The animatronics are actually really good. Most of the issues with the ride stem from the weak narrative. In the original Splash Mountain followed the rule of "rising action" where the stakes slowly got more serious, with Brer Rabbit getting caught. The ride then meets its narrative and LITERAL climax with Brer Fox throwing him into the Brier Patch, right where the final drop of the ride is. With this new ride, there are no real stakes, so there is no sense of rising action, and the iconic final drop no longer signifies any narrative climax and is just...well, there.
You just pointed out something hilarious…. The rides shorter name is TBA, Disney’s favorite phrase to say when they “announce” projects and bring big promises…
Its so funny how Disney tried to make Splash Mountain more “inclusive”, by turning it into Tiana’s but they set the entire ride in a salt dome where slaves worked. And that’s somehow not racist while a ride with only animals is. We have a bunch of 2 year olds running Walt Disney Imagineering
It was a waste of time... and money. They should've either spent the money to get the ride system fully operational or just bulldozed the entire mountain flat. It's an absolute joke. But you've got to expect garbage from a garbage company, right?
I thought "empty" was referring to the interior of the former SM in Anaheim & that the Disney Co - before going ahead & redoing the original Splash - was maybe waiting to see how the one in Orlando would be treated. Complete ride-through vids of Tiana are now posted online, including by the Disney Co itself, &, whoa, we got a problem, Houston.
Having taught briefly in a public High School and seeing the number of shortcuts our students take to produce creative output, I wondered what their work would look like after graduation. Wonder no more: It will look like Tiana's Bayou Adventure, The Acolyte, and Atlas Shrugged, except worse.
They did exactly the same thing with the new version of the treehouse. They have signs explaining what you're looking at as you walk around, which seem totally out of place because they are clearly made by machine rather than by hand as it would have been by the shipwrecked Swiss family Robinsons.
If you look in the comments sections of videos you can see that the vloggers are already viscously attacking anyone who criticizes the ride. Disney must be offering them free passes for decades to do their dirty work.
I hate to judge a ride from a video....but dang! I can't help it! This ride seems so disjointed. It feels like it was built with RANDOM story parts all duct-taped with coat hanger wire and super glue. This thing just doesn't flow at all. It doesn't "feel" like a Bayou at all either. Even the music is bland and easily forgettable. Adding Dr. Facilier "could" have saved it but Disney CANCELED and sacrificed their own character on the altar of DEI. It seems that Dr. Facilier now promotes negative black stereotypes????? I mean,..that dude was the best part of the movie. Wow,...well?...maybe it's just the video that make the attraction look bad. Maybe when I actually ride it in a year or two (after I get my fill of Epic Universe) I'll somehow think it is amazing??? October 2024...it's Tokyo for me babeee!!
The big problem that u guys brought up is that we are stuck with this damn half assed attraction for many many years. It's just gonna sit there and b stupid!
The thing a lot of people forget, it seems, is that Brer Rabbit stories have been traced back to their origins...in Africa. They came across the Atlantic in the holds of the slave ships. The use of animal characters is basically a coat of paint because some people might have been more than a bit offended if they straight up said that Brer Rabbit's an escaped slave/freedman who is tricking those of higher status than himself. (There were a lot of these kinds of stories. One I particularly remember was a poor sharecropper who got told the deal was the landowner got all of the above-ground part of the crop...so he went okay! And planted potatoes. Landowner got wise, and said, okay, THIS year what's underground is my share of the crop...and the farmer went okay! and...well, didn't plant potatoes.) Does suggest it'd be very cheap to make a live-action version and just take some paint stripper to the camouflage. Just be nice and clear and go "For those of you in the back, THIS is what's really going down."
It's like Tony Baxter always says... If your gonna replace something, then it had better be as good as if not better than what was there before it . This is DEFINITELY not it!
Imagine getting rid of such a well themed and loved ride just to replace it with a placeholder. I understand the ride can be enhanced over time but wow, that’s disappointing. Tiana really deserves better than this
I was watching ClownfishTV reporting that Disney had released the video of Tiana's ride to avoid youtubers and influencers monetizing the first previews. Geeky Sparkles was commenting how that ride reminds her of the Na'vi ride with the projections and glowing mushrooms, especially when you're allegedly downsized then returned to your normal size by Mama Odie. And during that bit of the video, I was thinking how lame it is. The miniaturizing to a frog size is just an excuse for the empty background. Here and there a glowing giant mushroom. A few lost giant frogs. And bare pathetic cave walls. Jonas and Vash were pointing at the Spanish moss as prop. In French, we would call this "cache-misère". The translation is camouflage/screen/mask. But the literal translation is "hide misery". And in this present case, it's as much to hide destitution as it is to hide flaws. French people call something "cache-misère" self-deprecatingly because we would DIY some camouflage from scraps to hide something ugly, broken or defective that we can't afford or don't feel the need to replace or repair.
I live in Denham Springs, about an hour west of NO, I have liven in Louisiana for the last 40 years. I can assure you, there is no waterways IN New Orleans and that is desired. In fact, the fear of water in the city, let alone a waterway is very real. The city is below sea level, so around 150 huge water pumps work to remove water from the city as much as possible year around. So aside from this not being in the 1920's but noone actually cared to visit our state for this ride. SIDE NOTE: last weekend we spent time at The Floridian at a character dinner with Tiana and it was disappointing to see her in a safari outfit. It looked so out of place for a princess.
They did visit Louisiana. There is plenty of evidence for it. NOLAdotCOM and other affiliated New Orleans local news sites have been backing Disney parks propaganda for years. The New Orleans travel board even bought ads promoting the Haunted mansion movie on UA-cam. Side note: I live 10 minutes south of the lake.
What was wrong with simply making a dark ride based off of the movie instead of some convoluted co-op nonsense? It would be like making a Snow White ride, but Snow White is a CPA and we watch as she does the books for the Dwarves’ mining company.
Keeping it true to the film would force them to include Doctor Facilier and voodoo, which is a DEI no-no. Yes, Disney even finds Princess and the Frog "problematic". It's a big sick joke at this point.
According to racial laws in the United States at the time, would Naveen and Tiana have been permitted to marry? Doesn't the movie present him as being of Arabic descent whose marriage to a negro woman might not be considered valid in that jurisdiction, and potentially punishable by law? This is a critical plot point in Edna Ferber's' Showboat, so dramatically portrayed in a gut-wrenching moment when the white husband cuts his black wife's finger and sucks some of her blood, demonstrating that he was now black as well and could not be arrested for miscegenation.
Disneys version of “Smoke and Mirrors” ….. “Signs and Spanish Moss”…said earlier the song had “No Heart”, well appears the ride has “No Imagination”, or very little at best.
I saw a video and yeah it does look empty. I bet few people are going to have memories of the drop. I went to Splash Mountain one time I can remember . The drop is what stuck with me.
Splash Mountain never carried over any of the so-called “problematic” elements from South of the South. It’s literally just about Brer Rabbit outwitting Brer Fox. I went my whole childhood never knowing what Song of the South even was until I reached adulthood. I guarantee you no little kid ever correlated a ride about Brer Rabbit with some obscure, defunct film that Disney has done their best to erase from existence.
The memories of the “fear” I felt before the impending briar patch drop, ALL while hearing the cheerful songs are all gone. I even remember my dad enthusiastically explaining the ride to me during my first time riding. I really don’t think I have the emotional wherewithal to pitch going back there with my family. EVER. I am happy about one thing though. Disney leaked the ride fast, so I’d know how much of a WRECK this ride is now thanks to lazy and/or simple-minded personnel.
The finale is fine, but the rest is empty. Tiana and the crocodile character are well made animatronics. But they are overusing both of them. The first Tiana animatronic may cause a wow effect, but the second one will be less impressive and so on.
I was open to the change at first. However after watching the new Disney ride through, This has now become the worst ride at Disney. Epic universe is coming soon Disney
I’m glad even some of the Disney worshiping sheep are admitting that it sucks. There’s still a few that are rabidly defending it but my faith in humanity was restored that a lot of people (who normally praise everything Disney does) are criticizing this awful ride.
As a Splash fan, I am very disappointed. I loved getting on singing “How Do You Do?” While anticipating getting wet. The thump in my heart seeing the vultures and that small sense of dread knowing I’m gonna drop and potentially get soaked. Then singing zippity doo dah. This is… very bland without buildup. The only positive thing is the updated animatronics but they are all doing the same thing, playing instruments. The finale is also very underwhelming.
PLEASE! DON'T YOU LIKE BROCCOLI AND ONIONS WITH A SIDE OF CARROTS? I think it's brilliant! And spice for the ending...wash it down with some lettuce and bibidi-boppity-poo!
A virtual queue makes no sense for a ride that has a massive physical queue area. Unless Disney is using it to only allow “influencers” and vlogers to ride initially. That way they can try and put a positive spin on the situation.
Sadly that is probably exactly what they want to try and do. Because they know if normal guests go in it first the word is going to spread fast that it sucks (although surprisingly Disney posted the video of the ride first). So i wonder why they did that. Maybe they really thought it was good 😂
the full POV video that disney released confirmed how horrible this has turned out. Much worse than i had expected. As it happens, we'll be there in July. If we get a virtual number, we'll ride it. But there's is no way we'll pay for lightning lane. Blech. I should note that Splash Mountain was my all time favorite ride at WDW..
Showing you where you are with the brers banner is a perfect example of imagination. Tony Baxter and John Stone and everyone else just had creative juices flowing. The new imagineers not so much…
“Dead spots” were the words I used when describing Spice Girl’s Broccoli Mountain. Imagineers happened to suck out the original’s charm. I disagree with Vash, though. Disney still has the ability to transport guests into other worlds beautifully; it just happens in Tokyo.
If it’s empty I will have to go to my laughin’ place to sing a few bars of Zip-pidee-do-dah while saluting Iger with both middle fingers, because that would be “a wonderful day”…. My oh my…
The ride is noticeably empty when it is empty. When there are animatronics the characters have no character. When there is music the dancing is head bobbing. When there is magic there is no excitement. I don't care if there are animated screens. Just give the ride its sole of that there is nun. What killed the magic? The multiple opinions in executive business meetings. Diversity and Inclusion and avoiding doing anything offensive or exciting is what they have made here. How disappointing.
Lol. They must have done a ride through and realized for some reason it wasn't clear (probably from the "emptiness" and lack of storytelling elements leading up) where we were in the narrative. Hence... Signs?
There's also just no thrill in this lifeless retheme. The ride should have had the villain from the movie Dr. Facilier (the shadowman) and had him send riders flying down the river. It would have made for a better story and higher tension for the flume drops. A small nitpick I have too is that they could have incorporated hand drawn animation for the animated segments to match the original look and feel of the film. Using the modern 3D Disney style makes it feel cheap, rushed and just lazy.
You have to wonder how the Disneyland version will turn out since it looked like you were inside a mountain, so that means they had to do a lot of demo of the rock work if it’s going to look like the same lifeless bayou as the Florida version, plus the area that had the Burrough’s Lament scene could just end up being a stretch of nothing. And then there’s also the fact that the Disneyland version was faster, probably because of the narrower flume
This is how a small change could drastically improve the ride. If they were to change the dialouge of Tiana just sitting there with perhaps one where she gets bound down by something right next to the laughing place. Then include a spirit of Dr. Facilier where the mama odie scene is where she turns u small. Adds more dramatic/green lighting around the vines instead of the golden lights, as well as using green and purple instead of yellow and blue for where the frogs are (laughing place) (make the lights below the water that shoots out green to look like attacks). change the screens of Louis and Tiana just.. watching u on screen to one of Dr.Facilier taunting u and have the fireflys attempting to swat the spirit or whatever away.. Dr Facilier tries to attack u one more time through the screen where it currently has momma Odie saying get ready to get big. Before we see her at the lift hill fighting a green fog machine.. Hinting that she succeeded in turning us big again. That would add tensions (especially if they include just the tail end of Friends on the other side. The part post the contract being done.. as u go up the lift hill)Then right at the end or whatever where the city can be seen in the background have like a small version of that potion bottle with a green light in it or something to symbolize his capture. And boom.. There u go disney. Theres tension.. it doesnt require too much and justs requires some new animations and changing the colors of lights.. but there u go.. Theres ur tension. even if its short.. its still tension.. and will dramatically improve the ride.
SO disappointed in this. I was upset when I first heard they were closing/ redoing Splash Mountain but I was hoping they’d take the time to do it right. The animatronics are nice, but the concept and ride look meh… very disappointing. I miss the original ride already. 😕
It’s just one of things. It’s sad we lost SM but new families visiting won’t know the difference. Those that do remember the old attraction will either complain and not ride it, or complain and ride it anyway because it has that drop and it’s still “Splash Mountain” in spirit/layout if not theming.
Curious if these changes will increase or decrease the amount malfunctions on the ride. Now with fewer animatronics that could fail but there are background screens that could fail instead.
It looks like they had some paint and a few bits left over from Na'vi River Journey that they simply threw about. It's boring and bland, and the animatronics are childish, and there aren't enough of them. Tiana is barely recognisable.
Oh my goodness. All I see is an abused and bent over Spalsh Mountain. So Cheesy. So fake. They can't get rid of the red clay looking rock facade of Splash. Monstrously bad.
Tiana's Bayou Adventure is wokism embodied in ride form. It’s vapid, boring, stupid, low quality, uninspired, unimaginative, and has a weak, uninteresting plot. The ride has substantial blank spaces and lacks quality show scenes because Disney is no longer able to create quality dark rides with animatronics and three-dimensional show scenes that don’t rely on screens to tell the story. The few animatronics are low quality despite the supposedly advanced technology used for them. The music is uninspired and terrible. The ride scene before the first big lift hill features what appears to be a plywood wall with pictures of food painted on it. I hope this is just a temporary construction wall and not a permanent show scene. Disney’s quality has declined so markedly that it’s no longer possible to discern the difference between a construction wall and what Disney considers good enough to be a permanent show scene. This ride would have been better off being based off of The Princess and the Frog movie and should have included Dr. Facilier. Tiana's Bayou Adventure is abysmal in its own right and is made even worse by the fact that it replaced Splash Mountain which was a fantastic ride that ranked among the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean as Disney’s best rides. Splash Mountain was not racist and did not need to be replaced. Tiana's Bayou Adventure was not a “necessary downgrade” as the Disney apologist blog, Blog Mickey, absurdly states. Downgrading Splash Mountain was unnecessary and was done to appease a woke fringe minority who is offended by everything. Disney wants to condition its park guests to accept a downgraded, lackluster park experience as normal which guests should never accept. Customers should refuse to spend money on a terrible, purposely downgraded experience. The frequent breakdowns of this ride must be part of the “necessary downgrade” of Splash Mountain to Tiana's Bayou Adventure and are symbolic of the decline of Disney.
As someone who never watched the movie this is based off of, or have any desire to (I'm well past my "I need to see every Disney movie" part of my life with kids), I just hope this tells a story that is easy to follow (without needing to read any signs) and that I don't feel left out unless I watch the movie. But is there no "bad guy" on this ride? Something that there is a struggle against? Or is "finding the special spice" the struggle? Because I can't get behind that. I'm also curious on how they're going to integrate the drop into the story, before it was perfect "oh don't throw me off this big cliff into the briar patch!!" to ... what? "Into the pot you go, you special little spice" or something utterly stupid like that.
The bad guy from the movie apparently isn't politically correct enough either. They just like Tiana because she's black. And there doesn't seem to be an explanation for the drop.
My oh my what a wonderful day. Amazing that wasn’t good enough. People whistling and singing for the rest of their life. Did they think of the residual memories constantly remembered when whistling?
Splash Mountain's soul got ripped out and stuffed into one of those voodoo spirit bottles they have hanging everywhere. Gigantic spirit bottles in place of where cool animatronics were before. The whole thing glows like one big purple spirit bottle at night. Hard pass.
Disney should quit holding back and rename it Trans Bayou, then change all the vegetation to rainbow colors. That way it would reflect the values of their movement: Obnoxiously loud and lewd.
The fact that Prince Naveen wasn’t heavily featured in this ride is very disappointing. They could’ve made more animatronics of him instead of just showing him in the end
The fact that I found people saying Tiana's Bayou Adventure is worse than Superstar Limo restored my faith in humanity by 5%.
lol, which version of Superstar Limo? The opening day version where it was lame? Or the after Diana's death version where it was just pathetic?
@@Mike__B The pathetic one, I think.
WORSE Than Superstar Limo??
Really?!!! That’s an achievement
They never made Superstar limo that they originally planned they changed it before it opened after Diana's death @@Mike__B
Disney is pandering to less than 5% of their patrons. Brilliant F'ing strategy.
Zip a Dee Doo Dah, Zip a Dee Ay , my oh my what wonderful day... this song won a Academy award in 1947.
Habba-Loobah Habba-Labey, I can't wait to kill Krusty today!
It has been covered so many times, including the one by Bobby Sox & The Blue Jeans.
Friends On the Other Side going up the lift hill was a no brainer. A blindfolded home run. If you’re gonna reinvent the wheel, at least make it round.
True, but modern imagineering could never pull this off unless they handed the keys to Tony Baxter and said “have fun.”
“Are you ready?” 🎶
LGBT up there sees the round wheel and call it a square
the wheel is now a square look at how great it is.
The animatronics are actually really good. Most of the issues with the ride stem from the weak narrative.
In the original Splash Mountain followed the rule of "rising action" where the stakes slowly got more serious, with Brer Rabbit getting caught. The ride then meets its narrative and LITERAL climax with Brer Fox throwing him into the Brier Patch, right where the final drop of the ride is.
With this new ride, there are no real stakes, so there is no sense of rising action, and the iconic final drop no longer signifies any narrative climax and is just...well, there.
I knew TBA was going to be meh, but I didn't realize it was actually going to be downright atrocious. Disney has a disaster on their hands.
You just pointed out something hilarious…. The rides shorter name is TBA, Disney’s favorite phrase to say when they “announce” projects and bring big promises…
It’s disappointing, but not a disaster. That’s a stretch.
@@rsw552it sucks.
Its so funny how Disney tried to make Splash Mountain more “inclusive”, by turning it into Tiana’s but they set the entire ride in a salt dome where slaves worked. And that’s somehow not racist while a ride with only animals is. We have a bunch of 2 year olds running Walt Disney Imagineering
Long Live the Briar Patch!
Respectfully, this whole retheme was a waste of time. 👎
Yeah they pretty much rushed it imo
The Re-theme was unnecessary
And money. Don't forget the money.
It was a waste of time... and money. They should've either spent the money to get the ride system fully operational or just bulldozed the entire mountain flat. It's an absolute joke. But you've got to expect garbage from a garbage company, right?
I thought "empty" was referring to the interior of the former SM in Anaheim & that the Disney Co - before going ahead & redoing the original Splash - was maybe waiting to see how the one in Orlando would be treated. Complete ride-through vids of Tiana are now posted online, including by the Disney Co itself, &, whoa, we got a problem, Houston.
Having taught briefly in a public High School and seeing the number of shortcuts our students take to produce creative output, I wondered what their work would look like after graduation. Wonder no more: It will look like Tiana's Bayou Adventure, The Acolyte, and Atlas Shrugged, except worse.
Just "Atlas" not "Atlas Shrugged."
Changing Splash Mountain is another bad decision by Disney. I'm wondering if Iger is trying to hurt the company on purpose.
Iger doesn't care what happens to Disney. He is pushing a political ideology at all costs.
He is
@@skunkman9815hahaha,bad Bobby
Like most other big corporations, it's all about appeasing BlackRock's ESG score.
Just yesterday I was listening to a 1970’s era album of briar Rabbit with zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah and it was great
That song is committing a racism and your local ministry of truth and democracy represenatives will be notified.
They did exactly the same thing with the new version of the treehouse. They have signs explaining what you're looking at as you walk around, which seem totally out of place because they are clearly made by machine rather than by hand as it would have been by the shipwrecked Swiss family Robinsons.
To be honest I'm continuously surprised that no one's tried to completely axe the tree house in favor of something much dumber.
If you look in the comments sections of videos you can see that the vloggers are already viscously attacking anyone who criticizes the ride. Disney must be offering them free passes for decades to do their dirty work.
No, they're just a cult.
@@SpyderDan1985 you’re not wrong
They know if they don't sugarcoat their opinions, Disney won't hesitate to kick 'em off the exclusive media list.
@@SpyderDan1985 a evil cult
I hate to judge a ride from a video....but dang! I can't help it! This ride seems so disjointed. It feels like it was built with RANDOM story parts all duct-taped with coat hanger wire and super glue. This thing just doesn't flow at all. It doesn't "feel" like a Bayou at all either. Even the music is bland and easily forgettable. Adding Dr. Facilier "could" have saved it but Disney CANCELED and sacrificed their own character on the altar of DEI. It seems that Dr. Facilier now promotes negative black stereotypes????? I mean,..that dude was the best part of the movie. Wow,...well?...maybe it's just the video that make the attraction look bad. Maybe when I actually ride it in a year or two (after I get my fill of Epic Universe) I'll somehow think it is amazing??? October 2024...it's Tokyo for me babeee!!
DEI which stands for DIDN'T EARN IT. 😀👌
@@georgeawestjr.9087you people are pathetic…
The current Imaginers are incapable of storytelling.
Their story telling is woke now that's why.
I was thinking the same thing
@@davidmacias741 black = woke?
There is absolutely no re-rideabilty to this at all. Like my family felt after riding Ratatouille and Mickey & Minnie’s Empty Warehouse Adventure.
The big problem that u guys brought up is that we are stuck with this damn half assed attraction for many many years. It's just gonna sit there and b stupid!
The thing a lot of people forget, it seems, is that Brer Rabbit stories have been traced back to their origins...in Africa. They came across the Atlantic in the holds of the slave ships. The use of animal characters is basically a coat of paint because some people might have been more than a bit offended if they straight up said that Brer Rabbit's an escaped slave/freedman who is tricking those of higher status than himself. (There were a lot of these kinds of stories. One I particularly remember was a poor sharecropper who got told the deal was the landowner got all of the above-ground part of the crop...so he went okay! And planted potatoes. Landowner got wise, and said, okay, THIS year what's underground is my share of the crop...and the farmer went okay! and...well, didn't plant potatoes.)
Does suggest it'd be very cheap to make a live-action version and just take some paint stripper to the camouflage. Just be nice and clear and go "For those of you in the back, THIS is what's really going down."
Disney didn’t like the reviews of their movies flopping. They are not gonna like the reviews on this horrible Tiana re-theme.
disney is scared
It's like Tony Baxter always says...
If your gonna replace something, then it had better be as good as if not better than what was there before it .
This is DEFINITELY not it!
He was smart to not put his name on this trash
This is the second time Disney pulled this shit on one of Baxter's works. The man did nothing to deserve this.
You are the spice? So, Tiana's Gumbo....is people?!?
Soylent Gumbo
"The gumbo is people!!!!" Cartman would be proud.
We will be like the BBQ in Fried Green Tomatoes! 😳🫢
@33Keith33 I'm not gonna lie, I like this nickname for the ride even more so than "Trash Mountain".😂😂😂
Was there any doubt?
Imagine getting rid of such a well themed and loved ride just to replace it with a placeholder. I understand the ride can be enhanced over time but wow, that’s disappointing. Tiana really deserves better than this
We should fill a boat with people who will sing 🎶Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah🎶 at the top of their lungs throughout the ride!
This needs to be a thing.
I was watching ClownfishTV reporting that Disney had released the video of Tiana's ride to avoid youtubers and influencers monetizing the first previews. Geeky Sparkles was commenting how that ride reminds her of the Na'vi ride with the projections and glowing mushrooms, especially when you're allegedly downsized then returned to your normal size by Mama Odie. And during that bit of the video, I was thinking how lame it is. The miniaturizing to a frog size is just an excuse for the empty background. Here and there a glowing giant mushroom. A few lost giant frogs. And bare pathetic cave walls.
Jonas and Vash were pointing at the Spanish moss as prop. In French, we would call this "cache-misère". The translation is camouflage/screen/mask. But the literal translation is "hide misery". And in this present case, it's as much to hide destitution as it is to hide flaws. French people call something "cache-misère" self-deprecatingly because we would DIY some camouflage from scraps to hide something ugly, broken or defective that we can't afford or don't feel the need to replace or repair.
They turned the Laughing Place into a Laughing Stock
"You are the spice."
"It's a cookbook!"
Splash Mountain ✔
Tiana's Bayou Adventure ✖
Disney Parks page with the POV video is getting ratio
I live in Denham Springs, about an hour west of NO, I have liven in Louisiana for the last 40 years. I can assure you, there is no waterways IN New Orleans and that is desired. In fact, the fear of water in the city, let alone a waterway is very real. The city is below sea level, so around 150 huge water pumps work to remove water from the city as much as possible year around.
So aside from this not being in the 1920's but noone actually cared to visit our state for this ride. SIDE NOTE: last weekend we spent time at The Floridian at a character dinner with Tiana and it was disappointing to see her in a safari outfit. It looked so out of place for a princess.
She has to wear pants because of gender equality or something.
They did visit Louisiana. There is plenty of evidence for it. NOLAdotCOM and other affiliated New Orleans local news sites have been backing Disney parks propaganda for years. The New Orleans travel board even bought ads promoting the Haunted mansion movie on UA-cam. Side note: I live 10 minutes south of the lake.
I grew up in Denham. Hi! Lol
I think it will be more fun if Tiana's ride includes scenes with the depressed Oompa Loompa and The Unknown.
What was wrong with simply making a dark ride based off of the movie instead of some convoluted co-op nonsense? It would be like making a Snow White ride, but Snow White is a CPA and we watch as she does the books for the Dwarves’ mining company.
Keeping it true to the film would force them to include Doctor Facilier and voodoo, which is a DEI no-no. Yes, Disney even finds Princess and the Frog "problematic". It's a big sick joke at this point.
@@SirBuzz And Prince Naveen is just some neme on a sign. Not even a real character.
I still miss the scary snow white ride from when I was a kid 😂
Can you even define DEI? It has nothing to do with this.
@@mondenkindqueen Define it for us.
If Build Back Better was an amusement park ride
Wait, where's Prince Naveen? Maybe he is there in the ride, but he has no relevance to the Disney Junior plot.
According to racial laws in the United States at the time, would Naveen and Tiana have been permitted to marry? Doesn't the movie present him as being of Arabic descent whose marriage to a negro woman might not be considered valid in that jurisdiction, and potentially punishable by law? This is a critical plot point in Edna Ferber's' Showboat, so dramatically portrayed in a gut-wrenching moment when the white husband cuts his black wife's finger and sucks some of her blood, demonstrating that he was now black as well and could not be arrested for miscegenation.
Disneys version of “Smoke and Mirrors” ….. “Signs and Spanish Moss”…said earlier the song had “No Heart”, well appears the ride has “No Imagination”, or very little at best.
I saw a video and yeah it does look empty. I bet few people are going to have memories of the drop. I went to Splash Mountain one time I can remember . The drop is what stuck with me.
"In the future, your ride will be nothing, and you will enjoy it."
Splash Mountain never carried over any of the so-called “problematic” elements from South of the South. It’s literally just about Brer Rabbit outwitting Brer Fox. I went my whole childhood never knowing what Song of the South even was until I reached adulthood. I guarantee you no little kid ever correlated a ride about Brer Rabbit with some obscure, defunct film that Disney has done their best to erase from existence.
Everyone has a crying place.
The memories of the “fear” I felt before the impending briar patch drop, ALL while hearing the cheerful songs are all gone.
I even remember my dad enthusiastically explaining the ride to me during my first time riding.
I really don’t think I have the emotional wherewithal to pitch going back there with my family. EVER.
I am happy about one thing though. Disney leaked the ride fast, so I’d know how much of a WRECK this ride is now thanks to lazy and/or simple-minded personnel.
The finale is fine, but the rest is empty. Tiana and the crocodile character are well made animatronics. But they are overusing both of them. The first Tiana animatronic may cause a wow effect, but the second one will be less impressive and so on.
I was open to the change at first. However after watching the new Disney ride through, This has now become the worst ride at Disney. Epic universe is coming soon Disney
Saw a video of the ride. And I thought it was emptyy. Then I looked in the comments below it and was relieved to know I'm not the only one.
I’m glad even some of the Disney worshiping sheep are admitting that it sucks. There’s still a few that are rabidly defending it but my faith in humanity was restored that a lot of people (who normally praise everything Disney does) are criticizing this awful ride.
As a Splash fan, I am very disappointed. I loved getting on singing “How Do You Do?” While anticipating getting wet. The thump in my heart seeing the vultures and that small sense of dread knowing I’m gonna drop and potentially get soaked. Then singing zippity doo dah. This is… very bland without buildup. The only positive thing is the updated animatronics but they are all doing the same thing, playing instruments. The finale is also very underwhelming.
Walt said kids like to be alittle scared.
Truth.
Just like they do in pirates 🏴☠️ a decade later. “We wants the Redhead”
The song “Zipitee Doo Dah” will forever haunt all aspects of that ride.
You said it correctly, NOW DESTROYED! Sad replacement for a once amazing ride.
PLEASE! DON'T YOU LIKE BROCCOLI AND ONIONS WITH A SIDE OF CARROTS? I think it's brilliant! And spice for the ending...wash it down with some lettuce and bibidi-boppity-poo!
It's a shell of what it used to be, and it's now an eyesore and a painful reminder that ain't the loved attraction is there no more 😢🙏🏻❤️
A virtual queue makes no sense for a ride that has a massive physical queue area.
Unless Disney is using it to only allow “influencers” and vlogers to ride initially. That way they can try and put a positive spin on the situation.
Sadly that is probably exactly what they want to try and do. Because they know if normal guests go in it first the word is going to spread fast that it sucks (although surprisingly Disney posted the video of the ride first). So i wonder why they did that. Maybe they really thought it was good 😂
the full POV video that disney released confirmed how horrible this has turned out. Much worse than i had expected. As it happens, we'll be there in July. If we get a virtual number, we'll ride it. But there's is no way we'll pay for lightning lane. Blech. I should note that Splash Mountain was my all time favorite ride at WDW..
Showing you where you are with the brers banner is a perfect example of imagination. Tony Baxter and John Stone and everyone else just had creative juices flowing. The new imagineers not so much…
Tony was definitely upset with the reason they changed his beloved ride.
@@davidmacias741I’m glad he walked away from this project too, he was smart
Special spice makes me think of the quote of the plural of spouse is spice... I could totally see Tiana asking Charlotte to join her marriage.
🤔 Maybe that's the reason opening is during "pride" month.
I really enjoy what I have seen from the new ride tbh. There are a few things I would like to be improved… but by no means do I hate it.
“Dead spots” were the words I used when describing Spice Girl’s Broccoli Mountain. Imagineers happened to suck out the original’s charm.
I disagree with Vash, though. Disney still has the ability to transport guests into other worlds beautifully; it just happens in Tokyo.
If it’s empty I will have to go to my laughin’ place to sing a few bars of Zip-pidee-do-dah while saluting Iger with both middle fingers, because that would be “a wonderful day”…. My oh my…
I was at WDW a few days ago and asked the caricature artist if he could draw me Bob Iger with both thumbs up his own a$$ but alas he said no…
The ride is noticeably empty when it is empty. When there are animatronics the characters have no character. When there is music the dancing is head bobbing. When there is magic there is no excitement. I don't care if there are animated screens. Just give the ride its sole of that there is nun. What killed the magic? The multiple opinions in executive business meetings. Diversity and Inclusion and avoiding doing anything offensive or exciting is what they have made here. How disappointing.
I am looking forward to the D-File episode about the design sessions for Soylent Mountain.
Lol. They must have done a ride through and realized for some reason it wasn't clear (probably from the "emptiness"
and lack of storytelling elements leading up) where we were in the narrative. Hence... Signs?
There's also just no thrill in this lifeless retheme. The ride should have had the villain from the movie Dr. Facilier (the shadowman) and had him send riders flying down the river. It would have made for a better story and higher tension for the flume drops. A small nitpick I have too is that they could have incorporated hand drawn animation for the animated segments to match the original look and feel of the film. Using the modern 3D Disney style makes it feel cheap, rushed and just lazy.
You have to wonder how the Disneyland version will turn out since it looked like you were inside a mountain, so that means they had to do a lot of demo of the rock work if it’s going to look like the same lifeless bayou as the Florida version, plus the area that had the Burrough’s Lament scene could just end up being a stretch of nothing. And then there’s also the fact that the Disneyland version was faster, probably because of the narrower flume
No wonder the food at Tiana's Palace in Disneyland is so bland. You're supposed to be your own secret spice.
It's a fraction of what it once was... so disappointed.
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Ive seen some of the animatronics. They look AMAZING. I will MISS Splash Mountain. But Im Excited. But again i go to Disneyland.
I knew it was gonna fail!!!
This is how a small change could drastically improve the ride. If they were to change the dialouge of Tiana just sitting there with perhaps one where she gets bound down by something right next to the laughing place. Then include a spirit of Dr. Facilier where the mama odie scene is where she turns u small. Adds more dramatic/green lighting around the vines instead of the golden lights, as well as using green and purple instead of yellow and blue for where the frogs are (laughing place) (make the lights below the water that shoots out green to look like attacks). change the screens of Louis and Tiana just.. watching u on screen to one of Dr.Facilier taunting u and have the fireflys attempting to swat the spirit or whatever away.. Dr Facilier tries to attack u one more time through the screen where it currently has momma Odie saying get ready to get big. Before we see her at the lift hill fighting a green fog machine.. Hinting that she succeeded in turning us big again. That would add tensions (especially if they include just the tail end of Friends on the other side. The part post the contract being done.. as u go up the lift hill)Then right at the end or whatever where the city can be seen in the background have like a small version of that potion bottle with a green light in it or something to symbolize his capture. And boom.. There u go disney. Theres tension.. it doesnt require too much and justs requires some new animations and changing the colors of lights.. but there u go.. Theres ur tension. even if its short.. its still tension.. and will dramatically improve the ride.
SO disappointed in this. I was upset when I first heard they were closing/ redoing Splash Mountain but I was hoping they’d take the time to do it right. The animatronics are nice, but the concept and ride look meh… very disappointing. I miss the original ride already. 😕
I can’t believe Disney chased him off, they badly need that talent back
6 anamatronics take up only so much space.
I wish Joe Rohde was still an imagineer! He would have created a far more compelling storyline
It’s just one of things. It’s sad we lost SM but new families visiting won’t know the difference. Those that do remember the old attraction will either complain and not ride it, or complain and ride it anyway because it has that drop and it’s still “Splash Mountain” in spirit/layout if not theming.
It looks like an eruption of Mount Crapatoa.
The veggie mural on the fence looks like a supermarket wall sign above the produce section.
Don't lie to yourself this ride is garbage. I give it 6 months before Splash Mountain returns.
I wonder how all the new plastic “plants” will do in 95 degree summer heat. Plastic odors?
How's DEI been working out for you, Disney? 🤔
Curious if these changes will increase or decrease the amount malfunctions on the ride. Now with fewer animatronics that could fail but there are background screens that could fail instead.
I saw a ride through video from someone yesterday and on his second ride through it broke down. They had to be evacuated, fun times.
What happened !!!?😢 Why Disney why ?!!!!
The Friends From the Other Side obviously should’ve been in the ride at the drop. The ride is soooo boring.
It looks like they had some paint and a few bits left over from Na'vi River Journey that they simply threw about. It's boring and bland, and the animatronics are childish, and there aren't enough of them. Tiana is barely recognisable.
Oh my goodness. All I see is an abused and bent over Spalsh Mountain. So Cheesy. So fake. They can't get rid of the red clay looking rock facade of Splash. Monstrously bad.
Hey guys, lighten UP! We now have TWO laughing places!!! One at Universal HQ and one at Nelson's house! :)
So... they replaced the animatronics... with signs? I'm not impressed
If they would have used the storyline from the movie it would have been tolerable but this is just boring and has no soul. Long live Splash Mountain!
Tiana's Bayou Adventure is wokism embodied in ride form. It’s vapid, boring, stupid, low quality, uninspired, unimaginative, and has a weak, uninteresting plot.
The ride has substantial blank spaces and lacks quality show scenes because Disney is no longer able to create quality dark rides with animatronics and three-dimensional show scenes that don’t rely on screens to tell the story.
The few animatronics are low quality despite the supposedly advanced technology used for them.
The music is uninspired and terrible.
The ride scene before the first big lift hill features what appears to be a plywood wall with pictures of food painted on it.
I hope this is just a temporary construction wall and not a permanent show scene. Disney’s quality has declined so markedly that it’s no longer possible to discern the difference between a construction wall and what Disney considers good enough to be a permanent show scene.
This ride would have been better off being based off of The Princess and the Frog movie and should have included Dr. Facilier.
Tiana's Bayou Adventure is abysmal in its own right and is made even worse by the fact that it replaced Splash Mountain which was a fantastic ride that ranked among the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean as Disney’s best rides.
Splash Mountain was not racist and did not need to be replaced.
Tiana's Bayou Adventure was not a “necessary downgrade” as the Disney apologist blog, Blog Mickey, absurdly states. Downgrading Splash Mountain was unnecessary and was done to appease a woke fringe minority who is offended by everything.
Disney wants to condition its park guests to accept a downgraded, lackluster park experience as normal which guests should never accept. Customers should refuse to spend money on a terrible, purposely downgraded experience.
The frequent breakdowns of this ride must be part of the “necessary downgrade” of Splash Mountain to Tiana's Bayou Adventure and are symbolic of the decline of Disney.
The more videos I see of the ride I keep thinking this ride can’t be real it has to be missing something else. It clearly was rushed and not finished.
As someone who never watched the movie this is based off of, or have any desire to (I'm well past my "I need to see every Disney movie" part of my life with kids), I just hope this tells a story that is easy to follow (without needing to read any signs) and that I don't feel left out unless I watch the movie. But is there no "bad guy" on this ride? Something that there is a struggle against? Or is "finding the special spice" the struggle? Because I can't get behind that. I'm also curious on how they're going to integrate the drop into the story, before it was perfect "oh don't throw me off this big cliff into the briar patch!!" to ... what? "Into the pot you go, you special little spice" or something utterly stupid like that.
The bad guy from the movie apparently isn't politically correct enough either. They just like Tiana because she's black. And there doesn't seem to be an explanation for the drop.
My oh my what a wonderful day. Amazing that wasn’t good enough. People whistling and singing for the rest of their life. Did they think of the residual memories constantly remembered when whistling?
It takes extraordinary talent to put everything together and have a hit. It's almost impossible by committee
Splash Mountain's soul got ripped out and stuffed into one of those voodoo spirit bottles they have hanging everywhere. Gigantic spirit bottles in place of where cool animatronics were before. The whole thing glows like one big purple spirit bottle at night. Hard pass.
Does anyone have Michael Eisner’s phone number?
Who thought this would be a good idea ? Gonna be a walk on for years to come
It’s funny how even iger said it was boring 😂
Snooze fest. No story. No tension. Random music scenes. Empty space between scenes. Gimme a break.
Reminds me of the crappy web slingers ride Disney churned out here at California adventure
There's only one reason for all this hate, you people are sad.
Its worse then the old ride. And so freaking cheap with the SCREENS crap. Modern disney does not know how actually do theme
Why do they still use the logs? It's a bayou , why not a bayou boat?
I still can't believe that Disney thought that this was going to save them from Epic Universe. This ride looks even worse than I thought it would!
Disney should quit holding back and rename it Trans Bayou, then change all the vegetation to rainbow colors. That way it would reflect the values of their movement: Obnoxiously loud and lewd.
The fact that Prince Naveen wasn’t heavily featured in this ride is very disappointing. They could’ve made more animatronics of him instead of just showing him in the end
Is it just me or did the same person design Moana that designed Tiniqua, er Tiana? Their faces are identical. Hmmm, are they twins separated at birth?
I noticed the Tiana animatronic seems like a re skin of the belle animatronic from Tokyo Disneyland
Destroying a beloved ride for political nonsense is one thing. Retheming it to be ten times worse. That is a slap in the face to 90% of Disney fans.