The 4 Horseman formation, Austin 3:16, Dusty's Hard Times ...almost as if giving premier professional wrestlers free reign on the mic allows for some of the most important (& organic) angles in all of the history of the greatest sport of them all, professional wrestling.
That would be only "for you" MARK. Because , PUNK MARK, that was a fully SCRIPTED PROMO which of course , is absolutely the opposite of the entire aforementioned point. Just goes to show you how shitty all the scripted promos are that one time once in well over a decade someone cuts a nonshitty scripted promo all the MARKS left watching mark out like clowns beleiving the "pipe bomb" was....real.
Ha ha, I guess I'm glad I didn't mention Heyman's raw pipe bomb as well, lest you further hurt my feelings by calling me a mark or your own ignorance in not being able to tell when reality supercedes whatever script you think Punk was reading off of when he vented his very real anger at his former employer. Good day...😄
I firmly believe that there is not another living soul that knows more Professional Wrestling history or info than Jim. Always my favorite manager growing up and still my favorite go to for wrestling podcasts
I love the fact that the formation of the most legendary faction in professional wrestling was natural, it didn't come from a booker and even the name was a fluke thanks to a Arn Anderson promo, all wrestling fans have to watch "Ric Flair and the 4 Horsemen" dvd to understand the greatness of this group before it went downhill with members like Sid Vicious, Kendall Windham, Hiro Matsuda and others
Usually how the best stuff happens, it was completely improvised, and thus why the scripting of absolutely everything like Vince does now is a detriment.
When wrestling was good awesome the shit!!!! It wasn't a 3-hour long soap opera it was wrestling and it had a storyline behind the beef and had a point
Although this did not form the horseman, I remember there was an incident in Atlanta, where Dusty Rhodes came to assist Ric Flair who was being attacked by the Russians; he was able to chase the Russians out of the ring, only to be attacked by the Andersons, and Ric Flair. I always felt this was what got the ball rolling, which led to the formation of the four horseman.
@@lossonleonard7118 yeah, I live in the upper midwest, so unless you had cable you could not watch wrestling from the mid Atlantic/Georgia area, but the magazines picked up on it. They had said that it was in a cage, and Sam Houston, Magnum TA, and the Rock and Roll express tried to climb over the cage to help Dusty Rhodes; whoever thought of that knew what they were doing.
@@j.c.ca.o.l7035 i meant UNION, not reunion. Yes, it was a new alliace. Andersons were allied with Flair as "cousins" and started running with Tully. There were comments and questions about Flair's allegiance to that group in the weeks before he jumped Dusty. They were casually calling themselves Horsemen for several weeks before it became more of an "official faction." Babydoll was still with Tully when all of this was going down.
I'd heard it was based on interview. They were running low on time and hasn't given them promo time. The 4 cut a promo together and Arn said they were like the IV Horsemen.
I know from a technical wrestling standpoint, Mongo was hardly the greatest, but as far as being a legit "tough guy" I think he fit in well from that aspect--and I'm trying so hard not to mention the Canadian douche... Anyway, maybe I'm not as down on Mongo because I always enjoyed his back and forths with Heenan when he was an announcer...
Billy Jack Haynes was one of the guys who got me into wrestling as a little kid. Haynes, JYD, Piper and Machoman. I remember Haynes in his green gear, and his Full Nelson feud with Hercules at Wrestlemania 3 or 4. As a kid I always wondered why he was never 'pushed' (even though I didn't know that term then), but that seemed to be the case for most of my favourites of that era, from Bad News Brown to Piper. Haynes is why I like Nick Comoroto in AEW I suspect, because he reminds me of Billy Jack.
I remembered watching that promo and Cornette is right, it was from Atlanta TV. I don't know if it was the Saturday show or Sunday show or morning or evening or even day it came on but I can confirm that this then 13 year old saw this historic promo that is apparently lost to history now. WWE bought the Turner JCP library, but not every episode that was ever broadcast was saved on tape or stayed recorded. Nobody in 1985 knew DVD'S were coming, well there was Laserdisc, but nobody didn't think they would make a fortune selling vintage wrestling content on disc.
The Four Horsemen formed because Crockett started booking top heels vs. top faces six-man matches in fall 1985. The Andersons were always in the match, but they would fill it out with either Tully or Flair depending on who was on the card and what else they were doing on the card. The first reference to the four horsemen was Arn Anderson doing a local promo for St. Louis which aired on 10/26/85 where he referred to them in a six-man as "the four horses". Then he gradually did more elaborate promos The "horsemen" thing caught on toward the end of 1985 with the fans pushing it rather than the promotion. Buddy Landell getting fired in December made JJ Dillion available as a manager, but the group thing would have happened with or without him.
@@nygreek743 Not sure about the whole "nobody's home" but between age & health issues it's hard to tell it's even him. ua-cam.com/video/RD8rZYQFzNM/v-deo.html
I always thought the two best incarnations of the Horsemen were: Flair, Arn, Ole, and Tully and the incarnation of the Horsemen in 88 with Flair, Arn, Windham and Tully. The worst incarnation by far, by default was the incarnation with Paul Roma. Look, I understand they were trying, but putting Roma in the Horsemen was as Cornette would say, picking up a turd by the clean end. Roma even admitted that he wasn't Horsemen material.
promo: ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html Wait, so is Jim saying baby doll wasn't with Tully when the horsemen were born? Cus I just saw a clip from 85 with Arn calling them the 4 of them horsemen but Tully was still with baby doll and Arn/Olie were tag Champs. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html
Yeah, you are right. They were saying "Horseman" as early as Fall 85, after jumping Dusty. Revisionist history has taken over on this one. They had teased the union of the 4 for weeks on TV, too. People forget that. It wasn't nearly as random as made out to be.
His point about not remembering your own shit is so true in any career. I’ve been in my field close to fifteen years and I can’t remember what I did last week.
I was the biggest WWF growing up but I did love the Horsemen and was the only reason I would watch the WCW. I had always wanted something similar back then in WWF even though they had heel stables nothing was like the Horsemen. If anything maybe The Million Dollar Man's stable when had Virgil, Andre the Giant and managed by Bobby the Brain but still wasn't as big or as threatening as The Four Horsemen.
*Billy Jack avoided fights?* What? Everyone knows Billy Jack *beat the shit out of Iron Mike Sharp* backstage for no good reason & *was quickly fired for it.*
Baby doll left tully when he slapped her 4 taking that trip when she said jj gave her the plane tickets from tully as a gift...jj denied it tully slapped her n dusty came out 2 save her..this was on www...but jj admitted he gave her the tickets on mid atlantic wrestling lol..jj was tullys manager the very next week...so bby doll leaving tully n jj being tullys manager happened basically in the same sequence
I was thinking just based on my own memories……. Flair was the kayfabe cosuin of the Andersons…… and tghre 3 of them were feuding with Dusty. Then Tully was feuding with Magnum who was an assocaite of Dusty. So the 4 of them often ran into eachother since Myabe Dusty and Magnum were fighting soemone and the otehrs get involved and so it was like the enemy of my enemy is my friend and they sort of starting haging otu more and more until Arn’s statement and they because a group organically.
Considering the fact that all recollections agree the Four Horsemen were unofficially formed during an interview/promo, where is said promo?! I've never seen any clips. There must be footage of it somewhere. You'd think it would be a highly viewed segment given it's significance. (or am I just a bumblefuck that's never seen it)
Billy Jack was a wasted talent. He had the ability to work with anyone. He had the size, the look, the baby face draw almost like an oversized steamboat. But he just did not want to leave Oregon for any long periods of time. He could have been an IC champion or a US champion and chase the heel world champion around and stoke heat by never getting the win with the belt , but having a convincing tussle at it. That would have sold tickets for three years and never been boring, because the fans would always go in thinking “ ok this time he wins “ and be mad enough when he didn’t to buy the same ticket four months down the road.
During a late 1985 edition of World Championship Wrestling, Arn referenced the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse while talking about himself, Ole, Tully, and Ric while Tully was in the ring about to have a preliminary bout.
I was always under the impression that the horseman picked up where the Minnesota wrecking crew left off. I never saw the wrecking crew but I witnessed the horseman and I member flair being a big baby face as a young young kid I was born 1980 but I member. It’s crazy how my life has revolved around wrestling lol!
Horesman were already coming together before Landell disappeared. Go back and watch the tapes. They were building an alliance with the four (minus JJ) leading up to Starcade.
I remember catching when the horseman when they kicked out Lex Luger for Barry Windham I was like 6 years old , I was like why would you kick out Luger he is in better shape than Windam. On the horsemen Dvd Flair said that Luger put the Look into the horseman .
Great explanation by Jim for 1 of the primary reasons that wrestlers can never get their stories straight & why that may not effect the legitimacy as much as it may seem. Also thanks to JC for not talking about Covid or politics in this clip. I have a policy to downvote anytime that it brought up & I didn’t want to downvote this one.
Down votes count as an engagement the same as an up vote does. So it actually helps the video. The only negative was that it let viewers know some people didn't like it... But they've taken the counter off now. So nobody even knows how many dislikes there are now.
Not since the 4 horsemen?!? What!?! Revelations is a prophecy of the FUTURE… it hasn’t happened yet…… As an atheist it’s all BS but that is the best part of the bible
The 4 Horseman formation, Austin 3:16, Dusty's Hard Times ...almost as if giving premier professional wrestlers free reign on the mic allows for some of the most important (& organic) angles in all of the history of the greatest sport of them all, professional wrestling.
Wait, you mean that was better than SUFFERING SUCCOTASH or This is your life Bayley?
@@smarkslowplay3512Cool "writing staff" huh bro? Katie Vick 4 Life.
For me, CM Punk's legendary Raw pipe bomb is up there with all the classic promos you mentioned...
That would be only "for you" MARK. Because , PUNK MARK, that was a fully SCRIPTED PROMO which of course , is absolutely the opposite of the entire aforementioned point. Just goes to show you how shitty all the scripted promos are that one time once in well over a decade someone cuts a nonshitty scripted promo all the MARKS left watching mark out like clowns beleiving the "pipe bomb" was....real.
Ha ha, I guess I'm glad I didn't mention Heyman's raw pipe bomb as well, lest you further hurt my feelings by calling me a mark or your own ignorance in not being able to tell when reality supercedes whatever script you think Punk was reading off of when he vented his very real anger at his former employer. Good day...😄
I would love to sit down for a few hours and talk to jim about wrestling. He is a fountain of knowledge.
Same mate.
My luck would be the second my mouth would open my brain would shut down lol
You kinda are already with his podcast, just sayin😉
Or you could just listen to him repeat the same 20 stories over and over again on here
@@michaelhauser6440 pretty sure he's told more than 20 stories but hey, keep being blinded by your hatred of him.
As long as Jim keeps it to wrestling, he is a mountain of knowledge and entertainment.
Every time cartoon Jim puts his finger in his ear, he hears "WOO!"
"You ain't gonna like your next destination, Finger Ric"
This is the Jim Cornette that I love! No laughing and scoffing at people's questions and straight into the answer with incredible detailed memory....
Guy who hates laughing
And none of his retarded political takes.
I firmly believe that there is not another living soul that knows more Professional Wrestling history or info than Jim. Always my favorite manager growing up and still my favorite go to for wrestling podcasts
its either him or conrad thompson speaking to someone with dementia
"If You're Going To Take A Baseball Bat To A Horsemen, Finish The Job" - Arn Anderson
Billy Jack gets mad respect for calling out Austin for being a woman beater though.
Well this comment didn't age too well now did it?
@@JustShootin Why austin is still a woman beater. What billy jack did didn't change that.
@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsmanhe killed his wife
@@rickyboby560 Is that supposed to make austin not a woman beater?
I love the fact that the formation of the most legendary faction in professional wrestling was natural, it didn't come from a booker and even the name was a fluke thanks to a Arn Anderson promo, all wrestling fans have to watch "Ric Flair and the 4 Horsemen" dvd to understand the greatness of this group before it went downhill with members like Sid Vicious, Kendall Windham, Hiro Matsuda and others
Usually how the best stuff happens, it was completely improvised, and thus why the scripting of absolutely everything like Vince does now is a detriment.
Overrated faction
No kendall
Kendall was a horseman!? 🤢🤮
Kendall was kind of an associate of Flair like Hiro in early 89 iirc. Kendall fought Sting and Luger and teamed up with his brother a few times
When wrestling was good awesome the shit!!!! It wasn't a 3-hour long soap opera it was wrestling and it had a storyline behind the beef and had a point
An off the cuff remark by Arn Andersen and we have the greatest heel stable ever...
Although this did not form the horseman, I remember there was an incident in Atlanta, where Dusty Rhodes came to assist Ric Flair who was being attacked by the Russians; he was able to chase the Russians out of the ring, only to be attacked by the Andersons, and Ric Flair. I always felt this was what got the ball rolling, which led to the formation of the four horseman.
I remember that. It was at the Omni. They got so much heat on them when they jumped on Rhodes that the place almost started a riot.
@@lossonleonard7118 yeah, I live in the upper midwest, so unless you had cable you could not watch wrestling from the mid Atlantic/Georgia area, but the magazines picked up on it. They had said that it was in a cage, and Sam Houston, Magnum TA, and the Rock and Roll express tried to climb over the cage to help Dusty Rhodes; whoever thought of that knew what they were doing.
They werw building toward the horsenan reunion before that.
@@mrgmusicclass Wasn't the Horseman a new gimmick?
@@j.c.ca.o.l7035 i meant UNION, not reunion. Yes, it was a new alliace. Andersons were allied with Flair as "cousins" and started running with Tully. There were comments and questions about Flair's allegiance to that group in the weeks before he jumped Dusty. They were casually calling themselves Horsemen for several weeks before it became more of an "official faction." Babydoll was still with Tully when all of this was going down.
I saw the promo. It was on tbs Saturday 6 o'clock show.
Ric Flair - Conquest
Arn Anderson - War
Tully Blanchard - Famine
[Insert 4th guy here] - Death
(holds up four fingers)
RIP Young Dolph
UH HUNH!!!
Arn told the story about Buddy Landell on his podcast. Buddy was definitely his own worst enemy
Buddy did have talent.
Too many personal issues.
I'd heard it was based on interview. They were running low on time and hasn't given them promo time. The 4 cut a promo together and Arn said they were like the IV Horsemen.
I remember the fued with Billy Jack Haynes and Hercules Hernandez back in the 80s.. Good stuff, miss those days.
Last time I was this early I was taking care of "Horseman business"
That Arn with a glock promo has made me really wanna learn more about him and the 4 horseman. I would love to see/listen to a 4 Horseman watch-along.
Arn podcast with Conrad Thompson is as close as it gets. Really thorough job covering those years
Original 4 Horsemen were great in 1985.
Barry windham horsemen had potential.
Arn gave a great background on the formulation of the group he named as the 4 horsemen on his podcast.
ask arn not cornshit
The episode of JCP with the 4 Horsemen reference is on UA-cam. It's on the same episode as Dusty's "hard times" promo.
Damn! That must be like the BEST episode, then.👍
P.S. A computer took yo job, BEH BEH!
I think we can all agree that Mongo and Roma were by far the best members.
Chris Benoit and Brian Pillman are the best come on lol
I know from a technical wrestling standpoint, Mongo was hardly the greatest, but as far as being a legit "tough guy" I think he fit in well from that aspect--and I'm trying so hard not to mention the Canadian douche...
Anyway, maybe I'm not as down on Mongo because I always enjoyed his back and forths with Heenan when he was an announcer...
Mongo is an Icon
LMMFAO
No mentions of Flexy Lexy yet.... 😅
Billy Jack Haynes was one of the guys who got me into wrestling as a little kid.
Haynes, JYD, Piper and Machoman.
I remember Haynes in his green gear, and his Full Nelson feud with Hercules at Wrestlemania 3 or 4.
As a kid I always wondered why he was never 'pushed' (even though I didn't know that term then), but that seemed to be the case for most of my favourites of that era, from Bad News Brown to Piper.
Haynes is why I like Nick Comoroto in AEW I suspect, because he reminds me of Billy Jack.
If Dusty Rhodes were still alive, AEW would be so much bigger than what it is today
I seem to remember watching Atlanta WTBS show in early '86 and three of the four men calling themselves The Three Horsemen before it changed to four.
I remembered watching that promo and Cornette is right, it was from Atlanta TV. I don't know if it was the Saturday show or Sunday show or morning or evening or even day it came on but I can confirm that this then 13 year old saw this historic promo that is apparently lost to history now. WWE bought the Turner JCP library, but not every episode that was ever broadcast was saved on tape or stayed recorded. Nobody in 1985 knew DVD'S were coming, well there was Laserdisc, but nobody didn't think they would make a fortune selling vintage wrestling content on disc.
I remember seeing it somewhere, I want to say it was a Crockett promotions VHS tape back in the day probably mid to late 80's.
It was a local promo. If it was on TBS, we would see that clip replayed over and over
The first reference of the "4 Horseman" came from Arn. He kinda used a biblical quote I believe.
What movie was Kerry supposed to be in? I’ve never heard that story before
All 4 were together in late 85 when Magnum and Dusty hit the ring to challenge them a week before starcade
Arn has always looked like a high school gym teacher. His look has never changed.
He looks more like Andy Reid with that sheet over his mouth.
@@anthonymackey222 lmao 🤣
undisputed best gang ever
The best members were the original 4, the other added members watered down the effect the 4 horsemen had
The Barry Windham , Flair , Arn and Tully combo was very good.
I agree
Kevin Nash, Sean Waltman, Konnan and Buff Bagwell...
I remember that interview that appeared on NWA on cable , but I thought they were already formed.
Good ol Upstate NY
$21m in 1986.....damn
Good business....
I SAW IT ON TBS.
The Four Horsemen formed because Crockett started booking top heels vs. top faces six-man matches in fall 1985. The Andersons were always in the match, but they would fill it out with either Tully or Flair depending on who was on the card and what else they were doing on the card.
The first reference to the four horsemen was Arn Anderson doing a local promo for St. Louis which aired on 10/26/85 where he referred to them in a six-man as "the four horses". Then he gradually did more elaborate promos
The "horsemen" thing caught on toward the end of 1985 with the fans pushing it rather than the promotion.
Buddy Landell getting fired in December made JJ Dillion available as a manager, but the group thing would have happened with or without him.
Does anyone have the clip of the famous Arn promo that started the 4 Horsemen
The original lineup will always be the best & I'm always wondering why Vince tries to sell the Horsemen with Windham as the greatest incarnation....
With Windham, it WAS the best incarnation of the Horsemen. Better than Ole or Luger.
I’m now curious about the Billy Jack videos hahaha
I will tell you dude, he is a shell of his former self, and you can tell just looking at him; the lights are on, but nobody's home.
@@j.c.ca.o.l7035 link?
@@nygreek743 Not sure about the whole "nobody's home" but between age & health issues it's hard to tell it's even him. ua-cam.com/video/RD8rZYQFzNM/v-deo.html
@@jpistolas thanks
Upstate New York is red Jim. Get some!!
I think Cornette has Photographic Memory or something similar to that, just the way he describes how he retains his knowledge.
Well, he wrotEverything down which is a mnemonic device in and of itself.
4 seconds in and Cornette's already burying a state
What's with the green flashing?
He turned heel in Portland Billy Jack Hanes
I always thought the two best incarnations of the Horsemen were: Flair, Arn, Ole, and Tully and the incarnation of the Horsemen in 88 with Flair, Arn, Windham and Tully. The worst incarnation by far, by default was the incarnation with Paul Roma. Look, I understand they were trying, but putting Roma in the Horsemen was as Cornette would say, picking up a turd by the clean end. Roma even admitted that he wasn't Horsemen material.
The promo’s on UA-cam!
promo: ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html
Wait, so is Jim saying baby doll wasn't with Tully when the horsemen were born? Cus I just saw a clip from 85 with Arn calling them the 4 of them horsemen but Tully was still with baby doll and Arn/Olie were tag Champs. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html
Yeah, you are right. They were saying "Horseman" as early as Fall 85, after jumping Dusty. Revisionist history has taken over on this one. They had teased the union of the 4 for weeks on TV, too. People forget that. It wasn't nearly as random as made out to be.
Does footage exist of that first 4H interview where Arn came up with the name?
If it does it hasn't been seen in 30 plus
Yes . I think its even on the DVD ...he mentions them riding in like the four horseman of the apocalypse .. the rest is history .
Yes
ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/d9yq-x0eyE4/v-deo.html
When I was growing up, The Horsemen and The Varsity Club were the quintessential wrestling villains.
His point about not remembering your own shit is so true in any career. I’ve been in my field close to fifteen years and I can’t remember what I did last week.
What's that noise coming from your hand?
Oh, Ric Flair's been drinking again
He had a program with Hercules
Lol what is Jim’s issue with upstate NY? I’m from there
I was the biggest WWF growing up but I did love the Horsemen and was the only reason I would watch the WCW. I had always wanted something similar back then in WWF even though they had heel stables nothing was like the Horsemen. If anything maybe The Million Dollar Man's stable when had Virgil, Andre the Giant and managed by Bobby the Brain but still wasn't as big or as threatening as The Four Horsemen.
Billy Jack Haynes has gone totally off the rails
Mushed brain, drugs
@@smarkslowplay3512 I doubt it's even drugs, he sounds just naturally nutty.
Ole worked so much better then Buddy
Flair became heel after breaking Dusty’s leg
*Billy Jack avoided fights?* What? Everyone knows Billy Jack *beat the shit out of Iron Mike Sharp* backstage for no good reason & *was quickly fired for it.*
We love jim
Here before Jay Lethal & CM Punk have an AJ Lee on a Pole Match in AEW … 👀
They both already had a AJ Lee on a pole match if ya know what I mean….. gigity..😂😂😂
@@Mahinskerrr I was thinking the same....
@@Mahinskerrr gigity
*Laughs in Brian Last*
4k audio
He also managed Tully
Baby doll left tully when he slapped her 4 taking that trip when she said jj gave her the plane tickets from tully as a gift...jj denied it tully slapped her n dusty came out 2 save her..this was on www...but jj admitted he gave her the tickets on mid atlantic wrestling lol..jj was tullys manager the very next week...so bby doll leaving tully n jj being tullys manager happened basically in the same sequence
I was thinking just based on my own memories……. Flair was the kayfabe cosuin of the Andersons…… and tghre 3 of them were feuding with Dusty. Then Tully was feuding with Magnum who was an assocaite of Dusty. So the 4 of them often ran into eachother since Myabe Dusty and Magnum were fighting soemone and the otehrs get involved and so it was like the enemy of my enemy is my friend and they sort of starting haging otu more and more until Arn’s statement and they because a group organically.
Considering the fact that all recollections agree the Four Horsemen were unofficially formed during an interview/promo, where is said promo?! I've never seen any clips. There must be footage of it somewhere. You'd think it would be a highly viewed segment given it's significance. (or am I just a bumblefuck that's never seen it)
I don't know if this is the first, but it's certainly before they were officially a group.
ua-cam.com/video/nJnQzuLIZXQ/v-deo.html
Sorry Jim. It was a local promo
Not 100% true he punched mike sharpe for hitting him to hard in the ring, was fired from wwf from being high off ghb...
Billy Jack Haynes was not someone to mess with for any reason. Some guys just have that aura about them.
In my opinion managers like Jim Cornette or Bobby Heenan are great storytellers because they know more about facts and figures than wrestlers.
I thought Gene Anderson was a horseman before Tully. As the had the Andersons as Flair's cousins
No gene
No, he teamed with Arn but long before the horsemen.
No Gene was long gone by the time the Horseman formed.
@@maxxdahl6062 Gene and Arn?
@@danielburger1775 Yep. I believe so.
Billy Jack was a wasted talent. He had the ability to work with anyone. He had the size, the look, the baby face draw almost like an oversized steamboat. But he just did not want to leave Oregon for any long periods of time. He could have been an IC champion or a US champion and chase the heel world champion around and stoke heat by never getting the win with the belt , but having a convincing tussle at it. That would have sold tickets for three years and never been boring, because the fans would always go in thinking “ ok this time he wins “ and be mad enough when he didn’t to buy the same ticket four months down the road.
All that and he was wrong lol
Stuck in 86 again
Damn that bald spot is rough on Arn! Ha.
Corny, I’m catching up…….
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Arn Anderson said it first
During a late 1985 edition of World Championship Wrestling, Arn referenced the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse while talking about himself, Ole, Tully, and Ric while Tully was in the ring about to have a preliminary bout.
Sting was cool, Luger was a perft fit but Roma & Sid were horrible! Nothing beats the original ever 🤼♀️4️⃣
I was always under the impression that the horseman picked up where the Minnesota wrecking crew left off. I never saw the wrecking crew but I witnessed the horseman and I member flair being a big baby face as a young young kid I was born 1980 but I member. It’s crazy how my life has revolved around wrestling lol!
Ole hated Flair
Jim Cornette was a smart mark before he was in the business lol
Why does Arn have a bald spot and Ole's got a full head of hair?
Ole's bald spot was in the back.
Damn I guess I’ll take 2nd lol. Have a great Friday Cult members
More of stuff like this and less aew Gaga
Horesman were already coming together before Landell disappeared. Go back and watch the tapes. They were building an alliance with the four (minus JJ) leading up to Starcade.
I farted
I heard Double A's answer on how the Horseman's were formed. I dont need Jims fuck'n storey.
Then don't watch/listen you peabrain
@@smarkslowplay3512 I dont ! I quit a LONG time ago ! I tune in every now and again and its still the same , tired , old shit 😣
@KaneMagus I listen to Conrad & Arn, Keepen it Real with Conan & Disco. Jim is cuckold, and believes in 15 minute headlocks.
I remember catching when the horseman when they kicked out Lex Luger for Barry Windham I was like 6 years old , I was like why would you kick out Luger he is in better shape than Windam. On the horsemen Dvd Flair said that Luger put the Look into the horseman .
Great explanation by Jim for 1 of the primary reasons that wrestlers can never get their stories straight & why that may not effect the legitimacy as much as it may seem.
Also thanks to JC for not talking about Covid or politics in this clip. I have a policy to downvote anytime that it brought up & I didn’t want to downvote this one.
Down votes count as an engagement the same as an up vote does. So it actually helps the video.
The only negative was that it let viewers know some people didn't like it... But they've taken the counter off now. So nobody even knows how many dislikes there are now.
Not since the 4 horsemen?!? What!?!
Revelations is a prophecy of the FUTURE… it hasn’t happened yet……
As an atheist it’s all BS but that is the best part of the bible
The "Four Horsemen" are Jupiter, Saturn, Mars and Mercury.
It's astrological, horoscope mumbo jumbo.
I think everyone that listens here understands Corny is the rain man of Wrestling.. it's like his sad super power..
IMO, They didn’t give Roma the “Credit” he earned, jealously by Flair! Roma got the chix & had the dong 🦴 rumor has it 🤣
93rd
‘Armed’ Anderson seems to Serious a Guy to be out Partying Regularly … 🤷🏿♂️
To him it wasn't partying......it was "horseman business"
I hate four dogs they was not about nothing but boring as hell