.177 vs .22 Pellet sub 12fpe...5lb of FLESH (MEAT)!!!
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This is why air rifles aren't toys, they are serious hunting tools for small game.
yep!
Hear hear brother
25fpe can and will kill a human. And penetrate their skull. That’s why I’m always aware of what’s behind my targets and that’s why my son will learn to respect every gun, even little co2 pistols.
The Farming Airgunner absolutely my Hatsan 125 Vortex in .22 is steady at 27-28FPE with every pellet I’ve tried. It’s heavier than my fathers mossy and Remington shotguns
Gmar880 I have the Hatsan Torpedo 155 in .22, and that thing hits hard even using standard Crosman 14.3 Hollowpoint and pointed pellets. I’d honestly say the H&N hornet pellets in the 155 could probably take larger game within 25 yards or possibly 30 yards in a survival situation. After getting into airguns I realized that powder burners aren’t as necessary. Sure for home defense, but a pcp like the Hatsan Invader would make a sufficient home defense gun, especially being it’s semi auto.
My wife was watching this with me and had to laugh. She said "Typical male". Tape measure shows 9" and he says it's about a ft long. LOL :)
Underrated youtuber with lots of knowledge
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That comment earned my subscribe ! I'm new and learning fast, so I'll trust your opinion.
Yeah, he seems to be a cool, knowledgeable guy, but I don't agree with him running around shooting damn deer and hogs with a pellet gun. Can a pellet gun kill a deer? Yes, but so can a pair of toe nail clippers. Being humane is very important and no one is ever going to convince me that you can drop a deer in his tracks with a .22 or especially a .177.
I can see him shooting a deer, the deer staggering around in confusion and terror as this guy runs up and starts continuously shooting till its dead. Probably take around 15 to 20 pellets and 30 minutes.
EWC thats a good way to get popped in the mouth runnin' it like that. I beat people up, thats what I do. My hands are registered as harmful weapons in 2 states. My punches have been clocked at 1350 fps.
He is indeed love seeing a new vid of his pop up 👌👌👊
It's nice to see someone actually comparing the pellets equally by foot-pounds generated. My experience has been that the type of Crosman pellets you used don't expand because of the combination of materials the pellet is made of. These are the type of pellet I have used to take quite a few cottontails. Good video.
Thanks!
Anytime I have questions about my air rifle I always check your videos out first James. Always lots of information and explanations on so many air gun topics. Great video!
A simple demonstration with the conclusion unlike a lot of other demos. NICE JOB.
The most practical air gun videos on youtube right here folks. Thanks for making them.
You deserve far more views. Thank you for the knowledge
I'm brand new to airgunning, and I can definitely say without hesitation that I love everything about it.
Sorta wish I picked up the hobby years ago.
But I find your videos to be great and I've already learned a lot from you.
Thanks!
Thank you appreciate it!
I picked up a .22 air rifle about a year ago myself. I get all the fun out of it I got from centerfire, and it's something I can do in the backyard. In town.
Me too !!! I'm new to airgunning as of about a month or less ago !! I had a Co2 pistol when I was a kid, but never since. I own the Gamo Swarm Whisper 10X, Gamo PT-85, Crossman C11, DPMS SBR full auto, and the Umarex Steel Storm. It's addictive !!
Better late than never
me right now
I love these videos keep up the great content, very informative! Great choice of target for simulating flesh!
thank you!
Me and my cousin used to hunt squirrel in the same zone as you in atterbury, and that’s how we found you on here. I’m we first watched around 2013 and I hadn’t seen anything for about 5 years . I recall you having about 200 subs. So 5 years later looking you up to see you’ve climbed all the way to 30K is badass man. Congrats.
Thank you!
No Bologna was harmed during the making of this film.
You sir ,are a bologna murderer. Lol. So I guess my crossman mag fed with 1100 fps with 22 grain hybrid slugs would work for hunting small game or self defense . I haven't tested on melons or balogny but it will puncture a cake pan made of light gauge steel
Good vid
I see wild bologna all the time. The population needs thinned.
@@buckley3117 Death to Oscar Mayer!!!
@@pastorjoesackett Need to issue more permits.
I see you’ve also have shot your chronograph. Always a shock when it happens. Bullet hole is a reminder about the difference between bore height and optics height.
How fast was the pellet going when you shot the hell out of your cronometer?
I got the same chrono and shot my shades all to hell, works nice on a cloudy day though! ;)
play back fine out
Lmao
LOL i was looking for this comment that shit broken as hell
Awesome videos. Can't believe I've never come across your channel before now keep them coming
Thanks, will do!
Great demo! Keep up the great work!
thanks!
Did he wash his hands before the 2nd round, or did he shoot with balogna hands ?
Your videos are dope brother!!! Thanks for making them!
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Fascinating, never would've guessed you'd get these results
Ty budy for the video content :-) great job!
This is a good test. Subscribed.
I own a Gamo Whisper Swarm 10X .22 and I love it !! I want to get the .177 Gamo Magnum 10X next. Looking forward to your videos.
You are quite knowledgeable, I would say to anyone new to airgunning, watch this man's videos to become familiar with the nuances of the sport that you may otherwise never know, knowledge is indeed power. Thank you for a very good video.
Needs two layers of t-shirt in the front, two layers in the back, wrapped in a leather jacket, and to be backed by a new and improved, high tech fleece bullet stop.
dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Been binge watching with my brother for the last days :)
@Tripp Kristopher yea, I have been watching on Instaflixxer for since december myself =)
Paul 😏
Underrated UA-camr with lots of knowledge
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That pologna stuff really does not represent flesh/meat. Get Yourself a chunk of pork leg (with skin) and re-visit this experiment.
Exactly. That damn bologna is soft like butter.
They actually use pellet guns for hog hunting, so I'm pretty sure they'll go through. I have a Crossman Fury, 1200fps, shoots through 3/4 inch pine at 60ft out. That's not even for hog hunting.
Hes actually done that test with a deers head and it penatrated through the skull into the 🧠
@@mackenzielamb6513 For hog hunting if I want to go with an airgun, I have to have some sort of backup real firearm. Those fuckers are mean.
@@FuZe. lol, for sure. But if you know how to drop them a .25 or a .30 seems to do fine from videos I've seen. Even the pink pigs I've been around are wild at times.
And thank you for putting out another original exciting video me and my buddies do test similar to this can I recommend you trying potatoes they work pretty good and pumpkins and maybe not be that impressive but it really gives you a realistic performance
Thank you for the data
Aye thanks for keeping up with postinf
Thanks!
Always look forward to my bologna and pellet sandwiches 😍🤣
You just gained a new sub. Great information. You're correct, people really do underestimate the power of a modern air rifle. I had a pest opossum on my property. One evening I decided to see if my Gamo Swarm Maxxim .177 would stop the problem. About dusk, I set up and waited. The little bugger came out of cover and headed for the crawlspace. I spotlighted him and snapped my fingers to get its attention. He stopped, looking for the sound. 1 shot right between the peepers. That critter didn't even flinch. Just froze, dropped on his side and didn't even kick. He weighed 7 3/4 pounds. No more critter.
Well did ya have opossum burgers or what?
Have also noticed this pellet shortage, just bought a game varmit the other day and was shocked my local fleet farm was OUT of .177 pellets, however the Walmart in the next town had a decent selection
Bologna usually comes pre-killed.
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Usually
Recently received my first air rifle from my father for Christmas. Got to say I love the bloody thing it's a .177 it's the highest UK law will let you have without a gun licence. I shot a couple of cans of the top of my back wall. One of the pellets hit the wall with such force it took the top of the wall off. The wall is made of pure concrete btw. I've had a look online to see the wounds a .177 can deal and it's really nasty the only thing that seems to stop the pellets are bones. Air guns are no joke.
Same here
I am from india and here the power limit is 15 footpound
Love my 15 footpound air rifle a lot
I am 13
Mine can go throw 2 mm aluminum metal
Unfortunately you live in a communist country. So sorry.
LOL at 4:11 "crony issues" you think with all that holes in it that it still would work perfectly LOL... still really like your channel keep it up
This is why Apex Air Solutions preaches self-defense with air arms because it's safe to use inside of a house and not pass through walls but it will definitely maime your attacker appropriately
Thanks for the info 👍
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I recently started shooting blocks of wet clay avout the size and thickness of 7 or 8 decks of cards lined up. You get a really nice impact opening and wound channel, kind of like ballistic gel that freezes into impact shape.
Personally though I think a phone vook is the best analog.. Take a panel sat upright... Hang the phone book through the back 50 or so pages near the spine in a way that makes the book hang spine up from the panel flatly, as it would rest on a table. You want the edges to be squared up when hanging freely.
When the pellets enter you see a wound path and indication more in line with real game. The thin paper also sustains damage beyond the pellet rest point to indicate bruising from force. Give it a try.
Great video, this! The guy sure knows what he's talking about. I will visit this channel again.
So cool. I have 2 Gamo air rifles.
Gamo Hunter Extreme 1250
Gamo Hunter Extreme 1650
I knew that they are deadly. I just didn’t know how deadly that they both were. Very informative.
I also have the Gamo Whisper Storm 10X .22 and it's amazing !
My favorite is the Gamo Hunter Extreme 1250. It’s badass! I have had it for years. It has a very nice blued barrel, a nice scope, and is very accurate. I have bought a new main spring and seal, that I hadn’t replaced as of yet. I bet that my furthest shot that hit its target was at over a 1000 ft away, My kids thought that it was an impossible shot.
@@1stanich I just got the 1250 whisper. I could swear that the minute I pull the trigger I hear the target pop. and that's at 30 yards!
Hey what is the advertised fps on that .22 and what are you getting at the muzzle thanks :)
I personally use the Crosman.177 destroyer pellets. They are a hollow point with a tip inside, thing is gnarly. Would love to see them tested out some time on the channel
Thanks see what I can do!
One of the most nasty hollow points you can get that fragmented at almost any velocity in any caliber is the RWS super hollow points it's such a soft lead that even at low velocity is it just splits apart I hope you try this pellet it's nasty and pump up springers and nitro piston don't know about pcps but it's a really good pellet RWS super points
Thanks for the info!
@@STKO2011 And if you want to go for penetration, try the H&N Hornet. Most expensive pellet I ever saw here in Germany but they are really sharp pointed like on the picture of the box. You can prick your finger with a little bit of pressure and they really rip through some stuff. By law we can work with only 7.5 joule over here in G (about half of the energy your rifles have), but shot into telephone books, these guys buried themselfes like 2x-3x deep than the lead only flathead pellets, while the polymer-tip pellets went about 1,5 times deep. Would really love to see the difference with a properly propelled pellet (aka, shot out of a rifle with the energy yours have ;))
Awesome video buddy 👍🍻
Thanks!
A pellet shortage?! The world has gone mad! Air rifles have gotten so much better since I was a kid. You can actually take small game with them. Amazing.
For sure, I got one thinking it was no more than a "toy" to shoot targets in the backyard, but was very impressed.
Small game?
Hogs even.
@@Romin.777 Hogs are nasty enough that I still want a real firearm.
@@Fudmottin I do agree. But there are airrifles of 400ft/pounds in 357
But the rate of fire could make it gnarly. Haha
@@Romin.777 I bet those cost more than an AR! LOL. I guess if you want to do that though, just go after one lone hog and don't miss. Maybe shoot from a tree!
Great video
Damn that’s lethal
Very cool and informative, thanks.
You forgot the mustard and bread and a beverage
My friend just got a Gamo rifle and started testing in my yard and started shooting but some bounce in the wood where we shot, any tips for a solid shot? What material? And is it legal to shoot in house or its necessary for a shooting range?
@@sp33drr thanks for the info! I'll dig more into that
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I would still fry up that Bologna with Eggs and Potatoes! 🍳
Absolutely, a little cheese and Pace picante, tough to beat.
LOL I love how you're cronometer is broken from you shooting it
Air rifles have always been a passion of mine. I am waiting for the day that they start legislation against them like the government does with firearms. I have several air rifles that are at strategic locations in my home for home protection. I hate it for the poor fucker that tries to break in my home.
What air rifles you rocking?
Never shoot a damn home intruder with a pellet gun unless they are gonna kill you anyway. Most of the time they just want money or sex so just give them both and get them out.
@@desertweasel6965 ok boomer
Last thing we need is more legislation. Already so many constitutional rights being violated.
Calm down Francis .
The 16 grain H&N hornet pellets I shoot from my Diana model 34 classic .22 air rifle would penetrate through all 5 pounds of the bologna and leave a nasty wound channel the way they penetrate and expand. I recently ordered me another tin of 200 of them from pyramyd air because there is a shortage and they was out of stock a spell
That thumb nail will give politicians reason to start wanting to put bans on air rifles.
Question I have a gamo 975 22cl 5.5 Is that strong enough to kill a iguana lizard
Me and over a quarter million people came here to watch you plink balogna 😆
Liked and subscribed. great video
Awesome thank you!
Thanks for making this video. I haven’t seen bologna as a shooting medium before, lol!
Thanks!
Have any bread and cheese and mustard, your video got me hungry lol, great video.
Thank you!
Good video as usual.just received 5000 rounds 177 hollow point.
That is awesome!
Bologna isnt a great example. Hell, its mainly water and has no muscle fiber or anything. Its basically puree meat compressed into a log and sliced.
The resistance on processed meat vs human live flesh is very different but i guess nobody else has done something similar so thanks and good job
I am looking to get a air rifle for hunting squirrels, rabbits and raccoons. Which air rifle do you recommend 500 or less. I also want to be able to replace parts as the go bad over time. I would like one that is powerful, and very accurate . Thanks Jeff .
If yoy are worried about a pellet shortage it might be worth investing in a pellet making press, sure they cost a fair bit but over time youll make your money back, they can also make slugs in pretty much any caliber you want, all you need is lead wire which you can make yourself with two half aluminium block cnc'd or milled a channel into it so when mated together they create a lead wire that way you dont have to buy lead wore on a spool from the manufacturers who sell the press, the wire being perfectly circular isnt essential as it will be squeezed and squished into the correct shape and excess is squeezed out of a small hole built onto the press.
You can go one step furthar and weigh and size the slugs/pellets (i do this with tinned pellets then seperate them into marked tins of their respective weight and gwt the most consistent accuracy that way, sure it takes a bit of time but you can do this while just chilling out or watching tv kust make sire you wash your hands with some dish soap moxed with granulated sugar to really get any particles of lead off you.
You can wash the pellets before weighing and sizing but by doing that you are basically hotting diminishing returns in terms of performance ive learnt from first hand experience the best increase to accuracy is from sizing and weighing.
Its not neccesary but here in the uk with our sub 12 ftlb airguns without an FAC accuracy is the most important factor to consider when it comes to any pest control or small game harvesting
22 is no joke.. serious piece of kit
Very cool. Would like to see this done with Gamo Red Fire, PBA Raptor or similar higher end ammo.
I was really surprised it went through all five, especially after a plastic / duct tape skin 😳
Real live meat may be a bit tougher. I have a hw30, aim for the head.
In the first round the 22 cal went all the way through you can see the exit hole in the duct tape. Cool demo
With all the pcp hype it’s nice to see a springer
Thanks!
Would like to see comparison at same distance of .177 and .22 air rifles (same pellets as here) both that shoot at about 800 fps to show how much penetration difference on some comparable type penetration target and also a target that shows difference in impact damage to target.
Wow i haven't seen that gamo till now. It's a lil slow but I like that reloading mechanism. It's awesome. I
In wich episode u have the test with shooting the cronometer?
In Canada, that there is 40 bucks worth of bologna .... Thanks for the show ...
Hay James the bologna is a pretty good medium to shoot through. Pellet Shortage? I can find Ruger, Gamo, H&N excite, Daisy, and some Crosman pellets online at Amazon and Walmart. You just have to check daily. You can order from Crosman directly and pay a couple $$ more. Even PA and AGD have some Hades in stock.
Thanks, at the time of the recording Predator Int'l, online retailers, and my local stores were out of everything
Hollow points are hunting pellets meant for high muzzle energy guns.
My 7.5 joule 240 classic is better off firing wadcutters for quicker energy transfer to target.
Thanks!
good thing the chrono made it safely this time
great. now i am hungery
So low budget but clever. I don't know why I like it
His wife is like will you quit shooting all the Bologna 😂😂
So what is the overall best air rifle under 400$ that is not PCP and .22 cal ?
I personally think you should have used a muscle meat versus baloney to be a true representation of what the penetration would be although definitely more expensive to do.
Thanks for the demo.
Nice job shooting your chronograph
I have both .177 & .22 rifles my grandad gave me there both made by webley and there old rifles he bought them in the 1950s
This is the first test I have seen of yours that interests me. You have a consistent density target, you controlled the energy at the target well, You are using 2 different calibers with the same model pellet. I am at min 4:34 right now, taking apart the meat after each has hit it with equal energy, and I will predict. You controlled all the factors I can think of pretty well, and what we learn from the penetration should be pretty valid. Which one made more penetration? I am going to say they are about the same. Gonna see now. :)
Works the way it is supposed to. Just Good
I'm new to airguns. I have a gamo .177 caliber @ 1420 FPS, should I switch to a .22?
If youre getting the same model but in .22, the .22 version will always hit harder than the .177 even though is travels slower, which some people like. If it travels at less than 1,250 or 1,200 fps, it travels slower than the speed of sound, it wont have that cracking sound from sonic boom. The .177 is more for target practice as it flies straight farther, the .22 is more for small game hunting as it hits harder, it would be a faster kill, being more ethical. It really depends what youre looking to use it for.
Finally! A practical use for bologna!
You got a Lot of Bologna sammiches coming your way Bro 😂👊👍
It does not look like the pellets expanded much at 9:22. You might try this with round nose pellets and see how they compare to the hollow point. I would expect them to penetrate better, but I don't know if it would be enough to be significant. Everyone says pointed pellets are the best for penetration, but I have my doubts how much difference that little point makes. The point is easily damaged and that will upset the balance of the pellet and affect accuracy. That's my thought anyway, but I have not seen any data to backi it up. Comparing penetration of the three styles would be an interesting video.
I know what rifle I'm buying for next time I'm off boloney hunting!
I noticed that the crony was damaged. Any issues?
It would be interesting to compare penetration comparison between 177, 22 pellet and a .22 short rim fire 🤔
H&N make a 20 grain .177 pellet (I've forgotten the name of them)
Trust me when I say you need to get some,
If they suit your barrel ,well you are going to seriously enjoy them, I use them in a 12 fpe PCP rifle, all I can say is WOW! seriously powerful.
They also make a 30 grain .22 pellet called "Piledriver" that thing is a beast.
great video! can you do pellet vs jacket? a lot of people think a jacket and layers can stop a pellet. it may be able to but could do other damage. in regards to self defence.
Thanks! I'll see what I can do
Pellet rifles are optimal for pest control a 22 or 177 can take out rats squirrels and all kinds of varmits. By no means are they a joke they can cause serious harm. Most are not as powerful as a regular rifle but they hit hard and do the job. Awesome video.
Now I want a damned bologna and gubmnt cheese sammy!
Have you ever worked with the ballistics calculator on Pyramyd Air's web site?. All you have to do is get a crony reading at two different distances, (muzzle and 20 yards is good. 40 yards may be more accurate), and from that (pellet weight, speed and energy at the crony's and distance between the crony's), you can figure out the BC, (Ballistics Coefficient for that pellet). From there, you can figure out the trajectory, (from horizontal), fps and energy at any distance the pellet will fly. You should play with that calculator while thinking about your first on-line engineering classes. I am going to get you to earn that degree yet sir! You will amaze yourself. :)
Should it solved if .20 pellets and maybe luxe heavy .177 pellets what same impact energy as .22 with more high velocity as .177?
What is the best 12ft lbs in your opinion?
The neighbors are saying that guy is out bopping his bologna again