It was great to seeing Justin in front of the camera giving his opinion on the GH5 You guys are awesome , I always walked away with a new knowledge of something from your videos. Thank you
Things to test GH5 on the photo side: - Color improvements over GH4 - Dynamic range (better highlight recovery or better shadow recovery?) - Best color profiles in post-processing. I love Cinelike V. - Raw sharpness vs. Fuji and Sony - Lowlight AF - AF management (thumbstick) - Slowest handholdable shutter - Flash sync, Flash capabilities. - DFD vs Non-DFD lens behavior. - Wifi control
Justin! Great 1st time leading the video. Hope we get to see more of you! Tony and Chelsea are among my favorite UA-camrs because of their down to earth personality and humorous content! But it's great to see them bring the camera man from the background to the forefront. I love it!
When you're on movie mode in the dial, there's an icon on the top left of the screen that tells you if you're on move A, S, P, M mode. If you press that icon on the top left of the screen, it's a quicker way to select whether to go A, S, P or M mode in movie vs. going through the menu system.
I just program the movie modes I want into C1... C2... C3 and you also have main movie dial too... That's four entirely different movie modes on the dial... There's no need to go through the program functions each time you want to change...
Nice video and always good to hear real world experiences as they are just as valuable as testing. So much is talked about spec and testing these days its always good to hear a users thoughts on how a camera performs. Justin is becoming more natural with every video too. Keep up the great work.
Awesome video. I love that you're putting Justin in front of the camera more! You've got a solid team! I just came from the drone video. That was brilliant.
I would like to see video where you pull focus using the touchscreen and also the built-in feature that allows you to define focus points ahead of time and then run through the sequence.
Great early review guys, can't wait to see the full one! Since the 6K photo mode was marketed quite heavily I'd love to see a comparison of the 6K photo mode quality and flexibility to regular photos. I know it uses HVEC (h.265) which hold detail much better than h.264 but I would guess it be be worse than shooting a JPEG and much worse than RAW. I pull stills from 4K often and know I can get some good results video if I had everything perfect but the files are not very flexible in post and fall apart quickly. THANKS GUYS!
Exactly. UA-cam has such a low bitrate for 1080p so downscaling 4K is the only way to get decent video quality. Even on my 24" 1080p display it's a very noticeable improvement.
The GH5 4k60p footage looks stunning on my 1080p display. It's not just the YT compression (then you could just upscale 1080p to 4k to workaround that), I think straight out of camera it looks sharper and even when selecting 1080p in YT native 4k footage tends to look sharper. I guess it is because most cameras have quite a soft output at 1080p.
First off, this video is awesome! Justin and Tony, the conversation between the two of you all was about the features and functions of the GH5 was wonderful. Secondly, Sony really needs to get it together with the battery life of their cameras. Many professionals and serious video enthusiasts will not take Sony cameras seriously because of the poor battery life. Thirdly, Tony.....I really believe that you are at your best at these in-dept techie videos, which I love so much. Keep'em coming man! Lastly, I still remain dedicated to still photos as oppose to video shooting, but I do enjoy the video aspects of your channel. Then channel if very informative and entertaining, except the 'chit chat' segments.
Great one guys! Have you compared the autofocus of the GH5 vs the G85? Curious if you feel the G85 has improved over he G4 in that department but maybe not as good as the GH5 or maybe even equal too.
I'd really like to see how much you can push the still raw files. Basically would this make a good light weight travel camera with the added bonus of being a great video camera?
I noticed it drifts out of focus when the background is considerably brighter than the subject. Even if there is less contrast on the background as compared to subject. Not sure if it is a thing, but something I have noticed.
Am very interested in the 18 megapixel stills pulled from the video on the 4/3rds sensor as compared to the 8 megapixel stills pulled from the Canon 5D Mark IV on the full frame sensor,,,,am primarily a stills shooter but someday wonder if especially for sports and wildlife and events might be shooting video and pulling stills from it....
The GH5 is an awesome incredibly solid production camera. There seems to be a lot of whining about autofocus out there without really targeting what is really spectacular about this camera. I have a bunch of interview/profile/story videos to do with my yoga students and filmed the first one yesterday. I am doing it alone with 2 cameras so i don't have time to turn the camera on and off without distracting the person who is being interviewed so I just let it run. Yesterday it was over an hour straight. I was filming in C4k 24fps with a 12-35 2.8 OIS Panasonic lens as my main camera and I had a Fuji XT2 as a second angle in BW. There was not a hiccup with the GH5. All natural light with a wired lav. The Fuji cut out after 10min and I was too distracted to turn it back on again. When I got to look at the footage I was so impressed, with the color, with the clarity and overall quality of the image. I was so upset with the FUJI that I will certainly trade it and the lenses i have and get a 2nd GH5. I know this camera will not let me down. I don't have to worry about overheating or record time limits and can just focus on my subject and get a great interview. I think Sony gets a free ride on the REAL LIFE production capabilities and ease of use for someone in my situation who has to go it alone. BTW, I was in manual focus mode.
Assuming Chelsea/Madelyn can’t work the studio stuff I would prefer it just left to record with no cuts and both of you in front of the camera (preferably mix in the footage after but optional). It is quite an odd format for a conversation and I never really wanted such a good look up your nose!
That would mean not watching the video, and I really like his videos. It is just one of those times that I would prefer something simpler. As I said, I would prefer, I didn’t say if it happened again I would dislike and unsubscribe. I think most people like honest feedback!
ben luz do you feel kind of offended so you had to post such reaction to a constructive feedback by Bowie Sensei? Then stop looking at the comments.. (the same "logic" applied)
To be able to change the mode dial to be a movie only dial if needed would be brilliant. Untile then, just like in the GH4, I use the 3 available ,,C,, positions all customised for video mode, and it mostly eliminates that problem for me. But still a switchable functions dial would be nicer.
I regularly shoot meetings using Panasonic cameras of various kinds - mainly G7 and GX80s - which often involve shooting for seven or eight hours at a time. I have never EVER suffered any overheating problems, whatever the ambient temperature.
having just shot a full 2 hour stage presentation with the GH5, I can attest that there is no overheating problems. How about including working to add features to the "my menu" and function keys to allow one to get around the problems of the menu being locked during shooting?
Nice video guys. FYI when you're in M-video mode and want to quickly access PSA video modes just touch the red box with the M in upper left of the screen.
Thanks for this. Nice to see Justin talk about his real world use of this camera, especially the AF. I believe the concerns with the continuous AF are ridiculous. As you said, no camera is perfect and even the Sony cameras have occasional issues. I have done, and continue to do, testing of my GH5 continuous AF with the 12-35 V2 and have found AF not to be an issue for what I will use it for. Of course, the overall features of this amazing camera speak for themselves. Looking forward to your full review.
Justin video! I wouldn't say the focus is a dslr vs mirrorless thing. The Sony is pretty damn good and pretty accurate. Canons dual pixel af is king. But the Panasonic so far just isn't good. Yet I hope. But the video options for this price is insane.
Eric Rossi very well said sir. In my experience so far, professionally and yes professionals DO use these cameras for those who think they don't, the AF is quite unreliable. For UA-cam videos it works ok, still though it IS unreliable right out of the box. But as far as operability, it is lightyears above anything else in its price class. I will say it does feel like a GH3 in the sense that it's features overall aren't as mindblowing or 'ahead' of its time at being the first like the GH4 was, but so far I'm enjoying my time with it. Is it better than the A6500 which I own, or the GH4 itself.... it depends on your use for it.... if you strictly want the best autofocus then you might want to look at the canons and Sonys at this current time, but if you want a camera you really don't have to worry about and is gonna get the job done everytime... the GH5 is def THE camera to consider at this price range.
As you seem to have access to the OM-D E-M1 Mark II comparing the stabilising systems, hand-held, and rolling shutter would be one of the real useful tests, given that on both are, supposedly, E-M1 II's strong points.
Thumbs up. As someone who is purchasing the gh5 for video, the auto focus controversy is moot for me, as I will be shooting in manual mode 100% of time. I will mate my gh5 with the metabones booster and decades old prime Nikkors. I was weaned decades ago on pure manual focus and am quite comfortable with it. I have learned to think ahead, preset focus, set hyper focal distance, preset aperture stopped down, etc. For shooting wide apertures for blurred/bokeh background, I obviously have to be more precise. But my research says that the lcd and evf on the gh5 are absolutely superb, along with focus peaking. As for follow focusing with wide f/stop/aperture, it helps to practice a lot and have a well smooth and well damped focus ring. I mean, world class cinematographers have been doing it manually for a hundred years. Man up and be your own focus puller!:) I even have a diy method of setting physical focus stops on manual lenses...a little masking tape and small metal pins. But with the great articulating lcd on the gh5, it may be quicker and easier to simply mark the focusing stops and ranges with a pen for visual reference.
can we see some low light footage/performance and some low aperture auto focus tests on a few different lenses, thanks! also do you have a metabones speedbooster or aperture dec lensregain? would love to see the bokeh on the video with those on the gh5
Would love to see you try out the new focus transition feature in a real world environment (preset 3 focus marks and rack between them). Also showing if the waveform monitor makes it easier to expose for v-log.
9:45 - hey, hey, don't be bashing the EM1ii. Intuition is relative to the user and what they are used to. Anything new isn't intuitive. I've been using the EM1ii for about 2 weeks now and I do find it intuitive!!!
Things to review: AF versus EM1M2 in stills and video & AF with speedbooster and APSC lenses Its weird I got a EM1M2 last month and have mostly done stills with it and love the camera. I noticed my viewing of camera review videos has gone down a lot (and I have so much more free time!!!) but really curious as to how speedboosters work with the GH5 and EM1M2. Most of the videos I have seen have been people who just use manual focus and I would like to see some real world experience and see how good the autofocus is with a speedbooster - great, terrible, alright for walking around, etc. I would really like to know. THX
It would be nice to have a specific review of the gh5 for stills also. There is almost none in youtube and it would be wonderful if you could fill the gap.
hey please test the image sharpness on the same lens with different bodies add a metabones adapter to the test too for DOF/FOV vs crop / full sensors too ? im sure u will do the rest on your own ^^
If you're a one man group and the autofocus isn't great is there an app for the GH5 you can use on your phone to set up shots from a distance? Say you want to do a full body talking shot. Are you able to control where it focuses, exposure, iso, etc?
Christopher Pack yes there is an app that gives you complete control over that. You can even manually focus with focus peaking from your phone remotely.
I know you guys say this is exclusively a video camera for you but I would honestly like to see your thoughts regarding it's 20 megapixel sensor being used for 6k photo and raw stills overall. Also potentially to see how it may stack up as a sports camera with its burst rate. Thank guys.
In movie mode, on the screen just click the top left icon for A P S M modes. Touch screen has a LOT of usage compared to other cameras. This is a huge advantage over other brands :)
Is it really accurate to say that mirrorless autofocus will never be as good as DSLRs? For example, is the Dual Pixel AF in the EOS M5 substantially worse than in the 80D? Casey Neistat has switched from the 80D to a6500 and I haven't noticed the AF to be noticeable poorer.
Robert Kwolek As a former owner of an a6000, I have never had a problem with Sony's autofocus system. I actually thought it was awesome. I wish the Panasonics were as as good in that department.
The 5 dollar film maker Casey is using the GH5. Look at his latest vids, in the description it tells you what his newest camera is. He went from the Sony a6500 to the RX100 Mark V, and now to the GH5.
Yeah, firmware updates can definitely fix them... and I've asked both Metabones & Panasonic but neither have replied. I'm assuming one or the other will fix the problems, though.
Excellent introduction. What would I like to know? I'd like to know the inside scoop on when Metabones will be fixing the incompatibility issue between the 0.64 Ef to MFT speed booster adapter and Canon/Sigma EF glass. Also, what you might consider to be the best FD lenses. Is the 24mm 1.4 good enough to demand such a high price on eBay? Also, is there any way to get an image enlargement while focusing with non-electronic lenses like the FDs.
actually explain the AF settings in the final video as it's the main clutch about the GH5, also compare the low light AF vs the a7sii. also what are the use cases of 10bit and the 4:2:2 encoding
Well, this may get me to keep my GX8, as they're similar. I've been a little yearning for an APS-c but even the XT-2 doesn't grab me enough to do so. Maybe an EOS-M6? You guys reviewed the M5. I like simplicity and am not a pro (any more). I still like quality and only do a bit of personal video.
Tony I bought a Nikon D500 last year which I would like to use for video as well as stills. I realise it is not designed to be as accomplished at vid as the GH 5 and I am wondering if I have bought into the wrong system
Tim Rogers D500 was built for a different purpose entirely, it is a stills images speed demon, but with a very basic festure list as a video camera vs gh5 or a6500 or 80D. (think like a "Ferrari doesn't do well in snow" LOL) although the 4k bit rate is quite good and it has a Mic and headphone jacks. but no focus peeking, no zebra, video AF is very old and no log profiles. so again d500 is arguably the best aps-c in stills performance, but in video; it's towards the end of the pack feature wise. ... now if only Nikon brings out a camera with their "quad pixel" on sensor PDAF patent they had awhile back they would kill'em all...>_
Hello, Many people have valid questions on the focusing system. But what about the lens quality? The two typical scenarios I have in mind are filming a group of 1-2 people from 10 or 20 ft away, and slightly larger groups at 30-60 ft away... usually in not-so-great lighting conditions (i.e. in a shop). I have compared videos I take with my D7100 with others taken with different video camera and i have yet to find an affordable video camera that gives me sharp images. Would this one be a contender? Or any other suggestions?
My suggestions for your gh5 tests: Dynamic range of the gh5 and how it relates to the real world of the end viewer. My point is that the gh5 or even gh4 already have a higher dynamic range than the monitor or TV the viewer will use 99% of the time. And the web viewing such as youtube and its image degrading compression for example and how dynamic range is affected. Compare the gh5's dynamic range to its exposure latitude, so many shooters forget about the latitude part of the equation imo. It's been my experience in video that many of the shortcomings of DSLR/DSLM dynamic range/latitude, can be greatly overcome by simply shooting in lower contrast settings, and/or manipulating the settings indoors or outdoors with fill light, bounce cards, flags, etc. Check out the making of movies videos and how many world class cinematographers will wait out the weather for softer and lower contrast light...even 35mm film and Arris have their exposure limitations.
I know Gary Vaynerchuk's cameraman, DRock, uses a Sony Alpha camera, and I regularly see focus hunting and drifting on his videos. It seems to just be the way it is with video AF, and is likely something viewers will just get used to and not even notice at some point.
You haven't seen any overheating yet but have you seen any noise performance changes after long record times? This has been a huge issue with the a7rii and gh4 after about 30 minutes of recording in 4k it doesn't overheat but it gets warm and horribly noisy.
Can you review for example focus pulling with manual focus, Im a cinematographer and I saw some videos about problems with this new "mark II" lenses in the GH5. (focus by wire type of lenses). I come from canon lenses and is my first MFT camera. Thanks
Thanks for the review Tony. I would like to see I bit more about the IBIS and In particular a comparison of its effectiveness between different lenses. Also IF the autofocus problems are related to a "processor allocation" issue, whether or not the IBIS makes the autofocus worse or nor (assuming that the IBIS takes up a fair amount of the cameras processing resources.
SINCE IT RECORDS 4:2:2 CAN YOU GUYS DO A CHROMAKEY TEST AND SHOW THE WORK FLOW THAT YOU USE TO EDIT THE FOOTAGE I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT BEING DIFFICULT TO EDIT. THANKS
Hey tony and chelsea, i was thinking about getting the canon 400mm f5.6 prime someday, could you guys maybe make more nature shootouts with some newer lenses? thanks for all :D
hey guys, can you test the GH5 as a classic 'stills' camera? Image quality, low light, focusing, fps, dynamic range etc. Do You recon one could get away with only this camera for both video and stills (portrait, sports etc). Thanks for those smart reviews.
I would like to see what the 4k 60p 10 bit looks like. Can it be pissed further wither larger Mbps of the Atomos. Also anything Anamophic would be great!! Thanks guys you Rock
Love the real world and hands on aspect of your reviews. What are the file sizes like, how they play in PP or FCPX in real time and how the different color profiles look. If you're able to play around with VLog would like to see that too. Cheers!
Thanks! GH4 4k/60 is about 1GB/min. We haven't had any problem playing them back in PP, but we have pretty high-end gear. But it didn't impact our workflow at all.
I have had problems with moiré fringing in videos because of the lack of anti-alias filter. Is this a problem or can it be removed in your favourite editor?
After seeing so much negativity towards focus tracking for video I would really like to see if the camera fares any better maintaining focus for continuous shooting still photos.
I'm interested in seeing photo quality. Not the ISO tests. See if you can get some studio time with chalsea and a light because all reviews give us boring ISO tests when they can give "stunning digital photography." Most people are sold on the video but we would also like to see what the camera can do with stills and with lens recommendation and even a lighting system recommendation that supports strobes ...ttl
Great video! Thanks guys! I would love to see in your review some tests vs the 5D4 with the Dual AF and the GH5's AF. I got my GH5 last week too and trying to decide between that and the 5D4. For the type of video work I do (steadycam, events, weddings, one person mini docs, etc) it would be great to have the great Canon focus and low light but don't I know if I want the big files and the 1.7 crop. I own a fair bit of canon glass and so if I stay with the GH5 then I would have to use the metebones which would make the AF even worse. It would make it about a 1.3 crop so that would be better than 1.7 but it is still a 4/3 sensor. Any thoughts T&C and Justin? Thanks again!
Hi Tony, Crew, Rather than putting a pop filter on that mic, have you tried the Electro-Voice RE-20 or RE-320 mics? They don't suffer from bass boom and have built-in pop filters. Couple them to a Symetrix 528e Voice Processor or Rupert Neve Portico 5015 and you're literally talking Butter Cream audio. If you'd like to try one, I can loan you an RE-320. Can't loan the Portico though. Larry
Hi Tony and Justin, I'm not really a "video user" of my photocamera... but I was asking myself, if one use the camera only for the video part isn't a Panasonic HC-X1000 or something similar a better choice, than a still photocamera like the GH5 ??!?
It's better for some because the form factor and usability are better... but the video quality isn't as good, it's less discreet, more expensive, and doesn't let you change lenses.
In some tests of the GH5 with Sigma 18-35 1.8 (EF mount) + Metabones XL, I've seen some strong vignetting occur on left and right borders of the frame, during panning, if IBIS was turned on... Does this happen to you guys in UHD or full 4K mode? Could this have been fixed somehow in some firmware update? I'd really prefer to buy the Metabones XL version instead of Ultra... :)
Get our best-selling photography book on Amazon 📖 help.tc/s
And get the GH5 on Amazon 📸 help.tc/gh5
This openness and honesty just made me a subscriber.
It was great to seeing Justin in front of the camera giving his opinion on the GH5 You guys are awesome , I always walked away with a new knowledge of something from your videos. Thank you
Things to test GH5 on the photo side:
- Color improvements over GH4
- Dynamic range (better highlight recovery or better shadow recovery?)
- Best color profiles in post-processing. I love Cinelike V.
- Raw sharpness vs. Fuji and Sony
- Lowlight AF
- AF management (thumbstick)
- Slowest handholdable shutter
- Flash sync, Flash capabilities.
- DFD vs Non-DFD lens behavior.
- Wifi control
Tony should consider these crucial parameters in his next GH5 video.
It is a well thought out Listing with minutest detail. Thanks.
Justin! Great 1st time leading the video. Hope we get to see more of you! Tony and Chelsea are among my favorite UA-camrs because of their down to earth personality and humorous content! But it's great to see them bring the camera man from the background to the forefront. I love it!
When you're on movie mode in the dial, there's an icon on the top left of the screen that tells you if you're on move A, S, P, M mode. If you press that icon on the top left of the screen, it's a quicker way to select whether to go A, S, P or M mode in movie vs. going through the menu system.
Gilbert Gatchalian Yeaaaj! Thanks for that!
Gilbert Gatchalian Have to check if that is the same on my G85. Hopefully it is.
gilgatchalian Cool, thanks!
I just program the movie modes I want into C1... C2... C3 and you also have main movie dial too... That's four entirely different movie modes on the dial... There's no need to go through the program functions each time you want to change...
FYI - The GH4 has this ability also...
Nice video and always good to hear real world experiences as they are just as valuable as testing. So much is talked about spec and testing these days its always good to hear a users thoughts on how a camera performs. Justin is becoming more natural with every video too. Keep up the great work.
Awesome video. I love that you're putting Justin in front of the camera more! You've got a solid team! I just came from the drone video. That was brilliant.
I would like to see video where you pull focus using the touchscreen and also the built-in feature that allows you to define focus points ahead of time and then run through the sequence.
Tony and Justin can you compare the color between the GH5 and the older GH4? Thanks!
Also can you shoot things with a lot of yellow? To me the GH4 had a little too much yellow bias to it.
Justin is so much better in front of the camera, good job sir!
Great early review guys, can't wait to see the full one! Since the 6K photo mode was marketed quite heavily I'd love to see a comparison of the 6K photo mode quality and flexibility to regular photos. I know it uses HVEC (h.265) which hold detail much better than h.264 but I would guess it be be worse than shooting a JPEG and much worse than RAW. I pull stills from 4K often and know I can get some good results video if I had everything perfect but the files are not very flexible in post and fall apart quickly. THANKS GUYS!
+Max Yuryev is here! Thanks for stopping by! And thanks for all the work you did on your own GH5 reviews.
Everyone benefits from 4k - it forces the bandwidth up and generates a sharper looking image on 1080p displays.
Exactly. UA-cam has such a low bitrate for 1080p so downscaling 4K is the only way to get decent video quality. Even on my 24" 1080p display it's a very noticeable improvement.
The GH5 4k60p footage looks stunning on my 1080p display. It's not just the YT compression (then you could just upscale 1080p to 4k to workaround that), I think straight out of camera it looks sharper and even when selecting 1080p in YT native 4k footage tends to look sharper. I guess it is because most cameras have quite a soft output at 1080p.
Ty4ons there is a noticeable difference in quality toggling between resolutions, and upscaling is common practice.
Edward Brown Oh, I know. My point is native 1080p in most cameras is quite soft so the boost in sharpness you get from 4k is still noticable at 1080p.
Nice solid early review. Looks like there is a lot to like about the GH5. Good work Justin and Tony.
First off, this video is awesome! Justin and Tony, the conversation between the two of you all was about the features and functions of the GH5 was wonderful. Secondly, Sony really needs to get it together with the battery life of their cameras. Many professionals and serious video enthusiasts will not take Sony cameras seriously because of the poor battery life. Thirdly, Tony.....I really believe that you are at your best at these in-dept techie videos, which I love so much. Keep'em coming man! Lastly, I still remain dedicated to still photos as oppose to video shooting, but I do enjoy the video aspects of your channel. Then channel if very informative and entertaining, except the 'chit chat' segments.
These guys are v v cool 😎
Great one guys! Have you compared the autofocus of the GH5 vs the G85? Curious if you feel the G85 has improved over he G4 in that department but maybe not as good as the GH5 or maybe even equal too.
Great job. Beautiful machine. Can you have a quick look at HFR under flickering lights. Live view seems to not work unless actually recording.
Hi, I am interested in its dynamic range capability with V-log L, and how it compares to S-log 2/3. Thanks.
OK!
I'd really like to see how much you can push the still raw files. Basically would this make a good light weight travel camera with the added bonus of being a great video camera?
I noticed it drifts out of focus when the background is considerably brighter than the subject. Even if there is less contrast on the background as compared to subject. Not sure if it is a thing, but something I have noticed.
Am very interested in the 18 megapixel stills pulled from the video on the 4/3rds sensor as compared to the 8 megapixel stills pulled from the Canon 5D Mark IV on the full frame sensor,,,,am primarily a stills shooter but someday wonder if especially for sports and wildlife and events might be shooting video and pulling stills from it....
I would like to see a lot of stills coverage as well as video as I may get this instead of the new EM1 for stills
I want to see IBIS AF performance walking around interviewing someone indoors, outdoors, thank you.
The GH5 is an awesome incredibly solid production camera. There seems to be a lot of whining about autofocus out there without really targeting what is really spectacular about this camera. I have a bunch of interview/profile/story videos to do with my yoga students and filmed the first one yesterday. I am doing it alone with 2 cameras so i don't have time to turn the camera on and off without distracting the person who is being interviewed so I just let it run. Yesterday it was over an hour straight. I was filming in C4k 24fps with a 12-35 2.8 OIS Panasonic lens as my main camera and I had a Fuji XT2 as a second angle in BW. There was not a hiccup with the GH5. All natural light with a wired lav. The Fuji cut out after 10min and I was too distracted to turn it back on again. When I got to look at the footage I was so impressed, with the color, with the clarity and overall quality of the image. I was so upset with the FUJI that I will certainly trade it and the lenses i have and get a 2nd GH5. I know this camera will not let me down. I don't have to worry about overheating or record time limits and can just focus on my subject and get a great interview. I think Sony gets a free ride on the REAL LIFE production capabilities and ease of use for someone in my situation who has to go it alone. BTW, I was in manual focus mode.
In-body image stabilization will use batteries faster than the GH4 as well. Not an issue, just something to realize.
Assuming Chelsea/Madelyn can’t work the studio stuff I would prefer it just left to record with no cuts and both of you in front of the camera (preferably mix in the footage after but optional). It is quite an odd format for a conversation and I never really wanted such a good look up your nose!
well said
so then don't look ...
That would mean not watching the video, and I really like his videos. It is just one of those times that I would prefer something simpler. As I said, I would prefer, I didn’t say if it happened again I would dislike and unsubscribe. I think most people like honest feedback!
ben luz do you feel kind of offended so you had to post such reaction to a constructive feedback by Bowie Sensei? Then stop looking at the comments.. (the same "logic" applied)
To be able to change the mode dial to be a movie only dial if needed would be brilliant. Untile then, just like in the GH4, I use the 3 available ,,C,, positions all customised for video mode, and it mostly eliminates that problem for me. But still a switchable functions dial would be nicer.
😋I noticed that the auto focus is not working when you are in the video M mode. Please tell me that I have the wrong setting.
I regularly shoot meetings using Panasonic cameras of various kinds - mainly G7 and GX80s - which often involve shooting for seven or eight hours at a time. I have never EVER suffered any overheating problems, whatever the ambient temperature.
having just shot a full 2 hour stage presentation with the GH5, I can attest that there is no overheating problems.
How about including working to add features to the "my menu" and function keys to allow one to get around the problems of the menu being locked during shooting?
Nice video guys. FYI when you're in M-video mode and want to quickly access PSA video modes just touch the red box with the M in upper left of the screen.
autofocus success always depends on the 2 adjustmet settings set properly for the conditions and type of shooting.
For review, dynamic range test (and maybe comparison with Sony/Fuji !!). The rest you have already mentioned, and is well known right now. Thanks!
Thanks for this. Nice to see Justin talk about his real world use of this camera, especially the AF. I believe the concerns with the continuous AF are ridiculous. As you said, no camera is perfect and even the Sony cameras have occasional issues. I have done, and continue to do, testing of my GH5 continuous AF with the 12-35 V2 and have found AF not to be an issue for what I will use it for. Of course, the overall features of this amazing camera speak for themselves.
Looking forward to your full review.
Justin video! I wouldn't say the focus is a dslr vs mirrorless thing. The Sony is pretty damn good and pretty accurate. Canons dual pixel af is king. But the Panasonic so far just isn't good. Yet I hope. But the video options for this price is insane.
Eric Rossi very well said sir. In my experience so far, professionally and yes professionals DO use these cameras for those who think they don't, the AF is quite unreliable. For UA-cam videos it works ok, still though it IS unreliable right out of the box. But as far as operability, it is lightyears above anything else in its price class. I will say it does feel like a GH3 in the sense that it's features overall aren't as mindblowing or 'ahead' of its time at being the first like the GH4 was, but so far I'm enjoying my time with it. Is it better than the A6500 which I own, or the GH4 itself.... it depends on your use for it.... if you strictly want the best autofocus then you might want to look at the canons and Sonys at this current time, but if you want a camera you really don't have to worry about and is gonna get the job done everytime... the GH5 is def THE camera to consider at this price range.
As you seem to have access to the OM-D E-M1 Mark II comparing the stabilising systems, hand-held, and rolling shutter would be one of the real useful tests, given that on both are, supposedly, E-M1 II's strong points.
I got a little over 2 hours recording a ceremony in UHDp60. The camera was warm to the touch, but nothing near what I would call hot.
Thumbs up. As someone who is purchasing the gh5 for video, the auto focus controversy is moot for me, as I will be shooting in manual mode 100% of time. I will mate my gh5 with the metabones booster and decades old prime Nikkors. I was weaned decades ago on pure manual focus and am quite comfortable with it. I have learned to think ahead, preset focus, set hyper focal distance, preset aperture stopped down, etc. For shooting wide apertures for blurred/bokeh background, I obviously have to be more precise. But my research says that the lcd and evf on the gh5 are absolutely superb, along with focus peaking. As for follow focusing with wide f/stop/aperture, it helps to practice a lot and have a well smooth and well damped focus ring. I mean, world class cinematographers have been doing it manually for a hundred years. Man up and be your own focus puller!:) I even have a diy method of setting physical focus stops on manual lenses...a little masking tape and small metal pins. But with the great articulating lcd on the gh5, it may be quicker and easier to simply mark the focusing stops and ranges with a pen for visual reference.
very good job, like always..
i have the I2, can't wait for your review...so take your time!
mark
can we see some low light footage/performance and some low aperture auto focus tests on a few different lenses, thanks!
also do you have a metabones speedbooster or aperture dec lensregain? would love to see the bokeh on the video with those on the gh5
finally got the solution for autofocus drift...i watch and learn from youtuber > the art of photographer
Would love to see you try out the new focus transition feature in a real world environment (preset 3 focus marks and rack between them). Also showing if the waveform monitor makes it easier to expose for v-log.
9:45 - hey, hey, don't be bashing the EM1ii. Intuition is relative to the user and what they are used to. Anything new isn't intuitive. I've been using the EM1ii for about 2 weeks now and I do find it intuitive!!!
Hi Tony and Chelsea. I'd like to see how well the GH4 and GH5 footage can be matched in post. Thanks a bunch!
As always good reviews and your knowledge is always high
Things to review: AF versus EM1M2 in stills and video & AF with speedbooster and APSC lenses
Its weird I got a EM1M2 last month and have mostly done stills with it and love the camera. I noticed my viewing of camera review videos has gone down a lot (and I have so much more free time!!!) but really curious as to how speedboosters work with the GH5 and EM1M2. Most of the videos I have seen have been people who just use manual focus and I would like to see some real world experience and see how good the autofocus is with a speedbooster - great, terrible, alright for walking around, etc. I would really like to know. THX
Way to go Justin. Your a natural 😊
It would be nice to have a specific review of the gh5 for stills also. There is almost none in youtube and it would be wonderful if you could fill the gap.
Will you guys (Justin) be doing like a "Stunning Videography" book?
hey please test the image sharpness on the same lens with different bodies add a metabones adapter to the test too for DOF/FOV vs crop / full sensors too ? im sure u will do the rest on your own ^^
I would like to see some portraits of Chelsea with the Panasonic Leica DG Noticron 42.5mm F1.2 ASPH OIS.
+1 for more Justin videos!!! :D
Awesome info guys, keep the great work.
Thanks so much! I'd like to see the lens that go with it.
If you're a one man group and the autofocus isn't great is there an app for the GH5 you can use on your phone to set up shots from a distance? Say you want to do a full body talking shot.
Are you able to control where it focuses, exposure, iso, etc?
Christopher Pack yes there is an app that gives you complete control over that. You can even manually focus with focus peaking from your phone remotely.
Any troubles with the codec being recognized in your PP editing software? Tips/ workarounds, if so.
+ThereGoesSpider no, it works just fine.
I know you guys say this is exclusively a video camera for you but I would honestly like to see your thoughts regarding it's 20 megapixel sensor being used for 6k photo and raw stills overall. Also potentially to see how it may stack up as a sports camera with its burst rate. Thank guys.
In movie mode, on the screen just click the top left icon for A P S M modes. Touch screen has a LOT of usage compared to other cameras. This is a huge advantage over other brands :)
Good point, though I'd still rather use the mechanical mode dial.
Is it really accurate to say that mirrorless autofocus will never be as good as DSLRs? For example, is the Dual Pixel AF in the EOS M5 substantially worse than in the 80D? Casey Neistat has switched from the 80D to a6500 and I haven't noticed the AF to be noticeable poorer.
Robert Kwolek As a former owner of an a6000, I have never had a problem with Sony's autofocus system. I actually thought it was awesome. I wish the Panasonics were as as good in that department.
The Sony A6500s continous autofocus is better than in every DSLR in my opinion. Maybe the one in the 1Dx II is better. :D
Yo Casey Neistat just got the GH5. Too many problems with Sony cams
Daniel Gregersen where did you see that at?
The 5 dollar film maker Casey is using the GH5. Look at his latest vids, in the description it tells you what his newest camera is. He went from the Sony a6500 to the RX100 Mark V, and now to the GH5.
Can we get a GH5 vs A6500 video heads up? Especially talking about the color science between the two, which is an underrated topic for some reason?
Thank you for this review. I keep my fingers crossed for a review of the Olympus E-M1 II. :)
The lens adapters having issues. a lot of people having problems using them. do you think the update would fix those issues? thanks!!!
Yeah, firmware updates can definitely fix them... and I've asked both Metabones & Panasonic but neither have replied. I'm assuming one or the other will fix the problems, though.
is it me or the sample videos of this GH5 are incredible sharp and smooth (60fps
Excellent introduction. What would I like to know? I'd like to know the inside scoop on when Metabones will be fixing the incompatibility issue between the 0.64 Ef to MFT speed booster adapter and Canon/Sigma EF glass.
Also, what you might consider to be the best FD lenses. Is the 24mm 1.4 good enough to demand such a high price on eBay?
Also, is there any way to get an image enlargement while focusing with non-electronic lenses like the FDs.
when will the full review/tutorial be coming on your channel ? thanks
actually explain the AF settings in the final video as it's the main clutch about the GH5, also compare the low light AF vs the a7sii. also what are the use cases of 10bit and the 4:2:2 encoding
I'd actually like to see a solid review of stills performance.
Well, this may get me to keep my GX8, as they're similar.
I've been a little yearning for an APS-c but even the XT-2 doesn't grab me enough to do so.
Maybe an EOS-M6? You guys reviewed the M5.
I like simplicity and am not a pro (any more). I still like quality and only do a bit of personal video.
Tony I bought a Nikon D500 last year which I would like to use for video as well as stills. I realise it is not designed to be as accomplished at vid as the GH 5 and I am wondering if I have bought into the wrong system
Tim Rogers D500 was built for a different purpose entirely, it is a stills images speed demon, but with a very basic festure list as a video camera vs gh5 or a6500 or 80D. (think like a "Ferrari doesn't do well in snow" LOL) although the 4k bit rate is quite good and it has a Mic and headphone jacks. but no focus peeking, no zebra, video AF is very old and no log profiles. so again d500 is arguably the best aps-c in stills performance, but in video; it's towards the end of the pack feature wise.
... now if only Nikon brings out a camera with their "quad pixel" on sensor PDAF patent they had awhile back they would kill'em all...>_
Check our review of the D500. The GH5 is vastly better for video, but the D500 is better for stills (especially sports & wildlife)
Tony & Chelsea Northrup Thanks. So what would you consider to be the best all round camera for Video and Stills?
Audio? I noticed "audio limiter" flashed up briefly? How is the XLR attachment?
Do you have a video on the show gun? Sounds like an interesting accessory!
Hello, Many people have valid questions on the focusing system. But what about the lens quality? The two typical scenarios I have in mind are filming a group of 1-2 people from 10 or 20 ft away, and slightly larger groups at 30-60 ft away... usually in not-so-great lighting conditions (i.e. in a shop). I have compared videos I take with my D7100 with others taken with different video camera and i have yet to find an affordable video camera that gives me sharp images. Would this one be a contender? Or any other suggestions?
My suggestions for your gh5 tests: Dynamic range of the gh5 and how it relates to the real world of the end viewer. My point is that the gh5 or even gh4 already have a higher dynamic range than the monitor or TV the viewer will use 99% of the time. And the web viewing such as youtube and its image degrading compression for example and how dynamic range is affected. Compare the gh5's dynamic range to its exposure latitude, so many shooters forget about the latitude part of the equation imo. It's been my experience in video that many of the shortcomings of DSLR/DSLM dynamic range/latitude, can be greatly overcome by simply shooting in lower contrast settings, and/or manipulating the settings indoors or outdoors with fill light, bounce cards, flags, etc. Check out the making of movies videos and how many world class cinematographers will wait out the weather for softer and lower contrast light...even 35mm film and Arris have their exposure limitations.
I know Gary Vaynerchuk's cameraman, DRock, uses a Sony Alpha camera, and I regularly see focus hunting and drifting on his videos. It seems to just be the way it is with video AF, and is likely something viewers will just get used to and not even notice at some point.
You haven't seen any overheating yet but have you seen any noise performance changes after long record times? This has been a huge issue with the a7rii and gh4 after about 30 minutes of recording in 4k it doesn't overheat but it gets warm and horribly noisy.
Can you review for example focus pulling with manual focus, Im a cinematographer and I saw some videos about problems with this new "mark II" lenses in the GH5. (focus by wire type of lenses). I come from canon lenses and is my first MFT camera. Thanks
my main test I want to see is Gimbal work with Autofocus and Manual Focus. with lumix lenses and the sigma 18-35mm.
Thx guys
Thanks for the review Tony. I would like to see I bit more about the IBIS and In particular a comparison of its effectiveness between different lenses. Also IF the autofocus problems are related to a "processor allocation" issue, whether or not the IBIS makes the autofocus worse or nor (assuming that the IBIS takes up a fair amount of the cameras processing resources.
SINCE IT RECORDS 4:2:2 CAN YOU GUYS DO A CHROMAKEY TEST AND SHOW THE WORK FLOW THAT YOU USE TO EDIT THE FOOTAGE I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT BEING DIFFICULT TO EDIT. THANKS
Are there any advantages to shooting in 60fps if you intend to render it real time 24p?
could you post a few sample vids and pics on your website, so we can see the true quality?
Hey tony and chelsea, i was thinking about getting the canon 400mm f5.6 prime someday, could you guys maybe make more nature shootouts with some newer lenses? thanks for all :D
hey guys, can you test the GH5 as a classic 'stills' camera? Image quality, low light, focusing, fps, dynamic range etc. Do You recon one could get away with only this camera for both video and stills (portrait, sports etc). Thanks for those smart reviews.
I would like to see what the 4k 60p 10 bit looks like. Can it be pissed further wither larger Mbps of the Atomos. Also anything Anamophic would be great!!
Thanks guys you Rock
can you please review on photo shoot as well? i know gh5 is meant for video shoot but wonder how the still photos look like too! thank you :)
How is the rolling shutter when panning.. Any of that annoying judder?
Love the real world and hands on aspect of your reviews.
What are the file sizes like, how they play in PP or FCPX in real time and how the different color profiles look. If you're able to play around with VLog would like to see that too. Cheers!
Thanks! GH4 4k/60 is about 1GB/min. We haven't had any problem playing them back in PP, but we have pretty high-end gear. But it didn't impact our workflow at all.
how much of the gear that you guys review do you actually own and keep? I'd love to see a video showing where you store all the gear you have!
A pop up filter to the mic would be pleased. Good video.
Tony what is your thoughts on the firmware upgrade promise that it will fix the af issue?
I have had problems with moiré fringing in videos because of the lack of anti-alias filter. Is this a problem or can it be removed in your favourite editor?
Direct side by side gh4 vs gh5 4k quality test (and HD) would be good, and not just in low light, but it ideal light scenarios. Thanks!
Would you recommend to switching from a canon 70/80d as a hybrid photo/video camera?
+Jason Chavez check Sdp.io/whichcamera
After seeing so much negativity towards focus tracking for video I would really like to see if the camera fares any better maintaining focus for continuous shooting still photos.
+Blair Altman it had been fantastic four stills.
I'm interested in seeing photo quality. Not the ISO tests. See if you can get some studio time with chalsea and a light because all reviews give us boring ISO tests when they can give "stunning digital photography." Most people are sold on the video but we would also like to see what the camera can do with stills and with lens recommendation and even a lighting system recommendation that supports strobes ...ttl
Great video! Thanks guys! I would love to see in your review some tests vs the 5D4 with the Dual AF and the GH5's AF. I got my GH5 last week too and trying to decide between that and the 5D4. For the type of video work I do (steadycam, events, weddings, one person mini docs, etc) it would be great to have the great Canon focus and low light but don't I know if I want the big files and the 1.7 crop. I own a fair bit of canon glass and so if I stay with the GH5 then I would have to use the metebones which would make the AF even worse. It would make it about a 1.3 crop so that would be better than 1.7 but it is still a 4/3 sensor. Any thoughts T&C and Justin? Thanks again!
Hi Tony, Crew,
Rather than putting a pop filter on that mic, have you tried the Electro-Voice RE-20 or RE-320 mics?
They don't suffer from bass boom and have built-in pop filters. Couple them to a Symetrix 528e Voice Processor or Rupert Neve Portico 5015 and you're literally talking Butter Cream audio. If you'd like to try one, I can loan you an RE-320. Can't loan the Portico though.
Larry
with the mic stands, the woonk sound when putting something on the desk is eliminated.
Hi Tony and Justin, I'm not really a "video user" of my photocamera... but I was asking myself, if one use the camera only for the video part isn't a Panasonic HC-X1000 or something similar a better choice, than a still photocamera like the GH5 ??!?
It's better for some because the form factor and usability are better... but the video quality isn't as good, it's less discreet, more expensive, and doesn't let you change lenses.
Thanks for the answer Tony!
In some tests of the GH5 with Sigma 18-35 1.8 (EF mount) + Metabones XL, I've seen some strong vignetting occur on left and right borders of the frame, during panning, if IBIS was turned on... Does this happen to you guys in UHD or full 4K mode? Could this have been fixed somehow in some firmware update? I'd really prefer to buy the Metabones XL version instead of Ultra... :)