2019 Speed Queen Classic TC5 compared side by side to the TR5 Series washing machine
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Side by side comparison of the 2018 Speed Queen TR5 Series and 2019 Speed Queen TC5 Classic Series (brand new release, Short-hand TC5, Product Code TC5000WN, Model number AWN632SP116TW01). The new Classic Series is a hybrid of the old 2017 AWN432 and the 2018 TR5000. Watch this video for a TR5 and TC5 side by side comparison of features.
I purchased a TC5 before the pandemic and will never look back. It gets the job done in a timely manner and my clothes have never been so clean!
Hi, are you still happy with your washer?
@@BigRay910 I am very happy with the washer. We do 10-12 loads a week and still going strong..
I bought a tc5 tonight. The machine is epic! I’m soo happy with it. What a beast
@@areject17 hi is there a timer on the tc5? im between this and the tr7 and cant decide :(
@@royjohnson9043 I don’t believe there is a timer on it. I just turn the dials where I want them push start and walk away. I still love the washer tho. It’s amazong
Update: TC5 now comes with a full 5 year warranty on parts/labor.
Biggest difference is that those TR models don't clean worth a damn and the Classic does. For me, I fortunately bought my AWN432 at the end of 2017 before they quit making them. Love it.
@@mikemike4737 You must be a newbie. Do your homework, friend. It was all over the web and YT in 2018-19. More than one SQ dealer lost his franchise over those lousy machines.
What about the 2021 models ? You think those should be ok ?
@@OGCJ10 Depends on whether it's the 'classic', famous SQ mechanism or the cheapie one derived from the FL washers...
Well done comparison, finally someone who knows how to explain the differences and get it right.
I purchased a Whirlpool topload for my mom 3 years ago. I wanted to get a Speed Queen but the Whirlpool was about 40% of the purchase price. You get what you pay for. The Whirlpool got nothing clean. Whatever smells went in usually were still there. In the moments where it was actually running it sounded a bit like a sick dog. Several people overheard when it would start and asked what the sound was. I knew that I had made a huge mistake.
It was almost a relief when it broke after 40 days. I was so disgusted with it that I opted not to call for service. I never wanted her to have to use it again. I would never dream of selling the repaired piece of crap to anyone, so it got tossed. I found a dealer with Speed Queen and it was delivered and set up the next day. It’s amazing how clean everything came out and how fast it did it. I basically wasted $400 to learn what I knew to begin with.
I’m glad to see the Classic design has returned without the lid lock.
Keith Whitmore I had the same situation, and it would lock up your clothes hostage! . Love my speed queen.
I paid 280 with shipping for my Panda, plus the hose, so pretty much 300 for a reliable small washing machine. Couldnt find a legit older speedqueen locally.
Can I ask which models you both got? Think I'm going to focus on Speed Queen only & figure out which model I want.
@@Mandy_39 You want a much older one, possibly a laundry mats retired machine.. Dont let the dealers fool you, lookup replacement parts on new speedqueens, they arent the same as the old.
Yes I have one that is ^ yrs. old I hated it from the beginning never gets all the water OUT & 1 load takes forever to wash. I'm now going to buy the S.Q. like I wanted in the first place.
A great feature is that it can run hot water direct from the water heater without mixing cold if you want it.
I temped a hot wash load with a lab-calibrated thermometer last night, and even with a few seconds of tap cold in the pipes before the tank water arrived, I had a 138 degree wash. That's the temp of well-done beef.
@@mikemike4737 TC5000, AWN632-model. The HOT setting does run the hot tap only for the wash cycle.
I don't know how much more durable you can get than the TC5 machine. There are some forty-year-old machines in the corner coin laundry, basically the same machine.
I replaced a 29 year old Maytag with a Whirlpool top loader. One year later, the Whirlpool washing machine was beyond repair. After some research, I bought the Speed Queen TC5. In my opinion, the extra cost of the TC5 is worth it. I am sort of glad that only one classic model exists, because it makes shopping so much easier!
I bought a bravos xl 14 months ago. Same results…. Fill valves, splines on shaft, when mother started puking oil plastic grease, it went outside. Modern appliances are make to self destruct. Hopefully the speed queen will be different.
I bought a tc5 tonight. The thing is epic! I wouldn’t trade it for a tr5
@@areject17 After owning a TC5 for some time now, I wouldn't even consider a different machine .
@@driftlesshunter9200 yeah, soo far I love it
Just purchased the classic washer and dryer today since they brought it back. I held out replacing our aging units and it paid off. I knew I didn’t want that horrible machine they tried to push off on us. Good for you speed queen for bringing it back and finding away to work around these dumb EPA requirements.
Is the Classic really better? It has only 1/2hp motor but it does have a transmission. The other has a motor twice as powerful at 1hp but no transmission.
How long has the transmission been in use?
@@707SonomaComa a long time. since about 2000
@@707SonomaComa By now, of course, we all know the 2018 model was a horrid mistake. That transmission goes back several decades in basic design. The horsepower is not relevant - totally different motors and drive systems, a comparison is not possible. One-Half horsepower has been the standard for heavy-duty top loaders for decades. Oh - and the 2018 model got the worst rating by Consumer Reports in their history.
@@ethelryan257 the he model speed queen is trash don't clean stains at all
The lid lock terrible the machine is trash horrible at cleaning I own a dry cleaning company I bought few of the lid lock models sold them huge mistake
Just purchased the AWNA62 (Black) in Australia, it has the main features of commercial grade metal transmission & 1/2 hp motor, and simple rotary switch controls.
I worked on commercial speedqueen washers & dryers as an apprentice electrician in the late 1970s and was impressed with the build at that time.
Finally bought one for myself, just fed up with the flimsy disposable things the other manufacturers are making.
Noel, they are truly the only affordable robust machine available in Australia. Our family purchased a 20+ year old refurbished Kleenmaid (by Speed Queen). It’s outdone any other top loaded we’ve owned, including the Alliance-manufactured Whirlpool from the mid 2000s.
I bought a tc5 today installed it and did my first load. I am beyond impressed! I would not buy the tr5 imo. Sure the tc5 is a little more aggressive. But I’d rather it be that way then not clean the clothes good enough. Also the tc5 has a 5 year warranty on everything. A 15 year warranty on transmission. And a lifetime warranty on the drum. How could you go wrong?!
Hooray for 2019 good job Speed queen props to you guys for bringing it back
Unfortunately Speed Queen hasn't informed its customers( and most likely the sales people) that the Tc5's Bulky cycle has gentle agitation, which totally eliminates the need for the tr series all together.
Well, except for those that would rather have an overbuilt washer with less moving parts...
Unless someone would like a machine that cleans great, is _always_ gentle on clothes without having to use a special setting, and has fewer moving parts; thus, making the machine inherently more reliable.
@@231mac turning a knob from heavy duty over to bulky... very exhausting 🙄
@@michaelremillard2215 You misspelled 'unnecessary'...
@@231macI did consider that before ultimately deciding on the TC5. The TR series basically relies on moving the entire tub and changing direction, which means its more likely to burn out the motor. So, not exactly "more reliable". The transmission is another point of failure but Speed Queen also warranties it for 15 years, meanwhile, your motor will be out of warranty after 7 years. Even if the motor doesn't burn out, the higher HP motor will put more stress on the electronics, which mean the electronics are more likely to burn out.
The TC5 is the commercial version. You could easily get 15 years out of that machine. With minor maintenance such as a belt change. They have actually been running that same drive train since 1997.
The TR is even more robust than the TC. Literally just a motor and belt-driven solid 1 piece drive shaft for the drum.
@@sinister184 The TR doesn't clean as well from what i've heard
@@Warp3326 I’ve owned both. TC does clean better if you’re a blue collar type worker, but most people would be perfectly happy with TR. It’s like 95% quieter, and uses less water.
@@sinister184 The thing is I've heard SO many complaints about the cleaning of the TR series though, but yeah you're probably right. The Quietness doesn't matter for my family as our laundry area is in our basement
@@Warp3326 like I said, I wouldn’t be my first recommendation for people who get especially filthy (even though I think it would do ‘fine’). I think the vast majority of people that complain about it 1) don’t own one 2) aren’t using it correctly or 3) are laundry purists that spent their whole life with direct-drive type washer, and nothing else will do.
I just did my first loads in my new SQ TC5 washer and dryer. I love the washer! It warmed my heart to see the water level high enough to wash and rinse the clothes so well. BUT my normal sized load of towels was still not dry after TWO HOURS! I had it on the Automatic Regular Max Dry and it took a full 2 1/2 hours to get them dry. I turned off the Extended Tumble after the first cycle because tumbling around in cool air wasn't drying the towels. For the next load, I weighed my towels and only did 9 lbs. It still took 2 1/2 hours for them to dry. For my next load, I did 8 lbs of jeans. I set it on the Timed Drying this time and after the full 75 minutes, they were still damp. I can't find a lot of feedback on the dryer, but I did wonder why the warranty was only 3 years when it is so much longer on their other models. What am I missing here? They are less than 48 hours old!
Something definitely sounds wrong there are you sure the exhaust on the dryer is connected correctly? If there’s any restriction in the air exhaust it will cause the dryer to take forever to dry the clothes because it cycles the heat on and off too quickly.
Just bought A TC5 It works great !
Any suds coming out of the drain pipe? How loud is it? We are on a 2nd floor condo. Also, is it rough on thin T shirts and gym clothes? our clothes don't get super dirty. Would you recommend TC or TR for us?
@@MOAB-UT If you’re clothes aren’t very stained or smelly then sure
@@maxsaviation9512 Would you recommend a TC5 or a TR5 overall?
@@MOAB-UT In my opinion the TR seems like the best choice for you but me personally probably the TC since working in a warehouse can get messy. It all just varies on soil level (how dirty your clothes are). They will both last you the same amount of time (I’m expecting) and built with quality. There is no wrong answer.
@@maxsaviation9512 Fair enough. Ordered a TC5.
I’m wondering why they would eliminate the load size selector switch; doesn’t make sense not to have one.
Basically, the DEEP FILL option is the load size selector. A large load on deep fill, a small load without it. I seldom run a small load.
Mr Scottie 68 ~ Exactly! The primary reason i'm looking at SQs is because i don't need a machine or the EPA telling me how much water is appropriate for my laundry. Every washer used to have a load size dial.
My recently deceased Whirlpool had a load size selector. When looking at the water levels for each it seemed to be only two. Small was nearly half, medium was maybe another one inch of fill, and large was as the SQ deep fill. So, the lack of a load size with the SQ isn't a problem for me.
No doubt
Tc5 all day. Its the standard for a reason.
Good video! Explained details that I had wondered about.
thank you very much for the review glad they brought back the old style after reading reviews on the new models wish it had the water level thats a let down but I still think I may go with it
looking forward to more reviews before i make choice
The TC5 automatically fills to a medium water-level on all cycles. But by selecting the "deep-fill" option... you'll get an ex-large water-level. GO for the TC5!
@@websurfin9575thanks for the info. Good to know. I think I'll go with the tc5 over the tr5.
@@mammydammy The TR models of Speed Queen are a total waste of money! The Speed Queen model: TC5 CLASSIC washer is the ONLY SQ washer that gets laundry clean! The TR model SQ washers are a WASTE of money!
Purchased the TC5000WN on 8/19/19. Today, on 9/9/19 it flooded my laundry room floor from the bottom of the machine. I hoped it would last a little longer than that. Waiting on repairs in about 10 days. It did a great job on my laundry while it was working. I love it, but am very disappointed it failed me so soon.
The day I bought mine the tub was cleaning all the way to the right against the cabinet and I have to have new suspension springs installed when they come in
sounds like it was installed improperly
Sorry that happened to you. Do you still have the machine- was it just a hose that came undone under the machine? Would you recommend a TC5 or a TR5? We are on a 2nd floor condo- have some delicate clothes- prefer not too loud. Did you ever get the suds issue coming out of the drain pipe?
I just bought a TC5.
In 2024 theyre hard to find.
The last of the great, old school washers
how do you like yours? im betweem the tr7 and tc5 and cant decide
Thanks for making a decent washing machine. I am an appliance technician and I am soooo tired of giving consumers the bad news on the junk I am seeing in the market. The Speed Queen unit is the only unit that I recommend if one is buying new. And, I usually recommend the TC5000wn series.( No lid lock)
Thanks for the advice but the size of SQ is only 3.4 Cu. - Vs LG WT7305CW 4.8 Cu, Samsung WA44A3205AW 4.5 Cu, GE WT7305CW 4.5 Cu. I need agitator option. What do you think is the best pick?
@@rhoodj samsung n GE washers have DREADFUL reputations.
Would you recommend a TC5 or a TR7 for someone who is on a 2nd floor condo- have some delicate clothes- prefer not too loud. I am a little worried about the suds overflow issue some are having on the TC5. Not sure if that happens on the TR7.
I just purchases the TC5 washer and matching dryer. Did my research and also had past experience with Speed Queen. I expect this set will outlast me.
what made you go with the tc5 vs the tr7?
2019 model uses a centrifugal drain pump too, which functions better and does not cost as much to replace.
I can't wait to see the side-by-side wash action on heavy-duty!
Just bought the TC5000WN at Smith Appliances in Marietta, GA. I've had HE machines from GE and LG, and the GE barely outlasted the warranty. LG did a bit better by longevity, but when it broke, the manufacturer-supplied replacement hubcap wouldn't fit the splines. I never expect to need to replace the SQ.
I am sure you will have many years of trouble free service with your TC5 Speed Queen washing machine. Our top load Speed Queen of similar design with a transmission is about 10 years now works great and has been problem free. My mom, brother and sister also have Speed Queen top load washing machines and they are feel the same way, they are great machines! Speed Queen is in a class by themselves as far as build quality goes, best build quality of any washing machines on the market today!
@Ronald McFondle At its core a washing machine is a heavy duty mechanical device. Its the kind of technology that takes years of development and refinement to provide trouble-free operation over a long period. But washing machines are now being made by manufacturers that's culture and expertise is in electronics, like smartphones, which doesn't crossover well to mechanical technology. That experience tells them that everything possible needs to be made out of plastic while metal is for decorations to make it look attractive. So inside today's washing machines are plastic houses of cards.
@Ronald McFondle Everyone seems to be going downstream in build quality. Speed Queen I think has maintained at least a semblance of qualitu. Pretty familar with a lot of those machines. Many people have had problems with Samsung. Decided to give the LG's a try. 4 toploads, 4 dryers in an apts I own. Could not believe how flimsy they were built. Installed them myself. Flabbergasted how cheap the wiring harnesses were. Had to assemble many of the components to install. As far as dissembly o work on what a nightmare. Keeping fingers crossed.
That Maytag has microns of thickness of porcelin on the panels or maybe it is paint. Drop a dime on it or look at it and it chips.
I bought a GE top loader HE washer, it first broke at 6 months and totally died at 3 years. Also had to run loads twice often to get them clean. Then I went oldschool, bought a 1987 Maytag washer on Craigslist. It already had new belts on it and I haven't had any problems for the 3 years I've had it so far. It's a tank and cleans everything the first time!
@@smitastic7030 Yeah, those old school Whirlpool, Kenmores, Maytag were well built, almost bullet proof. Fast forward to today with two major problems a lot of the machines are junk from overseas and the American manufacturers are cheapening their product to compete AND the govt. got in the way by both bribing and penalizing the manufacturers to use less electricity and water. It is especially bad with the topload washers, unless you can bypass the default settings, because there is not enough water in there to wash a pair of undies.
Why does having a transmission mean a lid lock isn’t needed? Is it bc it’s easy to stop quickly when you open the lid or something?
*Because it has a tub break.*
Tc5 does have a 5 year parts and warranty now
I've had the TC5000 since May, 2019. I wouldn't change a thing.
Me too i like it
How is it better than TR model? Which one cleans extremely dirty work clothes and stinky sweaty workout clothes better? We are looking to get one summer 2021... so which one is the real tough heavy washer? How much do they cost?
@@michaelcraig9449 Hi, Mike. I chose the model AWN632SP119TW01 (product code TC5000WN) over the TR models based on reviews of the TR models on UA-cam and my own experience with the machines at the coin laundry about a tenth of a mile from my house.
I would recommend looking up the reviews of the 2018 Speed Queen TR-series washers.
I had owned two "big-box store" type "High Efficiency" machines (those that claimed to be able to clean clothes in a water level that doesn't cover the clothes), and found that the GE Hydrowave Infusor machine barely outlasted the warranty and the LG CW1101 was a tremendous water hog. Neither machine cleaned the clothes adequately, neither could maintain a balanced load, even when loaded precisely according to directions, and both banged the tub against the cabinet so hard that the machines shifted their position in the laundry closet. The LG lasted a few years longer than the GE did, which isn't saying much.
The LG crapped out (the wash plate came loose from the drive splines) about the time the TC5000 reviews were hitting UA-cam.
I was on my way out the door to buy a cheapo Roper or Amana washer at Home Depot on Saturday, 11 May, 2019 when I decided to check the UA-cam reviews again. There was the TC5000 review, and I was at Smith Appliances in Marietta, Georgia with my credit card on the lid of the showroom TC5000 before the salesman finished greeting me.
The TC5000 shares its mechanical components with the Speed Queen and IPSO and Huebsch (other brands made by Alliance Laundry Systems of Ripon, Wisconsin, and yes, i have seen the IPSO and Huebsch machines in coin laundries near my house). The nearest coin laundry to me replaced all their old (1950s vintage) top-load Speed Queens when I was in college, some forty years ago, and those machines are mostly still in service, though they have replaced four with the IPSOs.
The TC-series Speed Queen machines are entirely different from the TR-series, with a heavier duty suspension for the mechanical components, an all-metal transmission, and a tub brake, so that the wash action stops immediately or the basket stops within two seconds after the lid is opened; the TR machines use a lid lock.
As for wash action, the independent reviews of the early model TR machines reported less-than-satisfactory cleaning action (look up Lorraine Appliances ketchup test).
I work for a consulting engineering company and spend a lot of time grinding Georgia red 'clay' (not exactly clay, but the name has stuck), concrete, grease, and grime into my work clothes. I have a middling-big, very friendly dog, a house and garden usually in need of some sort of maintenance, and I sweat profusely while working. My clothes are cleaner coming out of the TC5000 than they ever were in the GE or LG machines.
The odor removal, I think, would be as much a matter of what laundry detergent you use (I use the Sam's Club
ULTIMATE CLEAN POWER PACS), but Baldurdash the Wonder-Elkhound doesn't complain.
There have been complaints from some quarters that the TC5000 doesn't turn a queen-size comforter over, and my response is, that's what the front-loaders at the coin laundry are for; I don't have any .
I can wash two queen-size microfiber plush blankets in my TC5000 with adequate rollover to clean and freshen them.
Lorraine Appliances' review of the TC5000 expressed some disappointment with the ketchup test results; how often do you do the laundry after filming a slasher mock-snuff flick?
Noise? Not as quiet as the LG was new, but since May of 2019, it hasn't gone out of balance. The hum of the electric motor is present, but I don't hear it in the adjacent kitchen or bedroom.
There has been some comment on the water level selection: normal fill (roughly equivalent to medium on a sixties-vintage machine) and "DEEP FILL", adequate for a full wash load. I seldom run a small load.
Another consideration, most of the HE machines will moderate the temperature of the so-called hot wash option, to a lukewarm temp (around 90 degrees F); the SQ does not mix cold water when the hot wash is selected, and when I checked, the hot water in the washer was 138 to 142 degrees, the same as the water from the bath tap, the same temp as well-done beef.
Price? I paid about $1140, delivered and installed.
The projected 25-year durability and superior performance over anything the big-box stores can offer make the TC5000 a great value,
@@michaelcraig9449 The TR model washer has the stainless-steel tub & the agitator as 1 piece that does NOT turn independent of each other. Thus.... the laundry does NOT pull under the water or get clean! The TC5 "Classic" washer is the original design with the stainless-steel tub & the agitator as 2 separate components in the washer. The CLASSIC TC5 model gets laundry super clean!!
@@5610winston I actually read that all because it was very informative & a repair man on TikTok recommends SQ lol. He said LG & Samsung gives him job security haha. I love Samsung tvs & phones are ok but I'd never, ever buy a Samsung big appliance! I'm having so much issue deciding on an agitator vs not & I just don't see how they clean well w/o. I've said this whole last year I'm about to buy an old school used set from a repair man that fixes & cleans them up because more often them not all these bells & whistles, LED lights, look ok on newer models but it's 1 more thing to break & give me a headache. SQ seems to have it figured out, classic look but not dingy if that makes sense lol. My brother & his whole family is in Georgia so I know exactly what you mean with the red "clay" lol. I love Georgia! So your happy with your decision or if you had to do it over would u get a different SQ model or get something else altogether?! Thanks for the great input!
TC has a bumper to bumper 5 year warranty in 2023.
We desperately need those classic designs in Panama.
After seeing the TR5 in action and its inability to turn clothes over is a deal breaker for me. Speed Queen was wise to bring back the old design. Was about to jump ship to Maytag and get their one good (Commercial) top loader but we'll see.
We bought the Maytag Commercial a couple of years ago. It seems to have had a drive fail last week. More expensive to fix than to buy a new one. So here we are looking at Speed Queen.
@@AZRickD If you only bought it a couple years ago, did it come with a full 5 year warranty like the current models? Maytag warranty response at the least looks pretty good for the commercial model.
Trust me has nothing to do with cleaning cloths. Water quality and chemicals do the actual cleaning and will dictate any washers performance!
@@Channel-cm7yc That is not true. Have you watched the different videos and tests done here on the channel? Take a look.. don't just take my word for it.
SirtubalotTX I’m not taking anyone’s words on anything I have a 2018 TR-5 DR-5 set and it’s doing just fine. Me being a former appliance salesman and repairmen I qualify my comments with knowledge experience. Have a nice day!
I have one for 15 year old school good stuff 💯
Both units have 5 yr parts and in-house labor. Not sure why stated they are different.
Very well explained Terry, Thanks for the video and have a great night!!!
My next washing machine to replace my 1992 Whirlpool Direct Drive Washer will be the Speed Queen TC5 model.
Its a awesome washer
Did you get one and like it? I don't know which to get TR or TC. 2nd floor condo so noise is an issue and we have some nice delicate clothes.
@@MOAB-UT I ended with the TR7 model because my family wanted a model with the long warranty.
@@elevatorproductionsbymaxpassa Thanks. I am leaning towards TC5. What do you not like about the TR7 and why do you like the TC5?
They released the classic because the other doesn’t clean well.
Quite true sadly.
If loaded correctly the TR series washer will clean every bit as well as the TC model. People like to pack their washers which is stupid. In addition, most differences between the two comes to wash cycle designs and options. There are far more choices in the TR vs the TC. The perfect wash also doesn't wear out ones clothes like old school washers .The TC has slower spin cycles which I am not a fan of.
And we all know, today, that the 2018 TR was a disaster which didn't clean. I don't know what you mean by 'loaded correctly' - one already clean handkerchief?
Why defend a really bad washer?
@@ethelryan257 Actually incorrect on all counts. No Disaster at all. Thousands of happy owners. If the washer was a disaster as you claim which of course you are incorrect Speed Queen would have pulled the design out. However being that it does clean very well for those who know how to do laundry with this type of design. The only reason SQ brought back a similar old design from 2017 was smart marketing to appease those who want a washer which has more aggressive agitation for extremely soiled work clothing. Unless you are a heavy duty outside worker laboring in the trades getting just filthy dirty and don't like to sort laundry and follow the instructions of the new model. Then don't buy that one! Auto Technicians or other mechanical workers who do get lots of chemicals on their work clothes use and have uniforms services who have machines which are far more heavy duty than any homeowner washer and also utilize stronger chemical detergents to deal with that type of cleaning. I don't own a new Speed Queen and am not 100% sold on Top Loading Machines anymore. Considering front loader SQ or Electrolux.
@@garykarczewski6678
That’s just it, exactly.
I’m obsessed with washers, and I love trying all different designs… while trying all different designs, I’ve learned that different designs are best suited for different needs.
My husband works in a mine… the TR (and really no eco friendly/gentle/modern designs) get his work clothes clean.. for that excessive level of grime & grease, I need the TC. I need TRUE hot water (not mixed/temp controlled below 100 degrees like most washers), I need REAL agitation/real transmission, and I need a LOT of water.
If it was just me and the kids however, I would actually prefer the design, and features, of a TR…. It’s a great design, if you know how to use that type of washer, and your clothing soil levels are average or less than average.
TC is really only needed for truly excessive grease and grime, and I’m happy it’s available when it is needed… TR is a great machine too however, and I wish we could get away with having that style, honestly. More features and more control.
TC is just built like a work horse, and designed to destroy a LOT of grime. Which it does.
@@garykarczewski6678 Speed Queen did reprogram the TR's cycles to run longer in hopes of improving the cleaning action - so there was absolutely an issue with the early models. Further, I suspect that it's VERY likely they kept both models on the market to comply with EPA mandates - similar to how car companies have to meet MPG targets across their entire fleet of offered cars.
@garykarczewski6: I'm the TR SERIES WASHERS best cleaning results are obtained by always using the AUTO-FILL FEATURE which precisely matches the water level to the load. Also use top rated laundry detergents like TIDE HE TURBO DETERGENT.
TC5000 ALL DAY LONG!!!!!
Is it loud and rough on clothes? I lean your way too but we are on a 2nd floor condo. Noise is a factor and we have some delicate clothes.
which is better having a transmission or a belt drive? And why is that?
Yea, what's the difference?
I myself prefer a transmission. The motor spins one direction, the transmission converts that to a two direction agitation. The non tranny ones the motor is constantly reversing back and forth to agitate.
It is enormously harder to build a direct drive system to work as well as a transmission system for any length of time. You need a much stronger motor, for starters, and then you have to design the electronics and logic systems to cope as well as the motor to work with the heat. It can be done, and done well, commercial washers have done it for years. Just, Speed Queen managed to do it so badly in 2018, that it was given the worst rating in the entire history of Consumer Reports.
Generally speaking, the electronic systems need more servicing of their 'splutches' and belts and sensors, but done right, they can work equally well. Not better, as the top load system was perfected in the post WWII era and there is nothing left to improve.
@@ethelryan257 So which ones are better, and is more heavy duty, to wash a lot of heavy duty dirty man clothes? I get my stuff real messed up sometimes..
@@ethelryan257 Well said.
Thank you for the very informative review on the TC vs TR series. We just purchased the TC washer and TR7 dryer with the confidence plus extended warranties (not that we'll actually use them or need them). Nonetheless, far superior quality in workmanship, design, assembly, and longevity over our LG impeller HE washer & dryers (spoiler alert, they've started to crack, corrode, and breakdown mechanically, AFTER having 3 electronic boards replaced and a clutch motor.)
LG’s front loaders are better than their top loaders. I have a set and haven’t had any problems yet.
@@DnD_Robb404 You must have gotten units that was originally destined to go to Australia. By law the Australian government requires that machines from LG and Samsung (don't know of others that might be in the same category) have to last 10 years without major service. The quality of those machines is different from the ones made for the rest of the world. This comes directly from the mouth of an appliance repair technician which I have had the pleasure to speak with on occasion.
@@harryweyer6692 America needs a law like that
@@harryweyer6692My LG front loader washer needed service after just 3.5 years. It is too much to repair so I’m buying a speed queen this time.
@@harryweyer6692 bullshit!
Which is the best one for washing mens dirty clothes, dog blankets, dog towels, seriously dirty and stinky stuff like that? What is the difference between the TC5000 WN and the TC 5003 WN? I need to know I got to get a washer in the next couple days.
@michaelcraig9449: The TC 5003 has a longer 5 year warranty than the base 5000.
So what's the story on the LWN432 model? How does it differ from the AWN432 and the TC5?
Called 8 or 9 dealers in the Seattle area over the weekend, only one had any TC5s available. Needless to say I ordered one and it will be delivered in a couple weeks. For anyone who already has one, can the supplied drain hose straighten out at the end if you remove the plastic curved piece, and what is the diameter of the end of the drain hose? I think I will need to extend mine to reach the drain in my house.
How is your TC5? I was on the fence with the quieter TR7 but I think it is TC all the way!
I think it can, yes. It is small, about 1" but powerful. Be very sure it does not pull out if it goes in stretched and straight. Note, you cannot make it longer than I think 96" and going up about half of that or you will strain the pump. You also need to have some type of high loop above the level of the machine output or it will back drain.
So why does everybody like the older 1/2hp motor transmission style TC Series over the newer 1hp motor non-transmission style TR Series washer?
How long has Speed Queen used the transmission on their washers?
From the very first model made in the early sixties.
@@petermaz701 we got the new TC5000 Series washer & dryer.
@@707SonomaComa lots of luck! You made a great choice that transmission powered washer will give you many years of service they use them in laundromats dorms in the military on and on. I owned both versions.
@@petermaz701 yea, they're great. They may not be the super silent quiet type but just hearing them run is great. They sound solid, super heavy duty. They don't struggle or get stressed at all.
1) The 2018 TR was such a poor design, it didn't clean.
2) Our 1969 Speed Queen still runs perfectly and we've never had trouble with the transmission. This current design goes back to about the year 2000 and has a very good reputation.
Let's be clear: The problem is not the concept of direct drive, electronically controlled motors. Maytag Commercial washers use them and have no problem.
The problem is that the 2018 TR series Speed Queen was rated the worst washer in the history of Consumer Reports for very good reason.
At first, Speed Queen just fired agents and snarled at everyone who was unhappy. It cost them a lot of good will before they accepted that they'd made several horrible mistakes.
The TR design was overhauled with better software and other fixes after the 2018 fiasco. Still doesn't wash nearly as well as the transmission variant. Again, not that electronics or logic are inherently bad - the Maytag Commercial is an excellent machine, but Whirlpool had to make several upgrades there, too. The manufacturers have been using the logic to make up for cheaper, less well thought out designs. Speed Queen let their bean counters hurt a previously sterling reputation.
Is the spin cycle also a spin/drain? My front load samsung was full of water with no drain and spin cycle. I had to manually drain with a 5 inch long 1/4 inch hose and I never want to deal with that again.
Belt vs transmission; is one more durable or reliable than the other?
Does this work like the old style machines before all new water savings stuff got implemented I hate the new shit where they always go out of balance etc..
I've had my TC5000 a bit over two years, and my clothes come out clean, balance has never been a problem, and the cycle, including extra rinse, completes in under forty minutes. I have noticed the water bills since I got the SQ are lower (in terms of water consumed) than they were with the LG washer. I explain that by the fact that the LG wasted a lot of water draining, refilling, diddling, and repeat when it was trying to balance.
Thank you for sharing.
So to be clear, the TR5 is quieter, and has a more powerful motor but no direct drive transmission? Whereas the TC5 has a smaller motor, but has a direct drive transmission?
Damn, then the TC5 should be the only option. I grew up on classic Whirlpool/Kenmore direct drives and will never get anything else not like it.
Why should the TC be 'the only option' when the TR is overbuilt with less moving parts making it more reliable and cleans great?
Have you done a side by side comparison of how they wash? I'm debating between models but leaning towards the TC5000, but I wish it still had it's 10 year warranty.
There is a UA-cam video of exactly that. The 2018 TR fails. The Classic TC is awesome. I am so glad that Speed Queen came to its senses and went back to the old design.
@@techguy3507 thank you so much for this video! It helped me choose and I got the TC500 actually delivered today and I am so happy with it! I've only done 2 loads, but I'm very happy with it and have never been to express to do laundry in my life.
I'll update with my thoughts if I have any problems with it, but really happy for now. Thank you for your help!
Emili Whitney
A coworker taught me about Speed Queen. They are the best. My wife and I have a top loader upstairs and a SQ front loader downstairs. I'm so glad the good one, the TC, is being made again!
@@techguy3507 My understanding is SQ made changes to the subsequent TR models to greatly improve the cleaning shortcomings people experienced the first year it was introduced.
Here's a side by side review demo of the TR versus TC models done in 2021:
ua-cam.com/video/9mxottr_ZAQ/v-deo.html
@@EmiliWhitney Do you still love your TC5? We are on a 2nd floor condo. I hope it will not be too loud. Do you ever get the suds issue coming back out the drain pipe? Is it hard on delicate work out clothes?
Thanks~
Since I can hardly hear him describing both machines...What's the build 'quality' like on the TR5 (I know the washing ability isn't as good as the TC5)?
Yep I agree. Could hardly understand one word. Sounded like he was inside the washer. LOL
Had to turn on the closed captioning to read what he was saying.
Both are powder painted, which is not as durable as previous porcelain-painted machines.
can you give an updated review on the TC5 on the quality? I am fixing to purchase a pair of speed queen and was leaning heavily to the TC5 and DC5 combo.
I've had the TC5000 washer for more than a year-and-a-half, it washes very well, it uses less water than my old so-called 'High Efficiency' machines did, and I haven't managed to break it yet.
I know of a coin laundry still using most of the same SQ top-loaders they installed more than thirty years ago, and the four they have replaced are now IPSOs, the TC5000 with a different badge and a coin box instead of the home market control panel.
Did you get a TC500 do you like it? I am trying to decide between that a TR7. Thanks! Ph, and we are on a 2nd floor condo- have some delicate clothes- prefer not too loud. Did you ever get the suds issue coming out of the drain pipe?
@@MOAB-UT which did you go with?
@@royjohnson9043 TC5. No regrets at all. Never once out of balance and we use every single day for years now.
So, what was the reason for offering the one year version of the 2018, then going back to the old style with the transmission?
customer complaints.
The TR is junk and nobody was going to buy them once people figured it out. Speed Queen refused to own up to their failure and instead stripped dealer licences away from anyone who was honest about them to their customers. They also removed comments from their page of negative reviews about them as well. Basically, Speed Queen had a great product, due to more government control, they came up with something new, it failed, and it showed their true colors of being complete dicks. So they reintroduced a classic model with changes to meet the government restrictions and hush about everything else still.
Jack Off We citizens need to start confronting our government leaders.
@@jackoff1826 My understanding was that one year Speed Queen aberration was for residential use and not used in the commercial realm.
@@SACBENT05 YES
its a shame you can barely hear this
Scored a slightly used set pre he design that went into effect in 2018, all years after just dont cut it in the quality as they used to be.
My understanding is SQ made changes to the subsequent TR models to greatly improve the cleaning shortcomings people experienced the first year it was introduced.
Here's a side by side review demo of the TR versus TC models done in 2021:
ua-cam.com/video/9mxottr_ZAQ/v-deo.html
Fair Warning: Anyone here comparing the Maytag MVWP "Commercial" to this, you can stop now and just buy the TC5. The Maytag does in fact have a plastic gear trans, plastic splutch and plastic bottom wash tub. Nothing commercial about the new MVWP Maytag (maybe motor? iffy?), its just a pig in lipstick I promise. Look up the parts diagram folks, it never lies.
This TC has all steel trans, tub and no splutch horse crap to fail every few yrs?
The agitator on the TR models turn with the tub and does nothing but swish clothes around. The TC actually agitates like or old washers should do so these washers are very different like was stated here.
The TC will run hot water right out the tap, the TR mixes hot/cold making it wash in warm only, it cannot run a hot load of clothes. IDK why they did that, more EPA bs maybe who knows?
TC also has a 5yr warranty now too btw...
I only wish they kept old school timers on the TC5, much cheaper for owners to replace than new electronics. Great washer, closest you'll ever get today to grandma's washer. By the way who has hers today? Peace
The TC5 and earlier versions of the Classic have a plastic bully drive. The TR7 and TR5 and TR3 have steel pull and steel drive shaft and a thick serpentine belt driving the tub coming from a infinitely variable speed and direction motor with double the horse power and programmed control to automatically recover from imbalance conditions as opposed to the TC5 with only two speeds and needs a 'transmission' from the 80s to perform the back and forth motion needed for an agitator.
Both are great machines but one needs all the facts and some accuracy to make judgments on which is suited for specific buyers. I hope this helps a little in going that direction.
Pulley drive, rather than "bully drive". Thanks.
@@arthurtennessen9680
The extra hp truly was a must for TR models because clothes must spin faster to even wash without the agitator. Twice the hp "yes" but at 820 vs 710 rpm its certainly not twice the power from it. "Maybe" if it was double the power the TR models would actually clean and SQ never would of had to bring back their tried and true design again to survive like they done. The TR reviews/complaints just tell it all. Why waiting time is several months for TC5 vs TR models are always in stock.
No secret how TR models take about 15 minutes longer per load and still fail to ever clean enough to make owners happy. Why so many write they want their 10yr old $400 washer back. Only thing it wins is being more quiet. Well' until owner removes clothes and see they're still dirty then quiet awards tossed out nearest window..lol
The kevlar bell pulley on the shaft tip is to slow belt wear. Rubber belt on a steel pulley the steel don't flex but this being Kevlar allows light flex to combat belt stretch during their back/forth motion. The TR never needed this flex so steel pulley is used since it only spins in one direction. Kevlar bell proved to work out well for decades btw.
The transmission gears & shaft are hardened steel and have a 15yr warranty unlike the polypropylene (soft milk jug plastic) all Maytag Commercial/Whirlpool washers trans clutch/gears are made of.
A TC5 trans is shown in 1st link, all steel & heavy duty.
www.genuinereplacementparts.com/mobile_product_info.php?products_id=2959903
Speed Queen- Full Warranty Details, all models.
docs.alliancelaundry.com/tech_pdf/Production/204435en.pdf
@@harryballz6358 Thanks for the prompt reply.
I note that no where is the main pulley of a TC5 referred to as "Kevlar" instead of plastic except in your opinion. In any case, Kevlar is still not steel.
I note that spin speed does not equal wash quality so your point falls flat on why the TR series "needs" twice the horsepower as a TC5...since the TR series motor came from Speed Queen's well regarded front load washer and since Speed Queen's own staff Engineer refers the TR series as "kinda a front loader", then I would suggest with good cause that the TR series motor is powerful because it must power a front load machine in the form of a top load. This seems reasonable since the TR motor, like that in the front loader, must change speeds infinintly and change direction to effect agitation without the primitive "transmission" and so mustinclude that torque needed for these activities just like their front loader does.
So, in summary on this point, the ability to perform at higher speeds and infinite speeds rather than just two like the TC5 and execute custom wash motions for a "perfect wash" as well as automatic imbalance recovery makes it the superior choice IF those attributes are important to the owner. It was for me.
I note the TR7 has a 7 year warranty as apposed to the TC5 with, you guessed it, a great 5 year warranty.
I note the TR7 cleans beautifully and is easier on clothes, than the TC5, in my experience and those of most others who review the TR series.
I note that nationwide appliance retailer "Appliances Connection" lists the TC5 "in stock" but the TR7 a "best seller" and NOT stock. This even though I could credibly suggest there were more TR7 machines built than TC5 machines this past year.
So, while the TC5 is a great machine and should be considered by many as perfect for them, it is not a better choice because of the reasons you suggest since the TR7 cleans beautifully, is quiet, automatically handles imbalances loads and is efficient, it also can be credibly said that only the TR7 is built of all steel drive train.
@@arthurtennessen9680
Humm? Cause it just took SQ 2.5 months to get a TC5 to me and the 6 other TC5's our dealer received along with ours were all tagged "Sold" and also dated months before too. Had a stack of TC5 orders on his desk he went through to find mine, waiting on them now.
Had all the TR models still sitting on the salesfloor with more in back the entire time our TC5 was back ordered cause they tried several times to sell us the TR instead of us waiting. Our first sales lady even tried sneaking a TR5 on us by writing TR5 on their reciept but TC5 on our copy, she called 4 days after our ordering washer saying they have our TC5 washer "ready for pickup".
Now TR5 was on salesfloor & more new in box in the back the day we ordered cause she showed us the first day. Luckily I dropped by to check the condition of our new TC5 a day before our scheduled delivery and busted her. They almost fired her over it but she was family..lol. Imagine that? She sure caught hell though, maybe pretended to idk. The store manager took sale over apologizing redoing everything right and even sold us the TC5 for the price of the TR5 on sale ($100 less) and two months later our TC5 came in.
All TR models have been "on sale" at both our SQ dealers 3 times I know of since we began buying new appliances and the TC5 has never went on sale once so far nor has one made it onto their salesfloor since being backordered. So their all sold before they hit their loading dock. I even called SQ dealers 100 miles away with no luck before ordering. All said same thing. Not seen any!
Just wondering, how long did you have to wait to get a TR? Id say 10 minutes from time you paid till you drove around back loaded it up...lol.
I see bad TR reviews everywhere online going back to when the first TR was sold so I know its not a best seller for their quality. Good you believe that it is..lol. Many also believe GM won top awards every yr for the last 20yrs even after prez was caught buying all their awards from companies..lol. Just google it...
I suggest you read actual customer reviews on TR series because they're just terrible, most owners hate them from day one but some just cant admit it due to money loss.
SQ TR series stay in stock while months long wait times to get TC5 is surely the only reason TR models are selling. A bad SQ is better than no SQ view some take cause many people can't or won't wait 2-3 months the much better TC5.
TR series bad reviews have continued to climb even after SQ quietly updated them by extending their wash cycles "trying" to get them to clean clothes. Shame its only longer to come out dirty still. My greasy coveralls I use working on my cars/tractors have never looked cleaner. Wife delicates come out just fine too just as this machines done 4 decades. Well imagine that!
Oh now I'd be more surprised if it wasnt the same front load motor. Shame it hasn't helped TR cleaning performance out any because SQ had to update the unit by extending their wash cycles several more minutes and no telling what else they tweeked "after" its failed to wash and after installing the stronger motor it has too. Its a known fact they're still working on the entire TR line since making them 5 yrs ago trying everything to get them to clean even halfway decent while SQ has not needed to change the TC5 any. Humm?
The front load motor used in TR is just another homeowner unit btw, its not a true commercial line washer motor like laundromats use cause its just a 110 not a 220 or higher like true commercial motors, just so you know...lol. My son has been a true commercial washer/dryer mechanic for Cintas and filled me in on how Commercials are built. Commercial design vs being true Commercial are two totally different things. Marketing you know, its simply a 110 homeowner motor so get that out of your head now..lol. Commercial washer motor alone weigh 2- 3 times what these entire machines weigh.
Seems your focused on TR having a bigger motor believing advertising instead of the TC being the washer that actually made Speed Queen company a household name for decades, well if the TR dont destroy it cause it just might.
Truth is if SQ had made the TR units first decades ago we'd never even heard of SQ. Well maybe thats not true? We know them for building the Chevy Vega of all washing machines and would have just went under soon afterward...lmao.
Cnet says TR5 is "The Worst washer they tried in 5 yrs" and they "Dont recommend it to anybody". Their 7 model even, what a damn dud bud! I strongly suggest you return yours asap.
www.cnet.com/reviews/speed-queen-tr7-washing-machine-review/
Volume too low, hard to understand. The ads are louder.
Where can you buy these TC5 models? They’re not even shown on Speed Queen’s website
Availability is currently limited but eventually we assume all Speed Queen Platinum Dealers will have access to them. We have them available if you're interested; we are located in Collinsville, IL near St. Louis, MO
I bought mine at SMITH APPLIANCE, 685 Powder Springs Street, Marietta, GA 30064.
I am sure you will be able to find one at a dealer closer to you.
I think it is safe to assume that the reliability of this model will be comparable to that of the previous transmission models.
I've had mine for a little over two weeks, have washed only mixed loads of work clothes and two loads of bedding. It works great. Wash temp on the warm setting is 93 degrees F by a calibrated and regularly verified probe-type thermometer.
Who's the nuckelhead that make a video like this ? Is this video from 1996?
My partner & I both agree, that Speed Queen is our choice for our first washer & dryer purchase. We are lifelong renters and have used a myriad of machines, over the years, and we want a good quality washing machine. He prefers the TR5; but, my 1st choice would be the TC5. I lean towards the tried and true. He likes the mechanical design of the TR5; b/c, it is belt driven versus transmission. Our local appliance dealer leans towards the TR5 b/c of the 5 yr warranty, it's gentler on clothes, and he feels complaints regarding the cleaning ability of the TR5 stem more from the way the consumer uses the machine (i.e. too much water per load size) than cleaning capability of machine itself. I am hoping we are not disappointed in the TR5!
Just curious if u all stuck with buying the TR5 & how is it or whatever machine working out for you?
Speed Queen's newest version of the TC5 just came out. It is the same as the 2019 and 2020 TC5 with one difference. ( Actually 2 ) The model number is TC5003 and it now has a full five year complete warranty. Probably did that to compete with the Maytag commercial washer.
@@Mike-up6go isn't Maytag's 10 years? I'm debating between the 2, I feel like my brain is saying get Maytag it's cheaper. My heart is saying don't do it, you're going to regret it lol. Even though SQ doesn't have the longer warranty I feel like it's going to last longer. I don't know lol, I'm stuck..
@@Mandy_39 Maytags warranty for their commercial washer is a full 5 years parts and labor on everything. 5 more years parts only on everything else for a total of 10 years.
Speed Queen came out with the TC5003 this year to compete with the Maytag commercial washer with the same 5 year parts and labor in home warranty. The TC5003 and TC5000 are same washer , just different number to reflect more warranty and supposedly a couple of improvements they made.
My local appliance dealer has been selling Maytag and Speed Queen for decades . I asked him which of the two he would buy given the choice and he indicated that Speed Queen by far has better reliability in the long run over the Maytag commercial.
I am going to purchase the Speed Queen TC 5003 and matching dryer.
I almost bought the Maytag with the 5 year warranty until the TC5003 came out with same warranty ( They used to be 3 years parts and labor on the TC 5000 series.)
I dont know what you are paying but the difference for me with the Speed Queen vs. Maytag is about 100 dollars more for the Speed Queen.
Local dealer wants 795 for Maytag vs 850 for the Speed Queen for each unit.
Hope I didnt confuse you. LOL
Did you get a TC500 do you like it? I am trying to decide between that a TR7. Thanks! We are on a 2nd floor condo- have some delicate clothes- prefer not too loud. Did you ever get the suds issue coming out of the drain pipe?
Can you explain what the "heavy duty" option is? If you select it, do you NOT get the extra rinse?
I meant "heavy soil"
From the manual - "This Option extends the wash time for heavily soiled items in all cycles. In the Normal Eco cycle, the wash will alternate between periods of agitation and then a short soak until advancing to the next part of the cycle" and further down in the manual, it lists it as a 24 minute-long option.
Terry's Appliance Center Thank you Sir!
You got a manual? There wasn't one in the box with my machine, just a registration/order card for the manual. I tried to look for it online on the SQ website, but the product code did not come up on the drop-down menu and the model number got a response along the lines of (don't remember the exact wording, but this is close) ""REQUESTED DOCUMENT NOT FOUND". I called the service line and presses numeral "0" from the directory tree, and was directed to a most pleasant young lady who was happy to send one by email, with a hard copy to follow. I registered the machine online, and explained why this particular model, and added that it works as well as I had hoped it would.
5610winston you can disable the beeps this machine makes by holding the deep fill button for 10 seconds
I want to figure out how to bypass the lid lock on mine. I’ve tried taking the switch out the lid and putting it in the latch but that didn’t work.
Did you figure out how to take the lid lock off?
@@planningreelalaska4121 it’s impossible
Throw that TR5 in the dumpster.
Highball 734 A tub brake is on any transmission driven machine!
That TR series will be discontinued eventually,or it will be speed queens undoing. I love their explanations of why it performs so poorly because you are not using it correctly. Who in F!!!! Needs a course to use a washing machine? That thing is a dumpster fire
@@Brownie-tg3nu LOL! Maybe not...but for sure my TR7 beats my old 2010 SQ hands down for cleaning, noise, ability to recover from an imbalance load and looks twice as good. It's the coolest and best Speed Queen top load ever, and I've had both types.
@@arthurtennessen9680 I hope they make the regular speed queen with the same options as the TR7. That would sell like crazy.
My tr7 is great.
You have almost no sound
Which one is quieter?
Can the TR5 be paused at any time to add additional clothes? I’m used to machines that you can pause, and you have to wait for the motion to stop, but there’s still some type of way to add clothes.
k2astaar06 yes it can I have the TR7 and you can pause it at anytime the lid unlocks put in the item you forgot and the best part is with the auto fill it will add more water automatically.
Yes you can pause both of these machines nothing is different in that regard!
Ugh! vertical video! turn the phone next time for better view.
The TR models are CRAP that DO NOT get dirty laundry clean! The TC5 is the ONLY washer worth purchasing!
I think you are right.
Hellova strong wash
How much energy savings is associated with the newer design?
Seriously, who cares?
I've been married 25 years and am on my 5th washing machine. I just purchased a Speed Queen which should arrive in 2-4 weeks. I know it isn't HE, but when I think about the amount of waste created by these disposable washing machines, not to mention the amount of time and money I've wasted it disgusts me.
@@Julie-rx7nr It's all intentional. Then the hypocrites who have you throw away 160lbs of machine ever 2 years will talk about their green initiatives. Sad.
How do you like your new SQ? Which model did you get? I am going with a new TC5. I hope it works out well- isn't too loud, doesn't bubble over with suds like some experienced. I hope it spins clothes dry enough too.
Where can I buy the speed Queen machine
None of the usual places carry it like Home Depot, Costco Etc
Try smaller appliance dealers in your area. I did a google search for Speed Queen in my area and found 3 dealers.
Visit the website- if you haven't already. You can locate a dealer. Mostly just moms and pops. That is a good thing! Ask ARE YOU A SERVICER? You want this so getting a repair will be easier. Some places sell but do not service.
I'll take 1HP motor older model
Who knew the 2018 would turn out to be such a disappointment?
My understanding is SQ made changes to the subsequent TR models to greatly improve the cleaning shortcomings people experienced the first year it was introduced. I'm trying to decide between the two.
Here's a side by side review demo of the TR versus TC models done in 2021:
ua-cam.com/video/9mxottr_ZAQ/v-deo.html
I bought the TC5 and found that it doesn't spin the water out good at all. The clothes are pretty wet when it's done. 🤔
if you use perma press it will be wetter but if you use the heavy duty or bulky sheets cycle it will very well rinsed. I love mine TC5
Do the video over...the sound is terrible
Just spoke with a Speed Queen dealer in north Phoenix. He said that when the 2018 units came out and had problems, Speed Queen jumped into fix-it mode and corrected the problems on ALL models. He says all models have virtually the same parts, but with different features. He said he considers the "Classic" designation to be a little bit of marketing and psychology to ease the fears of those concerned with the 2018 models. Ten year warranty now offered on all models.
>>> all models have virtually the same parts, but with different features. He said he considers the "Classic" designation to be a little bit of marketing and psychology to ease the fears of those concerned with the 2018 models.>>>
Unless I misunderstood you, this is utter nonsense.
They do not all have the same parts. Nor do they operate on the same principle mechanically either outside, or inside the tub.
The original, now Classic has an agitator that moves independently from the tub.... The TR series does not.
The original had mechanical controls...the classic and TR have electronic controls.
Did we both just watch the same video?
For the most-part the TR3, TR5 and TR7 have the same guts but the Classic model has very different guts. All four are great machines though!
I bought the Maytag Commercial.
@@AZRickD Where did you find it in Phoenix?
These folks had both the Speed Queen series and the Maytag Commercial. Both in short supply until October.
www.besthomeappliances.com/index.html
BUYER BEWARE……..The TC 5 only ramps up to 710 rpm which leaves clothes wet after final spin
Vertical video. Thumbs down.