Wood may not be the best test, since a plank is not consistent in density. For example if you hit a knot versus a softer part of the plank. I'd like to suggest a more consistent a medium such as a clay block or ballistic gel. Definitely not as easy to come by as a plank. Still, thanks for the comparison and posting the video. Maybe even post another with additional comparisons using different objects as targets.
It's really hard to tell by shooting 🪵 wood, because of different densities within the wood 🪵 itself. A chronograph could tell you more of what you want to know 😉👍.
The sound suppression system works down range. Not behind the muzzle. Set a db meter out in front of the rifles about 10 meters out and you will see the diferance.
That's quite a distance shooting from a hundred feet. After 25 yards break barrel air guns tend to lose muzzle velocity and foot pounds of energy I do penetration tests from 20 yards and with my diana model 34 classic .22 air gun shooting jsb domed 15.89 grain lead pellets at about 650 to 700 feet per second velocity with about 15 or 16 foot pounds of energy it will penetrate through a 3/4 of an inch thick pine wood board as long as it don't hit a knot because knots are so dense and tough. I prefer to use thin plastic gallon water jugs back to back from 20 yards for penetration testing and my gun will almost penetrate through 2 of them. The pellets will poke the other side of the second jug though not quite exiting it. I did the same test with the diana 350 magnum .22 air gun I used to have shooting jsb domed 18.13 grain lead pellets at about 750 to 800 feet per second velocity and about 22 or 23 foot pounds of energy and it would penetrate through both of those same kind of water jugs from 20 yards away but not enter a third one so the 7 foot pounds difference between the 2 guns don't make much difference. I actually prefer my diana model 34 classic because it's lighter and smaller and has an easier cocking effort and I prefer the florescent sights on her and the ambidextrous stock
It largely depends on what pellet you are using. Both are outstanding. Count on upgrading the trigger and replacing the scope immediately. Other than that they are just lethal.
Nice video, I do understand this isnt a channel dedicated to air rigles and I'm NOT being critical in any way here in my comment. An accuracy test at 25-30 yds to show the capability of the rifles with those pellets would make a good video also. how hard it shoots takes the back seat to accuracy for me since I hunt small game with my air rifles. clay block or even better, ballistic gel will definitely give better results than a white pine board when comparing power.
the only 2 reasons im getting the vaporizer i 1 because it comes with a better scope and 2 its about 20 dollars cheaper where i get my airguns and accessories, etc
Not a good test because the vaporizer is probably not broken in yet and the trail is the older gun which is probably broken in, break barrels have to break in to produce their maximum power
All these pellet gun companies are gimmicks and false statements on there guns. I have the Gamo. 177 Gen 2 and the Gamo. 22 mag Gen 2 both are pretty much junk screws come loose even with lock tight the scopes that came with them both might as well open sights it would be better and nock the price of the guns down and not put scopes on them when they sale this junk and you can go buy a good scope that will keep zero. What I paid for these guns each it's not worth the price not worth more than a hundred dollars each if that. And it's the same thing with Crossman f4 and benjamin vaporizer. 22 junk scopes also might as well just buy a hundred dollar. 22 rim fire rifle that will out do all these pellet guns. And the .22 pellet guns don't even come close to the power of a real 22 cal rim fire the power or speed or impact its a big scam a joke customer service sucks. I gave up with pellet guns I have a reliable. 22 rifle stays zeroed even over a hundred yards and kills animals with no problem and didn't cost as much as these air guns. I sold all these pellet guns I had for $ 50 each and they wasn't even over a year old.
Not much point in having sound suppresors on an air rifle unless it is the pre charged type, most of the noise is from the piston and spring system be that a coil spring or gas spring. If you want more power from an air rifle try putting some easy start/ether in the back of the pellet.
that supressing system will suppress a dry fire haha my benjamin nitro piston first gen has no supression only a rubber handle near the muzzle its quiet until you dry fire then boom lol
@@llspacemonkeyll I have an unsuppressed rifle and have had a suppressed one in the past,the main noise is from the action of the piston and spring. As for putting easy start/ether I used to do that when I was younger, ether and diesel or light oil will give you a flame three foot long at night and on sometimes even enough pressure to re cock the spring,dose tend to burn the washers out on the piston though.
Wood may not be the best test, since a plank is not consistent in density. For example if you hit a knot versus a softer part of the plank. I'd like to suggest a more consistent a medium such as a clay block or ballistic gel. Definitely not as easy to come by as a plank. Still, thanks for the comparison and posting the video. Maybe even post another with additional comparisons using different objects as targets.
It's really hard to tell by shooting 🪵 wood, because of different densities within the wood 🪵 itself. A chronograph could tell you more of what you want to know 😉👍.
The problem with suppressors on a break barrel is that most of the noise comes from the piston slamming forward and not muzzle report.
Thanks for the honest review
The sound suppression system works down range. Not behind the muzzle. Set a db meter out in front of the rifles about 10 meters out and you will see the diferance.
That's quite a distance shooting from a hundred feet. After 25 yards break barrel air guns tend to lose muzzle velocity and foot pounds of energy I do penetration tests from 20 yards and with my diana model 34 classic .22 air gun shooting jsb domed 15.89 grain lead pellets at about 650 to 700 feet per second velocity with about 15 or 16 foot pounds of energy it will penetrate through a 3/4 of an inch thick pine wood board as long as it don't hit a knot because knots are so dense and tough. I prefer to use thin plastic gallon water jugs back to back from 20 yards for penetration testing and my gun will almost penetrate through 2 of them. The pellets will poke the other side of the second jug though not quite exiting it. I did the same test with the diana 350 magnum .22 air gun I used to have shooting jsb domed 18.13 grain lead pellets at about 750 to 800 feet per second velocity and about 22 or 23 foot pounds of energy and it would penetrate through both of those same kind of water jugs from 20 yards away but not enter a third one so the 7 foot pounds difference between the 2 guns don't make much difference. I actually prefer my diana model 34 classic because it's lighter and smaller and has an easier cocking effort and I prefer the florescent sights on her and the ambidextrous stock
I have the trail-dropped a large rabbit in its tracks..love it. Ty for the video.
I love experimenting too and your video was super informative. I feel a bit jipped though as I have the so called super quiet vaporizer, lol Thank you
Lol hahahaa u got aaawaa qqa pos gun thatncant y .
It largely depends on what pellet you are using. Both are outstanding. Count on upgrading the trigger and replacing the scope immediately. Other than that they are just lethal.
Anyone think a Chrony would take out some of the guess work?
I’m shopping for a decent air rifle to drop a groundhog. This might be the trick. Thanks!
It looks like the GAMO delta fox gt whisper, and it is affordable for such a good rifle
I have both guns there is no difference in the power plants both use the NP2 power system
Which one do you like best??
Nice video, I do understand this isnt a channel dedicated to air rigles and I'm NOT being critical in any way here in my comment.
An accuracy test at 25-30 yds to show the capability of the rifles with those pellets would make a good video also.
how hard it shoots takes the back seat to accuracy for me since I hunt small game with my air rifles.
clay block or even better, ballistic gel will definitely give better results than a white pine board when comparing power.
the only 2 reasons im getting the vaporizer i 1 because it comes with a better scope and 2 its about 20 dollars cheaper where i get my airguns and accessories, etc
Not a good test because the vaporizer is probably not broken in yet and the trail is the older gun which is probably broken in, break barrels have to break in to produce their maximum power
Try it again and diesel the pellets.
You needed to shoot many more pellets. Far from a controlled experiment. Any given part of that varying board could be harder or softer.
Good point! I'm a novice at airguns, love to shoot them but still learning
Buena. Guaton. Forty ..
Pine is an awful way to test this.
Why would u use different pellets 😐
Lol.. He used 2 different styles of pellets, 1 of each with each air rifle. To test different penetration abilities
They are both suppressed and shoot the same. Using wood is far from scientific. You can't go wrong with either one. especially for the price.
All these pellet gun companies are gimmicks and false statements on there guns. I have the Gamo. 177 Gen 2 and the Gamo. 22 mag Gen 2 both are pretty much junk screws come loose even with lock tight the scopes that came with them both might as well open sights it would be better and nock the price of the guns down and not put scopes on them when they sale this junk and you can go buy a good scope that will keep zero. What I paid for these guns each it's not worth the price not worth more than a hundred dollars each if that. And it's the same thing with Crossman f4 and benjamin vaporizer. 22 junk scopes also might as well just buy a hundred dollar. 22 rim fire rifle that will out do all these pellet guns. And the .22 pellet guns don't even come close to the power of a real 22 cal rim fire the power or speed or impact its a big scam a joke customer service sucks. I gave up with pellet guns I have a reliable. 22 rifle stays zeroed even over a hundred yards and kills animals with no problem and didn't cost as much as these air guns. I sold all these pellet guns I had for $ 50 each and they wasn't even over a year old.
Not much point in having sound suppresors on an air rifle unless it is the pre charged type, most of the noise is from the piston and spring system be that a coil spring or gas spring. If you want more power from an air rifle try putting some easy start/ether in the back of the pellet.
Have you tested your theory? Do you have an unsuppressed rifle?
that supressing system will suppress a dry fire haha my benjamin nitro piston first gen has no supression only a rubber handle near the muzzle its quiet until you dry fire then boom lol
@@llspacemonkeyll I have an unsuppressed rifle and have had a suppressed one in the past,the main noise is from the action of the piston and spring. As for putting easy start/ether I used to do that when I was younger, ether and diesel or light oil will give you a flame three foot long at night and on sometimes even enough pressure to re cock the spring,dose tend to burn the washers out on the piston though.
pretty biased review