I just met my background investigator also. He came to my house unannounced when I was at work. My wife was home and they started talking to her and asking her questions about me. I'm in the process of now getting a call from the chief and I think will be doing the polygraph test real soon
I went through the background investigation once with my local police department and it’s definitely nerve racking. You’re on edge every day because you don’t know what your references or past employers are saying about you. At our department, they ask you for past landlord’s information, five references, supervisors from your last two or three jobs, your current supervisor’s information, and they look into your financial history, including student loans you’ve taken out. They also do a home visit. Our CVSA is actually taken before they conduct a background check.
I'm currently in the background investigation phase and they just finished calling all my references. Home visit is next. I'm excited and nervous at the same time!
In Oregon i don't have to worry about Polly the department that I'm going through the hiring process said polly is illegal here in Oregon and they just do the background investigation and directly after it's chief interview then final step psych and medical test then bam swearing in!!!! Which I'm praying i get to that moment 🙏🙏🙏
Nothing is perfect in this life. Nobody can suggest the hiring process is too. Recognize the obstacles, put on a professional demeanor, and work your way through the problems. There's a mindset that if you can't take a little stress during a background investigation, you won't be able to handle LE duties later. Everyone there is fighting to get this job. Don't give up. I remember my investigator asking me what type of car I drove. I answered. Upon leaving police HQ 20 minutes later, I saw an unmarked car following me from the building. I believe that was him evaluating my driving. Imagine if I had empty beer cans in there. They carefully looked at our cars during the police academy too. Make sure you're registered and inspected. Don't give them anything to concentrate on you.
I hit a wall during my background investigation and never found out why. I thought I was the perfect candidate. I enlisted in the military right after high school, attended college while I served. Got the standard Honorable Discharge. Had one ticket in my whole life. No drugs. Great referrals and evals. Lived on my own and was making lots of money on corrections. There were acts of animus with my investigator. I drove 55 miles to an appointment, and he took that day off. He searched my apartment when nobody was home. Somebody whispered that he didn't like me. I kept my mouth shut and just waited him out until appointed. I saw him at a retirement function months before he passed, and I was a captain. He gave me the customary salute as a respectful gesture. We didn't speak much, but I forgave everything. If there's an obstacle, recognize it, go around it, and make it work for you.
We had an applicant who had driven a school bus. Upon quitting the bus company to begin the police academy, he reported the bus stolen. He drove that bus to the academy on his first day, Goodbye!
What if you’re in the car business? The turn over is so high, you get a new gm and they clean house. It’s the norm in that world. It’s a revolving door at a dealership.
I have no criminal record whatsoever, never been reprimanded by a boss. I stole some snacks from target when I was like 14 or 15 like once or twice. My biggest possible downfall is that I was a daily weed smoker as a teenager. Now I really want to become a cop but I’m worried by how much this may hold me back. Id appreciate if anyone can share their own experiences if they found their background similar to mine!
what if you have medical stuff that got sent to collections and your trying to to solve it with your insurance and the collection company so that it’s paid and one of them is workman’s comp that refused to pay the bill?
So moral of the story is just tell the truth just like how you should either as a citizen or a police officer telling the truth goes a long ways then to try to lie
I have good credit actually maybe the best for my age I’m 21 and I have 100% payments on time and no collections. I have good work history and the job I am right now been there for almost going for 3 years and never touched drugs or even weed. The most is three tint tickets and a speeding ticket but that was when I was 18 and young and stupid! The only thing I’m worried that highway patrol might disqualify me is for doing side jobs and not reporting them since I have my regular job and the side jobs don’t pass 200 so a business man told me it wasn’t necessary what do you think?
All of my substance use was while i was a teenager, its been a decade+ since. When i realized the mistake of that lifestyle i abruptly enrolled in school out of state and have never been back since. Is that a good enough explanation for my past discrepancies?
@@bucketstuck7137 mostly it was just the crowd I hung out with. I smoked weed pretty regularly and tried some other things but that's about it. Was far more intrigued by alcohol, musta been the Irish in me
Hello Frank, I have a traffic ticket that was sent to collection that I was never made aware of. It doesn’t show up anywhere at all on my credit history. I am not sure if it will show up in the future, but it was supposedly sent a year or two ago. I said yes in my questionnaire in regard to if I have ever bent sent to collection. Will that be a hurdle or was it unnecessary for me to say yes since it’s not on my credit?
Also have a question currently going through the process right now. My credit isnt the best. Alot of my debt is hospital bills thats in collections. I had a very hard time trying to pay them do to health issues such as my heart and doctor's had a hard time trying to figure out what was wrong with it. And so my bills kept stacking and stacking and me not asking family for help or anything cause i hate taking or asking for money. Finally they figured out what was wrong and had heart surgery and now currently trying to pay off some of my debt would that still be a disqualifying factor?
Cause it wasn't that I'm bad with money it was more of constantly having heart issues at the time and no one could figure it out until they finally did after 3 years and several different heart doctor's
I'm living in a house with housemates, and I'm currently on bad terms with one of them. I'm worried that they might start speaking negatively about me. Should I wait until this person moves out before applying for law enforcement in this situation?
I’m here to try to gain some insight as to how long is it before you typically hear back from someone regarding your background investigation? I did my agility test and reading and Writing test on 06/25/24. Haven’t heard back from anyone at the PD I’m trying to get on with
@@armogantraining7164 Ok thanks today makes the 3rd week since the agility test and Written Exam. I was starting to feel a little nervous and discouraged.
Hi I recently had my background interview. When I applied I had a clean record since the process take months. I got a case . The investigator said he believes I was telling the truth he said he just don’t know about pending charges. Although this wasn’t my intent and I haven’t been convicted. Some ppl say I should withdraw some say stay what would you advise me ?
I did my back ground today I forgot some things but then in the interview he reminded me because I interviewed before and he reminded me what I said last time and I immediately told him he was was right and explained to him what happen and told the truth! And some things I remembered in my past that I didn’t put in my packet cause I just simple forgot cause it was so long ago but I told him over the phone everything that I needed up remembering! Do you think that is going to have a big negative impact for me! I feel like I did absolutely terrible but i know I was honest and at the end he opened up my portal so I can put in my high school transcript and my driving record and told me what happens next?
The only thing I’m really worried about is that I have good credit but I owe on a car loan and I had to take out another to replace to my car engine I have 100% payment on time payment history and I was let go from a job when I was 18 because of texting on my phone after that happened I’ve never had those issues I am now 27
If i was honest on my polygraph and failed or was inconclusive does that mean im DQ? Im waiting on the call to see if im making to the background phase
Hey I am assuming you’re a American Law enforcement based trainer? But do you also help for Canadian (municipalities or federal law enforcement) exams, interview. Background and poly. Please let me know. Much love from Winnipeg, MB, Canada
We mostly handle US law enforcement however I have done training and candidate prep for a few Canadian departments RCMPD and a few Ontario departments.
So I haven’t work about almost 4 years, I am at home taking care of my three children. I take my two kids to school and picked them up. Meanwhile I stay at home with the baby, it that going to look bad on my application?
The only drug I’ve ever done is marijuana over 50-100+ times.. would that automatically disqualify me.. Even if I’m honest. I stopped when I decided pursuing the PD was something I wanted to do. I can pass a current drug test and open to future random tests.. I have a cj degree, good experience.. coached for 7 years, worked in a school district the last 2 years.
First time smoking was maybe junior year of college.. slowed down when I had my son after college.. moved to Michigan and began smoking again at night while working as a dean at a school ( legal in Michigan) now decided I wanted to attempt to use my degree
It's not too late at all, but it does sound as if you're getting in. your own way a bit here. Jump on a free coaching call and we can discuss how to move forward and achieve this dream for you.calendly.com/candidate-coaching-steve/30min
@armogantraining7164 I have very good credit over 750+ been a home owner for 9 years and always pay my bills on time. Except one time i failed to finish paying off a debt of about $200 I called the place and they told me Not to worry about it.
Good Morning! Great video. The agency I applied for does their process in the following sequence. Sorry for the long question. Application Written exam If you pass then they will email You a PH PACKET Orientation - Turn in PHI They will look over your PHI and if you pass they will assign you a BI Your BI will then open your case and let you know if you pass onto a background investigation interview. Which is where I am at. What will that consist of. How is this different from the phases above?
While it would not be the majority, this is not an abnormal process, I have seen it this way multiple time. The agencies have discretion sometimes to how they conduct there process. Congrats so far. But understand that the background is never done until you start.
Hey Armogan, I did LSD four years ago, I was 21, as well as mushrooms at roughly the same time. As well as using marijauna habitually for the last 10 years. I quit marijauna in January. I havent touched the LSD for four years, the mushrooms for four years. Do you think I have a chance?
My recruitment officer said that they have a 2 year guideline on any illegal drug that isn't marijauna(lsd, mushrooms), then they arent considered during the application process. But when it comes to the BI, it'll look bad, correct?
Im currently in backgrounds I will meet with the investigator this Sunday at my house wish me luck guys .
Ayyy nice. Just did mine today. Good luck.
Good luck you got this.
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Why is it at your house lol
I just met my background investigator also. He came to my house unannounced when I was at work. My wife was home and they started talking to her and asking her questions about me. I'm in the process of now getting a call from the chief and I think will be doing the polygraph test real soon
I went through the background investigation once with my local police department and it’s definitely nerve racking. You’re on edge every day because you don’t know what your references or past employers are saying about you.
At our department, they ask you for past landlord’s information, five references, supervisors from your last two or three jobs, your current supervisor’s information, and they look into your financial history, including student loans you’ve taken out. They also do a home visit. Our CVSA is actually taken before they conduct a background check.
That's sounds pretty standard.
I'm currently in the background investigation phase and they just finished calling all my references. Home visit is next. I'm excited and nervous at the same time!
Nice job so far
Hey how'd it go
In Oregon i don't have to worry about Polly the department that I'm going through the hiring process said polly is illegal here in Oregon and they just do the background investigation and directly after it's chief interview then final step psych and medical test then bam swearing in!!!! Which I'm praying i get to that moment 🙏🙏🙏
Don't get over confident and think it move that fast, a lot of hurdles can always get in the way. But good luck you got this!
Nothing is perfect in this life. Nobody can suggest the hiring process is too. Recognize the obstacles, put on a professional demeanor, and work your way through the problems. There's a mindset that if you can't take a little stress during a background investigation, you won't be able to handle LE duties later. Everyone there is fighting to get this job. Don't give up. I remember my investigator asking me what type of car I drove. I answered. Upon leaving police HQ 20 minutes later, I saw an unmarked car following me from the building. I believe that was him evaluating my driving. Imagine if I had empty beer cans in there. They carefully looked at our cars during the police academy too. Make sure you're registered and inspected. Don't give them anything to concentrate on you.
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I hit a wall during my background investigation and never found out why. I thought I was the perfect candidate. I enlisted in the military right after high school, attended college while I served. Got the standard Honorable Discharge. Had one ticket in my whole life. No drugs. Great referrals and evals. Lived on my own and was making lots of money on corrections. There were acts of animus with my investigator. I drove 55 miles to an appointment, and he took that day off. He searched my apartment when nobody was home. Somebody whispered that he didn't like me. I kept my mouth shut and just waited him out until appointed. I saw him at a retirement function months before he passed, and I was a captain. He gave me the customary salute as a respectful gesture. We didn't speak much, but I forgave everything. If there's an obstacle, recognize it, go around it, and make it work for you.
Well said!
We had an applicant who had driven a school bus. Upon quitting the bus company to begin the police academy, he reported the bus stolen. He drove that bus to the academy on his first day, Goodbye!
Just wow
I’m still awaiting my psychometric results, once successful I have polygraph, interview and background to complete
Best of luck keep us updated
What if you’re in the car business? The turn over is so high, you get a new gm and they clean house. It’s the norm in that world. It’s a revolving door at a dealership.
It won't dq you but you will need to articulate something more
I have no criminal record whatsoever, never been reprimanded by a boss. I stole some snacks from target when I was like 14 or 15 like once or twice. My biggest possible downfall is that I was a daily weed smoker as a teenager. Now I really want to become a cop but I’m worried by how much this may hold me back. Id appreciate if anyone can share their own experiences if they found their background similar to mine!
Jump on a coaching call with my team www.armoganct.com/Free-call
what if you have medical stuff that got sent to collections and your trying to to solve it with your insurance and the collection company so that it’s paid and one of them is workman’s comp that refused to pay the bill?
You would articulate that they are currently being settled.
So moral of the story is just tell the truth just like how you should either as a citizen or a police officer telling the truth goes a long ways then to try to lie
well said
I have good credit actually maybe the best for my age I’m 21 and I have 100% payments on time and no collections. I have good work history and the job I am right now been there for almost going for 3 years and never touched drugs or even weed. The most is three tint tickets and a speeding ticket but that was when I was 18 and young and stupid! The only thing I’m worried that highway patrol might disqualify me is for doing side jobs and not reporting them since I have my regular job and the side jobs don’t pass 200 so a business man told me it wasn’t necessary what do you think?
It sounds like it does not meet the threshold
All of my substance use was while i was a teenager, its been a decade+ since. When i realized the mistake of that lifestyle i abruptly enrolled in school out of state and have never been back since. Is that a good enough explanation for my past discrepancies?
Yes they might want more specifics but you're on the right track.
What was the reason for your use? Frequency?
@@bucketstuck7137 mostly it was just the crowd I hung out with. I smoked weed pretty regularly and tried some other things but that's about it. Was far more intrigued by alcohol, musta been the Irish in me
Hello Frank, I have a traffic ticket that was sent to collection that I was never made aware of. It doesn’t show up anywhere at all on my credit history. I am not sure if it will show up in the future, but it was supposedly sent a year or two ago. I said yes in my questionnaire in regard to if I have ever bent sent to collection. Will that be a hurdle or was it unnecessary for me to say yes since it’s not on my credit?
It is out there somewhere, but it should not hurt you too bad. But make sure you did not get any court orders for not paying.
@@armogantraining7164 I did not. And no collection agency has reached out to me to make such payment which is why I am unable to take care of it.
Also have a question currently going through the process right now. My credit isnt the best. Alot of my debt is hospital bills thats in collections. I had a very hard time trying to pay them do to health issues such as my heart and doctor's had a hard time trying to figure out what was wrong with it. And so my bills kept stacking and stacking and me not asking family for help or anything cause i hate taking or asking for money. Finally they figured out what was wrong and had heart surgery and now currently trying to pay off some of my debt would that still be a disqualifying factor?
Cause it wasn't that I'm bad with money it was more of constantly having heart issues at the time and no one could figure it out until they finally did after 3 years and several different heart doctor's
It not necessarily disqualifying, but it may be depending on the specifics and how you explain it
I'm living in a house with housemates, and I'm currently on bad terms with one of them. I'm worried that they might start speaking negatively about me. Should I wait until this person moves out before applying for law enforcement in this situation?
You still most likely will have to list them
What if you been employed for X amount of years and your employer changed company names multiple times . Would that look bad
No very easy to articulate, just put a slash and a and list both names on the same line
My work history is a little better but the further I go back it’s look shady or bad
Remember it articulation
I’m here to try to gain some insight as to how long is it before you typically hear back from someone regarding your background investigation? I did my agility test and reading and Writing test on 06/25/24. Haven’t heard back from anyone at the PD I’m trying to get on with
I'd say usually after doing the written test should hear back no more then a month saying if you passed or failed
4 weeks
@@armogantraining7164 Ok thanks today makes the 3rd week since the agility test and Written Exam. I was starting to feel a little nervous and discouraged.
Hi I recently had my background interview. When I applied I had a clean record since the process take months. I got a case . The investigator said he believes I was telling the truth he said he just don’t know about pending charges. Although this wasn’t my intent and I haven’t been convicted. Some ppl say I should withdraw some say stay what would you advise me ?
This is hard to say without knowing the details but I have seen candidates get DQ just for getting a ticket while in the process.
I did my back ground today I forgot some things but then in the interview he reminded me because I interviewed before and he reminded me what I said last time and I immediately told him he was was right and explained to him what happen and told the truth! And some things I remembered in my past that I didn’t put in my packet cause I just simple forgot cause it was so long ago but I told him over the phone everything that I needed up remembering! Do you think that is going to have a big negative impact for me!
I feel like I did absolutely terrible but i know I was honest and at the end he opened up my portal so I can put in my high school transcript and my driving record and told me what happens next?
That's is never a good out come. It will be up to the investigator, it is a good thing he told you what to expect next tho.
The only thing I’m really worried about is that I have good credit but I owe on a car loan and I had to take out another to replace to my car engine I have 100% payment on time payment history and I was let go from a job when I was 18 because of texting on my phone after that happened I’ve never had those issues I am now 27
I wouldn't worry about those just make sure you articulate professionally, don't say what you said here!
If i was honest on my polygraph and failed or was inconclusive does that mean im DQ? Im waiting on the call to see if im making to the background phase
if you fail your DQ'd if inconclusive they may invite you back for a retake, but its up to the department
Hey I am assuming you’re a American Law enforcement based trainer? But do you also help for Canadian (municipalities or federal law enforcement) exams, interview. Background and poly. Please let me know. Much love from Winnipeg, MB, Canada
We mostly handle US law enforcement however I have done training and candidate prep for a few Canadian departments RCMPD and a few Ontario departments.
So I haven’t work about almost 4 years, I am at home taking care of my three children. I take my two kids to school and picked them up. Meanwhile I stay at home with the baby, it that going to look bad on my application?
No but articulation is going to be key feel free to sign up for coaching call www.armoganct.com/Free-call
Why would a BI ask for a passport?? They mention birth certificate but passport preferred.
They will probably want both at some point however I can get a little more information from a passport!
So I passed the test now I’m in the background investigating on the unreported crimes….should I be very honest on all that??
always be honest....be specific don't elaborate
Would smoking within the last 6 months and smoking when i was under 21 disqualify me?
No but some departments do have a timeframe for that time consuming a substance.
I finished the boards, will they tell me I moved on before starting the background or will they just automatically start it?
Mine did. I’m in the same boat. They let me know last Friday I was moving on. I would assume they would let you know as well. Good luck!
Obviously I’m not the video creator but I wanted to hopefully help you out lol. Hope that’s alright.
@Jonesy4722 thanks! Ya mine was last week. I feel like I haven't heard a "no" yet so hoping to get the moving on email too. Fingers crossed for us!
It depends did a short video on this to help.
Hi Mr. Magaha. How do I schedule a phone call with you? I am filling out all my background info. Thank you
You can schedule here www.armoganct.com/Free-call
What if it went to collections like 7+ years ago?
That's fine as long as you took care of it and you can articulate the events.
The only drug I’ve ever done is marijuana over 50-100+ times.. would that automatically disqualify me..
Even if I’m honest. I stopped when I decided pursuing the PD was something I wanted to do. I can pass a current drug test and open to future random tests..
I have a cj degree, good experience.. coached for 7 years, worked in a school district the last 2 years.
First time smoking was maybe junior year of college.. slowed down when I had my son after college.. moved to Michigan and began smoking again at night while working as a dean at a school ( legal in Michigan) now decided I wanted to attempt to use my degree
Is it too late and I should pursue something else?
It's not too late at all, but it does sound as if you're getting in. your own way a bit here. Jump on a free coaching call and we can discuss how to move forward and achieve this dream for you.calendly.com/candidate-coaching-steve/30min
@armogantraining7164 I have very good credit over 750+ been a home owner for 9 years and always pay my bills on time. Except one time i failed to finish paying off a debt of about $200
I called the place and they told me Not to worry about it.
Good Morning! Great video.
The agency I applied for does their process in the following sequence. Sorry for the long question.
Application
Written exam
If you pass then they will email
You a PH PACKET
Orientation - Turn in PHI
They will look over your PHI and if you pass they will assign you a BI
Your BI will then open your case and let you know if you pass onto a background investigation interview.
Which is where I am at. What will that consist of. How is this different from the phases above?
While it would not be the majority, this is not an abnormal process, I have seen it this way multiple time. The agencies have discretion sometimes to how they conduct there process. Congrats so far. But understand that the background is never done until you start.
Hey Armogan, I did LSD four years ago, I was 21, as well as mushrooms at roughly the same time. As well as using marijauna habitually for the last 10 years. I quit marijauna in January. I havent touched the LSD for four years, the mushrooms for four years. Do you think I have a chance?
My recruitment officer said that they have a 2 year guideline on any illegal drug that isn't marijauna(lsd, mushrooms), then they arent considered during the application process. But when it comes to the BI, it'll look bad, correct?
Well said but remember every department has different standards
Well said but remember every department has different standards
2:58 What’s dqed?
DQed means disqualified.
@@armogantraining7164 oh ok. I thought it was something more serious like getting arrested.