Dune (part 1) movie review (some spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2021
- Hi everyone, in this video I review the long-awaited Dune movie. Thanks for watching.
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Since filming this Dune part 2 has now been officially greenlit with a release date set for October 2023 🎊🎉🎊
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Well I won’t be going to see it. Awful film.
@@caraveldrawing9867 its a great film.
@@starwarsfan9575 bland acting, empty set prices, colour palate borrowed from Blade Runner 2049. FX at times very dodgy like the lenses had been smeared with Vaseline. Soundtrack sounded like a Si-if soundtrack!! With Just a little Persian mysticism thrown in. Very lazy from Mr Zimmer. Why is Dennis obsessed with muted artificial orange interior light against grey machine shells and skies. Sand worms very underwhelming. No point in the film was I terrified, joyed, thrilled, tearful, overwhelmed, excited, mediative, lost, found, hanging on, angry, sad, compelled, involved etc etc etc. Humongous boring uninteresting and that’s just the cast, but I could use those superlatives for the film as a whole.
@@starwarsfan9575 the part and set up with the gas tooth I almost missed!! Such a great part of the novel and story and Dennis underused it with such subtlety that it almost didn’t take place, blink and you world miss the set up! Blink again 30 mins later and you would miss the Barron’s death.
Makes David Lynch’s film seem like a masterpiece in comparison.
If I remember correctly Lady Jessica is a Bene Gesserit but is not yet a Reverend Mother but still an acolyte. Which means she wouldn't have complete control, maturity, and stoicism like Reverend Mother Helen Mohiam. She doesn't become a 'wild' Reverend Mother until the 2nd half of the book. In the book, she expresses her worries, fears, etc., internally through internal monologue. Thankfully Villeneuve didn't resort to internal monologue so had to show her conflicts externally through emotion. I mean her son may be a messiah because of her birthright, she also encouraged this by teaching him Bene Gesserit practices all without ever telling him. He may die from the Gom Jabbar. Her husband, son, and herself are going into a trap, she knows it, everybody knows it. There's danger all around. It's a new planet, people, culture, etc. She doesn't know what her son is becoming. No Bene Gesserit help for Leto. If she was Darwi Odrade I'd expect more from her but at this point in the story, she's basically just an acolyte.
I thought, given the translation to film, that Jessica's character came over very well. Both her strengths and weaknesses and that right there is a really hard character role to pull off well. I'm not saying she got it spot on but it was certainly a great bit of acting from her! I'm happy with how this role translated from the books given how hard that is to pull this off for this very complex character! I think she will be even better in part 2!
Btw, I gave the movie 10/10 on imdb...
Exactly. I have no idea were Book odyssey thinks she would have been portrayed as some blushing maid. Especially in today's Hollywood. The real concern is having her be the bestest ever, putting Duke Leto in his place, and a Karen. However the film maker written her as a real genuine person. She was strong when she was able, she was vulnerable, she loved, she was afraid, and she was a mother. She also had every thing ripped away from her with in an hour, and put in a position well out of her experience. They made her afraid, and distraught, yet clinging to sanity in order to survive. Teh fact that Paul took the lead when Jessica was out of her depth is welcome. In other words. the film let her be human.
also, Jessica crying is usually when she is alone, or with the reverend mother, from whom she wouldn't be able to hide anything anyways. As soon as there are people around she puts back her 'dispassionate' face on.
Thank you for your thoughtful review. In the Dune novel, Lady Jessica was a Bene Gesserit witch. A highly skilled warrior. Even the male Atreides retainers respected her & even feared her. But in the movie, that strength, resourcefulness & resilience was not conveyed. DV slighted the LJ character & misdirected the extremely talented Rebecca Ferguson.
I loved the movie so much, but I totally agree the most disappointing thing to me was Jessica because she is one of my fav characters too
It’s a hit and miss movie. Some people just praise it as if it were a masterpiece. No it’s not. It has a lot of great elements, scenes, and good actors. But some things in it are just kind of either superficial, or lacking quality consistency. There are many elements in it that will only make sense to people who had read the books. For example when you look at some characters when they are wearing still suits you can tell that they are simply wearing regular black sneakers with a dirty white sole.
There is also that one aspect that really annoys me, and that is that Atreides overall are portrayed as too excessively “honorable” while Harkonnen soldiers are portrayed as nosferatu vampires. It absolutely makes sense to have all of the Harkonnen main characters act they way they do. But their soldiers are almost like the cartoonish orcs.
My favorite part was how Duncan Idaho is first shown with a disheveled beard, and then he is clean shaven. Very refreshing.
I didn’t like how the Fremen look very dissimilar to each other. You’d think that the people who are always struggling to preserve every drop of water then they should at least have a certain consistent body type and skin similar to the people who live in actual deserts on earth. Like the Bedouin’s or Arabic tribesmen who similarly have to resort to every method of water preservation. Maybe at least they should look skinnier and their skin more dry.
Not a criticism, just an observation. You appear to be almost reviewing your own experience of going to see the film in light of your expectations, hopes and fears. Rather than going to see the film and reviewing.....the film. Probably an issue for film reviewers? Anyway, cheers for the review.
Totally agreed with your take on Lady Jessica. Too much crying. Too helpless.
A beautiful interpretation of the novel.
The scenes sacrificed gave room to a deep world full of nuance, detail and intensity. A profound visual and auditory experience on iMax.
As someone who watched the film first then read the books, I loved the portrayal of Jessica in the film. I think they did her really well. She came across as very stoic to me, but without us being able to have her internal monologue I think they absolutely needed to make changes to show the love she had for Leto and Paul. I don't think she cried or overally expressed, if anything I've heard many people say that she came across as quite emotionless. I think it reflected the internal struggle she was going through whilst also representing the self-control Jessica has.
Chani at the end of Part I: "This is just the beginning."
I was very happy with the movie and felt that it was a very faithful adaptation. My only problem was with things that were left out. I hope that we get a slightly longer director's cut that I can watch before seeing part 2.
Ditto. Just enough was left out to make me feel a little hollow -- the David Lynch version covered more in less time, it seems to me. A director's cut would be fantastic.
Honestly I feel like 30 extra minutes is probably more than enough. Just a handful of additional moments. Gurney playing the baliset, Mapes cutting herself with the crysknife, some explanation about how a Suk doctor can't be broken, etc
seeing dune in a virtual cinema in 3D on Quest Pro is pretty darn cool!
Several of her earliest scenes in the book involve her weeping. I think there might be less in the actual movie. We also get at least one scene of her completely shutting down her emotions before she enters a new situation, putting on a blank face. I've not gotten massively far in the book, but the scenes I've had so far have definitely had a lot of Jessica being emotional for completely normal reasons. I don't think her scenes with Reverend Mother include any crying in the film, but they do in the book.
I understand what you’re saying regarding Lady Jessica and I think you’re partly wrong and partly right. They show her multiple times displaying open emotion but then concealing it the second she’s back in a public area. I think as you touched on, without an inner monologue to add context Villeneuve has to show to the audience her feelings so they can still connect with her and understand her motivations.
Also regarding the “sequel”, it’s clear the studio was waiting to see how well Part 1 did before green lighting Part 2, some of this is probably due to the baggage and history of adapting Dune to the big screen but it’s also clear Villeneuve is trying his hardest to ensure the full story is told by literally putting “Part One” in the on screen title which will help force the studio’s hand when the public says “we want to see part two!”.
Absolutely love this movie, can’t wait for Part Two where I think Villeneuve will go all in on every element and both parts absolutely must be viewed on the big screen IMHO. While home theatre’s can get very impressive nothing can match the sheer scale and cinematic experience of seeing these movies for the first time in the actual environment they were designed to be viewed in.
Great review, I’ll keep an eye out for your Part Two review when it’s time 😁👍
Yey waiting for this! I wonder how people who didn't read the book felt about the movie having no Act 3 hahaha. Great vid again!
I really enjoyed the dune movie a lot. I have seen it twice already and of course, I loved the books as well. I find the universe way better than star wars but that's just me ;-). I discovered your channel today and subscribed I enjoyed this video and going to watch more of them🤙🤙🤙
I waiting for your review given your last video on what you were looking for in the new dune movie
Took my teenage boys to Dune. A good feeling to see the next generation experience the story. Cinematography was wonderful. I am glad they did not make Paul look to much of a weakling. Think the character introduction was a little off balance. Maybe 3mins less of Duncan and more time on the mentat’s, Dr Yueh, and the spacing guild. I did find it interesting that when Paul was having his vision in the tent, he mentions things that happen beyond the first book 🤔 Overall I loved it. Maybe someday I will be able to share the experience again with future grandchildren like my grandfather did.
It was definitely a slow developing plot, but that in no way means it was boring.
Jessica loses it every other page in the book. She is constantly scared and yelling "PAUL!"
Bottom line, read the book, more than once, preferably many times. Other than that, we would miss the nuances, there's just way too much to get. I'm preparing to read again, I still feel there's much more there. I agree about Jessica. And I really hope they flesh out Freeman a heck of a lot more.
The literal last line of the film is "this is just the beginning", what more to be continued do you need?
I enjoyed it but there wasn’t enough Harkonnen establishment scenes. I liked the Duncan Idaho but we could had less of him and more Yuey, Piter and the Baron.
Was Thufir Hawat in this movie? For such a major character to be written so small is negligent.....in the novel the "supporting characters" were at times the drivers of the story, they were under filmed for time.....the dinner party ( on of the best sequences in the novel ) was absent....I enjoyed the movie but lamented the details missed for expediency.....
I was so disappointed when they left this out.
Oh, the Galatian girls,
Will do it for pearls,
While the Arakeen will do it for water!
But if you desire dames,
Like consuming flames,
Try a Caladan daughter!
Yep, the only song Gurney sings in the ENTIRE book. 🤣
It was a bit boring but overall I love the movie. Can't wait for part 2.
yeh took me 3 goes to get thru it, lot's of sad characters looking off screen and slow motion everywhere, director leaning on the sound track to prop up the scenes.
To me there's nothing boring about seeing the deep emotions being portrayed, but maybe it helps that I already love the characters going into it. Seemed to me there was lots of plot to contextualize those scenes, and the action scenes feel so weighty because they're not happening all the time, but are built up to with tension.
You honestly can’t see this is only half of the story? Even without “ part One” , the story can not stop here.. now the real world question, have they signed the contracts and started planning the filming.. i have no idea, but I am sure they will continue this remake.. I would think they Dune fan base would storm Hollywood if not.
I thought they under used the mental characters which were so important in the book.
All the characters were dumbed down, especially the Mentats and Shadout Mapes and even Liet-Kynes!
If it doesn't make a profit we won't get part two simple as that.
In the UK with the current round of covid so i won't be going to the cinema.... bummer, but health first.
Lady Jessica would be a very difficult character to portray on screen since there are at least three story lines and often conflicting motivations running through her at all times. Even Herbert wan't able to portray themm in the first novel and they were only fully revealed in the later books. There's her yet to be revealed backstory that she was Reverend Mother Gaius Moynahan's chosen handmaiden and probable succusor if she had only obeyed the Sisterhood. There's the tragic doomed love story of her and Paul's father, Leto. There's her arrogance at thinking she could bear the kwizach hadreach instead of the girl child the Bene Geserit required. There's her fierce protectiveness of her children and her blasphemous ascension to Reverend Mother. Hard to pack all that into one performance with probably a limited amount of screen time since Paul is the primary character and focus of the film. It's probably why they cut the 'Is Jessica the spy' plot line from the film entirely.
I never saw Jessica choosing to have a boy, her ego trying to birth the Kwizach Hadreach. She did it for Leto, out of love for him, and maybe a little rebellion for being mandated to only have a girl. Even if the Reverend Mother accused her of it. After all her next child was a girl, as was instructed by her order.
Good Review, I somewhat disagree with your opinion on Jessica though. I loved the portrayal of her character, felt like a more emotionally grounded version of one of my favorite characters
I found it almost as boring as the David Lynch version. The acting and casting terrible, I didn’t feel for any of the characters. The soundtrack was of the Earth very Eastern and African, never took me off world. Haven’t read the book but the film full of cliques. Overall just bland. Don’t understand all the 5 star reviews!! Had high expectations after Dennis blade runner.
Perhaps your use of "cliques" was not intended, as it seems to me you meant "cliches."
@@tonyleukering8832 are you the devil? Jesus fucking Christs! Language is not an absolute, Just read it in its context of which you did! Understanding it as you did as ‘cliches’ so why point it out, as again it’s read within the context of the paragraph and the analysis/critique as a whole. So we’ll done you in highlighting a typo due to the quick stream of consciousness I tried to get down, or an error due to predictive text, coupled with a very small iPhone keyboard I use, to comment on insignificant matters of art and culture. Mostly when insomnia hits. It’s unfortunate that you are a fair few decades late! As you could of worked for the Gestapo or the Stasi checking papers etc.
@@tonyleukering8832 unless your being genuinely helpful etc, then thank you, maybe I’ve read it as an attack and a slight. Difficult to get the context of something in type. So if I have, apologise. And it’s my prejudice at fault etc.
@@caraveldrawing9867 Helpful intent, as I've seen spell check and Grammerly make atrocious changes/suggestions, and it's easy to fix things in YT comments.
@@tonyleukering8832 I take it all back. Not my finest hour. I know just well sometimes let chips fall. I’ll leave as an error as it’s not glaring as read as such by most. I’m more or a Wabi-Sabi way of looking at the world, let things be. Why I should of let your comment just be and not been so aggressive. But I’m still learning. You have a good eye for the grammatical. A good quality not something I should of critiqued negatively.
What are we all doing anyhow spinning in this void on a Tiny blue dot, both going out of our way to comment on such insignificance. It is what it is
I feel alone in not really liking it at all. I agree with the audio/video quality, but felt it was too rushed through and didn't like the mix8ng of events in the story. I felt the same way about Jessica's translation. She came off like a weak and timid mouse, not the regal and accomplished bene gesserit operative. I have more criticiques, but those are the biggest ones. It may be that after 9 readings, I might be too married to the details of the book to not be jarred by the alterations. My feeling on the ending is that this movie ends as soon as the story of Dune begins. It demands a part 2. Point taken however that needing a part 2 and getting a part 2 don't always go together.
"It may be that after 9 readings, I might be too married to the details of the book to not be jarred by the alterations"
Yeah, well, I see the main problem right there!!!
Jessica's moments of crying and fighting the tears ARE moments of strength.
Stoic isn't strength.
Been reading SF for well over 50 years and loved the original 1984 Dune and was going to give this latest movie a miss mainly because I didn't want to see a "woke" film of Dune but your review has changed my mind. I would be interested in your reaction and review of a SF comedy of manners by Michael Moorcock titled "Dancers at the End of Time"....If you have the time😉
I agree with everything except maybe the lady Jessica thing, it would've been so difficult without her inner monologue to convey her true feelings and the complexity of her character, I think it turned out OK and we would've needed a 10 episode series to achieve prefection. But I agree with you on everything, especially on the over-franchising.
To me, there were 3 reasons why I went to the cinema for Dune screen adaptation: 1) to see an exotic world created for me to be amazed and curious, 2) to enjoy the seamless hybrid of SF and Fantasy, 3) to gasp at originality of it all. The movie failed on all 3 counts. The reason was one: absolutely everything in it was something I have seen before. No need to look for comics and literature - it's all been done in other Hollywood flicks. And the novel? It was groundbreaking. I'm deeply disappointed. I didn't go to check on professionalism of the cinematographer, sound engineer or anybody at all. I went to see in a movie what I read in the book. I don't care if the knives look as described, I wanted them to give me the same feeling of mystery. It's like with a postcard: it might show a city landscape well, but art it ain't. Herbert's Dune is art. I wanted a screen answer to that.
You should not be thinking about the books in the first place whilst watching their adaptations. How about that?
The same goes for American remakes of foreign films, for example.
You normally start watching something with the so-called 'clean slate' in your head/mind, *as it always should be, and try to get yourself surprised by the "new" (ANY) story unfolding in front of you. There is then no need to think of anything else.
To me, this comes across as utterly natural.
* - If you are unable to do that, then you are unfortunately a slave to your own presumptions, preconceptions and prejudices, which is, of course, something wrong by default. No offence intended.
I was too disappointed in their treatment of Lady Jessica; as you say, she's crying in most of her scenes, and this is nothing like how she's portrayed in the book. Shadout Mapes also wasn't well treated in the movie, as she plays a tiny, but critical, role in getting the word out to the Fremen of how Paul saved her from the hunter seeker. And lastly, Piter De Vries' death at the poison exhalation scene was non-existent -- not critical, but he seems like such a random character in the movie whereas he was used so elegantly to demonstrate how conniving the Baron was in the book.
Now that I write that all out... it's a good movie -- better than most -- but needed a little bit more depth to it. It will be lauded as visual masterpiece, but I'm sad it didn't really make me feel anything the way the books did.
Very slow movie, lots of lingering shots .. people looking off camera for ages... and slooooooooow moooootion!
took 70 mins to get going.
I could cut 60 mins in a video edit an loose nothing.
It actually felt somewhat short to me for a film that was two and a half hours long. It went by fairly quickly.
@@subraxas wow... just wow!
Ok, you go into a lot about Star Wars in a Dune "review". Just curious, what parts of Star Wars do you not like. You go into how its' all teh same and bland, and blah. Star Wars has at least 4 different on screen forms. The original three movies which are a great space opera heroes journey. The prequels which are tone def, and horribly written, the Clone Wars cartoons which are dumb cartoons, or the Disney dogshit that is KK's power fantasy?
Can't be anything but a disappointment if you read the books, possibly even trampling over your own impressions
Qurlyk, I think your read of this is spot on. He went in with all should-be’s and expectations. I think, watching the movie through that biased lens, virtually spoiled the experience for him.
I had read the book all month and got up to the point where the movie stops the very day I watched it: any disappointment I felt was small ripples in a sea of exaltation and wonder.
@@davidolden971 Also Star Wars. I used to have one expectation for an adaptation from one media to another, respect the original work. I understand things will change. For example, people hate that Tom Bombadil was not in Fellowship of the Rings. I totally understand why he was not, and it does not change the story.
Now because Hollywood joined the cult of identitiarian crazy, I can only wonder how much did they fuck it up?
A vapid fart in a desert wind