Mirage F-1ED Tries to Take on The Mighty F-14A Tomcat | Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2022
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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Рік тому +28

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    • @luissuarez7896
      @luissuarez7896 Рік тому

      I’m first finally

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Рік тому

      F-22 VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR
      F-35 VS MIG-31 BVR revenge against R-37!👍

    • @Miguelcooldude777
      @Miguelcooldude777 Рік тому

      F-35C Vs F/A-18 Super Hornet

    • @Hangar-zu8xg
      @Hangar-zu8xg Рік тому

      JF-17 v F-14 in BVR. Let's see those 50 mile SD-10s

    • @daviddoyle982
      @daviddoyle982 Рік тому

      Okay, but now I want @Growling Sidewinder to switch aircraft, as said in Top Gun: Maverick, “it’s not the aircraft, it’s the pilot”, or something to that affect lol.

  • @tmytyson
    @tmytyson Рік тому +224

    GS first losing the 1-circle: "Ah! Call an ambulance!"
    GS immediately winning the overshoot: "But not for me!"

  • @AndyAttrition
    @AndyAttrition Рік тому +507

    Whoever flew the F-14 should take a look at the old Top gun instruction vids. He does everything the instructors would tell him not to do.

    • @tituslaronius
      @tituslaronius Рік тому +4

      @@davidsmith8997 yuup

    • @Tinus111
      @Tinus111 Рік тому +50

      True, the Tomcat pilot does not really use the advantages the F-14 has over the Mirage F-1 in a dogfight, or any other jet in fact. I think this guy would lose his F-14 even if GS would fly the Yak-52 :P

    • @YT-zd3eu
      @YT-zd3eu Рік тому +14

      I think he/she hates F-14 too much and just tried to humiliate it against F-1

    • @piotrmazur9744
      @piotrmazur9744 Рік тому +1

      Where can i find it?

    • @HRPkatsu
      @HRPkatsu Рік тому +15

      This guy dont have any clue what he is doing on that 14 hahahahaha.

  • @sledgehammerk35
    @sledgehammerk35 Рік тому +22

    I am literally screaming at my computer screen for the F-14 pilot to go vertical lol.

  • @Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord
    @Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord Рік тому +231

    I totally didn't expect this outocome! Well played GS, but I feel the F-14 pilot didn't get the fight right.

  • @TheCarbonade
    @TheCarbonade Рік тому +50

    02:16
    I was able to turn off the warning sounds with the switch labeled "Warning Horn Switch", it is on the lower right hand side panel along with the RWR switch (row of switches above the 6 white square buttons on the right).

  • @jurestormchaser5382
    @jurestormchaser5382 Рік тому +79

    This really wasn't an F1 vs F-14 fight, the pilot skill difference was way too big for this to be meaningful.

    • @Clarkem1
      @Clarkem1 Рік тому +2

      F14 flys alot like me when I stoll didn't have any head track method.
      Hard to keep tabs on enemy's flight.

    • @JiveCinema
      @JiveCinema Рік тому +1

      I feel the same way. GS is an elite pilot.

    • @catfood_03_4stray
      @catfood_03_4stray Рік тому

      At low altitude the F1 has a higher G-limit and an excellent aerodynamic coefficient. At high altitude the F-14 has wing aera and on request it may have either wingspan and better instant turn ( variable geometry ) or swept back wing and higher acceleration or sustained turn. The F1 is a formidable aggressor and it is still used in that role. If the F-5E is in position to score victories against the F-14 the F1 can do it better.

  • @hydraplayer3315
    @hydraplayer3315 Рік тому +16

    It's not the plane, it's the pilot.

  • @Andy_XT
    @Andy_XT Рік тому +17

    No, no. Now you do it again and you fly the Tomcat, this time!

  • @cosmicjester6341
    @cosmicjester6341 Рік тому +89

    You know, I'd really love to see some 2 v 2 dogfights at some point ;-)

    • @kyloben8537
      @kyloben8537 Рік тому +1

      same

    • @jakeawad2531
      @jakeawad2531 Рік тому +1

      Agreed

    • @simplewolf5946
      @simplewolf5946 Рік тому +6

      That sounds awesome. Fights with a simulated hard deck sounds like another cool idea. simulating the way actual bfm/acm is taught

    • @fortdriver
      @fortdriver Рік тому

      agree

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson8009 Рік тому +99

    Why do I get the impression that if you were in the F-14 the Mirage wouldn't stand a chance?

    • @delfinenteddyson9865
      @delfinenteddyson9865 Рік тому +18

      I feel like everytime GS wants to 2 circle, he can always force it. I don't understand how he manages to lure people into the 1 circle.

    • @dospuntosuve5384
      @dospuntosuve5384 Рік тому

      Because it’s true

    • @brianwright9514
      @brianwright9514 Рік тому +7

      After the first fight, I expected the f-14 to immediately bail into the 2 circle fight after the overshoot. With an energy advantage, he'd be in the control zone in 700°. But it never happened.

  • @monfortnicolas5448
    @monfortnicolas5448 Рік тому +121

    As crazy as it sounds, the Mirage F1, unlike the Mirage 3 was actually superbly manoeuvrable at speeds between 300 kph IAS and 800 IAS, it had superstrong flaps and slats which made it super stable and gave it a lot of lift. Greeks put their F1's against their F16 and the F1 could give F16 some headaches. Mirage F1 was a very nice aircraft for its time

    • @lucasgomez3283
      @lucasgomez3283 Рік тому +3

      Idk about that one ngl, high mounted anhedral swept wings dont seem to inspire crazy maneuverability to me. Very similarly to the harrier actually, and the harrier isnt very renounded for its maneuverability either

    • @chrismoeller4517
      @chrismoeller4517 Рік тому +4

      @@lucasgomez3283 So the thing about anhedral wings is that they improve the aircraft’s ability to roll, which is why you see them on planes that otherwise wouldn’t like to roll like the Harrier and the C-17, and a lot of big Russian planes. Definitely a plus for maneuverability in a fighter. On the flip side, dihedral wings are seen on a lot of civil aviation aircraft like the Cessna and Boeing 777, because it makes them less inclined to roll all about the place, one of the reasons why the former is used as a trainer. It also helps soak up some of that turbulence. If you want more than that, check out the online version of FAA-H-8083 chapter 5.

  • @mastercheef8144
    @mastercheef8144 Рік тому +58

    The tomcat pilot doesn't learn from his mistakes. 1st round: 1-circle, overshoots, dead. 2nd round: 1-circle, overshoots, dead. 3rd round: 1-circle, overshoots, dead. Here's some common sense: If your plane is far superior in a certain aspect of the dogfight; use that to your advantage. Do not keep trying to force something you've lost to 2 attempts prior to the 3rd. He should've been constantly applying pressure on GS, and forcing him into the 2-circle rate fight. The tomcat will out-rate 90% of the aircraft in DCS, so use that advantage.

    • @Name-ps9fx
      @Name-ps9fx Рік тому

      True, no matter what plane you're in or how good you are, you will always do better if you avoid the nose of your adversary.

  • @joelbashore5658
    @joelbashore5658 Рік тому +26

    The other pilot wasn't fighting the Tomcat very well. Probably a first tour nugget LTjg 🙂

  • @Dutchcomentatah
    @Dutchcomentatah Рік тому +21

    Can we get a "pilot unknown" series? Where different opponents take you on in their prefered jet, and you have to adapt to their strengths.

  • @danielralston8044
    @danielralston8044 Рік тому +4

    "for the sake of making it a little longer for people who want that"
    *everyone raises hand*

  • @lucasgomez3283
    @lucasgomez3283 Рік тому +54

    With that F-14 pilot you couldve gotten the same 3-0 flying the MiG-21 honestly, the enemy pilot did not fly it right at all

    • @RaderizDorret
      @RaderizDorret Рік тому +8

      MiG-21, hell. The MiG-15 could beat that pilot.

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist Рік тому +4

      bro straight up just reversed right into the nose

    • @jacobblair6181
      @jacobblair6181 Рік тому +3

      thats gotta be the worst tomcat pilot who's been on this channel so far

    • @lucasgomez3283
      @lucasgomez3283 Рік тому

      @@candle_eatist multiple times too

  • @94520shatto
    @94520shatto Рік тому +17

    Does your Tomcat pilot know this is a dogfight, not him being a moving target for you?

  • @reapertalon
    @reapertalon Рік тому +22

    I dunno but I felt this enemies' playstyle with the f14 was just...weird. He didn't capitalize on a lot of the f14s strengths. Thrust-to-weight and the rate fight.

    • @RaderizDorret
      @RaderizDorret Рік тому +4

      Almost looked like he was flying as one would in Ace Combat

    • @reapertalon
      @reapertalon Рік тому +4

      @@RaderizDorret exactly. No real strategy just: "GODDAMNIT HIT IT WITH THE MISSILES WHY WONT THIS THING PSM THATS WHAT V2 IS FOR!!!"

  • @mj533
    @mj533 Рік тому +7

    Excellent defensive flying! You reminded of the old Chuck Yeager quote: “It’s the man, not the machine”

  • @challi70
    @challi70 Рік тому +1

    When Jester takes pilot seat, everything is possible.

  • @Terpenesteve
    @Terpenesteve Рік тому +1

    I'm beyond addicted at these videos now..its been a great few years GS! Always bringing us awesome new fights and flights! Another great one as always!

  • @rifroll1117
    @rifroll1117 Рік тому +5

    F-35 vs MiG-31s at BVR when?😬

  • @KH-wv7po
    @KH-wv7po Рік тому +5

    F-14 pilot just wanted to die...sheesh.

  • @simoneradice3576
    @simoneradice3576 Рік тому +12

    F14A pilot , more training please !!!(🙈)

  • @sabadab0766
    @sabadab0766 Рік тому

    I love how nervous sounding he is at the beginning- keep up the amazing content!!!

  • @jameshisself9324
    @jameshisself9324 Рік тому +1

    Well that was unexpected. Good call for not crediting/blaming the Tomcat driver.

  • @Govenator180
    @Govenator180 Рік тому +1

    Another great video GS! Would love to see if a competent pilot was in the f14. That being said you were fighting an up hill battle with 1 arm behind your back and won so props! That Tomcat pilot must now do the walk of shame.

  • @martinlagrange8821
    @martinlagrange8821 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the awesome video, and the training in terms of making maximum use of the F-1 in A2A. Much obliged !

  • @cambellschunky704
    @cambellschunky704 Рік тому +5

    Love the vids. Been missing your historical videos as well. If you feel like you're going to go on a tear with a new aircraft, a short essay sprinkled with GS spice would be cool.

  • @o5unclebob
    @o5unclebob Рік тому

    It's all up to the man in the box! Nice piloting man!

  • @996driver1
    @996driver1 Рік тому +1

    The better pilot wins. Bravo

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 Рік тому

    2:14 - GS took away all the beeping. HOORAY!! :^D

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Рік тому

    Flaps really helped :) Great work GS

  • @rlsuth
    @rlsuth Рік тому +1

    Way back in 1980, when I was in the SA Air Force, I asked a Mirage pilot what would happen against a Tomcat and he just said he'd lose every time.

  • @flatrh8650
    @flatrh8650 Рік тому +4

    Another great vid showing the advantages of the F1 (more like disadvantages now though)

  • @TheArcticFoxxo
    @TheArcticFoxxo Рік тому

    i absolutely love the AoA indicator directly next to the HUD

  • @Cipher-1-1
    @Cipher-1-1 Рік тому

    Masterful control, as always 🤘

  • @johnhermann7498
    @johnhermann7498 Рік тому +2

    "...It's as simple as that..."
    Especially against someone who didn't learn the first time....Or the second.
    That was a slaughter. LOL

  • @gregkostensky8756
    @gregkostensky8756 Рік тому

    Thank you for getting rid of the beeping now I enjoy watching you fly this

  • @SworBeyE16
    @SworBeyE16 Рік тому

    Awesome content as always

  • @luna-hw9li
    @luna-hw9li Рік тому +4

    that was some serious pilot sh*t... I would have bet on the F14 every time.

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 Рік тому

    "Hit the breaks and he'll fly right by".... Shows why Topgun was necessary - even in a universally superior machine without using it correctly you can still easily be defeated (lots of experience of this in DCS :-)!)

  • @shanepregler9865
    @shanepregler9865 Рік тому +3

    I bet if you guys swapped you would smoke him 3x

  • @kuryakin2483
    @kuryakin2483 Рік тому +1

    I always thought the F1 Mirage just looked super cool. A Jets jet.

  • @aguy556
    @aguy556 Рік тому

    You’re the master - comparing your videos today to 3 years ago, gives me hope that if I continue and read, watch, fly, and learn, I can aspire to your skill level

  • @Destros1
    @Destros1 Рік тому +1

    Just left a comment on another video about you and came to check you out and bam you posted lol

  • @peteabrh-fairest9463
    @peteabrh-fairest9463 Рік тому

    Fantastic job 🍻

  • @Pandalf3500
    @Pandalf3500 Рік тому +4

    We need more cold war era planes in dcs

  • @baraahamoood3372
    @baraahamoood3372 Рік тому

    The first round was epic the way the fight got turned over lol

  • @TrinityAlps83
    @TrinityAlps83 Рік тому +2

    Since I have found your channel, I have been binge watching your videos for the past week. Last night I had a dream I was in an F15 shooting missles then diving. All I heard was over g...over g...over g...

  • @danmedrano3372
    @danmedrano3372 Рік тому

    I love your videos! Love your knowledge and explanations. Keep up the good work. I would like to see your set up (computer and controllers).

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 Рік тому

    Growling really said “hit the breaks on em”

  • @dstavs
    @dstavs Рік тому

    Really enjoying the Mirage F-1. Would love it if they created a module with the modernized Moroccan Mirage F1 MF2000 ASTRAC. Pretty awesome that they’re still flying.

  • @netwrkguy
    @netwrkguy Рік тому

    "I'm gonna hit the brakes and he's gonna fly right by !!"

  • @SolNacht
    @SolNacht Рік тому

    "I'm going to hit the brakes and he'll fly right by"

  • @danielzargarani7601
    @danielzargarani7601 Рік тому +2

    Who was flying that tomcat ? A baboon ! Even jamshid can kill the f1 in the tomcat

  • @m1t2a1
    @m1t2a1 Рік тому +4

    Imagine being in the F-14, locking you up and firing from 70 miles away.

  • @AaaBbb-ff1pn
    @AaaBbb-ff1pn Рік тому

    finally some scissor and 1 circle action... the poor fellow in f14 keep overshooting

  • @vaderlatino9924
    @vaderlatino9924 Рік тому +1

    Dude in the F-14 needs to review BFM and get more experience in the F-14

  • @stevemc6010
    @stevemc6010 Рік тому +2

    Would love to see the Mirage F1 vs AV-8B

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp Рік тому

    It was noticable that the Tomcat pilot was not maneuvering in relation to what you were doing, but blindly going about "his" business expecting that to be enough.
    It wasn't enough.

  • @kertaspaper94
    @kertaspaper94 Рік тому

    I feel like this deserves a rematch

  • @takeoffwithjakesoft
    @takeoffwithjakesoft Рік тому +1

    DISCLAIMER: Results not typical. Your experience my vary.

  • @jonahauciello966
    @jonahauciello966 Рік тому

    your flying is quite impressive lol

  • @marioshadjikyriacou3381
    @marioshadjikyriacou3381 Рік тому

    South Africa's DENEL DYNAMICS, had an upgrade program for their Mirage's, the "super mirage", equipped with a Russian engine variant of the mig29's RD93!
    F1's performance skyrocketed after that, but it stayed just to one and only prototype!

  • @farkinarkin5099
    @farkinarkin5099 Рік тому

    Thought the F1 was going subterranean in that last round. Good kill(s).

  • @pstrzel
    @pstrzel Рік тому

    All the time I'm screaming "Hit the brakes! He'll fly right by you?!" 😁

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 Рік тому +2

    Well we know that there are a bunch of these F1s which received some electronic face-lift and now are flying DACT OPFOR in the TOP GUN these days... there must be a good reason for them to be used up there... just like we saw it here...

  • @MattWaller04
    @MattWaller04 Рік тому +1

    Let’s gooooo!!!!!! Kind of want to see the mirage do well here. We’ll see lol

  • @thomasmadden7580
    @thomasmadden7580 Рік тому

    Really interested in seeing the F117A in action, and making sense of why such a highly touted technology became obsolete after a short service history.

  • @kentyannayon3741
    @kentyannayon3741 Рік тому +3

    My perception is the F1 is a capable dogfighter, it just lacks some of the automation that makes lining up a gun shot easier. Though in a more modern scenario it's not likely to survive past BVR into BFM.

  • @TangoIndiaMike144
    @TangoIndiaMike144 Рік тому

    That evil laugh though.

  • @ricardopena3995
    @ricardopena3995 Рік тому

    F1 vs F5 needs to be the next video!

  • @Gripen90
    @Gripen90 Рік тому

    Now the F1 vs F16 !

  • @seanbrown207
    @seanbrown207 Рік тому

    Only you could figure out how to fight a F-14 with a Mirage. Dunno if the other pilot was doing everything right but kudos to you for figuring out the Mirage.

  • @soapmctavish4422
    @soapmctavish4422 Рік тому

    Don't mess with french jet ... 😎👍

  • @xxZerosumxx
    @xxZerosumxx Рік тому +1

    They other day I picked the F22 and my opponent was GS in a mirage. I forfeited.

  • @CueDriver
    @CueDriver Рік тому

    Was testing a mission I am building. Engaged the F1 with a F16. Amraamed the first one. Merged with second, kept looking around for him. I would look down and kept thinking it was the chute of the other one since it didn't seem to move. Then realized it was the other F1. I was able to drop down and just get behind him and stay there. Then proceeded to make many punctures in his plane.

  • @cbertulfo
    @cbertulfo Рік тому +1

    Now that the F1 is in the roster you should round up the A4, F5, & the L39 and do like a "Draken"/private military contractor strike on a fictitious satellite state. Let's go!

  • @devanhusmann9297
    @devanhusmann9297 Рік тому

    That plane just seems to like to stand in one spot and just stay there….. ya the nose may not come up right away like you said but it seems that planes strength lays with the capabilities to bait people.

  • @KirkDammett
    @KirkDammett Рік тому

    "It's the pilot, not the machine." ;)
    Request 8 of 13: GS in the F/A-18C vs a buddy in the Mustang or Spitfire!

  • @Kingonads
    @Kingonads Рік тому

    The F1 is surprisingly nimble for not being a delta wing. I look forward to the F1CM.

  • @icaleinns6233
    @icaleinns6233 Рік тому

    "I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by" "You're gonna do WHAT?!?!?!?!?"

  • @robsonfujii461
    @robsonfujii461 Рік тому +1

    Vs Viggen next time. Missing the Sven guy.

  • @gigabraingalaxy7322
    @gigabraingalaxy7322 Рік тому +1

    We need more f14 content

  • @johnandrewmunroe
    @johnandrewmunroe 2 місяці тому

    Soon you'll have to change your callsign to The Surgeon. Bogeyetctomy complete!

  • @JessidGallardo
    @JessidGallardo Рік тому +12

    You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting.
    Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements.

  • @shannonspear8751
    @shannonspear8751 Рік тому

    Play to your strengths over confidence is a weakness

  • @realitysux_0128
    @realitysux_0128 Рік тому +1

    Growling Sidewinder V Actual Iranian pilot. Times are tough in Iran

  • @whalehands4779
    @whalehands4779 Рік тому

    You just straight up outflew him

  • @Veni_Vidi_Vortice
    @Veni_Vidi_Vortice Рік тому

    Target fixation will be your nemesis. Extension is your best friend.

  • @edwardfeast1697
    @edwardfeast1697 Рік тому

    I'm liking a lot of these comparison's, I was wondering what might happen if you put a Tornado F3 vs an F14? I know they're very different aircraft, but I'd be curious to see how they compare?

  • @T25de
    @T25de Рік тому

    Amazing

  • @paulbrooks4395
    @paulbrooks4395 Рік тому +1

    All fights are against pilots and not planes. Anyone in any aircraft can make mistakes or fly poorly. Being better is what wins.

  • @ohalrighthen4301
    @ohalrighthen4301 Рік тому

    Would like to see a F1 vs Viggen video for an even contest.

  • @EasyFromFinland
    @EasyFromFinland Рік тому +1

    Can we get F1 vs A10 Warthog? That would certainly be interesting

  • @milsworld3129
    @milsworld3129 Рік тому

    It's not the plane. It's the pilot. =)

  • @HEATER_
    @HEATER_ Рік тому

    Lead that Aim-9 a little more next time.
    -The Monday Morning Quarterback

  • @lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613

    Lololol. "Oh yeah. Come on. Oh yeah. OOOOH!"