The weirdest bit was in one of those Chinese scenes where Tony looks directly at the camera and says “Wow I guess it is true that Hong Kong and Taiwan are part of and subject to the laws of the People’s Republic of China, all hail President Xi the magnificent!” and then just carries on like nothing happened.
My version of the movie just replaced every line with RDJ saying "Chinese Taipei". Kinda detracts from the watching experience but idk, I'm not a moviemaker
It's sad that everything has to pander to China for money. They have a no gays and no ghosts policy. Can't show them in your movies. I think they're also weird about time travel. At least they're not as bad as Russia (or they might be, idk). In Russia you're not allowed to tell children gay people exist. Litteral criminal offence.
@@jamesramplin8124 yeah, time travel, demons and poc being prominent too, remember that Disney took out Finn from the posters of the (hopefully not canon) sequel trilogy in China.
This movie always reminds me that Tony stark retired 3 times in the MCU. At the end of Iron Man 3, at the end of Age of Ultron, and then between Infinity war and Endgame.
They say people that retire die sooner than people who continue working, but in this case Tony died coming out of retirement due to work because his work involved a robot glove with space magic rocks making half his face grilled.
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 I think that’s what they were kinda going for bc he retires again after Age of Ultron and still kinda has to do that. It’s just his second retirement in 2 years so it loses a bit of its meaning. I would’ve liked it a lot if they went w the original plans of the post credit scene and going into guardians 2 w Tony using the space suit to meet up w them and he doesn’t retire until age of Ultron
@@Etticos. the first part of your comment holds a lot of merit.I've literally seen retiree's on jobsites hold there own or even work better then 20 year olds.one in particular was pretty high up in a local factory, then retired before working with us. i'd be incredibly grateful working with old man ron again.
Nah, instead they're gonna have a really faithful adaptation of the Mandarin that's genuinely intimidating and memorable... Then they're gonna reveal that that's also the fake Mandarian and the real Mandarian was the Christmas Story kid the whole time.
The real Mandarin is Iron Man's arch nemesis, who was behind the kidnapping of Tony Stark and Yinsen in South Asia, and who had the chance to kill Stark after he escaped the Wong-Chu's camp in his first armor variant, but declined, thinking of him as an insignificant man whose path will never cross his again. Too bad nobody at the MCU reads comics.
@@antona.8659 so.... how do you feel about guardians of the galaxy? How do you feel about the fact that Bucky wasn’t a child? I don’t think the comics should be the deciding factor in if the MCU is good. I love the comics but if the MCU just copy the comics then why not just read the comics? The comics are good enough. We don’t need two different marvel universes that are exactly the same.
Tony's PTSD leading to him overstocking on Iron Man suits and being hyper defensive to where he almost hurts Pepper in his sleep makes sense. Him only having the least capable Iron Man suit he's ever made on hand right after issuing a request for a duel at his house makes the opposite of sense. Also, the lack of SHIELD in this one makes it seem like the authorities just sort of shrugged when their local superhero REQUESTED a terrorist attack on his own property and had no response ready when it did happen.
I just wish they'd let Aldrich Killian be more cool. He's so cool at the beginning. So so creepy and weird - AND THEN HE JUST BECOMES A FLASH VILLAIN LOL
I wish they would have made him less of a Jim Carrey-esque caricature, as Bret mentioned, and less of a stereotypical cocky rich guy in the end. If he started out as more realistically awkward and ended as something closer to Elon Musk where he's confident and trying his best to hide who he used to be but some of that awkwardness still comes through the facade, I think that would have been pretty great. And definitely ditch the claim that he was always the Mandarin, of course. Movie fixed!
the movie is crap, that's not exactly a divisive opinion,i actually left the theater disappointed, if they were going to screw around with the extremis storyline the way they did , they should of brought back justin hammer and put him in a jacked up patriot armor for iron man and war machine to fight at the end instead of Aldrich killian. im also tired of filmmakers taking on these projects and being too pussy footed even 10 years ago to adapt characters knowing full well what they were getting into.
This and Thor: The Dark World felt like films with darker themes that then went through a rewrite to make them more "fun". The PTSD angle for instance.
I think if Ben Kingsleys twist was literally it, and after that the mandarin was left as a “if this guy isn’t the mandarin who is?” Type thing it would have worked 1000X better
I love the final fight with all the suits because it's a perfect example of advancing story through action: After spending all movie freaking out about having a suit for every possible emergency/wondering who he is without them, he goes from suit to suit, throwing them away as they break down and moving on to the next one
@@ManOfStamp38 an early Civil war foreshadowing with Ben Kinsly justifying terrorism against iron man by showing casualties cause by Iron Man in Middle East
Surely Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be a small army. They would have defeated Thanos almost immediately when it turned out Tony didn't get dusted. Universe saved.
"Surely Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be a small army." I suspect Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be fairly small, but Tony's one-night-stand corps would make Wilt Chamberlain jealous.
The skydive scene is so great because it’s so rare to get a scene like that anymore. A scene of a superhero not just saving the day by fighting the bad guys, but literally going out of their way to save a few specific people. A super hero, saving people in a super hero movie, crazy right? Super hero movies have gotten less and less of those scenes over the years, because I guess it’s not as entertaining as watching the hero beat up random henchmen. That’s a big reason I like Spider Man movies from any era, they never really lost sight of that aspect so you have multiple scenes of Spider Man saving civilians in every movie.
Ikr? Even the likes of Captain America only actually save innocent people in a coupe of their movies as they spend most rest of the time killing and punching people. That plane scene is extra satisfying if you watch The Boys before it.
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 either of these suggestions would be gold, but im really looking forward to how they explain how channing tatum and thus duke noped tf out of retaliation.
I could understand the Mark 42 being junk because it's designed to fall apart, but he should've used his "Shades" heat resistant suit in the last fight and actually beat Killian with it.
I remember thinking this felt like the final film with Iron Man when I first saw it, and with you mentioning the behind the scenes details that makes sense why. Had that not been the case I feel like they maybe should have had the reveal of the Ultron program be an end credit scene in this film. Based on how this film ends I feel like Age of Ultron would have been a lot more interesting if he didn't return as Iron Man until the third act, he's still helping the Avengers but he's more of just the tech guy, which I get isn't exactly within his character but maybe if they elaborated on the fact that he destroyed all his suits for Pepper at the end of this film, then it would make more sense that he was making a conscious effort to change for the better, only to then accidently create a bigger problem with Ultron. That would have made the Ultron program more believable for why he did it other than just his trauma from the first Avengers, and added more meaning to the end of this film, so when they reveal that Pepper left him at the beginning of Civil War it's because he went back to being Iron Man at the end of Age of Ultron. I just like the concept of Tony trying to be a better person only to get punished for it, that I think would have been an interesting arc for him in Age of Ultron since I feel that he should have shown more regret at the end of that film for creating Ultron.
What I like about Civil War is that while Tony does continue to screw up, ironically it’s Cap the paragon who makes the biggest fuck up, that ultimately splits the Avengers for real and the ramifications are still felt afterwards. Tony isn’t a saint and has many character defects but that doesn’t mean everyone else is less flawed than him. Thor despite “being worthy”’ becomes a drunken loser and Hawkeye a murdering psycho. If anything Pepper was wrong to expect Tony to just give up being Iron Man, when he’s in the suit saving people he can do mote for the world than half the Avengers combined.
When Extremisman yelled "I am the Mandarin," I always took it as meaning "I'm your enemy, I'm the one doing all the bad things..." but not as formal as I typed that.
Tony: "ima give up being ironman" Also Tony: "i tried giving up being ironman. Didn't work. I guess I'll just give up life in general" Woah that blew up thanks guys don't think I've ever got that many likes on a comment before😄
@@bobbysworld281995 considering these movies are based off old comic books and cartoons where every problem was fixed before the next issue or next week's episode, he could of done a much better job.
Having Chris Nolan be there when Maso is explaining when the armor may have left is a genius pull Ben! Also I would love to see a Ben the Editor follow up on why this is the best Ironman movie. I agree,I just would love to see the argument you make
9:54 - the reason he didn't call his suits to him earlier is because they were being dug out of the rubble covering the hall of armor entrance in his Malibu home. Jarvis alerts him during the 3rd act that they are able to deploy, and he then activates the House Party Protocol. BTW this actually might be my favorite IM movie - we did an awesom cosplay of this at Disneyland a few years back where my wife was bra and yoga pants glowing Pepper Potts with one IM glove, and I went as 'The Mechanic'. I've done many more difficult cosplays at DLand for Halloweentime (back when it was still in the main park - pre-COVID) but I think this costume set got the most love from the DLand staff. Much love!
I got a coffee the other day in a shop I've never been in before. The barista asked what I was doing for the weekend. I just said 'nothing special' and didn't ask him what he was doing. He then told me he got a pizza oven and was having a few people over...even though I didn't ask. Clearly he was *that* guy.
@@adaoraelliott9254 as an American in a state with loads of artisnal food, I rarely if ever see artisinal pizza. I certainly don't think people are buying pizza ovens en masse.
I was just talking about how much I like this movie with a coworker and I forgot that it was up for Caravan of garbage this week! I rewatched it yesterday and it did not disappoint! Can’t wait for Ben’s “why iron man 3 is the best iron man” video.
I wasn't even a fan of the comic books, and even I was let down with The Mandarin. Ben Kingsley is such a good actor to waste, and the trailers gave a great feeling of dread from this very human, but very deadly, adversary.
Some evil terrorist with little to know relation to tony stark < a guy from tony past that he wronged continuing the theme of reoccurring demons in Tony’s narrative. I much prefer the villain we got over the generic baddie we could have. Mandarin is a lame character in general.
@@derianparker5829 at least it would have been different from literally every other iron man villain including the new Spider-Man villains too. They just keep doing the same thing.
@@derianparker5829 The hero shouldn't have to know every villain personally? There is such a thing as contrasting characters who AREN'T just a dark mirror of each other? Has the superhero genre somehow lost this idea?
I didn't read the comics either, but I did look into who The Mandarin from the comics was before watching the movie. He would have been way too strong for Tony to beat, so excluding him is fine. But the implication from this movie was that Killian was the true Mandarin, which was lame.
Someone comes to Tony's house to fight and he throws a fucking piano at him. Its awesome. Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin was amazing. I hope Shang Chi follows up with her real one and we see the conclusion from the Short film with Trevor and Terrible Terry Tate meeting the real Mandarin.
Killian announcing he's The Mandarin is just him taking credit for it all, no? Like you can take it literally if you like but he's just saying, "I created this fictional terrorist...but I suppose in a way I AM THE MANDARIN....because actually it was me...behind it all"
I know the point of this video is to throw shade at the pizza oven guy... but you've inspired me. I know my new goal in life. Now, of course, I'm not a moron here. I'm thinking a subtle pizza oven, y'know? Not one that overtakes the entire space, just a humble lil pizza pie spot outside; maybe you could make other stuff with it too, who knows. Anyways, you don't sell people on coming over for the pizza party, you just tell 'em hey, we're gonna have some guys and gals over, crack a few brews, maybe have a movie going on in the background, Iron Man 3, subtitles on cause music will be involved, whatever. That's when the scheme really begins. Jazz cigarette: out, a few people join in and have a little smoko off to the side. You walk back to the main area... and you stand right next to the pizza oven. They'll be powerless to stop your machinations, someone will be compelled to ask about it. They'll crave it, hunger for it, you'll play it coy, "damn, actually I might have some fresh dough chillin in the fridge". The stoney bologneys won't know what hit 'em. Pizza in the oven. Chips and salsa comes out in the meantime. Killian Murphey is the Mandarin and we groan as we look at subtitles, but the pizza oven goes *ding* and we forget about all that. The door to the pizza oven opens and you can feel a wave of heat kiss your face as the beautiful aroma of san marzano tomatoes, bubbly cheese, savory dough, and some meaty chorizo and/or pepperoni slaps your god damn nose-buds. The stoners are salivating, the drinkers are clambering, and you're basking in the glory of a night well spent. Then you shut that motherfoxer and tell 'em a slice of pizza cost $9 and a subscription to Big Sandwich. Dave gets his slice now cause you know he's already subscribed. Be cool like Dave.
That sequence with Happy stopping Tony from committing an statutory crime while the FBI is breaking in was fucking gold. Ben (and Lawrence) you are gods.
I honestly love this movie. It is a great end to RDJ’s redemption cycle and Ironman as a character. The fact that so much involves Tony the man overcoming his stuff without Ironman was great. The themes about demons was great too until they redid it with every single follow up movie. I think that in another universe where this was the last marvel movie wrapping up the franchise it would be lauded Edit: and YES Ben Kingsley reveal is hilarious and fits the whole theme of what you show vs who you are on the inside.
JARVIS wasn't offline. The new suit just wasn't charged yet. It's literally him turning on the Protocol by saying "do it". Hell in the first Avengers, he said "deploy" to activate his new suit and had the bracelets on, and Jarvis just heard him through the walls or intercom or whatever.
Terrible movie, but not because it lacks logic. The first Iron Man doesn't have much logic, either, but it's great because of its mature tone and clean storyline, even if it doesn't survive scrutiny. IM3 is just ugly and bad. Hate it.
The best way I can describe the "I'm the Mandarin" twist would be like if when Nolan teased the Joker at the end of Batman Begins, but then did DKR and instead of Goul, Bane was hinted to work for someone else. Then DK opens up with Heath Ledger Joker and it the same just pass the nurse scene only to reveal he really was just mental patient... Then Jim Carry comes out in green spandex saying "What is a Joke, but a Riddle with a punchline?!"
I liked it -- Kingsley is great as the Mandarin but even better as Trevor Slattery. Anyway, the worst twist ever is in Identity, the 2003 James Mangold movie.
I hate this phrase.....but "you need to see more movies" since this twist was an actual risk and was like by some people. And I'm not one who likes the twist that much.
Unpopular opinion: Ironman 2 > Ironman 3…. I cannot get past the fact he has an army of suits he just leaves stored in the basement, while trekking through the snow for half the movie.
The movie points out that Jarvis is down and he was alone in the snow. He should have just used the suits, again, why didn't he defend himself after revealing his home?
"Why don't you build something?" "Why don't I build something?" "Yeah." "Do you know how many things I built since New York? I was being nagged at constantly for spending too much time building things. Also, how many Marks for the Iron Man suit I blew past between now and then? You really should have your shrink license revoked, kid." ------ Okay, they need to get Cillian Murphy into the MCU. Somebody find a role for him, asap.
As far as the standalone movies go this one is one of my favorites. Some really inventive scenes and at the time I really felt there were really stakes at play.
Here is a controversial statement: Iron Man 3 is the best one. I love that it’s over the top action (with and without the suit) mixed with good comedy and decent twists.
I actually genuinely like Iron Man 3. It's a classic Shane Black film, action and big explosions and shit you can enjoy with your brain turned off, but also a surprisingly soft and almost deep side, dealing with Tony and his traumas. I liked that they actually didn't magically solve them at the end of the movie, Tony just learns to live with them and make the best of his life.
@@li-limandragon9287 agreed, iron man 3 doesn’t look into the effects of grief though. It analyzes the impact PTSD can have on a hero. They both are great in their own way.
This is legit the best Iron Man movie lol. Tony's trauma and anxiety attacks were the main villain here, "The Mandarin" is some puny fraud because Tony's anxiety elevates seemingly benign nobodies. The fear of not knowing enough about something scares the shit outta him. "We create our own demons".
There’s a moment in which Jarvis basically tells Tony in code that something something is ready. So the “house party protocol” wasn’t operational until that moment. It’s just very hard to get, a few seconds of an AI with speech impediment saying random words. So I guess it’s more of a poor execution rather than a plot hole.
Always loved the Ben Kingsley fake Madarin angle. I also appreciate How Tony Stark without the Iron Man suit is basically MacGyver. Also, I'd be surprised if anyone can connect with me on this but I'm currently watching Fire Force and by proxy I like this movie a little better now.
The plane scene is easily one of my top fav MCU moments, especially because it shows how much Iron Man actually cares about saving lives, he does more times than the rest of the Avengers.
I like it because it makes the events of Avengers 1 feel real, the rest of the heroes walk it off like it was a difficult work day, Tony has severe PTSD like any normal man realistically would after New York.
That Pearlnutter ominous music bit got me so good. I was cry laughing the entire time and had to rewind to listen again. I'm a new sub and am very happy to have stumbled on your videos guys, you're simply hysterical!
@Steven White lol didn’t see the comment cuz I commented when I pressed play but I mean it ain’t that deep. Just joining in the fun that is this community
I'll admit tho, the scene where Tony talks to Jarvis and they say the house party protocol and the scene when you actually see what that is, are 1 of my favorite moments in the whole of the MCU. it's probably not all that iconic to most people, but by the Norse gods themselves, I do love it.
One of the things that bothered me, that wasn’t mentioned here, was the fact the President of the United States gets kidnapped by a terrorist group, and they’re going to film his death inside the Iron Patriot suit, yet only Tony Stark and Rhodey are there to stop it. No S.H.I.E.L.D., no Avengers, not even the American military.
@@kieroncampion120 I agree that they would, but it also hurts both the story and the established universe the story takes place in, when you have a major global figure like the President of the US getting kidnapped, and put on display for the whole world to see. Yet a major organization, like S.H.I.E.L.D., who would most definitely get involved in a matter like that, is not there. And I can understand Thor and Hulk not being there, but Black Widow and Hawkeye were S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, and Captain America would DEFINITELY work to try to save the President. So to have a major plot point in your story be something that would definitely call the attention of these groups, and they don't show up, not even a throw away line to explain it, hurts the story as a whole.
Agreed. I loved that it wasn't just 2 hours of Iron Man flying around in his suit fighting people. The middle section where he's dealing with the PTSD and is totally vulnerable was great character development. It's not a perfect movie or anything, but it's probably the best non-Russo-Bros Marvel movie. The Mandarin being a fake was perfect. I think I like when movies mess with fanboy expectations a bit, so maybe that biases me here.
The Real Iron Man trilogy. Iron Man 1, The Avengers, Captain America Civil War. The only movies in which you get to see Tony Stark and Iron Man be used properly.
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Oh, what you’re reviewing next week? IDK Thor, I’m watching it anyway.
Do the thor movies or I will contact my lawyers
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Reseting the numbering on the podcast again
The weirdest bit was in one of those Chinese scenes where Tony looks directly at the camera and says “Wow I guess it is true that Hong Kong and Taiwan are part of and subject to the laws of the People’s Republic of China, all hail President Xi the magnificent!” and then just carries on like nothing happened.
My version of the movie just replaced every line with RDJ saying "Chinese Taipei". Kinda detracts from the watching experience but idk, I'm not a moviemaker
I haven't seen this movie in such a long time that I legit thought this actually happened for a second lmao 🤣
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It's sad that everything has to pander to China for money. They have a no gays and no ghosts policy. Can't show them in your movies. I think they're also weird about time travel.
At least they're not as bad as Russia (or they might be, idk). In Russia you're not allowed to tell children gay people exist. Litteral criminal offence.
@@jamesramplin8124 yeah, time travel, demons and poc being prominent too, remember that Disney took out Finn from the posters of the (hopefully not canon) sequel trilogy in China.
This movie always reminds me that Tony stark retired 3 times in the MCU. At the end of Iron Man 3, at the end of Age of Ultron, and then between Infinity war and Endgame.
They say people that retire die sooner than people who continue working, but in this case Tony died coming out of retirement due to work because his work involved a robot glove with space magic rocks making half his face grilled.
This movie would fit better at the end of phase 2 so he has to come out of retirement to stop Steve Rogers in civil war
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 I think that’s what they were kinda going for bc he retires again after Age of Ultron and still kinda has to do that. It’s just his second retirement in 2 years so it loses a bit of its meaning. I would’ve liked it a lot if they went w the original plans of the post credit scene and going into guardians 2 w Tony using the space suit to meet up w them and he doesn’t retire until age of Ultron
And then in death
@@Etticos. the first part of your comment holds a lot of merit.I've literally seen retiree's on jobsites hold there own or even work better then 20 year olds.one in particular was pretty high up in a local factory, then retired before working with us. i'd be incredibly grateful working with old man ron again.
Can’t wait for Shang chi to reveal that the mandarin was actually Happy Hogan the whole time
It’s Happy’s secret evil twin brother, Sad Hogan
@@videogamenostalgia and now thanks to the multiverse they can meet their radioactive variant Hulk Hogan
Nah, instead they're gonna have a really faithful adaptation of the Mandarin that's genuinely intimidating and memorable...
Then they're gonna reveal that that's also the fake Mandarian and the real Mandarian was the Christmas Story kid the whole time.
@@videogamenostalgia His name would literally be Fake Happy
Abomination was The Mandarin the whole time!
When James said Yinsen’s corpse should’ve been one of the people in the iron man suits I could not stop laughing.
With this clearly being a christmas movie I think it would make perfect sense if Yinsen was the ghost of suits past.
The real Mandarin was Ike Perlmutter
I can just see him screaming that at Kevin feige on his way out the door
The real Mandarin was the pearls Ike Perlmutter muttered along the way
Ohhh noooOoOoOoo, that means Ike Perlmutter is Shang-Chi’s dad.
The real Mandarin is Iron Man's arch nemesis, who was behind the kidnapping of Tony Stark and Yinsen in South Asia, and who had the chance to kill Stark after he escaped the Wong-Chu's camp in his first armor variant, but declined, thinking of him as an insignificant man whose path will never cross his again. Too bad nobody at the MCU reads comics.
@@antona.8659 so.... how do you feel about guardians of the galaxy? How do you feel about the fact that Bucky wasn’t a child? I don’t think the comics should be the deciding factor in if the MCU is good. I love the comics but if the MCU just copy the comics then why not just read the comics? The comics are good enough. We don’t need two different marvel universes that are exactly the same.
Tony's PTSD leading to him overstocking on Iron Man suits and being hyper defensive to where he almost hurts Pepper in his sleep makes sense. Him only having the least capable Iron Man suit he's ever made on hand right after issuing a request for a duel at his house makes the opposite of sense. Also, the lack of SHIELD in this one makes it seem like the authorities just sort of shrugged when their local superhero REQUESTED a terrorist attack on his own property and had no response ready when it did happen.
Not here trying to be argumentative, but wasn’t SHIELD out of the picture because of what happened in CA: Winter Soldier?
@@broomhilder No, because Cap 2 takes place after Iron Man 3. It was released after and no timeline I've seen has ever placed it earlier.
I just wish they'd let Aldrich Killian be more cool. He's so cool at the beginning. So so creepy and weird - AND THEN HE JUST BECOMES A FLASH VILLAIN LOL
At the beginning of the movie he was literally Jim Carey's Riddler.
Remember that time your tv said working for a bit? IT WAS ME TONY!
I wish they would have made him less of a Jim Carrey-esque caricature, as Bret mentioned, and less of a stereotypical cocky rich guy in the end. If he started out as more realistically awkward and ended as something closer to Elon Musk where he's confident and trying his best to hide who he used to be but some of that awkwardness still comes through the facade, I think that would have been pretty great. And definitely ditch the claim that he was always the Mandarin, of course. Movie fixed!
@@bretsheeley4034 who later became Jamie Fox’s Electro, but this is before before Kristen Wiig’s Cheetah.
the movie is crap, that's not exactly a divisive opinion,i actually left the theater disappointed, if they were going to screw around with the extremis storyline the way they did , they should of brought back justin hammer and put him in a jacked up patriot armor for iron man and war machine to fight at the end instead of Aldrich killian.
im also tired of filmmakers taking on these projects and being too pussy footed even 10 years ago to adapt characters knowing full well what they were getting into.
Those chinese exclusive scenes are the most Disney things I've ever heard lmao
The most *American* thing.
All movie studios appease China because nobody has enough money to go see movies anymore and China's a big market.
no also disney is a usa
@@changsiah2 + 15 social credits
My favorite part of the movie was when they revealed that the Mandarin was really Corn of Coblin
Same
You sir win for that reference
Oh mate! When Shane Black did that, it really subverted my expectations!
He wouldn't have been able to breathe fire though, he'd become popcorn on the coblin
It's always Corn Of Coblin!
This and Thor: The Dark World felt like films with darker themes that then went through a rewrite to make them more "fun". The PTSD angle for instance.
I think if Ben Kingsleys twist was literally it, and after that the mandarin was left as a “if this guy isn’t the mandarin who is?” Type thing it would have worked 1000X better
Feel the same way.
I mean to be fair I always took Guy Pearce screaming at the as like just delusional because he just exploded and he’s clearly not with it
Why would someone invent a fictional Mandarin if they were just the Mandarin?
@@SeanS102 well it’s the classic prank isn’t it?
@@SeanS102 his whole shtick was being the puppetmaster from behind the scenes, but he still needed a face and a voice to stay out of the spotlight.
21:18 Well… that aged brilliantly.
I was just getting ready to comment about this
Last time I was this early Cillian Murphy was still the Mandarin
Last time I was this early Cillian Murphy was still Batman
I love the final fight with all the suits because it's a perfect example of advancing story through action: After spending all movie freaking out about having a suit for every possible emergency/wondering who he is without them, he goes from suit to suit, throwing them away as they break down and moving on to the next one
3:11 oh god, he left Cillian Murphy on the roof right next to Aldrich Killian? That's a dastardly team up!
Yeah I noticed that aswell haha , only one has creepy eyes though
I've never caught that
Well he kinda did in Oppenheimer. James can see the future!
ProZD in a Mr Sunday Movies video; the most ambitious crossover since Endgame.
The Ben Kingsley twist was great, the problem was that instead of the bad guy being the real Mandarin, it was some fire breathing nerd.
Nerdy Memento.
LOL
That's the main thing people neglect to mention when defending the movie. I don't even dislike it that much, but the villain was too weak.
I was excited to see the Osama Ben Kingsley thing, and then it turned out to be a fucking lie.
@@ManOfStamp38 an early Civil war foreshadowing with Ben Kinsly justifying terrorism against iron man by showing casualties cause by Iron Man in Middle East
So.. When is Ben's video on IM3 coming out? I could feel his blood boiling behind the edits.
Haha, yes I loved salty Ben’s passive aggressive comments. We should have that every time James had a Bad Opinion (pretty much every video tbh…)
my favorite part was when they revealed that the mandarin was john krasinski
Wrong film;)
Did anyone else notice James calling Aldrich Killian "Cillian Murphy?"
The real Mandarin was the friends we made along the way
Damn it.
The real friends was the Mandarin 我们一路上学到了
The real mandarin was family
I was going to write that!
The real Mandarin is the language that the scary owl teaches people
Surely Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be a small army.
They would have defeated Thanos almost immediately when it turned out Tony didn't get dusted. Universe saved.
"Surely Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be a small army."
I suspect Tony's ex-girlfriend corps would be fairly small, but Tony's one-night-stand corps would make Wilt Chamberlain jealous.
It’ll be funny if each suit has a streetwalker in it.
I never noticed how his beard connects to his sideburns in this movie before. Damn you guys.
Yeah, it’s bad
It looks horrible
The skydive scene is so great because it’s so rare to get a scene like that anymore. A scene of a superhero not just saving the day by fighting the bad guys, but literally going out of their way to save a few specific people. A super hero, saving people in a super hero movie, crazy right? Super hero movies have gotten less and less of those scenes over the years, because I guess it’s not as entertaining as watching the hero beat up random henchmen.
That’s a big reason I like Spider Man movies from any era, they never really lost sight of that aspect so you have multiple scenes of Spider Man saving civilians in every movie.
Ikr? Even the likes of Captain America only actually save innocent people in a coupe of their movies as they spend most rest of the time killing and punching people. That plane scene is extra satisfying if you watch The Boys before it.
The next caravan of garbage should be for the Legend of Zorro movies...
Ben keeps teasing us with the lord of the rings trilogy caravan of garbage I’ve been waiting 27 years for
I think it might be the G.I. Joe movies
@@connercone that’s a lot man, let it go u.u
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 either of these suggestions would be gold, but im really looking forward to how they explain how channing tatum and thus duke noped tf out of retaliation.
Isn't there just one?
Well this aged well, RDJ is back in the MCU 😂
The thing I don't like about this is how easily his suits break
Meanwhile in Iron Man 1, he was tanking high caliber rounds from an F-22. 🤣
@@PittsburghSonido Budgetary constraints...not selling weapons anymore
Yeah I think that was because RDJ was really fed up with wearing the suit at this point
I could understand the Mark 42 being junk because it's designed to fall apart, but he should've used his "Shades" heat resistant suit in the last fight and actually beat Killian with it.
The easily breakable suit protect Tony from being a Mary Sue.
I remember thinking this felt like the final film with Iron Man when I first saw it, and with you mentioning the behind the scenes details that makes sense why. Had that not been the case I feel like they maybe should have had the reveal of the Ultron program be an end credit scene in this film.
Based on how this film ends I feel like Age of Ultron would have been a lot more interesting if he didn't return as Iron Man until the third act, he's still helping the Avengers but he's more of just the tech guy, which I get isn't exactly within his character but maybe if they elaborated on the fact that he destroyed all his suits for Pepper at the end of this film, then it would make more sense that he was making a conscious effort to change for the better, only to then accidently create a bigger problem with Ultron. That would have made the Ultron program more believable for why he did it other than just his trauma from the first Avengers, and added more meaning to the end of this film, so when they reveal that Pepper left him at the beginning of Civil War it's because he went back to being Iron Man at the end of Age of Ultron. I just like the concept of Tony trying to be a better person only to get punished for it, that I think would have been an interesting arc for him in Age of Ultron since I feel that he should have shown more regret at the end of that film for creating Ultron.
What I like about Civil War is that while Tony does continue to screw up, ironically it’s Cap the paragon who makes the biggest fuck up, that ultimately splits the Avengers for real and the ramifications are still felt afterwards.
Tony isn’t a saint and has many character defects but that doesn’t mean everyone else is less flawed than him. Thor despite “being worthy”’ becomes a drunken loser and Hawkeye a murdering psycho. If anything Pepper was wrong to expect Tony to just give up being Iron Man, when he’s in the suit saving people he can do mote for the world than half the Avengers combined.
When Extremisman yelled "I am the Mandarin," I always took it as meaning "I'm your enemy, I'm the one doing all the bad things..." but not as formal as I typed that.
Indeed, but that doesn’t really make it any less lame.
I can hear James shout "I am the Mandarin!' a thousand times and it's still going to make me smile every time.
Tony: "ima give up being ironman"
Also Tony: "i tried giving up being ironman. Didn't work. I guess I'll just give up life in general"
Woah that blew up thanks guys don't think I've ever got that many likes on a comment before😄
Joss famous ranted about how the fuck was he gonna reintroduce Iron Man now.
Ike Perlmutter made collaboration or talks between creatives impossible.
@@bobbysworld281995 considering these movies are based off old comic books and cartoons where every problem was fixed before the next issue or next week's episode, he could of done a much better job.
Having Chris Nolan be there when Maso is explaining when the armor may have left is a genius pull Ben!
Also I would love to see a Ben the Editor follow up on why this is the best Ironman movie. I agree,I just would love to see the argument you make
I cant wait to hear all the great things James loves about Iron Man 3.
9:54 - the reason he didn't call his suits to him earlier is because they were being dug out of the rubble covering the hall of armor entrance in his Malibu home. Jarvis alerts him during the 3rd act that they are able to deploy, and he then activates the House Party Protocol. BTW this actually might be my favorite IM movie - we did an awesom cosplay of this at Disneyland a few years back where my wife was bra and yoga pants glowing Pepper Potts with one IM glove, and I went as 'The Mechanic'. I've done many more difficult cosplays at DLand for Halloweentime (back when it was still in the main park - pre-COVID) but I think this costume set got the most love from the DLand staff. Much love!
Love the pizza oven shade thrown. We all know *that* guy who decided to become the artisan pizza guy.
I’m laughing then realized I’m that guy 😔
I got a coffee the other day in a shop I've never been in before. The barista asked what I was doing for the weekend. I just said 'nothing special' and didn't ask him what he was doing. He then told me he got a pizza oven and was having a few people over...even though I didn't ask. Clearly he was *that* guy.
Is artisan pizza just super popular in Australia?
@@blitz8425 It's popular in all white english speaking countries
@@adaoraelliott9254 as an American in a state with loads of artisnal food, I rarely if ever see artisinal pizza. I certainly don't think people are buying pizza ovens en masse.
I liked how the final fight wasn't between two dudes with similar abilities. Just Ironman using his tech against a super powered Aldrich Killian.
Ben's little editor's notes are how I ALWAYS feel when dunces are dunking on something they didn't pay enough attention to. Love you Ben ♥️
I still disagree with him on Civil War tho, he suggests the movie makes you side with Cap but I don’t think that’s true especially at the end.
It's like watching a Game Grumps episode
I was just talking about how much I like this movie with a coworker and I forgot that it was up for Caravan of garbage this week! I rewatched it yesterday and it did not disappoint!
Can’t wait for Ben’s “why iron man 3 is the best iron man” video.
If you keep saying “I am man” for 10 times really fast , it will sound like iron man
No it doesn’t, bib
@@connorroberts6856 yeah it does, as it should.
yeah but with a boston accent
Amaman amaman amaman
"I'M A MAN!" *punch*
Now it’s time for the National Treasure movies to be Caravan of Garbage’d
Yes! I would genuinely love that!
I didn't realise Guy Pearce and Cillian Murphy was the same person
Oh...
James isn't a *_Chuffed Dad?_*
I wasn't even a fan of the comic books, and even I was let down with The Mandarin. Ben Kingsley is such a good actor to waste, and the trailers gave a great feeling of dread from this very human, but very deadly, adversary.
Some evil terrorist with little to know relation to tony stark < a guy from tony past that he wronged continuing the theme of reoccurring demons in Tony’s narrative. I much prefer the villain we got over the generic baddie we could have. Mandarin is a lame character in general.
Ben Kingsley did such a good job as a terrifying villain, that it was a slap in the face to dumb him down that way.
@@derianparker5829 at least it would have been different from literally every other iron man villain including the new Spider-Man villains too. They just keep doing the same thing.
@@derianparker5829 The hero shouldn't have to know every villain personally? There is such a thing as contrasting characters who AREN'T just a dark mirror of each other? Has the superhero genre somehow lost this idea?
I didn't read the comics either, but I did look into who The Mandarin from the comics was before watching the movie. He would have been way too strong for Tony to beat, so excluding him is fine. But the implication from this movie was that Killian was the true Mandarin, which was lame.
Someone comes to Tony's house to fight and he throws a fucking piano at him. Its awesome.
Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin was amazing. I hope Shang Chi follows up with her real one and we see the conclusion from the Short film with Trevor and Terrible Terry Tate meeting the real Mandarin.
Jarvis was shut down for most of the movie, while he’s running about in the snow. That’s why he couldn’t call the other suits
Jarvis wasn’t out of power when Tony was just chilling at his house after threatening the Mandarin
Killian announcing he's The Mandarin is just him taking credit for it all, no? Like you can take it literally if you like but he's just saying, "I created this fictional terrorist...but I suppose in a way I AM THE MANDARIN....because actually it was me...behind it all"
I know the point of this video is to throw shade at the pizza oven guy... but you've inspired me. I know my new goal in life.
Now, of course, I'm not a moron here. I'm thinking a subtle pizza oven, y'know? Not one that overtakes the entire space, just a humble lil pizza pie spot outside; maybe you could make other stuff with it too, who knows. Anyways, you don't sell people on coming over for the pizza party, you just tell 'em hey, we're gonna have some guys and gals over, crack a few brews, maybe have a movie going on in the background, Iron Man 3, subtitles on cause music will be involved, whatever. That's when the scheme really begins. Jazz cigarette: out, a few people join in and have a little smoko off to the side. You walk back to the main area... and you stand right next to the pizza oven. They'll be powerless to stop your machinations, someone will be compelled to ask about it. They'll crave it, hunger for it, you'll play it coy, "damn, actually I might have some fresh dough chillin in the fridge". The stoney bologneys won't know what hit 'em. Pizza in the oven. Chips and salsa comes out in the meantime. Killian Murphey is the Mandarin and we groan as we look at subtitles, but the pizza oven goes *ding* and we forget about all that. The door to the pizza oven opens and you can feel a wave of heat kiss your face as the beautiful aroma of san marzano tomatoes, bubbly cheese, savory dough, and some meaty chorizo and/or pepperoni slaps your god damn nose-buds. The stoners are salivating, the drinkers are clambering, and you're basking in the glory of a night well spent.
Then you shut that motherfoxer and tell 'em a slice of pizza cost $9 and a subscription to Big Sandwich. Dave gets his slice now cause you know he's already subscribed. Be cool like Dave.
I’m glad Ben edited in some places to make some slight corrections to what you guys missed in the plot lol. Love it
"He has that PTSD that he has to like, get over in like 2 hours" lol
That sequence with Happy stopping Tony from committing an statutory crime while the FBI is breaking in was fucking gold. Ben (and Lawrence) you are gods.
I honestly love this movie. It is a great end to RDJ’s redemption cycle and Ironman as a character. The fact that so much involves Tony the man overcoming his stuff without Ironman was great. The themes about demons was great too until they redid it with every single follow up movie.
I think that in another universe where this was the last marvel movie wrapping up the franchise it would be lauded
Edit: and YES Ben Kingsley reveal is hilarious and fits the whole theme of what you show vs who you are on the inside.
Go watch Lethal Weapon 3 instead.
He can’t do the House Party Protocol after the attack on his house because JARVIS is offline.
And the cranes havent cleared the debris yet
JARVIS wasn't offline. The new suit just wasn't charged yet. It's literally him turning on the Protocol by saying "do it".
Hell in the first Avengers, he said "deploy" to activate his new suit and had the bracelets on, and Jarvis just heard him through the walls or intercom or whatever.
Terrible movie, but not because it lacks logic. The first Iron Man doesn't have much logic, either, but it's great because of its mature tone and clean storyline, even if it doesn't survive scrutiny. IM3 is just ugly and bad. Hate it.
Yup. There's that whole scene of him losing his connection to JARVIS too when he crash lands
@@powerhour5823 the OP comment very clearly says “after the attack”
I feel like a lot of the "We don't wanna touch The Mandarin" was less about him being weird and silly and more about the racism
The best way I can describe the "I'm the Mandarin" twist would be like if when Nolan teased the Joker at the end of Batman Begins, but then did DKR and instead of Goul, Bane was hinted to work for someone else.
Then DK opens up with Heath Ledger Joker and it the same just pass the nurse scene only to reveal he really was just mental patient...
Then Jim Carry comes out in green spandex saying "What is a Joke, but a Riddle with a punchline?!"
Riddler saying that actually seems like something he might say - nice wordplay! Though I see what you're getting at.
The Ben Kingsley reveal is the worst twist in any movie ever. No one will convince me otherwise.
I liked it -- Kingsley is great as the Mandarin but even better as Trevor Slattery. Anyway, the worst twist ever is in Identity, the 2003 James Mangold movie.
@@echidna8159 This statement did not convince me.
I hate this phrase.....but "you need to see more movies" since this twist was an actual risk and was like by some people. And I'm not one who likes the twist that much.
@Dan Greene
Planet of the Apes 2001 says hi.
@@bobbysworld281995 Nope. That didn't convince me either. Still the worst.
Thank you editor for saying the things that the comment section really wants to as they're getting things wrong lol.
“I think it’s pronounced mavel”
W H E N ‘ S
M A H V E L
It’s mahvel baby!
@@timewizard7868 TWO EXTREMELY HOT BISEXUAL GIRLS
This movie would be improved by Woolie with a big robotic wife arm doing combos on iron man suits
This was a jarring crossover. Somehow James and Maso and the members of SBFP exist in totally different universes in my mind
This is such a bittersweet comment 💔
Time traveler Loki: *Sneezes*
Thanos: I am inevitable.
Killian: And I am... THE MANDARIN! _snaps fingers_
“You left Cillian Murphy on the roof and now he’s a dragon man!”
the crusty demons having stark repulsers in their bikes would be epic.
Iron Man should've had a clean shave in 1999 since he had no beard in the photos in Iron Man 1.
That suit is going 92,495 km/h. The fastest commerical airliner in the world, the Boeing 747-8i only goes 1,060 km/h
Can't wait for the in-depth Ben video on why Iron Man 3 is the best Iron Man movie
I’m not a fan of the Ben Kingsley twist but he plays both characters really well
Problem is, he played the Mandarin so well that the reveal too away the genuine menace he had before.
Pizza Oven AND a Daytona Arcade?!?!!?!?!? Aim for the stars my friend... Don't let those dreams be JUST dreams!!! LOL
Every time one of you says “Go on” I smile cause I know something good is coming lol
Unpopular opinion: Ironman 2 > Ironman 3…. I cannot get past the fact he has an army of suits he just leaves stored in the basement, while trekking through the snow for half the movie.
The movie points out that Jarvis is down and he was alone in the snow. He should have just used the suits, again, why didn't he defend himself after revealing his home?
The airforce one crew rescue is one of the best action scenes in MCU.
Also one of the handful of times we see heroes actually save people instead of just fighting.
@@li-limandragon9287 in entire avengers trilogy they save people
Yes! And nearly as good as the Monaco race fight with Whiplash in Iron Man 2
Some really great stuff in the Iron Man trilogy
"Why don't you build something?"
"Why don't I build something?"
"Yeah."
"Do you know how many things I built since New York? I was being nagged at constantly for spending too much time building things. Also, how many Marks for the Iron Man suit I blew past between now and then? You really should have your shrink license revoked, kid."
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Okay, they need to get Cillian Murphy into the MCU. Somebody find a role for him, asap.
As far as the standalone movies go this one is one of my favorites. Some really inventive scenes and at the time I really felt there were really stakes at play.
I did like that Tony had PTSD from the battle of New York like a normal human would have.
Hello James and Mason please have a nice comment to trick the youtube algorithm
Both the algorithm and Mason thanks you
@@mrsundaymovies but not James or Mrs Sunday Movies.
No definitely not
“They were buried under rubble. But it’s fine I’m not mad.” That was amazing!
Here is a controversial statement: Iron Man 3 is the best one. I love that it’s over the top action (with and without the suit) mixed with good comedy and decent twists.
I agree with Ben, this is indeed the best Iron Man movie
I actually genuinely like Iron Man 3. It's a classic Shane Black film, action and big explosions and shit you can enjoy with your brain turned off, but also a surprisingly soft and almost deep side, dealing with Tony and his traumas. I liked that they actually didn't magically solve them at the end of the movie, Tony just learns to live with them and make the best of his life.
This movie is far and away the Best example of the MCU actually showing the mental consequences of being a superhero.
WandaVision deals with grief pretty well I think.
@@li-limandragon9287 agreed, iron man 3 doesn’t look into the effects of grief though. It analyzes the impact PTSD can have on a hero. They both are great in their own way.
waiting for the eventual ben from canada "why i love ironman 3" (please make this happen)
This is legit the best Iron Man movie lol. Tony's trauma and anxiety attacks were the main villain here, "The Mandarin" is some puny fraud because Tony's anxiety elevates seemingly benign nobodies. The fear of not knowing enough about something scares the shit outta him. "We create our own demons".
There’s a moment in which Jarvis basically tells Tony in code that something something is ready. So the “house party protocol” wasn’t operational until that moment. It’s just very hard to get, a few seconds of an AI with speech impediment saying random words. So I guess it’s more of a poor execution rather than a plot hole.
Ben really snuck in a "but AaCHEWally 🤓" in the edit, Jeez.
Every time I watch “Iron Man 3,” I like it more and more. I love the Mandarin twist as well.
It's how I feel about the Matrix Reloaded
9:55 also Jarvis was offline because the suit ran out of power
7:00 I enjoy the fact that actor Scoot McNairy gets a shout-out.
that freeze frame of ben defending this movie is me defending this movie to my friends sigh i feel u ben
Drinking very heavily. That’s is what people are doing at the EPCOT center.
Always loved the Ben Kingsley fake Madarin angle. I also appreciate How Tony Stark without the Iron Man suit is basically MacGyver. Also, I'd be surprised if anyone can connect with me on this but I'm currently watching Fire Force and by proxy I like this movie a little better now.
the sky dive scene really is awesome, though. I’ve grown to appreciate this movie a little more, over the years.
The plane scene is easily one of my top fav MCU moments, especially because it shows how much Iron Man actually cares about saving lives, he does more times than the rest of the Avengers.
"you left Cillian Murphy on the roof".... Something's wrong, I can feel it
I’m with Ben, this is the best Iron Man movie, it definitely holds up the best so many years later.
I like it because it makes the events of Avengers 1 feel real, the rest of the heroes walk it off like it was a difficult work day, Tony has severe PTSD like any normal man realistically would after New York.
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That Pearlnutter ominous music bit got me so good. I was cry laughing the entire time and had to rewind to listen again. I'm a new sub and am very happy to have stumbled on your videos guys, you're simply hysterical!
The real mandarin was the friends we made along the way
@Steven White lol didn’t see the comment cuz I commented when I pressed play but I mean it ain’t that deep. Just joining in the fun that is this community
I'll admit tho, the scene where Tony talks to Jarvis and they say the house party protocol and the scene when you actually see what that is, are 1 of my favorite moments in the whole of the MCU.
it's probably not all that iconic to most people, but by the Norse gods themselves, I do love it.
11:11 It’s actually Malibu not Miami so it’s even longer (about 3.5 hours)
Miami is where he went to find the Mandarin to find out he's Slattery.
One of the things that bothered me, that wasn’t mentioned here, was the fact the President of the United States gets kidnapped by a terrorist group, and they’re going to film his death inside the Iron Patriot suit, yet only Tony Stark and Rhodey are there to stop it. No S.H.I.E.L.D., no Avengers, not even the American military.
S.H.E.I.L.D. and the Avengers would undercut the story.
@@kieroncampion120 I agree that they would, but it also hurts both the story and the established universe the story takes place in, when you have a major global figure like the President of the US getting kidnapped, and put on display for the whole world to see. Yet a major organization, like S.H.I.E.L.D., who would most definitely get involved in a matter like that, is not there. And I can understand Thor and Hulk not being there, but Black Widow and Hawkeye were S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, and Captain America would DEFINITELY work to try to save the President. So to have a major plot point in your story be something that would definitely call the attention of these groups, and they don't show up, not even a throw away line to explain it, hurts the story as a whole.
This is the best Iron Man movie for me, and one of my favourite MCU movies - Ben is right
Agreed. I loved that it wasn't just 2 hours of Iron Man flying around in his suit fighting people. The middle section where he's dealing with the PTSD and is totally vulnerable was great character development. It's not a perfect movie or anything, but it's probably the best non-Russo-Bros Marvel movie. The Mandarin being a fake was perfect. I think I like when movies mess with fanboy expectations a bit, so maybe that biases me here.
It looks like crap and is a weak rehash of the Lethal Weapon movies.
The Real Iron Man trilogy. Iron Man 1, The Avengers, Captain America Civil War. The only movies in which you get to see Tony Stark and Iron Man be used properly.
There’s some great moments, but the bad parts rlly hurt it overall
There’s a lot of moments like that in MCU movies, I really liked the Black Widow film but a few of its choices near the end really hurt it.
20:12 one of the best bits of editing I've seen