of law, to remove an obstruction from a highway or otherwise abate a nuisance or other interference with the highway, or to affect the liability of any person under such an enactment or rule to proceedings (whether civil or criminal) in respect of any such obstruction or other interference.".
Common Law nuisance (see, for example _Pratt and Mackenzie’s Law of Highways_ ) applies to _actual_ obstruction, so if you obstruct the footway your vehicle may be towed away.
The law trumps Highway Code (HC) _shoulds_ . Laws are logical unions, so just because one law does not expressly make something an offence does not mean another does not. So, Road Traffic Act 1988 §22 (referred to in HC242) does not give permission to contravene HiA 1980 §137 on obstructing the Highway. Just because London has created a special law making it explicit that footway parking is illegal does not imply it is legal in the rest of the country.
And just because you cannot find somewhere legal to park that you deem (personally consider) suitable does not give permission to obstruct the highway. The comment 1:55 ". . . the pavement is the only place to park without obstructing the carriageway . . ." is wrong - it assumes a right which does not exist in law.
7:50 gives an example where “any vehicle that's not parked on the pavement partially would not leave enough room for any other vehicle to pass on the road.” It is an offence to park on the road as it would obstruct the highway, and it is also an offence to park on the footway as it would obstruct the highway. But, we can see vehicles parked off road in such a way that there is no obstruction to the highway - so the suggestion that the only solution is footway parking is clearly false.
8:02 There is a suggestion that parking on the footway (and obstructing pedestrians) is better than obstructing vehicles. PEDESTRIANS COME FIRST. We are all pedestrians, or assisted pedestrians (e.g. wheelchairs) at some point, and only motorists for short periods of our lives. In any case - both obstructions are equally illegal.
*Driving on the Footway*
It is illegal to drive on the footway (except to access property) as laid down in Highway Act 1835: “LXXII Penalty on Persons committing Nuisances by riding on Footpaths, &c ; by injuring the Road ; by damaging Banks, Causeways, Direction Posts, Milestones, &c. ; by making Fires ; by baiting Bulls ; by laying Timber, &c. ; by running of Filth. “And be it further enacted, That if any Person shall wilfully ride upon any Footpath or Causeway by the Side of any Road made or set apart for the Use or Accommodation of Foot Passengers ; or shall wilfully lead or drive any Horse, Ass, Sheep, Mule, Swine, or Cattle, or Carriage of any Description, or any Truck or Sledge upon any such Footpath or Causeway ; or shall tether any Horse, Ass, Mule, Swine, or Cattle on any Highway, so as to suffer or permit the tethered Animal to be thereon ; or shall cause any Injury or Damage to be done to the said Highway, … “
*Solutions*
There _are_ solutions to this: obey the law, do not drive on the footway, and do not obstruct the footway. If you cannot park close to home then find somewhere else to park, or see how you can change your life to live it without a car.
I am also appalled that at 8:46 AN, a driving instructor, advises on how best to drive illegally on the footway.
"Find a different space and walk" LOL. How many drivers who park on the pavement walk more that 30m. 🙂
Also tradesmen and their vans. I get it that they may have some tools to unload but once that's done why not move the van to a more suitable parking place?
As someone who hates pavement parking, but also tries to do work in a van, that one I can help with. Trade vans are typically absolutely stuffed full of tools and consumables and it's often extremely impractical to attempt to take everything you need onto a site in order to do the work as required.
Now I don't park on the pavement, but I do actively avoid work where I cannot park very close to where I'm working.
If you're working by yourself on a site that has other people on it or is somewhat accessible to the public, tools and materials are also a lot safer in the van then sat in a pile somewhere.
I can very rarely move all of the things I will need onto site in one trip.
@@mowcius I get that and 100% agree but most tradespeople that I've see working won't even park the van 10m away in a suitable space but chose to park right outside the residence where they are working. How much effort is it to walk 20m to get a length of pipe or cable or whatever? I personally think its a little bit of laziness creeping in but then I'm not a tradesman so what do I know. ;-)
I positively cheered my Amazon delivery lass the other week. Parked sensibly in the middle of the street and then walked to and from her van for every delivery on the (approx 100 m long) street. (I was hanging out of the window waiting breathlessly for her to arrive, so I saw her do her whole 'round' on my street.)
At 6:02, the Mondeo Estate parked taking up that much pavement and at an angle like that is unbelievably lazy. I'm not sure if the situation with adjacent cars was different when they arrived to what's in the video but either way, absolutely no excuse to park in such a lazy selfish way.
No excuse, period. If your car is too big to park there, you don't park there. In the US, that sucker would have been towed away within an hour.
As a driver I’m not parking my car on a pavement because I don’t want it damaged. If someone completely blocks the pavement they deserve to have their car keyed same with those assholes that park on dropped kerbs blocking people’s drive
I completely agree, 100%. 👏🏻👏🏻
Be careful doing this or even suggesting it, as it is criminal damage to key a car.
Thanks for clarifying the Scottish situation at the end of this video. I came across a large Merc (of course!) parked almost entirely on the pavement on the opposite side of the road to everyone else, despite there being plenty of space to park normally. My guess is that they wanted to park bang outside the house they were visiting and minimising the distance they had to walk to the front door... 🙄
Playing Devils Advocate for a minute, how do you know they didn't have an elderly passenger with health/severe mobility issues that cannot walk far?
@@CraigNiel To me that's what he said 🙂
Is parking a humble 4ft closer to your destination worth it, when you have to force other disabled and elderley people to walk in the road. There are better solutions to helping those with mobility issues that are less shortsighted than blocking a right of way.
Another idiot judging a person by the car they drive.
@@CraigNiel you can come back and move the vehicle, and heaven forbid you use a fold out wheelchair if you need to park a bit further
As a wheelchair user you can imagine my views on this...
Parking on the pavement is not the same as blocking a pavement.....
Not far from my home people park 50/50 that's fine I can fit....
Till they don't consider the massive telegraph pole also on the pavement (reduced width) ect.
And yes I have been wedged before now because I could fit going into the gap but because the vehicle was not parked straight then you can guess the rest...
So please THINk or WALK that extra 10 feet.
There's a bit of a sheep mentality as well in this country, some roads people just park on the road, whilst others park on the pavement even when the road is like 30 feet wide and if someone does either one, others do the same.
One cannot drive on a pavement unless it is to gain lawful access, a driveway for example, so how does one park on a pavement without illegally driving onto a pavement?
So many people drive over kerbs to access parking on their drives where they have paved over their front gardens. It causes damage long term which comes out of council budgets.
@@chrisgale5634 But at least that is legal while driving on the pavement in order to park on the pavement is illegal.
There is no silver bullet, that would fix the problem immediately, but there are solutions that can be implemented slowly. There are 3 main actions that are all part of the solution
1. Reduce the need for on-street parking. This boils down to couple of different things. Most people, that need a car, should have their own space (on their driveway or garage). This is possible in most suburban and urban settings, but not everywhere. There are reasons why on-street parking is needed, like parking space for visitors, or not having a driveway or parking garage nearby while needing a car for work. But if you have a driveway or garage, keep your cars there. Garages and driveways are for storing cars, not other stuff.
2. More efficient use of space. Could the street be one way street, eliminating the need for passing places? Could you permit parking only on one side of the road? Could you build dedicated passing places, and have rest of the road with parking on 1 or both sides? Would it be better to have 1 unobstructed sidewalk instead of 2 obstructed ones?
3. Reduce the need for car use/ownership. Do you really need 3 cars, or could you get away with 2 or even 1. Offering alternative means of transportation (cycling, public transit etc.) reduces the need for car ownership in general, thus lowering the need for parking. Most people don't own a car, because they like them. Most people will use the most convenient transport option available, and it doesn't matter wether it's a car, bike, bus, train or their own feet. Also, building future developements in a way, where people in general have shorter trips to work, shops, school etc. will also reduce the need for car ownership and parking.
None of these can be done overnight, but they can be done as the roads are resurfaced. Opposition to change should be weak, if the change benefits all parties.
As a personal note, if I know that I need a car for my work or lifestyle, I make sure I have a dedicated space for it either on my driveway or garage. Lucily, where I live, parking on the pavement is illegal, and most people keep cars on their property.
ITS NOT EVEN A PROBLEM BUT THE LIBERAL LEFTISTS WANT IT TO BE
As a wheelchair user I would like say thankyou! It's truly amazing how many will park completely blocking the pavement, or right next to a lamppost so not enough room for me to pass, forcing me into the road, which on busy roads is dangerous for me and frustrating for drivers. Another annoyance is those who insist on parking across the drop kerbs, blocking access to/from pavement.
There's a gym near me with a large public carpark on the opposite side of the road yet the gym users feel entitled to park across the pavement forcing pedestrians to walk into the road, there's even parking restrictions shown and duly ignored. At a guess it's often leg day for the gym queens who are unable to walk far after a good session of running in the mirror...
in the US, there are gyms with escalators for patrons to use to get up the front stairs of the gym to go in and walk on the stair climber machine.
Should be easy hunting grounds then? Maybe leave a note to your authorities that this is a daily gold mine.
@@Asto508 too busy hunting down people who said hurty words or misgendered someone on Twitter.
@@mintywebb why would I need a safe space?
i remember walking down a main road where i live, to find a woman pushing a 'side by side' buggy, stuck by a van which had been lazily parked on the pavement, and it was clear with the van half out in the road there was no way her buggy would fit without also being partly in the oncoming lane so i ended up walking out into oncoming traffic in order to stop the flow in both directions so this poor woman could get her buggy past, there were a few angry honks of the horn and shouted abuse from the drivers aimed at me until they saw what i was doing and even then one idiot on a moped decided to simply overtake everything stationary and blaze past us putting the woman, her kids and myself at risk , but once she was safely past everyone went about their day. but for one moment i held up one of the busiest roads in my city inconveniencing dozens of people, just because some inconsiderate driver had plonked his van on the pavement
Do you have a way to report such incidents to the authorities? In my city, you can actually take a photo with an app, provide a brief description and send it via the app to the respective authority which will then, if you're lucky, take care of it since they are understaffed and cannot be everywhere, but highlighting certain issues makes their work more effective.
It's bad to report any minor irrelevancy, but for cases like yours, whoever parked the van there should be punished tbh.
I tend to regard side-by-side pushchairs as a bit of a liberty as far as other pedestrians are concerned; using a wide pushchair is a demonstration of unrealistic expectations on your average urban pavement, even if it does mean that you are not favouring one child or dog over the other.😉
Ashley you seem to forget to mention the following motoring law: You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency. So if you have parked on a pavement you have broken the law to do so, and driving back off it to go onto the road is also an illegal. If the road is not wide enough for you to be able to park your car legally then you shouldn't park in that road - no argument.
In Japan and several cities in America it is actually illegal to park on any residential street. And especially in Japan, if you don't have a garage, or parking pad, covered driveway off the road you are not even permitted to purchase a vehicle unless you can prove you have someone to store it. People around where I live, not only don't park on the sidewalk, they park 1 to 2 feet away making the road VERY narrow to pass. and no one does anything about it. There is also a law here that you can't leave your vehicle parked for more than 72 hours, and any neighborhood with an HOA will enforce that rule with impunity. Even if the garages built these days are too short to park most vehicles, while claiming its a 2 car garage. Yeah maybe if you owned 2 VW Beetles.
Another thing that motorists should think about when parking in residential areas, is access for emergency services.
7:05 that has happened to me a few times on driving lessons. I get my pupil to pull over and someone parks in their "usual" space, blocking the road. Occasionally people get arsey when we're parked in "their" space too...
After living in the Netherlands, it's obvious to me that there absolutely are solutions to this, but the government can't be bothered. What they do differently is:
1. They redesign roads where the design no longer meets modern standards (e.g. in my area there are a few roads with absurdly wide pavements but no purpose-built street parking).
2. They design streets to avoid conflict as much as reasonably possible (e.g. making streets one--way, as mentioned in the video). Parking on main roads isn't allowed unless there is properly designed parking that doesn't interfere with any other function of the street. Meeting situations are rare which probably reduces the likelihood of damage to parked cars. Every activity/function of streets usually have their own place, so on a typical main road you'd have car lanes, cycle paths, pavements and parking, all separated to reduce conflict, rather than shared-use everything in this country.
3. They enforce parking rules much more strictly.
4. In areas with very limited parking, resident permit systems are used to control the number of parked cars.
5. New housing developments have purpose-built parking. Some areas even have a surplus of parking. In the UK, most new build estates (at least in my area) only have 1 parking space per house, which clearly doesn't work in a car-centric country. There is rarely proper street parking so it shouldn't be surprising that people park all over the place.
5. There are excellent alternatives to driving to avoid car ownership (including car sharing services such as Greenwheels).
Because drivers are used to parking in purpose-built spaces, almost nobody is in the habit of dumping their car wherever they like.
My area (Coventry, Nuneaton and Bedworth) is absolutely full of streets with terraced houses and no actual parking spaces, to the point where it's difficult to find cars to practice parallel parking because they're all dumped on the pavement or verge. There are constant meeting situations everywhere. Even my local test centre doesn't have parking spaces so you have to park on the street, blocking half of it.
My daughter uses a wheelchair to get about and pavement parking is the bane of her life. The other thing that grinds is the number of ablebodied drivers that use disabled parking bays. "I'll only be a minute" in which time the disabled driver has had to park further away in a narrow bay.
My pet peeve is cars parking right next to you in a public car park say a supermarket, after I have intentionally parked miles away from the entrance in an empty car park to avoid door damage, trolly damage etc, only to find a car parked right next to me!
Humans often exhibit basic animal traits - we are a bit like lemmings in this situation and feel safer when with others. It is weird but many drivers will see your car and subconsciously feel you must have found something good in the area you park in, so they will join you.
@@eddieingalls534 Ornothological species of identical plumage congregate in the closest proximity or Birds of.........
This is actually a simple matter - driving on pavements is illegal and therefore parking of vehicles other than motorcycles, cycles, etc. which can be pushed on to them is also illegal. You must go park elsewhere if you cannot park on the carriageway without causing an obstruction.
It may well be true that the only way to park a car without impeding the flow of traffic is to park on the pavement.
HOWEVER it is also true that legitimate pavement users impede the flow of traffic themselves when they are forced to walk slowly in the road by selfish, lazy, inconsiderate and ignorant operators of silly metal boxes-on-wheels. We get aggressively beeped, threatened and yelled at by those drivers who consider we should not be walking on 'their' road - while these same drivers beep, threaten and yell at us if we are using the pavement when they want to drive onto it. Talk about damned if we do and damned if we don't!
In many areas, the pavements are barely wide enough to be used safely by a single pushchair or wheelchair even before a car or other vehicle gets anywhere near it, and surfaces are often appalling trip hazards for anyone with the slightest mobility problem. A stringently-enforced rule (with mandatory, prompt towing!) that a specified minimum width of unobstructed pavement MUST remain if it is to be used for parking would still permit pavement parking in areas where the pavements are genuinely wide enough for it to not be an issue which causes difficulty for others.
I was a driver myself for almost 50 years, so I am not unsympathetic to the parking problems and frustrations faced by many people. However, frustration over parking problems should NEVER be allayed by putting others in danger purely for one's own selfish personal convenience.
It's the sorta thing you don't think too much of until you're ever about with somebody in a wheelchair. Then frankly you just want to dynamite half the cars for how thoughtless and selfish the drivers clearly were ...
It is also worth noting that the construction of the roads and footpaths are different in order to take the weight and stress for the intended traffic.
In general the main carriageway is designed to carry the full weight of Cars and large lorries.
The footpath on the side of the road is not built to the same standard and is only designed to accept the weight of pedestrian traffic.
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So if you ask you local council to put in a drop kerb to allow you to drive onto your driveway they should also dig up the footpath and build it to a stronger design to allow for the extra weight of your car.
This is to stop you crushing the electric cables and gas pipes that are laid under the Footway.
[in effect the Footway is converted into a drive way entrance]
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So when you see cars bumped up onto the Footway they are technically damaging the Footway.
but in most cases the extra weight of the odd car won’t make much difference. It is when you see a large truck or lorry on the footpath that is of a real concern.
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But saying that… [6:10 in this vid you can see a BT manhole]
The manhole covers in footpath are not designed to accept the weight of any vehicle whatsoever, so you if you park with your wheel on one of these you could break it and cause the manhole cover to collapse.
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So if there is a manhole outside where you want to put a new driveway, they will either have to move the manhole to the side or replace the cover with a reinforced type designed to accept the weight of heavy traffic.
With local councils and police forces massively underfunded, it doesn't really matter what's advisory, illegal, dangerous or selfish. With little chance of being caught and penalised, many people seem do whatever they like on the roads these days.
In order to park on a pavement a vehicle is (albeit for a short duration) being driven on a pavement, according to the law this must not be done. So there you go, that's another dilemma.
Australian authorities here in our cities like Sydney have it all sorted out with signs designating where you can't park & where you can, especially in the inner suburbs with narrow streets (usually made one-way with either parking limited to one side, or none at all).
Parking on footpaths is illegal for the reasons you described, & is enforced by police, parking-officers, & council-rangers, providing a good source of revenue from the mugs who choose to flaunt the rules (usually because they're to lazy to walk)!
Part of the problem is that so many drivers think that they MUST park outside their house, and that they have an inalienable right to do so. I frequently can't park on my road, or even within a couple of hundred metres. It's a nuisance, but it is my problem. Making it a problem for pedestrians or fire engines is not the answer. Another problem is that cars are a foot or so wider now than they were 30 years ago, many roads that were wide enough for parking and cars to pass in opposite directions aren't any more as 4ft has been lost to extra metal. And people complain about cyclists taking up space...
I passed my test in 1967 when it was illegal to park on the pavement.
I think it becomes habit for some people who always park with two wheels on the pavement even where there is plenty of width in the carriageway.
You're right because some lorry, van and car drivers seem to do it when they park in a layby. Most seem to park with their wheels up on the kerb for absolutely no reason other than it being just a bad habit they've got in to.
Rule 244 is Shocking wording in my view as the “pavement” is the part of the road we drive on, the part we walk along is a “footway” so how would the law read that if brought to courts 🤷🏻♂️
What you don’t emphasise Ashley is that some people pavement park when they don’t need to.
It is just a thoughtless habit when parking on the pavement is not needed.
Controversial but perhaps we could learn from Japan? There it's basically no parking space = no car. We could have: residents on street parking = 1 car, driveway for 1 car and room for on-street parking = 2 cars, single car driveway on a narrow road = 1 car etc.
I agree, but no party would go for that as it's political harakiri for any party trying to introduce it.
Great idea if public transport is increased to cope...
But to compensate, Japan's public transport is second to none. UK cannot even compare.
I'm glad pavement (footpath) parking is banned (and rare) in Australia.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, whilst parking on the pavement is not illegal in the UK (apart from London), driving on the pavement is (rule 145). I have never yet seen any driver get out of their vehicle and lift it, by hand, from road to pavement, which means that they drove on the pavement to get it there.
My son is in an electric wheelchair pavement parking is a nightmare we can be walking to the park and we need to cross using zebra crossing’s, but unfortunately due to pavement parking this makes it extremely difficult. There’s not enough dropped kerbs so we can safely get around these vehicles, and with his chair being slow due to him being 2 that increases the danger because we are in the road longer.
I’ve also reported this problem to the council and police but it’s fallen on deaf ears, I genuinely don’t know what to do?
Well, you can go full vigilante and let your son accidentally bump the cars when nobody is watching, some of them might learn in the process. If your local police doesn't care, they won't care about that either probably.
@@Asto508he’s already good at that he crashed into my bmw the other day and instead of going backwards he kept it forwards wheel spinning against it 😂
It's rather a pain when I'm out running to have people pavement park. The 'door zone' still applies so it breaks your tempo to have people park inconsiderately.
Oh dear.
@@keithcolman9868 they're rarely a problem, even in woodland runs.
@CycleCam doesn't quite compare to disabled issues does it. You have plenty of alternatives.
@@keithcolman9868 did I make any comparison?
@@keithcolman9868It’s very rare for a person with a disability to park on the pavement as they are one of the cohorts most at risk from such behaviour. Regardless of that a Blue Badge doesn’t give you the right to park wherever you please either, despite how it may appear. This doesn’t apply to those who have disabled their ability to think of anyone other than themselves of course.
I can safely say I would not want to be a wheelchair used in today's day and age. I cannot imagine the difficulties they must sometimes face simply for wanting to have a wander in their local area.
'I would not want to be a wheelchair' 😅
Thank you
Rule 145: "You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency." would make pavement parking implicitly illegal, surely? To park on the pavement you have to drive on the pavement, and this is a MUST NOT rule.
Apart from obstruction, damage to pavements and driving on the pavement, there's nothing wrong with anti-social parking. Every argument for parking on the pavement has a argument for not parking on the pavement. In general, pavement parking is done by idiots with no idea of the problems it causes.
I use a mobility scooter and face this on a daily basis. Especially from shop owners who park their cars fully on the pavement. I have begun to take photos and send in to parking officers. I will continue to do so as it is totally unsafe for me to drive on pavement. So if your parking on a pavement leave room for us disabled people and people with prams.
Are you in London or one of the other places where the local authority can enforce - and do they, or have you had success in getting enforcement done by the police?
I'm currently trying to find out if I can get enforcement on this locally by supplying video evidence to the County Council where I see outrageous cases, but I've still got to work out the process, and whether they will be willing. It is I think outside the scope of the police Operation SNAP.
@@mattwardman I am in Oldham
@@ronmac9522 Do they enforce when you complain? I hope so.
There may be potential (I don't know anyone who has tried) for using the Equality Act 2010 for this, as the local Council provided pavement is a 'service' and they have a duty in law not to discriminate, but also a pro-active duty to promote equality.
Various people and groups have been successful in removing anti-wheelchair barriers from trails and public footpaths, and I don't see why it could not be applied to the requirement for unobstructed pavements.
Typically on a public footpath something is identified as a barrier to 'stop motorbikes', which in practice do not stop motprbikes, but *do* stop mobility scooters and so on.
Now when designing paths the "design vehicle" (ie what should fit) is 2.3m long by 1.2m wide, and the worst barrier should be bollards with a spacing of 1.5m.
When my 2 kids were in pushchairs, if a car was so far over the pavement I had to go in the road, if I could still squeeze down but scratched the car then tough. Pavements are for pedestrians 99% of the time. If was walking in the road I would shouted at by drivers. So tough. I'm not putting my kids at risk by having to walking in the road. Dont mind parking on the pavement but make sure there is room for everyone!
Unfortunately, there are far more cars than cities can cope with. So the only solution, that could help with the situation a little bit, is developing and incentivising public transport to remove the need for people to own a car. However, as far as I'm aware, public transport is pretty decent in the UK anyway. So the residential roads are probably going to be filled with cars forever.
Transport in the Uk is far from "decent"! It may be excellent in London and the bigger cities but, for the rest of us, one bus a day doesn't cut it.
Public transport is decent?
A quick check on Google Maps shows that I could drive to my nearest city, Cambridge, in 33 minutes.
The same journey by public transport takes 1h 22m. But because today is Sunday, the earliest it will get me there is 07:33 tomorrow.
It's quicker to cycle, with a journey time of 1h 12m. That increases to 1h 36m if I only use safer cycle routes (which, coincidentally, follow the same route as public transport and take only 14 minutes longer).
@@weevilinabox I'll be honest, my comment about the quality of transport wasn't really backed by any knowledge or prior experience, I was just assuming. Thank you for the heads up. In that case my comment stands, that it is necessary to develop public transport and give people options for travel. And it will help with much more than just street parking, but I don't think I need to be telling you that.
As it turns out, the UK is quite car centric. Would that be true? Not quite as much as some places, but still.
There are far too many selfish drivers on the road that only care about their own convenience and couldn't care less how it impacts anyone else.
In the US, there are sometimes residential roads that are narrow, and we usually ban parking on one side of the street. This allows traffic to flow and still allow adequate parking. Of course, we never allow parking up on the pavement/sidewalk or parking against the flow of traffic.
There is no "both sides". If you block sidewalks and crosswalks, expect car damage, and if you don't have a parking space, you don't have the right to own a car. Incidental damage for parking violators should be legalized, too. The person who painted cars in Manchester is a hero for getting the point across. If fogduckers don't want pedestrians walking on the road, stop parking on sidewalks.
1:55 - Japan has it right: If you don't have legal personal parking space, you're not legally allowed to own a car. If I can't walk down a sidewalk without my metal cane contacting their side panels, that's their problem for parking illegally.
4:20 - If you can't afford damage to your car, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO OWN A CAR. Sell it.
6:08 - That pinhead deserves a new paint job.
A lot of people don't care, Councils and police can't be bothered. It's only gonna get worse.
In some cases I've heard of councils buying part of the front gardens of houses in order to widen the road/pavement (lots of front gardens are just ugly patios that need cleaning and are used for nothing) Another solution I've seen is to reduce a road to a single pavement on one side so that houses on the other side exit by crossing (usually works best in low traffic volume roads)
An example of both is here (52°30'19.5"N 3°58'43.1"W) where as you can see one side of the road is missing their pavement and the other is missing most of their front garden. With this sacrifice the road is wide enough to accommodate two lanes and further along even two directional traffic with street parking (non-hgv).
I live in a cul-de-sac which has a very narrow road and there’s a couple of large Mercedes works Sprinter vans, that park on the pavement. They’re a bloody nuisance 🤬
Where do you want them to park if it’s a narrow road?
@@n4ht4n80 In a different street is the obvious answer.
@@David_D. ridiculous
@@n4ht4n80 What is?
@@n4ht4n80 Many years ago I lived in a street in London where parking was so bad I often had to park one or two streets away. So why can't people do that now?
I have a theory that pavement parking started with cars getting alloy wheels and low profile tyres. Before you could rub the tyres on the kerb when parking without problems, but alloys get ground up if you misjudge it. So people started putting two wheels on the pavement to save their alloys. Over the years I have noticed they park further and further on to the pavement to protect their cars from passing traffic. It's now so bad near me that cyclists are having to go back on the road because they can't get through on the pavement any more!
The irony of this is that so many drive up the kerb too fast and knock their tracking out of alignment or (worse), or even distort their alloy wheel!
I'd like to see a nationwide ban on (unauthorised) pavement parking, but it'll never happen because it would lose elections.
Unless the pavement is signed as both pedestrian and cycleway the cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement anyway so the cars parked on the pavement are only forcing them to go where they should be
On the other hand that probably also means that pedestrians are also having to walk in the road to get past the inconsiderately parked car which could be very dangerous if a car coming down the road doesn't see them in time to react safely.
But cyclists (over the age of 10) aren't allowed to ride on the pavement anyway
Cyclists are not meant to ride on the pavement.
What, about rule Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.?
Pavement parking is lazy, thoughtless, inconsiderate, entitled and selfish. People who say they ‘have’ to park on the pavement will say it’s because there’s no room. Exactly, so park somewhere else and if there’s ‘nowhere to park’, which isn’t true but let’s go with it, then you probably shouldn’t have a car. I’d like a 100ft yacht but I’ve nowhere to keep it so I haven’t got one. The sooner this is made illegal and enthusiastically enforced the better.
Taxes on multiple cars per household. Take away parking spaces for bike lanes. Make the infrastructure good enough so that people can get around quickly, safely, and comfortably not in a car.
Pavement parking should be banned nationwide
Glad you brought this up, I was walking home from work just before Christmas and a delivery driver down the road decided the best place he could park his Transit van was right on the path blocking it completely, so when I got to the van I shouted him over and politely asked him to move it, to which he replied "I'll only be 5 minutes" I wasn't going to wait so I told him to move it or I'll be walking over it. Not impressed with what I said he responded with "walk over it and I'll knock you out" but as soon as I heard walk over it I got straight to it, jumping onto his bonnet and then casually walked over his roof.. I could have walked around it sure, but why should I have to walk into a busy road because some selfish idiot??
That’s just petty
@@WarrenF He could have parked semi on the path and not on it completely, allowing people to get past without having to walk into a busy road.. The person he was delivering to obviously wasn't going anywhere so why should I have to wait for him to move in 5 mins?? ..As it was stated in the video drivers SHOULD NOT park on the pavement and I gave him the opportunity to move it before climbing/walking over it, but drivers seem to think their entitled to way more than they actually are so it's a lesson learn for him, you can call it what you want ^^
Use your common sense for pete’s sake
@@TheMusicianTom yeah be nice if drivers did that wouldn't it..
The obvious solution to the road at 7:49 is to ban private vehicle parking and make it one way. It is clear the road can not accommodate parked vehicles.
I remember me and my auntie who uses a walker nearly got ran over on the pavement cause a woman wanted to park right outside the tan shop and they put up poles to stop people from doing that, so she just tried to drive right into us like we were in the wrong.
"Find a different space, and walk". Fantastic advice, and would also help the obesity problem in the UK. There's a community centre on my road, and needless to say, people attending various groups & events all park as close as possible, even if that means double parking, on the pavement, parking right on the corner and blocking residents' driveways; I've had to contact them a few times to get someone to move their car. One of the nights they host is for a weight watchers type group... ;)
We quickly went from not having private transportation to having it become a big nuisance after the car was made popular and affordable.
Lease by the hour is the future of driving.
Thus, getting rid of the need to have a vehicle standing around parked up on pavements for days on end.
Ash , If the road is like you say with one parked 2 wheels on the pavement , otherside cars in the curb , the road NEEDS to be made ONE way ! I have the same where I live ..
@6:00 The space left on the pavement was about 1500mm, which coincidentally is the minimum distance prescribed for two wheelchairs to pass and is the footpath width required from disabled parking up to the entry point in a building so that I would say that most cars parked reasonably but the black car did not.
Parking on the pavement is in most cases a pragmatic solution although sometimes prohibited by law. The law unfortunately cannot account for all circumstances so in many cases it is counter productive. Many Victorian terraced streets barely have enough room to allow a car to pass between two rows of parked cars even on one way streets. the pavement widths can be only up to 1.5m wide that is technically insufficient for two passing wheelchairs but a constricted pavement can still work with a little inconvenience to the pedestrians if cars are allowed to park on the pavement. Pavement parking must be controlled to prevent abuse so that as on the continent a white line on the pavement defines the allowable parking zone and woe betide anyone parking over it. Keeping streets open for the emergency services is vital an since it is unlikely that they will use smaller vehicles for specific locations then their movement must be accounted for. We also need to accept that unless we ban car ownership in some areas parking cars is always going to need to be catered for. Pedestrians, cars, emergency vehicles and delivery trucks all have to be accommodated and within the physical constraints a compromise has to be reached with the least problem for all those users. One radical option could be that properties on affected streets could be demolished and carking courts could be created for residents and visitors cars.
Where I live, the house opposite mine is owned by a professional football club and new signings live there until they're settled in the area. One of them often parks on the pavement outside my front door and I would regularly get notes from an unknown neighbor asking me to move the car (which wasn't mine anyway as I already have a driveway) but at first I'd ignore them...until my partner arrived home from work and the neighbor confronted her, demanding she move the car, refusing to listen to reason when he was told it wasn't ours.
Now we know who this person is, we realised the only reason he was angry that the car was on the pavement was because he couldn't park on the pavement on the opposite side of the road, meaning he had to walk an extra 15m to his house 🤦♂
Usually, the people that get angry like that about other people parking badly are the same people that are parking badly themselves. If two of those meet, then you have an epic shouting battle on the street.
While the act itself of parking on the pavement may not, in most cases, be illegal, the act of what is required in order to be able to park on the pavement is, in fact, illegal:
Highway Act 1835, Section 72, Rule 145, 1988: "You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency."
Where is the mention of the Public Rights of Way Act? It is illegal to block a right of way. Centuries old legislation. A pavement qualifies as a Public Right of Way because for years no one has closed the path and challenged everyone using the pavement. Once the period without a challenge exceeds a year and a day, the path is a Right of Way and MUST NOT BE OBSTRUCTED.
Ban pavement parking everywhere...
I never understand why this rule was not rolled out to the rest of the country.
I don’t think it’s that simple. 15 min cities and 2030 agenda suggest too many cars too much population
Well that ain’t going to work 😂
While I generally agree that it should be banned, as shown in the video (7:50), it's too late in residential streets where the roadways are too narrow to park on the road.
@@johnforrest695 Because many households two cars but only have space for one on a drive or no drive at all and are on roads unsuitable for parking. In this day and age those houses would become worthless.
It’s not become a problem because people are worse it’s become a problem because we’re stuck with roads and housing that were built when people expected the average number of cars per household was going to be less than 1.
7:50 - I live in an area that's even narrower than this and all of the surrounding streets are the same. Good to see someone acknowledge that in some cases it's genuinely impossible not to park on the pavement.
Occasionally people visiting the area cause utter chaos by parking "legally" and blocking the entire street.
The important & very good point (for me) that you make is "some cases", I think an honest analysis of the majority of pavement parking would consider in most cases that it isn't. As an example, the principal road near me is a bus route, its wide enough to allow two buses pass in opposite directions even if folks don't drive onto the pavement and leave their car's there - but they do. The result, not in all cases but in many, is a narrowing of the pavement and impeding effective use by wheelchair users & folks pushing buggies, its just a bad habit and inconsiderate.
My 8 year old daughter was biking with me on a shared pavement. The road next to it had 3 lanes and a car decided to park on the shared pavement, despite the 2 lanes going in the direction the car was facing. God forbid road users get the slightest bit inconvenienced (narrator: they wouldn't have been). My daughter crashed right next to their car. I didn't see exactly how she came off so I couldn't specifically blame their parking, but I did suggest to the parked cars owners, who happened to be nearby, that perhaps next time they could park the car fully on the road where they wouldn't obstruct pedestrians and cyclists. Bizarrely, I got both barrels from them whilst I was getting my daughter sorted and back on her bike. People are just going to be selfish, I guess... even when shown the quite traumatic outcome of their actions
You gave a solution at the end - find another space. I'd like to suggest another - if it is an area you need to get to regularly and there is no place to park reasonably, then you should not drive there.
I'll get started building that teleporter everyone keeps talking about. 😂
It should be that you are allowed only if you leave enough room for a double buggy and as you say many streets being made one way would help as would clear markings. Then theres hgvs they do alot of damage to the pavement but need to deliver goods or get into somewhere tight. No easy solution and a complete bad isn't the answer for many areas.
If a vehicle is parked across most of the pavement, I'm not walking into oncoming traffic to avoid it. If your wing mirror is in the way, it's getting knocked in so that I can pass.
Nah this is getting embarrassing now lol. Do you literally comment on every car related video??? You obviously just hate anybody who owns a car. What a sad little man you are Glenn
Another externality of a market system. There is no solution. It's a case of not having a system that requires people to travel so far for work, or need private car ownership. You have people working in town A coming from town B and people in town B coming to work in town A. It's all wasteful & pretty meaningless but it generates a positive financial benefit to some people so...great.
There is another Highway Code rule which is surely relevant, and it's a "must" rule. That is Rule 145 which explicitly states that you must not drive on a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to a property (which means via an authorised route, almost always a dropped kerb which creates a right of way for vehicles). If somebody can tell me how you can park on the pavement without driving on it, then please let me know as, from reading the rules, you would be breaking the law by manoeuvring onto the pavement in the first place (I'm assuming that not many people travel round with their own portable crane to position the car onto the pavement that way).
Rule 145
You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34
nb. you have to admire the sheer audacity and cheek of the guy @4:08 that expresses his annoyance at the man on the mobility scooter who passes, what is almost certainly his car, on the road so he has to wait. It was that car which forced the man into the road in the first place.
I think if you wanted to apply the law in such an absolute fashion (rare here), you'd have to start by proving that the vehicle was driven on the pavement and by whom. That's a lot harder than just assuming it was driven there because it's there.
Obviously the law is not enforced in such an absolute fashion. Driving along the pavement would be prosecuted under that law, mounting the kerb to park in a place where that is permitted is not.
The guy who parks opposite Ashley in the video is pushing his luck with it in my opinion. He mounts the kerb too early and continues driving on the pavement much longer than was necessary just to park. I thought he would stop, but he just kept driving forward on the pavement until he was opposite Ashley.
I noticed that guy who blocked the mobility scooter and wondered what he was getting annoyed about too. I think he still dosn't realise the obstruction of the pavement he caused even when he sees the consequences right in front of him!
Parking half on the path actually increases the risk of damage, because it provides just about enough space for two vehicles to squeeze through.
It does seem an intractable problem. Too many people, too many cars, not enough space.
The thing is, they _don't_ actually contradict one another. Unless you're in a marked bay with your name on it, a residential permit, or a disabled badge, you have no legal right to park in front of your own property except for on your own driveway (which is your property and you can do what you like with). One can park on the road in a way that doesn't block the road _and_ the pavement, it just means you have to not be selfish by choosing convenience over allowing people to use the road and pavement without you blocking them.
I can understand one's desire to have their car within sight of their house in case it gets nicked, but that's why you have a dashcam and a GPS tracker if you're so worried about theft. No? Sell your nice car and by a cheap to replace one that nobody's gonna want to try and steal that you don't mind being parked where you can't see it. There's plenty of options for you that don't involve you blocking the road and/or pavement with your parking.
It seems my biggest gripes with driving standards is just selfish behaviour.
I've seen selfish thoughtless parking block bus routes, it happens on a specific street every single day from parents parking near a school preventing a bus from driving down a narrow pedestrian street. This bus is paid for by the local authority to help elderly people get around instead of forcing them to walk 15 minutes to the main road through the area for that bus, and it regularly can't serve its route properly because of cars parked too close together. It also happens on numerous other streets and is usually a problem when people are off work, so on Saturdays and after about 4:30pm. The owners of these cars stare incredulously out their living room windows at the bus clearly blocked by _their_ cars with the "what do you expect _me_ to do" expression on their face. I'm sure if this was someone else's car and this was the fire brigade coming to rescue their loved ones from their burning house they'd be banging on everybody door screaming at everyone until they find the owner of the car to shift it. If you block the bus, you block the fire engine and most likely the ambulance too.
There is a solution that has been used in Christchurch, that is to mark the limit of the parking space on the footpath, ensuring that so long as the vehicle is not parked beyond the marking sufficient space is retained for pedestrian traffic, while maximising the road width for moving traffic. I do like the idea of one-waying narrow residential street, that also helps reduce the traffic using this type of road as a rabbit run.
London streets where pavement parking is officially signposted usually (not not always) have white lines on the pavement to mark the limit of the permissible parking area.
I do think motorists choosing cars that are wider over the years has made this problem worse.
Unfortunately there aren't any narrow cars anymore. That is because a) thicker doors allow for better side-impact protection, and b) there are too many fat folk these days who couldn't get into a five foot-wide 1960s Ford Anglia or Morris 1100.
@@davidjones332 there are micro cars, which are more common in the netherlands
@@davidjones332 we are on the Wall-e timeline
Or is that the manufacturers doing that
It's the manufacturers making wider cars, not people choosing them - take Ashley's Golf as an example, the MK1 Golf launched in 1976 looks smaller than VWs entry point which is the UP.
This ought to be nationwide. No parking on pavements
Don''t block the pavement for my wheelchair, and don't block the road for my special access bus.
It’s amazing how the UK is so permissive in this regard. Also, the explicit exception for London feels weird. Anyway, I come from a country where we similarly use the pavement as parking, but where people abusing, as bad or even worse than the examples in the video, have led to legislation totally banning the practice. Even though not fully enforced, it gets worse by the day, and authorities keep “clearing up” the areas and forcing people to park on the street, raising congestion, or just move their cars altogether elsewhere. It causes a lot of problems for drivers, but similarly did so all the offenders from past days that ignored everyone else and blocked entire sidewalks or even zebra crossings some times. So, what I am saying is, do not abuse this “power”, because that starts a fire that burns slowly, but one day it will explode and will hit everyone driving just because of a few a*holes that go by unsanctioned by the public opinion, because we get lost in how we interpret a textbook.
Yes I concur. Fold your mirrors in. Not only is it good manners, but it also serves as a visual cue to would-be car-robbers that your car has been locked.
For me, it is context of the traffic flow, time of day and what sort of area it is. Industrial areas aren't often going to have visually-impaired people walking around, but a major high street? Absolutely.
I think your final words sum it up. If you can’t park without entirely blocking the pavement or carriageway, park somewhere else and walk. It really is just common sense. Some people think they are entitled to park their car wherever they want and they don’t think of the implications. Drivers and pedestrians must learn to share the space. Sometimes it may be necessary for a driver to park partially on the pavement (as demonstrated with the narrow road dilemma in the video), just as it is sometimes necessary for a pedestrian to walk on the carriageway (where there is no pavement). Drivers are pedestrians too sometimes and vice versa so I don’t see the need to be territorial over the space. Just use your common sense.