Thank you! I’m loving them! At first I had all black anthem off roads picked out, and BF Goodrich KO2s, but after some research and thought out into it, I decided in this combo. I believe the Nitto ridge grapplers are generally better tires, and these black rhinos look more subtle and less kind of like “BAM” in your face. I like them so much I’m glad I went with these! Thanks for watching!
I have the ADO Fox kit with the parabolic leaf springs. It's pretty good, maybe not worth nearly $3k, but good. I'd check out the Dobinson kit or even I think there maybe an OME(old man emu) kit. Also, with the parabolic leaf springs, make sure you have some (250-400lbs) in the bed, or it's kinda stiff and rides a bit high in the back. Those wheels look nice.
Awesome info, I was considering that exact setup, fox 2.0 and parabolic, so I appreciate the information! Dobinson 3 inch lift does look really nice, love the greasable fittings too! And thanks man! I’m loving the wheel tire combo!
I used a cheesy spring compressor off of Amazon at first. As I compressed the stock spring the spring compressor started to bend. I got concerned and decided to stop and get help from a buddy. He had a different style spring compressor but same concept. (Long bolt with hooks on each side , grabs the spring and compresses it as you tighten the bolt). We used 2 spring compressors, one on each side going a bit at a time to make sure one didn’t get ahead of the other one. Eventually you can remove the shock from the spring once it’s compressed enough. Then you compress the new spring enough to fit the shock into it. Be mindful about the alignment of our shock. You have to make sure it will mount back up the same way. It was a difficult ordeal for me and I will likely never buy suspension that isn’t already pre assembled ever again due to that part right there. I would have filmed it but we were literally concerned for our safety the whole time and it was too intense to try and film at that moment. Hope that helps, be really careful. Or honestly take it to a shop for that part. They have a much bigger tool set up that makes it easier and safer.
First video of 3. This video covers the front suspension, video 2 will be the rear suspension, and video 3 will be the cutting and trimming I had to do to fit the tires 😅
I have a 2020 Frontier crew 4x4…did you have any issues with the tires rubbing since you went from a 265 stock to 285 width? I was not aware of CBC “coil buckets contact” using levelers. I am having the RCKilla kit installed to resolve that issue. Thanks for sharing brother!
@@erwinfelix2239 thanks for asking, so it depends on the offset of your wheels, if you are keeping the stock wheels I believe they have a +35mm offset (might want to double check that to be sure) and the wheels I bought have a 0mm offset, meaning they stick out further away from the center of the vehicle than the stock wheels. That creates different geometry that results in more rubbing. I believe you would have slight rubbing with stock wheels, I had considerable rubbing and had to cut my pinch welds and heat up and move plastic liners to avoid rubbing with my 285s. It’s also good to keep in mind that different brand tires may say they are the same size but may be slightly smaller or bigger than other brands that claim the same size. Usually you can find exact measurements fairly easily. Also about the coil bucket contact, the best way to avoid it is getting upper control arms. I got the All Dogs Off-road upper control arms, they provide a wider clearance over stock and will allow your suspension to travel to full droop without having coil bucket contact. I love my 285s I’d say go for it, and don’t be afraid to do a little cutting / grinding / melting if you need too. Just paint over cut metal pieces to avoid rust. I have footage of what I did to fit mine if you wanna check out part 3! Best of luck and feel free to hit me up if you have any other questions, I’ll answer when I have time. I love to help out the community!
Got another question? I don’t want to add a leveling kit from rough country or the nismo. I was thinking of just adding the front spring only like you added. Would I need to replace the upper control arm as well? I’m not thinking of changing my wheels or stock tires anytime soon. Just want the front end to look a bit higher than the rear.
@@tonyj9502 so spacers create an extra 2 inches of lift by adding space between the top of your shock and the coil bucket. The RC killa springs create 2 inches by being 2 inches longer in total over the stock springs. But if you think about it, the geometry of your suspension has essentially undergone the same change, and I believe will present the same coil bucket contact issue unless you get aftermarket UCAs that provide clearance at full droop. Now, I believe it depends on what your goals are with your truck. Will you be doing off roading? Or are you mostly driving on the streets and just want a nice leveled look for the truck? I’d say if you’re off roading you may want to consider getting aftermarket UCAs, if not than I wouldn’t worry too much about the coil bucket contact, it will only happen when hitting speed bumps at higher speeds, pot holes, etc. Another thing to consider is the spacers don’t change the force of the springs ability to rebound but the RC killa springs make your suspension rebound with much more force, and when your suspension rebounds and goes to full droop is when you will have coil bucket contact, so I think if your just going for the leveled look and mostly driving on the street , a spacer might be better honestly, because the RC killa spring is gonna launch that wheel to full droop in any conditions where there’s no weight on the front wheels. TLDR: if off roading get Upper control arms If not , just get spacers and stock UCA
What's the purpose of replacing upper control arms? They don't mention it on their website, unlike some other products that may induce the dreaded hitting...
The factory upper control arms come into contact with the coil bucket at full droop, and some suspension lift kits change the geometry of your suspension enough that it increases the chances of having that same issue. After market upper control arms are shaped wider to prevent coil bucket contact , and are also generally more robust. Based off my knowledge I decided it would be best to go ahead and get upper control arms since I would be lifting 2 inches and getting heavier / bigger wheels and tires. They are an improvement from factory that’s for sure. Every build is different, you may decide you don’t need them, but I personally think it’s a good choice to get them. All dogs off road makes a good UCA and so does Z1 off-road
I definitely needed an alignment. I went and got one the next day. You could visually see that one wheel was straight and the other was crooked by like a half inch lol you could feel it while driving too. But apart from the alignment I haven’t had any issues. Great question thanks for watching!
@@ApexFrontier thanks a lot for your reply! I’m sent an email to ADO twice with that question and still haven’t receive a response. I need to order my suspension kit this week for an upcoming trip in April!
It lifts the front 2 inches and the rear 1.5 inches. I thought I mentioned it in the video but perhaps I didn’t. It’s mentioned in the description of the lift kit too if you go to all dogs off-road website. It doesn’t level it, it keeps a slight camber but it’s slightly more leveled than stock. With this lift plus the larger tires, my truck is overall 3 inches higher off the ground than it was stock. Stock tires are 31s, and I put 33s on, gives you 1 inch in lift
I don’t know haven’t been to the dealership since I bought it lol 😂 I’d assume it probably affects certain things, but I wouldn’t expect my engine to not be covered anymore and stuff like that
This is the exact setup that I’m looking for. Thanks for sharing your build. Looking forward to seeing the final result!
Awesome! Glad I could be helpful! I’m working on getting the rest edited and uploaded, will be soon!
Thanks for watching 🙏
Final video just posted if you wanna see it 😁
Pretty big job for a rookie to handle. Good job, and good selection of parts.
Thanks bro! Satisfying tackling stuff I’ve never done. And I learned so much along the way 🤘
Sweet wheel and tire combo
Thank you! I’m loving them! At first I had all black anthem off roads picked out, and BF Goodrich KO2s, but after some research and thought out into it, I decided in this combo. I believe the Nitto ridge grapplers are generally better tires, and these black rhinos look more subtle and less kind of like “BAM” in your face. I like them so much I’m glad I went with these! Thanks for watching!
Truck looks great! And nice MT-07!
Thanks I appreciate that! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I have the ADO Fox kit with the parabolic leaf springs. It's pretty good, maybe not worth nearly $3k, but good. I'd check out the Dobinson kit or even I think there maybe an OME(old man emu) kit. Also, with the parabolic leaf springs, make sure you have some (250-400lbs) in the bed, or it's kinda stiff and rides a bit high in the back. Those wheels look nice.
Awesome info, I was considering that exact setup, fox 2.0 and parabolic, so I appreciate the information! Dobinson 3 inch lift does look really nice, love the greasable fittings too! And thanks man! I’m loving the wheel tire combo!
Don't forget to re aim those headlights after messing with the suspension!
Looks bad ass
Thanks bro!
I'm realizing how bad the sound mixing is, I'm getting better at editing and will do better in the future 😅
How’d you end up putting the new spring onto the strut, you mentioned taking it to your buddy’s place but how’d that turn out overall?
I used a cheesy spring compressor off of Amazon at first. As I compressed the stock spring the spring compressor started to bend. I got concerned and decided to stop and get help from a buddy. He had a different style spring compressor but same concept. (Long bolt with hooks on each side , grabs the spring and compresses it as you tighten the bolt). We used 2 spring compressors, one on each side going a bit at a time to make sure one didn’t get ahead of the other one. Eventually you can remove the shock from the spring once it’s compressed enough. Then you compress the new spring enough to fit the shock into it. Be mindful about the alignment of our shock. You have to make sure it will mount back up the same way. It was a difficult ordeal for me and I will likely never buy suspension that isn’t already pre assembled ever again due to that part right there. I would have filmed it but we were literally concerned for our safety the whole time and it was too intense to try and film at that moment. Hope that helps, be really careful. Or honestly take it to a shop for that part. They have a much bigger tool set up that makes it easier and safer.
First video of 3. This video covers the front suspension, video 2 will be the rear suspension, and video 3 will be the cutting and trimming I had to do to fit the tires 😅
What size tires you running
@@tonydavis4957 285/70/R17 🤘
Great video . Can you tell me the brand oif tires and wheels and the sizes please ? Ty
Thank you! 🙏
Wheels:
Brand - Black Rhino
Model - Rapid
Size - 17x8.5 0mm offset
Tires:
Brand - Nitto
Model - Ridge Grappler
Size - 285/70/R17
I ordered them from Custom Offsets
@@ApexFrontier Thank you.
Those are supposed to be good tires low to no road noise@@ApexFrontier
@@jamesvaughan6789 that is true they are quiet and also pretty capable off road
you dont really need the UCA for rckilla kit right? what are the specs on the wheel?
I have a 2020 Frontier crew 4x4…did you have any issues with the tires rubbing since you went from a 265 stock to 285 width? I was not aware of CBC “coil buckets contact” using levelers. I am having the RCKilla kit installed to resolve that issue. Thanks for sharing brother!
@@erwinfelix2239 thanks for asking, so it depends on the offset of your wheels, if you are keeping the stock wheels I believe they have a +35mm offset (might want to double check that to be sure) and the wheels I bought have a 0mm offset, meaning they stick out further away from the center of the vehicle than the stock wheels. That creates different geometry that results in more rubbing. I believe you would have slight rubbing with stock wheels, I had considerable rubbing and had to cut my pinch welds and heat up and move plastic liners to avoid rubbing with my 285s. It’s also good to keep in mind that different brand tires may say they are the same size but may be slightly smaller or bigger than other brands that claim the same size. Usually you can find exact measurements fairly easily.
Also about the coil bucket contact, the best way to avoid it is getting upper control arms. I got the All Dogs Off-road upper control arms, they provide a wider clearance over stock and will allow your suspension to travel to full droop without having coil bucket contact.
I love my 285s I’d say go for it, and don’t be afraid to do a little cutting / grinding / melting if you need too. Just paint over cut metal pieces to avoid rust. I have footage of what I did to fit mine if you wanna check out part 3! Best of luck and feel free to hit me up if you have any other questions, I’ll answer when I have time. I love to help out the community!
@@erwinfelix2239 that stock offset value is for the 3rd generation frontier, not sure what the second generation offset is
Does the truck look leveled after installing the rear leaf springs and front springs ?
It still has a slight tilt, the rear being slightly higher than the front but it’s closer to level than stock by a half inch.
Got another question? I don’t want to add a leveling kit from rough country or the nismo. I was thinking of just adding the front spring only like you added. Would I need to replace the upper control arm as well? I’m not thinking of changing my wheels or stock tires anytime soon. Just want the front end to look a bit higher than the rear.
@@tonyj9502 so spacers create an extra 2 inches of lift by adding space between the top of your shock and the coil bucket. The RC killa springs create 2 inches by being 2 inches longer in total over the stock springs. But if you think about it, the geometry of your suspension has essentially undergone the same change, and I believe will present the same coil bucket contact issue unless you get aftermarket UCAs that provide clearance at full droop. Now, I believe it depends on what your goals are with your truck. Will you be doing off roading? Or are you mostly driving on the streets and just want a nice leveled look for the truck? I’d say if you’re off roading you may want to consider getting aftermarket UCAs, if not than I wouldn’t worry too much about the coil bucket contact, it will only happen when hitting speed bumps at higher speeds, pot holes, etc.
Another thing to consider is the spacers don’t change the force of the springs ability to rebound but the RC killa springs make your suspension rebound with much more force, and when your suspension rebounds and goes to full droop is when you will have coil bucket contact, so I think if your just going for the leveled look and mostly driving on the street , a spacer might be better honestly, because the RC killa spring is gonna launch that wheel to full droop in any conditions where there’s no weight on the front wheels.
TLDR: if off roading get Upper control arms
If not , just get spacers and stock UCA
What's the purpose of replacing upper control arms? They don't mention it on their website, unlike some other products that may induce the dreaded hitting...
The factory upper control arms come into contact with the coil bucket at full droop, and some suspension lift kits change the geometry of your suspension enough that it increases the chances of having that same issue. After market upper control arms are shaped wider to prevent coil bucket contact , and are also generally more robust. Based off my knowledge I decided it would be best to go ahead and get upper control arms since I would be lifting 2 inches and getting heavier / bigger wheels and tires. They are an improvement from factory that’s for sure. Every build is different, you may decide you don’t need them, but I personally think it’s a good choice to get them. All dogs off road makes a good UCA and so does Z1 off-road
And nismo too :-) Thank you for the answer
@@ApexFrontier
@@kevinstarski1598 you’re very welcome! I’m happy to help in any way I can. I love this community 🫡
Any issues with the front axles angles after the lift?
I definitely needed an alignment. I went and got one the next day. You could visually see that one wheel was straight and the other was crooked by like a half inch lol you could feel it while driving too. But apart from the alignment I haven’t had any issues.
Great question thanks for watching!
@@ApexFrontierdid the alignment come out good? I have nismo arms and I can’t get rid of the positive camber even after cam bolts
Did you have to grind the base to be able to fit the upper control arm?
No I didn’t need to grind anything to fit the UCAs. They went right in no problem.
@@ApexFrontier thanks a lot for your reply! I’m sent an email to ADO twice with that question and still haven’t receive a response. I need to order my suspension kit this week for an upcoming trip in April!
Hey you didn’t have to do any grinding or cutting away correct?
Check out part 3
Can someone tell me how many inches this kit lifts the truck?
I have seen two videos and neither mention it.
It lifts the front 2 inches and the rear 1.5 inches. I thought I mentioned it in the video but perhaps I didn’t. It’s mentioned in the description of the lift kit too if you go to all dogs off-road website. It doesn’t level it, it keeps a slight camber but it’s slightly more leveled than stock. With this lift plus the larger tires, my truck is overall 3 inches higher off the ground than it was stock. Stock tires are 31s, and I put 33s on, gives you 1 inch in lift
Did this affect your Nissan warranty?
I don’t know haven’t been to the dealership since I bought it lol 😂
I’d assume it probably affects certain things, but I wouldn’t expect my engine to not be covered anymore and stuff like that
98 ft lbs on those lug nuts fyi.
Thanks for pointing that out ! Was having a hard time finding torque specs for aftermarket wheels