Thanks for all the love! Please subscribe if this stuff is entertaining to you, means a load! I’ve been pinned down lately. Test drive and other cottage related content planned for summer. Cheers!
So I build the parts for these ( brake and sheer shop in Ontario) my papa and I have had a OLD Argo from back in the day, I’m contemplating a Honda 600R motor swap
Biggest problem with 6x6/8x8 is engine cooling especially when an air cooled engine is used . All u need to do is manufacture duct work to motor air inlet . Most early Argo and similar had dedicated duct work for both inlet and exhaust airflow exit .
Did a Honda v twin swap in an Argo back into 98", had and ended up with off set clutch issue. The belt, after swap, with a with a "Power Block" clutch would angle improperly upon open thottle. Never did figure our why. Young and ignorant I guess. Ran like a champ though.
Honda GX v twins are great engines. i`ve owned 4 of them. Only thing is they like to have partial choke for a few minutes while warming up otherwise theres a small throttle hesitation.
You would think a computer run fuel injected engine would run great and compensate for elevation changes. I’m curious to see how the power difference between the 28 hp Subaru and the Honda 22.1 hp (16.5 kW) @ 3,600 rpm. Can’t wait for the test run video. Thanks
That was my initial hope. Engine history is unknown - could be high hr. It’s a pretty low tech FI system. Reminds me of when VW started making their flat 4’s FI in the 70’s. Honda 690 runs great. Once I can carve a slice out of my schedule I’ll put up a video of it in action. Cheers!
@@leroylefort5069 lmaooooo no. Not a chance lmao. I legit service industrial wash equipment, almost all of which use a v twin. Honda and vanguard are the only ones that hold up.
Haha, that's great. But I have 30 years on those small engines, it may be model specific for the area and type of equipment using them. Nice project , good luck. 👍
Possibly. A big fat no depending who’s asking. Problem with the Subaru is they stopped supporting them in ~2015. Parts are scarce and support is non existent in terms of diagrams that go inside the FI module. Haven’t given up, I’ll try to get it going again this summer for another project. Mud motor attached to a floating dock maybe? Check back in a bit, cheers!
That really seems to make things more accessible in the engine compartment. I might need one of those for my 99 conquest?? Is the starter accessible with that Honda? Mine is between the engine and transmission. It would be a nightmare in the bush!
I have a 90's model argo 8x8 with tracks, it has an old 18 hp briggs in it and it needs more power for sure. I was thinking of an engine swap, if anyone has any ideas or knows of anything else I need to change along with a higher hp engine, I would greatly appreciate any feedback. I would pay someone to do the job but I live in southeast Texas and Noone around here I've spoken to really knows anything about them (including me) or they just act uninterested in doing the job. Argos just aren't that common around me I suppose.
Thank man! Started filming, probably wont be out until early spring if I'm being honest. Trails closest to me are still being used for snowmobiles. Cheers!
What was the issue with the Kawasaki?... i have an 8x8 conquest like this with tge FD620D engine. When i thrash it hard recoveting a moose from the bush, i get an issue where the carboretter bowl gets so hot, the fuel is boiling up. It is driving me nuts & I have not yet figured out a fix or a root cause.
The Kawasaki engine was already out when I got this Conquest. I just replaced the he engine he had in it for the Honda. Brand new + Honda reliability. In your case I’m not sure. Make sure your cooling system is fully operational (rad plugged with mud/ leafs etc) heat shields in place, air filter not clogged etc. I do believe these struggle to keep cool when worked hard in the heat but worth giving it a look over. Good luck
Personally, I would just strip back the Honda wiring, easy to find out which wire from the original harness triggers the solenoid, find a direct power lead for the backfire prevention solenoid, if it has one. Find out which wire's go to the charging system and hook them up accordingly. But that's just me, I love small engine wiring, I'm the type of person who puts a back fire prevention solenoid back on a machine, after somebody cut one off. Small engine or tractor wiring, definitely isn't as hard as a lot of people make it look. I like those stand-alone engines with the key switch, but they are definitely very easy to wire up correctly.
Thanks! As long as the dimensions are the same I’d say you’re good to go. Rotation is the same. As far as working with the clutches make sure you get the igx800 with the right shaft, looks like there are three versions. Cheers
Liked and subscribed to help you out. It's amazing how many people view videos but don't bother to give it a like you know what I mean. But yeah cool dig your videos and can't wait to see the thing tearing up the trails 👍🏻
Of course, however I don’t have a puller that big with that amount of reach. Not confident the aluminum sheaves would have been up to the task either but I probably would have tried - carefully - if I had one large enough, Cheers
@@johnny_boy7612 Yes, it’s got a 1-1/8 keyed strait shaft, same as that year Argo. That said that engine is also available with a 1” shaft as well as a tapered shaft. Cheers
@EricFB thanks , just watching your video and wanna do this to my argo , I have the 90 8x8 argo with the older m18 kohler , still haven't touched it or looked at it yet and was wondering if the clutch would work off it on the honda engine
Thanks! Ran great, smooth idle, good throttle response, very confidence inspiring. Definitely a conversion worth considering (Honda or other) if your engine is getting tired. Machine feels brand new again.
I see all kinds of videos people using a very expensive store bought degreaser. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS TO MIX A FEW OUNCES OF A GOOD LAUNDRY DETERGENT ON A SPRAY BOTTLE. NO TRIPPS TO THE STORE AND A HELL OF A LOT SHEAPER.
Thanks for all the love! Please subscribe if this stuff is entertaining to you, means a load! I’ve been pinned down lately. Test drive and other cottage related content planned for summer. Cheers!
I do frame out restorations on these machines. I love them for their simplicity.
You can get the exhaust header ceramic coated to cut down on the heat in your engine bay
So I build the parts for these ( brake and sheer shop in Ontario) my papa and I have had a OLD Argo from back in the day, I’m contemplating a Honda 600R motor swap
Biggest problem with 6x6/8x8 is engine cooling especially when an air cooled engine is used .
All u need to do is manufacture duct work to motor air inlet . Most early Argo and similar had dedicated duct work for both inlet and exhaust airflow exit .
Superb work. Hope you get years of great performance out of the Honda engine.
Did a Honda v twin swap in an Argo back into 98", had and ended up with off set clutch issue. The belt, after swap, with a with a "Power Block" clutch would angle improperly upon open thottle. Never did figure our why. Young and ignorant I guess. Ran like a champ though.
Super Clean and simple!! Thank you for sharing the repower!!
Thanks!
Honda GX v twins are great engines. i`ve owned 4 of them. Only thing is they like to have partial choke for a few minutes while warming up otherwise theres a small throttle hesitation.
I'm doing the same thing with same argo. Thanks for info.
Awesome!
Just wondering if you ever check the valves in the old engine.
Never did actually. Hoping to get it going again in the future for another project. Will check valves for sure! Cheers
You would think a computer run fuel injected engine would run great and compensate for elevation changes.
I’m curious to see how the power difference between the 28 hp Subaru and the Honda 22.1 hp (16.5 kW) @ 3,600 rpm. Can’t wait for the test run video. Thanks
That was my initial hope. Engine history is unknown - could be high hr. It’s a pretty low tech FI system. Reminds me of when VW started making their flat 4’s FI in the 70’s. Honda 690 runs great. Once I can carve a slice out of my schedule I’ll put up a video of it in action. Cheers!
Just seems like the valves need to be adjusted
Awesome project but surely you could have fixed whatever was wrong with the Subaru fuel injection for less time and effort than that took.
Yes, a much needed valve adjustment and a little maintenance. Subaru and Kawasaki are both equally as good as Honda engines.
@@leroylefort5069 lmaooooo no. Not a chance lmao. I legit service industrial wash equipment, almost all of which use a v twin. Honda and vanguard are the only ones that hold up.
Haha, that's great. But I have 30 years on those small engines, it may be model specific for the area and type of equipment using them. Nice project , good luck. 👍
Possibly. A big fat no depending who’s asking. Problem with the Subaru is they stopped supporting them in ~2015. Parts are scarce and support is non existent in terms of diagrams that go inside the FI module. Haven’t given up, I’ll try to get it going again this summer for another project. Mud motor attached to a floating dock maybe? Check back in a bit, cheers!
@@EricFB oh yeah if there's not support from the manufacturer that's definitely a problem. I didn't realize that they didn't support them anymore.
Greate video. Thinking about changing out the old kohler in my 1988 argo with a loncin 27hp (chinese Honda copy)
Very interesting can you please tell me something about thé cymbal turbine.
That really seems to make things more accessible in the engine compartment.
I might need one of those for my 99 conquest?? Is the starter accessible with that Honda? Mine is between the engine and transmission. It would be a nightmare in the bush!
Hey Eric, as a fellow small Canadian UA-cam channel, I threw you a sub. Best of luck getting to that magic 1k/4k mark.
Thank you! :)
I have a 90's model argo 8x8 with tracks, it has an old 18 hp briggs in it and it needs more power for sure. I was thinking of an engine swap, if anyone has any ideas or knows of anything else I need to change along with a higher hp engine, I would greatly appreciate any feedback. I would pay someone to do the job but I live in southeast Texas and Noone around here I've spoken to really knows anything about them (including me) or they just act uninterested in doing the job. Argos just aren't that common around me I suppose.
That's why you make sure you stainless steel tubing on your exhaust
When's the part 2 coming? I'm working on a vangaurd 2 engine with a 18hp Honda myself, awesome video bud
Thank man! Started filming, probably wont be out until early spring if I'm being honest. Trails closest to me are still being used for snowmobiles. Cheers!
garrett sells a turbo thats perfect for that motor!
Sounds like the cam/crank timing sensor may have been the main problem with your Subaru motor?
What was the issue with the Kawasaki?... i have an 8x8 conquest like this with tge FD620D engine. When i thrash it hard recoveting a moose from the bush, i get an issue where the carboretter bowl gets so hot, the fuel is boiling up. It is driving me nuts & I have not yet figured out a fix or a root cause.
The Kawasaki engine was already out when I got this Conquest. I just replaced the he engine he had in it for the Honda. Brand new + Honda reliability. In your case I’m not sure. Make sure your cooling system is fully operational (rad plugged with mud/ leafs etc) heat shields in place, air filter not clogged etc. I do believe these struggle to keep cool when worked hard in the heat but worth giving it a look over. Good luck
Personally, I would just strip back the Honda wiring, easy to find out which wire from the original harness triggers the solenoid, find a direct power lead for the backfire prevention solenoid, if it has one.
Find out which wire's go to the charging system and hook them up accordingly.
But that's just me, I love small engine wiring, I'm the type of person who puts a back fire prevention solenoid back on a machine, after somebody cut one off.
Small engine or tractor wiring, definitely isn't as hard as a lot of people make it look.
I like those stand-alone engines with the key switch, but they are definitely very easy to wire up correctly.
So awesome
Guess we don't get part 2?
I was wondering when someone was going to say that! It will happen, might just have to wait another minute though, cheers!
Way to go!
Great video, thanks for the tutorial. Would the Honda 800 IGX motor fit and do you think the Argo Conquest trans would work with it?
Thanks! As long as the dimensions are the same I’d say you’re good to go. Rotation is the same. As far as working with the clutches make sure you get the igx800 with the right shaft, looks like there are three versions. Cheers
Thanks Again.
@@EricFB like you I use my Argo in remote Alaska wilderness. Have you had any issues at all with the fuel injection system?
Nice job
Liked and subscribed to help you out. It's amazing how many people view videos but don't bother to give it a like you know what I mean. But yeah cool dig your videos and can't wait to see the thing tearing up the trails 👍🏻
Thanks brother!
Ever think of using a Pulley puller to remove that clutch?????????????
Of course, however I don’t have a puller that big with that amount of reach. Not confident the aluminum sheaves would have been up to the task either but I probably would have tried - carefully - if I had one large enough, Cheers
Nice job 👍
Thank you!
Honda shaft work with your clutch ?
@@johnny_boy7612 Yes, it’s got a 1-1/8 keyed strait shaft, same as that year Argo. That said that engine is also available with a 1” shaft as well as a tapered shaft. Cheers
@EricFB thanks , just watching your video and wanna do this to my argo , I have the 90 8x8 argo with the older m18 kohler , still haven't touched it or looked at it yet and was wondering if the clutch would work off it on the honda engine
Good job 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Is the Honda quieter?
Just about the same actually. That said I’m using the same muffler.
So have you taken it for a drive yet?
I have! Ran great. Trying to carve a slice out of my schedule to film part 2 - hopefully sooner than later. Cheers!
great video man. How did it run when you finally took it out?
Thanks! Ran great, smooth idle, good throttle response, very confidence inspiring. Definitely a conversion worth considering (Honda or other) if your engine is getting tired. Machine feels brand new again.
I see all kinds of videos people using a very expensive store bought degreaser. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS TO MIX A FEW OUNCES OF A GOOD LAUNDRY DETERGENT ON A SPRAY BOTTLE. NO TRIPPS TO THE STORE AND A HELL OF A LOT SHEAPER.
Diesel works just as good as WD40. Just cheaper.
Nope not yet anyway
The better engine is a Honda engine clone