The Worst Stages in Super Smash Bros. History

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • #supersmashbrosultimate #nintendoswitch
    The Smash Bros. series has had over 100 stages across its history.
    What are the worst of the worst? Which stages are absolutely unbearable to play on?
    Let's find out!
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    Tracklist:
    Clanker's Cavern | Banjo-Kazooie
    Rusty Bucket Bay | Banjo-Kazooie
    Redial | Bomberman Hero
    Milky | Bomberman Hero
    Denise Marmalade Loses | The Misadventures of Tron Bonne
    We are the 3 Bonne Brothers | Mega Man Legends
    Reflection Room | Mega Man Legends
    The Flutter | Mega Man Legends
    Starman's Stage | Mega Man Network Transmission
    Relaxation | Mega Man Network Transmission
    Opening Stage | Mega Man 8
    Frost Man | Mega Man 8
    Sword Man | Mega Man 8
    Aqua Man | Mega Man 8
    Dr. Wily Stage 2 | Mega Man 8
    Dr. Wily Stage 3 | Mega Man 8
    Peach's Castle | Super Smash Bros.
    Vs. Results | Super Smash Bros.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 707

  • @ElectrikStatik900
    @ElectrikStatik900 3 роки тому +788

    bruh the pac-land stand is complete garbage

    • @AlexEXE
      @AlexEXE  3 роки тому +208

      I miss Pac-Maze so much :(

    • @ElectrikStatik900
      @ElectrikStatik900 3 роки тому +57

      @@AlexEXE me too :'(

    • @supermariomadness2510
      @supermariomadness2510 3 роки тому +40

      Honestly Pac-Maze should of been on both the 3DS and Wii U versions of Smash 4 so it could return to Smash Ultimate

    • @artimist0315
      @artimist0315 3 роки тому +18

      To be honest I think of all the stages mentioned Pac land is one off the "best" (don't get me wrong it is still terrible). I don't think the platforming is that bad as far as scrolling stages go, it is just that the stage looks horrible. I'm sure if this was the Minecraft stage everyone would love it for no reason. For ultimate while I don't think there is new terrible stage I don't find the stage standard that high either, most stage really REALLY lack dynamism. The DLCs added the incredible spring stadium and made my wish come true by adding azurda as a stage (I don't care about xenoblade by the way) but the other stages are really meh. I think the 3DS list was way better.

    • @tikprpro03
      @tikprpro03 3 роки тому +6

      @SHON It's because Maze has that gimmick that requires each player to have their own screen so...

  • @Mr__Jack
    @Mr__Jack 3 роки тому +247

    To give insight on Peach’s Castle, it’s actually called In the Sky of Peach Castle in the Japanese version hence why it’s in the sky above Peach’s Castle. I think they just wanted it to be more concise for the international version

  • @DeityShinobi
    @DeityShinobi 3 роки тому +477

    Pac-Land may not be a great stage, but it’s really hilarious to surprise your friends if you know the fire hydrant secret and become giant.

    • @Quetzal00358
      @Quetzal00358 3 роки тому +18

      What is it?

    • @DeityShinobi
      @DeityShinobi 3 роки тому +89

      When the match starts and gets to the fire hydrants, push one by walking into it and you’ll grow big as if you got a mushroom.

    • @WolfyGamer99
      @WolfyGamer99 3 роки тому +9

      Oh I didn't know that... Cool!

    • @DangerOctoYT
      @DangerOctoYT 3 роки тому +2

      @@DeityShinobi It’s not working

    • @rayanalfaraj8
      @rayanalfaraj8 3 роки тому +11

      @@DangerOctoYT I think it might be random thing , so try pushing all of them from all sides.

  • @MrBulletwood
    @MrBulletwood 3 роки тому +680

    Someone making a custom stage for their first time: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

    • @donovanhadley2209
      @donovanhadley2209 3 роки тому +23

      Ouch, I've felt that

    • @JediSteve-J3-
      @JediSteve-J3- 3 роки тому +9

      Same

    • @JohnLover1179
      @JohnLover1179 3 роки тому +31

      Lol I remember making a stage named George and was just a bunch of circles over a lava floor

    • @PlaceholderName329
      @PlaceholderName329 3 роки тому +8

      😦 it’s a good thing I don’t know how to post it online

    • @mikaela5938
      @mikaela5938 3 роки тому +9

      most custom stages are more playable than the retro game stages

  • @scarced8412
    @scarced8412 3 роки тому +297

    The fact that they got rid of Pac-Maze for Pac-Land hurts..

    • @Chaotic_Hollow
      @Chaotic_Hollow 3 роки тому +3

      Nice pfp/name idea

    • @Chaotic_Hollow
      @Chaotic_Hollow 3 роки тому +1

      @cyleeisme Brawl Stars Dude why are you getting mad it's a compliment chill out

    • @Chaotic_Hollow
      @Chaotic_Hollow 3 роки тому +2

      @Cyrus Brawl Stars I was just saying that I like his PFP because it's funny, no need to be upset over a compliment. that seems a little dumb, don't you think?

    • @scarced8412
      @scarced8412 3 роки тому +2

      lmao this is just Morgz' family

    • @francessantos6169
      @francessantos6169 3 роки тому +2

      I agree with you. Pac Maze is much better Pac Man stage than Pac Land.

  • @elmoblaster8797
    @elmoblaster8797 3 роки тому +65

    “The first and most obvious is icicle mountain”... “N O”

  • @skotiaH2O
    @skotiaH2O 3 роки тому +137

    I personally really like Mushroomy Kingdom because of the eerie vibe it gives off. How did a lively world such as Mario's turn into a deserted wasteland? It really makes you wonder.

    • @mythoughtsexactly2145
      @mythoughtsexactly2145 3 роки тому +24

      Me too. Just the serene deserted place vibe was really cool for a Mario stage

    • @jeremiahhester6408
      @jeremiahhester6408 3 роки тому +3

      I just hate the underground part.

    • @JohnLover1179
      @JohnLover1179 3 роки тому +10

      I think it was made to resemble Sarasaland

    • @JohnLover1179
      @JohnLover1179 3 роки тому +4

      @@juandavidamadomartin8015 I know just thought I'd be cool

    • @Mepphy99
      @Mepphy99 3 роки тому +5

      I mean Mario has a desert world
      If We tale the example of Green Hill getting dusted in Forces, than it's Just not being used

  • @Radiant_Emerald
    @Radiant_Emerald 3 роки тому +68

    Mega Man 8's soundtrack is amazing

    • @megamanx5760
      @megamanx5760 3 роки тому +1

      They weren't the best but they were pretty good

    • @Phun-Bun
      @Phun-Bun 3 роки тому

      The soundtrack is at least good

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 3 роки тому +17

    One of my least favorite stages that was not talked about here is Norfair. It is just constant lava and when that tidal wave of lava comes in with that safe capsule that pops up in a random spot, I start freaking out.

    • @tjtg8861
      @tjtg8861 3 роки тому +6

      It's really fun when you're playing with multiple people, especially for people who like stage hazards. Also the music is epic.

    • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
      @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 3 роки тому +2

      @@tjtg8861 Yeah, I tried it with multiple people and still hate that stage.

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester 3 роки тому +55

    Ah yes, The Greatly Offensive Cave

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 3 роки тому +4

      It's also keeping me from beating all the Event Matches in Smash 4 Wii U. How in the world do you manage to grab enough food in the time limit without taking too much damage that forces you to need to eat even more food?!

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 3 роки тому

      Compucles I think that's one of few I never cleared either. It's so hard

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 3 роки тому +1

      @@Compucles Use Sonic?

    • @AnimationJ
      @AnimationJ 3 роки тому

      @@MeesterTweester offensive cave

    • @zaku28
      @zaku28 3 роки тому +1

      @@Compucles oh man, that challenge took me months to beat. I wasn’t playing it non stop of course, I’d just play it in between the other easier challenges. I was very happy when I finally got it done though

  • @tiago64sp59
    @tiago64sp59 3 роки тому +36

    Also 75m isn’t even a good retro call back, why didn’t they choose 25m ? It’s wayyyy more iconic, and it’s lay out could work well in Smash.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 3 роки тому +6

      Moray Towers feels more like an arcade Donkey Kong stage than 75m

    • @Chris-gx1ei
      @Chris-gx1ei 16 днів тому

      Or why not the cement factory?
      Or the stage with the falling Plattform?

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag 3 роки тому +22

    As much as I like the "arcade" stages, it feels like they should be something more. I like the idea of being able to basically play mini-games while in a fight, but the problem is that it gets in the way of the fighting. I enjoy being able to play a sample of an iconic game, but I wish they did more with them. Give challenges associated with getting a high score, completing a certain amount of rounds or loops, anything! They _literally_ put the entirety of Pac-Land in Smash. Why can't I just play a Smash version of it? It feels like that's what event matches were made for.
    As a side note, it's a crime that so many classic Namco songs were trapped in a stage nobody likes to play. If it weren't for that update a while back, I doubt anyone would be able to listen to them.

    • @off-the-grounder568
      @off-the-grounder568 5 місяців тому

      I feel the same way about Mushroomy Kingdom and also Duck Hunt, but Duck Hunt’s actually pretty good for a fight.

  • @xzer0s
    @xzer0s 3 роки тому +59

    Honestly icicle mountain would work as a target stage, and rumble falls too.

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 3 роки тому +5

      Break the Targets only truly functioned as a side mode thru Melee due to the moderate roster size.
      I'm still bummed out about a lack of substantial side modes in Ultimate for 1P.
      Even in Wii U I would play Crazy Orders or even Smash Tour for the chaotic factor.
      Grinding out the moves and trophies was more of an incentive than Spirits which are too simple.

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 3 роки тому +36

    Annoying fact about wrecking crew. If you use Ganondorf's final smash while on that stage in Ultimate, he turns into a tiny ganon. It was so weird that when I did it when the game first came out, I thought that it was what Ganondorf's final smash really was, a tiny ganon. I don't know if this was changed though, I just know it was that way in the beginning.

    • @AUTTY6242
      @AUTTY6242 3 роки тому +11

      There's also a random glitch where if you get trapped in the drum, the moment the stage morphs, your character is stuck in the air with invincibility...forever. I learned that in an Ultimate Salt is Real video a very long while ago and I still remember it

    • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
      @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 3 роки тому +3

      @@AUTTY6242 Cool

  • @gigiobigio0002
    @gigiobigio0002 Рік тому +7

    That mushroomy kingdom map has always creeped me out. Its supposed to be colorful and happy, but it just feels dead, alone, like everything was destroyed. If someone were to tell me this background was from a creepypasta id even believe that.

    • @shawnfields2369
      @shawnfields2369 9 місяців тому

      Well; they do explain that the kingdom you once knew has turned to dust and been ruined and also rusted away over the long years apparently. Doesn't make it a good stage though. 75m; Rumble Falls; Great Cave Offensive; Hannenbow; Palutena's Temple; Hyrule Temple; Wrecking Crew; Rainbow Ride(don't even like that level in Super Mario 64); Pac-Land; Balloon Fight; hate all of those stages. But at least Peach's Castle fixed all the problems; and you can turn off bad stages. So you don't have to deal with Wrecking Crew; Balloon Fight; Pac-Land; or any of the bad returning or bad new stages you don't have or want to. And I don't even mind 8 Player Smash. I'd rather have had Poke Floats come back though. Despite how tense things got for me every time I played on it in Melee; and how I secretly hated it sometimes; despite how much I love Pokemon though. But there's no excuse for Pac-Land; Hanenbow; Wrecking Crew; Mario Bros. 75m; and especially Mushroomy Kingdom. Those stages suck. And for various reasons. As well as Great Cave Offensive(lives up to its name); Palutena's Temple; Hyrule Temple(fights take TOO long and it's annoying. Should've cut it in half or gotten rid of it; like Icicle Mountain). And Rainbow Ride? Did anyone like that level in SM64? I know I didn't. Should've used Bob-Omb Battlefield; maybe Tick-Tock Clock; even one of the 3 Bowser levels:Bowser In The Dark World, Bowser In The Fire Sea, and Bowser In The Sky.
      Maybe something like: Tiny-Huge Island? Lava Lava Land? Or maybe, Shifting Sand Land? More Super Mario 64 stages wouldn't have been bad...probably. Also, what about the Ice stages like Snoman's Land or the other one I forgot the name of; with the crying baby penguin that everybody hates finding.

  • @chrisjackson6149
    @chrisjackson6149 3 роки тому +20

    I actually love Mushroomy Kingdom's interpretation of 1-1 as a barren, desolate wasteland. Gritzy Desert's theme fits sooo well with it, plus Smash doesn't really have a lot of desert-like stages (Gerudo Valley being the only other one that kinda counts), so I'd say it's a welcome change.

  • @Lucy2Juicy
    @Lucy2Juicy 3 роки тому +19

    I cant believe Orbital Gate Assault was not here

    • @johnnyboy2364
      @johnnyboy2364 3 роки тому +1

      I have actually blocked that out of my mind. Thanks for bringing it back. My older brother would pick that stage and I would die more to platforms problems or explosions than anything else. What absolute abomination of a stage

    • @galvsparks6295
      @galvsparks6295 3 роки тому +3

      Wasn’t that the stage that literally took one year to develop ? Besides I really loved this stage so nah

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 3 роки тому +2

      That stage was so damn awful, and that’s a shame because it was one heck of a spectacle

  • @pouchnoubout
    @pouchnoubout 3 роки тому +15

    I'm entirely surprised you didn't include Starfox assault's stage on the wii u segment. It was notorious for being one of the most chaotic stage in smash history. Visually, it was absolutely stunning and gave a great spectacle for who was watching. But actually playing on it?.... yeah no. XD

  • @idiotcat7696
    @idiotcat7696 3 роки тому +18

    Peaches castle 64 used to be tournament legal, lol

  • @Lightningflamingice
    @Lightningflamingice 3 роки тому +2

    my personal theory is that all these terrible scrolling stages were originally part of some sort of scrapped "story mode" in Smash 4 or were simply cut from Subspace Emissary, and after they did all the work building the stages they thought "screw it, we'll just keep it in"

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 3 роки тому

      Nah, Smash 4 really went wild with the gimmicks, in some stages making them far more faithful to the source material, like: the gravity effect in Mario Galaxy, the power pellets and ghosts in Pac-Maze, Ridley’s battle in Pyrosphere, the many unique platforms in Wily Castle, the bombs, falling floors and drums in Wrecking Crew, etc.
      Pac-Land (the game) is a side scroller, and I remember hearing it was a pioneer for 2D platformers as a whole, being inspiration for the very Super Mario Bros., so it makes sense for Sakurai to wanna immortalize this game in Smash with a side scrolling stage...too bad the stage itself sucks, many mechanics from the original games don’t really translate all that well in Smash, many were too intrusive to the battle itself that were super annoying, even for casual play, it’s almost as if the reason Omega forms became a thing was because they acknowledged how overly whacky they made many of the stages, and they didn’t want to annoy most players too much (chaos is fun, but not always), thank god they really toned that down in Ultimate, for the better, even Moray Towers is miles better than 75m or Palutena’s Temple, they also returned the hazards toggle (although it needs some fixing tbh), and gave every stage a Battlefield form so people that hate most stage layouts can enjoy more than just a bunch of flat surfaces

  • @Litchy51
    @Litchy51 3 роки тому +5

    I think the original peach’s castle is one of the first official stages they added to the game, and so the reason why it has so many random elements is because they were quite experimental when making it.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 3 роки тому +5

      Tbf, the only thing that truly feels out of place is that bumper at the very top, everything else reminds me a bit of the sky levels in Super Mario 64

  • @deadheat1635
    @deadheat1635 3 роки тому +50

    I always feel bad for Hanenbow because it’s actually one of my favorite stages.

    • @arjaycook7612
      @arjaycook7612 3 роки тому +15

      Same, honestly. And not just because "haha, funny green screen." I just genuinely like it.

    • @theleafguard116
      @theleafguard116 3 роки тому +5

      Me to

    • @SuperGoker64
      @SuperGoker64 3 роки тому +16

      Here's something that's always puzzled me about Hanenbow: Electroplankton is a music-based game, yes? So why does Hanenbow only have one song? Keep in mind that this stage was introduced in Brawl, where stages can have more than two songs to them. Heck, the Rhythm Heaven series has _three_ songs in Ultimate, and it's yet to have a single stage to its name.

    • @jadell5240
      @jadell5240 3 роки тому +4

      I’ve Never liked Hanenbow But I understand why people like it

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 роки тому +3

      They should’ve cut hanenbow from ultimate to bring back Poké floats

  • @Elfilinfan
    @Elfilinfan 3 роки тому +3

    13:28
    "It becomes boring very quick"
    Shows corrin

  • @Litchy51
    @Litchy51 3 роки тому +10

    I guess you could say that Great Cave Offensive was so bad that it’s “offensive”.

  • @jomaq9233
    @jomaq9233 3 роки тому +6

    PAC-MAZE may have not returned in Ultimate because of it using the “every player having their own screen” limitation of the 3DS to its advantage... but I still think they could’ve modified the stage to work with multiple players on one screen (like how Golden Plains was)

  • @Mr.Bellafante
    @Mr.Bellafante 3 роки тому +2

    I played a tonne of Brawl as a kid, and I completely forgot rumble falls existed. I don't think me or my friends ever intentionally picked it.

  • @egon3705
    @egon3705 3 роки тому +2

    "Moving on from Melee, we enter what I like to call the dark age of Smash-"
    *cocks gun*
    "-stages"
    _slowly puts gun down_

    • @kylewood4488-b9r
      @kylewood4488-b9r 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly the only reason people liked Brawl was because of its story mode. Without it mostly likely nobody would have cared for it. Slowest gameplay out of all the Smash games, the worst stages in the series, the worst in balancing characters and Tripping. I swear that the inclusion of a story, 3rd party characters and the music was what kept it from being completely forgotten.

    • @thewisthersgames
      @thewisthersgames 3 роки тому

      @@kylewood4488-b9r Boss Battle, Stage Builder, Final Smashes, Assist Thropies.
      And Brawl is the worst balanced, did you saw Melee, Kirby with escapable grabs, Marth with a theter, Jigglypuff back air and rest killing at 0, Peach down smash dealing 50% and breaking shield, Pokémon Stadium making you drop when you are walking, Mewtwo with a reflector that don’t reflect, Bowser down throw dealing 0% to Jigglypuff and Mr. Game and Watch, Ice Climbers freezing glitch, Roy attack having a longer animation than the active hitbox, and the list extend more

    • @kylewood4488-b9r
      @kylewood4488-b9r 3 роки тому

      @@thewisthersgames 2nd worst balanced.

  • @nukeocelot3664
    @nukeocelot3664 3 роки тому +12

    Fun fact: they remove 1-2 from ultimate

  • @jaye4521
    @jaye4521 3 роки тому +2

    I wish the "retro game" stages at least had updated graphics. Like, Summit and Wrecking Crew both look pretty nice while still representing their source games fairly well. Stages like Game Boy Dream Land, Balloon Fight, Pac-Land, 3DS Mute City, Duck Hunt, etc. just look ugly because they clash with the other in-game graphics. They come off as cheap, lazily-made stages that try to get away with reusing 8-bit assets by using nostalgia/faithfulness as a selling point. But it's not like Spiral Mountain and Great Bay use blocky N64 graphics. It's dumb how only the "NES era" stages get saddled with this curse. I'd much rather see these classic locations realized in updated graphics to create a unified look for all the characters and locations in Smash. In my opinion, if retro CHARACTERS get a facelift for Smash, then so should retro STAGES.

  • @JmrUltra
    @JmrUltra 2 роки тому +2

    The two Smash 4 Wii U you mentioned, Palutena’s Temple and The Great Cave Offensive, I actually kinda like personally. The former for Palutena’s Guidance and for both being fun stages in my opinion. But I respect everyone’s opinion on both of these stages.

  • @floris4232
    @floris4232 3 роки тому +7

    I love how Mega Man is in the tumbnail but Willy Castle didnt get included while imo it shouldve.

  • @PTp1ranha
    @PTp1ranha 3 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised no mention of Dr. Wily's Castle. The Yellow Devil just DOMINATES the stage, it takes up so much room and respawns constantly. The fight becomes less of a Smash Bros. match and more "dodge the Yellow Devil until everyone else screws up".
    It's not even a fun mixup like the Mario Bros. Arcade stage, it's just "okay calm down with the boss, man".

  • @mariajimenafigueroa233
    @mariajimenafigueroa233 3 роки тому +6

    Peach's Castle
    Bad in the original
    Awesome and S-WEET in Melee

  • @halloweenpeachy
    @halloweenpeachy 3 роки тому +1

    Fun Fact: Moray Towers is actually one of if not the worst splatoon stages in both games.

  • @psyachu
    @psyachu 2 роки тому +1

    The funniest thing about Moray Towers is that there's plenty of Splatoon players that hate that stage in Splatoon. As someone who hates Moray Towers in Splatoon, it's nice that smash players hate it too, and for the same reason: Too damn vertical.

  • @funkinxvocaloidfan6345
    @funkinxvocaloidfan6345 3 роки тому +1

    Jesus Christ Mushroomy Kingdom is extremely dark especially due to the fact that this is a mario stage I can only imagine the heartbreak for many NES players just having to witness a level they grew up with now in ruins it’s sad man :(

  • @n00bplayer72
    @n00bplayer72 3 роки тому +2

    Personal least favourites:
    N64: *Peach's Castle.* Same reasons you listed. It's too easy to die here
    Melee: *Rainbow Cruise.* I'm surprised you didn't mention it. Whenever I play it with friends, we spend more time trying to keep up with the stage than fighting. *Icicle Mountain* for the same reasons you listed.
    Brawl: *Rumble Falls* and *75m* for the same reasons you listed. *World 1-2 in Mushroomy Kingdom* because most fights just devolve into only fighting on the top layer and dying early because you're right next to the blast zone.
    Smash 4: *Gaur Plains.* If the stage had been arranged the other way around, with the wide platforms on the bottom, it would have been perfect. But everyone I play against, new or not, instinctively avoids the bottom layers like the plague. *Orbital Gate Assault* because it's way too hectic. Imagine you're trying to recover, but all the platforms go away and you die. I lost a couple All-star matches because of that. *Palutena's Temple* and *Great Cave Offensive* for the same reasons you listed. Too big and too much. *Dr. Wily's Castle.* It quickly becomes 'survive Yellow Devil' rather than fight. *Pac-Land* for the same reasons you listed.
    Ultimate: I actually have no problems with the new stages. It seems the developers drastically toned down the intensity of the stage design here.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 3 роки тому +1

      I wish that in Ultimate, the hazards toggle only got rid of the Yellow Devil, the platforms should really stay, Wily Castle is just its Omega Form from Smash 4 without hazards -_-

  • @Trixarif
    @Trixarif Рік тому +2

    This video just made me remember the poke floats stage and how much i loved it, they need to bring it back in smash up ultimate.

  • @laser90
    @laser90 20 днів тому

    The triangular "lego pieces" in Peach's Castle resemble set pieces in Rainbow Ride, and the weird bridges are from Cool Cool Mountain. Yeah it's still weird to shove them all into a random floating structure, but at least the references are noteworthy.

  • @fool8304
    @fool8304 3 роки тому +1

    I like brawl more than most people, but I really don't know what they were thinking with most of the stages. At least 80% of them were designed with some kind of one-hit KO hazard, that's what makes platform fighters fun

  • @Jellyman1129
    @Jellyman1129 3 роки тому +1

    Mushroomy Kingdom is actually Bowser’s stage. It’s supposed to be 1-1 if Bowser reigned supreme. It’s even on the Smash Ultimate website for Bowser’s background.

  • @Artemixization
    @Artemixization 3 роки тому +3

    Surprised because you didn't mention Poke floats, the sky from kid Ikarus or the Olimar stage from Brawl. But agreed with most of your choices.

    • @Ricken9000
      @Ricken9000 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah they didn’t mention it for a reason. Pokefloats is the best stage in melee and should be tournament legal

  • @LuigiOne12
    @LuigiOne12 3 роки тому +4

    2:34 N O

  • @juanthehorse420
    @juanthehorse420 2 роки тому

    Mushroomy Kingdom is a great metaphor for Brawl as a whole - it’s a rehash where the lighting and saturation of every character and texture were turned to 0, completely ruining the aesthetic of the entire game

  • @derpybreads2212
    @derpybreads2212 3 роки тому +1

    "Peach's Castle 64 is a really bad stage" "There were no other stages in 64 that could fit this" 1. Peach's Castle 64 is my favorite stage in any smash game ever, and I love playing on it, the bumper and the lego pieces add a lot of charm to it, and also, Mushroom Kingdom is literally right there

    • @derpybreads2212
      @derpybreads2212 3 роки тому +1

      @Julio Paulino 1. By "charm" I mean jank 2. I was talking about the stage Mushroom Kingdom 3. I planned on listing numbers, but I forgot to

    • @derpybreads2212
      @derpybreads2212 3 роки тому +1

      @Julio Paulino the one with the pipes that you can actually enter and the pit with the scale

  • @nishillipare1403
    @nishillipare1403 3 роки тому +14

    So, now we all want the best stages, right?

    • @thewisthersgames
      @thewisthersgames 3 роки тому

      Kalos Pokémon League

    • @arlo4707
      @arlo4707 3 роки тому

      hanenbow and pokefloats are the only acceptable answers

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 3 роки тому

      Temple, no contest.

    • @pearce_official
      @pearce_official 3 роки тому

      Northern Cave, Minecraft World (Because of the randomly generated layout and biome, it gives you a thought of what it's gonna be like when you choose it), Luigi's Mansion, and New Donk City Hall, those are four stages in my list

  • @bctalicorn809
    @bctalicorn809 3 роки тому +2

    Pac-Land is the worst abomination ever conceived.
    It is so easy to lose track of what is a foreground and a background element, what is solid and what isn't, and it's too zoomed in especially for a moving stage. I really don't know how this got past play testing... twice!

  • @mettatonex7221
    @mettatonex7221 3 роки тому +1

    Now I'm going to share an unpopular opinion of mine: in a vacuum, gigantic stages aren't bad. The right kind of large stage can actually be fun just to mess around with and are nice fodder for optional arbitrary challenges, like the Hyrule Jump/Reverse Hyrule Jump on Hyrule Temple. With that in mind, I actually quite like Palutena's Temple as a stage. The problem arrises when those stages become loaded with mechanics that make the stage unfun to traverse, like the tiny platforms and abundant enemies on 75m or the lava zones of Great Cave Offensive. Gaur Plains is a bit of a weird case, because Metal Face isn't even all that big of a pain, at least not compared to the Yellow Devil, but the layout of Gaur Plains is the worst part of it; that huge gap of empty space in the middle just hurts the stage, and the small platforms underneath the large platforms are not any fun to jump around on. It makes me prefer the 3DS version of the stage.

  • @Ganonmustdie2
    @Ganonmustdie2 3 роки тому

    Megaman 8, Megaman Network Transmission, Bomberman Hero? We're busting out all the underrated soundtracks today! Very fitting considering the "unpopular stages" theme, except unlike these stages the music's good.
    And I'm happy my boy Orbital Gate Assault avoided the chopping block. It's so janky but I love the spectacle and the set-pieces to fight on way too much. Wish they brought it back in Ultimate and fixed the weird part where you'd fall off the 3 arwings during the transition if you didn't jump beforehand.

  • @EpicElder338
    @EpicElder338 3 роки тому

    “75 m, yeah you all expected this one”
    Me: “I didn’t expect it because it’s not one of the worst stage”

  • @afranticperson
    @afranticperson 3 роки тому +1

    I’m not trying to say that New Pork City is a good stage but it is very big in Mother 3 and the background perfectly resembles it as well.

  • @64ios
    @64ios 3 роки тому +24

    You forgot about Poke Floats. (;

    • @cw4038
      @cw4038 3 роки тому +9

      I love Poke Floats 😪

    • @WiiEnjoyer10617
      @WiiEnjoyer10617 3 роки тому

      ok

    • @johannesboomsma4680
      @johannesboomsma4680 3 роки тому +6

      Poke floats is amazing though

    • @aidankocherhans9861
      @aidankocherhans9861 3 роки тому +1

      I don't know if Poke Floats is good, but it was my favorite as a child.

    • @cobalt7248
      @cobalt7248 3 роки тому +2

      Poké Floats is so weird it's good.
      By a casual standpoint, I mean...

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 3 роки тому +1

    (6:15) Since it's metric, it isn't pronounced "75 em" but "75 metres". This is because metric symbols are pronounced by its full name. So the symbol "km" isn't "key-em" but "kilometer".

  • @midnight2029
    @midnight2029 3 роки тому +1

    _please don't say Poké floats, please don't say Poké floats_
    "Icicle Mountain" ok yeah makes sense
    "Brinstar Depths" yep, same here
    "Princess Peach's Castle" uh, ok I actually like this one
    "That's it for Melee" thank god

  • @ametrine7462
    @ametrine7462 3 роки тому +1

    One that I can’t stand is Skyworld. It’s a cramped mess that’s frustrating to recover on.

  • @youtubegod6357
    @youtubegod6357 Місяць тому

    “This is one of the ugliest stages in the series”
    The ruins are ugly!?
    What a surprise!
    I thought the RUINS would look like the work of bob ross

  • @Toadiferous
    @Toadiferous 3 роки тому

    Palutena's Temple is amazing for 8 Player Smash if you're doing 2v2v2v2. I've had so many great matches that literally felt like wars where teams were each controlling territories. Obviously it takes a while but that's part of the fun.

  • @curtdog647
    @curtdog647 3 роки тому +2

    Palutena's Temple could be split into four and it would still be four completely good stages.
    To be fair, I do like Palutena's Temple more than the other big stages.
    Great Cave Offensive and 75m can die in a hole

  • @MosesX-Labs
    @MosesX-Labs 3 роки тому

    The only cool thing about PAC-Land is the how they made the forest section look like the characters are walking a little bit into the background, but everything else about it sucks.

  • @thedapperdolphin1590
    @thedapperdolphin1590 3 роки тому +1

    I think Temple was the only truly good big stage. I think it works because it’s split into 3/4 distinct zones, but it’s easy to traverse between them. It makes the fight feel a bit more dynamic when you can change location, and it’s fun in multiplayer if you want to split into groups. I think Temple is even fun for just two players, especially if you’re sticking to one area.
    Other big stages are just a mess of platforms. It’s hard to navigate to different areas and there’s just an overload of visual information. It also takes too long to chase down players running away.

    • @dustymcwari4468
      @dustymcwari4468 Рік тому

      Also being a huge stage is already a gimmick in on itself, another reason why Temple works so well is because it doesn’t disrupt the fight with anything other than it’s very own irregular terrain, which is also decently spaced out, making fighting and moving around that stage very fine despite its size, which is very important for a stage so huge, so when a large stage has other gimmicks, that automatically makes them a cluster because just moving around is already tricky

  • @IK-yb5rn
    @IK-yb5rn 3 роки тому

    Peach’s Castle looks like everyone’s first stage they made in Brawl’s stagebuilder

  • @Ahandsomeface
    @Ahandsomeface 3 роки тому

    I'm a little surprised Jungle Japes wasn't on here. I know I heard from others that they find this map annoying for its high-speed water hazards and small platforms. I don't really hate this map, but do find it annoying when you land in the water. Although the map is small and easier to grab onto the ledges, plus it is nice to look at.

  • @aidankocherhans9861
    @aidankocherhans9861 3 роки тому +1

    I think Wily's Castle and Magicant are two of the worst, purely for their stage hazards. The yellow devil is really annoying, and the bird man is completely unfair in two player smash.

  • @PowerOf47
    @PowerOf47 3 місяці тому

    Turns out the reason why Mushroomy Kingdom exists is because of a pun. In Japan the Mushroom Kingdom stages from 64 and Melee with the retro designs are called "Ancient Kingdom", Mushroomy Kingdom is called "Ancient-like Kingdom" so instead of referring to the style of the design being ancient it refers to the kingdom itself being ancient and in ruins.
    All to say, we are stuck with this ugly stage (that personally makes me very uncomfortable just looking at it) all because of a pun that only works in Japanese, Chinese, and Korean

  • @stonedassnecoarc
    @stonedassnecoarc 3 роки тому

    I'm suprised that Yoshi's Island melee wasn't even mentioned. That stage makes people live FOREVER

  • @stinos24
    @stinos24 3 роки тому +2

    Mushroomy kingdom is called: deserted mushroom kingdom, in Dutch

  • @naeshaunedwards7731
    @naeshaunedwards7731 3 роки тому +1

    9:11 I personally always liked this stage, but it went down for me when they took away the night time version of the level

  • @dannylopez5976
    @dannylopez5976 3 роки тому

    Pac Land is a map of skill and speed, testing your endurance and battle prowecess to it's fullest.
    Not a single pixel is wasted, everything adding to your battle, serving as piece to use to your advantage to destroy your enemies.

  • @soloalencon2909
    @soloalencon2909 3 роки тому +1

    Man im so glad you didnt put Orbital Gate Assault in here. That stage is uber fun

  • @About9000
    @About9000 3 роки тому +1

    I like stages that move around a bit and varry the terrain, but I don't like anything that takes precident over my battle with my opponent, so scrolling stages (except for rainbow road for nostalgia's sake) are a no. and also stages that force 3d characters into the second dimension. that just feels wrong. and the retro stages. and great cave and palutena's temple are fun in certain contexts, but those are highly context sensetive. everything else is pretty fun for me, even big blue, especially big blue.

  • @Angry5704
    @Angry5704 3 роки тому +13

    My man Alex keeping me loyal by not saying Poke Floats sucks.

    • @SuperGoker64
      @SuperGoker64 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly, Poke Floats is one of my all-time favorites. The only negative thing I can say about it is that I've clipped through Seel a few times.

    • @Angry5704
      @Angry5704 3 роки тому +1

      @@SuperGoker64 I haven't, because I avoid him 'cause I know how wacked out his collision detection can be. I usually stay on Venusaur until Wobbuffet appears, then I jump on Seel for about a second to get to Wobbuffet.

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I don’t get why some people hate it. It’s chaotic, but that’s the fun of it. A great stage for casual play, especially at parties. I’ve definitely gotten some good laughs out of it.
      Shame it’s not in Ultimate. It would be a blast in 8-player Smash. Would also look really nice to see the sky in HD

    • @Angry5704
      @Angry5704 3 роки тому +1

      @@thedapperdolphin1590 I know, right? My last remaining hope is that they'll add a past stages DLC pack or something, but that's prob'ly not gonna happen.

  • @m.m.2341
    @m.m.2341 Рік тому

    I was like "don't you dare put Poke Floats in here". I loved that one haha

  • @Timmothy_plays
    @Timmothy_plays 3 роки тому +1

    75M would be a really fun stage IF IT ONLY HAD A BOTTOM FLOOR!

    • @Timmothy_plays
      @Timmothy_plays 3 роки тому

      ps: The only reason why i love the Balloon fight stage is because i love it's battlefield/omega stage.

  • @Grodycell
    @Grodycell 3 роки тому

    When I was a kid, me and my brothers LOVED rumble falls. Its probably because we didn’t know what we were doing, we didn’t even know to press up b to get back onstage, but looking back makes me sad, it pisses me off that something young me loved so much is so garbage. Fun times, although I still have brawl and play it fairly regularly.

  • @thiscommenter180
    @thiscommenter180 3 роки тому +3

    Some are just utterly mind blowing that they made it into ultimate. Classics, for sure, but still terrible

  • @Moon-nk3co
    @Moon-nk3co 3 роки тому +2

    If you make a best of this series.
    I hope to see Magicant is on there, it’s fun and beautiful.

  • @sheridan5175
    @sheridan5175 3 роки тому +1

    Scrolling stages should just follow the players, but only in one direction.

  • @shordystarx
    @shordystarx 3 роки тому +2

    so underrated, should have over a million by now! i love your videos

  • @willy24able
    @willy24able 3 роки тому

    75M is also what made that GODDAMN Pauline Spirit Battle so FUCKING infamous! I HATE THAT FUCKING SPIRIT BATTLE THUS I NEVER WANT TO GO THERE AGAIN!

  • @_-Lost_Fox-_
    @_-Lost_Fox-_ 2 роки тому

    On the balloon fight map I had 1 of the worst online experiences. It was a zero suit Samus who had items and camped me and it was the worst, in my opinion that's the worst stage

  • @CanZand7SM
    @CanZand7SM 3 роки тому +3

    I expected him to talk about Gamer.

    • @popsie6336
      @popsie6336 3 роки тому +1

      Gamer’s a good casual stage

  • @FlameLFH
    @FlameLFH 2 роки тому

    Oh c'mon New Pork City isn't *that* bad. Sure there's quite a bit of empty space but the insta-kill Chimera is both an exciting hazard and a good reference to the game it's based on. It's also fairly easy to avoid unless you get caught next to one of their spawn points.

  • @ShiftyGuy777
    @ShiftyGuy777 2 роки тому

    Really? Mushroomy Kingdom looks band? I honestly love this rendition of World 1-1. The desert landscape is a beauty to look at.

  • @BrawlSnorlax
    @BrawlSnorlax 3 роки тому +1

    One I can't stand that you didn't touch on was Venom, it doesn't look good, and playing on the front-facing Great Fox is not fun, it's all solpes.

  • @maccheese1263
    @maccheese1263 3 роки тому

    6:06
    The leaf legit just moved up so he could not grab on,
    like... COME ON

  • @empressharu1915
    @empressharu1915 3 роки тому +1

    Surprised Venom wasn’t mentioned. That stage sucks, and I really don’t like playing it. Also Summit really isn’t that good.

  • @justicetaylor3050
    @justicetaylor3050 3 роки тому

    I agree with pretty much everything said. However, as much as I loved StarFox's Sector Z, Link didn't function there. His jumping and recovery were such garbage it felt like he'd get stuck on the lower deck if he fell back there. Little Mac would've had the same problem if the sapce ship remained large.

  • @Mepphy99
    @Mepphy99 3 роки тому +1

    Most "casual stages" are actually kinda cool but PAC Land Is hateful

  • @itemframe2824
    @itemframe2824 2 роки тому +2

    at least 75m is accurate to the original game, being the worst level in the game

  • @WeegeeMaro
    @WeegeeMaro 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as always Alex! I hope one day you do your personal favorite Smash stages!

  • @brandonlee8123
    @brandonlee8123 3 роки тому

    New pork city is actually a really nostalgic stage to me, so i cant really hate it.
    But hanenbow...

  • @dylbill56remixes28
    @dylbill56remixes28 3 роки тому

    Man, you don't believe how happy I was to see Great Cave Offensive in this list. That stage is absolutely horrible to play on.

  • @aidanthegamer5
    @aidanthegamer5 3 роки тому

    1:15 Peach's Castle, in Japanese, is actually called "Above Peach's Castle" (ピーチ城上空), so it's mostly the translators' fault for false advertising.

  • @IAmNotYourBuddy
    @IAmNotYourBuddy 3 роки тому

    Do I hear Redial from Bomberman? You sir, are a man of culture

  • @thisisasupersayin376
    @thisisasupersayin376 3 роки тому +1

    Great Cave Offensive didn't deserve to return
    And that's a fact

  • @LukePS7013
    @LukePS7013 3 роки тому +1

    15:18
    Pacland was pretty much the first platformer, even Shigeru Miyamoto has said that Pacland was used as a base for Super Mario Bros.
    It has history, it’s just not a good stage

  • @_shadoow
    @_shadoow 3 роки тому +1

    I think peach's castle is supposed to be like the flying cap level in sm64 but you can see the castle through the clouds

  • @SoshiTheYoshi
    @SoshiTheYoshi 3 роки тому

    Honestly, I find it hysterical that the same people who say Pac-Land is bad for its gimmicks and for being a scrolling stage are the same exact people who say Pokéfloats should return, which is exactly what they said Pac-Land was.
    Though to be fair, Pac-Maze is better than Pac-Land by a long shot

  • @ellie8272
    @ellie8272 3 роки тому +1

    Yoshi's Island Melee is such a dud. But I tend to think Smash stages are pretty bad in general. Just give us some simple but unique platform layouts! The gimmicks suck imo
    The best stages are the basic ones that tournaments use

  • @theninjagamer1
    @theninjagamer1 Рік тому

    1:15 this feels like they used the stage creator in ultimate to make this stage