bro.. you are my hero right now, as you said, this is a game changer, for me its really difficult to buy tools like a grinder and stuff, with this stuff i dont need all those tools, only this clay, some water, a brush and a box cutter, hands down my man, greetings from The Netherlands
Just spotted this foam clay and your mask has made me decide in purchasing some. it is brilliant, your videos are the best on UA-cam Well done and keep safe x
Ah, never thought of freezing the moulds. Will try that as my last attempt was a disaster. In the UK we have a different product, but it does the same job.
Good to know that stuff like this exists, thanks for keeping us in the loop :) If you think about it, now foam work and 3D printing can get directly connected if you want to. Print the mold, push the foam clay in and you are set. Ever thought about a collab with people like 3D Printing Nerd or Makers Muse? Could be a great way to connect two maker branches and especially MM is very knowledgable in the field, but 3DPN is probably not far behind ^^ Could also mean a bit more exposure for you.
thanks for steering me towards TNT, they have just about everything I will be needing for my special effects and costumes for my movies and videos... awesome...
I've heard from puppet builders that Model Magic crumbles apart after some time. Many noses have fallen apart so they don't use it anymore. So this would be great for noses.
Looks like great stuff to work with! Seeing your mask inspires me to try out a version of Skeletor i've been wanting to make! This may be the technique i've been looking for! Thanks Ted!
Thanks for the video, Ted! I recently acquired some of this (and will be soon buying LOTS more), and your video really helps a lot, to understand what it is and how it works. I'll be using it on so many projects, Idk if I can even count them all up, lol!
Thank you for looking at model magic! I've been trying to find examples of its uses when dried. Model magic does not seem to be great for professional projects.
It's so hard to get these kind of products in my country, you can't even get pasti-dip. But I think I found something similar to this at a local chinese store, of all places. It is sold as children's air-dry clay/toy (I've found it in the toys section and at the art supplies section) and from the little tests I've made with it, it seems to compare: dries fast and SUPER light, sticks to itself, after dry feels like eva foam, you can paint and sand it. It is flexible and picks up details in molds (I tested with a cameo mold, so really tiny details). I just observed that if the objects is too thin and you do bend it forcefully, it does break I don't know if that happens with the braind of foam you've worked with. And it comes in a myriad of colors, apparently you can even mix your own by mixing colors, that I have not tested because all the ones I bought were gray. I've bought a few bags to try out since a cosplay I want to make has detailed shoulder pads and I'll see how it really performs. Best part is, I bought it for 0.95€ for a 60gr. bag so if it does work, it will be amazing.
Foam clay takes quite awhile to dry, at least 24 hours in my experience. It's extremely flexible but it does have a breaking point. You really have to tear at though. It sounds like you have a model magic clone.
@@CosplayApprentice Portugal. The problem with my country is that Customs is very tight and usually shipping is insane when buying online, at time the shipping is more expensive than the product itself *shrug* So when we see this amazing tutorials by makers or cosplayers from other countries, they use products we can't so readily find. It's a fight to find local alternatives. Besides, the cosplay community is still sort of fledgling, not that much popular, still a bit misunderstood and you don't see much of builds like large props and armors, most people go for costuming instead of building.
@@itsagundam79 Oh quite probably it is, after all it's a Chinese product. I just think, that used in parts that do not require much stressing and not used thinly - if that makes sense - it's an alternative. I could probably build a mask just as Ted did, but I'd probably not put much faith in making the teeth using the product I have at hand, it'd probably break with a couple of hard nudges. I have only made minor tests with it (thus why I said it dries extra fast, my test was a small and relatively thin chunk). Soon enough I'll know if it is really usefull, I'll be using it for some sculpting on some shoulder pauldrons. Right now, it's the only thing I have easy access to *shrug*
@@GPhoenix08 Temos o mesmo problema aqui no Brasil, e ainda temos a demora da alfandega e taxas extras de produtos importados... Por vezes o produto chega no país e fica parado meses na alfandega ;_;
I tried making a stopmotion puppet out of Model Magic a few years back. It was really brittle on the outside and would crack. The inside stayed gooey. Model Magic would work well for decoration pieces that dont get handled often. Will try that Foam Mo and see if that makes better puppets. Thank you for the review video TED!
Unfortunately that method does not work. The nice thing is that you can sculpt in a lot of those details before it dries instead. :) Also, you can use a wood burning tool to burn in details though. Great question!
@@CosplayApprentice How can I make it sturdier for a full fledged mask? I'm trying to sculpt a zombie like mask and it always ends up cracking, or is too tearable.
@@mattgranberg5639 I'm not sure how full if a mask you are talking. And are you wanting it to be sturdy like a harder surface sturdy or just more flexible sturdy? A great way to seal it off is once the outer surface is dried you just plastidip the whole thing and that will stop the are from getting to it and it will stop the full drying process. I hope I answered your question, if not let me know more of what you are trying to do and I am happy to help answer any more questions you have:)
@@CosplayApprentice Thank you! I'm talking about a whisperer mask from the walking dead tv show if you know what I'm talking about. I'm doing beta and I've sculpted several by now and they've all cracked or torn, I haven't tried plastidip yet for some reason, but I'll be sure to.
so im curious, would this be good to use for making seams disappear, been something ive noticed, that i haven seen any online prop makers try to use it for this type of application.
I can see this being perfect for making small details on a gun or helmet but i dont know if its cost effective for bigger pieces like pauldrons or leg armor. Great video nonetheless,sir!
For things like fingers or spiks on figures how well dose it stay and is there a like a glue I can use for like say im making a figure with thin horns or spiks on the head is there a way to make them not fall of ?
Awesome review, thanks for sharing!!! I want to try this stuff now but got a couple questions, what's the consistency of it once it fully-cures, is it stiffer than EVA or a just as spongy & flexible? Also, once it fully-cures, can you reheat and re-work it again or is it a done-deal once it fully-cures? Thanks again!!
I have made AMAZING sculptures out of Model Magic. I don’t bend them. The stuff is not cured the next day or for even in a week. It takes some time for Model Magic to fully harden. When it does, it’s AMAZING! If you saw the stuff I sculpt with it, you would see that it’s great.
I'm confused, it seems like magic. Did you stick the foam-mo onto the eva foam without any type of glue/adhesive? It can just stick onto things on its' own? :O
Where else can I get the foam-mo? It's unavailable on your link and I can't find it from any other sellers on Amazon or Google. No luck with the C-4 clay, either.
I’d love to get some, but after googling for quite some time it looks like the only place to get some is through Amazon and they are out of stock and don’t seem to be planning to order more! Who makes this stuff? I’m willing to go straight to the source!
Thanks Evil Ted. Reakky helpful video and I like what you made with it. How long did you find the clay was pliable for once you started working with it?
I was actually looking at this, Bentley (Smooth on suppler in U.K. ) just stocked this last month - but it’s extremely expensive for the amount they give you .
@@EvilTedSmith ok ill just subscribe so long and wait until uploaded and thanks for the tips im not a big foam cosplay maker i just make them as prop and use them for special effects whenever i get stuck igo to your channel first
Great video! Here in Brazil we have one type of foam clay too, in the frist days the clay is wonderful, but in one week it starts to crack, like the Model Magic. In the Foam-mo does this also happen? Or does the quality continue even after a long time?
does anyone know how different brands of foam clay compare to one another? I have some black magic brand foam clay and I'm not super happy with it and I'm wondering if another brand might be better.
It can work as a large gap filler but does not feather perfectly. I think Evil Ted said if you need to use for large gaps then you might want to consider remaking the piece! =P
This is fantastic Ted, thank you! What is the overall working time of the foam clay? Does it try quickly or would you say there is plenty of time to work with it?
Thanks Evil Ted! The biggest gap is about 1mm wide, I was quite pleased as it was my first ever foam smithing attempt! The rest are just uneven. Thanks for the advice, and the channel, it is fantastic for first timers like me!!
Does anyone know if this stuff is resistant to water after it dries? I’ll be using this for costume mask that needs washing(faux fur) and being able to wash the entire thing without worrying about any specific parts
I tried getting ahold of some for free so I could do a video on it, but the guy selling it never messaged me back. I’m just gonna wait until I have some extra cash to get it, your review was very helpful though.
hi Ted fan of ur work I have a problem trying to get some of that stuff to deal the foam I believe it's called creature cast I can't seem to find the right site can u point me in the direction
@@EvilTedSmith lol id have to get the stuff first but my thought is if it was mixed together maybe parts would be flexible and parts would break or peel🤔
unfortunately the foam clay will lose its flexibility after like a week or two. and itll crack if you redo those stress tests. do you have an update on the tests you did?
bro.. you are my hero right now, as you said, this is a game changer, for me its really difficult to buy tools like a grinder and stuff, with this stuff i dont need all those tools, only this clay, some water, a brush and a box cutter, hands down my man, greetings from The Netherlands
Hello Netherlands. The foam clay is great for adding detail work on your foam costumes.
Freezing the molds is a DYNAMITE tip. Thank you!!!
You’re Welcome! I felt the same when a friend share that trick.
What an awesome video.
Been meaning to try this stuff out. Thanks Uncle Ted.
You got it buddy!
Just spotted this foam clay and your mask has made me decide in purchasing some. it is brilliant, your videos are the best on UA-cam
Well done and keep safe x
Awesome! Thank you!
Ah, never thought of freezing the moulds. Will try that as my last attempt was a disaster. In the UK we have a different product, but it does the same job.
I learned that trick from someone, but can't remember who?
Exceptional review. Clear sound and video. Really helpful information.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was just about to buy a bucket of model magic, thank goodness I found this video beforehand
That dragon head was so cool! Your videos inspired me to start crafting, you made it look so easy! Thank you and keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
Wow! That’s some awesome sculpting and shaping!
Thanks.
Good to know that stuff like this exists, thanks for keeping us in the loop :)
If you think about it, now foam work and 3D printing can get directly connected if you want to. Print the mold, push the foam clay in and you are set. Ever thought about a collab with people like 3D Printing Nerd or Makers Muse? Could be a great way to connect two maker branches and especially MM is very knowledgable in the field, but 3DPN is probably not far behind ^^ Could also mean a bit more exposure for you.
thanks for steering me towards TNT, they have just about everything I will be needing for my special effects and costumes for my movies and videos... awesome...
Happy to help.
Thanks ted for the great informative review on both products
My pleasure!
Dude this is awesome stuff man!! Can't wait for mine to come in
Hope you enjoy it!
You are a legend, this is perfect for so many different things Ive been thinking about making
Happy to help.
Fantastic demonstation. good tests.
Thank you.
I've heard from puppet builders that Model Magic crumbles apart after some time. Many noses have fallen apart so they don't use it anymore. So this would be great for noses.
I just found a new medium I have to check out. Thanks Ted you rock!!!!!!!
You'll love this stuff!
WOW really great Camera work! This is a very well made video ted Great Job
Thank you.
Looks like great stuff to work with! Seeing your mask inspires me to try out a version of Skeletor i've been wanting to make! This may be the technique i've been looking for! Thanks Ted!
Making the foam clay mask way my favorite. Really happy how it turned out.
Thank you so much for all the detail in this, this is great!
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
@@EvilTedSmith Honestly it's a pleasure! 😊
Great review and test scenarios Ted. Loves the video.
Thanks for watching.
NICE STUFF!!! I'm definitely adding this to my materials !!
Great stuff.
Thank you so much for sharing this!
You are so welcome!
this was wildy informative, thank you Evil Ted!
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
Thank youuuuuu!!! I’ve been wondering if foam clay is different from model magic. This is so helpful!
Happy to help. Thank you for watching and subscribing.
I was confused about the two...Thanks for sharing.
Glad it helped!
This is going to be perfect for my Nyarlathotep crook and flail. Great video too!
Thanks.
I just got some in yesterday wanted to look up a few videos to get used of it thanks
Thank you!!! I can’t wait to crack open my container foam clay! Thanks for the tips and ideas to work with this stuff!!
You're welcome.
Thank you for another fantastic video and review! Can't wait to buy some of this stuff!!
Thank you for subscribing.
Thank you so much for this Ted, youre right, this definately is a game changer
When I saw my friends in Europe making stuff with Foam clay. WHERE IS IT IN THE US? Now we have it and I dig it.
you are a hero broski, Salutations from japan~
aaa thank you so much for making this video! ive been contemplating over which to use for my cosplay and this answers everything really well~!
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
Thanks for the video, Ted! I recently acquired some of this (and will be soon buying LOTS more), and your video really helps a lot, to understand what it is and how it works. I'll be using it on so many projects, Idk if I can even count them all up, lol!
Thank you for watching & subscribing.
@@EvilTedSmith you're welcome, and thank you for your contributions. 🙂
Thank you for looking at model magic! I've been trying to find examples of its uses when dried. Model magic does not seem to be great for professional projects.
You are so welcome!
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. I’m going to have to try it.
Great! I have the links just below my video.
It's so hard to get these kind of products in my country, you can't even get pasti-dip. But I think I found something similar to this at a local chinese store, of all places. It is sold as children's air-dry clay/toy (I've found it in the toys section and at the art supplies section) and from the little tests I've made with it, it seems to compare: dries fast and SUPER light, sticks to itself, after dry feels like eva foam, you can paint and sand it. It is flexible and picks up details in molds (I tested with a cameo mold, so really tiny details). I just observed that if the objects is too thin and you do bend it forcefully, it does break I don't know if that happens with the braind of foam you've worked with. And it comes in a myriad of colors, apparently you can even mix your own by mixing colors, that I have not tested because all the ones I bought were gray. I've bought a few bags to try out since a cosplay I want to make has detailed shoulder pads and I'll see how it really performs. Best part is, I bought it for 0.95€ for a 60gr. bag so if it does work, it will be amazing.
Foam clay takes quite awhile to dry, at least 24 hours in my experience. It's extremely flexible but it does have a breaking point. You really have to tear at though. It sounds like you have a model magic clone.
What country are you in?
@@CosplayApprentice Portugal. The problem with my country is that Customs is very tight and usually shipping is insane when buying online, at time the shipping is more expensive than the product itself *shrug* So when we see this amazing tutorials by makers or cosplayers from other countries, they use products we can't so readily find. It's a fight to find local alternatives. Besides, the cosplay community is still sort of fledgling, not that much popular, still a bit misunderstood and you don't see much of builds like large props and armors, most people go for costuming instead of building.
@@itsagundam79 Oh quite probably it is, after all it's a Chinese product. I just think, that used in parts that do not require much stressing and not used thinly - if that makes sense - it's an alternative. I could probably build a mask just as Ted did, but I'd probably not put much faith in making the teeth using the product I have at hand, it'd probably break with a couple of hard nudges. I have only made minor tests with it (thus why I said it dries extra fast, my test was a small and relatively thin chunk). Soon enough I'll know if it is really usefull, I'll be using it for some sculpting on some shoulder pauldrons. Right now, it's the only thing I have easy access to *shrug*
@@GPhoenix08 Temos o mesmo problema aqui no Brasil, e ainda temos a demora da alfandega e taxas extras de produtos importados...
Por vezes o produto chega no país e fica parado meses na alfandega ;_;
Very helpful, thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
I tried making a stopmotion puppet out of Model Magic a few years back. It was really brittle on the outside and would crack. The inside stayed gooey.
Model Magic would work well for decoration pieces that dont get handled often.
Will try that Foam Mo and see if that makes better puppets.
Thank you for the review video TED!
I hope this product works for your needs.
Thanks to sharing this with us
Thanks for watching.
Good you did a video on this I was looking into this a few months ago and wasn't sure of it's applications.
I really like it!
Great video Ted! =D
Thank you so much. Means a lot coming from you two!
Thanks for this video. I need to know what the practical difference was trained two clays.
Glad it was helpful!
Oh yeah this stuff IS a game changer! Gotta get some soon!
Can you heat it up like eva foam and open up any score marks?
Unfortunately that method does not work. The nice thing is that you can sculpt in a lot of those details before it dries instead. :) Also, you can use a wood burning tool to burn in details though. Great question!
Thanks for the tip.
@@CosplayApprentice How can I make it sturdier for a full fledged mask? I'm trying to sculpt a zombie like mask and it always ends up cracking, or is too tearable.
@@mattgranberg5639 I'm not sure how full if a mask you are talking. And are you wanting it to be sturdy like a harder surface sturdy or just more flexible sturdy? A great way to seal it off is once the outer surface is dried you just plastidip the whole thing and that will stop the are from getting to it and it will stop the full drying process. I hope I answered your question, if not let me know more of what you are trying to do and I am happy to help answer any more questions you have:)
@@CosplayApprentice Thank you! I'm talking about a whisperer mask from the walking dead tv show if you know what I'm talking about. I'm doing beta and I've sculpted several by now and they've all cracked or torn, I haven't tried plastidip yet for some reason, but I'll be sure to.
Great vid, I'm in! Ordering some today.
Great be sure to usemy links below the video.
Super cool stuff :)
Yeah I dig it!
Looks like great stuff. With the dragon head , you maybe could have made it a bit longer to cover the join in the foam. The mask looks great.
Awesome video. Just bought some of that foam clay on Amazon, thanks
Yes, I love that stuff.
so im curious, would this be good to use for making seams disappear, been something ive noticed, that i haven seen any online prop makers try to use it for this type of application.
Thanks Ted! I've been wondering if it was worth the purchase. That looks like so much fun to experiment with! Really going to change the cosplay game.
Great stuff.
You mentioned some shrinkage during drying. Does that effect the shape of things it's sculpted onto too much?
Not really.
That’s so cool
nice review ted,
Thank you.
oh man thank you! the answer to my current problem!
How does it act in humidity? Like the sweat under the mask or if it,s rain? It's look really great to work with!
Once it drys, its like EVA foam.
Thank's a lot!
Wow, I’m sold 😳
Me too!
I can see this being perfect for making small details on a gun or helmet but i dont know if its cost effective for bigger pieces like pauldrons or leg armor. Great video nonetheless,sir!
Yes, great for adding detail and smaller parts.
For things like fingers or spiks on figures how well dose it stay and is there a like a glue I can use for like say im making a figure with thin horns or spiks on the head is there a way to make them not fall of ?
Awesome review, thanks for sharing!!! I want to try this stuff now but got a couple questions, what's the consistency of it once it fully-cures, is it stiffer than EVA or a just as spongy & flexible? Also, once it fully-cures, can you reheat and re-work it again or is it a done-deal once it fully-cures? Thanks again!!
thank you very much! isnt that foam clay EVA in wet powder?
No it's a foam clay.
I have made AMAZING sculptures out of Model Magic. I don’t bend them. The stuff is not cured the next day or for even in a week. It takes some time for Model Magic to fully harden. When it does, it’s AMAZING! If you saw the stuff I sculpt with it, you would see that it’s great.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for the video
Thank you for watching.
What would be a good way to strap the mask?
An elastic strap.
OK, I'm sold!!!
Yes, its great stuff. I have links just below the video.
Can form clay do for apply on surfaces of art
Which would you say would be better to use to make the horns on kota's hat from BNHA?
Any foam clay works really well for smaller horns.
I'm confused, it seems like magic. Did you stick the foam-mo onto the eva foam without any type of glue/adhesive? It can just stick onto things on its' own? :O
JustTakeItInStride you can use barge cement glue line normal
Yes. by adding water to the surface of the EVA foam. But I would still seal it before painting it to ensure it stays in place.
Great video thx
Is there white foam -mo clay? Thankyou
Yes there is white foam clay www.michaels.com/modeling-foam-by-artminds/10625195.html
Where else can I get the foam-mo? It's unavailable on your link and I can't find it from any other sellers on Amazon or Google. No luck with the C-4 clay, either.
Yeah the foam clays are selling fast. Just keep just checking in.
Ok, thank you! 😀
Thanks for the video! I was thinking this stuff would be great for push molds and positive greeblies. Any idea how well it stays flexible over time?
I’d love to get some, but after googling for quite some time it looks like the only place to get some is through Amazon and they are out of stock and don’t seem to be planning to order more! Who makes this stuff? I’m willing to go straight to the source!
They are making more...Amazon is out of stock at the moment. Here is the company that makes it.
www.cosplayapprentice.com
We have some coming in the week of Feb 18th - TNT Cosplay Supply
Omg I need this!!!!
Yes you do!
How's the weight once dried? Heavy like clay can be or light like regular foam?
It's exactly like foam im every way when dry except it's exceptionally springy.
Very light like foam.
Thanks Evil Ted. Reakky helpful video and I like what you made with it.
How long did you find the clay was pliable for once you started working with it?
It satys soft for a while for shaping. To add fine detail lines and marks you have about half an hour. The surface starts to dry quickly.
What would you use as a mold release for making masks off of a life cast or Styrofoam head?
Baby powder mixed with liquid ivory dish soap.
Car wax works as a good release.
What about making a helmet mask using the foam clay?
Why, when I could make the helmet out of foam then add detail with foam clay.
I was curious to know if it was possible or wise.
I was actually looking at this, Bentley (Smooth on suppler in U.K. ) just stocked this last month - but it’s extremely expensive for the amount they give you .
Thanks evil!
You're Welcome.
Yo Ted can you actually make a full helmet buy just using foam mo
I'm not sure, I haven't done that.
@@EvilTedSmith ok ill just subscribe so long and wait until uploaded and thanks for the tips im not a big foam cosplay maker i just make them as prop and use them for special effects whenever i get stuck igo to your channel first
I use it on too cosplay I done jawa face and on armor It fantastic stuff
Nice!
Great video!
Here in Brazil we have one type of foam clay too, in the frist days the clay is wonderful, but in one week it starts to crack, like the Model Magic. In the Foam-mo does this also happen? Or does the quality continue even after a long time?
When foam-mo clay drys it's like EVA foam.
Not available on Amazon. Out of stock, don't know when it will be available.
Is there ANY place other than Amazon that has this?
Here you go.sksprops.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/foam-clay
very kool
does anyone know how different brands of foam clay compare to one another? I have some black magic brand foam clay and I'm not super happy with it and I'm wondering if another brand might be better.
I'm not sure. I don't work with foam clay a lot.
How is it at filling seams?
It can work as a large gap filler but does not feather perfectly. I think Evil Ted said if you need to use for large gaps then you might want to consider remaking the piece! =P
You can. Just take a while for it to completely dry before sanding it.
Unfortunately it seems I can’t get Foam-Mo delivered to me in the UK.. any possible ways of getting it here / any good alternatives? :(
www.coscraft.co.uk/crafting/1602-cosclay-300g.html
Poly-Props carries it in the UK
Great video I wanted to know the differences wow foam clay now you need to find a diy to make it lol
This is fantastic Ted, thank you! What is the overall working time of the foam clay? Does it try quickly or would you say there is plenty of time to work with it?
It satys soft for a while for shaping. To add fine detail lines you have about half an hour. The surface starts to dry quickly.
Thanks Ted!!!
Can this stuff be used to smooth out seam lines as well? I guess a bit of water would help it but has anyone used it for seams?
Yes you can. I feel if your seams are that big, I would remake the part.
Thanks Evil Ted! The biggest gap is about 1mm wide, I was quite pleased as it was my first ever foam smithing attempt! The rest are just uneven. Thanks for the advice, and the channel, it is fantastic for first timers like me!!
Does anyone know if this stuff is resistant to water after it dries? I’ll be using this for costume mask that needs washing(faux fur) and being able to wash the entire thing without worrying about any specific parts
I think it dissolves in water so no.
Does foam mo work pretty much the same as the tnt cosplay supply stuff?
Yes, they are very similar.
you are the best
Youre the best for watching and subscribing.
Enyone know where I can get this in the UK ?
Here you go.www.poly-props.com/foamclay
I tried getting ahold of some for free so I could do a video on it, but the guy selling it never messaged me back. I’m just gonna wait until I have some extra cash to get it, your review was very helpful though.
Happy to help.
YAY! Wanted to see this for awhile! Do you have a favorite brand or are they all pretty much the same, Ted? I've used C4 but haven't tried Foam-mo.
Same stuff, different name
Not sure yet. I need to check out other foam clays.
hi Ted fan of ur work I have a problem trying to get some of that stuff to deal the foam I believe it's called creature cast I can't seem to find the right site can u point me in the direction
Creature cast
bit.ly/2bgH0LF
Part of me kind wants to know how something would be if it was made out of foam clay and model magic mixed together
Try in out and let me know what happens.
@@EvilTedSmith lol id have to get the stuff first but my thought is if it was mixed together maybe parts would be flexible and parts would break or peel🤔
unfortunately the foam clay will lose its flexibility after like a week or two. and itll crack if you redo those stress tests. do you have an update on the tests you did?
Yeah I have the same problem. So I seal it with Creature Cast rubber.
@@EvilTedSmith big brain