That's the way I look at it. I would like to keep mine forever and give to my kids. 👍 any mechanic can throw parts at a car and get power gains. A good mechanic can keep the old evo 8s and 9s running forever.
Ya finally got my short route charge pipes and Evo 9 turbo 1000cc cams injectors I go in to get tuned ...turns out with 150k on the clock it's top end time! I'm losing compression thru the valves! Ugh sad day oh well a fresh head will make the car even better!
@Benjamin Casto Mods certainly make a difference when it comes to Horsepower. Most OEM parts are quality stuff, agreed. However the evo world has a decent amount of good aftermarket parts available. If you had $600 to spend, would you buy new OEM camshafts or aftermarket GSC/Kelford/HKS camshafts?
@Benjamin Casto Most all cars are a poor investment. If you purely want to make money (aka investment) i'd look elsewhere. Buy an evo to enjoy it. And who said anything about a Crank? i think you missed the point of my camshaft question.
Great break down Paul! My son took my original 2003 evo as his first car. And we have had a great time building up his Evo. We have spent 4k on mods. Boost controller, intake, full buschur 3 inch exhaust, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump and a tune, oh and two clutches lol, stay away from clutchmasters. But the smiles per gallon have been worth every penny! Thanks for sharing your journey with all of us! Have a great day!
I have a very similarly built evo 9, same gsc s1 cams and all, same blusher exhaust. One slight difference is that I upgraded my evo 9 turbo to an FP hta 71, which is just a slight upgrade over the stock unit but actually spools a bit earlier and still gives a power increase throughout the rest of the rev range. Excellent video
This is the biggest advantage of the evo over the STI. You can have speed and reliability for a much cheaper cost. In an STI this would cost you double or triple the amount.
@@scottbeaulieu13 With the extra $2500 left over, you can easily take this 400whp to 550whp, and the car is setup to handle it (ie transmission and clutch are already upgraded).
Gears and Gasoline also did a price breakdown on the k-swap that I also found interesting. I really think these price breakdowns can be important to car culture as a whole and hope to see more from various people.
You can but you never do. You always end up fixing other peoples previous mistakes or upgrading this because you're already doing this. Fmic, injectors, fuel pump a e85 remap and you could probably be at 400awhp with high enough boost if you're on a evo 9 instead of an 8.
Hard to compare as I bought my IX new in 2006. I only had to add a pre-cat-less downpipe, Walbro pump, Ecutek tuning, and a Supersprint exhaust (as that is EU approved - not the best option but I didn't want the hassle of changing it every time the car has to be inspected). I wanted driveability more than raw power, and also wanted reliability. Total costs (did not install them myself) was $2,200. Makes 280 BHP ATW and 496 Nm with the main cat in place, which is safe for the 6-speed gearbox. 14 years later it still goes extremely well, and can be made back to stock in about 2 hours. I did have it repainted as the red started to fade after 13 years, got heavily into detailing, so now it looks brand new again. Overall the cheapest car I ever bought/drove. Only done 39K miles with it, so the resale value is quite astonishing. But... why sell it, right? Anyway, you did a great job, and while it did cost money, you did end up with a perfect car.
Nice, my own estimate came out to $4,407 just on fuel support, fp green kit, new cams/springs and rebuilt head. Luckily the previous owner already installed the shiny parts like bov, intercooler, exhaust.
I've watched your channel since I bought my evo viii 4 years ago, I love your videos! yesturday my clutch started acting up I'm thinking the tob might have popped off halfway? the clutch still works but the pedal engages at the floor. I'll post a video if you can take a look? thanks for sharing your knowledge you've helped me save a lot of money so far!
Evo is car that you don't want to keep it stock, you upgrade it to 400 hp with stock turbo, and after a while you want to build the engine with bigger turbo, then you'll see yourself spending more than 50.000 $ on parts and own a 700-800 hp evo. I want to say that is so addictive and tunable car and makes you to spend so much money. Sometimes I wonder with some evo oweners that can keep their full stock.
400HP is a good mark. Kind of where I'm trying to go. Just bought my first evo 8. So this video is super useful. Thanks. You willing to sell any of your spare parts?
Look at that, still a third of the price to get a Subaru to that power level and the Evo is still a million times more reliable. 4G63 can not be stopped!
@@Jamxknife That's weird mine all I have to do is change the oil? Had my evo9 car over 500hp for like 6 years now 135miles. I could take that car coast to coast with no problems. If urs is unreliable its because of who worked on it/maintained it, not the car.
I think I could do that with my automobile. I have a JDM1994 MR2 GT-S with a 3rd gen 3sgte. I personally want an a2w intercooler setup. A turbo upgrade, either a billet wheel upgrade or kit. Probably would need a new clutch, I don't mind adding a aluminum fly while I'm down there. Plugin 800cc sards, of course I could do an upgraded rail and maybe squeeze a bit more out or do an e85 setup. Stock internals I start to.lose confidence 450whp+. Headlift might be a factor if Im shooting for numbers that high, so might need L19 headstuds. Link ecu. I got my exhaust used for $460, new it would be a $1000 exhaust, titanium 3" single exit. The dpipe for an oem.bolt pattern turbo was $250. It depends on some of this. But around $5xxx and you can have a 100% whp increase in the mr2. If cost is a factor, some of this you reduce costs on but they're not as nice, like an a2w setup vs ebay smic, or insisting on an e85 tune.
@BLUE JDM MR2 You just have less drive train power loss as you do not have 2 differentials and a transfer box sapping power and torque which makes it easier for you to make power.
@@davidgriggs3967 im gonna flatly admit, 4g63, is probably a bit better at hp making. Cr/same turbo/timing same, per lb of boost the 4g63 will make more power (better head design on 4g63), and its oem bottom end is probably a bit stronger, Id probably have more faith 500+ whp oem than the 3sgte, record was 474whp oem bottom end and last I heard its limitation was oem head studs. I dont think a 4g63 fan would find a 3sgte a total let down, imo theyre rather comparable.
@@BlueJDMMR2 Yeah the 6 bolt 4g63t head stud's are limited to about 15 to 17 psi but the cranks are good to 800bhp rod's and pistons to 450bhp. I was shock how badly designed the head flow is on SR20''s , robbed of about 30 to 40 hp compared to 4g63t at the same boost levels and equivalent size turbo's.
At that point You could have done a turbo upgrade larger than the EVO9 for just a few hundred bucks more at this point it’s not a big deal That’s what I would have done and you would have been well over and at 450whp Which makes 6k or so reasonable
Awesome video! Boosted films keeping it real as always. You saved me so much time and money when my transmission had to be dropped. Keep up the videos! I bought my evo for $22k, 60k miles and bone stock! Well it had an exhaust and wheels. I'm going to keep my evo as stock as possible. With maybe a 350 hp build. 👍
Unless it’s an evo 8/9 SE or RS don’t bother. No one really cares in the gsr is modified. Actually the GSR actually gains value if it’s modified. The MR is a gray area
Great video. Also, I would like to add that labor for all those parts you listed will rack up the bill to almost $10,000. A clutch job alone is around $1,200-$1800. Since you are adding all those goodies, motor mounts would be essential for that build preferably torque solutions.
@@ace-qi9pj A nice ACT clutch + pro lite fly wheel, ARP flywheel bolts. OEM clutch fork, OEM seals and bushings will cost over $1100.00 in parts. Labor is not cheap, if you have an old or rusted evo (Midwestern Evo) you are looking at 3-5 hours of labor. Look up the costs at boostinperformance if you don't believe me.
4th gear can be a weak link if you road course race your evo. The straight cut 4th is stronger than oem helical gears. more info here: ua-cam.com/video/Xfg3sANQVBE/v-deo.html
Eu creio que sabe o significado do escapamento em forma de gota porque fez isso ?/ I believe you know the meaning of the droplet exhaust because you did it ?
I wish in 2014 philly roads where not atrocious and destroyed my rims and suspension plus I needed 4 new tires should of kept my 03 evo it was black like that but I had black rims too nice car I have
Matt Di Rienzo kelford 272/272s, gsc beehive springs, a borg s257sxe, basic fuel system, exedy twin disk, full bolt ons. It never broke the car was at that power for 7 years. The clutch blew out the bottom of the bell housing from racing and I decided to build the motor
Calay Flippo evo 9 and 10 BOV’s are better than the oem 8 bov. Choosing between 9 or 10 only depends on where you want the vacuum hose connection positioned.
Nice one Paul! Yeah I definitely agree with you that it doesn’t add value, but most of us have intentions of keeping these cars forever.
That's the way I look at it. I would like to keep mine forever and give to my kids. 👍 any mechanic can throw parts at a car and get power gains. A good mechanic can keep the old evo 8s and 9s running forever.
Ya finally got my short route charge pipes and Evo 9 turbo 1000cc cams injectors I go in to get tuned ...turns out with 150k on the clock it's top end time! I'm losing compression thru the valves! Ugh sad day oh well a fresh head will make the car even better!
@Benjamin Casto Mods certainly make a difference when it comes to Horsepower. Most OEM parts are quality stuff, agreed. However the evo world has a decent amount of good aftermarket parts available. If you had $600 to spend, would you buy new OEM camshafts or aftermarket GSC/Kelford/HKS camshafts?
@Benjamin Casto Most all cars are a poor investment. If you purely want to make money (aka investment) i'd look elsewhere. Buy an evo to enjoy it. And who said anything about a Crank? i think you missed the point of my camshaft question.
@Benjamin Casto How many cars do you own?
Great break down Paul!
My son took my original 2003 evo as his first car. And we have had a great time building up his Evo. We have spent 4k on mods. Boost controller, intake, full buschur 3 inch exhaust, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump and a tune, oh and two clutches lol, stay away from clutchmasters. But the smiles per gallon have been worth every penny! Thanks for sharing your journey with all of us! Have a great day!
E Doza heck of a first car, lucky kid!
Better keep that thing forever
That external wastegate pipe looks awesome. Nice touch bro.
I have a very similarly built evo 9, same gsc s1 cams and all, same blusher exhaust. One slight difference is that I upgraded my evo 9 turbo to an FP hta 71, which is just a slight upgrade over the stock unit but actually spools a bit earlier and still gives a power increase throughout the rest of the rev range.
Excellent video
How much hp?
@@GR33NPooP 380 on 21psi on pump fuel. The next step is an E85 tune on 30 psi.
This is the biggest advantage of the evo over the STI. You can have speed and reliability for a much cheaper cost. In an STI this would cost you double or triple the amount.
For 8500 I have a 560awhp ej25 fp green setup On e85.... I’ll take the Subaru setup for 8500 over a 400whp evo 🤷♂️
@@scottbeaulieu13 With the extra $2500 left over, you can easily take this 400whp to 550whp, and the car is setup to handle it (ie transmission and clutch are already upgraded).
Gears and Gasoline also did a price breakdown on the k-swap that I also found interesting. I really think these price breakdowns can be important to car culture as a whole and hope to see more from various people.
We’ll come to Australia I got told 20 to 30 thousand to build my evo x it was more then double that
Awesome information. I'm a numbers guy, so this stuff is always fun to analyze.
5k to make 400whp. Alot cheaper and easier to make 400 on this platform.
Oh yeah you can Make 400 on stock cams couple bolt one and a 9 turbo and a single disk clutch lol
You can but you never do. You always end up fixing other peoples previous mistakes or upgrading this because you're already doing this. Fmic, injectors, fuel pump a e85 remap and you could probably be at 400awhp with high enough boost if you're on a evo 9 instead of an 8.
Evo9 is quite a bit less. I spent less than 3g and I bought good parts as well made 413whp.
ace 996 build list?
@@ace-qi9pj What mods did u do for 3g's?
Hard to compare as I bought my IX new in 2006. I only had to add a pre-cat-less downpipe, Walbro pump, Ecutek tuning, and a Supersprint exhaust (as that is EU approved - not the best option but I didn't want the hassle of changing it every time the car has to be inspected). I wanted driveability more than raw power, and also wanted reliability. Total costs (did not install them myself) was $2,200. Makes 280 BHP ATW and 496 Nm with the main cat in place, which is safe for the 6-speed gearbox. 14 years later it still goes extremely well, and can be made back to stock in about 2 hours. I did have it repainted as the red started to fade after 13 years, got heavily into detailing, so now it looks brand new again. Overall the cheapest car I ever bought/drove. Only done 39K miles with it, so the resale value is quite astonishing. But... why sell it, right? Anyway, you did a great job, and while it did cost money, you did end up with a perfect car.
So you're saying that you have an Evo IX w/ 40k Original miles... That you bought new in 2006?
Respect! Buying an evo 9 new and keeping it so long. ❤️
@@Thr33.Sid3z Yup.
Smart move! Bought my IX new in October of 2005. Sitting at just under 48,000 miles. I'll die before I part with it!
Cool rundown Paul. Always scary adding up your totals. Mine was eye opening 😱
If you like your car, don't do it 😁
Nice, my own estimate came out to $4,407 just on fuel support, fp green kit, new cams/springs and rebuilt head. Luckily the previous owner already installed the shiny parts like bov, intercooler, exhaust.
Nice! probably pushing a few more HP than me then. Running E-85?
@@BoostedFilms 453 wheel on pump but low torque at 350 stock bottom
Ive been watching videos of cars by far you are the who was able to explain the prices and buold. Very nice. I just liked and Sub. Keep it up.
ahhh the golden rule..
Fast, Reliable ,Cheap.
. You can only have two
Haha so true
It’s safe to say anything 400-600hp range is def going to run 10k$ + to really get some reliability and gapping fun on some v8’s
You spent less than I did to get to 400. Reliability and quality man. Hell my ets fmic was something like $800 alone which is stupid.
Build the car you want, all that matters :)
I've watched your channel since I bought my evo viii 4 years ago, I love your videos! yesturday my clutch started acting up I'm thinking the tob might have popped off halfway? the clutch still works but the pedal engages at the floor. I'll post a video if you can take a look? thanks for sharing your knowledge you've helped me save a lot of money so far!
Sorry to hear. I'd pull the little plug on the bottom of trans and take a look to see if the TOB looks right.
Love the videos man keep it coming. I sold my evo awhile back but still miss it
Buy a new evo ;)
@@BoostedFilms i wish i cant find a decent one
Evo is car that you don't want to keep it stock, you upgrade it to 400 hp with stock turbo, and after a while you want to build the engine with bigger turbo, then you'll see yourself spending more than 50.000 $ on parts and own a 700-800 hp evo. I want to say that is so addictive and tunable car and makes you to spend so much money. Sometimes I wonder with some evo oweners that can keep their full stock.
400HP is a good mark. Kind of where I'm trying to go. Just bought my first evo 8. So this video is super useful. Thanks. You willing to sell any of your spare parts?
You will also need a tune after installing these parts. Which would be about 450.00
A dyno tune is just shy of $1000 usually around the $700-800 mark
450 to 500 for me here in Cali. And thats for dual map.
Thats not bad I just start saving up to buy a evo 8
Forgot to include specialty tools cost if any were used, also a link to the mentioned video would be handy to add too :) great video!
You dont need the intercooler and pipes they are good for more than 400
Look at that, still a third of the price to get a Subaru to that power level and the Evo is still a million times more reliable. 4G63 can not be stopped!
RichRusso4218 dont say that in public.... u will have vapes casted by subi owners and most likely be killed lol
They stopped making the motor and the car. So they did stop. Miss the evo thoz
The motor is reliable but that where it stops. If you’ve ever owned an evo you know there’s always something new wrong every few days.
@@Jamxknife That's weird mine all I have to do is change the oil? Had my evo9 car over 500hp for like 6 years now 135miles. I could take that car coast to coast with no problems. If urs is unreliable its because of who worked on it/maintained it, not the car.
Sweet video ....thanks for sharing 🤙🏻
These cars aren’t as easy and cheap to mod. Im trying to go for 450-500 on pump gas. I’m adding up quick. Like you said plus maintenance.
Whats a better platform?
Is this a good idea?
Bolt on turbo kit
Injector upgrade
Fuel pump upgrade
Maybe ecu
I think I could do that with my automobile.
I have a JDM1994 MR2 GT-S with a 3rd gen 3sgte.
I personally want an a2w intercooler setup. A turbo upgrade, either a billet wheel upgrade or kit. Probably would need a new clutch, I don't mind adding a aluminum fly while I'm down there. Plugin 800cc sards, of course I could do an upgraded rail and maybe squeeze a bit more out or do an e85 setup. Stock internals I start to.lose confidence 450whp+. Headlift might be a factor if Im shooting for numbers that high, so might need L19 headstuds. Link ecu.
I got my exhaust used for $460, new it would be a $1000 exhaust, titanium 3" single exit. The dpipe for an oem.bolt pattern turbo was $250. It depends on some of this. But around $5xxx and you can have a 100% whp increase in the mr2.
If cost is a factor, some of this you reduce costs on but they're not as nice, like an a2w setup vs ebay smic, or insisting on an e85 tune.
@BLUE JDM MR2
You just have less drive train power loss as you do not have 2 differentials and a transfer box sapping power and torque which makes it easier for you to make power.
@@davidgriggs3967 im gonna flatly admit, 4g63, is probably a bit better at hp making. Cr/same turbo/timing same, per lb of boost the 4g63 will make more power (better head design on 4g63), and its oem bottom end is probably a bit stronger, Id probably have more faith 500+ whp oem than the 3sgte, record was 474whp oem bottom end and last I heard its limitation was oem head studs.
I dont think a 4g63 fan would find a 3sgte a total let down, imo theyre rather comparable.
@@BlueJDMMR2 Yeah the 6 bolt 4g63t head stud's are limited to about 15 to 17 psi but the cranks are good to 800bhp rod's and pistons to 450bhp.
I was shock how badly designed the head flow is on SR20''s , robbed of about 30 to 40 hp compared to 4g63t at the same boost levels and equivalent size turbo's.
At that point
You could have done a turbo upgrade larger than the EVO9 for just a few hundred bucks more at this point it’s not a big deal
That’s what I would have done and you would have been well over and at 450whp
Which makes 6k or so reasonable
Thanks Paul
Bc its a good car that's y i coast so much but its worth it at the end
Awesome video! Boosted films keeping it real as always. You saved me so much time and money when my transmission had to be dropped. Keep up the videos! I bought my evo for $22k, 60k miles and bone stock! Well it had an exhaust and wheels. I'm going to keep my evo as stock as possible. With maybe a 350 hp build. 👍
Glad to help!
Unless it’s an evo 8/9 SE or RS don’t bother. No one really cares in the gsr is modified. Actually the GSR actually gains value if it’s modified. The MR is a gray area
Here's the real cheapest way to 400whp
1300cc fuel injector
Fuel pump
Clutch
Boost controller
Downpipe
Stock ecu tune on e85
Wisconsin represent!
Great video.
Also, I would like to add that labor for all those parts you listed will rack up the bill to almost $10,000. A clutch job alone is around $1,200-$1800.
Since you are adding all those goodies, motor mounts would be essential for that build preferably torque solutions.
Lol don’t buy an evo if your not gonna work on it it’s so easy to do anything on it trans comes out in an hour or so
Lance Verhoek With that logic, don’t buy a car at all.
1800 for a clutch seriously? A nice act clutch cost maybe 700 So u would pay 1100 for 2.5 hours of labor ?
@@ace-qi9pj A nice ACT clutch + pro lite fly wheel, ARP flywheel bolts. OEM clutch fork, OEM seals and bushings will cost over $1100.00 in parts. Labor is not cheap, if you have an old or rusted evo (Midwestern Evo) you are looking at 3-5 hours of labor. Look up the costs at boostinperformance if you don't believe me.
What's the purpose of the straight cut 4th gear?
my buddy could use one of the set of headlights you have
Hey bro can you explain why 4th gear you made it straight cut gear? That’s how they come from factory?
4th gear can be a weak link if you road course race your evo. The straight cut 4th is stronger than oem helical gears. more info here: ua-cam.com/video/Xfg3sANQVBE/v-deo.html
4th gear is 1to1 ratio so with that much power mushing on 4 on the track can put too much power down blowing the trans.
Hello brother I like the modification and am wondering if u can sell it or you guide me through on how to modify
Eu creio que sabe o significado do escapamento em forma de gota porque fez isso ?/
I believe you know the meaning of the droplet exhaust because you did it ?
Gran trabajo!!!👏👏👏👏
my budget is about 7000 plus i have parts that im not including, so i should be safe right?
I actually have that same intercooler, yours was the first time I've seen another lol how much was that paint job? I need one
THR Evo8 nice. I helped with a bit of the body work and got a pretty good deal. Was under 3k.
I’ll do you car for 2k bro
I wish in 2014 philly roads where not atrocious and destroyed my rims and suspension plus I needed 4 new tires should of kept my 03 evo it was black like that but I had black rims too nice car I have
Love the lots of spare parts lol
You can literally do it with less on a evo platform. For 5k I was in the 500+awhp range.
How much do you think it would have being with labor ?
I make 370hp stock just bolts on boost controller
Cool
Is there anything you’d recommend to cover the hood dump when it’s raining?
I have a soup can that is squeezed down a bit. Its always in my evo but i rarely use it since it's parked in the garage typically.
Is that a good thing?
I would also like to know lol
What kind of mods can I use to up my horse power to 400 in my 2008 evolution lancer MR? and how much will it cost in total ?
List your current mods bro
I spent 8k to make 550whp, and 45k to make 900whp.
Lance Edwards - honestly, why?
Manny Pacquiao Because I like to gap motherfuckers
@@Jamxknife You sir, you are my new totem animal.
What mods did you do to make 550whp? How did it last on stock motor?
Matt Di Rienzo kelford 272/272s, gsc beehive springs, a borg s257sxe, basic fuel system, exedy twin disk, full bolt ons. It never broke the car was at that power for 7 years. The clutch blew out the bottom of the bell housing from racing and I decided to build the motor
Do you run flex fuel setup with that Innovate E85 gauge?
I am running E-85. However the gauge is not wired to ECU for tuning purposes. Its just so i know what percentage e85 i have.
5k is cheap in my opinion. To turbo my BRZ properly is well over $10k. Just for bolt on parts on this evo is cheap IMO
That's still 25% of the cost to do the same for a Subaru STi.
Where do you buy an evo 9 turbo? I cant find any locally.
Your just better off with a FP turbo….It’s really not much more when your adding up all of this
Got any usdm spare lights?
All that for a car that will break your heart by breaking at some point too.
Can i make 400hp under 5 k or 6k
You can make 400whp with just fuel pump injectors and e85 on a stock turbo and stock ecu
Costs*
lol you can get 350 without any mods and just a tune. dynoflash proved this 14 years ago
I'm curious, why a evo x blow off valve?
Calay Flippo evo 9 and 10 BOV’s are better than the oem 8 bov. Choosing between 9 or 10 only depends on where you want the vacuum hose connection positioned.
@@BoostedFilms oh I see. Thanx. I have an evo 9 and heard they were really well built, so I was wondering why the 10...
@@calayflippo4715 Anything is better than the plastic OEM evo 8 BOV :) ua-cam.com/video/4Rps9xrDOr4/v-deo.html
True that, lol...
What does the front lsd do?
Provide more grip and better handling.
Boosted Films doesn’t the x bring that
Itachlazcano21 what’s x?
Boosted Films does the evo x have that
My turbo cost5,800$ Australian dollars
The most expensive way to make 400whp in an Evo 8 lol
Wow I bet you spent less than 23k in total 😉
Yea, my total is like 15K. So, would you rather have this evo and 8K in your pocket or a K-swapped Civic? :)
I mean, it took me $15,000 to make 700whp so...
That’s more like it for an evo lol
Im sorry what 15k???? How
@@Matt-lf1ik built motor, supporting mods, tuning etc etc
@@heavilysalted_msg3264 Thats alot cheaper than builds I found online and on the forums.
Probably for the same reason you use it in the snow. Because it’s a rust bucket
Hope you enjoy whatever car you own bud. Start posting up some videos.
Boosted Films an evo, which is why I know yours won’t have faired well in that weather lol. Built to be abused so kudos regardless
@@MJNGaming If you actually care, Its a Texas car that i took out for a snow photo shoot. Snow doesn't cause rust, salt does.
your parts are cheap sure but my stupid ass would have to pay someone to install all the stuff which is probally 80-$100 an hour
Your build cost that to make 400
Idk why it cost you so much it’s definitely cheaper than that just for “400”
Nice video, had you think to do COP ignition? Many positive feedback after cheap mode
EDDY PRIME thanks! From my understanding a COP setup would not benefit me much at my horsepower levels.
@@BoostedFilms Feedback say that even idle is much smoother, and so many benefits even for stock motor. Want to try DIY, started parts collecting