One of the reasons I use the Falken 3W and will go to the 4W when the 3's wear out is the all around decathlete nature of the tires. Loved the BFG's off road but hated them on road. Had the Kumo's on a stocks truck and never had an issue but they weren't outstanding either. Went to the Falkens and they do everything the BFG's do off road while being better in almost every area on road which is where I spend most of my time. And, yeah, I know every BFG fanboy will chime in to pretend they haven't driven on a paved road in thirty years but I know plenty of those big talkers in real life and they spend most of their time on road as well.
You truly made the logical choice which is more than most people can say. I'm a sucker for the white lettering on the BFG's and I know more than one person who bought them over another better tire just because of that. "myself included"
I came here expecting to justify replacing my BFGs with the falkens everyone raves about, I am extremely disappointed that they did the worst in the snow testReply
Came across more than a few drivers that put on BFG AT and even MT tires for road use. Not sure what is the appeal of roaring tire noise and poor wet handling
@@notagain2856 for most it's about appearances. They dont do anything with their ride a decent truck rated highway tire wouldn't allow them to do but those dont look cool. For others though there is a step up in durability on rough roads with rocks and sun hardened roots and branches that puncture lightly constructed tires. The traction argument is hard to test because you really have to be at the more extreme end of the highway tires traction limits before a more aggressive AT tire makes a difference and a lot of guys simply never go that far but they tell themselves it always makes a difference when it often doesnt. It's sort of like a guy bragging on his job application that he can lift 200 pounds (the AT tire guy) while another guy says he can lift 150 (the highway tire guy). So, yeah, if you had a need to lift more than 150 pounds the first guy is your man but the job only requires you to lift a max of 50 pounds so either will do.
I run the BFG KO2 in a 37” D rating on my Jeep and have zero complaints in any conditions especially aired down some. Been throughout trails in Colorado/Montana to the thicker forest trails of Tenn, NC and Georgia and never once let me down. They do pack some in mud but a quick tap of the pedal a couple times usually clears them out. Cheers sir, solid work, much appreciated!
Nitto actually recently released the Terra Grappler G3 with a 70k hard-metric warranty improved wet performance, and 3PMS, so I’d definitely recommend reviewing it!
I currently just had the G3 installed on my 2020 Expedition with 3” leveling kit. Performed tremendously in the hard rain on the turnpike going 80mph. Has great traction on the trails and I haven’t had snow yet. Not nosy at all and very smooth handling
Just got the k03s. Tested them in 1.5 ft of offroad snow and road snow they perform so much better than my old k02s. They stay softer in colder temperatures
I swear by BFG Mud Terrains. They aren't good in rain, but otherwise, they are amazing off-road. MUCH better than all-seasons. In essence, MTs are the "Summer tire" of off-roading.
its been out a year or more now? invalidates this channel. if they drove a real truck the youlda da had the size needed. doubt that ford would ever need the Lt class rating. but when this guy learns how to drive, be a no brainer that a desert runner not a snowmobile, would be fitted with the first tire to finish a baja 1000 with no flats. they are good at high speed, low speed no speed stop go here there you can point em anywhere.
I loved my ko2s. I have road tires now. And they are much better for living with. But I really do miss having the ko2s when snow flies and I start looking for an up north camp site.
Living in Colorado, the snow and (not shown here) ice testing are by far the most important to me. "Good enough" in the dry will be, well, good enough. But the difference in braking or handling in the snow and ice might be the difference in getting stuck or not, or preventing an accident. Also not shown here, I'm also very interested in the efficiency or rolling resistance. Thanks to Tyre Reviews (@TyreReviews) my next set will either be the Firestone Destination AT2 (or 3 if it comes out soon...), Nokian nAT, or, what really surprised me today, the Kumho! I just have to figure out a way to compare these three! Thanks Tyre Reviews!
In my experience, the only time an AT tire should be on in the snow, is when your driving to get your winter tires installed. The difference is immense, and like you say, the difference in handling and braking performance can be the difference in preventing an accident.
Agree. I also live in CO and last winter was the first I did a full blown snow tire. It’s like cheat mode. The difference is huge. That being said we can get snow from September to June or sometimes even longer. Then have the very next day in the 60/70s and sunny. I still want a strong snow performer on my truck for those shoulder seasons. Last year and this year I’ll probably run my winters from Dec-April. Or longer/shorter, depending on conditions.
@@Sedole94 I always forget about that. How some states can get snow for a week, then summer like temps the following couple weeks, and then back to snow. Or summer like conditions at lower elevations, and then icy roads higher up. Sure makes it a difficult choice with which tire to run. I'm in Alberta, Canada. So when it's winter, it's winter. Don't need to worry about running the winter tires on warm days
I-70 Fright-Fest? Out here in California, we are mostly on compact snow and Ice over the Sierras since CalTrans does a great job keeping I-80 and I-50 clear of deep snow. A lot of us have to drive a long way to get there (3 hours in the lower elevations) so road noise/comfort is important.
@@ilikerealflight I've driven studded snow tires for decades (1970's), but the problem is they are not aggressive enough for my 4x4 2/3 of the winter. For black ice driving a few times going to the big city they are outstanding and then I have deep snow/dirt/ slush that needs a knobbier design. I've been looking at Nokians but the tread design is strictly highway use. I've run KO2's on my Jeep TJ and GX470 for over a decade now, they're hard to give up driving the mtn's of NW Wyoming (I live on a dirt road, pavement isn't a full time option for me, I used to run winter tires and mud tires until recently).
You need to add the mickey Thompson baja boss at. In my opinion a true all terrain tire. Excellent in all condition except ice which is expected for a non dedidicated winter tire.
I have them. Wet traction is not great, they are EXTREMELY loud above 70 mph on the highway, and they are wearing quite a bit faster than the Toyo open country AT3s I had before. I would recommend the toyos before the baja boss's any day of the week.
Interesting I have found them to be excellent in the rain. And it depends on what you think is wearing fast. If they last 40k miles I'm happy with that as they are on a work truck that is towing and loaded every day that spends lot of time off pavement for it job and they work far better ans more traction than any other all terrain tire we have used.
Also live in Utah and I drive up into the Uinta's during snowstorms all the time... the Micky T A/T's are better than both of those. People buy those 2 options because they're popular and they never do any actual research.
@@Couponz89 Know any good trails in the Uintas that stay open? I know Mirror lake hwy and wolf creek all close down, do you have to go in from the south or eastern side?
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I really wish the Nokian nAT had been included. Looks like a great all rounder with superb snow performance. I've been tempted by it.
I have had them on my gx470. Never had anything before them so not much to compare to and they have handled snow amazingly in Vermont last winter and have done some moderate trails without any issues (onX rated it a 4 but it felt sketchier). Also got them for like 830 installed which seemed really good
Nokian rockproof (now discontinued) was the worst tire I've ever had. All 4 tires split to the belt first time I took them on a fire road. Some I didn't buy them from an "authorized dealer" that have me almost nothing in the warranty claim. Complet failure in less than 1k miles! I love their snow tires, but have a hard time supporting them.
@@jerameybrady824 Odd. Were your tires old? My Rockproofs have been incredible. Lots of hard miles off-roading including remote areas of Alaska, Arctic Circle etc. They’re bulletproof and have held up well.
Just installed the Toyos on my Outback Wilderness. One of the big factors for me was the weight of the tire & and noise / comfort a close second. It’s a new car and I’m not wanting to add extra stress to it by adding 30-40 lbs of tire weight. In Minnesota it’s mostly ice and snow, with mud coming in also. Once there’s actually time to get off the pavement. 7k on the tires so far and I’m very happy with them.
Should have gone with the Falken A/T Trail. They’re extremely popular on the Wilderness as they’re actually lighter in weight with better wet and snow characteristics, even quieter, have road hazard, and cheaper than Open Country.
The Toyo has a 60,000 warranty in the US and the weight is a major factor for ride and handling. They are wonderful in snow and ice - I am nearing 70,000 on my set and ready for a replacement! The cost are about $335 at discount tire shops. Only real issue I have is noise as they get older, but I heard trucks pass me that are MUCH louder with likely other brands. I rotate tires every 5K and do mostly highway driving - these are really top quality in my book.
@@PRV392 doesnt sound like youre comparing like for like and theres also load rating that needs to be factored in. Here in ok, i get ice little snow, rain, and spend a lot of time on gravel roads. A standard SL rated tire is going to get eaten alive and punctured to death. That said I enjoyed my wildpeak at3's they lasted a lot longer than i expected but the toyos like for like are in like 5-8lbs lighter ea. Having spent most of my time driving gravel/lease roads for work i tried a SL tire one time and that was the last time. I spent more time in the tire shop for flat fixes than the tires were worth.
@@tyrereviewsI agree. Tires in the HT space don't get much testing. There aren't many options in the truck performance sector, but the few options against standard offerings might be neat.
I completely agree with your assessment of the tires. Having owned multiple trucks over the years and numerous sets of AT tires, I've been the most impressed with the Falken's. I've got a Ram 2500 Cummins that's about 8,500lb on AT3W's now and the tread life has been incredible with my current mileage at roughly 35K on the tires. My BFG's were toast at 40K, but I was towing more often with them, I'll admit. I anticipate I've got at least another 15K out of the Falken's. They're also the most compliant of any non-dedicated snow tire I've ever owned in the snow, especially on acceleration. One of the biggest drawbacks for the KO2's for me was the tread life, which is why I didn't want to purchase them again, and they were annoyingly loud for the last 10K or so. The Falken's really haven't even started having appreciable road noise yet either. The pricing's better on the Falken's, and quite frankly, they're just a better tire overall in my humble opinion. I don't notice any measurable difference in the off-road capability of the AT3W's vs the KO2's also. Can't attest to the KO3's or the newest AT4W's, but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase the Falken's again. Honestly, I didn't even know Falken had a new generation of these out, so I'll be looking forward to trying the new ones when it comes time to purchase new tires.
Thank you so much for such objective performance information! The data review link is great too. It helped me decide the Falken is best for my GX460 because I use winter tires through the snowy months here in UT. Being able to drastically lower the snow performance value in the equation made my choice clear.
Falken Wildpeak AT4W (ex ko2) owner checking in. Fantastic offroad, great in the Candian October rainstorms, snow is to be seen. Thicker sidewall. They are heavy, fairly quiet,
@@metalphobos3632I have them and drive to work 50 miles each way ….. love them I’ve had 2 sets ( one set on a truck I traded in) I drive to Cleveland area and winters can be brutal … tires are awesome in every road condition I’ve driven them on …. Got about 60, 000 to 65,000 miles on them … still handles great
I went with the falken at4 this summer I live in the northern climate tow a camper all summer on the weekends. And also get plenty of snow to drive through during the winter. From all my research it looks like the best option for me I have not been disappointed so far.
We put toyo open country at on my wife's Jeep last year and we absolutely love them. We don't take it off road.... Yes it's a mall crawler. But they are really smooth on the road and look great. I have nitto terra grapplers on my truck and I've already decided I'm putting the toyos on it next.
I run the AT52 on a daily / casual off roader and I love them! Great on road, my impressions in the wet line up with the testing and they work very well off road.
I am really happy I replaced my crappy Toyo Open Country ATIII's with the Falken Wildpeak AT4W's. The toyos were HORRIBLE in the rain - we are talking borderline unsafe, and I had significant wear and balance issues even after refreshing every ball joint and bushing and running a new alignment. The Toyo tires had a lot of runout when brand new. The AT4W's have been rock solid.
@@trumpioyou're running them on a huge dually? Well that may be a special case, but my 92 4runner is fine on them. 31-10.5-15 and a 4 cylinder means no chance of sliding haha
Goodyear Duratrac RT and Nokian Outpost nAT would be great to add into the test. One thing I’ve noticed about BFG KO2’s is as they start age or start to wear, their performance decreases significantly. In 15k or so the wet weather and cold temp performance drops significantly.
1. Glad you finally got to it! 2. Disappointed you couldn’t wait for the KO3, given the KO2 is about a decade old. I presume logistic/scheduling priorities? 3. You didn’t talk about tyre pressures. Off-road tyres are exquisitely sensitive to changes in tyre pressures. I tend to always run them at the soft end of recommended pressures. The two “firmer” tyres would have benefited from just a couple of psi less air. 4. I’m surprised the KO2 did so well in the wet, as I find it quite scary! Obviously, I’d be even more scared by the others, and hopefully less by the KO3 when it arrives! Perhaps it’s my driving? 5. When the KO3 FINALLY arrives, please test it against the Falken, ASAP? 6. As always great objective and subjective testing and reporting.
@@ashokeb I think you can now get metric eq 35 in the KO3 but possibly only in a 20" wheel size. Since most of us use 17-18" wheels for mixed use trucks and suvs 20s wont cut it. BFG rollout is a head scratcher tbh. 35x12.5R17 or R18 would be the firs tire to offer in a 35 imo. No 20s.
Would love to see the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT in the mix. Your reviews are the most comprehensive I’ve seen on tires - thank you for these videos!
The baja boss AT is the best tire I ever had in the truck. KO2 on my jeep is great, I hated it in 37s on the truck. The Baja Boss is the best AT tire I ever had, at least on the truck. I guess size and weight of the vehicle play a role too. ko2 awesome on the Jeep, tucked on the truck. Please include the Mickey Thompson tires next time! Thanks!
I have the Kumhos on my Pajero for about 20 000 km now, previously on General AT3. The Kumhos I feel are a better road tire but if you want to do a bit more serious off roading. The AT3 was just able to find more grip over rocks and steep climbs. And you will be picking out stones from between the tread all the time with the Kumhos which does get annoying.
I had Grabber AT3 on my truck, and TBH they were pretty dreadful in the wet. Braking was almost dangerous. Worked well in what little snow we had. Now got on Cooper Discover AT3 Sport2 (as do quite a bit of road use compared to off) and they work better for me, but then all horses for courses I guess.
I have the KO2 on my truck. I’ve been very pleased with their snow performance, however, on icy untreated roads they don’t perform nearly as well as the WS90 blizzaks on my wife’s car, particularly in breaking. That said, I’ve driven the KO2 in 2 feet of wet, untracked snow and had no issues. When I wear them out, I’ll probably go with the KO3.
Great stuff, as always. But for these kinds of tires it would be cool to see low-speed grip, driving on sand dunes, over rocks etc. A more offroad type test in addition to the normal excellent testing. All in all. Good stuff. Keep it up.
another thing to add to this test would be on construction (eg. 3ply sides) and behaviour at different air pressure (eg. how well it goes at low pressure for rock climbing so how well it goes around a rock for footprint on rocks and also on sand)
Amen! Yes I'm looking forward to ANY of these tire tests paying attention to air pressure. Tfl off-road recently showed a Falken 4 with twice the stopping distance as bf Goodrich 3 , really? I'm with you, one test don't rule them all.
I would personally appreciate a tire review that emphasizes snow and ice performance. I do appreciate value in a tire as well. However, just like you mentioned with the snow aspect. Going from snowy to icey conditions changes the ball gane completely. I live in ND, freezing rain and the thawing/re-freezing aspects are a pretty regular thing. Getting from point A to point B safely is my biggest priority, especially when precious cargo is riding with! I did like the video and subscribed 😉
Glad to have this at this time. I have Geolander GO 056 on my Tundra with about a third of their tread left. I get some hydroplaning in harder rains and some tire slip on wet pavement. I want a better tire in snow and wet paved roads. (I go on steep gravel frequently but only about 10 percent of the time). It's looking like the Wildpeak or ko2/ko3 at this point.
I have Kumhos, and I like them. I chose them because in Europe, you can't get AT3Ws; instead, there's a variant called AT3WA with fewer treads. I wanted a good all-around tire that would also be quiet. I've tested them in various conditions-not extreme, but for everyday driving and overlanding-and they perform well on snow, dirt, and pavement. However, I don’t feel confident in the rain, as I’ve lost grip multiple times at low speeds.
Awesome. Love to see more AT/off road content, but appreciate its probably one of the hardest to do ‘scientifically’ and I know the standards you hold yourself too. As other have said, would love to see how the Nokias Outpost stacks up. I’m seeing it on more and more trucks round here in BC.
@@DandoBorusu well it pretty much only beat the competition in snow testing. And if that's important yo you then choose the BFG. And none of them are actually good in the snow it's just some are better than others in their class. But compared to actual snow tires they all stink
@ Based on 25 years of experience driving in the Colorado mountains. I have them as summer tires and Blizzacks for winter. Snow type is as important if not more than depth. But you do you.
Man, I really love this video. You did an excellent job covering all the tires and I think we’re very fair. I appreciate your insight and thoughtfulness.
I’ve had the Kumho road ventures on my 2020 Ford F150 for over a year and they have been a great tire for daily driving. They have a soft ride with low noise and they handle curves without losing your grip.
I tow an RV with a half ton truck, so used the KO2 E rated tires and really liked them. Now I have the AT3W D rated, and they are very good too. Don't think you could go wrong with either. I'm in the midwest, so all kinds of weather, including snow and ice. Also have a steep driveway, and neither tire has had any negative issues with the conditions.
For my 4wd RV/camper which occasionally goes off road and in the snow (Hymer MLT Crossover) For my use and priorities, I plumped for Dry 25, Wet 30, Snow 10 Offroad 15 Comfort 20 and the Falken just nudged the BF Goodrich. Really good review and incredibly useful tool.
Great test as usually, thanks! When A/T is not aggressive enough and M/T is too much, I chose R/T tyre(Radar Renegare RT). Nicely looking, gripping, not very loud, and lovely to drive. In/for Europe this tyre LT 285/65r18 was not certified for 3PMSF (at leasr 3 y.a.), so old good Bridgestone Blizzak DM V3 for the safe winter drive. Any plans for R/T class test? Again, many thanks and all the best.
I currently just had the Nitto G3 installed on my 2020 Expedition which has a 3” leveling kit. These tires performed tremendously well in the hard rain on the turnpike going 80mph. Has great traction on the trails and I haven’t had snow yet. Not nosy at all and very smooth handling
Some things are quite funny, I experienced the KO2 as useless in wet and snow so kinda surprised the difference isn't bigger. Currently having the kumho AT52 and I can second the great wet performance, haven't had snow yet... But it's the most compliant tire I ever had, it's really plush, first thought I was loosing air
The toyo at3 are offered in a 255-80r17. That size, combined with its light weight, has made it the tires that I've put on several vehicles now here in Colorado.
Canadian here, and i have a slightly lifted truck on 285 75 17 BFG KO2s. They did quite well the first 2 or 3 winters, but now they have avout 40,000kms on them and the performance on packed snow and ice is much worse. I wanted a set of winters but its hard to find a dedicated winter tire in that size. I stepped down to a 285 70 17 and ordered a set of cooper snow claws that im having studded. Im hoping they will give significantly better performance that the KO2s.
Nokian rockproof (now discontinued) was the worst tire I've ever had. All 4 tires split to the belt first time I took them on a fire road. Some I didn't buy them from an "authorized dealer" that have me almost nothing in the warranty claim. Complet failure in less than 1k miles! I love their snow tires, but have a hard time supporting them.
@@jerameybrady824 Clearly this is not indicative of all those tires as a lot of other people have very positive experiences. I have a set of Nokian ATs (the previous model to the nAT) which have done about 20k miles, 5k off road, with zero issues. They are better than the Falken ATs I had before. That said, Nokian should have taken care of you, esp. because of federal consumer protection laws.
I wasn't impressed with the Nokian Outpost in snow. It was a great tire overall but it had a lot of lateral slide when braking in snow. I'm hoping they improved the design with the nAT update.
I had 285/75r17 WPF AT3 on my truck and fell in love with them. Pavement, hard pack, sand, mud & snow. They were awesome! Had some shop tell me that the new AT4’s weren’t as durable. I bought Toyo’s AT3 in the same size. Went to the desert, and they were ok. The trip wasn’t as good on the Toyo’s as the FWP 3’s and you can definitely tell the difference between the two. The Toyos are definitely softer which I don’t like. The Falcons just had more grip. The shop was full of crap and I wouldn’t buy the Toyo’s over the Falcons again. Now I’m buying the FWP AT4’s for my Suburban. Falcon has come a long way. Bad ass tire that I’d recommended to everyone.
Best tire I have used for my 2008 Ford F250 Super Duty with welding equipment installed were the Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain A/Ts. 35x12.5r17. I wish Goodyear still made them...
Looking forward to an AT winter driving test. I've got a theory some of the less aggressive more road-biased ATs will do better than the big chunky offroady ones. I'm surprised the KO2 did as well as it did in the snow, my experience is they aren't near as good as some competitors on the compact snow and ice we drive on most of the winter. I honestly found they even struggled with wet pavement. But it's been six years since I ran a KO2 on one of my own machines. In the Canadian rockies you're guaranteed six months of full on winter driving, three months of likely winter driving, and three months where it probably won't but definitely could snow on you. I'm currently running studded winters and swapping to all-weathers for the summer, but with three vehicles I drive regularly, keeping two sets of tires around is a bit expensive and takes up a fair bit of space. I just haven't been convinced there's an all-weather tire out there that'll actually work for me in all conditions. I'm currently shopping for summers for a midsize truck and winters for a 3/4 ton for next year. I'm not really sold on studs unless I can get them factory studded and there's not a lot of market there for a 3/4 ton. If there's an AW out there that does really well in the winter I'd be open to running that as a winter until they'll become a year-round tire when my seasonal tires wear out. But I'm pessimistic about finding that year-round tire.
All terrains are a compromise in all seasons. A set of dedicated winters and summers/all terrains is initially more expensive but I’ve gotten 6-8 seasons of great performance on each set. After all terrains are a bit worn, they suck in all seasons. So buying new all terrains every couple years and still having half the performance of dedicated tires, that’s like a double compromise. Cheapskates loose twice as hard as they think they are gaining
@@3000fpe So what tire would you suggest for a day in late August when it could be -10°C and snowing in the morning and scorching +30°C and bluebird skies by the afternoon? There's a reason I run all-weather tires in the summer. It would be nice if there was an all-weather tire that actually functioned in the winter. Thus far my experience is otherwise, and I'm pretty sure I made that clear in my comment, and also that I was pessimistic about finding it, and that I'm already running dedicated winters. I don't think it's really being a cheapskate when two sets of decent 120+ load index tires could set you back $4k.
@ um I was basically reinforcing or supporting everything you said. I wasn’t being critical of what you said. Perhaps there was something I said that came across the wrong way.
@@3000fpe You offered no new info, you condescendingly repeated a bunch of info as if I didn't understand what I had typed, and then you used a condescending pejorative to describe someone trying to accomplish what I was wishing was possible to acheive. I'm not sure how you expected that to come across in any way other than the one it did.
@@gogmorgoaway you stated that you were looking for an all weather tire that did good in the winter. There aren’t any that compare to a dedicated winter. So I was trying to say that don’t bother looking for compromise and keep running two sets, like you have been. Trying to tell you that you’re doing the right thing. Don’t fuck it up. You’re on the right track. You seem like you like to argue with people even if they agree. Yeesh. Stunned or just struggling?
@@tyrereviews Yeah, one thing that might be interesting is mud performance, it's not a situation that you encounter often enough depending on where you live to get a dedicated tyre, but when you do, it may be the difference between getting stuck or passing through. It's probably there that the Khumo might be lacking, and by the way they look I suspect the Nitto, BFG and Toyo would handle mud much better
Just put the Toyos on my 23 Sierra after a Goodyear failure on a recommendation from my tire dealer. I’m mostly highway and gravel roads with a small amount of off-road and of course some snow/ice being in Iowa. We shall see how they hold up.
I love the Falken Wildpeaks on our Rivian R1S! Best bang for the buck. :) I would consider buying some KO3s in the future when my tread wears out (which will be looooong time coming).
So helpful. Would be nice for you to talk about the chemical reaction of nitrates and nitrites when cooked at high temps. Seems like there are studies showing high temps cause issues
Having a grid where we can weight it to our own preference is absolutely brilliant! Would love to see this type of grid for all season passenger tires also.
I would love to see top 5 mud tires tested especially in snow I’ve run KM, KM2, KM3, and the Nitto Mud Grappler trail. In the dry powder they’ve performed well. Icy conditions were hard on the original KMs but the compound got softer with the 2 and 3. The nitros have been a joy in the snow only thing they are a heavier tire so definitely want to keep an eye on that for the rigs with lower torque and HP.
Excellent information. Thank you all for your hard work and sharing it. Just curious… what country/state you guys did the test in? Thanks for your time.
@tyrereviews Great video, nice to have a a professional take on reviews using repeatable methods and practices and data presentation. I found your tests and the TfL off-road channel snow test of the similar tires and was surprised to see the Falken Wildpeak AT4W perform so bad in the snow for them and come last for yourself even if not quite as bad as they experienced. As you mentioned in your review, the SL variant being lighter with a different compound maybe compared to the LT, might fare better in the snow. The AT3W SL load was definitely a different compound to LT but doesn’t seemed to be stated with the AT4w anywhere. Would be interested to see that data if you ever get the chance to compare i.e. P285/70R17 SL tire weighing 53.4lbs vs LT 285/70R17 tire weighing in at 65.4lbs and give an idea of LT vs SL applications and impacts on handling and braking. Great reviews and interesting info once again!! Cheers!
I have Kumo on my Jeep wrangler they are quite I’m waiting for snow. Just got Falken Rubteck for my truck there quite too waiting to which one is better
I can only guess the distinction here is separating truly aggressive AT tires like the BFG AT KO2/3 from more road-biased mild AT tires like the BFG Trail Terrain. While I wouldn't expect much comingling between the two, I am interested in how they compare. Predictably, the mild at probably have lower rolling resistance and higher dry performance, but I'm most interested in snow and ice performance.
@@mikesoda5707 i've tested the Trail Terrain against the Toyo in this test, so while not perfect (that was p metric and this is LT) it's a pretty good cross reference point www.tire-reviews.com/Article/2022-Tire-Reviews-All-Terrain-Tire-Test.htm
Hey Jonathan! Big fan of your videos. Always fun to watch as Im a fellow tyre nerd myself. I have a good and fun video/test idea. What if you tried winter tyres mounted in the wrong direction? Lets say a set of central european, nordic and studded tyres? Its a good reminder to people to show the importance of it and I as a nerd would see it as big fun to see the actual difference it makes. Cheers from Sweden.
Would have been great to see the goodyear duratracs tested here too! They seem to be some of the most popular in my area aside from the falkens which my tire guy doesn't like how the compound wears over time. Ive got ko2s on an h3 hummer and duratracs on my ram 1500 and theres a huge difference in wet traction for sure. But I'd love to see the numbers running them on the same platform. Nice video though!
I'm on my second set of Nitto Terra Grapplers with my 2004 Dodge 3500 diesel. The G2s have a 3 peak snowflake rating. I've been really happy with them plus I got 120k, km out of the last set with regular tire rotations.
Yes, the BFG is firmer...the Tri-Gard sidewall makes the sidewall less prone to punctures or blowouts of the tire from heavy impacts. I'll take durability all day long over a little ride comfort.
It would be nice to know the size and style of tires tested without freeze-framing the video. It would also be nice to see a conversion chart/calculator on your website to translate whatever jibberish the tire size nomenclature I am seeing on the sidewalls of these tires relates to the sizing criteria that we have used (in North America at least) since the 1970's (i.e. tread width, aspect ratio, wheel size). Down the road, may consider testing the same tire in LT versus P-metric and compare fuel economy/acceleration/braking differences as well. Nice work on this test overall
I went to the website and redid the percentages. No suprise, the BFG came out on top for my usage. Mild off-roading, daily driving in all conditions, and towing a trailer from time to time. I’m currently on a set of KO2’s, with about 50,xxx miles on them. In the near future, a set of KO3’s. Now, that bad about the KO2’s. They have gotten “hard” at the age and mileage they are. No surprise. They are by no means “bad” but a lite truck, with 3.73 gears and 385 horsepower, they spin easier on cold, highly traveled pavement. But, they still perform off road, and in the snow.
I run a Falken AT3W in a P metric. As I have read, the LT tyres have a slightly different compound and tread depth. These are 2 ply sidewall tyres, KO3 is 3 ply, don't know about the Kumho. That will explain the sharp reactions to bumps. It would be nice if tyre companies didn't swap and choose on tyre build by tyre size! I'm a fan of the AT3W's and will probably go to the AT4W's when I need new boots. KO3 will get some investigation though.
I run the falken wildpeaks at4 and love them. Little to no vibration/noise on road and perform just as well as my bfg ats in the past. Also have a 60,000 mi life compared to bf at 50,000
Please go review your tires over at www.tire-reviews.com 💖💖
Why are there no mickey thompson baja boss ats in this test? I dont see them mearly as much as i should on any tests really
One of the reasons I use the Falken 3W and will go to the 4W when the 3's wear out is the all around decathlete nature of the tires. Loved the BFG's off road but hated them on road. Had the Kumo's on a stocks truck and never had an issue but they weren't outstanding either. Went to the Falkens and they do everything the BFG's do off road while being better in almost every area on road which is where I spend most of my time. And, yeah, I know every BFG fanboy will chime in to pretend they haven't driven on a paved road in thirty years but I know plenty of those big talkers in real life and they spend most of their time on road as well.
You truly made the logical choice which is more than most people can say. I'm a sucker for the white lettering on the BFG's and I know more than one person who bought them over another better tire just because of that. "myself included"
I came here expecting to justify replacing my BFGs with the falkens everyone raves about, I am extremely disappointed that they did the worst in the snow testReply
Came across more than a few drivers that put on BFG AT and even MT tires for road use. Not sure what is the appeal of roaring tire noise and poor wet handling
@@notagain2856 for most it's about appearances. They dont do anything with their ride a decent truck rated highway tire wouldn't allow them to do but those dont look cool. For others though there is a step up in durability on rough roads with rocks and sun hardened roots and branches that puncture lightly constructed tires. The traction argument is hard to test because you really have to be at the more extreme end of the highway tires traction limits before a more aggressive AT tire makes a difference and a lot of guys simply never go that far but they tell themselves it always makes a difference when it often doesnt. It's sort of like a guy bragging on his job application that he can lift 200 pounds (the AT tire guy) while another guy says he can lift 150 (the highway tire guy). So, yeah, if you had a need to lift more than 150 pounds the first guy is your man but the job only requires you to lift a max of 50 pounds so either will do.
@@davep2945 never thought is see someone turn tire choice into a dlck measuring contest like you are doing
I run the BFG KO2 in a 37” D rating on my Jeep and have zero complaints in any conditions especially aired down some. Been throughout trails in Colorado/Montana to the thicker forest trails of Tenn, NC and Georgia and never once let me down. They do pack some in mud but a quick tap of the pedal a couple times usually clears them out. Cheers sir, solid work, much appreciated!
i just got the ko3s after my ko2s reached 75k miles! love the ko3 so far, had them for 4 months so far!
Worst value in AT tires! They are overpriced, long since have been outclassed by several other tire models and have the worst tread life.
Nitto actually recently released the Terra Grappler G3 with a 70k hard-metric warranty improved wet performance, and 3PMS, so I’d definitely recommend reviewing it!
That sounds interesting, I'll have to look into it!b
I doubt they fix the bad wet performance, weights and noise. They will always be at the bottom
@@Darkcruzer23they’ve radically changed everything about them.
I currently just had the G3 installed on my 2020 Expedition with 3” leveling kit. Performed tremendously in the hard rain on the turnpike going 80mph. Has great traction on the trails and I haven’t had snow yet. Not nosy at all and very smooth handling
Hankook at2 xtreme rf12 70 warranty also 3pms and work at tyre shops had some hankooks do 200,000km superb all round
Just got the k03s. Tested them in 1.5 ft of offroad snow and road snow they perform so much better than my old k02s. They stay softer in colder temperatures
Impressed that the KO2 is such a strong performer even as it's being replaced by the KO3.
I swear by BFG Mud Terrains. They aren't good in rain, but otherwise, they are amazing off-road. MUCH better than all-seasons. In essence, MTs are the "Summer tire" of off-roading.
its been out a year or more now? invalidates this channel. if they drove a real truck the youlda da
had the size needed. doubt that ford would ever need the Lt class rating. but when this guy learns how to drive, be a no brainer that a desert runner not a snowmobile, would be fitted with the first tire to finish a baja 1000 with no flats. they are good at high speed, low speed no speed stop go here there you can point em anywhere.
do MUD TERRAIN next, MT
An F-150 Raptor is not a real truck lol?
I loved my ko2s. I have road tires now. And they are much better for living with. But I really do miss having the ko2s when snow flies and I start looking for an up north camp site.
Living in Colorado, the snow and (not shown here) ice testing are by far the most important to me. "Good enough" in the dry will be, well, good enough. But the difference in braking or handling in the snow and ice might be the difference in getting stuck or not, or preventing an accident.
Also not shown here, I'm also very interested in the efficiency or rolling resistance. Thanks to Tyre Reviews (@TyreReviews) my next set will either be the Firestone Destination AT2 (or 3 if it comes out soon...), Nokian nAT, or, what really surprised me today, the Kumho! I just have to figure out a way to compare these three!
Thanks Tyre Reviews!
In my experience, the only time an AT tire should be on in the snow, is when your driving to get your winter tires installed.
The difference is immense, and like you say, the difference in handling and braking performance can be the difference in preventing an accident.
Agree. I also live in CO and last winter was the first I did a full blown snow tire. It’s like cheat mode. The difference is huge. That being said we can get snow from September to June or sometimes even longer. Then have the very next day in the 60/70s and sunny. I still want a strong snow performer on my truck for those shoulder seasons. Last year and this year I’ll probably run my winters from Dec-April. Or longer/shorter, depending on conditions.
@@Sedole94 I always forget about that. How some states can get snow for a week, then summer like temps the following couple weeks, and then back to snow.
Or summer like conditions at lower elevations, and then icy roads higher up. Sure makes it a difficult choice with which tire to run.
I'm in Alberta, Canada. So when it's winter, it's winter. Don't need to worry about running the winter tires on warm days
I-70 Fright-Fest? Out here in California, we are mostly on compact snow and Ice over the Sierras since CalTrans does a great job keeping I-80 and I-50 clear of deep snow. A lot of us have to drive a long way to get there (3 hours in the lower elevations) so road noise/comfort is important.
@@ilikerealflight I've driven studded snow tires for decades (1970's), but the problem is they are not aggressive enough for my 4x4 2/3 of the winter. For black ice driving a few times going to the big city they are outstanding and then I have deep snow/dirt/ slush that needs a knobbier design. I've been looking at Nokians but the tread design is strictly highway use. I've run KO2's on my Jeep TJ and GX470 for over a decade now, they're hard to give up driving the mtn's of NW Wyoming (I live on a dirt road, pavement isn't a full time option for me, I used to run winter tires and mud tires until recently).
You need to add the mickey Thompson baja boss at. In my opinion a true all terrain tire. Excellent in all condition except ice which is expected for a non dedidicated winter tire.
I have them. Wet traction is not great, they are EXTREMELY loud above 70 mph on the highway, and they are wearing quite a bit faster than the Toyo open country AT3s I had before. I would recommend the toyos before the baja boss's any day of the week.
Interesting I have found them to be excellent in the rain. And it depends on what you think is wearing fast. If they last 40k miles I'm happy with that as they are on a work truck that is towing and loaded every day that spends lot of time off pavement for it job and they work far better ans more traction than any other all terrain tire we have used.
Living in Utah I'm seeing a LOT of KO2s and Falkens on basically every 4x4 here. Seems like those two are a reliable jack of all trades!
KO2 are trash
Also live in Utah and I drive up into the Uinta's during snowstorms all the time... the Micky T A/T's are better than both of those. People buy those 2 options because they're popular and they never do any actual research.
@@Couponz89 Know any good trails in the Uintas that stay open? I know Mirror lake hwy and wolf creek all close down, do you have to go in from the south or eastern side?
I really wish the Nokian nAT had been included. Looks like a great all rounder with superb snow performance. I've been tempted by it.
I have had them on my gx470. Never had anything before them so not much to compare to and they have handled snow amazingly in Vermont last winter and have done some moderate trails without any issues (onX rated it a 4 but it felt sketchier). Also got them for like 830 installed which seemed really good
Best AT tire on the market.
Best tire. I’ve had most of these at some point and Nokian is best.
Nokian rockproof (now discontinued) was the worst tire I've ever had. All 4 tires split to the belt first time I took them on a fire road. Some I didn't buy them from an "authorized dealer" that have me almost nothing in the warranty claim. Complet failure in less than 1k miles! I love their snow tires, but have a hard time supporting them.
@@jerameybrady824 Odd. Were your tires old? My Rockproofs have been incredible. Lots of hard miles off-roading including remote areas of Alaska, Arctic Circle etc. They’re bulletproof and have held up well.
I have Falken AT3 on my wife’s F-150 and I have AT4 on my Superduty. They are very durable. Very happy with the performance.
Just installed the Toyos on my Outback Wilderness. One of the big factors for me was the weight of the tire & and noise / comfort a close second. It’s a new car and I’m not wanting to add extra stress to it by adding 30-40 lbs of tire weight. In Minnesota it’s mostly ice and snow, with mud coming in also. Once there’s actually time to get off the pavement. 7k on the tires so far and I’m very happy with them.
Should have gone with the Falken A/T Trail. They’re extremely popular on the Wilderness as they’re actually lighter in weight with better wet and snow characteristics, even quieter, have road hazard, and cheaper than Open Country.
The Toyo has a 60,000 warranty in the US and the weight is a major factor for ride and handling. They are wonderful in snow and ice - I am nearing 70,000 on my set and ready for a replacement! The cost are about $335 at discount tire shops. Only real issue I have is noise as they get older, but I heard trucks pass me that are MUCH louder with likely other brands. I rotate tires every 5K and do mostly highway driving - these are really top quality in my book.
@@PRV392 doesnt sound like youre comparing like for like and theres also load rating that needs to be factored in. Here in ok, i get ice little snow, rain, and spend a lot of time on gravel roads. A standard SL rated tire is going to get eaten alive and punctured to death. That said I enjoyed my wildpeak at3's they lasted a lot longer than i expected but the toyos like for like are in like 5-8lbs lighter ea. Having spent most of my time driving gravel/lease roads for work i tried a SL tire one time and that was the last time. I spent more time in the tire shop for flat fixes than the tires were worth.
Agreed. One thing missing from this review was fuel consumption, and the lighter weight of the Toyo's are a big factor.
@@Ttallonn Comparing all terrains for CUV not an LT.
American bias but would love to see more truck tire testing!
Personal fun bias, so would I!
@@tyrereviewsI agree. Tires in the HT space don't get much testing. There aren't many options in the truck performance sector, but the few options against standard offerings might be neat.
@@geraldolson542 it's on the list. Tirerack obviously do a good job and consumer reports have a nice database
@@tyrereviews do MUD TERRAIN next, MT
I completely agree with your assessment of the tires. Having owned multiple trucks over the years and numerous sets of AT tires, I've been the most impressed with the Falken's. I've got a Ram 2500 Cummins that's about 8,500lb on AT3W's now and the tread life has been incredible with my current mileage at roughly 35K on the tires. My BFG's were toast at 40K, but I was towing more often with them, I'll admit. I anticipate I've got at least another 15K out of the Falken's. They're also the most compliant of any non-dedicated snow tire I've ever owned in the snow, especially on acceleration. One of the biggest drawbacks for the KO2's for me was the tread life, which is why I didn't want to purchase them again, and they were annoyingly loud for the last 10K or so. The Falken's really haven't even started having appreciable road noise yet either. The pricing's better on the Falken's, and quite frankly, they're just a better tire overall in my humble opinion. I don't notice any measurable difference in the off-road capability of the AT3W's vs the KO2's also. Can't attest to the KO3's or the newest AT4W's, but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase the Falken's again. Honestly, I didn't even know Falken had a new generation of these out, so I'll be looking forward to trying the new ones when it comes time to purchase new tires.
Thank you so much for such objective performance information! The data review link is great too. It helped me decide the Falken is best for my GX460 because I use winter tires through the snowy months here in UT. Being able to drastically lower the snow performance value in the equation made my choice clear.
Falken Wildpeak AT4W (ex ko2) owner checking in. Fantastic offroad, great in the Candian October rainstorms, snow is to be seen. Thicker sidewall. They are heavy, fairly quiet,
How are they for daily driving? Thinking about grabbing a set this week.
@@metalphobos3632I have them and drive to work 50 miles each way ….. love them I’ve had 2 sets ( one set on a truck I traded in) I drive to Cleveland area and winters can be brutal … tires are awesome in every road condition I’ve driven them on …. Got about 60, 000 to 65,000 miles on them … still handles great
I went with the falken at4 this summer I live in the northern climate tow a camper all summer on the weekends. And also get plenty of snow to drive through during the winter. From all my research it looks like the best option for me I have not been disappointed so far.
We put toyo open country at on my wife's Jeep last year and we absolutely love them. We don't take it off road.... Yes it's a mall crawler. But they are really smooth on the road and look great. I have nitto terra grapplers on my truck and I've already decided I'm putting the toyos on it next.
before this video came out i was torn between all these options, but now i can rest my mind thank you for this!
Ive been very happy with the toyo open country at3 in the snow. Great tire
get a review on www.tire-reviews.com :)
The Toyos were the best AT tires I've had. And I've run nearly everything.
I run the AT52 on a daily / casual off roader and I love them! Great on road, my impressions in the wet line up with the testing and they work very well off road.
I'm glad you've had good experiences! Get a review on www.tire-reviews.com sometime :)
I am really happy I replaced my crappy Toyo Open Country ATIII's with the Falken Wildpeak AT4W's. The toyos were HORRIBLE in the rain - we are talking borderline unsafe, and I had significant wear and balance issues even after refreshing every ball joint and bushing and running a new alignment. The Toyo tires had a lot of runout when brand new.
The AT4W's have been rock solid.
Had zero issues in the rain with my ATIII's
@ give it time. They were decent at first and next thing I know the ass end of my 5 ton dually was washing out with maintenance throttle.
@@trumpio been 4 years and are still great for me. I don’t tow though….
@@trumpioyou're running them on a huge dually? Well that may be a special case, but my 92 4runner is fine on them. 31-10.5-15 and a 4 cylinder means no chance of sliding haha
KO2 for me and my needs. (Wet, Offroad, and Snow).
Goodyear Duratrac RT and Nokian Outpost nAT would be great to add into the test. One thing I’ve noticed about BFG KO2’s is as they start age or start to wear, their performance decreases significantly. In 15k or so the wet weather and cold temp performance drops significantly.
Good to know, if you can get some reviews on www.tire-reviews.com :)
Please test the new Nordic wintertyres against the old best performers next year
A new nordic test is in the planning
@@tyrereviews This year or soon??? 😃
@@yamahass66 next :(
1. Glad you finally got to it!
2. Disappointed you couldn’t wait for the KO3, given the KO2 is about a decade old. I presume logistic/scheduling priorities?
3. You didn’t talk about tyre pressures. Off-road tyres are exquisitely sensitive to changes in tyre pressures. I tend to always run them at the soft end of recommended pressures. The two “firmer” tyres would have benefited from just a couple of psi less air.
4. I’m surprised the KO2 did so well in the wet, as I find it quite scary! Obviously, I’d be even more scared by the others, and hopefully less by the KO3 when it arrives! Perhaps it’s my driving?
5. When the KO3 FINALLY arrives, please test it against the Falken, ASAP?
6. As always great objective and subjective testing and reporting.
You wanted him to wait until 2026? Because that's when BFG says this size becomes available in a K03.
@ Jeezuss! Now that’s a staged roll out! Guess I’ll just by the 35s for my Ranger Raptor when they come out, allele “any time now”!
@@ashokeb I think you can now get metric eq 35 in the KO3 but possibly only in a 20" wheel size. Since most of us use 17-18" wheels for mixed use trucks and suvs 20s wont cut it. BFG rollout is a head scratcher tbh. 35x12.5R17 or R18 would be the firs tire to offer in a 35 imo. No 20s.
@ KO3s in 315/70x17 just became available in Australia today! Ordered some, on Method Race Wheels 703s!
Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT?
Yes!! Been waiting for this review for so long
I hope it doesn't disappoint
i second this!!!
Danggg really wish the ko3 was apart of the test. Would be nice to see the improvements
yeah me too
Would love to see the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT in the mix. Your reviews are the most comprehensive I’ve seen on tires - thank you for these videos!
A lot of people are saying that so I guess I need to buy some
Only other tire I would consider with the at4w.
The baja boss AT is the best tire I ever had in the truck.
KO2 on my jeep is great, I hated it in 37s on the truck. The Baja Boss is the best AT tire I ever had, at least on the truck.
I guess size and weight of the vehicle play a role too. ko2 awesome on the Jeep, tucked on the truck.
Please include the Mickey Thompson tires next time! Thanks!
I have the Kumhos on my Pajero for about 20 000 km now, previously on General AT3. The Kumhos I feel are a better road tire but if you want to do a bit more serious off roading. The AT3 was just able to find more grip over rocks and steep climbs. And you will be picking out stones from between the tread all the time with the Kumhos which does get annoying.
General grabber AT3s are put on allot of factory fit outs. Was really hoping this may included. Please could you include a General Grabber AT3 test?
AT3 is a euro only tire, Check out this test www.tyrereviews.com/Article/Best-All-Terrain-Tyres-Tested-2025.htm
I had Grabber AT3 on my truck, and TBH they were pretty dreadful in the wet. Braking was almost dangerous. Worked well in what little snow we had. Now got on Cooper Discover AT3 Sport2 (as do quite a bit of road use compared to off) and they work better for me, but then all horses for courses I guess.
I have the KO2 on my truck. I’ve been very pleased with their snow performance, however, on icy untreated roads they don’t perform nearly as well as the WS90 blizzaks on my wife’s car, particularly in breaking.
That said, I’ve driven the KO2 in 2 feet of wet, untracked snow and had no issues. When I wear them out, I’ll probably go with the KO3.
Great stuff, as always. But for these kinds of tires it would be cool to see low-speed grip, driving on sand dunes, over rocks etc. A more offroad type test in addition to the normal excellent testing. All in all. Good stuff. Keep it up.
I'm in Colorado and have Falkens on all of my vehicles. I don't use tires these large sizes but love them. They perform well in all conditions.
another thing to add to this test would be on construction (eg. 3ply sides) and behaviour at different air pressure (eg. how well it goes at low pressure for rock climbing so how well it goes around a rock for footprint on rocks and also on sand)
Amen! Yes I'm looking forward to ANY of these tire tests paying attention to air pressure. Tfl off-road recently showed a Falken 4 with twice the stopping distance as bf Goodrich 3 , really? I'm with you, one test don't rule them all.
I would personally appreciate a tire review that emphasizes snow and ice performance. I do appreciate value in a tire as well. However, just like you mentioned with the snow aspect. Going from snowy to icey conditions changes the ball gane completely. I live in ND, freezing rain and the thawing/re-freezing aspects are a pretty regular thing. Getting from point A to point B safely is my biggest priority, especially when precious cargo is riding with! I did like the video and subscribed 😉
I've use both bfg tko2 and toyo at 3 . I've not tried the bfg tko 3 yet ,you can't go wrong with either.
Used in fl and n.c. mountains
Glad to have this at this time. I have Geolander GO 056 on my Tundra with about a third of their tread left. I get some hydroplaning in harder rains and some tire slip on wet pavement. I want a better tire in snow and wet paved roads. (I go on steep gravel frequently but only about 10 percent of the time). It's looking like the Wildpeak or ko2/ko3 at this point.
I just bought a 25 tundra. It has geolanders also. I noticed many TRD’s they are putting the wild peaks. Just FYI.
I have Kumhos, and I like them. I chose them because in Europe, you can't get AT3Ws; instead, there's a variant called AT3WA with fewer treads. I wanted a good all-around tire that would also be quiet. I've tested them in various conditions-not extreme, but for everyday driving and overlanding-and they perform well on snow, dirt, and pavement. However, I don’t feel confident in the rain, as I’ve lost grip multiple times at low speeds.
very useful to know, thanks
Awesome. Love to see more AT/off road content, but appreciate its probably one of the hardest to do ‘scientifically’ and I know the standards you hold yourself too. As other have said, would love to see how the Nokias Outpost stacks up. I’m seeing it on more and more trucks round here in BC.
KO2, your missionary-position all time world champ. Its vanilla, but beats the competition in every category for years.
@@DandoBorusu well it pretty much only beat the competition in snow testing. And if that's important yo you then choose the BFG. And none of them are actually good in the snow it's just some are better than others in their class. But compared to actual snow tires they all stink
@@davep2945 im just mad biased bro. these things rock. Check out 'Dirt Lifestyle' he deep snow wheels in BFG K02s in his land rover rig.
KO2s suck in snow particularly wet compacted.
@@Worthrhetime thats objective opinion for sure
@ Based on 25 years of experience driving in the Colorado mountains. I have them as summer tires and Blizzacks for winter. Snow type is as important if not more than depth. But you do you.
Man, I really love this video. You did an excellent job covering all the tires and I think we’re very fair. I appreciate your insight and thoughtfulness.
I would love to see comparisons to snow tires and some higher performance highway tires to these AT's!
Yay! Finally I know what to fit on the rims of MX:5 ;) Loved the video, as always...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 on MX 5, good one
Toyo ATs Colorado Rocky Mts 2 wheel drive. Never failed me on any Mountain Pass W/S/S or Fall.
I’ve had the Kumho road ventures on my 2020 Ford F150 for over a year and they have been a great tire for daily driving. They have a soft ride with low noise and they handle curves without losing your grip.
Any reason why no Cooper AT?
I Would've liked to see some Rolling Resistance/fuel economy numbers included in the testing.
Yeah me too, it's harder to do in the US as there's a lot less focus on it
I tow an RV with a half ton truck, so used the KO2 E rated tires and really liked them. Now I have the AT3W D rated, and they are very good too. Don't think you could go wrong with either. I'm in the midwest, so all kinds of weather, including snow and ice. Also have a steep driveway, and neither tire has had any negative issues with the conditions.
Why wasn’t the Nokian nAT in this test. You said they were good and you liked them. Any chance you’ll be doing another video with them included?
Yes, there will be a snow test including them hopefully early next year
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Thanks. I bought some a month again for southern Ontario. Here’s hoping they’re good in the snow👍
For my 4wd RV/camper which occasionally goes off road and in the snow (Hymer MLT Crossover) For my use and priorities, I plumped for Dry 25, Wet 30, Snow 10 Offroad 15 Comfort 20 and the Falken just nudged the BF Goodrich. Really good review and incredibly useful tool.
Got the Toyo's on my 4runner and they're phenomenal. Quiet, comfortable, and ridiculously good in the snow.
Yeah, but they cost an arm and a leg.
@@banjohappy I was very surprised when I saw the cost shown on the video cause i got them for less than the Falkens
Great test as usually, thanks! When A/T is not aggressive enough and M/T is too much, I chose R/T tyre(Radar Renegare RT). Nicely looking, gripping, not very loud, and lovely to drive. In/for Europe this tyre LT 285/65r18 was not certified for 3PMSF (at leasr 3 y.a.), so old good Bridgestone Blizzak DM V3 for the safe winter drive. Any plans for R/T class test? Again, many thanks and all the best.
I currently just had the Nitto G3 installed on my 2020 Expedition which has a 3” leveling kit. These tires performed tremendously well in the hard rain on the turnpike going 80mph. Has great traction on the trails and I haven’t had snow yet. Not nosy at all and very smooth handling
Some things are quite funny, I experienced the KO2 as useless in wet and snow so kinda surprised the difference isn't bigger. Currently having the kumho AT52 and I can second the great wet performance, haven't had snow yet... But it's the most compliant tire I ever had, it's really plush, first thought I was loosing air
The toyo at3 are offered in a 255-80r17. That size, combined with its light weight, has made it the tires that I've put on several vehicles now here in Colorado.
Canadian here, and i have a slightly lifted truck on 285 75 17 BFG KO2s. They did quite well the first 2 or 3 winters, but now they have avout 40,000kms on them and the performance on packed snow and ice is much worse. I wanted a set of winters but its hard to find a dedicated winter tire in that size. I stepped down to a 285 70 17 and ordered a set of cooper snow claws that im having studded. Im hoping they will give significantly better performance that the KO2s.
cant wait for the Nokian nAT testing
Im definitely wanting to know how the Outpost stacks up to these
Yes!!!
Nokian rockproof (now discontinued) was the worst tire I've ever had. All 4 tires split to the belt first time I took them on a fire road. Some I didn't buy them from an "authorized dealer" that have me almost nothing in the warranty claim. Complet failure in less than 1k miles! I love their snow tires, but have a hard time supporting them.
@@jerameybrady824 Clearly this is not indicative of all those tires as a lot of other people have very positive experiences. I have a set of Nokian ATs (the previous model to the nAT) which have done about 20k miles, 5k off road, with zero issues. They are better than the Falken ATs I had before. That said, Nokian should have taken care of you, esp. because of federal consumer protection laws.
I wasn't impressed with the Nokian Outpost in snow. It was a great tire overall but it had a lot of lateral slide when braking in snow. I'm hoping they improved the design with the nAT update.
I have the kumho AT 52 and love them.
Just stopping in to say that second gen raptor still looks incredible. Thanks for the great reviews!
I do miss the V8
I had 285/75r17 WPF AT3 on my truck and fell in love with them. Pavement, hard pack, sand, mud & snow. They were awesome! Had some shop tell me that the new AT4’s weren’t as durable. I bought Toyo’s AT3 in the same size. Went to the desert, and they were ok. The trip wasn’t as good on the Toyo’s as the FWP 3’s and you can definitely tell the difference between the two. The Toyos are definitely softer which I don’t like. The Falcons just had more grip. The shop was full of crap and I wouldn’t buy the Toyo’s over the Falcons again. Now I’m buying the FWP AT4’s for my Suburban. Falcon has come a long way. Bad ass tire that I’d recommended to everyone.
Best tire I have used for my 2008 Ford F250 Super Duty with welding equipment installed were the Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain A/Ts. 35x12.5r17. I wish Goodyear still made them...
Looking forward to an AT winter driving test. I've got a theory some of the less aggressive more road-biased ATs will do better than the big chunky offroady ones. I'm surprised the KO2 did as well as it did in the snow, my experience is they aren't near as good as some competitors on the compact snow and ice we drive on most of the winter. I honestly found they even struggled with wet pavement. But it's been six years since I ran a KO2 on one of my own machines.
In the Canadian rockies you're guaranteed six months of full on winter driving, three months of likely winter driving, and three months where it probably won't but definitely could snow on you. I'm currently running studded winters and swapping to all-weathers for the summer, but with three vehicles I drive regularly, keeping two sets of tires around is a bit expensive and takes up a fair bit of space. I just haven't been convinced there's an all-weather tire out there that'll actually work for me in all conditions.
I'm currently shopping for summers for a midsize truck and winters for a 3/4 ton for next year. I'm not really sold on studs unless I can get them factory studded and there's not a lot of market there for a 3/4 ton. If there's an AW out there that does really well in the winter I'd be open to running that as a winter until they'll become a year-round tire when my seasonal tires wear out. But I'm pessimistic about finding that year-round tire.
All terrains are a compromise in all seasons. A set of dedicated winters and summers/all terrains is initially more expensive but I’ve gotten 6-8 seasons of great performance on each set. After all terrains are a bit worn, they suck in all seasons. So buying new all terrains every couple years and still having half the performance of dedicated tires, that’s like a double compromise. Cheapskates loose twice as hard as they think they are gaining
@@3000fpe So what tire would you suggest for a day in late August when it could be -10°C and snowing in the morning and scorching +30°C and bluebird skies by the afternoon? There's a reason I run all-weather tires in the summer.
It would be nice if there was an all-weather tire that actually functioned in the winter. Thus far my experience is otherwise, and I'm pretty sure I made that clear in my comment, and also that I was pessimistic about finding it, and that I'm already running dedicated winters. I don't think it's really being a cheapskate when two sets of decent 120+ load index tires could set you back $4k.
@ um I was basically reinforcing or supporting everything you said. I wasn’t being critical of what you said. Perhaps there was something I said that came across the wrong way.
@@3000fpe You offered no new info, you condescendingly repeated a bunch of info as if I didn't understand what I had typed, and then you used a condescending pejorative to describe someone trying to accomplish what I was wishing was possible to acheive. I'm not sure how you expected that to come across in any way other than the one it did.
@@gogmorgoaway you stated that you were looking for an all weather tire that did good in the winter. There aren’t any that compare to a dedicated winter. So I was trying to say that don’t bother looking for compromise and keep running two sets, like you have been. Trying to tell you that you’re doing the right thing. Don’t fuck it up. You’re on the right track. You seem like you like to argue with people even if they agree. Yeesh. Stunned or just struggling?
The Kumho Road Venture AT52 has been around for some time also, I'm surprised by how well it did since it is also quite reasonably priced,
Agreed. I think the onroad focus helps in these sorts of tests
@@tyrereviews Yeah, one thing that might be interesting is mud performance, it's not a situation that you encounter often enough depending on where you live to get a dedicated tyre, but when you do, it may be the difference between getting stuck or passing through.
It's probably there that the Khumo might be lacking, and by the way they look I suspect the Nitto, BFG and Toyo would handle mud much better
Just put the Toyos on my 23 Sierra after a Goodyear failure on a recommendation from my tire dealer. I’m mostly highway and gravel roads with a small amount of off-road and of course some snow/ice being in Iowa. We shall see how they hold up.
This video took a lot of time and money. As a consumer, thank you for the info.
I love the Falken Wildpeaks on our Rivian R1S! Best bang for the buck. :) I would consider buying some KO3s in the future when my tread wears out (which will be looooong time coming).
For some reason it’s popular to hate on k02’s these days, but they’re great. Plus perhaps most importantly for a brodozer…they look the best
So helpful. Would be nice for you to talk about the chemical reaction of nitrates and nitrites when cooked at high temps. Seems like there are studies showing high temps cause issues
Having a grid where we can weight it to our own preference is absolutely brilliant! Would love to see this type of grid for all season passenger tires also.
Amazing, been waiting for this. Thank-you, I’m now well informed.
How come you didn't include the Nokia AT Outpost? Its one of the very best!
I will be next time!
VREDESTEIN PINZA AT... would love to see this one compared. Thanks for the informative and entertaining videos
Great testing format! Please do a test of the newly released Nitto Terra Grappler G3. I’m stuck between getting those the Falken AT4W.
I would love to see top 5 mud tires tested especially in snow I’ve run KM, KM2, KM3, and the Nitto Mud Grappler trail. In the dry powder they’ve performed well. Icy conditions were hard on the original KMs but the compound got softer with the 2 and 3. The nitros have been a joy in the snow only thing they are a heavier tire so definitely want to keep an eye on that for the rigs with lower torque and HP.
Excellent information. Thank you all for your hard work and sharing it.
Just curious… what country/state you guys did the test in? Thanks for your time.
Be curious to see the OEM KO2 Vs the Falken. Tough test but dig the results
@tyrereviews Great video, nice to have a a professional take on reviews using repeatable methods and practices and data presentation.
I found your tests and the TfL off-road channel snow test of the similar tires and was surprised to see the Falken Wildpeak AT4W perform so bad in the snow for them and come last for yourself even if not quite as bad as they experienced. As you mentioned in your review, the SL variant being lighter with a different compound maybe compared to the LT, might fare better in the snow. The AT3W SL load was definitely a different compound to LT but doesn’t seemed to be stated with the AT4w anywhere.
Would be interested to see that data if you ever get the chance to compare i.e. P285/70R17 SL tire weighing 53.4lbs vs LT 285/70R17 tire weighing in at 65.4lbs and give an idea of LT vs SL applications and impacts on handling and braking.
Great reviews and interesting info once again!!
Cheers!
I have Kumo on my Jeep wrangler they are quite I’m waiting for snow. Just got Falken Rubteck for my truck there quite too waiting to which one is better
Great to see these test, but i'm a little sad you weren't able to get the Bridgestone or even the Firestone into the test :(
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Agreed. This is a 'Best Of', but the top 6 from the last 'Best 'Of 9 AT's' didn't make the cut? Thanks
I can only guess the distinction here is separating truly aggressive AT tires like the BFG AT KO2/3 from more road-biased mild AT tires like the BFG Trail Terrain. While I wouldn't expect much comingling between the two, I am interested in how they compare. Predictably, the mild at probably have lower rolling resistance and higher dry performance, but I'm most interested in snow and ice performance.
@@mikesoda5707 i've tested the Trail Terrain against the Toyo in this test, so while not perfect (that was p metric and this is LT) it's a pretty good cross reference point www.tire-reviews.com/Article/2022-Tire-Reviews-All-Terrain-Tire-Test.htm
Hey Jonathan!
Big fan of your videos. Always fun to watch as Im a fellow tyre nerd myself.
I have a good and fun video/test idea.
What if you tried winter tyres mounted in the wrong direction?
Lets say a set of central european, nordic and studded tyres?
Its a good reminder to people to show the importance of it and I as a nerd would see it as big fun to see the actual difference it makes.
Cheers from Sweden.
Would have been great to see the goodyear duratracs tested here too! They seem to be some of the most popular in my area aside from the falkens which my tire guy doesn't like how the compound wears over time. Ive got ko2s on an h3 hummer and duratracs on my ram 1500 and theres a huge difference in wet traction for sure. But I'd love to see the numbers running them on the same platform. Nice video though!
I went to your site and tweeted the weighting a bit. I think I’ll be going with the BF Goodrich ko2
I'm on my second set of Nitto Terra Grapplers with my 2004 Dodge 3500 diesel. The G2s have a 3 peak snowflake rating. I've been really happy with them plus I got 120k, km out of the last set with regular tire rotations.
Let’s gooooooo, my favorite notification
Yes, the BFG is firmer...the Tri-Gard sidewall makes the sidewall less prone to punctures or blowouts of the tire from heavy impacts. I'll take durability all day long over a little ride comfort.
Excellent review! Thank you! Really need the KO3 in this or a at least a follow up.
Why didn’t you test the Goodyear Duratrac Rt??? I have them on my Silverado and love them!!!
please do this test again and add the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT and any other premium tire. This was a great review!
Will do!
It would be nice to know the size and style of tires tested without freeze-framing the video. It would also be nice to see a conversion chart/calculator on your website to translate whatever jibberish the tire size nomenclature I am seeing on the sidewalls of these tires relates to the sizing criteria that we have used (in North America at least) since the 1970's (i.e. tread width, aspect ratio, wheel size).
Down the road, may consider testing the same tire in LT versus P-metric and compare fuel economy/acceleration/braking differences as well. Nice work on this test overall
You should test the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracks (New one) and the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/Ts next.
I went to the website and redid the percentages. No suprise, the BFG came out on top for my usage. Mild off-roading, daily driving in all conditions, and towing a trailer from time to time. I’m currently on a set of KO2’s, with about 50,xxx miles on them. In the near future, a set of KO3’s.
Now, that bad about the KO2’s. They have gotten “hard” at the age and mileage they are. No surprise. They are by no means “bad” but a lite truck, with 3.73 gears and 385 horsepower, they spin easier on cold, highly traveled pavement. But, they still perform off road, and in the snow.
I run a Falken AT3W in a P metric. As I have read, the LT tyres have a slightly different compound and tread depth. These are 2 ply sidewall tyres, KO3 is 3 ply, don't know about the Kumho. That will explain the sharp reactions to bumps. It would be nice if tyre companies didn't swap and choose on tyre build by tyre size! I'm a fan of the AT3W's and will probably go to the AT4W's when I need new boots. KO3 will get some investigation though.
which one if your only worried about snow? found the breakdown a tad confusing but appreciate your video. cheers
I run kumho's once on my jeep. They did throw stones hard. Many times I looked to make sure a rock didn't break a window.
I run the falken wildpeaks at4 and love them. Little to no vibration/noise on road and perform just as well as my bfg ats in the past. Also have a 60,000 mi life compared to bf at 50,000
Awesome, great to see this review come out! More emphasis on offroad or rock crawling might be useful - maybe time to go up steep and loose terrain?
there was an option of a hill start test but the weather ruined it. Plus it's hard to get really clean data from such a test.
This is a great service you do.