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Excellent video with well thought out points. Kind of reminds me of former smokers who decide to take another puff and then realize, nah, it's not worth it or as good as it used to be. lol
I think you should do a video simply titled "Disney has gotten too expensive" since every experience you've had can be summed up in that one sentence. Same can be said for their movies in 2023 which flopped hard despite billions of dollars spent on them.
The virtual line pass is ridiculous. My family and I drove 14 hours to Florida to go to universal studios and that was the only way to ride Hagrids. We tried all day and could never get a pass so my brother and I along with our kids went to guest services to talk. We pretty much had to stomp our feet until they gave us one. Not very fun.
This is it. People can complain all they want. But Genie+ sells very well. On busy days, it sells out. The hotels are as full as they've ever been, from value to DVC villas. People buy tons of merch, snacks, and meals. Ticketed events like holiday parties sell out way in advance. Yeah it's crazy expensive, and IMO predatory (see Jake's comment on Genie+ maybe being worth it for the one-time family vacation), but as long as people continue to reliably pay, it will only get worse.
Best way to save money at theme parks in general. STOP!!!! BUYING ALL THE STUPID ADD ONS. People complaining about the prices are the same ones that'll eat at a terrible Disney restaurant with trash food vs eating at a local restaurant. People need to stop encouraging what they supposedly want to stop
Yep. People no longer bat an eye at seemingly small “add ons” on their phones. And people are putting everything on credit nowadays anyways. Society is getting out of hand
Low Income family, but Disneyland was just down the street so I got to go maybe four times before moving out of state. Dad would get each of us the booklets of tickets and we'd all choose which 'E' rides to go on first. By the end of the day and everyone more tired, we decide which 'A' rides were worth stomaching. That was when it was under $14 to enter the park and get a booklet of tickets. Now... nope. Sounds like a super expensive chore.
Ive never been able to enjoy these things. I always got sick or hurt. If id buy tickets id just break my legs tomorrw and itll be a waste just like all the other times.
@@TD75I honestly wasn’t super impressed when I went to Disney last year. $20 per person for a fast pass is insane. We had the genie plus too, but it doesn’t even get you that many rides.
I agree, it’s depressing. My parents stretched their budget to make a trip there possible in the mid 90’s. I’m better off than my parents were and the same trip with my daughter is just not realistic.
The six flags near me has had their flashpass system long before genie+ came along. I used it once years ago, $65 and you got three rides, thats it. I’m sure it’s different now though.
Um, 6 flags has a system too but their system is wayyyyy more expensive. We did a trip at start of year and parks were crazy busy. Did not matter as genie plus let us ride almost everything. Disney system is CHEAP compared to other systems.
I was at Disney when Pokemon GO dropped. Everyone was freaking out about pokemon behind fences and glued to their phones. What a way to spend a Disney trip
It was horrible when i went last year, the most stressful holiday ever, and 3 weeks in orlando cost us around $22000Aud so a disaster on the wallet too
We just went there from Scotland. My Lord, I have never felt more rinsed for my money that at Disney World. I also have a lot of additional support needs which Disney World refused to help me with and made me sit through a horrible and emotionally painful process for anyway. Staff also do not seem happy at work, or at least a large portion of them. Like they aren’t being cared for by their employer. Our time at Universal however, the total opposite. They were so supportive, caring, staff were amazing and attentive, it was brilliant. If I do return, I’ll be spending all of my time there, perhaps a day or two at Animal Kingdom or Hollywood studios. It was the trip of lifetime for us after a very traumatic event for us which involved severe illness on my part. We still had an amazing time at Disney, but we noticed things. Conversely, Disneyland Paris is absolutely amazing and couldn’t be any more different in terms of support and price.
We took my daughter & grand daughter last year & hated the crowds & the long lines for a lot of the best rides . I noticed that many people seemed stressed - out & ill-tempered, probably because you spend a fortune to get there & then realize much of your time is spent just waiting .
90% of disneyland experience is you walking around in hot weather and waiting in lines for a 1 min rides..... I'd take that money and vaca somewhere else around in a exotic country with way better experience and way cheaper than Disneyland.
With their high prices, it really shocks me to see people so relaxed, just walking around slowly with no set plan of getting their moneys worth… some people dont seem to even get on any rides, and seem happy to just walk around, i guess thats a good thing, but it still surprises me
This must be an "american thing"! I´m from Europe and for roughly 1000$ per day i can book a mediteranian-cruise (at a private!! yacht 4 pax) or travel to the Seychelles or Maledieves instead waste my money on this crap! I can understand if someone had kids to go and see Disneyland, even it´s a "money burner"....but as an adult #Never (not even for free)
This has been my refusal to go to Disneyland again. All you do is stand in line. Even if the park pass was free, I'm not sure I would want to spend my day in lines. Plus guess who's even worse at waiting in lines than adults... kids. So you have screaming kids who are hot, thirsty, hungry, angry and impatient. Everywhere you look you pay more money. Honestly the price of food doesn't bother me as much as most people. It's the fact that you are always in line. Line for the bathroom, line to get a drink, line for the ride, line for the bus, line for lunch.
Right?? It certainly isn't the Disney we grew up going to. I remember it being expensive even in the mid 90's, but still something we could do once every few years. I didn't even know they got rid of Fastpass because I haven't gone since 2017, and it looks like I won't be going back anytime soon.
@@louc3268 Having grown up in California just a short drive to Disneyland...and now 75 years old....having gone there many many times, looking at it now, it is a totally cheap fake worthless piece of overpriced nonsense. It reminds me at the core as very Wallmart, with a fancy paint job.....it is idiotic mind numbing and designed to fleece the masses and mind manipulation so that all the stupid low iQ masses gladly pay the inflated prices. When I was young, I preferred Knotts Berry Farm for its authentic old west vibe. I even worked as a can can girl in the Calico saloon for an entire year....Back then it was free admittance and all the prices were a bargain.
We actually recently priced it out. It's cheaper to fly to Tokyo, stay, eat, and go to Disney there, than it is to go to either Disney park in the US. And we live in the US, and can drive to some of these
@@Fhwgads11look up the price for tokyo disneyland and disneysea and convert to USD. it’s dirt cheap compared to the US parks. you can also buy tickets to the tokyo disney parks at convenience stores in japan like 7/11
@Fhwgads11 there and back flights range anywhere from 1400 to 2000$ USD per ticket Hotel prices (normal hotels, didn't check disney ones) are from 40 to 200 a night Actual park tickets depending on your age and amount of time spent are around 140-200 per person This is based off of googled amounts and doesn't include food or transport so I could be completely off, I would recommend sitting down with your family and having a conversation about it, finding places to stay and plane tickets so you have a better idea.
I am German and did a roadtrip in Florida two years ago. Even as a hige Star Wars Fan since the 80s I skipped Disney and visited real space ships at Cape Canaveral. Never regretted that decision!
Yes the company currebtly is running on the brand of disney world to keep things going. When you go there, you notice a lot of people are stressed the hell out
Part of the problem is that a lot of folks today don’t see a trip to Disney World as a vacation, but a pilgrimage. It’s something they believe they’re just supposed to do, and no matter how steep the price tag gets, that conviction remains.
Disney parks have always been out of our family's park range, so I've never gone there. I do remember when my grandmother told us she was saving up to take us to Disney. However, the park kept getting more expensive, and my grandma passed away before ever saving enough money to take us there. She was saving up for about TEN YEARS, and didn't make enough to afford a Disney trip for even herself, since she had the added complications of needing a wheelchair, much less her and three kids. This was way before the prices started skyrocketing, too.
You paid almost a grand to ride 3-4 rides , eat 3 meals and stay 1 night in a mid hotel.😮 Yet Disney is packed with people to pay that (and more). The world is crazy!
It’s mostly older adults who are retired or influencers who get payed to go. Then you have the normal middle class family vacations and the low amount of people who saved a lot
I go every year. It's not full of just old people and influencers. Also, if you have the means, what's the issues? More people have the means to take trips like this than you may think.
I’m a Canadian who grew up lower class (single mother raising me and my brother, bordering on poverty class at times) and when I tell you I used to FANTASIZE about a Disney trip. Disney rentals from Blockbuster raised me on nights my mom worked late and they always had commercials for the parks. I still want to go at some point in my life, but now at 31 years old hearing how different it is to the parks I dreamed about as a little girl is really disheartening
Same! And with the current economic downturn in Canada (can't afford shit here!!!) No way id be able to afford to go down to the USA to go to disney world/land. Way too much $$$ in exchange rate alone. Id rather spend the hundreds/thousands you need to travel there and go elsewhere.
I went to a Disney park…..AS A FUCKING BABY. I don’t even know which one I went to and I’m only going if from stories of my parent, so this baby was most likely my big sister and not even me
Hi Mellie, I'm truly sorry to hear you've never got to live out this dream of visiting the park. I can empathize greatly. I've always been poor but knew I'd make it there one day so at 21, I got a credit card and flew to Florida. I maxed it out visiting the parks. I'm 26 and still paying it off. I wish I could say it was worth it. the parks were packed. the lines were long. the days were hot. it's hard to have memories of it when most of the time I was heat exhausted in the cues. Disney has become completely overrated sadly. I still hope one day you get to live out that fantasy when it won't financially harm you
@@Thatswildpimp Nope, it won't. Corporations got a taste of REAL unadulterated greed during/after covid, with huge profits and returns, and now shareholders won't let them NOT do this kind of thing anymore. More profits, more squeezing the consumer, more, more, more.
It's devastating to see crowds bigger and bigger while Disney squeezes everybody more and more. I'm almost as mad at everybody continuing to support them than I am at Disney itself...
@@Housewarmin I'm no football fan, but at least the Superbowl is a once-a-year event acting as the championship for the entire league. If you're a big football fan, especially if one of your teams is one of those competing in it, then yea, I'd say it's at least somewhat justified to be willing to spend a lot of money on something that's such a big deal overall. But Disney? Disney's there every day, offering the same services, and the variable prices are only for selling more tickets overall, not because you're getting less or more or whatever. Hell, even as someone who doesn't like football, I'd probably sooner spend that amount of money on going to the Superbowl myself than bothering with Disney. At least with the Superbowl I'm actually going to be able to see the game, whereas with Disney I might not even get to ride the rides I want, which would be my entire reason for being in the park.
To some people, Disney is a once in a liftetime or once a decade trip. They will always spend to have the trip they want. Disney knows that, and will always go after those people. Im sure in a year or two, Genie Plus will be $100 a person, and people will STILL pay for it. @@DraconisLeonidas
I think this is the key point. It's not just that Disney Parks' profits are growing. They could theoretically get that result by gouging more money from a smaller pool of attendees. Despite how much people seem to complain, more and more customers keep going. My old coworker seems to visit WDW at least once a year. I told him at one point, "It's a nice place, but I can't justify going back because the prices are out of control." He replied by saying that was just part of the experience that you have to deal with. It's not just the people splurging for One Big Trip that are propping up the Disney theme parks. A lot of repeat customers really do just love it THAT much.
They're losing money long term. As a child/teen I used to go yearly but haven't been back in 7 years seeing how the prices just keep going up. I'm planning a trip this year but I know it's the only one I'll make for several years to Disney due to the cost. Instead my money has been going to six flags which I frequent way more often
What my European mind will never understand and accept is the single use plates and cutlery you can see at 6:06. You are dining in and this is what you get? It’s terrible how much trash this will produce. How difficult is it to have proper plates, steel cutlery and glasses?
Disney’s parks CEO stated that they plan to address parks over crowding by making the parks too expensive for some people. I think I will just take my money elsewhere
@@grobble8954 now why would you say something like that, are you that full of hate? If you are example of most people going to Disney then I am making a wise choice
@@denniss3980 Stop your bitching, It's a simple fact, if Disney was cheaper it would hit capacity all the time and be even more over crowded. Disney should be trying to raise prices even more. If they can make the same money with less people, thus make the experience better for those that attend. If you don't have the money to afford it, stop whining, don't go or get a better job.
It used to be very common for people from my country (Australia) to fly to the USA just to visit Disney. It was considered “do-able” albeit a bit expensive. These days it seems like everyone would rather visit Tokyo Disney, rather than the American ones.
@@MrGforce52 Tokyo Disneyland is the only resort that Disney doesn't operate. It's ran by the Oriental Land Company and the prices, while still expensive, are nowhere near as extortionate as any other Disney resort.
Last time I visited Disney in the spring of 2023, I found myself constantly thinking about the high costs of everything, such as $400 pajamas and $25 scrunchies. By the end of the day, instead of reminiscing about the fun I had, I was worried about the size of my credit card bill, even though I didn't buy much merchandise. On my way back to the hotel, it dawned upon me that despite being a Disney fan since childhood, I would rather try Universal Studios the next time. This realization came as a huge surprise to me.
@@yrbelite8450 I went with a friend to Universal Hollywood for Halloween Horror Nights, and it was a BLAST. Not cheap... it's a theme park of course but WAY more reasonable than Disney.
@@joshr6626 The express pass def makes it pricey. We did without and waited way too long to ride some things but with strategy we still rode everything we wanted that day. Def not so at Disney. :(
Going to Hong Kong Disneyland was like stepping back in time. No park reservation, we just showed up. The ticket was about $60 a person. Crowds were manageable. Food was theme park priced, but not outrageous. It was cheaper to fly there than it would be to spend a weekend at Disney World in a Disney Resort. :/
Prices fluctuate in regards to local wealth. Disney in NA has become an annual exodus for the rich, people on HK don’t have as much money nor are willing to spend as much.
I live in Orlando. Even worked for disney at one point. The Disney company brags about inclusivity and being family oriented, but they’re really money oriented. They’re pricing out the middle class. Now, only rich people and international tourists spending their life savings are welcomed.
Which is not a good business choice because there's a heck of a lot more non-rich people than there are the rich. Granted it's not like when I was a kid, either. Back then you only had to wait in line a half hour tops. Now you might be standing in line for 2 hours depending on the rides you're trying to get on.
@@WorldWalker128 Again, it looks like they are doing quite well from the business perspective. There is another question that comes to my mind in this case. Disney offers much worse experience for much more money nowadays and it is still massively overcrowded. Similar situation can be observed in other fields too. Take concert tickets, car prices, popular tourist places (whether the US or Europe), etc. All are so expensive while being overbooked, overwhelmed with crowds of tourists etc. People spend like there is no tomorrow, completely unsustainable.
I work at an economy motel in Hershey, PA. We’ve been busier than ever when Hersheypark is open bc instead of blowing 3 mortgage payments on a week at Disney they spend a few hundred bucks on a 3-4 day weekend in Hershey. And their prices have gone up too but it’s still affordable and you also get a water park and a zoo with the admission. Plus when you leave the park there are dozens of restaurants nearby that aren’t connected so you don’t pay park prices for a meal.
so you're telling me... I have to pay to get into the park THEN I have to pay for an app, THEN after I pay for an app I have to PAY FOR THE RIDE???? that's insane.
It's called a profit center. That is how the people behind Disney now think. They probably spend tons of times in meetings trying to figure out what they can make next a profit center.
Yup, you pay an entry fee, just to pay more money. And because everyone has to rely on the fast passes etc, your ONLY hope to not spend multiple hours in queues for single rides is to also pay for those passes. Then you have the situation where everyone has fast passes, so they have introduced a faster fast pass. It's nuts.
I remember about 10 years ago when my family was staying at the Disneyland Hotel, on our last night a cast member slipped a voucher under our door that let us stay another night for about $50 or so. Obviously it was a way to get us to buy another ticket for the parks but it was such a good deal that there is no way we couldn't have taken it. There is absolutely no way modern Disney would ever do something like that.
I had a cast member give me 4 Fast Passes because I had a nose bleed while cueing up for Space Mountain. It wasn’t even a bad nose bleed- I had them all the time. This was also at the time of paper fast passes. Yeah, modern Disney would never do that. Better yet, I’ll never forget the joy that families would have when my family would give away our paper fast passes on the days we park hopped.
I almost wanted to throw up about a dozen times while he explained prices. Especially being from Canada these prices are just insane when converted. I think alot of people should genuinely consider travellnig outside North America. There are incredible parks, activies, food, etc available all over asia for a fraction of the price even after paying for a plane ticket. Plus all this crowding at Disney Parks makes it a logisitical nightmare for most people.
True, but depend on which side of Asia you want, you have to deal with people mark upping the price just because you're a westerner and the language barrier.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Disney doesn’t mark up prices, and you just book hotels online. I’ve been to both HK and Shanghai Disney and you can go without being scammed as a white person (then people who may mark up are just selling cheap street food etc, and it’s still incredibly cheap anyway).
As a spouse of a former Disney corporate employee, we used our Siver Pass not only at DL but at WDW. Before we moved out of the country, we took the kids one last time in 2022. We were gifted two tickets by friends who still work for corporate. I know we never had to pay for day tickets, but we were shocked at how much it was for two park hoppers! $300!! We couldn’t have afforded a full day for our family of four! ONE DAY would be $600 just to get in, no parking, no special fast pass things, no food! I’m glad my now teens grew up going and have fond mementos because we’re never paying to go to Disneyland again.
What's even funnier is that even though they keep increasing prices, Tron was STILL sponsored by Enterprise as if Disney didn't have enough money to built it themselves or something
Jesus, at least back in the day when a corporation sponsored a ride, they had the decency to come up with something original. Now they fall back on marketable IP-name recognition anyway. Fuck corporate greed.
It’s hilarious isn’t it? Universal has never once done this in the last 20 years to my knowledge, yet put up significantly better, and more immersive arguably, attractions with less money, no sponsors and at 5x the speed. Almost like Disney doesn’t care at all anymore and is focused solely on their IP and streaming while parks take a backseat to cash flow.
there's no reason for them to improve the parks. despite living costs going up more than ever, people still spend money far beyond their means to go to places like disney for vacations. their reputation is such that no matter what they do, people are always going to go to the "happiest place on earth". it's always been simply about making the money number go higher, even though disney couldve easily footed the bill on pretty much everything they make, they still seek out sponsors since it's less of a liability for them@@patrickn8355
My husband side of the family LOVES going to Disney. Me, a third world country woman, think that disney is way to expensive, with 4k i can go back home and visit my country for a whole month, eat really good food, do bunch on activities and enjoy it more than spending all my day waiting in a line
It's crazy. My wife is Eastern European and was obsessed about going to Disney with our son until I showed her the cost. We were able to go to Hawaii for a month for less. Then two years later we went to Bali, Thailand and Vietnam all in one trip for a month for less than a Disney trip and I can DRIVE to Disney. We also live next to a major theme park (12 min drive) with better roller coasters and all similar kinds of things that Disney has and the season passes are like $150ea. The meal plans are like $200/yr and that gets you two meals a day every single day. Sometimes we go just to have lunch. I do want to find a way to take my son there but it will more likely be for a day or two and we'll stay far away from the park.
Same. My husband has memories of visiting Disney faithfully when growing up, and he wants to keep the tradition alive. I grew up poor, I refuse to pay thousands to have a horrible frustrating experience at an overpriced theme park.
I've just seen the mess Disney has made for itself with all the different fast pass systems and I'm just confused how they get it so wrong. But I understand they just want more money so they're willing to make everything feel worse so you pay for a barely acceptable experience
Same here. I live in Orlando and make decent money, but still don't feel like going. I grew up here and remember how it used to be not so long ago, so I get a little bitter at how it is now.
@@adamstrachn Same, I could afford it but I still just resent being nickel and dimed on attractions inside the park. The whole point of the fast pass was to reduce time in line to get people elsewhere in the park spending more. They’re just dinging customers both places now.
I work at disney for the last few years and I still remember something a guest told me on one odd my first few days in conversation. They had to save 5 years for week long trip , and it’s only getting worse. That made me feel so bad and really puts it into perspective
@@same5952I can understand why they would. If this is your dream vacation, then 5 years of saving to make it the best week of your life...well it's not a good option but it's really your only option.
Something I noticed off the top of my head, they probably could easily reduce capacity and improve service/wait times. But they won't since 60+ minute wait times means an average family can only average 3-4 rides a day MAX. Forcing you to stay longer + buy more food + more drinks + more merchandise etc
@@meganegan5992I believe OP is saying that could have reduced capacity by limiting how many people get in through ticket sales, but they won’t because they make more money by having stay longer
I was in Japan for several weeks this summer, so I decided to check out Tokyo Disney. I spent two days to check out each park, spent 3 nights at a 3rd party hotel that was onsite and still on the monorail line. Including food and transport to the resort from the city, the total trip cost about 58,000 yen or about 390 usd. That is nuts compared to the US.
The Oriental Land Company has been extremely hostile towards the recent changes at Disney! They are refusing to re theme splash mountain, and have been staunchly against the price hikes and anti consumer sentiment so I can’t say im shocked! Disney has been trying to fight them but thankfully their contract has helped OLC fight off these changes.
It's the same with Paris - tickets are included with the hotel price, which generally is around or under €200 a night. I've never been, so I'm no expert, but I think it's bc in the USA, Disney has legit political power in the areas where the parks are so they can pretty much do what they want, and there's not much chance of losing their customer base bc Disney adults are Disney adults. But in Europe and Asia, the parks are near capital cities, which have better tourist alternatives, other economic industries, and harder-to-manipulate local politics. They actually have to price competitively to get people through the door. I wonder how that will change now that Americans are apparently going to the cheaper international parks? Here's hoping they learn to appreciate the actual countries instead of the disney parks in them 😅
More Americans are going to the international parks than before, but it’s an extremely small percentage of the people visiting the US parks. I don’t think people going abroad will have any effect on how the US parks are run.
Disney then: Fastpass allows guests to experience more rides and do more activities! It benefits both us and them because they spend more money at our shops! Disney now: "Okay now hit the second formerly-free feature"
2 years ago, we stayed in a 2 bedroom bungalow on a beach in Fiji for 12 days. With all food, at least 1 excursion each day (zip lining, snorkeling, fishing, private island bbq, mud pools, several tours, transportation, flight and more) for $1,400 USD. It's a bummer cuz I love Disney, but I'd rather take a 2 week tropical vacation than waste all that money for 2 days at Disney.
That vacations sounds absolutely incredible! You've gotta be just uninformed or completely engrossed in Disney consumerism crap to choose two days at Disney world rather than two weeks anywhere else
@@Jodus_MacGotuss Oh, nice " consumerism crap" we term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS. "Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children! My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!) We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous! "Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy. "Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)" Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
DisneyLand property is owned by the British Crown..look it up. The money doesn't even go back into America. That is why no one ever unalives at Disney..it's Crown Land and the biggest secret ever.
That's a key point; my family was lucky enough to get to go every year for a little while when I was a kid, and while my parents knew it was pricey, they at least felt like they were always getting their money's worth - the staff always went above and beyond, the experiences were varied and had something to offer for the entire family (not just the kids or just fans of a particular property), etc. There's still stuff to like there now, but the experience itself is so much more harried and stressful, the perks that were there are being removed one by one, lines are longer not just because of crowds but because of the very "solution" Disney had proposed with Lightning Lanes, and even the staff, which often tries its best, is in such a tougher situation given how much worse corporate apparently treats them today as opposed to back in the 80s-early 00s. And they want us to pay 50% *more* for all of that.
@@jmn327Michael Eisner got a lot of hate in the 2000s for the way he ran the company. In hindsight, I think we were too harsh on the guy and didn’t appreciate him enough for what he did for the company.
@@karlstrauss2330 There's definitely a lot to legitimately criticize Eisner about, and I do think there's something to the argument that he was never quite the same once Frank Wells died. However, push comes to shove, Eisner at least came in as a guy who cared about the creative side of things, and still demanded a top-notch show, even though there were moments he screwed up big time (e.g. the end of the old EPCOT Center began under his watch, the EuroDisney early shakiness, the beginning of California Adventure, etc.). While he was far from perfect, I'd take his approach over the "Harvard MBA" approach of the Bobs, where you avoid risks, make tons of cuts, and jack up prices at every opportunity.
@@jmn327 I don't think Wells death had much to do with it, even before then he was running into problem's like the opening of Eurodisney not doing as well as anticipated.
No it would be stuffed with conservatives who value money over people. Disney isn’t the problem. The American healthcare system, monopolies and capitalism that refuses to make minimum wage on par with living costs is why you can’t afford Disney.
I was thinking about Disneyland and fell asleep, I woke up and it was the best Disney experience in my dream, there were no lines and most importantly it was all free.
Went to Disneyland once with my dad, stepmother, and 3 siblings. My dad was a blue collar truck driver, and told us we were driving to visit Great Grandma. Never ever would we have thought we were going to Disney. It's one of my favorite childhood memories, and would never have happened in this day and age. We were poor. But dad still managed to take 5 people to Disneyland for the day on his meager septic tank pump out pay. I wish kids like I was could have that one time experience, but 5 people on Disney's greedy pricing will never happen for poor kids. Walt would not be pleased.
My grandma likewise saved up her secretary salary to bring us kids there to have a childhood she never had in the depression. As a kid I loved Walt and felt he wanted to celebrate families and innocence. Now the company feels predatory in more ways than one. They've attached a feeling of disgust to their brand that is akin to adding vinegar to ice cream.
I would say other theme parks still exist, but those are all way too expensive too. Sometimes I wish we could just burn all the money in the world and make everything free. As a kid I always wanted that.
Hearing that you paid over $40 for the two of you to ride Tron absolutely killed any morbid curiosity I had about visiting these parks again. I can spend that money on a mid-price video game and actually get several hours of enjoyment out of it.
For $5K I'm going with my wife to the Maldives all inclusive for 2 weeks in December (their peak season). No lines and I may only look at my smartphone for the time of day.
@@slintisbased I see that the original comment I had replied to is now gone, which was much less friendly than it is now. I see the confusion with it, Dylan.
In 2010. I took my family of 5 to Disney. Stayed at Port Orleans riverside, had a dining plan and paid $2500. For 7 day passes for 5 people. We loved the port Orleans!!!! We loved our time!! We loved our dining plan!!! We loved our vacation!!! Fast forward ten plus years. Now, I am divorced, have another son who is now of Disney age, and just a weekend for the two of us is $3500 plus.I’m so glad my son is not into Disney like my older girls were!!!! Bc it’s just out of reach. And I won’t pay nearly $4k for a weekend at Disney for two people NOT including transportation nor food. Crowds during spring break was so heavy you couldn’t see your hand in front of your face. We waited over two hours for Kilimanjaro safari which was normal. But second time we went , we got in line at 5:45 and walked right thru and got right on the truck. To me these attractions are so old. I haven’t been to Disney since 2011 and most of these rides were old even then!!! Come on Disney!!! Stop just stop!!!!
And of course, Chris Provost made a good point about Genie+ causing the massive crowds in the walking areas throughout the day. Instead of people standing in ride queues for 30 mins or so in different locations, they're now all virtual queueing so are wandering around and making the crowd levels worse. Disney loves this because they are buying things while waiting for their virtual queue.
I don't think people get supply side economics, Disney is fine with losing a few guests, the remaining guests more than make up for their loss because they are willing to pay too much. This is the economic model for just about everything now, if you don't want to pay too much for rent, fine, be homeless. I have 4000 vacant apts in my neighborhood in Atlanta, they are still making more keeping them empty and charging people a supply side price they are willing to pay.
We went Oct, and what I hated the most were the strollers and wheelchairs. Too many of them. The waiting in line was very stressful. Our tickets cost us $900 and some dollars and that was a discount. Four parks, too. We will not be returning to Disney again. The second parade we were watching, it was so crowded. There was no control at all. God forbid if there was an emergency in the park. It took two hours weaving in and out of the tube's to get out of the park. Never again.
We did this exact same trip with a family of four with the same hotel. One thing I will say about not leaving the resort for food is you will have mud butt by day 2 and a half. Disgusting food.
@@noahziegler3478 when i visited orlando with my ex, we started each day by hitting up waffle house. Cost us way less money, and keeps you full well through the day, far better than wasting all your money at the parks.
Don't forget paying 43$ for whatever bulshit they call "priority line" for just one attraction, even though you already purchase the costly "priority pass" that work for every attraction except the ones you want to do. I'm giving this a hard pass and will bring my kids to Nintendo World instead. Because they're "slighly less" greedy.
This is what I find most interesting. I understand why families with lots of kids in different ages would rather do Disney than backpacking in the Alps, but I find it surprising that adults would love Disney so much that they would go with just friends or a partner. Go have fun in a real city! It's way better and half the cost!
Our family's sentiment exactly. We used to go a few times here and there, but haven't been back since 2018. The cost, value, and experience are far removed from what it used to be. Since that time, we have been all over the USA exploring some pretty amazing places. We went to Hawaii in November for a week, and was cheaper than a Disney trip. That says quite a bit right there. The nickel and diming of Disney World, and the aspect of being tethered to a phone the whole time to pay more on top of an already expensive park/hotel was simply no longer justifiable for us.
As a Florida resident, it's INSANE going to Disney. Remember even if you get the annual pass, which is almost 500 dollars now, you still need to spend money on the park, you get 'free parking" but you spend on gas, food, water, and god forbid a souvenir! I also worked for Disney and it was the worst experience ever!
We go to Orlando every other year. We used to do 3-5 days of leisurely Disney Park strolls, not worrying about what rides we went on, just enjoying the environment. Now we only do one day at the park, if any. Too expensive and too crowded even to just walk around. And the good food and relaxing spaces are now non-existent. You can’t even get a coffee and muffin when you enter the park without waiting on an hour long line. And there’s nowhere to sit. It’s like they removed all their benches and tables.
This is something I've seen in SO many places, they've removed places to sit and exist because that forces you to go into stores or cafes and pay to take a breather or keep get you out of there, its about pay or get out and jus squeezing every cent
You just answered this entire video. If prices were 2015, the parks would implode. Theyre raising prices because it simply cannot match demand. For some reason, maybe life sucks or the influx of kids looking to relive disney channel memories, the parks are filling up. If tickets were 800 a day, people would still go. This isnt a fault of the company, but their old pricing is just not sustainable for the demand it has
@@Undecided_ that is cope if I’ve ever seen it. They don’t need to be anti-consumer to deal with demand. It’s their park, they can choose to limit ticket sales per park per day if they want a specific capacity (like they did during covid). Even if they limited ticket sales AND raised the price of the base tickets, it would still be less anti-consumer than adding a ton of hidden fees to try to have an enjoyable experience.
@@seyi6295 it's not cope, it's literally basic capitalism. There's demand, it can't be filled, raise prices. In literal every sense of the word, Disney parks is a fantastic company, it's not make a wish. Don't like it, build your own park Capitalism at this stage is literally anti consumerist so idk what you want
Very revealing, as not the actual rides, just, "enjoying the environment'. You mean being able to actually walk around, without a car, and enjoy vendors and shops and interactions with other people? Like REAL towns USED to be built in America? As opposed to commuting, through car traffic, down your local six-lane, divided highway, with businesses on either side of the monstrosity?
I used to visit it by and large when I lived in California, one county away. But since I moved, not anymore. I am a day’s drive from the Magic Kingdom, but cannot afford to go.
I know you’re joking but this is a horrible analogy. Disneyland is probably the most turbonormie place on earth and genuinely well off people don’t visit Disneyland every month lol. They have their own horrible demographic.
@@JosieDrake1995 chill? You didn’t read “I know you’re joking”. So are you not joking? Do you really let Disneyland define your life so much you project it onto the entire rest of the US😭😭. I’m curious now has everyone you’ve met either been to or wanted to go to Disneyland? Because I guarantee that hasn’t been the case for me and the only people I see regularly going are people with young kids and Disney adults(worst people on the planet).
@@Shoegaze- I drew out an analogy further than it needed, there is genuinely no need for hostility. I don’t even have the desire to visit the parks and I find the whole mindset very alien. I visited a park one time when I was a toddler and I can barely remember the event
I experienced Disney Land for the first time in 2013, then I was 26. I was blown away. It was an awesome experience and I was amazed at the joy and helpfulness of staff members and just how controled the park was. It was crowded but no more than expected. I went back again with my family almost two years ago and it was truly a miserable experience. The cast members were grumpy, the park was kind of dirty and I had never seen it more crowded. We were essentially shuffling slowly everywhere we wanted to go. It was not a good time. I have had no desire to go back since.
Yeah i feel like this with disney world. Cant say ive been there pre covid - but disney world now seems to have workers who are a little grumpy, the people visiting the park are a little hostile and stressed. Was it always like that ?
@@Who_attackedFirst It's because every young person today is being told their life sucks and that all work is the slavery of capitalism. Forget doing your best and having a good attitude to earn your pay; instead, you are entitled to a life of free-everything and infinite happiness, and all employers are capitalist pigs who are forcing you to do work just to survive. Come to work with that mindset, and there's _no way_ you'd have a good attitude about anything.
This doesn't have much to do with the video's topic, but i stayed at the riverside hotel when i went to disney for the first time ever as a kid. I never thought it'd go to USA much less Disney, and I was extremely happy. The review of the hotel for some reason made me fight tears a bit... it's so nostalgic. I went to it only once and it was truly a magical experience for me. Seeing the rooms again made me so happy. I really had a good time there Anyways great video, sorry for the little story but i just wanted to share
Our family of 5 have been saving to go to Disney, we were taking steps to get passports when Covid hit in 2020! Fast forward to 2023, the last estimate I put together for our family, a 7 day trip with 3 at Disney was hitting $15,000 CDN. Our kids were old enough, 17/14/12, to talk through what this looks like and they would rather do 2-3 different trips for the cost of one Disney. Thank you for a great vid that puts things in perspective and confirms what I've found.
Our family was in the exact same situation. We felt so good about saving up, but when it came time to check prices, the collective disappointment was too much. We ended up buying off-brand lightsabers (which ended up being much better quality than what Disney sells) and we've never regretted it!
Disney in the US is an absolute nightmare in every way. I bring my kids to Disney Tokyo for their Disney fill. It's not run by Disney and it cheaper in every way. Public rail to the resort, the non-disney hotels are just as close, tickets cost less than half as much and all of the food is cheaper.
Honestly, Japan is just a better country in general lol. Everything's cleaner. People are so much nicer. It's so much safer. And it despite what everyone says, Japan is so much cheaper than the US. It's not Thailand but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.
As a native Floridian who grew up going to Walt Disney World (when it was cheaper than it is nowadays) The best time to go to the park is during hurricane season. I've been to Disney several times when a hurricane is going to hit the area and the park is almost deserted but all the rides, attractions, restaurants ext are still open. definitely a great time to go if you hate crowds and lines lol.
I grew up near a Cedar Fair park and had a pass there for a few years, and if the weather was inconvenient at all but not so bad it closed the rides, it was the best.
@@lexa_powerThe only cruise I’ve ever been on was a Disney Cruise during hurricane season! It did rain the day we stopped at Castaway Cay, but they stayed an extra day for us to be able to enjoy the island! To this day it’s the most relaxing vacation I’ve ever been on and I’ve nearly convinced my partner that it should be our next vacation.
When we lived in fla., we were always warned to "stay away from METAL" of all kinds, during tornados or hurricanes? We had friends who shoed horses and rebuilt their automobiles; THEIR kids had so much fun they never even ASKED to go to Disneyland! FIX IT SHOPS AND HORSES can be educational AND fun. Look up above your comment; Those who visited Disneyland in TOKYO saved allot of money! With all of their profits and land purchases evident, you'd think they could have provided a WAITING ROOM WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES for those people instead of CRAMMING them all in to suffer! Welcome to the new America; Charge more, provide less, make profits your goal! The Disney of the 70's was great as it was, but then EVERYTHING gets expanded upon to make money to be followed ? Perhaps if the space aliens could come here to intervene before mankind shoots itself dead in the foot, there could be hope. WE pray if Walt can "return to us " someday, he could design a BIG ANTI WAR MACHINE for us! Ha, I guess enjoying riding you own little Shetland pony would have not incited enough excitement and would have required skill?! Better to dream of mice that talk and bears that are stuffed, and rockets that soar in the air and kill people, right ? If Disney had KEPT designing more rides LIKE The "Pirates of the Carribean,", and "displays with dissertations" such as, i.e. like, the Abe Lincoln speech, it seems more of Walt's ORIGINAL IDEAS might have continued successfully! "This world, That world,"and expansions etc. may not have done allot to help "educate children" as Walt had thought! (Just my opinion regarding "education versus entertainment!) Of course it DID successfully provide more JOBS for employees! One former commenter said " consumerism crap" WE term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS. "Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children! My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!) We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous! "Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy. "Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)" Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children in Spanish, French & Italian with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
I have been to Disneyworld 4 times over the years. The last time I went- about 10 years ago (@ 58 years old). This was the first time technology on phones applied. It was very confusing then, and seems like even more confusing now! And the prices are outrageous. It was one of my favourite places to go, but because of the changes, I will never go again.
I am one of the original Disney kids. My first trip to Disneyland was in 1955, and I got to see Walt Disney himself invite us into the park. I watched The Magical World of Disney change from B&W to color. When Walt's vision for Disney World opened, I was there with my family. I attended many times afterward. Walt's vision was for all children to have the opportunity to see and believe in an alternate world that emphasize all that was good in the world. Disney is now run by scalpers and traitors to Walt's original vision. Disney could care less about the children of the world and certainly left all that is good in the world at the front door of the bank. Larry from Texas
If the vision was for "all children" to do this, why wasn't it a charity? Why is Disney publicly traded, now, and why is the Disney family going to be wealthy for generations to come on the backs of that profit? Why not donate the company, on his death, to a foundation that would achieve that vision if that was his real dream? Poor kids, even just poor American kids, have never had access to this stuff. It was only ever magic for some kids, while they told you that it was for "all kids" to make it so that you'd feel better about doing it. It was always about money, you just used to be part of the class that counted as having enough money to matter.
@@Nassifeh I'm not sure I implied that Disneyland was not a business. For Walt to build Disneyland, he had to have revenue. If you read the history of how he accomplished this, you will know that he used everything but his firstborn for collateral, and even then, his financial success was in doubt. No one, at least to my knowledge, can create something as grand as Disneyland without sufficient funds, which in most cases means creating a business. His dream of providing something for the children wasn’t something that sold well on Wall Street. You could say that Walt only saw dollar signs when he built Disneyland, but his initial success was very much in doubt. Some even referred to it as Walt’s folly. Walt wasn't an absentee owner; he put his blood, sweat, and tears into building Disneyland. It was through the sheer force of Walt’s will that Disneyland became a success. In Walt’s own words, the inspiration for Disneyland was during his trip to Europe when he visited Tivoli Gardens. Walt had a lifetime love for amusement parks, but Tivoli Gardens took this to a new level. Understanding Disneyland's business model is vital to appreciating its financial journey. Building Disneyland was a massive undertaking that required significant financial support. But the financial needs didn't end there. Once Disneyland was established, it had to maintain its services and plan for future growth. This was a testament to Walt Disney’s innovative vision and commitment to creating a unique theme park experience for families. If Disneyland were a charity, it would not have lasted very long. Charities operate on a different business model, and innovation and growth usually are not part of that model. Charities depend on gifts and donations, which would never have been enough to support Disneyland. The inspiration for Disneyland and the financial success are two different things. Part of Walt’s success was with the support of his family and friends. Why wouldn’t they benefit from its success? After all, Walt and his backers took considerable risks in building Disneyland. What is wrong with financial security? I should point out that the complaints against Disney do not attack Walt or his success. The atmosphere of greed has become a part of Disney’s board of directors and stockholders. This may eventually come to bite them in the financial butt. Disney’s success with amusement parks depends heavily on people visiting the park. If it becomes too expensive, people will either not visit, or if they do, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime visit. In the days when it was somewhat reasonable to attend one of Disney’s properties, families would visit on multiple occasions. This develops a form of brand loyalty. It is true that Disney doesn’t have a specific program for low-income families, but there is a list of things that can make a visit more affordable. The items on this list are too many to make a part of this conversation, and I’m sure they would not meet your approval for financial equity. This is a subject for another post. There is much more to say about this, but my fingers tire. Let me finish with your assessment of me and my “class,” as you put it. My family came out of the Depression, where people were lucky to have enough to eat. My Granny was forced to quit school after the 7th grade to provide income by working. At one time, she picked cotton alongside our black neighbors, but being of a fair Irish complexion, she frequently passed out due to the intense Sun. We were considered “Poor White Trash” simply because we did not have money. Back then, the opportunities for bettering your financial means were limited. When I first visited Disneyland, my father was in the Navy and made little money. My spinster aunt did have a good job working for the Air Force, and she contributed to our ticket purchases. However, no one in my immediate or extended family could be considered wealthy, and certainly, we did not qualify to be part of any class except the poor class. Disneyland, while not being cheap, was obtainable. Larry from Texas
Wow. I remember paying just over $300 for the Premium Annual Pass. I was a passholder for several years from around '96 - '02. All the theme parks, water parks, Pleasure island and even parking all included. First in line at any character restaurant. Discounts at any Disney Store. Discounts for any on property resort stay. Then, little by little the prices for everything went up, perks kept disappearing and quality and fun started declining. Haven't been in over a decade now. haven't missed it.
so, $1200 of income pre-tax? and how much sales tax? probably more tax than gets paid by the corporation and its officers. "fiscal conservatives" say "don't feed the beast". man, WE ARE THE BEAST
Find when the park is least crowded (early September for example), stay at a value resort , don’t buy genie+ and it all works out to much cheaper. Skip the snacks and table service meals too. They add up quickly.
@@finleythegolden2909 sure... or just go actually enjoy yourself somewhere else. unless "disney magic" makes it worth depriving yourself of anything else. not for me. GO TO KNOEBELS!!!
Imagine going to a store 5 minutes before it closes and complaining about getting bad customer service and being rushed to get what you need and go. that's essential to what they did, that is to say, they did it wrong.
We went to Disneyworld a few years back, and our biggest take away was that, for the "happiest place on earth", EVERYONE looked stressed and miserable. It was overly expensive, severely over crowded, stifflingly hot, there were no places to rest or sit, and other customers were all single minded and selfish, meaning that you had to have your guard up the entire time. We had exponentially more fun at the Universal parks.
Even though I really had a great experience at universal, I still don’t know why a lot of people say that universal studios has gotten way better than disney, when it’s equally expensive and crowded af as Disney. At the end of the day, both set of theme parks are great in their own way, and which is one better comes down to personal taste and preferences of attractions
Exactly. Universal is half the price and to me you get a better experience there then Disney. corporate greed has run wild at Disney. The movies that they’re putting out are not bringing in the revenue that they used to so they’re trying to make it up with the parks.
I remember reading a few years back that Disney intentionally raised prices to limit the number of people who can afford to go. This was their solution to overcrowding
Six flags did the same thing, even said they wanted to attract the kind of visitor who would spend more money in the park, which to me sounds a lot like "hey there're to many poor's in our park"
Well that can be a valid strategy. Holidays on the Maledives are exceedingly expensive for the exact same reason. In Singapore, not just driving, but even owning a car is so crazy expensive that they never have traffic congestion. The fact that this approach disadvantages poor people is of course an entirely different topic...
This vlog hit home because the last time my family of 6 went to Disney was in 2017 also. I can’t get over how greedy they have gotten over the last years. You are 100% correct, it’s just sad. I’m a little angry but mostly just sad like you said. It’s not how Disney was or how it was supposed to ever be. Thanks again!
I feel like Disney is banking on people often having that “hey kids we saved up for a once in a lifetime Disney World trip” where they aren’t going often, so they assume it’s inflation rather that price gauging. They don’t have many prior experiences to compare to, so they don’t know better. It’s so sad, takes away from the Disney magic.
I doubt that this is so. It is far more likely Disney would prefer repeat customers. At Disney World, they clearly simply do not have the capacity. It is not price gouging because the price structure is necessary to maintain the basic premise of the park- that you can get tickets without a 3 year wait and have access to at least most of the attractions you want. If the prices were cheap as demand increases, the lines would become endless, the crowding insufferable, and simply being able to get into the park at all extremely hard for most people. There's no "Disney Magic" in that experience either.
Disney is bleeding billions with streaming, the Disney channel and movies so I assume the park prices are one way they make up the costs instead of just improving quality. It's maddening knowing you can go to some of the most beautiful places on the planet for the same price or less.
@@ImReadyD151 It has nothing to do with "PC Agenda" no matter how much you tell yourself that. You see, most reasonable people aren't bothered by it. Unless they live in DeSantistan...
@@ImReadyD151 I couldn't agree more. They keep pandering to a non existent audience and pushing away everyone else. They scream about conservatives, men are bigots and whatnot, but it's everybody at the end of the day. The numbers prove that.
@@ImReadyD151”pc agenda” isn’t the real issue it’s more of a symptom. I’m sure you’ve seen at least one good movie or show that had a genuinely compelling character that fits that demographic. The real problem is out of touch studios listening to writers who don’t care about the source material they are adapting.
I live in Orlando and I remember a time not too long ago when Florida residence could buy a season pass for a year and get a free one with it. Even if you didn’t have a pass, there was usually a discount for Florida residents. Now there is absolutely nothing.
I think you answered your own premise. If its gotten "too expensive" its because there are STILL huge crowds and demand, until that changes, don't expect the prices to do anything but go up. That reminds me of the Yogi quote about nobody going to a restaurant because its too crowded. The park is now made for rich families with kids, not like it used to be, and any "normal" person that goes there will get sticker shock.
When they opened, Disneyland cost ~$10 to get in, this included the entrance and about 10 ride tickets. Walt Disney's intent was to build a marvelous place where middle class families could bring their children for an affordable vacation.
It reminds me of that scene in Jurassic Park where the lawyer says "we can charge whatever we want and people will pay it." and John Hammond responds "but I want everyone to visit Jurassic Park, not just the super-rich". At some point, Disney stopped listening to the John Hammonds and started listening to the bloodsucking lawyers.
Honestly, it's baffling to me that people don't understand this. It's a business, and there are people willing to pay whatever for their product(even if they don't have the money). A business will push up their prices both to make money AND reduce demand to help create lighter crowds/even out demand throughout the year.
@@bmcclure3atgatech Right, but they don't HAVE to. Costco, by contrast, charges less than they have to for a lot of their products, such as hotdogs, to maintain customer loyalty. As a result, I have a large portion of my retirement savings invested in Costco, and zero retirement savings invested in Disney. Ask me how my portfolio has done over the past five years.
I FULLY agree-100%. Mr Trump even recommended the same thing (not for disney). The problem is this is a cuntry of 300 million people living together that all hate each other. So we would never get any kind of unity.
I’m gonna be honest, I do not understand people’s fascination with Disney… it is depressing to me that in just a decades time, Disney can double the cost of staying at their resorts and going to their parks and people just don’t care at all and keep going in droves. It would cost a family of 5 like $15 grand to go to Disney for a week these days. That’s like 1/3 of what the average american takes home in a year, blown in 1 week. Just to be hot, standing in queuing lines for 90+ minutes with screaming children, and the privilege to view overpriced Disney merch. Just, why. All people do these days is complain about the economy and inflation and yet Disney is at record attendance.
It's pure nostalgia at this point. People either have never been there (but heard about it all their lives) or they went there 10+ years ago when it was still a pretty enjoyable place to be. Was it 'cheap' back then? No, but it was much more 'all inclusive' than it is now. They've managed to find ways to suck every last dime out of their guests, while offering less and less 'included' items and promos. Eventually, I think they'll start to see a slow down, as the Disney product itself gets more mediocre and the competition (Universal is coming hard for them with their own parks and IPs) gets better.
I remember that even as at 7 y/o in the early 2010 I thought "this place suck and doesn't worth the money" I never managed to see the "theme park magic", even as a child
American are horrible at managing money and taking responsibilty for there own actions. No i't is not social media fault for your over spending. I love how they seem to think boomer had everything given to me. You should of seen the dump I was staying in when I was in college in TX and paying $600.00 and had no air conditioning. That was a fun summer. Then interest rate were twice as high as now. I ended up joining the Army because I could not find a teaching job. Now day states are begging people to become teacher. They talk about how people could afford thing in the 1950, but we do not live even close to that life style anymore. I am going to pick on women because I am one. But in the 1950's only 7% of women colored there hair. Today is is 75%. If you are having someone color you hair every 6 weeks at $150.00 a pop that come to about $1300.00 a year. Well 10 years that is $13,000.00. So over your lifetime, stuff like daily $15.00 on lunch take-out can really add up. Two of the biggest waste of money is going out to eat and buying bottle water. Bottle water is just filter tap water. All this crap we buy also has to end up somewhere. So we are destroying our Earth buying things that might make use happy for like 5 minutes. Also in the 1950's most women used a little lipstick, rouge and eyeliner. Today the average American women will spend $350k on make-up over there lifetime. In the 1950 the average new home was 950sq ft. Today it is 2400sq ft. Most families in the 1950 had one TV, today 75% of American homes have 3 TV set or more. Even when you could afford things you did not just buy a new one. You saved the money instead. You learned to save because everyone remember how the depression was and how thing can change. In the 1950's the average women had 3 pair of shoes and one to 2 pair of boots (rain and snow boots) Today the average women has 22 pairs of shoes. People did not just replace things because they were discolored or looked old. Also people live though the depression and during WW2 every thing was strictly ration and almost everyone knew of someone serving. After going though 15 year of that just having some sense of normal was a welcome gift. . So much is about perspective. I grew up looking at picture of my Mom in publoc school in GA and she and her sister were the only kids who had shoes. In fact she talked about how one year her parent paid so all the kids coukd get toothbrushes and toothpaste and the teach had to give a lesson because most of the kids never had one or seen anyone use one. But people need to wake up and see what the conservatives have in store for us by looking at what has and is happening in Great Britain today. The 15 years of conservatives economy has ruin the place with there huge cut to deal with the deficit they never fixed ( but cut social program by 40% over the last 10 years) and there" Britain first" with leaving the EU ruin there trade and been a total distaster. You do not improve things by just poping out a nice slogen and basically make it harder and more expensive to trade with your biggest trade partner and call it a sucess. In fact people in Hungry on average are making 10,000 pound more a year on average today then people in GB. That would be unheard of 15 years ago. They basically let every thing fall apart and and neglated everything so they cannot even maintain services like delivery because they let the road ect go. . When no one shops then the jobs go. Basically because the government just cut funds down to nothing and infrastructure has been totally ignored these small town look like they are back in the 1950's. GB had a lot harder time recovery after WW2 then we did. Meanwhile the deficet stand because they gave the rich a huge tax cuts instead of dealing with. Well that is the Republican plan also. If they had there way they would not even want publoc schools or affordable healthcare. Meanwhile while we get distracted over prayer in school or what books children can read ( basically personal choice politician should keep there noses out of) those politican pushing this crap are doing so, so you do not notice they are not governing for the people and instead kissing up to their biggest donors. Sort of like Sen Ran Paul and when the Senate first talk about getting rid of Tic Tox. Well Sen Paul shut that down. Why? Well his biggest donor who gave him lile $1.3 million in donations and owns 13% of tixtox stock sold in the USA asked him to shut down the discussion if he keep wanting to get donations. But that sound honest and no curroption hear. Yet I bet people just vote for him. American need to find out who there politician get there money from and how it effect their voting. This is open information and people need to be doing 10 min of research before they vote instead of just voting by party. Yep there is some bad Democrats also. Like this mayor out of Haywood IL. That women is so corrupt. But if we the people want this place to be run by the people we need to do better on watching who makes our laws. Also the laws that effect you the most are the state laws and local. Not the federal laws. 95% of your problem that are government related are going to be at the state or lower levels. Meaning if your state suck, that does not mean the rest of the country does and thus the feds have nothing to do with it. American would do themselves a huge favor knowing what and who is responsible for what in there country. The President is not responsible for your street flooding. That is the city. But every dictorship happens because people at the bottom think there lives will get better. Well remember they can get 100 time worse and many time it is better to be grateful for what you have.
@@fruity4820Year it is probably best for kids from 5 to 10 years old. Before 5 years old they will have fun but not really remember it. After 10 years the kids might be good for a day but would probably be bored with the ride ect. With all these complex video games and stuff it can be harder to impress the kids today. But to me going the the MN state is more fun. If you get you ticket a few days before they open it is like $10.00 for all day. $100.00 is going to give you enough food and rides to be thoughly sick and ready to go home. They also have were they have a lot of free parking a few miles from the fair ground and have free shuttlee to the gate. They come like every 15 min. Then every year they have new stuff and it is always fun to check out the animals. But if I had kids Disney would be a once in a lifetime trip because we would only do it once😂. I would rather take my kids on a 4 day Carribbean cruise and see some of the world.
My parents met while working the Canadian international program at Epcot during the 80s, and they returned to WDW for their 30th anniversary in 2023. Even with that insane nostalgic connection, and even after leaching off of friends who still work at and around the parks for freebies and discounts, they were flabbergasted at how much they spent in comparison to family trips they took during the 2000s and 2010s. Their main takeaway was that they're much more likely to vacation elsewhere. They told me that if Disney can't keep a couple like them who have sentimental history with the parks as loyal customers, how is Disney going to expect continued loyalty from anyone? The pull will eventually wear off as the price tag keeps rising with little improvement to show for it.
They don't need loyal customers. There are hundreds of millions of future tourists to the US who will go and millions of upper class families who reside in the US who can easily afford all the add-ons.
@@aoe4_kachow this is the answer. They don't care about retention, or quality or giving customers value because theres always that family whos never gone and are willing to drop 15-20k on their Disney world vacation.
@@aoe4_kachow People thought the MCU was too big to fail just a few years ago, too, and I reluctantly believed them at that time. Now I know better than to underestimate just how much a negative reputation can chip away at a brand. It may take years though since some people need to experience the disappointment of modern WDW themselves to know how bad it is.
I went to the Magic Kingdom Feb 13th for the first time in 10 years. I didn't go until 4PM and was surprised to learn that they no longer had the discounted tickets if you were at a Disney resort for a conference. Then I went straight to Tron to ride, but I had to ask the employee which line I take. She said, "do you have a paid reservation or a free one?", and I told her I didn't have a reservation. She then told me"I'm sorry but you won't be riding today". I love the parks, but I feel like they have gotten to where there main objective is how much money they can get from each guest.
Actually turning you away from ride is what Disney WANTS The less rides you get to do in a day, the more tickets you'll have to buy for a CHANCE to ride them the next day Disney has learned that keeping lines as long as possible makes them more money Stay away from Disney
This is something super common with themed parks, sadly. I live near a big park and the amount of money visitors spend is astounding. I used to work in a hostel nearby and people were genuinely excited to go (many came from other countries too), until they returned in the evening and told me how much they spent and how little they enjoyed the place. A family of four spent 100 euros for "skip line" tickets and despite that they waited hours to get to the rollercoaster, to me it's insane and also sad, since the park used to be super affordable and fun once...
It's amazing how many people are willing to put up with the lines at all. It's kind of insane...considering you're paying a hundred dollars a person just to get in the door and get the chance to stand in those lines. But it's unavoidable, I guess.
The reason the tron ride is operates this way is because the parks are way too crowded…it would have a waiting line across all of Tomorrowland. When the reservations open on the app at 7am, you have about 10-15 seconds to opt in or all reservations are given out for the day. The parks are less fun because they’re too crowded
My dad worked for Disney World for 10 years and when Covid hit in 2020 they said he would be able to come back eventually but he eventually got laid off. They waited months to even tell my dad about it. I would have never gone to the parks my whole life as a kid if my Dad didn’t work there. Even when I was a kid in the 2000’s it was too expensive for my parents to pay out of pocket. Compare it to now and the prices are astronomically high. Disney does not want the working class to be able to afford Disney anymore. They have shown this with getting rid of free fastpasses and implementing Genie+ I used to love Disney but they lost my respect.
I feel like, no matter how much we lie and kid ourselves, there will always be a love for Disney as an arthouse- the bold, the brave, the beautiful. Disney as a corporation, ever since... well, depends who you ask; for a while now, they have trampled over the image of the art. Now, even the art has become formulaic, dull, and predictable. As much as I hope for another Renaissance to give the creatives some breathing room, we can't count on luck. Such is life. ...On the bright side, at least Universal's Orlando parks are still vaguely affordable, even if they are premium.
My mom wanted to take me to Disney World for my senior graduation, since we’d be nearby. It wasn’t until I walked in on her in TEARS because she was barely getting by saving up enough money for the trip that I realized how bad it was. I had to convince her that it was okay if we didn’t go and we’d still have fun in Florida, because I just couldn’t bear to see my mom stress herself over something so obviously predatory. Screw you Disney, for ruining my favorite franchises and your outrageous prices.
I live in California, and Disneyland is incredibly expensive, it’s clear that Disney doesn’t care about customers only cares about the money! Which is why I can’t recommend it to to the average consumer!
We had to pay several hundred dollars for ONE day, ONE park for two people. As native Europeans visiting Florida it was a real turn off. Sure those monorail are cool the first time you see them, but prefer going to Disneyland Paris. Still expensive, but not as outragious as Florida.
Also, go for Thanksgiving, and pray for lousy weather. 🤣 I wasn’t happy with Disney World 20 years ago, the fast pass helped, but the magic is precious little. I would never pay for their overpriced streaming or anything else, what a waste of time. Life’s too short for global finance’s embracing tech BS, making life tedious scraping every dime off, it’s work, not a vacation. I’ll take horses in Banff.
I just got back from Disney World this week. My 65 y/o parents said without help they’d never be able to navigate the park, dining, lightning lane, etc. Crowds and lines were insane and we hurried to leave before the fireworks so we wouldn’t get stuck. It was an experience. I’m not sure yet how I feel.
trust me as a Florida native who had to go to a Disney field trip every single year you won’t get stuck from the fireworks just wait for the first wave of people to go by it takes like 5 minutes, it’s pretty worth it to watch especially if you traveled from another state or country
My last 6-day-vacation to France was about the same price as that one day at Disney. And I stayed in a very nice vacation house, explored a real castle, and ate great French cuisine the whole time. And I had my peace and quiet, there were no crowds, the longest wait was in the bakery on the weekend, perhaps 10mins. It's insane to spend that much money on one (or two) days, there's not even merch included. And paying thrice for one ride? Goodbye!
@@dsjjmv7546 Not really, you can find affordable rooms in hotels or guesthouses as well - keep in mind it doesn't have to be a 5-star one in a big city. If you stay at one of the small towns on the coast and not the more popular destinations like Nice, Cannes, Marseille etc, it's a lot more affordable. Also if you go off-peak it's cheaper. And for Southern France it's great - mid-summer is way too hot there anyway, but you can get good deals for a holiday in May or September when it's still nice and warm.
I can't think of a single reason why I would want to visit this tawdry amusement park at any cost. This isn't corporate greed anymore. It's an obscene gluttony!
We had friends who shoed horses and rebuilt their automobiles; THEIR kids had so much fun they never even ASKED to go to Disneyland! FIX IT SHOPS AND HORSES can be educational AND fun. Look up above your comment; Those who visited Disneyland in TOKYO saved allot of money! With all of their profits and land purchases evident, you'd think they could have provided a WAITING ROOM WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES for those people instead of CRAMMING them all in to suffer! Welcome to the new America; Charge more, provide less, make profits your goal! The Disney of the 70's was great as it was, but then EVERYTHING gets expanded upon to make money to be followed ? Perhaps if the space aliens could come here to intervene before mankind shoots itself dead in the foot, there could be hope. WE pray if Walt can "return to us " someday, he could design a BIG ANTI WAR MACHINE for us! Ha, I guess enjoying riding you own little Shetland pony would have not incited enough excitement and would have required skill?! Better to dream of mice that talk and bears that are stuffed, and rockets that soar in the air and kill people, right ? If Disney had KEPT designing more rides LIKE The "Pirates of the Carribean,", and "displays with dissertations" such as, i.e. like, the Abe Lincoln speech, it seems more of Walt's ORIGINAL IDEAS might have continued successfully! "This world, That world,"and expansions etc. may not have done allot to help "educate children" as Walt had thought! (Just my opinion regarding "education versus entertainment!) Of course it DID successfully provide more JOBS for employees! One former commenter said " consumerism crap" WE term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS. "Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children! My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!) We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous! "Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy. "Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)" Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children in Spanish, French & Italian with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
But see....its not DISNEY'S fault! It's the herd of sheep that GO AND SPEND on these parks! Let's get real! IF YOU had a chance to over charge people over and over for a product and get insanely rich.....YOU WOULD DO IT IN A HEARTBEAT! If you wanna blame something...blame capitalism, nostalgia, desire to please your family! It's a BUSINESS! I don't go to DISNEY anymore...it feels like chore!!
@@roberthouston3809 I don’t think I would, Robert, but I’m not in that position to say for sure. I can say I haven’t purchased anything Disney for more than 30 years!
Bright Sun Travels was included as part of a CNBC segment regarding Disney World. The segment showed that since 2014, the price of a 1 day ticket was up 56%. Comparatively, consider that inflation since 2014 has increased 32%. The annual visitation rates each year from 2020 through 2023 are still lower than any other year prior to Covid going back beyond 2013.
what really pisses me off is Disney artificially increases the wait time by holding stand by guests to force people to purchase Lightning Lane, I've witnessed this numerous times, as CM made us wait even though there was no one in the LL line up
Exactly. Last time i went i was stood in the lane for river rapids and they were letting about a hundred people on the fast lane before they let anyone in the regular. You have to pay extra to be allowed to ride. To not have to wait 2 hours for one ride, Total bs. Never giving disney a penny of my money ever again
What's sadder about this? It's not only your opinion, it's just straight up cold consequences. Ride capacity is always fixed. So if you distribute more lightning lane like nothing tomorrow, you'll sacrifice the standby line quota so much and hold it so long, basically turns it into worthless choice. The only thing that can alleviated it are either build new ride (expensive) or just back to basic paper fastpass (disney hate it)
I think back in the FastPass days you would get four Pass parties to one Standby party. Now with Lightning Lane the disparity -- depending on ride load -- is anywhere from fifty or one hundred to ONE standbye party. The frustrating thing is that it's totally justifiable. It sucks if you're in standby, no doubt, but imagine paying $100 for your five-person family to get on the ride and still having to wait 60 minutes. Not that I think this should be happening-- FastPass was a wonderful solution to the problem that had crowd control built in to its ticket distribution, and it was *free*. They completely broke the system in search of turning a quick buck. The worst part is that it seems to be working for them.
My husband hates, hates HATES crowds. The one time we went? October, 2001. People were still scared of flying because of Sept 11th. We got in and found no lines anywhere at all. We rode Space Mountain 19 times in a row.
Went on a big Disney trip back in February 2022. The experience was miserable. Crowded, a million steps to do something as simple as get food, barely got on any rides. The next year, we booked a week-long cruise to Alaska. It cost only a little more than just the PARK TICKETS from the Disney trip, had way better food (complimentary!), incredible service, and was just a much better experience overall. I remember visiting Disneyland fondly as a kid, but I wont be back.
Agreed. WDW is just not affordable for the medium class family, whereas cruises are way more affordable. The included 3-5 course meals that you get on the ship and the places that you explore is way more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I used to work at WDW in 2018 and it is nice, but not at these prices they are charging nowadays. These prices are too high.
Notice how your first complaint is that it was crowded. Those people all paid the same price you did. If Disney raises prices and stayed crowded why would they lower them?
@@thej3799 -- This is a travel and entertainment company that we're talking about, not a utilities or pharmaceutical company. Disney isn't being greedy; its customers are being suckers.
Since I have not been to Disney since around 2010, this was a very eye opening video. A few comments... First, I was frustrated, sad and angry all at the same time as you and Emmy went through the park...a park that had way too many people. This made me think that there should be some kind of limit to how many guests are allowed, particularly at busy times like Christmas. I recall the park closing to additional guests a few years back due to overcrowding. I am not sure how this can be addressed since people book these vacations, months and longer ahead of their trip. There are limits to character breakfasts and shows that are booked in advance, so maybe the whole place needs to have advance booking. This brings me to my next observation/ thought. I paused your video at the different park passes. There were 4 options, and 3 of them were for Florida residents only, and the Incredi-pass, the most expensive, being the only one for out of state people. Those costs are unreal... as is a one day pass for a park. I think the last time I went the one day pass was maybe $75/80 per person. As far as the rides go, damn, that Genie pass and the extra Lighting Lane thing sound like they made something that was easy with the (FREE) fastpass unnecessarily, overly complicated. Not only does it cost money, but to add cost for new or popular attractions? Are they f**king kidding? I have been to Disney 3 times, and enjoyed each time, but it seemed that the crowds were always excessive, as well as wait times. But we went back. Your video showed a continuation of this phenomenon. Even through times of recession, people still keep shelling out the money to go to a theme park. Many people really CAN'T afford these trips, but find ways to charge them, or put the payments on hold. To me this shows fake prosperity, giving the impression that everyone is shelling out cash as if their wealthy and can do such on a whim, or through some planning. But, really, many people are being buried by vacation debt. I know it's a real thing because I have friends who are on that sinking boat. ...Jake, Very thorough and detailed as always. Emmy looks only partially thrilled. :)
As someone who was born and grew up in Kissimmee (very close to Disney), I'm baffled how greedy Disney has gotten. My mom was able to get the park hopper pass for all of us, including food, necessities, etc. for the amount that you paid during this trip. It's heartbreaking. I haven't been to Disney since 2017. They really lost my respect after they took away the annual passes, then destroyed Pleasure Island just to build Disney Springs (which is a mind-boggling expensive outlet).
Our family of three quit going to Disney in 2019. For all of the same reasons that you stated in your video. Like you we were family pass holders and fell for all the Disney traps. After the wife and I sat down and did real accounting of our Disney Vacations, like you, we started to compare the accounting with other trips. Since then no more Disney for us, we are traveling around the world and for a lot less money then ANY of the Disney trips from 2008 to 2019. We are heading to London for week this year and can't wait. Get out and see the world people! Its more fun and you will save lots of money.
My next vacation will be a late fall 2024 road trip to Savannah, Georgia. My daughters and I will stay in a wonderful hotel, visit beautiful city parks and historic sites, and dine in amazing restaurants for a fraction of the cost of a Disney vacation. Disney World is so overpriced and is so yesterday.
Yeah you can tour most of europe for roughly the same price. And see a lot more and learn a lot more and probably have much better memories. Six Flags is a better deal anyway.
For context the last time I went was in 2016 when I was 12, so I didn’t have to worry about prices obviously. But now as an adult, I’d literally never go back unless they change their ways. But even if I was super rich I still wouldn’t go because this place is a woke cesspool and I hate the political hill they insistently choose to die on at every chance they can get. Boom 🤣💀
Go To Universal Studios, They Really Want To Please The Guest To Make Sure They Return... Disney With Their Woke Trash Movies And Now Milking Their Parks For The Most Money A Person Could Ever Spend In A Day, To Recoup From Their Box Office Failures, That's The Reason Disney Parks Are So Expensive, BECAUSE THEIR MOVIES ARE BAD
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Excellent video with well thought out points. Kind of reminds me of former smokers who decide to take another puff and then realize, nah, it's not worth it or as good as it used to be. lol
Congratulations on wasting your money
OMG 😱
I really feel Disneyland is so cheap.
I think you should do a video simply titled "Disney has gotten too expensive" since every experience you've had can be summed up in that one sentence. Same can be said for their movies in 2023 which flopped hard despite billions of dollars spent on them.
The virtual line pass is ridiculous. My family and I drove 14 hours to Florida to go to universal studios and that was the only way to ride Hagrids. We tried all day and could never get a pass so my brother and I along with our kids went to guest services to talk. We pretty much had to stomp our feet until they gave us one. Not very fun.
Disney doesn't care because people pay.
This is it. People can complain all they want. But Genie+ sells very well. On busy days, it sells out. The hotels are as full as they've ever been, from value to DVC villas. People buy tons of merch, snacks, and meals. Ticketed events like holiday parties sell out way in advance. Yeah it's crazy expensive, and IMO predatory (see Jake's comment on Genie+ maybe being worth it for the one-time family vacation), but as long as people continue to reliably pay, it will only get worse.
Best way to save money at theme parks in general. STOP!!!! BUYING ALL THE STUPID ADD ONS. People complaining about the prices are the same ones that'll eat at a terrible Disney restaurant with trash food vs eating at a local restaurant. People need to stop encouraging what they supposedly want to stop
Yep. People no longer bat an eye at seemingly small “add ons” on their phones. And people are putting everything on credit nowadays anyways. Society is getting out of hand
They did lose over a billion dollars on that stupid Star Wars hotel…..I’m willing to bet they weren’t to thrilled about that
STOP PAYING DISNEY!!!
As someone who grew up in the middle class, we always considered the Disney Parks too expensive for our family. Now it’s just stupidly out of reach.
Low Income family, but Disneyland was just down the street so I got to go maybe four times before moving out of state. Dad would get each of us the booklets of tickets and we'd all choose which 'E' rides to go on first. By the end of the day and everyone more tired, we decide which 'A' rides were worth stomaching.
That was when it was under $14 to enter the park and get a booklet of tickets.
Now... nope. Sounds like a super expensive chore.
Last time I went it was still $70 per ticket and that was expensive for my parents.
Ive never been able to enjoy these things. I always got sick or hurt. If id buy tickets id just break my legs tomorrw and itll be a waste just like all the other times.
The middle class never existed.
The middle class isn't real.
When it's that expensive and the park is still overcrowded, you can only imagine that it's going to be even more expensive in the future.
I think overall attendance is actually dropping despite it being crowded on this particular video.
Idiots will keep paying for woke garbage and Disney will milk them as much as possible to fund their failed social engineering movies
That is depending on how the worls's economy@@Bruce22027
this is some hard cope@@TD75
@@TD75I honestly wasn’t super impressed when I went to Disney last year. $20 per person for a fast pass is insane. We had the genie plus too, but it doesn’t even get you that many rides.
I agree, it’s depressing. My parents stretched their budget to make a trip there possible in the mid 90’s. I’m better off than my parents were and the same trip with my daughter is just not realistic.
“After purchasing the privilege of something that we used get for free” sums up the last 5 years tbh
The Bobs have been nothing but detrimental to the WDW experience.
Now all rides are upcharge attractions in addition to the regular park admission?
@@johnfoltz8183No, the Genie+ is an additional cost if you want to access the shorter queue instead of waiting in the free longer line.
Exactly
you can thank the "genius" concept of streaming platforms, and also companies losing money on every movie they make lol
Genie+ is an absolute disgrace. I don’t even think six flags could cook up something that horrendously anti consumer.
You just had to say something.... now Six Flags will take that as a challenge.
ua-cam.com/video/9yjZpBq1XBE/v-deo.html It explains a lot.
The six flags near me has had their flashpass system long before genie+ came along. I used it once years ago, $65 and you got three rides, thats it. I’m sure it’s different now though.
@@HaddaClu Six Flags knows that the best way to beat Disney is to add more value. Six Flags would see that as their demise.
Um, 6 flags has a system too but their system is wayyyyy more expensive. We did a trip at start of year and parks were crazy busy. Did not matter as genie plus let us ride almost everything. Disney system is CHEAP compared to other systems.
Walking around the theme park staring at your phone and fretting over all these systems to try and access rides sounds like a horrible time
It really does. Especially for people with sensory issue and anxiety, it must be absolute hell
Multiply the escapism with a device that encourages escapism from an amusement park. Makes it a topsy turvy moment
I was at Disney when Pokemon GO dropped. Everyone was freaking out about pokemon behind fences and glued to their phones. What a way to spend a Disney trip
for a trip that you spent so much money on!
It was horrible when i went last year, the most stressful holiday ever, and 3 weeks in orlando cost us around $22000Aud so a disaster on the wallet too
We just went there from Scotland. My Lord, I have never felt more rinsed for my money that at Disney World. I also have a lot of additional support needs which Disney World refused to help me with and made me sit through a horrible and emotionally painful process for anyway. Staff also do not seem happy at work, or at least a large portion of them. Like they aren’t being cared for by their employer.
Our time at Universal however, the total opposite. They were so supportive, caring, staff were amazing and attentive, it was brilliant. If I do return, I’ll be spending all of my time there, perhaps a day or two at Animal Kingdom or Hollywood studios.
It was the trip of lifetime for us after a very traumatic event for us which involved severe illness on my part. We still had an amazing time at Disney, but we noticed things.
Conversely, Disneyland Paris is absolutely amazing and couldn’t be any more different in terms of support and price.
I am so sorry. I truly feel you would have had the trip you deserved about ten years ago.
I hope you’re in the best health you’re able these days.
We took my daughter & grand daughter last year & hated the crowds & the long lines for a lot of the best rides . I noticed that many people seemed stressed - out & ill-tempered, probably because you spend a fortune to get there & then realize much of your time is spent just waiting .
90% of disneyland experience is you walking around in hot weather and waiting in lines for a 1 min rides..... I'd take that money and vaca somewhere else around in a exotic country with way better experience and way cheaper than Disneyland.
Exactly sir exactly
With their high prices, it really shocks me to see people so relaxed, just walking around slowly with no set plan of getting their moneys worth… some people dont seem to even get on any rides, and seem happy to just walk around, i guess thats a good thing, but it still surprises me
This must be an "american thing"! I´m from Europe and for roughly 1000$ per day i can book a mediteranian-cruise (at a private!! yacht 4 pax) or travel to the Seychelles or Maledieves instead waste my money on this crap! I can understand if someone had kids to go and see Disneyland, even it´s a "money burner"....but as an adult #Never (not even for free)
This has been my refusal to go to Disneyland again. All you do is stand in line. Even if the park pass was free, I'm not sure I would want to spend my day in lines. Plus guess who's even worse at waiting in lines than adults... kids. So you have screaming kids who are hot, thirsty, hungry, angry and impatient. Everywhere you look you pay more money. Honestly the price of food doesn't bother me as much as most people. It's the fact that you are always in line. Line for the bathroom, line to get a drink, line for the ride, line for the bus, line for lunch.
$40 to get on a ride in a park you already paid for is infuriating My 90s kid spirit is screaming
Right?? It certainly isn't the Disney we grew up going to. I remember it being expensive even in the mid 90's, but still something we could do once every few years. I didn't even know they got rid of Fastpass because I haven't gone since 2017, and it looks like I won't be going back anytime soon.
@@louc3268 exactly!! Crazy times.
Same here. I want to take my 4 year old but it’s just not a justifiable purchase. It’s cheaper to go on vacation somewhere else.
Six Flags was better than Disneyland.
@@louc3268 Having grown up in California just a short drive to Disneyland...and now 75 years old....having gone there many many times, looking at it now, it is a totally cheap fake worthless piece of overpriced nonsense. It reminds me at the core as very Wallmart, with a fancy paint job.....it is idiotic mind numbing and designed to fleece the masses and mind manipulation so that all the stupid low iQ masses gladly pay the inflated prices.
When I was young, I preferred Knotts Berry Farm for its authentic old west vibe. I even worked as a can can girl in the Calico saloon for an entire year....Back then it was free admittance and all the prices were a bargain.
We actually recently priced it out. It's cheaper to fly to Tokyo, stay, eat, and go to Disney there, than it is to go to either Disney park in the US. And we live in the US, and can drive to some of these
Do you have more details on this price comparison? Trying to convince my family to go to Tokyo before my friend that lives there moves back
@@Fhwgads11look up the price for tokyo disneyland and disneysea and convert to USD. it’s dirt cheap compared to the US parks. you can also buy tickets to the tokyo disney parks at convenience stores in japan like 7/11
That’s actually super smart!! Plus getting to experience a whole new country at the same time?! Yes please!!!
…! Is it?! They have the Duffy friends mascots there! :D this is a great idea
@Fhwgads11 there and back flights range anywhere from 1400 to 2000$ USD per ticket
Hotel prices (normal hotels, didn't check disney ones) are from 40 to 200 a night
Actual park tickets depending on your age and amount of time spent are around 140-200 per person
This is based off of googled amounts and doesn't include food or transport so I could be completely off, I would recommend sitting down with your family and having a conversation about it, finding places to stay and plane tickets so you have a better idea.
A very proud moment as a parent was when our two children chose the Smithsonian over Disney World
I am German and did a roadtrip in Florida two years ago. Even as a hige Star Wars Fan since the 80s I skipped Disney and visited real space ships at Cape Canaveral. Never regretted that decision!
I’m sure that happened.
Almost 900 dollars for public transport, an outdated hotel, mediocre food and hours of waiting time? No, thanks.
Go to the Bronx in New York cheaper
@@oliviajohnjohnolivia8142😂😂😂😂yeah, call it The original batman ride
Those portions were small too!
@JazzboJiggens Next time you want to go there I'll lend you some.
Yes the company currebtly is running on the brand of disney world to keep things going. When you go there, you notice a lot of people are stressed the hell out
Part of the problem is that a lot of folks today don’t see a trip to Disney World as a vacation, but a pilgrimage. It’s something they believe they’re just supposed to do, and no matter how steep the price tag gets, that conviction remains.
That’s what it felt like when I went with my fiancé
It's the holy land of American Consumerism. So yes it is a pilgrimage. One that gets worse every year.
Same as having children.
@@random1ghost819I suggested this to my girlfriend and she was like "you crazy?"
Check out the Disney reviews on google arrange by lowest Scary wait times and crazy crowds
Only magic that’s left in Disney World is how magically fast your wallet will be drained.
Smash all your childhood films too, but that is on the house
How is that magical, you literally see it vanish
Disney is very overrated. It’s the name brand. You’d be better off going to the beach and maybe paying for parking. Bring a picnic basket
@@filip1408 Magic, my friend.
Yep !
Disney parks have always been out of our family's park range, so I've never gone there. I do remember when my grandmother told us she was saving up to take us to Disney. However, the park kept getting more expensive, and my grandma passed away before ever saving enough money to take us there. She was saving up for about TEN YEARS, and didn't make enough to afford a Disney trip for even herself, since she had the added complications of needing a wheelchair, much less her and three kids. This was way before the prices started skyrocketing, too.
You paid almost a grand to ride 3-4 rides , eat 3 meals and stay 1 night in a mid hotel.😮 Yet Disney is packed with people to pay that (and more). The world is crazy!
It’s mostly older adults who are retired or influencers who get payed to go. Then you have the normal middle class family vacations and the low amount of people who saved a lot
I can only conclude people don’t know any better.
There's an abundance of stupid. That company hates you (if you are white)
And fools wonder how are we in a recession
I go every year. It's not full of just old people and influencers. Also, if you have the means, what's the issues? More people have the means to take trips like this than you may think.
I’m a Canadian who grew up lower class (single mother raising me and my brother, bordering on poverty class at times) and when I tell you I used to FANTASIZE about a Disney trip. Disney rentals from Blockbuster raised me on nights my mom worked late and they always had commercials for the parks. I still want to go at some point in my life, but now at 31 years old hearing how different it is to the parks I dreamed about as a little girl is really disheartening
Same! And with the current economic downturn in Canada (can't afford shit here!!!) No way id be able to afford to go down to the USA to go to disney world/land. Way too much $$$ in exchange rate alone. Id rather spend the hundreds/thousands you need to travel there and go elsewhere.
I went to a Disney park…..AS A FUCKING BABY. I don’t even know which one I went to and I’m only going if from stories of my parent, so this baby was most likely my big sister and not even me
Hi Mellie, I'm truly sorry to hear you've never got to live out this dream of visiting the park. I can empathize greatly. I've always been poor but knew I'd make it there one day so at 21, I got a credit card and flew to Florida. I maxed it out visiting the parks. I'm 26 and still paying it off. I wish I could say it was worth it. the parks were packed. the lines were long. the days were hot. it's hard to have memories of it when most of the time I was heat exhausted in the cues. Disney has become completely overrated sadly. I still hope one day you get to live out that fantasy when it won't financially harm you
@@Thatswildpimp Nope, it won't. Corporations got a taste of REAL unadulterated greed during/after covid, with huge profits and returns, and now shareholders won't let them NOT do this kind of thing anymore. More profits, more squeezing the consumer, more, more, more.
@@Thatswildpimp it won’t
It's devastating to see crowds bigger and bigger while Disney squeezes everybody more and more. I'm almost as mad at everybody continuing to support them than I am at Disney itself...
People will splurge on just about anything. Look at the people who paid $14k to go to the Superbowl.
@@Housewarmin I'm no football fan, but at least the Superbowl is a once-a-year event acting as the championship for the entire league. If you're a big football fan, especially if one of your teams is one of those competing in it, then yea, I'd say it's at least somewhat justified to be willing to spend a lot of money on something that's such a big deal overall.
But Disney? Disney's there every day, offering the same services, and the variable prices are only for selling more tickets overall, not because you're getting less or more or whatever. Hell, even as someone who doesn't like football, I'd probably sooner spend that amount of money on going to the Superbowl myself than bothering with Disney. At least with the Superbowl I'm actually going to be able to see the game, whereas with Disney I might not even get to ride the rides I want, which would be my entire reason for being in the park.
To some people, Disney is a once in a liftetime or once a decade trip. They will always spend to have the trip they want. Disney knows that, and will always go after those people. Im sure in a year or two, Genie Plus will be $100 a person, and people will STILL pay for it. @@DraconisLeonidas
I think this is the key point. It's not just that Disney Parks' profits are growing. They could theoretically get that result by gouging more money from a smaller pool of attendees. Despite how much people seem to complain, more and more customers keep going. My old coworker seems to visit WDW at least once a year. I told him at one point, "It's a nice place, but I can't justify going back because the prices are out of control." He replied by saying that was just part of the experience that you have to deal with. It's not just the people splurging for One Big Trip that are propping up the Disney theme parks. A lot of repeat customers really do just love it THAT much.
They're losing money long term. As a child/teen I used to go yearly but haven't been back in 7 years seeing how the prices just keep going up. I'm planning a trip this year but I know it's the only one I'll make for several years to Disney due to the cost. Instead my money has been going to six flags which I frequent way more often
What my European mind will never understand and accept is the single use plates and cutlery you can see at 6:06. You are dining in and this is what you get? It’s terrible how much trash this will produce. How difficult is it to have proper plates, steel cutlery and glasses?
When in France, even McDonalds started doing multiple-use plastic dishes, at least for eating in.
I'm older and I do understand tech. But when I went online to book Disney World, I eventually threw up my hands and said "fuck it" and didn't even go
You dodged a financial bullet man 😂
If only they had a phone number.
I dislike how so much of it is app driven. Add roaming fees to the total cost.
@@iVTECInside especially if you’re visiting from overseas. 🙄
This is the way.
Disney’s parks CEO stated that they plan to address parks over crowding by making the parks too expensive for some people. I think I will just take my money elsewhere
GOOD. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
@@grobble8954 now why would you say something like that, are you that full of hate? If you are example of most people going to Disney then I am making a wise choice
@@denniss3980 Stop your bitching, It's a simple fact, if Disney was cheaper it would hit capacity all the time and be even more over crowded. Disney should be trying to raise prices even more. If they can make the same money with less people, thus make the experience better for those that attend. If you don't have the money to afford it, stop whining, don't go or get a better job.
@@grobble8954 dude, chill
@@grobble8954get a life you scrub troll
It used to be very common for people from my country (Australia) to fly to the USA just to visit Disney. It was considered “do-able” albeit a bit expensive. These days it seems like everyone would rather visit Tokyo Disney, rather than the American ones.
I would prefer the American parks for sure.
Probably ran better with less nonsense
Doesn't matter, Disney is still getting your money 😂.
Tokyo could definitely be cheaper.
@@MrGforce52 Tokyo Disneyland is the only resort that Disney doesn't operate. It's ran by the Oriental Land Company and the prices, while still expensive, are nowhere near as extortionate as any other Disney resort.
It’s OUTRAGEOUS how expensive it is. They are so greedy.
Last time I visited Disney in the spring of 2023, I found myself constantly thinking about the high costs of everything, such as $400 pajamas and $25 scrunchies. By the end of the day, instead of reminiscing about the fun I had, I was worried about the size of my credit card bill, even though I didn't buy much merchandise. On my way back to the hotel, it dawned upon me that despite being a Disney fan since childhood, I would rather try Universal Studios the next time. This realization came as a huge surprise to me.
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Universal is great ! We only go there and stay at their resorts but honestly it's pricey as well especially the express pass..
Went to universal in Hollywood even when you’re just looking around, it’s hella fun. Soooo many things to do for free.
@@yrbelite8450 I went with a friend to Universal Hollywood for Halloween Horror Nights, and it was a BLAST. Not cheap... it's a theme park of course but WAY more reasonable than Disney.
@@joshr6626 The express pass def makes it pricey. We did without and waited way too long to ride some things but with strategy we still rode everything we wanted that day. Def not so at Disney. :(
Going to Hong Kong Disneyland was like stepping back in time. No park reservation, we just showed up. The ticket was about $60 a person. Crowds were manageable. Food was theme park priced, but not outrageous. It was cheaper to fly there than it would be to spend a weekend at Disney World in a Disney Resort. :/
Prices fluctuate in regards to local wealth. Disney in NA has become an annual exodus for the rich, people on HK don’t have as much money nor are willing to spend as much.
Interesting
@@tomman2257 of course, they wont be abused like the americans, becuase they just dont "love" disney that much.
but were all the attractions in mandarin?
@@OmPoeta Yes but, what I remember mostly everything had English subtitles or a translation posted :)
I live in Orlando. Even worked for disney at one point. The Disney company brags about inclusivity and being family oriented, but they’re really money oriented. They’re pricing out the middle class.
Now, only rich people and international tourists spending their life savings are welcomed.
I'm surprised they aren't taking more of a hit on their "inclusive" push when they are more than willing to exclude anyone who can't pay.
Why would it matter for them if the parks are overcrowded at any given day?
I have no idea who the heck can afford to go there.
That's all companies that virtue signal about "diversity and inclusion"
Which is not a good business choice because there's a heck of a lot more non-rich people than there are the rich. Granted it's not like when I was a kid, either. Back then you only had to wait in line a half hour tops. Now you might be standing in line for 2 hours depending on the rides you're trying to get on.
@@WorldWalker128 Again, it looks like they are doing quite well from the business perspective. There is another question that comes to my mind in this case. Disney offers much worse experience for much more money nowadays and it is still massively overcrowded. Similar situation can be observed in other fields too. Take concert tickets, car prices, popular tourist places (whether the US or Europe), etc. All are so expensive while being overbooked, overwhelmed with crowds of tourists etc. People spend like there is no tomorrow, completely unsustainable.
I work at an economy motel in Hershey, PA. We’ve been busier than ever when Hersheypark is open bc instead of blowing 3 mortgage payments on a week at Disney they spend a few hundred bucks on a 3-4 day weekend in Hershey. And their prices have gone up too but it’s still affordable and you also get a water park and a zoo with the admission. Plus when you leave the park there are dozens of restaurants nearby that aren’t connected so you don’t pay park prices for a meal.
so you're telling me... I have to pay to get into the park THEN I have to pay for an app, THEN after I pay for an app I have to PAY FOR THE RIDE???? that's insane.
It's called a profit center. That is how the people behind Disney now think. They probably spend tons of times in meetings trying to figure out what they can make next a profit center.
The app is free but, yes, you’re paying an additional fee to get on the premium rides at peak attendance and/or popularity of the ride. Crazy!
Seems like the accountants are running the place now
Yup, you pay an entry fee, just to pay more money. And because everyone has to rely on the fast passes etc, your ONLY hope to not spend multiple hours in queues for single rides is to also pay for those passes. Then you have the situation where everyone has fast passes, so they have introduced a faster fast pass. It's nuts.
@@koresoteira447it's crazy how accurate this is
I remember about 10 years ago when my family was staying at the Disneyland Hotel, on our last night a cast member slipped a voucher under our door that let us stay another night for about $50 or so. Obviously it was a way to get us to buy another ticket for the parks but it was such a good deal that there is no way we couldn't have taken it. There is absolutely no way modern Disney would ever do something like that.
Now they are going to slip a rainbow flag under your door LOL
I had a cast member give me 4 Fast Passes because I had a nose bleed while cueing up for Space Mountain. It wasn’t even a bad nose bleed- I had them all the time. This was also at the time of paper fast passes. Yeah, modern Disney would never do that.
Better yet, I’ll never forget the joy that families would have when my family would give away our paper fast passes on the days we park hopped.
@@JAmacelaactually this is wrong disney still does stuff like that aka magical moments
Sea world Orlando is way better I'd also prefer fun spot
@@eduardovargas7366bro what
I almost wanted to throw up about a dozen times while he explained prices. Especially being from Canada these prices are just insane when converted. I think alot of people should genuinely consider travellnig outside North America. There are incredible parks, activies, food, etc available all over asia for a fraction of the price even after paying for a plane ticket. Plus all this crowding at Disney Parks makes it a logisitical nightmare for most people.
I was so shocked as well. 3 days at Disney could fund a week or two in Japan… 😅
True, but depend on which side of Asia you want, you have to deal with people mark upping the price just because you're a westerner and the language barrier.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Disney doesn’t mark up prices, and you just book hotels online. I’ve been to both HK and Shanghai Disney and you can go without being scammed as a white person (then people who may mark up are just selling cheap street food etc, and it’s still incredibly cheap anyway).
even if they do it most likely would still be cheaper lol @@blushingralseiuwu2222
I never travel in usa unless im going to visit family. I have no idea how people afford it.
As a spouse of a former Disney corporate employee, we used our Siver Pass not only at DL but at WDW. Before we moved out of the country, we took the kids one last time in 2022. We were gifted two tickets by friends who still work for corporate. I know we never had to pay for day tickets, but we were shocked at how much it was for two park hoppers! $300!! We couldn’t have afforded a full day for our family of four! ONE DAY would be $600 just to get in, no parking, no special fast pass things, no food! I’m glad my now teens grew up going and have fond mementos because we’re never paying to go to Disneyland again.
What's even funnier is that even though they keep increasing prices, Tron was STILL sponsored by Enterprise as if Disney didn't have enough money to built it themselves or something
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@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303who cares
Jesus, at least back in the day when a corporation sponsored a ride, they had the decency to come up with something original. Now they fall back on marketable IP-name recognition anyway. Fuck corporate greed.
It’s hilarious isn’t it? Universal has never once done this in the last 20 years to my knowledge, yet put up significantly better, and more immersive arguably, attractions with less money, no sponsors and at 5x the speed.
Almost like Disney doesn’t care at all anymore and is focused solely on their IP and streaming while parks take a backseat to cash flow.
there's no reason for them to improve the parks. despite living costs going up more than ever, people still spend money far beyond their means to go to places like disney for vacations. their reputation is such that no matter what they do, people are always going to go to the "happiest place on earth". it's always been simply about making the money number go higher, even though disney couldve easily footed the bill on pretty much everything they make, they still seek out sponsors since it's less of a liability for them@@patrickn8355
My husband side of the family LOVES going to Disney. Me, a third world country woman, think that disney is way to expensive, with 4k i can go back home and visit my country for a whole month, eat really good food, do bunch on activities and enjoy it more than spending all my day waiting in a line
It's crazy. My wife is Eastern European and was obsessed about going to Disney with our son until I showed her the cost. We were able to go to Hawaii for a month for less. Then two years later we went to Bali, Thailand and Vietnam all in one trip for a month for less than a Disney trip and I can DRIVE to Disney. We also live next to a major theme park (12 min drive) with better roller coasters and all similar kinds of things that Disney has and the season passes are like $150ea. The meal plans are like $200/yr and that gets you two meals a day every single day. Sometimes we go just to have lunch. I do want to find a way to take my son there but it will more likely be for a day or two and we'll stay far away from the park.
I grew up going to Disney and I’d rather go to wherever you’re going 😂
Same. My husband has memories of visiting Disney faithfully when growing up, and he wants to keep the tradition alive. I grew up poor, I refuse to pay thousands to have a horrible frustrating experience at an overpriced theme park.
@@joey-ne6pl Wow that's a good deal! $350/year for your annual food budget, assuming you don't need to pay for parking. 😮
@@brianal7143 Well good thing you aren't paying lol.
The elimination of Free fast pass with the introduction of Genie and particularly Individual Lightning Lanes just kinda killed my enthusiasm
I refuse to use it because #1it's too expensive and #2 It's too confusing. I'll never purchase it.
I've just seen the mess Disney has made for itself with all the different fast pass systems and I'm just confused how they get it so wrong. But I understand they just want more money so they're willing to make everything feel worse so you pay for a barely acceptable experience
Same here. I live in Orlando and make decent money, but still don't feel like going. I grew up here and remember how it used to be not so long ago, so I get a little bitter at how it is now.
@@adamstrachn Same, I could afford it but I still just resent being nickel and dimed on attractions inside the park. The whole point of the fast pass was to reduce time in line to get people elsewhere in the park spending more. They’re just dinging customers both places now.
Same, I am waiting for the old system to come back.
I quit going in 2003 after going every year for over 20 years. No way would I want to spend over 800 for a day. That is insane.
I work at disney for the last few years and I still remember something a guest told me on one odd my first few days in conversation. They had to save 5 years for week long trip , and it’s only getting worse. That made me feel so bad and really puts it into perspective
Anyone who would save for 5 years to spend 1 week at an amusement park, has their priorities wrong.
Black nazi woke Disney dont care what you think
@@same5952I can understand why they would. If this is your dream vacation, then 5 years of saving to make it the best week of your life...well it's not a good option but it's really your only option.
Five years just to go to a theme park is an odd obsession, there must be way more interesting places in the world to visit than that.
What was your hourly wage?
Something I noticed off the top of my head, they probably could easily reduce capacity and improve service/wait times. But they won't since 60+ minute wait times means an average family can only average 3-4 rides a day MAX. Forcing you to stay longer + buy more food + more drinks + more merchandise etc
I just wish people would stop falling for it. It was one thing when the experience as a whole wasn't as expensive, but every year it just gets worse.
"reduce capacity" sounds like you might've put that a little backwards
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@@meganegan5992I believe OP is saying that could have reduced capacity by limiting how many people get in through ticket sales, but they won’t because they make more money by having stay longer
I was in Japan for several weeks this summer, so I decided to check out Tokyo Disney. I spent two days to check out each park, spent 3 nights at a 3rd party hotel that was onsite and still on the monorail line. Including food and transport to the resort from the city, the total trip cost about 58,000 yen or about 390 usd. That is nuts compared to the US.
A lot of US Disney fans have started going to the out of country parks instead for that very reason.
The Oriental Land Company has been extremely hostile towards the recent changes at Disney! They are refusing to re theme splash mountain, and have been staunchly against the price hikes and anti consumer sentiment so I can’t say im shocked! Disney has been trying to fight them but thankfully their contract has helped OLC fight off these changes.
It's the same with Paris - tickets are included with the hotel price, which generally is around or under €200 a night.
I've never been, so I'm no expert, but I think it's bc in the USA, Disney has legit political power in the areas where the parks are so they can pretty much do what they want, and there's not much chance of losing their customer base bc Disney adults are Disney adults. But in Europe and Asia, the parks are near capital cities, which have better tourist alternatives, other economic industries, and harder-to-manipulate local politics. They actually have to price competitively to get people through the door.
I wonder how that will change now that Americans are apparently going to the cheaper international parks? Here's hoping they learn to appreciate the actual countries instead of the disney parks in them 😅
More Americans are going to the international parks than before, but it’s an extremely small percentage of the people visiting the US parks. I don’t think people going abroad will have any effect on how the US parks are run.
Tokyo Disney is run by another company. Disney has zero invovlement. That is probably a huge reason why it is so much more affordable.
Disney then: Fastpass allows guests to experience more rides and do more activities! It benefits both us and them because they spend more money at our shops!
Disney now: "Okay now hit the second formerly-free feature"
2 years ago, we stayed in a 2 bedroom bungalow on a beach in Fiji for 12 days. With all food, at least 1 excursion each day (zip lining, snorkeling, fishing, private island bbq, mud pools, several tours, transportation, flight and more) for $1,400 USD. It's a bummer cuz I love Disney, but I'd rather take a 2 week tropical vacation than waste all that money for 2 days at Disney.
That vacations sounds absolutely incredible! You've gotta be just uninformed or completely engrossed in Disney consumerism crap to choose two days at Disney world rather than two weeks anywhere else
@@Jodus_MacGotuss Oh, nice " consumerism crap" we term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS.
"Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children!
My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!)
We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous!
"Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy.
"Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)"
Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
@@lyndafayesmusicTLDR. What?
Are you autistic? Serious question. Because your babbling to seemingly no one but yourself 😂
DisneyLand property is owned by the British Crown..look it up. The money doesn't even go back into America. That is why no one ever unalives at Disney..it's Crown Land and the biggest secret ever.
Disney used to be super expensive but provided a great experience with a lot of value. Now it’s just super expensive.
That's a key point; my family was lucky enough to get to go every year for a little while when I was a kid, and while my parents knew it was pricey, they at least felt like they were always getting their money's worth - the staff always went above and beyond, the experiences were varied and had something to offer for the entire family (not just the kids or just fans of a particular property), etc.
There's still stuff to like there now, but the experience itself is so much more harried and stressful, the perks that were there are being removed one by one, lines are longer not just because of crowds but because of the very "solution" Disney had proposed with Lightning Lanes, and even the staff, which often tries its best, is in such a tougher situation given how much worse corporate apparently treats them today as opposed to back in the 80s-early 00s. And they want us to pay 50% *more* for all of that.
@@jmn327Michael Eisner got a lot of hate in the 2000s for the way he ran the company. In hindsight, I think we were too harsh on the guy and didn’t appreciate him enough for what he did for the company.
@@karlstrauss2330 There's definitely a lot to legitimately criticize Eisner about, and I do think there's something to the argument that he was never quite the same once Frank Wells died. However, push comes to shove, Eisner at least came in as a guy who cared about the creative side of things, and still demanded a top-notch show, even though there were moments he screwed up big time (e.g. the end of the old EPCOT Center began under his watch, the EuroDisney early shakiness, the beginning of California Adventure, etc.). While he was far from perfect, I'd take his approach over the "Harvard MBA" approach of the Bobs, where you avoid risks, make tons of cuts, and jack up prices at every opportunity.
@@jmn327 I don't think Wells death had much to do with it, even before then he was running into problem's like the opening of Eurodisney not doing as well as anticipated.
Nailed it!
If Dante wrote 'Inferno' today, the circle of greed would be stuffed to the brink with Disney executives.
Sadly that’s the whole world. Greed is doing more damage than all the hate and wars, and is usually the cause of a lot of those wars.
"Disney" is an overqualification.
No it would be stuffed with conservatives who value money over people. Disney isn’t the problem. The American healthcare system, monopolies and capitalism that refuses to make minimum wage on par with living costs is why you can’t afford Disney.
@user-li2yv5je5e they'd be split
They aren't a charity buddy.
I was thinking about Disneyland and fell asleep, I woke up and it was the best Disney experience in my dream, there were no lines and most importantly it was all free.
Went to Disneyland once with my dad, stepmother, and 3 siblings. My dad was a blue collar truck driver, and told us we were driving to visit Great Grandma. Never ever would we have thought we were going to Disney. It's one of my favorite childhood memories, and would never have happened in this day and age. We were poor. But dad still managed to take 5 people to Disneyland for the day on his meager septic tank pump out pay. I wish kids like I was could have that one time experience, but 5 people on Disney's greedy pricing will never happen for poor kids. Walt would not be pleased.
Your dad was a good man
My grandma likewise saved up her secretary salary to bring us kids there to have a childhood she never had in the depression. As a kid I loved Walt and felt he wanted to celebrate families and innocence. Now the company feels predatory in more ways than one. They've attached a feeling of disgust to their brand that is akin to adding vinegar to ice cream.
Great memories and great comment👍😌🕶
I would say other theme parks still exist, but those are all way too expensive too. Sometimes I wish we could just burn all the money in the world and make everything free. As a kid I always wanted that.
Well Cedar Park in Ohio is a great option and deal, especially in comparison to some of these other overpriced amusement parks. 😀😲😏😁
Hearing that you paid over $40 for the two of you to ride Tron absolutely killed any morbid curiosity I had about visiting these parks again. I can spend that money on a mid-price video game and actually get several hours of enjoyment out of it.
I could spend hours going to professional sporting event for less money they he spent on a minute long ride.
Perfect to buy Helldivers 2
Or go to Universal instead. Screw Disney
That's a week or half a week of groceries.
My birthday was just yesterday and I spent like 50 dollars on baldurs gate 3 and got more enjoyment out of it lmao
For $5K I'm going with my wife to the Maldives all inclusive for 2 weeks in December (their peak season). No lines and I may only look at my smartphone for the time of day.
Well, I would hope there would be no lines to do nothing.
@@NatYourAverageNerdwhat are you even waffling about? Where did he defend Disney? Obviously there would be no lines to lounge around a beach all day.
@@slintisbased I see that the original comment I had replied to is now gone, which was much less friendly than it is now. I see the confusion with it, Dylan.
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I think their President just banned Jews, maybe reconsider...
In 2010. I took my family of 5 to Disney. Stayed at Port Orleans riverside, had a dining plan and paid $2500. For 7 day passes for 5 people. We loved the port Orleans!!!! We loved our time!! We loved our dining plan!!! We loved our vacation!!! Fast forward ten plus years. Now, I am divorced, have another son who is now of Disney age, and just a weekend for the two of us is $3500 plus.I’m so glad my son is not into Disney like my older girls were!!!! Bc it’s just out of reach. And I won’t pay nearly $4k for a weekend at Disney for two people NOT including transportation nor food. Crowds during spring break was so heavy you couldn’t see your hand in front of your face. We waited over two hours for Kilimanjaro safari which was normal. But second time we went , we got in line at 5:45 and walked right thru and got right on the truck. To me these attractions are so old. I haven’t been to Disney since 2011 and most of these rides were old even then!!! Come on Disney!!! Stop just stop!!!!
How terrible to charge people an extra $20 to ride a popular ride when they have already charged you for admission. What a scam!
People keep paying
Busch Gardens Tampa: Hold my beer
Kinda like paying real estate taxes when u have no kids in school
Staying in line is free tho
Yeah like buying car insurance. 2000k a year. And the insurance company
pay 500$ WHEN YOUR CAR iS TOTALED
Can you really call it a Disney vacation if you don’t get at least one diamond encrusted Cinderella Castle?
I buy one every time I go! Don’t you? Lol
What kind of father would deny their daughter anything of the kind.
The man himself!
I’d buy it not for $200K 😂
@@TimoteoDeBaum Imagine not spending 200k on an ugly display castle on your 1k 1 day fun park vaction.
What are you poor?
(this is a joke)
And of course, Chris Provost made a good point about Genie+ causing the massive crowds in the walking areas throughout the day. Instead of people standing in ride queues for 30 mins or so in different locations, they're now all virtual queueing so are wandering around and making the crowd levels worse. Disney loves this because they are buying things while waiting for their virtual queue.
I don't think people get supply side economics, Disney is fine with losing a few guests, the remaining guests more than make up for their loss because they are willing to pay too much. This is the economic model for just about everything now, if you don't want to pay too much for rent, fine, be homeless. I have 4000 vacant apts in my neighborhood in Atlanta, they are still making more keeping them empty and charging people a supply side price they are willing to pay.
That was their plan. Virtual que and you’ll walk around spending more money while you wait. You won’t spend money if you’re stuck in line
We went Oct, and what I hated the most were the strollers and wheelchairs. Too many of them. The waiting in line was very stressful. Our tickets cost us $900 and some dollars and that was a discount. Four parks, too. We will not be returning to Disney again.
The second parade we were watching, it was so crowded. There was no control at all. God forbid if there was an emergency in the park. It took two hours weaving in and out of the tube's to get out of the park. Never again.
Nothing screams vacation like paying 30 dollars for a crappy burger, spending hours in the hot sun, and paying hundreds a night for a hotel room
Welcome to florida baby
Right? forget gourmet food, luxury and rest lol, have mediocre food, crowds, noise and stress!
We did this exact same trip with a family of four with the same hotel. One thing I will say about not leaving the resort for food is you will have mud butt by day 2 and a half. Disgusting food.
@@noahziegler3478 when i visited orlando with my ex, we started each day by hitting up waffle house. Cost us way less money, and keeps you full well through the day, far better than wasting all your money at the parks.
Don't forget paying 43$ for whatever bulshit they call "priority line" for just one attraction, even though you already purchase the costly "priority pass" that work for every attraction except the ones you want to do. I'm giving this a hard pass and will bring my kids to Nintendo World instead. Because they're "slighly less" greedy.
6k got me 20 days between Iceland, Copenhagen, South Sweden, and eating and drinking like a KING and I’d do it all over again over Disney 😂😂
This is what I find most interesting. I understand why families with lots of kids in different ages would rather do Disney than backpacking in the Alps, but I find it surprising that adults would love Disney so much that they would go with just friends or a partner. Go have fun in a real city! It's way better and half the cost!
Amen
Nice
Right?!? I spent maybe 2k on everything for my trip to Norway for three weeks in 2019.
europe is mind blowing. If your 10 disney might be better.
Our family's sentiment exactly. We used to go a few times here and there, but haven't been back since 2018. The cost, value, and experience are far removed from what it used to be. Since that time, we have been all over the USA exploring some pretty amazing places. We went to Hawaii in November for a week, and was cheaper than a Disney trip. That says quite a bit right there. The nickel and diming of Disney World, and the aspect of being tethered to a phone the whole time to pay more on top of an already expensive park/hotel was simply no longer justifiable for us.
I agree completely.
Ditto! We’ve been all over the country traveling spending our ‘Disney money’ elsewhere until they fix the ‘fast pass’ nonsense
@@worldtraveler3044 It'll never happen.
As a Florida resident, it's INSANE going to Disney. Remember even if you get the annual pass, which is almost 500 dollars now, you still need to spend money on the park, you get 'free parking" but you spend on gas, food, water, and god forbid a souvenir! I also worked for Disney and it was the worst experience ever!
We go to Orlando every other year. We used to do 3-5 days of leisurely Disney Park strolls, not worrying about what rides we went on, just enjoying the environment. Now we only do one day at the park, if any. Too expensive and too crowded even to just walk around. And the good food and relaxing spaces are now non-existent. You can’t even get a coffee and muffin when you enter the park without waiting on an hour long line. And there’s nowhere to sit. It’s like they removed all their benches and tables.
This is something I've seen in SO many places, they've removed places to sit and exist because that forces you to go into stores or cafes and pay to take a breather or keep get you out of there, its about pay or get out and jus squeezing every cent
You just answered this entire video. If prices were 2015, the parks would implode. Theyre raising prices because it simply cannot match demand. For some reason, maybe life sucks or the influx of kids looking to relive disney channel memories, the parks are filling up. If tickets were 800 a day, people would still go. This isnt a fault of the company, but their old pricing is just not sustainable for the demand it has
@@Undecided_ that is cope if I’ve ever seen it. They don’t need to be anti-consumer to deal with demand. It’s their park, they can choose to limit ticket sales per park per day if they want a specific capacity (like they did during covid). Even if they limited ticket sales AND raised the price of the base tickets, it would still be less anti-consumer than adding a ton of hidden fees to try to have an enjoyable experience.
@@seyi6295 it's not cope, it's literally basic capitalism. There's demand, it can't be filled, raise prices.
In literal every sense of the word, Disney parks is a fantastic company, it's not make a wish. Don't like it, build your own park
Capitalism at this stage is literally anti consumerist so idk what you want
Very revealing, as not the actual rides, just, "enjoying the environment'. You mean being able to actually walk around, without a car, and enjoy vendors and shops and interactions with other people? Like REAL towns USED to be built in America? As opposed to commuting, through car traffic, down your local six-lane, divided highway, with businesses on either side of the monstrosity?
American economic classes can be split up by the following: never been to Disneyland, went to Disneyland once, and regularly visiting Disneyland
I used to visit it by and large when I lived in California, one county away. But since I moved, not anymore. I am a day’s drive from the Magic Kingdom, but cannot afford to go.
I know you’re joking but this is a horrible analogy. Disneyland is probably the most turbonormie place on earth and genuinely well off people don’t visit Disneyland every month lol. They have their own horrible demographic.
@@Shoegaze- I guess the final class would be: owns stock in Disneyland. Chill man
@@JosieDrake1995 chill? You didn’t read “I know you’re joking”. So are you not joking? Do you really let Disneyland define your life so much you project it onto the entire rest of the US😭😭. I’m curious now has everyone you’ve met either been to or wanted to go to Disneyland? Because I guarantee that hasn’t been the case for me and the only people I see regularly going are people with young kids and Disney adults(worst people on the planet).
@@Shoegaze- I drew out an analogy further than it needed, there is genuinely no need for hostility. I don’t even have the desire to visit the parks and I find the whole mindset very alien. I visited a park one time when I was a toddler and I can barely remember the event
I experienced Disney Land for the first time in 2013, then I was 26. I was blown away. It was an awesome experience and I was amazed at the joy and helpfulness of staff members and just how controled the park was. It was crowded but no more than expected. I went back again with my family almost two years ago and it was truly a miserable experience. The cast members were grumpy, the park was kind of dirty and I had never seen it more crowded. We were essentially shuffling slowly everywhere we wanted to go. It was not a good time. I have had no desire to go back since.
Not a fun experience anymore sadly.
Yeah i feel like this with disney world. Cant say ive been there pre covid - but disney world now seems to have workers who are a little grumpy, the people visiting the park are a little hostile and stressed. Was it always like that ?
lol it was trash and expensive in 2013 as well
@@Who_attackedFirst It's because every young person today is being told their life sucks and that all work is the slavery of capitalism. Forget doing your best and having a good attitude to earn your pay; instead, you are entitled to a life of free-everything and infinite happiness, and all employers are capitalist pigs who are forcing you to do work just to survive.
Come to work with that mindset, and there's _no way_ you'd have a good attitude about anything.
Did you go during 2 different seasons? That could impact your trip a lot
This doesn't have much to do with the video's topic, but i stayed at the riverside hotel when i went to disney for the first time ever as a kid. I never thought it'd go to USA much less Disney, and I was extremely happy. The review of the hotel for some reason made me fight tears a bit... it's so nostalgic. I went to it only once and it was truly a magical experience for me. Seeing the rooms again made me so happy. I really had a good time there
Anyways great video, sorry for the little story but i just wanted to share
Our family of 5 have been saving to go to Disney, we were taking steps to get passports when Covid hit in 2020! Fast forward to 2023, the last estimate I put together for our family, a 7 day trip with 3 at Disney was hitting $15,000 CDN. Our kids were old enough, 17/14/12, to talk through what this looks like and they would rather do 2-3 different trips for the cost of one Disney. Thank you for a great vid that puts things in perspective and confirms what I've found.
This is the smartest decision you guys could've made bc as someone that's worked at Disney it genuinely is not worth it lol.
y’all made the right choice. like everyone else says disney just isn’t what it used to be it’s definitely not worth it now
wow man. yeah go on a trip disney ain’t worth it
Our family was in the exact same situation. We felt so good about saving up, but when it came time to check prices, the collective disappointment was too much. We ended up buying off-brand lightsabers (which ended up being much better quality than what Disney sells) and we've never regretted it!
With 15k, you can pay for 3 trips overseas
Disney in the US is an absolute nightmare in every way. I bring my kids to Disney Tokyo for their Disney fill. It's not run by Disney and it cheaper in every way. Public rail to the resort, the non-disney hotels are just as close, tickets cost less than half as much and all of the food is cheaper.
It's almost like there are different market forces at play in Tokyo. 🤔
Honestly, Japan is just a better country in general lol. Everything's cleaner. People are so much nicer. It's so much safer. And it despite what everyone says, Japan is so much cheaper than the US. It's not Thailand but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.
Great! But what's it cost to get to Japan ??????????????
Yeah but it's still woke narrative pushing Disney...
@@SomethingSomethinggspoken like someone who never lived in Japan
As a native Floridian who grew up going to Walt Disney World (when it was cheaper than it is nowadays) The best time to go to the park is during hurricane season. I've been to Disney several times when a hurricane is going to hit the area and the park is almost deserted but all the rides, attractions, restaurants ext are still open. definitely a great time to go if you hate crowds and lines lol.
Lmao my family went the day Irma was supposed to hit and it was legit the best experience ever 😂
I grew up near a Cedar Fair park and had a pass there for a few years, and if the weather was inconvenient at all but not so bad it closed the rides, it was the best.
same with cruising 🚢
@@lexa_powerThe only cruise I’ve ever been on was a Disney Cruise during hurricane season! It did rain the day we stopped at Castaway Cay, but they stayed an extra day for us to be able to enjoy the island! To this day it’s the most relaxing vacation I’ve ever been on and I’ve nearly convinced my partner that it should be our next vacation.
When we lived in fla., we were always warned to "stay away from METAL" of all kinds, during tornados or hurricanes?
We had friends who shoed horses and rebuilt their automobiles; THEIR kids had so much fun they never even ASKED to go to Disneyland! FIX IT SHOPS AND HORSES can be educational AND fun.
Look up above your comment; Those who visited Disneyland in TOKYO saved allot of money!
With all of their profits and land purchases evident, you'd think they could have provided a WAITING ROOM WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES for those people instead of CRAMMING them all in to suffer!
Welcome to the new America; Charge more, provide less, make profits your goal!
The Disney of the 70's was great as it was, but then EVERYTHING gets expanded upon to make money to be followed ?
Perhaps if the space aliens could come here to intervene before mankind shoots itself dead in the foot, there could be hope. WE pray if Walt can "return to us " someday, he could design a BIG ANTI WAR MACHINE for us!
Ha, I guess enjoying riding you own little Shetland pony would have not incited enough excitement and would have required skill?!
Better to dream of mice that talk and bears that are stuffed, and rockets that soar in the air and kill people, right ?
If Disney had KEPT designing more rides LIKE The "Pirates of the Carribean,", and "displays with dissertations" such as, i.e. like, the Abe Lincoln speech, it seems more of Walt's ORIGINAL IDEAS might have continued successfully! "This world, That world,"and expansions etc. may not have done allot to help "educate children" as Walt had thought! (Just my opinion regarding "education versus entertainment!) Of course it DID successfully provide more JOBS for employees!
One former commenter said " consumerism crap" WE term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS.
"Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children!
My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!)
We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous!
"Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy.
"Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)"
Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children in Spanish, French & Italian with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
I have been to Disneyworld 4 times over the years. The last time I went- about 10 years ago (@ 58 years old). This was the first time technology on phones applied. It was very confusing then, and seems like even more confusing now! And the prices are outrageous. It was one of my favourite places to go, but because of the changes, I will never go again.
The $285,000 crystal-covered castle is the epitome of lunacy.
I can bedazzle that myself for 500 bucks 😂
But it's one of fifty!
Its crazy you can just buy it in the gift shop
You can buy a house with that.
How do you take it home? Or at least they include shipping?
Family of four here; It cost over $1,000 a day, NOT including the hotel!!
U people are INSANE
Why go?
@@flavioa6351 I will never go again
My heart hurts that so many people on here can't afford going / taking their kids. Shouldn't be the case for adults working full time jobs in America.
So instead of whining about the cost, why didn´t you go somewhere else for vacation?
I am one of the original Disney kids. My first trip to Disneyland was in 1955, and I got to see Walt Disney himself invite us into the park. I watched The Magical World of Disney change from B&W to color. When Walt's vision for Disney World opened, I was there with my family. I attended many times afterward. Walt's vision was for all children to have the opportunity to see and believe in an alternate world that emphasize all that was good in the world.
Disney is now run by scalpers and traitors to Walt's original vision. Disney could care less about the children of the world and certainly left all that is good in the world at the front door of the bank.
Larry from Texas
I agree with everything you wrote. Disney could care less about the children. Now, they only care about the almighty dollar.
MY Father put the roof on the castile and I was involved with him to put the roof on ASS HOl
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If the vision was for "all children" to do this, why wasn't it a charity? Why is Disney publicly traded, now, and why is the Disney family going to be wealthy for generations to come on the backs of that profit? Why not donate the company, on his death, to a foundation that would achieve that vision if that was his real dream?
Poor kids, even just poor American kids, have never had access to this stuff. It was only ever magic for some kids, while they told you that it was for "all kids" to make it so that you'd feel better about doing it. It was always about money, you just used to be part of the class that counted as having enough money to matter.
If you think Walt fucking Disney (of all people!) wouldn’t absolutely love what his company became, you really don’t know much about him.
@@Nassifeh I'm not sure I implied that Disneyland was not a business. For Walt to build Disneyland, he had to have revenue. If you read the history of how he accomplished this, you will know that he used everything but his firstborn for collateral, and even then, his financial success was in doubt. No one, at least to my knowledge, can create something as grand as Disneyland without sufficient funds, which in most cases means creating a business. His dream of providing something for the children wasn’t something that sold well on Wall Street.
You could say that Walt only saw dollar signs when he built Disneyland, but his initial success was very much in doubt. Some even referred to it as Walt’s folly. Walt wasn't an absentee owner; he put his blood, sweat, and tears into building Disneyland. It was through the sheer force of Walt’s will that Disneyland became a success. In Walt’s own words, the inspiration for Disneyland was during his trip to Europe when he visited Tivoli Gardens. Walt had a lifetime love for amusement parks, but Tivoli Gardens took this to a new level.
Understanding Disneyland's business model is vital to appreciating its financial journey. Building Disneyland was a massive undertaking that required significant financial support. But the financial needs didn't end there. Once Disneyland was established, it had to maintain its services and plan for future growth. This was a testament to Walt Disney’s innovative vision and commitment to creating a unique theme park experience for families.
If Disneyland were a charity, it would not have lasted very long. Charities operate on a different business model, and innovation and growth usually are not part of that model. Charities depend on gifts and donations, which would never have been enough to support Disneyland. The inspiration for Disneyland and the financial success are two different things. Part of Walt’s success was with the support of his family and friends. Why wouldn’t they benefit from its success? After all, Walt and his backers took considerable risks in building Disneyland. What is wrong with financial security?
I should point out that the complaints against Disney do not attack Walt or his success. The atmosphere of greed has become a part of Disney’s board of directors and stockholders. This may eventually come to bite them in the financial butt. Disney’s success with amusement parks depends heavily on people visiting the park. If it becomes too expensive, people will either not visit, or if they do, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime visit. In the days when it was somewhat reasonable to attend one of Disney’s properties, families would visit on multiple occasions. This develops a form of brand loyalty.
It is true that Disney doesn’t have a specific program for low-income families, but there is a list of things that can make a visit more affordable. The items on this list are too many to make a part of this conversation, and I’m sure they would not meet your approval for financial equity. This is a subject for another post. There is much more to say about this, but my fingers tire.
Let me finish with your assessment of me and my “class,” as you put it. My family came out of the Depression, where people were lucky to have enough to eat. My Granny was forced to quit school after the 7th grade to provide income by working. At one time, she picked cotton alongside our black neighbors, but being of a fair Irish complexion, she frequently passed out due to the intense Sun.
We were considered “Poor White Trash” simply because we did not have money. Back then, the opportunities for bettering your financial means were limited. When I first visited Disneyland, my father was in the Navy and made little money. My spinster aunt did have a good job working for the Air Force, and she contributed to our ticket purchases. However, no one in my immediate or extended family could be considered wealthy, and certainly, we did not qualify to be part of any class except the poor class. Disneyland, while not being cheap, was obtainable.
Larry from Texas
Wow. I remember paying just over $300 for the Premium Annual Pass. I was a passholder for several years from around '96 - '02. All the theme parks, water parks, Pleasure island and even parking all included. First in line at any character restaurant. Discounts at any Disney Store. Discounts for any on property resort stay. Then, little by little the prices for everything went up, perks kept disappearing and quality and fun started declining. Haven't been in over a decade now. haven't missed it.
This video sums up the entire experience. Pay $800 to ride 3 rides, and eat overpriced bland food and get exhausted the whole day
so, $1200 of income pre-tax? and how much sales tax? probably more tax than gets paid by the corporation and its officers.
"fiscal conservatives" say "don't feed the beast". man, WE ARE THE BEAST
Find when the park is least crowded (early September for example), stay at a value resort , don’t buy genie+ and it all works out to much cheaper. Skip the snacks and table service meals too. They add up quickly.
The visit is better to do any ride on the house at the theme park as long as the guest is payable for admission and usually parking.
@@finleythegolden2909 sure... or just go actually enjoy yourself somewhere else. unless "disney magic" makes it worth depriving yourself of anything else. not for me. GO TO KNOEBELS!!!
Imagine going to a store 5 minutes before it closes and complaining about getting bad customer service and being rushed to get what you need and go. that's essential to what they did, that is to say, they did it wrong.
We went to Disneyworld a few years back, and our biggest take away was that, for the "happiest place on earth", EVERYONE looked stressed and miserable. It was overly expensive, severely over crowded, stifflingly hot, there were no places to rest or sit, and other customers were all single minded and selfish, meaning that you had to have your guard up the entire time.
We had exponentially more fun at the Universal parks.
THat's great, don't go.
Based take. Universal Parks are amazing.
They should raise the price until it's not crowded. 20 minute wait time for the most popular ride.
Even though I really had a great experience at universal, I still don’t know why a lot of people say that universal studios has gotten way better than disney, when it’s equally expensive and crowded af as Disney. At the end of the day, both set of theme parks are great in their own way, and which is one better comes down to personal taste and preferences of attractions
Exactly. Universal is half the price and to me you get a better experience there then Disney. corporate greed has run wild at Disney. The movies that they’re putting out are not bringing in the revenue that they used to so they’re trying to make it up with the parks.
I remember reading a few years back that Disney intentionally raised prices to limit the number of people who can afford to go. This was their solution to overcrowding
Aaaand it's still overcrowded.
It didn't fix anything. If and if anything it's gotten worse.
Six flags did the same thing, even said they wanted to attract the kind of visitor who would spend more money in the park, which to me sounds a lot like "hey there're to many poor's in our park"
Well that can be a valid strategy. Holidays on the Maledives are exceedingly expensive for the exact same reason. In Singapore, not just driving, but even owning a car is so crazy expensive that they never have traffic congestion. The fact that this approach disadvantages poor people is of course an entirely different topic...
It worked. I went last summer and had the best time ever...out of maybe 15 trips
This vlog hit home because the last time my family of 6 went to Disney was in 2017 also. I can’t get over how greedy they have gotten over the last years. You are 100% correct, it’s just sad. I’m a little angry but mostly just sad like you said. It’s not how Disney was or how it was supposed to ever be. Thanks again!
The USA just elected a convicted Rapist to be the next President.
Morals and corruption are not priorities.
I feel like Disney is banking on people often having that “hey kids we saved up for a once in a lifetime Disney World trip” where they aren’t going often, so they assume it’s inflation rather that price gauging. They don’t have many prior experiences to compare to, so they don’t know better. It’s so sad, takes away from the Disney magic.
Disney dug its own grave. Its associated with pure consoomerism goy-slop now.
Disney World is infested with 30 year old adults instead of kids.
I doubt that this is so. It is far more likely Disney would prefer repeat customers. At Disney World, they clearly simply do not have the capacity. It is not price gouging because the price structure is necessary to maintain the basic premise of the park- that you can get tickets without a 3 year wait and have access to at least most of the attractions you want. If the prices were cheap as demand increases, the lines would become endless, the crowding insufferable, and simply being able to get into the park at all extremely hard for most people. There's no "Disney Magic" in that experience either.
You know what Disney thinks of their customers? Suckers!
It has to be a once, or maybe twice, in a lifetime vacation unless you are loaded
Sadly, it feels as if most Americans can’t afford a Disney vacation, ever. This is due to U.S. wage growth and Disney price increases
A day in Disney is like 3 months of rent for me... that's insane...
Bruh where do you live where rent is 150$?! My rent is 3200
@@ca7surferdon't play dumb Disney visit cost more then the ticket
If that’s the case you’re doing it wrong. A bit hyperbolic and unnecessary exaggeration on your part.
@@ca7surfer- Rent for maybe a 5 bedroom apartment or house? What city?
@@ca7surfer my rent is only $450 for a 4 bed, 2 bath house in a gated community with a guard and a maid that comes in weekly. You gotta move.
Disney is bleeding billions with streaming, the Disney channel and movies so I assume the park prices are one way they make up the costs instead of just improving quality. It's maddening knowing you can go to some of the most beautiful places on the planet for the same price or less.
I think they could really easily fix their streaming performance by backing off the pc agenda, but maybe they’ll learn their lesson eventually
@@ImReadyD151 It has nothing to do with "PC Agenda" no matter how much you tell yourself that. You see, most reasonable people aren't bothered by it. Unless they live in DeSantistan...
@@ImReadyD151 I couldn't agree more. They keep pandering to a non existent audience and pushing away everyone else. They scream about conservatives, men are bigots and whatnot, but it's everybody at the end of the day. The numbers prove that.
@@ImReadyD151”pc agenda” isn’t the real issue it’s more of a symptom. I’m sure you’ve seen at least one good movie or show that had a genuinely compelling character that fits that demographic. The real problem is out of touch studios listening to writers who don’t care about the source material they are adapting.
@@ImReadyD151lol sorry your super hero movie had an extra brown person in it buckaroo.
I live in Orlando and I remember a time not too long ago when Florida residence could buy a season pass for a year and get a free one with it. Even if you didn’t have a pass, there was usually a discount for Florida residents. Now there is absolutely nothing.
I think you answered your own premise. If its gotten "too expensive" its because there are STILL huge crowds and demand, until that changes, don't expect the prices to do anything but go up. That reminds me of the Yogi quote about nobody going to a restaurant because its too crowded. The park is now made for rich families with kids, not like it used to be, and any "normal" person that goes there will get sticker shock.
Exactly. And since Disney is a company and not some public property, they have every right to decide any price point they want to sell there product.
When they opened, Disneyland cost ~$10 to get in, this included the entrance and about 10 ride tickets. Walt Disney's intent was to build a marvelous place where middle class families could bring their children for an affordable vacation.
It reminds me of that scene in Jurassic Park where the lawyer says "we can charge whatever we want and people will pay it." and John Hammond responds "but I want everyone to visit Jurassic Park, not just the super-rich".
At some point, Disney stopped listening to the John Hammonds and started listening to the bloodsucking lawyers.
Honestly, it's baffling to me that people don't understand this. It's a business, and there are people willing to pay whatever for their product(even if they don't have the money). A business will push up their prices both to make money AND reduce demand to help create lighter crowds/even out demand throughout the year.
@@bmcclure3atgatech Right, but they don't HAVE to. Costco, by contrast, charges less than they have to for a lot of their products, such as hotdogs, to maintain customer loyalty.
As a result, I have a large portion of my retirement savings invested in Costco, and zero retirement savings invested in Disney. Ask me how my portfolio has done over the past five years.
Boycotting Disney could really do us all some favors, their monopoly is getting out of hand
I FULLY agree-100%. Mr Trump even recommended the same thing (not for disney). The problem is this is a cuntry of 300 million people living together that all hate each other. So we would never get any kind of unity.
Yuppp
Bro has a plan 💀
People should and are going to Universal instead, it's both better and more affordable.
Facts @@Voltaic_Fire
I’m gonna be honest, I do not understand people’s fascination with Disney… it is depressing to me that in just a decades time, Disney can double the cost of staying at their resorts and going to their parks and people just don’t care at all and keep going in droves. It would cost a family of 5 like $15 grand to go to Disney for a week these days. That’s like 1/3 of what the average american takes home in a year, blown in 1 week. Just to be hot, standing in queuing lines for 90+ minutes with screaming children, and the privilege to view overpriced Disney merch. Just, why.
All people do these days is complain about the economy and inflation and yet Disney is at record attendance.
It's pure nostalgia at this point. People either have never been there (but heard about it all their lives) or they went there 10+ years ago when it was still a pretty enjoyable place to be. Was it 'cheap' back then? No, but it was much more 'all inclusive' than it is now. They've managed to find ways to suck every last dime out of their guests, while offering less and less 'included' items and promos. Eventually, I think they'll start to see a slow down, as the Disney product itself gets more mediocre and the competition (Universal is coming hard for them with their own parks and IPs) gets better.
I wonder if there are more foreigners attending?
I remember that even as at 7 y/o in the early 2010 I thought "this place suck and doesn't worth the money" I never managed to see the "theme park magic", even as a child
American are horrible at managing money and taking responsibilty for there own actions. No i't is not social media fault for your over spending. I love how they seem to think boomer had everything given to me. You should of seen the dump I was staying in when I was in college in TX and paying $600.00 and had no air conditioning. That was a fun summer. Then interest rate were twice as high as now. I ended up joining the Army because I could not find a teaching job. Now day states are begging people to become teacher. They talk about how people could afford thing in the 1950, but we do not live even close to that life style anymore. I am going to pick on women because I am one. But in the 1950's only 7% of women colored there hair. Today is is 75%. If you are having someone color you hair every 6 weeks at $150.00 a pop that come to about $1300.00 a year. Well 10 years that is $13,000.00. So over your lifetime, stuff like daily $15.00 on lunch take-out can really add up. Two of the biggest waste of money is going out to eat and buying bottle water. Bottle water is just filter tap water. All this crap we buy also has to end up somewhere. So we are destroying our Earth buying things that might make use happy for like 5 minutes. Also in the 1950's most women used a little lipstick, rouge and eyeliner. Today the average American women will spend $350k on make-up over there lifetime. In the 1950 the average new home was 950sq ft. Today it is 2400sq ft. Most families in the 1950 had one TV, today 75% of American homes have 3 TV set or more. Even when you could afford things you did not just buy a new one. You saved the money instead. You learned to save because everyone remember how the depression was and how thing can change. In the 1950's the average women had 3 pair of shoes and one to 2 pair of boots (rain and snow boots) Today the average women has 22 pairs of shoes. People did not just replace things because they were discolored or looked old. Also people live though the depression and during WW2 every thing was strictly ration and almost everyone knew of someone serving. After going though 15 year of that just having some sense of normal was a welcome gift. . So much is about perspective. I grew up looking at picture of my Mom in publoc school in GA and she and her sister were the only kids who had shoes. In fact she talked about how one year her parent paid so all the kids coukd get toothbrushes and toothpaste and the teach had to give a lesson because most of the kids never had one or seen anyone use one.
But people need to wake up and see what the conservatives have in store for us by looking at what has and is happening in Great Britain today. The 15 years of conservatives economy has ruin the place with there huge cut to deal with the deficit they never fixed ( but cut social program by 40% over the last 10 years) and there" Britain first" with leaving the EU ruin there trade and been a total distaster. You do not improve things by just poping out a nice slogen and basically make it harder and more expensive to trade with your biggest trade partner and call it a sucess. In fact people in Hungry on average are making 10,000 pound more a year on average today then people in GB. That would be unheard of 15 years ago. They basically let every thing fall apart and and neglated everything so they cannot even maintain services like delivery because they let the road ect go. . When no one shops then the jobs go. Basically because the government just cut funds down to nothing and infrastructure has been totally ignored these small town look like they are back in the 1950's. GB had a lot harder time recovery after WW2 then we did. Meanwhile the deficet stand because they gave the rich a huge tax cuts instead of dealing with. Well that is the Republican plan also. If they had there way they would not even want publoc schools or affordable healthcare. Meanwhile while we get distracted over prayer in school or what books children can read ( basically personal choice politician should keep there noses out of) those politican pushing this crap are doing so, so you do not notice they are not governing for the people and instead kissing up to their biggest donors. Sort of like Sen Ran Paul and when the Senate first talk about getting rid of Tic Tox. Well Sen Paul shut that down. Why? Well his biggest donor who gave him lile $1.3 million in donations and owns 13% of tixtox stock sold in the USA asked him to shut down the discussion if he keep wanting to get donations. But that sound honest and no curroption hear. Yet I bet people just vote for him. American need to find out who there politician get there money from and how it effect their voting. This is open information and people need to be doing 10 min of research before they vote instead of just voting by party. Yep there is some bad Democrats also. Like this mayor out of Haywood IL. That women is so corrupt. But if we the people want this place to be run by the people we need to do better on watching who makes our laws. Also the laws that effect you the most are the state laws and local. Not the federal laws. 95% of your problem that are government related are going to be at the state or lower levels. Meaning if your state suck, that does not mean the rest of the country does and thus the feds have nothing to do with it. American would do themselves a huge favor knowing what and who is responsible for what in there country. The President is not responsible for your street flooding. That is the city. But every dictorship happens because people at the bottom think there lives will get better. Well remember they can get 100 time worse and many time it is better to be grateful for what you have.
@@fruity4820Year it is probably best for kids from 5 to 10 years old. Before 5 years old they will have fun but not really remember it. After 10 years the kids might be good for a day but would probably be bored with the ride ect. With all these complex video games and stuff it can be harder to impress the kids today. But to me going the the MN state is more fun. If you get you ticket a few days before they open it is like $10.00 for all day. $100.00 is going to give you enough food and rides to be thoughly sick and ready to go home. They also have were they have a lot of free parking a few miles from the fair ground and have free shuttlee to the gate. They come like every 15 min. Then every year they have new stuff and it is always fun to check out the animals. But if I had kids Disney would be a once in a lifetime trip because we would only do it once😂. I would rather take my kids on a 4 day Carribbean cruise and see some of the world.
Great video, also watched the Luxor one too (amazing that place hasn't been leveled yet). Liked and subscribed, nicely done!
Wife: "I want to go to Disney World!"
Me: "I want to pay off the car."
ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT
"I want to pay off the house" levels coming in 2028.
2040: OK dear, ill sell my kidney...
wise man.
You pay off the house, then she files for divorce, keeps the kids, keeps the house and sells your car and makes you pay child support 😅
My parents met while working the Canadian international program at Epcot during the 80s, and they returned to WDW for their 30th anniversary in 2023. Even with that insane nostalgic connection, and even after leaching off of friends who still work at and around the parks for freebies and discounts, they were flabbergasted at how much they spent in comparison to family trips they took during the 2000s and 2010s.
Their main takeaway was that they're much more likely to vacation elsewhere. They told me that if Disney can't keep a couple like them who have sentimental history with the parks as loyal customers, how is Disney going to expect continued loyalty from anyone? The pull will eventually wear off as the price tag keeps rising with little improvement to show for it.
They don't need loyal customers. There are hundreds of millions of future tourists to the US who will go and millions of upper class families who reside in the US who can easily afford all the add-ons.
@@aoe4_kachow this is the answer. They don't care about retention, or quality or giving customers value because theres always that family whos never gone and are willing to drop 15-20k on their Disney world vacation.
@@aoe4_kachow People thought the MCU was too big to fail just a few years ago, too, and I reluctantly believed them at that time. Now I know better than to underestimate just how much a negative reputation can chip away at a brand. It may take years though since some people need to experience the disappointment of modern WDW themselves to know how bad it is.
I went to the Magic Kingdom Feb 13th for the first time in 10 years. I didn't go until 4PM and was surprised to learn that they no longer had the discounted tickets if you were at a Disney resort for a conference. Then I went straight to Tron to ride, but I had to ask the employee which line I take. She said, "do you have a paid reservation or a free one?", and I told her I didn't have a reservation. She then told me"I'm sorry but you won't be riding today". I love the parks, but I feel like they have gotten to where there main objective is how much money they can get from each guest.
Actually turning you away from ride is what Disney WANTS
The less rides you get to do in a day, the more tickets you'll have to buy for a CHANCE to ride them the next day
Disney has learned that keeping lines as long as possible makes them more money
Stay away from Disney
This is something super common with themed parks, sadly. I live near a big park and the amount of money visitors spend is astounding. I used to work in a hostel nearby and people were genuinely excited to go (many came from other countries too), until they returned in the evening and told me how much they spent and how little they enjoyed the place. A family of four spent 100 euros for "skip line" tickets and despite that they waited hours to get to the rollercoaster, to me it's insane and also sad, since the park used to be super affordable and fun once...
It's amazing how many people are willing to put up with the lines at all. It's kind of insane...considering you're paying a hundred dollars a person just to get in the door and get the chance to stand in those lines. But it's unavoidable, I guess.
The reason the tron ride is operates this way is because the parks are way too crowded…it would have a waiting line across all of Tomorrowland. When the reservations open on the app at 7am, you have about 10-15 seconds to opt in or all reservations are given out for the day.
The parks are less fun because they’re too crowded
I purchased a discount conference ticket in September. It was still $89, but better than $150.
I used to live near Disneyland (Anaheim). I went in August 2008 and for some reason never felt the need to return.
$285,000 can get you a real home. Not some fake castle.
If you are buying a diamond encrusted castle, you probably have a enough houses
ummmmm...some people, like me....would like a fake castle and not a real home.
@@dmullz100 😆
Hmm I don't think you can find a good home with this price anymore....
@@bessabessa3795 yeah in Alabama or Mississippi
My dad worked for Disney World for 10 years and when Covid hit in 2020 they said he would be able to come back eventually but he eventually got laid off. They waited months to even tell my dad about it. I would have never gone to the parks my whole life as a kid if my Dad didn’t work there. Even when I was a kid in the 2000’s it was too expensive for my parents to pay out of pocket. Compare it to now and the prices are astronomically high. Disney does not want the working class to be able to afford Disney anymore. They have shown this with getting rid of free fastpasses and implementing Genie+ I used to love Disney but they lost my respect.
Same it really sucks now I can’t even afford it anymore
You said it. Weeding out the poor.
I feel like, no matter how much we lie and kid ourselves, there will always be a love for Disney as an arthouse- the bold, the brave, the beautiful.
Disney as a corporation, ever since... well, depends who you ask; for a while now, they have trampled over the image of the art. Now, even the art has become formulaic, dull, and predictable.
As much as I hope for another Renaissance to give the creatives some breathing room, we can't count on luck. Such is life.
...On the bright side, at least Universal's Orlando parks are still vaguely affordable, even if they are premium.
They didn’t already lose your respect when they decided writing fun kids movies was no longer important but instead pushing politics and activism?
@@jasonbfhfj8132 oh boy, here we go again......
My mom wanted to take me to Disney World for my senior graduation, since we’d be nearby.
It wasn’t until I walked in on her in TEARS because she was barely getting by saving up enough money for the trip that I realized how bad it was. I had to convince her that it was okay if we didn’t go and we’d still have fun in Florida, because I just couldn’t bear to see my mom stress herself over something so obviously predatory.
Screw you Disney, for ruining my favorite franchises and your outrageous prices.
I live in California, and Disneyland is incredibly expensive, it’s clear that Disney doesn’t care about customers only cares about the money! Which is why I can’t recommend it to to the average consumer!
Why in hell would anyone pay all that money to those Woke Nutcases?
We had to pay several hundred dollars for ONE day, ONE park for two people.
As native Europeans visiting Florida it was a real turn off.
Sure those monorail are cool the first time you see them, but prefer going to Disneyland Paris.
Still expensive, but not as outragious as Florida.
Go to Busch Gardens in Florida. Lots of fun!
Also, go for Thanksgiving, and pray for lousy weather. 🤣
I wasn’t happy with Disney World 20 years ago, the fast pass helped, but the magic is precious little. I would never pay for their overpriced streaming or anything else, what a waste of time.
Life’s too short for global finance’s embracing tech BS, making life tedious scraping every dime off, it’s work, not a vacation. I’ll take horses in Banff.
I visited LA in 1986 coming from Yugoslavia. Was it called Disneyland then?
I just got back from Disney World this week. My 65 y/o parents said without help they’d never be able to navigate the park, dining, lightning lane, etc. Crowds and lines were insane and we hurried to leave before the fireworks so we wouldn’t get stuck. It was an experience. I’m not sure yet how I feel.
It sounds like you had fun.
Please don't bring kids and old people to Disneyland. Only Disney Adults are allowed
@@stellviahohenheimthat’s cringe and sad
trust me as a Florida native who had to go to a Disney field trip every single year you won’t get stuck from the fireworks just wait for the first wave of people to go by it takes like 5 minutes, it’s pretty worth it to watch especially if you traveled from another state or country
I was there last weekend. Did you deal with the rain last Saturday and Sunday?
My last 6-day-vacation to France was about the same price as that one day at Disney. And I stayed in a very nice vacation house, explored a real castle, and ate great French cuisine the whole time. And I had my peace and quiet, there were no crowds, the longest wait was in the bakery on the weekend, perhaps 10mins. It's insane to spend that much money on one (or two) days, there's not even merch included. And paying thrice for one ride? Goodbye!
And also, you have Disney Land outside Paris that is pretty ok also. If one really like those things.
@@wowJhilAnd it’s a lot more affordable than US Disney!
I went to Bordeaux, it cost me 1600 $
I guess if you stayed in a hostel in France. Otherwise nope
@@dsjjmv7546 Not really, you can find affordable rooms in hotels or guesthouses as well - keep in mind it doesn't have to be a 5-star one in a big city. If you stay at one of the small towns on the coast and not the more popular destinations like Nice, Cannes, Marseille etc, it's a lot more affordable. Also if you go off-peak it's cheaper. And for Southern France it's great - mid-summer is way too hot there anyway, but you can get good deals for a holiday in May or September when it's still nice and warm.
I can't think of a single reason why I would want to visit this tawdry amusement park at any cost. This isn't corporate greed anymore. It's an obscene gluttony!
We had friends who shoed horses and rebuilt their automobiles; THEIR kids had so much fun they never even ASKED to go to Disneyland! FIX IT SHOPS AND HORSES can be educational AND fun.
Look up above your comment; Those who visited Disneyland in TOKYO saved allot of money!
With all of their profits and land purchases evident, you'd think they could have provided a WAITING ROOM WITH CHILD CARE FACILITIES for those people instead of CRAMMING them all in to suffer!
Welcome to the new America; Charge more, provide less, make profits your goal!
The Disney of the 70's was great as it was, but then EVERYTHING gets expanded upon to make money to be followed ?
Perhaps if the space aliens could come here to intervene before mankind shoots itself dead in the foot, there could be hope. WE pray if Walt can "return to us " someday, he could design a BIG ANTI WAR MACHINE for us!
Ha, I guess enjoying riding you own little Shetland pony would have not incited enough excitement and would have required skill?!
Better to dream of mice that talk and bears that are stuffed, and rockets that soar in the air and kill people, right ?
If Disney had KEPT designing more rides LIKE The "Pirates of the Carribean,", and "displays with dissertations" such as, i.e. like, the Abe Lincoln speech, it seems more of Walt's ORIGINAL IDEAS might have continued successfully! "This world, That world,"and expansions etc. may not have done allot to help "educate children" as Walt had thought! (Just my opinion regarding "education versus entertainment!) Of course it DID successfully provide more JOBS for employees!
One former commenter said " consumerism crap" WE term that MARKETING PLOYS, ha...sorry, seems Disney has disintegrated, ha!! I DIGRESS.
"Poor Walt," is all we can say. A man who love children and telling stories , influencing their imagination...I just bet HE , himself wouldn't have a very good time visiting his own parks these days. "The Pirates of the Caribbean" characters and the "Lincoln Speech" were worth seeing, (but not worth a $5000 vacation! )The lines and the crowds, not so much. WE visited Anaheim decades ago, and Orlando, decades later, but all we here these days is "Wow, we could have spent our money on much more enjoyable activities", but then marketing schemes have brainwashed our children continually through the years. OUR character doesn't like mice (Though Ramatoulie was cute!) and would rather have a live Shetland pony, than any types of stuffed animals!And for the prices at Disneyland, allot of families could fix up that back yard to provide experiences for their children!
My friends and I have found the humor in the whole concept of " Visiting Disneyland!" ...Our character, a little eight year old girl, says to her parents when her classmates all scream out " Disneyland for a birthday party", " I want to go where man has never gone before!-- HOME!" When we called the copyright office to copyright her, the clerk said in looking for the correct forms to submit, " We haven't copyrighted a character such as this since Walt copyrighted his Mickey Mouse!" We had to file our character's music, stories, and theatrics under one name, so she became "Honey Unlimited!" "Her" songs are at You Tube &Soundcloud; She later became "carved in stone" too! (Since she "stars" in five musicals-she'll always be TOO BUSY to want to visit Disneyland!)
We were on the set when Bob Brunner was helping film " The Apple Dumpling Gang" with Dallas McKennon...I remember Dal introducing us to Don Knotts in the cafeteria that day-was a " memorably creative" day! (Bob was the orchestrator of Bambi, a very nice man, and personal friend from the Church of the Latter Day Saints, in Brentwood,CA ).Bob predicted this $$$ could someday become $$$Disastrous!
"Lost in a Song About You" from "Beauty is as Beauty Does" the musical comedy.
"Time Goes By" from Honey Visits With the Famous First Four" (The "Presidents' Story)"
Lynda Faye's Little Blue Mermaid" the musical for children in Spanish, French & Italian with sculptured mermaids.SeaponyMermaids by LyndaFaye@Gmail. (K-12 San Diego Unified)
out of all the comments this one affected me the most, super potent choice of words “obscene gluttony”
Disney is corporate greet at its finest.
But see....its not DISNEY'S fault!
It's the herd of sheep that GO AND SPEND on these parks!
Let's get real! IF YOU had a chance to over charge people over and over for a product and get insanely rich.....YOU WOULD DO IT IN A HEARTBEAT!
If you wanna blame something...blame capitalism, nostalgia, desire to please your family!
It's a BUSINESS! I don't go to DISNEY anymore...it feels like chore!!
@@roberthouston3809 I don’t think I would, Robert, but I’m not in that position to say for sure. I can say I haven’t purchased anything Disney for more than 30 years!
Bright Sun Travels was included as part of a CNBC segment regarding Disney World. The segment showed that since 2014, the price of a 1 day ticket was up 56%. Comparatively, consider that inflation since 2014 has increased 32%. The annual visitation rates each year from 2020 through 2023 are still lower than any other year prior to Covid going back beyond 2013.
what really pisses me off is Disney artificially increases the wait time by holding stand by guests to force people to purchase Lightning Lane, I've witnessed this numerous times, as CM made us wait even though there was no one in the LL line up
they also let like 50 Lightning lane parties go through then only let in like 5 stand by ones
Exactly. Last time i went i was stood in the lane for river rapids and they were letting about a hundred people on the fast lane before they let anyone in the regular.
You have to pay extra to be allowed to ride. To not have to wait 2 hours for one ride, Total bs.
Never giving disney a penny of my money ever again
What's sadder about this? It's not only your opinion, it's just straight up cold consequences.
Ride capacity is always fixed. So if you distribute more lightning lane like nothing tomorrow, you'll sacrifice the standby line quota so much and hold it so long, basically turns it into worthless choice.
The only thing that can alleviated it are either build new ride (expensive) or just back to basic paper fastpass (disney hate it)
I think back in the FastPass days you would get four Pass parties to one Standby party. Now with Lightning Lane the disparity -- depending on ride load -- is anywhere from fifty or one hundred to ONE standbye party.
The frustrating thing is that it's totally justifiable. It sucks if you're in standby, no doubt, but imagine paying $100 for your five-person family to get on the ride and still having to wait 60 minutes.
Not that I think this should be happening-- FastPass was a wonderful solution to the problem that had crowd control built in to its ticket distribution, and it was *free*. They completely broke the system in search of turning a quick buck. The worst part is that it seems to be working for them.
Guaranteed the ride operators have a quota to meet on how many ride users paid for LL.
My husband hates, hates HATES crowds. The one time we went? October, 2001. People were still scared of flying because of Sept 11th. We got in and found no lines anywhere at all. We rode Space Mountain 19 times in a row.
What does he want? Go to an empty Disney for 10$? Jajaj
My family went after 9/11 too and always tell me how empty Disney was
@@ProfesionalAPprobably are lower income trailer park people
Genius
@jessdelasouzaAlso went to Disneyland during the pandemic. Best Disneyland experience of my life. It was worth every penny.
Went on a big Disney trip back in February 2022. The experience was miserable. Crowded, a million steps to do something as simple as get food, barely got on any rides. The next year, we booked a week-long cruise to Alaska. It cost only a little more than just the PARK TICKETS from the Disney trip, had way better food (complimentary!), incredible service, and was just a much better experience overall. I remember visiting Disneyland fondly as a kid, but I wont be back.
Agreed. WDW is just not affordable for the medium class family, whereas cruises are way more affordable. The included 3-5 course meals that you get on the ship and the places that you explore is way more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I used to work at WDW in 2018 and it is nice, but not at these prices they are charging nowadays. These prices are too high.
Notice how your first complaint is that it was crowded. Those people all paid the same price you did. If Disney raises prices and stayed crowded why would they lower them?
@@kayaddictedthey can profit and charge much less. The problem is the attitude that max profits are all that matters.
@@thej3799 -- This is a travel and entertainment company that we're talking about, not a utilities or pharmaceutical company. Disney isn't being greedy; its customers are being suckers.
@@mvmlego1212 no it goes both ways. It's customers are greedy so disney gets greedy because the fans will pay
Since I have not been to Disney since around 2010, this was a very eye opening video. A few comments...
First, I was frustrated, sad and angry all at the same time as you and Emmy went through the park...a park that had way too many people. This made me think that there should be some kind of limit to how many guests are allowed, particularly at busy times like Christmas. I recall the park closing to additional guests a few years back due to overcrowding. I am not sure how this can be addressed since people book these vacations, months and longer ahead of their trip. There are limits to character breakfasts and shows that are booked in advance, so maybe the whole place needs to have advance booking.
This brings me to my next observation/ thought. I paused your video at the different park passes. There were 4 options, and 3 of them were for Florida residents only, and the Incredi-pass, the most expensive, being the only one for out of state people. Those costs are unreal... as is a one day pass for a park. I think the last time I went the one day pass was maybe $75/80 per person.
As far as the rides go, damn, that Genie pass and the extra Lighting Lane thing sound like they made something that was easy with the (FREE) fastpass unnecessarily, overly complicated. Not only does it cost money, but to add cost for new or popular attractions? Are they f**king kidding?
I have been to Disney 3 times, and enjoyed each time, but it seemed that the crowds were always excessive, as well as wait times. But we went back. Your video showed a continuation of this phenomenon. Even through times of recession, people still keep shelling out the money to go to a theme park. Many people really CAN'T afford these trips, but find ways to charge them, or put the payments on hold. To me this shows fake prosperity, giving the impression that everyone is shelling out cash as if their wealthy and can do such on a whim, or through some planning. But, really, many people are being buried by vacation debt. I know it's a real thing because I have friends who are on that sinking boat.
...Jake, Very thorough and detailed as always. Emmy looks only partially thrilled. :)
As someone who was born and grew up in Kissimmee (very close to Disney), I'm baffled how greedy Disney has gotten. My mom was able to get the park hopper pass for all of us, including food, necessities, etc. for the amount that you paid during this trip. It's heartbreaking. I haven't been to Disney since 2017. They really lost my respect after they took away the annual passes, then destroyed Pleasure Island just to build Disney Springs (which is a mind-boggling expensive outlet).
Las Vegas did the same thing
It's not greed, it's inflation. Costs of everything have gone up. Like hello
@@schneemann-fy6gi It's not just inflation. He calculated this math and explains it in the video...like hello
@@schneemann-fy6gi from the calculations made in this video, inflation is being used as an excuse to be greedy.
"Inflation" is an uneducated answer and excuse.
Our family of three quit going to Disney in 2019. For all of the same reasons that you stated in your video. Like you we were family pass holders and fell for all the Disney traps. After the wife and I sat down and did real accounting of our Disney Vacations, like you, we started to compare the accounting with other trips. Since then no more Disney for us, we are traveling around the world and for a lot less money then ANY of the Disney trips from 2008 to 2019. We are heading to London for week this year and can't wait. Get out and see the world people! Its more fun and you will save lots of money.
Florida as a whole has gotten more expensive over the years, it’s not just Disney.
My next vacation will be a late fall 2024 road trip to Savannah, Georgia. My daughters and I will stay in a wonderful hotel, visit beautiful city parks and historic sites, and dine in amazing restaurants for a fraction of the cost of a Disney vacation. Disney World is so overpriced and is so yesterday.
Bro's going to london💀 hell nawwwh
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Yeah you can tour most of europe for roughly the same price. And see a lot more and learn a lot more and probably have much better memories.
Six Flags is a better deal anyway.
I would literally NEVER go here again. The amount of money spent for the bare minimum at this place is INSANE
For context the last time I went was in 2016 when I was 12, so I didn’t have to worry about prices obviously. But now as an adult, I’d literally never go back unless they change their ways. But even if I was super rich I still wouldn’t go because this place is a woke cesspool and I hate the political hill they insistently choose to die on at every chance they can get. Boom 🤣💀
Go To Universal Studios, They Really Want To Please The Guest To Make Sure They Return... Disney With Their Woke Trash Movies And Now Milking Their Parks For The Most Money A Person Could Ever Spend In A Day, To Recoup From Their Box Office Failures, That's The Reason Disney Parks Are So Expensive, BECAUSE THEIR MOVIES ARE BAD
Who cares about what you want, when your kid tells you that’s the only place they want to go, you go…
@@onlythebest3311 If you can't say "no" to your kids, that's a you problem
@@onlythebest3311 I Replace Disney With Harry Potter, So The Kids Have Better Standards