Sandhurst Women: Leading the Fight is an authentic look at life at RMA Sandhurst for female officer cadets and we do not condone discriminatory comments on our platform.
I enjoyed this series and hope to hear about how these OCs get on in their army careers. Great photography, cracking drone shot of cadets going up the steps at the end. Bravo.
A 40kg mid thigh pull, seriously? What’s even the point? That’s laughably easy. A rack pull is one of the most favoured ego lifts in the gym because you can do so much weight on it.
2km in 11:30 is not fast. The standards were relaxed not too long ago from 2.4km in 10:30 😅. The difference in this is night and day. Years back, at some units, if you came in over 10 mins even though it was a pass you'd be considered slow and unfit.
2.4km in 10:30 is trained soldier, not recruits, this is a core assessment that they all have to pass irrespective of gender. Trust me, to get OUT of Sandhurst they need to be better than the standard BFT/PFT/PFA score It was the same in my day when I did basic training, and that was the 80's when we did it in boots and denims, its not easier now, its just different, so comparing like so is like ....night and day
@@wilksta156 I went through apprentice college 1997, the bft was 2.4 km - male recruits had 10.30, women 12.30; basic selection added a minute on, but that's now the described timeline for week 11
For everyone talking about running times, remember this is Junior term, and the Officer Cadets have only been in 12 weeks of so when they do this. There will be other tests as they go through the year long course. Also the point we make in the film is that the OCdt who's worried about being slow runs it in 9:29 so way ahead of that outer limit.
I understand the problems women were experiencing prior to this but it feels like they’ve gone from one spotlight to another, surely just integrating them like they do their private soldiers who’re women would’ve gone better
Toxic masculinity exists (not to be confused with masculinity, which is acceptable), as is clearly obvious by the awful misogyny on display on any BFBS clip featuring women.
@@Orbital_Inclination- it's hard to believe you're so unaware of the irony in feeling empowered enough to declare masculinity is 'acceptable'. Your lack of understand reality is palpable.
Having experience with single gender units (male in my case, but I heard similar stories from women) I can attest to how much less toxic behavior there is in mixed gender units.
Yo General Public. With the leveling of rights should come the leveling of responsibilities. We are not all the "same" but We are all equal. Every job cannot and should not be done by everyone, skills and strengths follow the individual. jimmy
Facts don't support the premise of this series. The athletic record books clearly show men are stronger and fitter than woman. (USA Track and Field.) In order to commission 30% women into the officer corps standards have been lowered. Some, erroneously say, brought up to date. Instead of strong males being commissioned; the standard allows weaker males to pass out. For example. The sinking of the Atlantic Conveyor in 1982 was a major set back for the British forces on the Falkland Isles. However, we were able to prevail because the forces adapted and carried very heavy packs, in adverse conditions, over a very long distance. I cannot imagine this lot doing the same.
The soldiers in the Falklands were mostly Royal Marines and Paratroopers if I'm not mistaken? meaning they are a league above the very best candidates in this course.
Sandhurst operates on the principle that every officer is a soldier first, hence the emphasis on Infantry skills, however most graduates will end up serving in other corps where physical fitness isn't the main priority. Signals, Air Corps, REME, Adjutant Corps (MPs, Legal etc.), Int Corps, RLC, RAMC etc.
@@jakealcock5905These are officer candidates for the British Army, so the comparison doesn't make sense, as most of these women will have support roles and be responsible for providing medical care, intelligence, mechanical, communications and air support for soldiers in combat.
RMAS are not commissioning 30% women. There has been no adjustment to the number or percentage of women attending Sandhurst. They are just putting the women who do pass the entry test into platoons in larger groups eg where there are 6 platoons in an intake instead of allocating them equally at around 10% they put more women in 3 platoons at about 30% leaving 3 all male platoons. Entry standards and assessment standards throughout the course are unaffected. I hope that gives you a more accurate picture of the training we cover in these films.
Aaahhh!...... Barossa Common - who can forget the cold wet nights huddled at the bottom of a sandy/stony trench (which took hours to dig!), nervously awaiting the 'enemy' attacks which denied you any form of sleep. In addition to the 'enemy' causing you grief, the constant silent patrolling of the Directing Staff (DS) around the trenches - eager to catch weary Cadets 'gonking on stag' (falling asleep whilst on sentry duty), helped add to the misery. But we loved it really, and when Endex was called, the prospect of a hot shower and dry clothes helped to restore morale.
@@lachlanchester8142 miss information...how many exactly is lots ? 1.We talking all arms commando course ? 2.We talking 32 weeks at ctcrm recruitment training. The answer to number 2 is non.......so don't say lots The answer to number 1 is 4-6 from the information available and that's a generous estimate. So from the literally thousands that try over a year and a half we have non as royal marines and a very very very small% for thr AACC. So it's not lots
@@s.wvazim6517 okay, it’s not lots, but my point was more that this guy is insinuating they can’t when they clearly can, and that it’s not down to gender since plenty of men try and don’t succeed
Be wary of those hard bitten instructors ladies. Look to the Internet if you doubt what I mean. 19 relationships with instructors in a single cohort as recently as 2019? In the private sector that would be career-ending and put a training center in special measures... it's management too
Well it was pretty disappointing to hear that this “trial” of having platoons be made up of 30% women was actually only in FIVE platoons!!!! It sounds to me like it was SET UP to fail!! And this little docu-vignette series is REALLY meant to slap a band-aid on the SERIOUS problems within this school and the military as a whole and called it “mission accomplished”!!! It only serves to reinforce the fact that the serious problems and injustices women face are the least cared about, least prioritized issues and come last in the public consciousness!!! It won’t produce a misleading sense to the soldiers at this school, or the military at large, if you actually MAKE it your GOAL to have at least 30 to 40% of your military comprise of women at ALL LEVELS!!! It shouldn’t just be a goal at sandhurst!!!
For the record, the RAF had integrated Officer Training for decades before the 80s and sections and flights were fully integrated (accommodated and trained the whole "ish) and all Cadets male and female passed out together. 89 Course IOT December 1985
Well, they are doing it in Ukraine and Russian women during WW2 fought with the men. Some of the Russian women were talented snipers and put the fear of God in the Germans. Also, Kurdish women fought hard against ISIS in Iraq, so I don't think your argument holds much water.
@@keithlillis7962 Hi, thank you for your response. How about women in the IDF & not forgetting those women in the north vietnamese army, the list goes on. Yes women made better snipers than their male counterparts in ww2 russian army all correct !the ukrainian army also have disabled people in their ranks. I dont recall any recorded incidents of how females have fared against any bayonet or hand to hand fighting against an enemy. Unfortunately society has been passified into not speaking the truth for fear of ridicule, women are a vital attribute to any army but fighting in a infantry is a step to far. The usmc have done many trials so has the british army & the IDF to determine if women could be integrated into the infantry, unfortunately the women ( who were already fully trained ) failed to keep up with the men couldnt carry the weight on long distance marches & didnt posses the level of agressiveness neaded. In short they presented a liability to other members of their unit. Of course this will never be accepted, the debate goes on.
Square bashing. Another pointless and expensive part of army training. Serves no practical purpose whatsoever. And please no lies about it installing discipline.
I think it's still common because of tradition and culture more than practical reasons, but drill does offer one way to teach teamwork, coordination, obedience and self-discipline (via care for your kit). Drill instructors are usually set in their ways, so the attitude is "why change it, if it works" ?" Having said that, the more professional units place less emphasis on shiny shoes and sharp turns.
GonzoTehGreat It is an expensive and fairly pointless activity which the taxpayer has to fund to indulge top brass. It is still a case of lions led by public school donkeys
And the worst part is, people would die to protect ignorant people like you. Can you at least volunteer to serve yourself, so that at least one casualty won't be a loss to society?
Given the awful sexual assault and harassment rates in the armed forces inflicted overwhelmingly by men on women, she's not wrong for wanting some extra female company.
Sandhurst Women: Leading the Fight is an authentic look at life at RMA Sandhurst for female officer cadets and we do not condone discriminatory comments on our platform.
The bit about the Queen was great. A stark reminder of how amazing our Queen was!
Nice little series. Good luck to all those in the filming in their careers. I hope they are long and fulfilling!
2km in 11 min 30? That's 13 min 48 for the old bft run, which females had 12 min 30 to do, males had 10 min 30 in 90s
I enjoyed this series and hope to hear about how these OCs get on in their army careers. Great photography, cracking drone shot of cadets going up the steps at the end. Bravo.
Will this series continue to cover the intermediate term?
Those were a bunch of really switched on young women. Cadet Amy McCollough really stood out. Well done!
A 40kg mid thigh pull, seriously? What’s even the point? That’s laughably easy. A rack pull is one of the most favoured ego lifts in the gym because you can do so much weight on it.
Someone needs to look at the playlist .... 1, 2, 4, 3 is not the sequence I would normally expect.
I can’t get used to the cadets not having plummy accents.Times have changed since the 1970/80s!!
2km in 11:30 is not fast. The standards were relaxed not too long ago from 2.4km in 10:30 😅. The difference in this is night and day.
Years back, at some units, if you came in over 10 mins even though it was a pass you'd be considered slow and unfit.
2.4km in 10:30 is trained soldier, not recruits, this is a core assessment that they all have to pass irrespective of gender. Trust me, to get OUT of Sandhurst they need to be better than the standard BFT/PFT/PFA score
It was the same in my day when I did basic training, and that was the 80's when we did it in boots and denims, its not easier now, its just different, so comparing like so is like ....night and day
2km in 11:15 is mainstream. Trainees get an extra 15 secs. The mainstream standards have been severely eroded too.@@wilksta156
@@wilksta156 I went through apprentice college 1997, the bft was 2.4 km - male recruits had 10.30, women 12.30; basic selection added a minute on, but that's now the described timeline for week 11
Running for 2km at 5.45/km pace is an absolute joke. I’m no athlete, but I do my local Parkrun (5k) in 21 minutes.
For everyone talking about running times, remember this is Junior term, and the Officer Cadets have only been in 12 weeks of so when they do this. There will be other tests as they go through the year long course. Also the point we make in the film is that the OCdt who's worried about being slow runs it in 9:29 so way ahead of that outer limit.
Well done ladies! 👏👏👏
So proud of our military.
I understand the problems women were experiencing prior to this but it feels like they’ve gone from one spotlight to another, surely just integrating them like they do their private soldiers who’re women would’ve gone better
Exactly that. This isn't about equality, it's about getting attention for doing things that men and women have done for years.
Did that bloke REALLY mention ‘masculine toxicity’? 🤦♂️
Toxic masculinity exists (not to be confused with masculinity, which is acceptable), as is clearly obvious by the awful misogyny on display on any BFBS clip featuring women.
@@Orbital_Inclination- it's hard to believe you're so unaware of the irony in feeling empowered enough to declare masculinity is 'acceptable'.
Your lack of understand reality is palpable.
Having experience with single gender units (male in my case, but I heard similar stories from women) I can attest to how much less toxic behavior there is in mixed gender units.
Yo General Public. With the leveling of rights should come the leveling of responsibilities. We are not all the "same" but We are all equal. Every job cannot and should not be done by everyone, skills and strengths follow the individual. jimmy
Facts don't support the premise of this series. The athletic record books clearly show men are stronger and fitter than woman. (USA Track and Field.) In order to commission 30% women into the officer corps standards have been lowered. Some, erroneously say, brought up to date. Instead of strong males being commissioned; the standard allows weaker males to pass out.
For example. The sinking of the Atlantic Conveyor in 1982 was a major set back for the British forces on the Falkland Isles. However, we were able to prevail because the forces adapted and carried very heavy packs, in adverse conditions, over a very long distance. I cannot imagine this lot doing the same.
The soldiers in the Falklands were mostly Royal Marines and Paratroopers if I'm not mistaken? meaning they are a league above the very best candidates in this course.
Sandhurst operates on the principle that every officer is a soldier first, hence the emphasis on Infantry skills, however most graduates will end up serving in other corps where physical fitness isn't the main priority.
Signals, Air Corps, REME, Adjutant Corps (MPs, Legal etc.), Int Corps, RLC, RAMC etc.
@@jakealcock5905These are officer candidates for the British Army, so the comparison doesn't make sense, as most of these women will have support roles and be responsible for providing medical care, intelligence, mechanical, communications and air support for soldiers in combat.
RMAS are not commissioning 30% women. There has been no adjustment to the number or percentage of women attending Sandhurst. They are just putting the women who do pass the entry test into platoons in larger groups eg where there are 6 platoons in an intake instead of allocating them equally at around 10% they put more women in 3 platoons at about 30% leaving 3 all male platoons. Entry standards and assessment standards throughout the course are unaffected. I hope that gives you a more accurate picture of the training we cover in these films.
10:38 😂😂😂😂😂
Aaahhh!...... Barossa Common - who can forget the cold wet nights huddled at the bottom of a sandy/stony trench (which took hours to dig!), nervously awaiting the 'enemy' attacks which denied you any form of sleep. In addition to the 'enemy' causing you grief, the constant silent patrolling of the Directing Staff (DS) around the trenches - eager to catch weary Cadets 'gonking on stag' (falling asleep whilst on sentry duty), helped add to the misery. But we loved it really, and when Endex was called, the prospect of a hot shower and dry clothes helped to restore morale.
@@stuarthunter1657 I thought I was reading a paragraph from sven hessel !!
Made bearable by a hot brew.
Nice and good things to read and reminder for me as one day i was there as an officer cadet ❤
Why not ladies have their own corp as WAAF etc, or lesser strength? With attachments for
Trade training & after?
As 39-45?
It's not just the training they endure...
Would they pass the commando course ..?.
Yes, lots of woman have, and lots of men have failed the commando course too
@@lachlanchester8142 miss information...how many exactly is lots ?
1.We talking all arms commando course ?
2.We talking 32 weeks at ctcrm recruitment training.
The answer to number 2 is non.......so don't say lots
The answer to number 1 is 4-6 from the information available and that's a generous estimate.
So from the literally thousands that try over a year and a half we have non as royal marines and a very very very small% for thr AACC.
So it's not lots
@@s.wvazim6517 okay, it’s not lots, but my point was more that this guy is insinuating they can’t when they clearly can, and that it’s not down to gender since plenty of men try and don’t succeed
I do believe that’s a volunteer thing, so they don’t have to and neither do the men.
Majority of the people in this series (men and women) would fail CTCRM. However, I can say with 99% confidence that all these women would fail CTCRM.
Thank you!
🇬🇧 From Boudica
To General Dame Sharon Nesmith...
Women are and always have been powerful daughters of Mother Nature herself...
Excellent effort! 💪🏼🍻
Isn’t Sharon Nesmith the one who said that the army was “too hierarchal”? 😂
8:13 the issue with this is that, with respect, all those issues are still there. 2019 was only five years ago.
Toughest training in the world? Da fuq? Look at those unorganized ranks at 0:10. Looks like Romper Room rather than a military academy.
That's why they are in training. You learn from what you get wrong, not right.
When’s the last time you seen a woman do anything on a battlefield? Waisted money and time
What woke piece of propaganda has forces news brought to me today?
You don't have to watch it, genius. Just keep scrolling if it doesn't interest you.
Sad thing, I remember that 1984 pass off parade! I was there. Feel REALLY old now.
British Army can’t defend Jack 😂😂😂 it’s less than 77,000 they need 110,000 to project any kind of power overseas 😂😂😂
❤
Give me a bucket... lol
]
Be wary of those hard bitten instructors ladies. Look to the Internet if you doubt what I mean. 19 relationships with instructors in a single cohort as recently as 2019? In the private sector that would be career-ending and put a training center in special measures... it's management too
Well it was pretty disappointing to hear that this “trial” of having platoons be made up of 30% women was actually only in FIVE platoons!!!! It sounds to me like it was SET UP to fail!! And this little docu-vignette series is REALLY meant to slap a band-aid on the SERIOUS problems within this school and the military as a whole and called it “mission accomplished”!!! It only serves to reinforce the fact that the serious problems and injustices women face are the least cared about, least prioritized issues and come last in the public consciousness!!! It won’t produce a misleading sense to the soldiers at this school, or the military at large, if you actually MAKE it your GOAL to have at least 30 to 40% of your military comprise of women at ALL LEVELS!!! It shouldn’t just be a goal at sandhurst!!!
It should be ZERO percent.
Cause chaos when the they come into season at the 'front' 😅 Sexist? Mwah!😂
For the record, the RAF had integrated Officer Training for decades before the 80s and sections and flights were fully integrated (accommodated and trained the whole "ish) and all Cadets male and female passed out together. 89 Course IOT December 1985
RAF is a little different to the Army.
It's british uhhhh.....
Think it would be better if the ladies wore trousers especially for marching.
They get the choice to, personal preference
Women ain’t leading NOTHING. I served over 11 years they are like Handbreaks 😂😂😂
Women in the trenches fighting toe to toe, gutter fighting.. ...I dont think so.....God help us !!
Well, they are doing it in Ukraine and Russian women during WW2 fought with the men. Some of the Russian women were talented snipers and put the fear of God in the Germans. Also, Kurdish women fought hard against ISIS in Iraq, so I don't think your argument holds much water.
why don’t you sign up then?
@@adipuppi I might have - you just can't know can you?
@@keithlillis7962 Hi, thank you for your response. How about women in the IDF & not forgetting those women in the north vietnamese army, the list goes on. Yes women made better snipers than their male counterparts in ww2 russian army all correct !the ukrainian army also have disabled people in their ranks. I dont recall any recorded incidents of how females have fared against any bayonet or hand to hand fighting against an enemy. Unfortunately society has been passified into not speaking the truth for fear of ridicule, women are a vital attribute to any army but fighting in a infantry is a step to far. The usmc have done many trials so has the british army & the IDF to determine if women could be integrated into the infantry, unfortunately the women ( who were already fully trained ) failed to keep up with the men couldnt carry the weight on long distance marches & didnt posses the level of agressiveness neaded. In short they presented a liability to other members of their unit. Of course this will never be accepted, the debate goes on.
@@adipuppi I did !! I served in the guards.
Omg let's hope we don't need them
Army going WOKE as men refuse to join the army.
Square bashing. Another pointless and expensive part of army training. Serves no practical purpose whatsoever. And please no lies about it installing discipline.
Ever served?
Ethos, heritage, etc are key parts of military power. That, combined with teamwork and discipline, is why parades are still conducted.
I think it's still common because of tradition and culture more than practical reasons, but drill does offer one way to teach teamwork, coordination, obedience and self-discipline (via care for your kit). Drill instructors are usually set in their ways, so the attitude is "why change it, if it works" ?"
Having said that, the more professional units place less emphasis on shiny shoes and sharp turns.
mingle6570 Beyond your imagination cupcake.
GonzoTehGreat It is an expensive and fairly pointless activity which the taxpayer has to fund to indulge top brass. It is still a case of lions led by public school donkeys
Some shocking drill going on there....was a lot better in my day (20 years ago). And the run used to be 1.5 miles in 10 mins 30. Sigh.
Cute.
Men are so sour in the comments lmao, just enjoy the video
😂😂😂
Home? This completely ignores Woowlich and even Mons...
The failure of General Staff starts at RMAS.
Hopefully we are not going to war in the near future, that would obviously end disastrously with a DEI army...
And the worst part is, people would die to protect ignorant people like you.
Can you at least volunteer to serve yourself, so that at least one casualty won't be a loss to society?
What a joke 😂
My god the short hair one thinks she needs other women around. She is doomed
Given the awful sexual assault and harassment rates in the armed forces inflicted overwhelmingly by men on women, she's not wrong for wanting some extra female company.
@@Orbital_Inclination how high are those rates exactly?
This is Great.suits him🫡