why do you precise your nationality ?? italian is not latin, it's just normal that you can't understand if you didn't learn latin , i'm french and i don't understand latin
@@anriettecooper6935 what a stupid comment, I am italian and can understand spanish without having studied it for example. italian is the closest living language to latin, for an italian speaker latin is intelligible at some extents in written form btw
@@Unknown-bi7wf teutoburg was only one battle, whole central europe was conquered and kept under roman's control for several centuries... dont be as stupid and ignorant as those barbarians lol.
@@Unknown-bi7wf, bro, the Romans never wanted to conquer the Germanic lands, they considered the barbarians too uncivilized to be part of the Roman Empire ... when too many Roman citizenships were given to too many barbarians, there were internal revolts in the Roman Empire, in particular in its main province, the Italian one ... and it is no coincidence that the Western Roman Empire collapsed (the one with the most barbarians inside it) but not the Eastern one
@@johannesschmitz6370 Proto Germanic is so archaic and a lot of it is lost to time. It would be so hard, and would still be inaccurate even after all the effort
jim, you should join a latin speaking club or organization to further learn classical latin because your 3 years of learning sure didnt go to waste. all the best.
Aww! You are a great testimony to all those moms out there (like me) doing homeschool Latin (Memoria Press) My daughter will be going to school eventually in a year, but I’m still going to learn alongside her, at home. 🤍
Centurion: Rome wants tribute in cows OR grain. Translator: Rome wants tribute in cows AND grain. Centurion: You have 3 days. Translator: He wants 3 girls.
Now i am afraid of translator. Since anytime 2 languages cross each other, not only some people may not translated words correctly or the entire sentences but just the short & simpleflip version, it could unintentionally twist the meaning into somethings rather strange, confuseing or funny at best ... or offending, terrified & hostile at worst. We never know what will happened after that too. Oh, imagine if that was more than just 2 very diffirent Languages. We should also beware of keeping the sentences long enough & informed. The longer it is the harder for translating them, with high chances of misleading it too.
This scene is fantastically acted. The Roman Centurion not only exudes complete authority and dominance, but a frightening menace, and does so in the original language, not the language of poets and scholars, but of brutal unrestrained military power.
@Phrnch Mdl are you tripping on acid? "They had only orgies and buttrammings so they stopped having children" is one of the insanest shit i've ever read
@Phrnch Mdl You think that a few Germanic tribes can replace more than 6 million Romans in the Italian peninsula? The most populous place in Europe at the time? Stop spitting bullshit.
What facinates me is thw fluidity of the speech. When other movies/seriea try to speak latin it sounds broken, you can hear the pauses in the speech as the actor tries to remember the lines. This is... just perfecr. I can close my eyes and imagine a centurion giving out orders
@@overlord5068 Romans weren't pure Italics. By the time Rome took over the Italian peninsula there at least 4 different groups: Italic tribes, Celts (in the North), Etruscans (in present Tuscany) and Greeks (in the South). So by the time Romans started to conquer the rest of Europe, Romans were already mixed.
@Harald Harster you can assess that from the marvelous deeds of Roman diplomacy, which 9 times out of 10 consisted of the Romans diplomats barging into the talks, demanding whatever they needed on the grounds of, well, being Roman, going into a tantrum after being rejected and resorting to the force approach. Then again, they had every reason to be arrogant.
@@KillerLettuce in a lot of old tv show or movie, the Romans mostly speak latin but with a very thick British accent. One of the best example is probably "The life of Brian" movie
@@zee446 I was speaking more to what they said about speaking Latin makes them a whole other level of "badass." Just not sure how the language someone speaks is the qualifier for what makes one badass. I'm giving them a hard time because badass is an overused word and has lost all meaning.
Wanna know a fun fact about that time they did that? The first city they sacked believing it was Rome was in fact Luni, seeing all the marble and being the architecture so far from what they were used to see in their eyes all that luxury it must have been the capital
I picked the Latin sentences out for you guys and added the English translation. "Caesar sanctae urbis Romae Augustus novum legatum ad Germaniam misit senatorem Publium Quinctilium Varum." "Augustus, the Caesar of the holy city of Rome, has sent a new custodian to Germania: Senator P. Quinctilius Varus." "Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent." "Fuck, these brutes there just don't catch anything!" "Posthac Roma tributa vostra amplius non remissura est" ('vostra' is a dialect; common would be 'vestra') "As of now, Rome will no longer waive your tributes." "Varus exigit ab omni tribu pretium vicen(or)um boum vel quinquagenum ponderum frumenti centenarii." "Varus requires every tribe to pay the value of twenty cows or fifty hundredweights of grain." "Quid?......Dic iterum!" "What?.....Say that again!" "Spatium vobis est triduum." "You got a stretch of three days."
In Italian: "Augusto, Cesare della santa urbe di Roma, mise in Germania come nuovo legato il senatore Publio Quintilio Varo." "Fottuti, ste belve non capiscono proprio nulla." "Da adesso, Roma non rinunzierà più ai vostri tributi." "Varo esige da ogni tribù il prezzo di venti buoi o cinquanta quintali di frumento." "Che? Dillo di nuovo" "Il vostro tempo è di tre dì."
Would be The other way around, Germanic is more BadAss then Latin I am a Portuguese speaker, and understand most of Latin, and I think some Languages that came From Latin are Very silly, like Spanish, or Portugal Portuguese
@@niet2367 algo tipo "bobinho", "besta", "engraçado" Tipo vc já ouviu a dublagem do Dragon Ball de Portugal ou da Espanha? O Bang é engraçado demais kkkkkkkkkkkk Eu não consigo levar a sério Português de Portugal ou Espanhol kkkkkkkkkkkk
People complaining about how they use modern German instead of proto German don't understand the purpose of language in this scene. The use of latin here isn't for the sake of historical accuracy, it's just to make the Romans sound alien and unintelligible, as they do for the main characters. Whereas the barbarians, the shows heroes, are meant to sound relatable. Hence they speak the same tongue as the people watching the show
Latin has such an exotic and refined beauty to it. When he goes "post hac, roma tributa vostra...", it sounds so uniquely beautiful. Each syllable defined on its own yet they flow together so beautifully
The most beautiful language is Spanish as you sound and it is the most complete language in words for all things el español el idioma más hermoso y el más hablado de los idiomas de origen latin
I'm so tired of romans in media speaking english in British or American accents. This is actually a nice breath of fresh air. lmaooo why are people getting so unnecessarily triggered, I feel like I'm on Twitter
It felt like you were living in the territories of the Roman Republic/Empire 🦅. Real Latin. Heck had it been Spanish, French, Italian or portuguese, I can almost buy it. Since they’re the Romance languages themselves. But Latin. Thats authenticity.
In a movie made by English speakers, for an English speaking audience, it makes sense for the protagonists to speak in contemporary modern English. If those characters are, for example, ancient Romans, there is an implicit understanding that while the actors are literally speaking English, the characters they are portraying are not - that their speech is, in effect, being “translated” for our benefit. It’s even commonly called “the translation convention”. The makers of “Barbarians”, who are German, have done exactly the same thing with the speech of their protagonists - the Germanians - who are played by actors speaking contemporary, modern High German. The Romans speak Latin because (a) their scenes are far fewer in number, (b) they are not the protagonists, and (c) the fact that the two populations cannot understand each other’s language is narratively important. You simply couldn’t tell that story if the actors playing Romans were speaking the same language as those playing Germanians. Once you accept that the characters’ dialogue is being translated into your language, for your benefit, quibbles about the “accuracy” of whatever accent the actor delivers those lines in becomes completely nonsensical. It’s already the “wrong” language, so what the hell does the accent matter? In effect, it’s not the character’s voice you’re hearing, it’s the actor acting as a translator so that you can understand what’s going on.
@@fromchomleystreet ok good point. But even then they always seem to be affecting british accents. And furthermore the brits do seem to do it better, in fairness.
This scene alone is epic. And the classic latin pronunciation is amazing. It sounds so majestic. The actor did a really good job with the speech. Outstanding.
@@Billswiftgti true indeed. I was also committed after seing this majestic scene. However the show-although really good- was somehow not as advertised with said scene. I guess my expectations were just too high
@@maelb2868 well, it is a movie literally someone behind the scenes told the actor to say the phrase like this and he probably practiced it, the troops of the Roman legions did not speak (obviously) like that, but rather the art of oratory was alien to They and reserved for the people of the Senate, I mean e people of letters, what the troops of the legions really spoke was a vulgar Latin that spread throughout the rest of Europe that Rome conquered, from this are born for example the Romance languages ( Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, French, etc).
@@anyeoca9157 when he spoke to the other romans he did use vulgar latin. the reason the reast of his speach is so proper is because it was a directive from Rome or on Rome's authority and so was probably written by a bureaucrat
There are some small issues with the pronunciation and the word “fuck” isnt what the Romans would have said (they would have said something like “By Jupiter”) it’s overall very good.
Let me tell you about Classical Latin: the latin alphabet has only 5 vowels. so if they had a sound like _ë_ or _ö_ , linguists can't tell. another example: the city of Brixium is today spelled Brescia in italian, which in english orthography would be Breshia. The nail on the coffin is that Latin culture emulated Greek culture, like the Francophonie of 1800 - everybody just loved French, dei was saying "nation, revolution, reunion, direction, administration, Napolion" and "directeur, liberateur, provocateur, terminateur, influenceur". But the people don't say "nation", dei say "nay-schuhn", dei don't say "revolution", dei say "revuh-liu-schuhn". Imagine some doofus 2000 years from now, trying to speak English judging by the orthography only: I am God. English orthography is retarded.
@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 well how do you pronounce the letter 'I' from an English text, if you donno how the English pronounce the letter 'I'? Nobody knows how Classical Latin sounded like. Classic Latin writing was clearly influenced by Ancient Greek writing. But neither do we know how the Ancient Greek orthography was pronounced. don't worry about "I am God" it's just a sentence.
I also love little details like the Romans asking for “20 cows OR 50 hundredweights of grain”, but the Villager interprets that they want “Livestock and Grain” which increases the tension of the scene
When you dont hear or properly understand the or it becomes a comma We want 20 cows, 50 units of grain Wich is to say. I get that the translator simplified the demands either out of laziness or because he didnt understand the whole sentence
@@gewuerzwanze5627 I don't think accurare translation would help much. 20 cows or, if I'm reading right, 5000 grain is abusrd in the span of three days seems absurd. These people would've had to not be paying for years for them to be able to meet their demands.
@MeChupaUnHuevon I dont't remember that scene, but as it is in this scene, he says exactly what the romans said. The romans said, they want the value of 20 cows, or 50 hundredweights grain. The key word is "value". They don't care if they get 20 cows, 50 hundredweights of grain, or 10 cows and 25 hundredweights of grain, just give them the same value as they asked for. Segestes says, they want livestock and grains, he doesn't mean that they need to pay both 20 cows AND 50 hundredweights of grain, just that they want a certain amount of these.
I actually felt the role of translator has always been incredibly undervalued in historic shows. Indeed, the ability to speak multiple languages was incredibly valuable and translators actually had extremely comfortable lives because of that job. Much like writing and reading Latin, it was a pretty rare thing, since most people lived within a few miles of their own places for most of their lives, barring the occasional journey to nearby cities or holy places.
Also a fun added detail: the translator is translating wrong, and the words he’s messing up are such basic ones it creates the impression he is doing it on purpose. Which given what happened next historically, is probably exactly what they’re conveying.
Actually watched the show, he speaks the language because he's a collaborator with the Roman's. The entire village hates him, him speaking latin so well plays into that idea
I loved the efforts on languages in the show, especially casting german and italian speakers, the italian actors having the closest natural accent to speak latin credibly
Actually there is plenty of evidence that claccial latin sounded nothing like Italian. We know from commonly misspelled words in graffiti (which were written phonetically). For example, classical Latin Caesar was pronounced Kai-sar, not See-zar or Seh-sarre. Still the dedication to actually speak Latin is more than I could ask for, it sounds amazing and brings this scene from a 6/10 to a 9/10.
Has anyone here commented on the fact that the riders didn't have stirrups? I've always found it fascinating that the stirrup didn't reach Europe until the 8th century. It had to have been very difficult for actors used to them to adapt to this scene. That's actually a detail most period pieces miss.
Wow didnt know about that peice of trivia. Personally, I learned to ride bareback so stirrups sometimes just feel in the way. Plus I saw a nasty accident where a horse rolled over on someone when their foot was stuck in a stirrup. So I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of skepticism regarding stirrups when they first got introduced. Ultimately though, makes long rides far more comfortable and was an excellent invention.
The stirrup was a technology invented by the Mongols...that is what made the tribes of the Asian Steppes so imposing and feared by all Europeans they encountered.
I wonder why an open stirrup (more like a bicycle pedal) was never developed. Could support weight without trapping the rider's foot. I guess the trick would be it would be much more involved to manufacture, since a stirrup is just a loop of leather, but this would need some serious iron reinforcement.
@@jessegutierrez6923 Lmao your phrase makes no sense whatsoever. The mongols never invaded european countries (and europe was never, and still isn't, a country). The mongols at most invades and pillaged central/west asian countries. Like modern day Kazakhstan, iran, iraq. They never even stepped foot in what you'd consider "european countries" today.
@@Mantorok12 because you also need to pull up on the stirrup as well as pull down. It also moves around a lot and doesn't doesn't in a fixed place like a bicycle pedal
It probably has a lot to do with what's behind them. Could you kill a squad of veteran legionnaires? Probably not, but let's imagine you did. What happens next is that a whole legion delete's your little village. They're not just scary because they're tough warriors, they're scary because they represent a power you cannot hope to beat.
The germanians are the protagonists in this series. If everyone would've spoken the old way, the whole thing would've had to be subbed which would be a terrible experience and too much work for nothing.
This is totally inaccurate. Everyone and their mama knows Ancient Romans, the founders of the Latin based languages, spoke with perfect British accents sounding like theyre from the north.
I don't understand why are you all complaining about Romans speaking English. If the actors are English, I really don't want them to speak another language, because in 99% of the time, they absolutely butcher the pronunciation if they haven't actually studied that language.
@@AverageAlien Latin has still been spoken for all this time by some people, it is still thought in school in Romance speaking countries. And yeah, probably the pronunciation we have today is not 100% correct, but we know that it was a phonetic language, and since all the modern Romance languages are pronounced similarly, except for different influences, we can assume how Latin would have sounded like, and we are not that far off from the real thing. Also, there actually are many other ways that helped linguists throughout the time to figure out what Latin sounded like, like some actual manuals, or ways that Romans described how their language is superior to others, and more. You have to do the research on your own. The point is that the pronunciation of English is so different from other languages, that a native speaker has a very difficult time, pronouncing a different language
@@AndrewReed420 Yet the commenters like to forget that the Aldmeri Dominion withdrew from Hammerfell entirely even when the Empire abandoned it's province
@@Manchevo Yet the commenters like to forget that the General Decanus of the Empire,while ordered to abandon the province, left the Redguards with his veteran troops, who went on to train the army of hammerfell amd coordinated the war effort... What the commenters like to forget is that the Empire drained Dominions of resources,they would need to pacify Hammerfell at the Red Ring...
@deliverence nah man obese doesn't necessarily mean eating too much. It can also mean you're eating bad, in this case they consume too much wheat. Look for pictures of Venezuela people, a lot of them are obese and not exactly for eating like kings
@deliverence I love when one of you gets let out into the wild and stumbles around like someone’s drunk uncle spewing incoherent bullshit about subjects they know nothing about. You think you’re landing zingers when you actually just look insane and stupid. It’s hilarious.
It’s awesome that the Roman kits are extremely authentic. The Centurion has Lorica Squamata + Phalerae, along with the Gallic type helmet which would be accurate for the 1st Century AD. And to be accompanied by the aquilifer… mint.
-- *Vārus exigit ab omnī tribū **_pretium_** vīcēnum bovum **_vel_** quinquāgēnum ponderum frūmentī centennāriī.* "Varus demands from every tribe _the price_ of twenty oxen _or_ of fifty pounds of grain." The Roman didn't want livestock and grain. They wanted money, and gave oxen *or* grain as a reference to the Barbarians which didn't use money.
It would have been better is they actually spoke Proto-Germanic. But this might be much more difficult to reconstruct because of the lesser amount of available written text. But nevertheless, the fact that they speak German is better than if they spoke English.
These people would not have spoken proto-Germanic. By the time that this takes place in 1st century the once common proto-Germanic had already started branching and developing into various different Germanic language groups as Germanic people had spread over a wide area. Cherusci - the people in the video - were part of the greater Suebi tribal entity and what they spoke was the primary root of the coming High Germanic languages, which contains what is Standard German of today. Obviously they would not have spoken modern Standard German, but what they spoke has not been sufficiently reconstructed for it to be fully spoken in a production like this and in this regard having German actors speaking modern Standard German is easy to explain.
Yet Americans have no cultural superiority, but economic, political and military. The Romans were indeed sophisticated compared to the Germanic tribes, yet if you think the Anglos are too sophisticated for you; i have bad news, LOL.
Barbarians director: *takes the effort to have actors speak correct classical Latin for historically correct setting* Also Barbarians director: *just regular modern German for the Germanic tribes* guys I FUCKING GET IT. THE SHOW IS FOR GERMANS AND THERES NO ANCIENT GERMAN. I just like the contrast, chill
@@chancellorpalpatineakathes6130 well, debatable. they could have used middle high german, spoken in medieval times or even better old english as it is the language the continental germans spoke 1600 years ago as well, as it comes from there.
As someone who speaks Spanish, and can perfectly understand Italian and French, this was the weirdest experience ever. It's like that video of what English sounds like to non-English speakers.
What? So because apparently you can understand 4 languages it's just shocking that there's a language out there in the world you don't know? I don't know if this is egotistical, delusional, or plain stupid...
@@MrShitthead it's not shocking it all. The sensation is just strange because Spanish, French, and Italian, are derivatives of Latin. So the way Latin sounds to my ear when pronounced perfectly like in this clip makes it sound like I should understand it, even though I don't. Does that make sense? If not I can help explain it even more just let me know how you go :)
+M Anderson how do you not know that those languages he listed are descended from Latin? Some of the words are practically the same and you can kind of cross-communicate with some.
@@AaronTruffer Nope, it's the sound of soldiery capable of committing al kinds of inhuman barbarities themselves. If you want to hear the sound of civilization, you should listen to one of the readings of Cicero or Seneca that are available online for free. They were civilized, humane people. Let's not be naive though: what we see in this video is not the civilized face of ancient Rome, but that of the brutal conqueror. The legions did not come in peace and had no scruples about stealing, raping, or murdering those whom they conquered. Vae victis!
With one two minute clip you suckered me into binge watching this entire series I had never heard of before. Nicely done. Netflix should pay you for this.
Same here! I've got to look it up now, though I doubt I'll watch it all because the battle gore will probably force me to quit watching it. I can't handle all that.
BBC report: English language: -It uses and depends on the Roman alphabet. -60% of its vocabulary comes from Latin, compared to only 26% of Germanic vocabulary. -Its grammar is not completely Germanic, it has parts of grammatical structure from Latin. For this reason, philologists consider the English language a hybrid language. The information in this video is correct. By the way, I'm English, greetings from London.
as a dutch/english native whos currently studying french and german, i can confirm french(latin) has a much more relateable vocabulary but the german grammatical structure is much more relateable in latin, interesting how that turns out
Hi ^^ I'm a Spaniard, sometimes I understand what they are speaking about in Latin if I have context. In a movie a soldier said "tumultus ad murum" (there's an uproar going on close to the wall), I understood that xD
- Caesar sānctae Urbis Rōmae Augustus novum lēgātum ad Germāniam mīsit, sĕnātōrem Publium Quīnctīlium Vārum - Futuite, bēluae istae pōrro nīl tenent - Posthāc, Romā tribūta vostra nōn amplius remissūra est - Vārus exigit ab omnī tribū pretium vīcēnum boum, vel quīnquāgēnum ponderum frūmentī centēnariī - Quid? Dīc iterum! - Spatium vobis est trīdŭum!
Centurion: Ulfric Stormcloak, some here in Helgen call you a hero. But a hero doesn't use the voice to murder his king and usurp his throne. Segimer: What? Aquifer: Forgive him, he's been playing this new game nonstop.
The authenticity of the first season was ok (horrible military camp layout, end of 1st C. roman gear while playing in the early 1st C., absolutely dogshit equipment of the germanic people, romans not using slings but bows instead, romans beeing constantly shown as the bad guys...) . The 2nd season was so bad, that it made the historical advisors quit. I spoke to one of the advisors, as I am doing living history myself and the stories he told me about the producer really made me angry. Basically it all boiled down to the sentiment, that the authentic stuff restricted the director`s creativity. How about not making a fucking historic drama but instead a fantasy show if you don´t plan on following the history???
@Jean Sanchez wrong. they spoke an ancient form of norse. the language still spoken today, that is closest to ancient germannic is icelandic. additionally linguists have reconstructed the language spoken by ancient germannic tribes as well.
@@lewycraft can you explain? I'm genuinely curious. I remember in my Ancient Roman history class in college my professor told us that modern pronunciation of Latin is wrong and v's sound like w's etc etc. It blew my mind lol ever since I've been very interested in what the Latin of antiquity sounded like.
@@manifestdestiny1191 Pronouncing Latin is surprisingly easy to learn. You can teach yourself online to hear it, though you won't have the accent. None of us will.
@@michaelerickson985 I'm 99.99% that was supposed to be a joke, because in American or British productions the Romans usually speak English, and so does everyone else, so there's no language barrier even though there often should be. The same goes for aliens in science fiction movies.
As somebody who took Roman Latin, this was pretty darn accurate. Some of the ordering of sentences was odd, but it is still a personal choice of the speaker.
As a Latin student, i noticed the syllable-quantities more,which were way of. Latin sounds quite melodic which is quality this performance was lacking in. I concede tho,that it would have taken away from the intimidating presence of the soldier, at least for modern western audiences.
Meanwhile in an alternate universe, UA-cam video: “Spoken English from Sex and the City”. All comments are in native Latin, some of them stressing that the actor of the main character is actually from London.
The centurion says: "Caesar sanctae urbis Romae Augustus, novum legatum ad Germaniam misit, Senatorem Publium Quinctilium Varum" "Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent" "Posthac, Roma tributa vostra non amplius remissura'st" "Varus exigit ab omni tribu pretium vicenum boum, vel, quinquagenum ponderum frumenti centenarii" "Quid? Dic iterum!" "Spatium vobis est triduum"
Thanks for the transcript. I had Latin for 7 years but the pronounciation made it really hard to understand more than a few words. Where did you get it from?
@@Armor3d0ne Actually I realized since then that I probably made some mistakes (I used my hearing + latin vocabularies + my very basic Latin knowledge). If you want a proper explanation (and transcript), check out Polymathy's video about Barbarians: ua-cam.com/video/K7uBUCZgpw8/v-deo.html
@Md Tamzidul Haque Riaz Sure, it is: "Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent" - I added this to my original comment as well and also fixed a few mistakes in it.
Roman dude: "we want livestock *OR* grain" Translator dude: "they want livestock *AND* grain" How this altercation could've been resolved: "Livestock or grain? Well that sounds fair. Understandable. Have a nice one, see you in three days!"
Nice thought, but they technically said they wanted the equivalent of a certain amount of cattle or grain, theoretically they could take both or even other things as substitutes for grain (so long as the total value was equal to 50 hundredweights of grain). Not that it matters anyway, since they couldn't have afforded it either way, that was the point I believe. Nice joke though.
I enjoy that little detail too. Feels like it gives some context for how ancient conflicts could have occurred too with limited translation capabilities
I like how everyone's complaining about the use of modern German. You do realize this is a German show made in Germany with overwhelming German actors for a German audience?? You weren't complaining when Americans made hundreds of movies like that in english. German is still closer to Proto Germanic than English with its 60% or so Latin/ Greek vocabulary.
The classical Latin pronunciation is definitely correct! However, as an Italian, I cannot laugh about how strong is the present-day Rome accent of the actor. I guess that makes it even more "authentic" for non-Italians somehow! :D
Very true. Despite some indirect sources we just can't know how ancient latin was pronounced during some specific era. We can only make educated guess that will never be more than that.
Actually, I've seen lots of stirrups :/ the saddles and bits are also not historically correct, however way better and more decent than I've seen in other films.
@@CelticCari welp in most studios they enforce the use of saddles and stirrups for the crews safty, the whole show can be canceled or fined otherwise so as much as it is not historically correct it is for the safty of the actors
@@maorgolan8594 true and I totally agree. It's not that difficult to ride a horse without stirrups as many people might think, but it's way more likely to fall when you or the horse make the slightest mistake. However seeing historically accurate saddles and no stirrups would have put the cherry on the cake
They actually did use stirrups, however this is excusable for the purpose of safety and ease. Though it would have been nice were the stirrups removed once they had mounted; safety first!
@L S ah ah anche io, solo che, a parte che l'ho studiato una era geologica fa, l'ho studiato con i dittonghi, qui, questi romanacci parlano dicendo "Sanctae" e "Caesar" proprio come si scrive, credo che usino la "Restituta", ci ho messo un po' a capire comunque.....
Complimenti... solo ora, a 35 anni, capisco l'importanza di greco e latino (che senza dubbio imparerò)... l'obbligatorietà dell'inglese è un modo per renderci barbari
@@christiancristof491 si mi sembra appunto che si chiami Restituita. Comunque, da quello che avevo letto da piu fonti, adesso non ricordo quali, in pratica il latino che si studia al liceo, sarebbe quello tramandato attraverso il Medio Evo, diverso in realtà da quello usato dagli antichi romani. Più o meno è cosi? Che poi non so io mi immagino che il latino sarà stato parlato dai ceti più abbienti ma i poveracci magari parlavano più qualche specie di dialetto, anche perché non andavano a scuola. Credo almeno....
@jean krus "That time period", what do you mean "that time period"? It wasn't uncommon for someone of higher status or porgressed age to be rather obese. He isn't a fighter, but a leading figure, like an elder. Which means hes got plenty to eat, but no serious exercise, nor is he growing, to chancel out his nutrition and energy intake. They aren't poor, you know? They just don't have any luxury products ( obviously ) but they still produce more food each year, then they can consume. The reason why some of them are thin/fit is because they are fighters and train, hunt, work everyday.
@@Drikkerbadevand Everybody in that time would have a dad bod and more so a bigger belly around harvest season. As they still would need a good bodyfat content to go through winter. As what people fail to realize going through winter isnt just the winter itself, but until next growing season. e.g for around 4-6 months nothing really of value growths around you, so you need both a body grown reserver and actuall pereserved food stuff. Also these men, even the fighters and hunters do lots of manual labor and need/want a good meal every day just for the sake of moral.
love how the eaglebearer is just low key wearing a FUCKING TIGER PELT. i mean the audacity of that. not just wearing a skin thousands of miles from where it was hunted... not just wearing the pelt of a beast that could easily kill a man... but both of those things, together. roman power at its prime was something else.
In those days there were still Caspian tigers in Anatolia Province, modern Turkey, and northern Iran. Still a couple of thousand miles from Rome, but not as far as they'd have to go today.
@@dalegreer3095 Yeah, and majority of modern turkey was part of Rome, so it was technically "domestic" beast. It actually went extinct only few hundred years ago. Lions was in Greece and Iberia on the first century AD but they were all killed in the games. Propably Italian peninsula had lions too in Roman era but there is no proof.
@@dalegreer3095 Bro, do you have any idea how far away inland Turkey is from Rome? The fastest mode of transport was riding horseback, but most people couldn't do that. By foot you can travel about 48km per day with good weather. Basically you need to travel about 50 days to go from Rome to inland Turkey.
@@verward OP was talking about "thousands of miles". Is inland Turkey thousands of miles from Rome? All I'm saying is, they didn't have to go to Sumatra or even India to get those pelts.
Yes, ancient Latin was not really close to ecclesiastical Latin. The C's were hard K's and the V's were W's. Caesar was not "sees her" but "kaiser" (hence the origin of the German word).
@@mikeangelo2886 The emperors carried multiple honorifics. Look especially at the coins of the time. Without any seeming pattern you'll see various combinations of the abbreviations for "Caesar", "Imperator", "Divo", "Princeps", or "Augustus". The titles were granted by the Senate but not all emperors accepted them. Tiberius, for example, refused the titles of Pater Patriae, Imperator, and Augustus. The word "Caesar" though seems to have been the most commonly accepted title and they have been known as "the caesars" since then.
@@whiteknightcat here in Italy, when we study Latin at school we use a different pronunciation of the ecclesiastical Latin, for example we read Caesar "Chēsar" (Ch like "chips")
From a filmmakers point of view, here´s a detail for non-German speaking audience: While you can´t understand the Roman either , the German is today´s language. This is a detail not to be noted if you depend on the English subtitles, but automatically puts you in the perspective of the village people as a viewer. It would work too, if they were dubbed in your language, e.g. English.
@@aliveli-hq6zk i mean yeah it feels like a very obvious thing to point out but there are so many comments complaining about how the germans aren't speaking old german that i think some people are really just that thick and need this spelled out for them
if this is the soundtrack for German speaking areas, it makes sense. But if this is the original English soundtrack, then the Modern German makes no sense at all.
Very good point! You're the only one saying so! I wonder if the Roman knew what was being said and to make a point of utter dominion still spoke in Latin, that it was a psychological tactic of oppression. From what I've learned the Romans were horribly brutal as they expanded their republic then later called it an empire.
Not true. If you have lived abroad awhile you start to understand what locals mean even if you do not have full fluency. Have to live in a place a bit before that kicks in.
@@mwj5368 Not really though roman rule only went bad in places that were staunchly anti-roman or really cherished their independence kinda like with the mongols, you just have to look at gaul or iberia to understand that if their was cooperation the regime was very beneficial to the conquerded.
The Roman Generals & Emporers & High Ranking Officers where all looking like Demi God's 😂🤷🏾♂️. Generals & Emporers wore lion mains as capes. & Their armor look like it was designed by Versace & they're Riding with The Calvery🏇 Red Mohawks.
What I love most about this scene is that it’s exactly how I always imagined the Romans to be in this period! Very arrogant, obnoxious, confident and intimidating. Not fearing anybody.
@Andrea Porte The dictionary definition of arrogance does not include any qualifier about the presumption of superiority being baseless. It's weird that you apologize for your English while simultaneously (erroneously) correcting people's English.
But it's probably not how they were in this instances . Many tribal leaders willingly aligned with Rome and their leaders got a lot of benefits from it .
Guys, chill. This show was made in Germany and they want to make the barbarians more "close" to the viewer, that's why they use modern German, and at the same time they want to alienate the Roman's by having them talk in another language most people don't know. It's not about everything being historically accurate, but to make the viewer have more warmth and to sympathize with the barbarians and to portray the Roman's as what they are, an invading imposing force.
modern geman is the obvious choice or else the whole show would've had to be watched with subtitles regardless of the viewer. It may would've been more historical, but much effort would've been needed and it would've been less entertaining. The other question is whether it is even possible to reconstruct germanic languages from that time.
Wait, so you’re telling me Romans didn’t speak modern English with British accents?
no they did speak the queens English
"Thwoah him to the gwound!"
@@狼川-b5m ?
@@Konoronn Monty Python reference
@@狼川-b5m
"Say that again."
"BIGGUS DICKUS"
This is historically inaccurate. We all know that Augustus appointed his good friend Biggus Dickus as the new governor of Germania minor.
@Gastalion Iglorien LOL
@Gastalion Iglorien you know what she is called?
Biggus Dickus, aka. Germanicus. That will come in season 2.
Hahaha
@druss999 I thought that was Longus Dongus?
As an Italian I can confirm that I can understand everything he says because of English subtitles
Hahaha
why do you precise your nationality ?? italian is not latin, it's just normal that you can't understand if you didn't learn latin , i'm french and i don't understand latin
@@anriettecooper6935 italian is a tuscan dialect of latin
@@goatsun1300 Italian and French are languages from Latin ( and Spanish and Portuguese too)
@@anriettecooper6935 what a stupid comment, I am italian and can understand spanish without having studied it for example. italian is the closest living language to latin, for an italian speaker latin is intelligible at some extents in written form btw
I'm italian and can confirm he speaks like an italian lawyer today.
Yo soy avocado
@@Iron_Arnie Yo soy sauce.
@@Iron_Arnie Yo soy pollo pastrami.
*I have several questions*
C a z z o
Dude that actor nails the Roman superiority complex better than anyone else I’ve ever seen. You just feel it. So well performed
It wasn't a superiority complex. Romans were superior under any aspects compared to those barbarians.
@@Filippo-hp3uk so, what happened in Teutoburg forest? Where was Roman Germania?
@@Unknown-bi7wf teutoburg was only one battle, whole central europe was conquered and kept under roman's control for several centuries... dont be as stupid and ignorant as those barbarians lol.
@@call99P Right. Is that why there are so many romance speakers in Germany?
@@Unknown-bi7wf, bro, the Romans never wanted to conquer the Germanic lands, they considered the barbarians too uncivilized to be part of the Roman Empire ... when too many Roman citizenships were given to too many barbarians, there were internal revolts in the Roman Empire, in particular in its main province, the Italian one ... and it is no coincidence that the Western Roman Empire collapsed (the one with the most barbarians inside it) but not the Eastern one
Him: "Fuck, these brutes don't understand a word"
Me (reading subtitles): "Haha yeah... savages"
Same 😂
im italian and i felt that...
An intelectual****
Lol
Ahahahahahh grande
I respect them for actually trying this, basically no show ever does this
the weird thing is they go realism on the latin and then make the Germanic tribe speak modern German.
@@johannesschmitz6370 Proto Germanic is so archaic and a lot of it is lost to time. It would be so hard, and would still be inaccurate even after all the effort
Vikings does archaic french or some variation of frankish
Vikings does
@@ekerilaz723 What do you mean? its Proto Germanic we are talking about, not proto Altaic. It wouldn't matter minor inaccuracies
As a German, I can confirm that I can understand everything spoken by the Germanics in the movie, because they speak modern German.
you mean the brutes?
@@rothsshvili5125 No, he means the free people living in those territories.
@@rothsshvili5125 ita, barbaros qui agros Romani imperii inique vindicarunt
@@giuliogrifi7739 brutes then
@@lordkrauter or barbarians. whichever you like
>barges into village
>demands tribute to Rome
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
Based
*> posts green text on yt*
@@jlitodelcid326 > thinks green text doesn't belong YT
> is ok with dead meme speech
kek
@waitasecond *gets genocided by Germanicus*
@@aureliusrex7827 Based on what?
After 3 years of Latin classes more than 57 years ago, I can't believe I fucking understood what he said.
jim, you should join a latin speaking club or organization to further learn classical latin because your 3 years of learning sure didnt go to waste. all the best.
Godam, Jimbo, memory like a steel trap. That's awesome.
Aye, you've got the memory of an Elephant there, friend.
Aww! You are a great testimony to all those moms out there (like me) doing homeschool Latin (Memoria Press) My daughter will be going to school eventually in a year, but I’m still going to learn alongside her, at home. 🤍
Yeah thanks to the captions at the bottom
Centurion: Rome wants tribute in cows OR grain.
Translator: Rome wants tribute in cows AND grain.
Centurion: You have 3 days.
Translator: He wants 3 girls.
Well, shit, look at them. Wouldn't you?
That doesn't seem terribly offbrand for the roman empire :p
I suppose the translator is still learning.
Now i am afraid of translator. Since anytime 2 languages cross each other, not only some people may not translated words correctly or the entire sentences but just the short & simpleflip version, it could unintentionally twist the meaning into somethings rather strange, confuseing or funny at best ... or offending, terrified & hostile at worst.
We never know what will happened after that too.
Oh, imagine if that was more than just 2 very diffirent Languages. We should also beware of keeping the sentences long enough & informed. The longer it is the harder for translating them, with high chances of misleading it too.
@@blugaledoh2669 he did on purpose in the show it is revealed that he is a traitor
He's actually the interpreter but no one cares... "🥴THERE'S A DIFFERENCE???"
Yeah but no one cares.
This scene is fantastically acted.
The Roman Centurion not only exudes complete authority and dominance, but a frightening menace, and does so in the original language, not the language of poets and scholars, but of brutal unrestrained military power.
@chrisdawson1776
Just out of interest why would you ask such a disconnected question that borders on the insane.
@@chriscole4092 Why do you refuse to condemn Hamas?
@@chriscole4092 I believe that is a comment that you're not supposed to take seriously xD
@@chriscole4092 he is a troll
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The language is cool and all but can we appreciate that they got Italians to play romans not English people
@Phrnch Mdl Not really true
@Phrnch Mdl are you tripping on acid? "They had only orgies and buttrammings so they stopped having children" is one of the insanest shit i've ever read
@Phrnch Mdl Hahahahaha where people like this crawl from?
@Phrnch Mdl You think that a few Germanic tribes can replace more than 6 million Romans in the Italian peninsula? The most populous place in Europe at the time? Stop spitting bullshit.
@Phrnch Mdl no, they mixed all together but 90 % of today Italians are direct descendants of the ancient italics tribes, it was genetically verified.
The accent is absolutely terrible. Ancient Roman horses sounded nothing like that.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
bwhahaha
True, the subtle change in the "Uehehehe" and the intonation of the "Hieee" means different things nowadays smh
_"Whinnyes maximus!"_
Get my angry like, you madlad
The guy playing the Roman commander is a really good actor, everything about his character is intense and intimating.
@@daarksideyt Varus isn't in this scene
@@daarksideyt Neither is armenius in this scene lol.
@@daarksideyt r you high mate
Hold on what movie or series is this ?
they killed him out of the series, big mistake.
What facinates me is thw fluidity of the speech. When other movies/seriea try to speak latin it sounds broken, you can hear the pauses in the speech as the actor tries to remember the lines. This is... just perfecr. I can close my eyes and imagine a centurion giving out orders
Because they are Italian 👍🏽
They’re speaking a Sicilian dialect on top of Latin
@@claudiamarianidamato9499 Shitalian
Shitbarbarian ;)
They casted actual italians in this show to play roman characters. That's probably why. Too bad the second season was awful.
Funny thing is that the actor for Metellus, Valerio Morigi, is actually from Rome. Can't get more Roman than that.
But actually the Roman dialect have nothing to do with Latin, if I remind well, the Sardinian dialect is the one more similar to the original Latin
@@FedoReds88 I heard the most similar existing, to the original Latin is Romanian. :D
@@FedoReds88 current Italian is too “vulgar” to be considered traditional Latin XD.
@@overlord5068 well no shit. It’s been 2000 years
@@overlord5068 Romans weren't pure Italics. By the time Rome took over the Italian peninsula there at least 4 different groups: Italic tribes, Celts (in the North), Etruscans (in present Tuscany) and Greeks (in the South). So by the time Romans started to conquer the rest of Europe, Romans were already mixed.
Very convincing Latin. Not just the pronunciation, but the attitude.
That attitude is the same with all dominant powers.
on the other side. The German dialect, those Barbarians speak is unacurate for this century. As a Sough-German i can approve that.
@@Aldiraider arent they just speaking normal german?
@@andrewjennings7306 They are speaking standard German (Hochdeutsch), which didn't exist back in these days.
@Harald Harster you can assess that from the marvelous deeds of Roman diplomacy, which 9 times out of 10 consisted of the Romans diplomats barging into the talks, demanding whatever they needed on the grounds of, well, being Roman, going into a tantrum after being rejected and resorting to the force approach.
Then again, they had every reason to be arrogant.
The centurion gave himself away by using the wrong three finger sign. He's an English spy!
Was that a reference to inglorious bastards. If it was great if not you'll still have my like.
Yes! they learned nothing from inglorious basterds...
@@crimson6906 its a reference but also Truth, as an italian i noticed immediatly the mistake
Actually I think he is an Italian actor.
DREI GLÄSER
The arrogance in that "Quid?". Phenomenal acting.
Damn the Romans are a whole other level of badass when they're not speaking in British accents.
Latin was an Ancient "English" for a lot longer than English is right now :D
it's so nice to see how they punish those barbarians
I dont understand the logic there, but kay.
@@KillerLettuce in a lot of old tv show or movie, the Romans mostly speak latin but with a very thick British accent. One of the best example is probably "The life of Brian" movie
@@zee446 I was speaking more to what they said about speaking Latin makes them a whole other level of "badass." Just not sure how the language someone speaks is the qualifier for what makes one badass.
I'm giving them a hard time because badass is an overused word and has lost all meaning.
They even pronounce the letter “v” as a “w” sound. Very impressive.
yes, I was half expecting him to demand that they welease woger.
I read wery impressive
Like the Russians.
@@racketman2u That's hilarious 😂
@@tash_g wery impressiw
"What he's saying?"
"Something about your mother."
And so the barbarians invaded Rome.
Wanna know a fun fact about that time they did that? The first city they sacked believing it was Rome was in fact Luni, seeing all the marble and being the architecture so far from what they were used to see in their eyes all that luxury it must have been the capital
@@OskarCremonesi wasnt it the viking Bjorn Ironside who invaded Luni thinking it was Rome?
@@HFDailyFeed Well, they weren't the brightest.
@@HFDailyFeed Yeah it was him!
LOL
I picked the Latin sentences out for you guys and added the English translation.
"Caesar sanctae urbis Romae Augustus novum legatum ad Germaniam misit senatorem Publium Quinctilium Varum."
"Augustus, the Caesar of the holy city of Rome, has sent a new custodian to Germania: Senator P. Quinctilius Varus."
"Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent."
"Fuck, these brutes there just don't catch anything!"
"Posthac Roma tributa vostra amplius non remissura est" ('vostra' is a dialect; common would be 'vestra')
"As of now, Rome will no longer waive your tributes."
"Varus exigit ab omni tribu pretium vicen(or)um boum vel quinquagenum ponderum frumenti centenarii."
"Varus requires every tribe to pay the value of twenty cows or fifty hundredweights of grain."
"Quid?......Dic iterum!"
"What?.....Say that again!"
"Spatium vobis est triduum."
"You got a stretch of three days."
Thanks man 😊
Thank you!
Thank you ❤
In Italian:
"Augusto, Cesare della santa urbe di Roma, mise in Germania come nuovo legato il senatore Publio Quintilio Varo."
"Fottuti, ste belve non capiscono proprio nulla."
"Da adesso, Roma non rinunzierà più ai vostri tributi."
"Varo esige da ogni tribù il prezzo di venti buoi o cinquanta quintali di frumento."
"Che? Dillo di nuovo"
"Il vostro tempo è di tre dì."
Salve Domine, grazie
Don't worry, Steiner counterattack will change everything.
Bad news about the counterattack...
Wenck army is waiting.
"Steiner didn't have enough force. The attack didn't take place.."
@@파버카스텔 *removes glasses...*
"The following stay here. Berulf, Segestes, Folkwin... and Thusnelda."
@@eelcoblaauw6689 "THAT WAS AN ORDER! STEINER'S ATTACK WAS AN ORDER!!!"
"Do you understand what they're saying?"
"No, but it's pretty badass."
Would be The other way around, Germanic is more BadAss then Latin
I am a Portuguese speaker, and understand most of Latin, and I think some Languages that came From Latin are Very silly, like Spanish, or Portugal Portuguese
@@Kravenrogue oque é silly mano?
@@niet2367 algo tipo "bobinho", "besta", "engraçado"
Tipo vc já ouviu a dublagem do Dragon Ball de Portugal ou da Espanha?
O Bang é engraçado demais kkkkkkkkkkkk
Eu não consigo levar a sério Português de Portugal ou Espanhol kkkkkkkkkkkk
@@Kravenrogue Eu também não consigo levar a sério.
He says the NCR won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that
People complaining about how they use modern German instead of proto German don't understand the purpose of language in this scene. The use of latin here isn't for the sake of historical accuracy, it's just to make the Romans sound alien and unintelligible, as they do for the main characters. Whereas the barbarians, the shows heroes, are meant to sound relatable. Hence they speak the same tongue as the people watching the show
Ah ! Mais je comprends mieux les Romains que les Germains...bon, je suis français et d'origine italienne...
Well said, this was probably an Art Direction choice indeed.
It's ok for me since I do not know any German. It is easy to pretend that they are speaking proto German! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Some people lack a sense of irony
@@DomenicoScarlatti895 What is 'I surrender' in French, and does it come from Latin ?
Latin has such an exotic and refined beauty to it.
When he goes "post hac, roma tributa vostra...", it sounds so uniquely beautiful. Each syllable defined on its own yet they flow together so beautifully
The most beautiful language is Spanish as you sound and it is the most complete language in words for all things el español el idioma más hermoso y el más hablado de los idiomas de origen latin
Well i mean, such beautiful languages like the romance languages must come from somewhere right? 🇷🇴🇵🇹🇲🇫🇪🇦🇮🇹=SPQR
Latin is literally the Romanian language
F those empty nationalists. Latin is unique. Romanian or any other European language can't compete with such a beautiful language.
There is a reason the Roman Catholic Church only did latin masses for so long.
Rome is an eternal thought in the minds of the Gods.
Roman Soldier: Fuck. These brutes don't understand a word.
Everyone watching without the help of subtitles : ........
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Underrated comment right here
I took it as us, the audience, watching the program.
I speak spanish, and I understand part of what they are saying
in Italy we still use many Latin words.
the rest are very similar
I'm so tired of romans in media speaking english in British or American accents. This is actually a nice breath of fresh air.
lmaooo why are people getting so unnecessarily triggered, I feel like I'm on Twitter
It felt like you were living in the territories of the Roman Republic/Empire 🦅. Real Latin. Heck had it been Spanish, French, Italian or portuguese, I can almost buy it. Since they’re the Romance languages themselves. But Latin. Thats authenticity.
In a movie made by English speakers, for an English speaking audience, it makes sense for the protagonists to speak in contemporary modern English. If those characters are, for example, ancient Romans, there is an implicit understanding that while the actors are literally speaking English, the characters they are portraying are not - that their speech is, in effect, being “translated” for our benefit. It’s even commonly called “the translation convention”.
The makers of “Barbarians”, who are German, have done exactly the same thing with the speech of their protagonists - the Germanians - who are played by actors speaking contemporary, modern High German. The Romans speak Latin because (a) their scenes are far fewer in number, (b) they are not the protagonists, and (c) the fact that the two populations cannot understand each other’s language is narratively important. You simply couldn’t tell that story if the actors playing Romans were speaking the same language as those playing Germanians.
Once you accept that the characters’ dialogue is being translated into your language, for your benefit, quibbles about the “accuracy” of whatever accent the actor delivers those lines in becomes completely nonsensical. It’s already the “wrong” language, so what the hell does the accent matter? In effect, it’s not the character’s voice you’re hearing, it’s the actor acting as a translator so that you can understand what’s going on.
Wait when did the romans ever get an American accent?
@@unclejoeoakland Plenty of old Hollywood sword and sandal epics.
@@fromchomleystreet ok good point. But even then they always seem to be affecting british accents. And furthermore the brits do seem to do it better, in fairness.
This scene alone is epic. And the classic latin pronunciation is amazing. It sounds so majestic. The actor did a really good job with the speech. Outstanding.
also his impressions, his body language. This clip really made me check this show.
@@Billswiftgti true indeed. I was also committed after seing this majestic scene. However the show-although really good- was somehow not as advertised with said scene. I guess my expectations were just too high
@@maelb2868 well, it is a movie literally someone behind the scenes told the actor to say the phrase like this and he probably practiced it, the troops of the Roman legions did not speak (obviously) like that, but rather the art of oratory was alien to They and reserved for the people of the Senate, I mean e people of letters, what the troops of the legions really spoke was a vulgar Latin that spread throughout the rest of Europe that Rome conquered, from this are born for example the Romance languages ( Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, French, etc).
That actor is italian, that's why He's that good. His name is Valerio Morigi.
@@anyeoca9157 when he spoke to the other romans he did use vulgar latin. the reason the reast of his speach is so proper is because it was a directive from Rome or on Rome's authority and so was probably written by a bureaucrat
Latin is such a beautiful language.
Best spoken ancient latin in TV or Movie ever
100% agree.
I Much rather have this then that everyone speaks English.
Hey maybe I learn a word of 2.
There are some small issues with the pronunciation and the word “fuck” isnt what the Romans would have said (they would have said something like “By Jupiter”) it’s overall very good.
Yeah but they shouldn't be speaking 100% latin in a Hollywood movie, especially if the Romans are the "protagonists". That would be just horrible.
@@gandalfthegrey2592 not for me,
but it is subjective in the end.
When they accurately pronounced the "v” like a “w.”
That gave me life.
Same here. But there were also some inaccurate points, which spoiled the vibe of the whole picture unfortunately...
Let me tell you about Classical Latin: the latin alphabet has only 5 vowels. so if they had a sound like _ë_ or _ö_ , linguists can't tell.
another example: the city of Brixium is today spelled Brescia in italian, which in english orthography would be Breshia.
The nail on the coffin is that Latin culture emulated Greek culture, like the Francophonie of 1800 - everybody just loved French, dei was saying "nation, revolution, reunion, direction, administration, Napolion" and "directeur, liberateur, provocateur, terminateur, influenceur". But the people don't say "nation", dei say "nay-schuhn", dei don't say "revolution", dei say "revuh-liu-schuhn".
Imagine some doofus 2000 years from now, trying to speak English judging by the orthography only: I am God. English orthography is retarded.
@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 well how do you pronounce the letter 'I' from an English text, if you donno how the English pronounce the letter 'I'?
Nobody knows how Classical Latin sounded like. Classic Latin writing was clearly influenced by Ancient Greek writing. But neither do we know how the Ancient Greek orthography was pronounced.
don't worry about "I am God" it's just a sentence.
Also the "r". English and especially American English "r" is like I'm listening someone with the tongue paralysis.
I studied latin...long ago :)
it's not a "W" but a "U" , we pronounce it in a different way; we say "U" not "IU".
I also love little details like the Romans asking for “20 cows OR 50 hundredweights of grain”, but the Villager interprets that they want “Livestock and Grain” which increases the tension of the scene
Which makes me thing of how mistakes in translation can and did escalate/aggravate situations.
When you dont hear or properly understand the or it becomes a comma
We want 20 cows, 50 units of grain
Wich is to say. I get that the translator simplified the demands either out of laziness or because he didnt understand the whole sentence
@Hernando Malinche i see.
What a weasel
@@gewuerzwanze5627 I don't think accurare translation would help much. 20 cows or, if I'm reading right, 5000 grain is abusrd in the span of three days seems absurd. These people would've had to not be paying for years for them to be able to meet their demands.
@MeChupaUnHuevon I dont't remember that scene, but as it is in this scene, he says exactly what the romans said. The romans said, they want the value of 20 cows, or 50 hundredweights grain. The key word is "value". They don't care if they get 20 cows, 50 hundredweights of grain, or 10 cows and 25 hundredweights of grain, just give them the same value as they asked for. Segestes says, they want livestock and grains, he doesn't mean that they need to pay both 20 cows AND 50 hundredweights of grain, just that they want a certain amount of these.
Hats off to him, amazing acting, the pronounciation, and attitude was exactly like the romans, give this man a oscar
I actually felt the role of translator has always been incredibly undervalued in historic shows. Indeed, the ability to speak multiple languages was incredibly valuable and translators actually had extremely comfortable lives because of that job. Much like writing and reading Latin, it was a pretty rare thing, since most people lived within a few miles of their own places for most of their lives, barring the occasional journey to nearby cities or holy places.
Also a fun added detail: the translator is translating wrong, and the words he’s messing up are such basic ones it creates the impression he is doing it on purpose. Which given what happened next historically, is probably exactly what they’re conveying.
Did you see the conditions they were living on, he could of been the best off in the village it's just that the bar is too low to notice.
yeah comfortable, until you are sent as an envoy.
Actually watched the show, he speaks the language because he's a collaborator with the Roman's. The entire village hates him, him speaking latin so well plays into that idea
@@luxborealis What happened afterwards?
If I were the Roman, I would ask the Germans for tribute too since they clearly have the excess to give...just look at the men’s bellies.
That one shirtless guy could have been in a traveling show as the Fattest Man in Germania
Big boy ate all the cows and grain that's why they don't have any
😅😂😂
That’s all beer
@@bitrexgm He's just hiding the cows there
I loved the efforts on languages in the show, especially casting german and italian speakers, the italian actors having the closest natural accent to speak latin credibly
Actually there is plenty of evidence that claccial latin sounded nothing like Italian. We know from commonly misspelled words in graffiti (which were written phonetically). For example, classical Latin Caesar was pronounced Kai-sar, not See-zar or Seh-sarre.
Still the dedication to actually speak Latin is more than I could ask for, it sounds amazing and brings this scene from a 6/10 to a 9/10.
@@faijro9260 wait so fallout nv was right?
@@Willie6785 Jep, though it should be noted it is an entire field of study and I am no expert in it. But I was taught the Kais-ar pronounciation.
@@faijro9260 very cool. wonder if the game's devs knew about that lol
What about the Romanians?
Someone (don't know who) once said that Italian is the language for conquering hearts, and Latin is the language for conquering countries.
Yes,and the french to speak of love,the english to bisnes,the spanish to talk with god,and the german to order the dogs.😮
@@Carlos-uq8if I'd say rather that Spanish is for love, French if you wanna sound like an arrogant pr!ck
@@Carlos-uq8if As a German: We tried 😶
@@Carlos-uq8ife o Português para conquistar copas da mundo 😂
wow, Romans who actually sound Latin
The actor is Italian, and from Rome, you can't get any closer than that
@@andreabianchi6156 Cough Sardinian
@@tylerellis9097 well sure, if you mean on a linguistic standpoint
@@tylerellis9097 definitely
I think people don’t get the irony of your comment...Latin was not a spoken language other than on the outskirts of Rome.
Has anyone here commented on the fact that the riders didn't have stirrups? I've always found it fascinating that the stirrup didn't reach Europe until the 8th century. It had to have been very difficult for actors used to them to adapt to this scene. That's actually a detail most period pieces miss.
Wow didnt know about that peice of trivia. Personally, I learned to ride bareback so stirrups sometimes just feel in the way. Plus I saw a nasty accident where a horse rolled over on someone when their foot was stuck in a stirrup. So I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of skepticism regarding stirrups when they first got introduced. Ultimately though, makes long rides far more comfortable and was an excellent invention.
The stirrup was a technology invented by the Mongols...that is what made the tribes of the Asian Steppes so imposing and feared by all Europeans they encountered.
I wonder why an open stirrup (more like a bicycle pedal) was never developed. Could support weight without trapping the rider's foot. I guess the trick would be it would be much more involved to manufacture, since a stirrup is just a loop of leather, but this would need some serious iron reinforcement.
@@jessegutierrez6923 Lmao your phrase makes no sense whatsoever. The mongols never invaded european countries (and europe was never, and still isn't, a country). The mongols at most invades and pillaged central/west asian countries. Like modern day Kazakhstan, iran, iraq. They never even stepped foot in what you'd consider "european countries" today.
@@Mantorok12 because you also need to pull up on the stirrup as well as pull down. It also moves around a lot and doesn't doesn't in a fixed place like a bicycle pedal
This is easily the most intimidating depiction of Romans I’ve ever seen in media, awesome.
Yeah, pretty amazing.
I'd say Titus Pullo from Rome was quite intimidating, but, yeah, I get your point...
It didn't last very long unfortunately
Also life of brian did a very good job
It probably has a lot to do with what's behind them. Could you kill a squad of veteran legionnaires? Probably not, but let's imagine you did. What happens next is that a whole legion delete's your little village.
They're not just scary because they're tough warriors, they're scary because they represent a power you cannot hope to beat.
"Welcome to Rome!"
"But we're in Gaul"
"I said WELCOME TO ROME" *stabs you*
I love this so much
History of conquest
I foresee new governor Varus having some difficulty.
Yeah it did not end well...
A dog that can foresee the future?
BURN AT THE STAKE!
Rip Varus’ legions.
@@olakarlsson7496 push your luck ? Rome avenged that in badly. They obliterated every opponent for centuries.
@@antuan9325 but they never crossed the Rhine
the worst in this clip is actually the germanians speaking modern day high german
@Stxr KillerX protogermanic
exactly my thoughts. they made efforts to have correct latin but not germanic
edit: it makes sense if it's a german show
The germanians are the protagonists in this series. If everyone would've spoken the old way, the whole thing would've had to be subbed which would be a terrible experience and too much work for nothing.
@@xInsaneGames
Finally, someone with common sense.
@@Sealdrop Probably similar to Swiss German.
This is totally inaccurate. Everyone and their mama knows Ancient Romans, the founders of the Latin based languages, spoke with perfect British accents sounding like theyre from the north.
I don't understand why are you all complaining about Romans speaking English. If the actors are English, I really don't want them to speak another language, because in 99% of the time, they absolutely butcher the pronunciation if they haven't actually studied that language.
@@henryviii2091 You do realise nobody speaks Latin anymore? So english actors or not, they will butcher it regardless unless properly taught
@@AverageAlien Latin has still been spoken for all this time by some people, it is still thought in school in Romance speaking countries. And yeah, probably the pronunciation we have today is not 100% correct, but we know that it was a phonetic language, and since all the modern Romance languages are pronounced similarly, except for different influences, we can assume how Latin would have sounded like, and we are not that far off from the real thing.
Also, there actually are many other ways that helped linguists throughout the time to figure out what Latin sounded like, like some actual manuals, or ways that Romans described how their language is superior to others, and more. You have to do the research on your own.
The point is that the pronunciation of English is so different from other languages, that a native speaker has a very difficult time, pronouncing a different language
@@henryviii2091 Nah, a northern english accent is just nicer to hear than the entire Latin language tbh.
how fucking original
Man i just love the Roman empire. The language, its just, so powerful. Damn
Badass bro!
Cyrodill meets the people of Skyrim.
You're the best
Except Cyrodiil provides grain _to_ Skyrim, not the other way around.
@@AndrewReed420 Yet the commenters like to forget that the Aldmeri Dominion withdrew from Hammerfell entirely even when the Empire abandoned it's province
@@Manchevo Yet the commenters like to forget that the General Decanus of the Empire,while ordered to abandon the province, left the Redguards with his veteran troops, who went on to train the army of hammerfell amd coordinated the war effort... What the commenters like to forget is that the Empire drained Dominions of resources,they would need to pacify Hammerfell at the Red Ring...
@@Manchevo What the commenters like to forget, is that it is easier to wage a war of attrition in a desert than fertile farmland.
Some of those Germanic people don't look like they've missed out on many meals.
@deliverence nah man obese doesn't necessarily mean eating too much. It can also mean you're eating bad, in this case they consume too much wheat.
Look for pictures of Venezuela people, a lot of them are obese and not exactly for eating like kings
@deliverence what? What are you talking about
@deliverence
Does everything have to come down to brainwashing and liberals for you Americans? The show is German for fuck sake
@deliverence I love when one of you gets let out into the wild and stumbles around like someone’s drunk uncle spewing incoherent bullshit about subjects they know nothing about. You think you’re landing zingers when you actually just look insane and stupid. It’s hilarious.
@deliverence why would they walk endless miles everyday? Do you think they’re hunter gatherers?
It’s awesome that the Roman kits are extremely authentic. The Centurion has Lorica Squamata + Phalerae, along with the Gallic type helmet which would be accurate for the 1st Century AD. And to be accompanied by the aquilifer… mint.
America is New Rome. It is propaganda to make the Germanies break their Wall Street shackles. Send in the 101st. They are plotting rebellion.
The fact that Varus has just been appointed as the governor of germanía means that this scene most likely took place in or around 7 AD, right?
@@estheay3611 Yeah
I like the guy with the tiger pelt
@@condor237me too
-- *Vārus exigit ab omnī tribū **_pretium_** vīcēnum bovum **_vel_** quinquāgēnum ponderum frūmentī centennāriī.*
"Varus demands from every tribe _the price_ of twenty oxen _or_ of fifty pounds of grain."
The Roman didn't want livestock and grain. They wanted money, and gave oxen *or* grain as a reference to the Barbarians which didn't use money.
Varus exige a cada tribu el precio de veinte bueyes o cincuenta libras de grano.
Varus exige de toda tribo o preço de vinte bois ou cinquenta 'pesos' de grãos.
@@guillermorivas7819Granos = centeno
Vars pretinde de la fiecare trib ca pret doua dzeci de boi ori cinci dzeci de... Futu-te!
Imagine saying barbarians unironically
BBC is going to dub this and gives the Romans Queen's English and the Germans Yorkshire dialect.
Ow doo
Woz he sed, man?
He sez he wants us cows un som weetabix like.
Ar’ yes fookin’ blind o what, mate?!
man i miss I,Claudius
in 40 years BBC is going to dub this and gives the Romans Prophet Muhammad's Arabic and the Germans Peshawar dialect.
When Netflix already dubbed it? I kinda doubt it.
Show: *perfectly portrays the dead language Latin in a spoken form*
Comments: "The Germans speak High German"
Hey now Latin isn’t dead, we just call it Spanish or Italian!
Or French or Romanian or Portuguese... lol
@@tlaloqq it's dead
The people complaining about the spoken German are oxygen thieves
@@tlaloqq classical Latin is dead
so? there were spoken forms of latin
everyone: oh wow Latin
me, a German speaker: well isn't that proto-germanic suprisingly easy to understand
Yeah. I was shocked when I heard the barbarians' response. Quite recognizable. They must have learned it from the same book I did.
It would have been better is they actually spoke Proto-Germanic. But this might be much more difficult to reconstruct because of the lesser amount of available written text. But nevertheless, the fact that they speak German is better than if they spoke English.
@@GlennMulderij 👏👏👏👏👏
These people would not have spoken proto-Germanic. By the time that this takes place in 1st century the once common proto-Germanic had already started branching and developing into various different Germanic language groups as Germanic people had spread over a wide area. Cherusci - the people in the video - were part of the greater Suebi tribal entity and what they spoke was the primary root of the coming High Germanic languages, which contains what is Standard German of today. Obviously they would not have spoken modern Standard German, but what they spoke has not been sufficiently reconstructed for it to be fully spoken in a production like this and in this regard having German actors speaking modern Standard German is easy to explain.
@@NikoChristianWallenberg This is the kind of flex I was looking for.
*The Romans:* _It appears our superiority has led to some controversy._
Same with the Americans these days. It's costing them dearly!
Well America’s economy is doing a lot better than our economy here in Britain that’s for sure.
Yet Americans have no cultural superiority, but economic, political and military.
The Romans were indeed sophisticated compared to the Germanic tribes, yet if you think the Anglos are too sophisticated for you; i have bad news, LOL.
Barbarians director: *takes the effort to have actors speak correct classical Latin for historically correct setting*
Also Barbarians director: *just regular modern German for the Germanic tribes*
guys I FUCKING GET IT. THE SHOW IS FOR GERMANS AND THERES NO ANCIENT GERMAN. I just like the contrast, chill
well, there was no other choice because proto germanic is not known anymore today
That’s as close as you can get
Have you seen any inscriptions of proto-germanic? They can get reaaally cryptic.
@@chancellorpalpatineakathes6130 well, debatable. they could have used middle high german, spoken in medieval times or even better old english as it is the language the continental germans spoke 1600 years ago as well, as it comes from there.
@@weisthor0815 i know that its not around anymore. I just really enjoy the contrast of it
As someone who speaks Spanish, and can perfectly understand Italian and French, this was the weirdest experience ever. It's like that video of what English sounds like to non-English speakers.
What? So because apparently you can understand 4 languages it's just shocking that there's a language out there in the world you don't know? I don't know if this is egotistical, delusional, or plain stupid...
@@MrShitthead it's not shocking it all. The sensation is just strange because Spanish, French, and Italian, are derivatives of Latin. So the way Latin sounds to my ear when pronounced perfectly like in this clip makes it sound like I should understand it, even though I don't. Does that make sense? If not I can help explain it even more just let me know how you go :)
+M Anderson how do you not know that those languages he listed are descended from Latin? Some of the words are practically the same and you can kind of cross-communicate with some.
@@MrShitthead your arrogance is hilarious, tell me this is bait
inoltre 0:40 "Futue te (ipsum)" ( fuck (yourself)) somiglia molto anche al rumeno :)
as an italian person who studies ancient latin i can confirm that it is really spot on!!
@Keys & Locks of course we can't, that's the closest we'll ever get thought
@Keys & Locks what are you talking about? Latin? Greek?
Can I ask why they are not pronouncing the letter s at the end of names in Latin.
ahahahahah your studies are shitty as hell since they spoke aulic latin and not plebes one.
@Keys & Locks No, those ending with m are nasalised vowels, and neither is the s pronounced as the way modern day English speaking people would.
Hear that? That's the sound of law, order, running water and advanced engineering.
Something these Germanics will never understand in a million years
Well, I have all these things around me without hearing a contemptuous voice all the time.
That the sound... Of civilization.
@@AaronTruffer Nope, it's the sound of soldiery capable of committing al kinds of inhuman barbarities themselves. If you want to hear the sound of civilization, you should listen to one of the readings of Cicero or Seneca that are available online for free. They were civilized, humane people. Let's not be naive though: what we see in this video is not the civilized face of ancient Rome, but that of the brutal conqueror. The legions did not come in peace and had no scruples about stealing, raping, or murdering those whom they conquered. Vae victis!
"When the Legion is in town, strength speaks Latin."
Me, an English speaker: “Well... that was easy to read”
Yeah, I wondered what was up, haha
@Glorious Wolf Why are you mad he just made a comment.
@Glorious Wolf based
@@sockburner4041 how is that based
I hop you'll get thousands of likes. You deserved em :)
"What he say?"
"I dont know, something about being gay."
I thought he said "seven days".
“He said he’s gonna bum you to death in seven days.”
only in your dream
Wasn't that quote from The Simpsons?
@@samvs1259 yeah
With one two minute clip you suckered me into binge watching this entire series I had never heard of before. Nicely done. Netflix should pay you for this.
What series is this?
@@anisalawal4598 Barbarians, it says in the title haha
Watched it twice : )
But how was it!?
Same here! I've got to look it up now, though I doubt I'll watch it all because the battle gore will probably force me to quit watching it. I can't handle all that.
BBC report:
English language:
-It uses and depends on the Roman alphabet.
-60% of its vocabulary comes from Latin, compared to only 26% of Germanic vocabulary.
-Its grammar is not completely Germanic, it has parts of grammatical structure from Latin.
For this reason, philologists consider the English language a hybrid language. The information in this video is correct.
By the way, I'm English, greetings from London.
And Don't Forget That Majority Of English Population Is Celtics That Are Related To latins That Got Mixed Up Together With Latins And Germanic tribes
English was more Germanic before the Norman invasion. The Latin part of English comes from French, a Latin Language.
BRAVO! In Italia lo sappiamo benissimo, mi stupisce che bisogna ribadirlo ai tuoi connazionali.
Saluti.
as a dutch/english native whos currently studying french and german, i can confirm french(latin) has a much more relateable vocabulary
but the german grammatical structure is much more relateable in latin, interesting how that turns out
Hi ^^ I'm a Spaniard, sometimes I understand what they are speaking about in Latin if I have context. In a movie a soldier said "tumultus ad murum" (there's an uproar going on close to the wall), I understood that xD
Nearly spit out my drink when they actually pronounced Caesar correctly
0:25 "kaesar"
@@cesargonzalez4782 ah
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it supposed to be closer to Kye-sur rather than Kye-sar.
@@onehope6448 Nope, the pronouncination here is correct
@@onehope6448 no it is Kye sar
- Caesar sānctae Urbis Rōmae Augustus novum lēgātum ad Germāniam mīsit, sĕnātōrem Publium Quīnctīlium Vārum
- Futuite, bēluae istae pōrro nīl tenent
- Posthāc, Romā tribūta vostra nōn amplius remissūra est
- Vārus exigit ab omnī tribū pretium vīcēnum boum, vel quīnquāgēnum ponderum frūmentī centēnariī
- Quid? Dīc iterum!
- Spatium vobis est trīdŭum!
nihil tenent
"ab omni" is incorrect
@@0110100536 why
oh right, omne
@@beanos5105 certo, ma quella che dice in questo spezzone è la forma contratta "nil" ;)
Centurion: Ulfric Stormcloak, some here in Helgen call you a hero. But a hero doesn't use the voice to murder his king and usurp his throne.
Segimer: What?
Aquifer: Forgive him, he's been playing this new game nonstop.
Amazing
You started this war, plunged Skyrim into chaos. Now the Empire is going to put you down, and restore the peace.
you mean aquilifer? lmao
What is an aquifer ? the guy in charge of water, ahahaha
My Ancestors are smiling down at me Imperial, can you say the same?
This show was absolutely amazing. Netflix needs to follow this trend more
The authenticity of the first season was ok (horrible military camp layout, end of 1st C. roman gear while playing in the early 1st C., absolutely dogshit equipment of the germanic people, romans not using slings but bows instead, romans beeing constantly shown as the bad guys...) . The 2nd season was so bad, that it made the historical advisors quit.
I spoke to one of the advisors, as I am doing living history myself and the stories he told me about the producer really made me angry. Basically it all boiled down to the sentiment, that the authentic stuff restricted the director`s creativity.
How about not making a fucking historic drama but instead a fantasy show if you don´t plan on following the history???
This show goes to great lengths to even have the Romans speak Classical Latin since Latin evolved four times now this is very good authenticity.
The show was made with help by Roman reenactors consulting from Legio XXI Rapax and a Hungarian auxillia cohort.
yeah, and then they had the germannics speak modern german, Aaah! svona móðgun
@Jean Sanchez Actually we have a fairly good idea, reconstructed from modern and extinct dialects
@Jean Sanchez wrong. they spoke an ancient form of norse. the language still spoken today, that is closest to ancient germannic is icelandic. additionally linguists have reconstructed the language spoken by ancient germannic tribes as well.
I just found out about this show and am excited to watch!
When I heard the Centurion say “Senatorem Publium Quinctilius Vauros” and he pronounces it Wauro I had an orgasam. That is correct Classical Latin.
But i think at times he softened his accent makimg it a bit more medieval latin, but overall it was really good
@@lewycraft can you explain? I'm genuinely curious. I remember in my Ancient Roman history class in college my professor told us that modern pronunciation of Latin is wrong and v's sound like w's etc etc. It blew my mind lol ever since I've been very interested in what the Latin of antiquity sounded like.
Nerd
@@manifestdestiny1191 Pronouncing Latin is surprisingly easy to learn. You can teach yourself online to hear it, though you won't have the accent. None of us will.
Waurgasm
0:59 the reason they struggled the provide tribute
Big Hans out here eating all the meats and drinking all the tribes ale
Right, how the fuck they get that big. 😂😂
Dude ate all the cows AND all the grain.
@Phrnch Mdl or... some people were actually fat/muscular and he had connections to the leader of that village so he could eat a lot.
@Phrnch Mdl EH NOPE there has allways been fat people ....what you cant forget is that those people usually didnt pay tribute to anyone but themselves
I wasn't sure about this show at first, but damn....I'm hooked. This is such a well made series.
We all know Romans spoke english, just like every alien species
And Romans attacked New York
😂😂😂
Actually, Romans did not speak English. They spoke classical Latin. The English language as we know it today did not yet exist.
@@michaelerickson985 I'm 99.99% that was supposed to be a joke, because in American or British productions the Romans usually speak English, and so does everyone else, so there's no language barrier even though there often should be. The same goes for aliens in science fiction movies.
@@michaelerickson985 You missed the joke entirely. Don't ever watch Stargate, you'll have an aneurysm wondering how all the species know English.
As somebody who took Roman Latin, this was pretty darn accurate. Some of the ordering of sentences was odd, but it is still a personal choice of the speaker.
Ditto, two years of Latin, but that was over 50 years ago. Futuite was not part of the vocabulary in class (or out).
yes because you know more than a movie studio who can hire professional linguists, script writers, voice trainers, etc.
As a Latin student, i noticed the syllable-quantities more,which were way of. Latin sounds quite melodic which is quality this performance was lacking in. I concede tho,that it would have taken away from the intimidating presence of the soldier, at least for modern western audiences.
@@rad2gnarly9 I mean I did take 7 years of it and have a PhD in Classics 🤷🏼♂️
Ok
1:14
German:Do you see anything to take here!?
Roman: *w h e a t*
I found the subtitled version one of those Roman army songs. I think this is the correct version...
ua-cam.com/video/P7bkjfRuuWw/v-deo.html
@@roufamagga4453
Oh no i got "Romanized"
LOL
I'm downvoting this on behalf of Lindybeige.
@@stephenderry9488 oh what the hell i literally just saw his video about boarding school
One of my favorite series on netflix. Soooo gut die Serie.
Meanwhile in an alternate universe, UA-cam video: “Spoken English from Sex and the City”. All comments are in native Latin, some of them stressing that the actor of the main character is actually from London.
None of the recurring cast of Sex and the City is from London.
@@renerpho That’s why we have alternate realities.
@@MrGilRoland Hoc bonum!
Londinivm
@@renerpho This good what? That isn't a complete sentence.
The centurion says:
"Caesar sanctae urbis Romae Augustus, novum legatum ad Germaniam misit, Senatorem Publium Quinctilium Varum"
"Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent"
"Posthac, Roma tributa vostra non amplius remissura'st"
"Varus exigit ab omni tribu pretium vicenum boum, vel, quinquagenum ponderum frumenti centenarii"
"Quid? Dic iterum!"
"Spatium vobis est triduum"
Sounds like a series of Scientific names of Elements and Plants.
Thanks for the transcript. I had Latin for 7 years but the pronounciation made it really hard to understand more than a few words. Where did you get it from?
@@Armor3d0ne Actually I realized since then that I probably made some mistakes (I used my hearing + latin vocabularies + my very basic Latin knowledge).
If you want a proper explanation (and transcript), check out Polymathy's video about Barbarians: ua-cam.com/video/K7uBUCZgpw8/v-deo.html
@@ligedoji3674 Cannabis Sativa Hollandica,........ dude.
@Md Tamzidul Haque Riaz Sure, it is: "Futuite, beluae istae porro nil tenent" - I added this to my original comment as well and also fixed a few mistakes in it.
Roman dude: "we want livestock *OR* grain"
Translator dude: "they want livestock *AND* grain"
How this altercation could've been resolved:
"Livestock or grain? Well that sounds fair. Understandable. Have a nice one, see you in three days!"
Nice thought, but they technically said they wanted the equivalent of a certain amount of cattle or grain, theoretically they could take both or even other things as substitutes for grain (so long as the total value was equal to 50 hundredweights of grain).
Not that it matters anyway, since they couldn't have afforded it either way, that was the point I believe. Nice joke though.
@@AeneasGemini it was not a joke, they wouldnt have to give both things to the romans if it was translated properly, livestock is also harder to get
I enjoy that little detail too. Feels like it gives some context for how ancient conflicts could have occurred too with limited translation capabilities
maybe bring your own transelator next time to not have this problem?
@@Lemmingcave
The Romans didn't really care about barbaric languages. Speak Latin or Greek , if you can't that's a you problem.
>enters germanic village
>demands tribute
>shows superiority complex
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
based sigma chads
I like how everyone's complaining about the use of modern German. You do realize this is a German show made in Germany with overwhelming German actors for a German audience?? You weren't complaining when Americans made hundreds of movies like that in english. German is still closer to Proto Germanic than English with its 60% or so Latin/ Greek vocabulary.
@Xenophon , exactly
yeah, but that's our America...Lazy german translations. They should have to go out and learn proto-German...
Good point actually. I hadn't thought of that.
They don't even know how proto-germanic sounded so they can't imitatie it
The actors played it bad and the presentation was a pure Desaster.
Die haben daraus ein pures SJWs-fest gemacht
The classical Latin pronunciation is definitely correct! However, as an Italian, I cannot laugh about how strong is the present-day Rome accent of the actor. I guess that makes it even more "authentic" for non-Italians somehow! :D
Hey perhaps they had this accent back then too :)
Mario est mihi
It is very impressive indeed. But as far as classical Latin goes, there a few false pronounciations in the series as well.
"Present-day Rome accent" - as if you would have any idea how "Back-in-the-day" romans sounded :D :D :D
Very true. Despite some indirect sources we just can't know how ancient latin was pronounced during some specific era. We can only make educated guess that will never be more than that.
Anyone notice no stirrups on the horses, nor even high saddles?
Now *that's* historical realism!
Actually, I've seen lots of stirrups :/ the saddles and bits are also not historically correct, however way better and more decent than I've seen in other films.
@@CelticCari welp in most studios they enforce the use of saddles and stirrups for the crews safty, the whole show can be canceled or fined otherwise so as much as it is not historically correct it is for the safty of the actors
@@maorgolan8594 true and I totally agree. It's not that difficult to ride a horse without stirrups as many people might think, but it's way more likely to fall when you or the horse make the slightest mistake. However seeing historically accurate saddles and no stirrups would have put the cherry on the cake
@Alexi Malenkov especially when you have cgi
They actually did use stirrups, however this is excusable for the purpose of safety and ease. Though it would have been nice were the stirrups removed once they had mounted; safety first!
Roman dude: 20 cows OR 50 hundredweights of grain
German dude: They want livestock AND grain
The translator started all of it
Me, an Italian who have studied Latin for almost 8 years and so don't need the subtitles: finally my time has come!
@L S ah ah anche io, solo che, a parte che l'ho studiato una era geologica fa, l'ho studiato con i dittonghi, qui, questi romanacci parlano dicendo "Sanctae" e "Caesar" proprio come si scrive, credo che usino la "Restituta", ci ho messo un po' a capire comunque.....
Complimenti... solo ora, a 35 anni, capisco l'importanza di greco e latino (che senza dubbio imparerò)... l'obbligatorietà dell'inglese è un modo per renderci barbari
@@lucat5479 Usano la pronuncia corretta, Luca.
@@christiancristof491 si mi sembra appunto che si chiami Restituita. Comunque, da quello che avevo letto da piu fonti, adesso non ricordo quali, in pratica il latino che si studia al liceo, sarebbe quello tramandato attraverso il Medio Evo, diverso in realtà da quello usato dagli antichi romani. Più o meno è cosi? Che poi non so io mi immagino che il latino sarà stato parlato dai ceti più abbienti ma i poveracci magari parlavano più qualche specie di dialetto, anche perché non andavano a scuola. Credo almeno....
Then please watch that scene from Tombstone, in which Johnny Ringo & Doc Holliday speak Latin.
For people who don't have a surplus of food, some of those barbarian lads are looking kinda thicc.
So that's where the food went
There are other reasons why people can get fat
@@drogadepc please elaborate on the ways people can get fat without consuming calories.
@jean krus "That time period", what do you mean "that time period"? It wasn't uncommon for someone of higher status or porgressed age to be rather obese. He isn't a fighter, but a leading figure, like an elder. Which means hes got plenty to eat, but no serious exercise, nor is he growing, to chancel out his nutrition and energy intake. They aren't poor, you know? They just don't have any luxury products ( obviously ) but they still produce more food each year, then they can consume. The reason why some of them are thin/fit is because they are fighters and train, hunt, work everyday.
@@Drikkerbadevand Everybody in that time would have a dad bod and more so a bigger belly around harvest season.
As they still would need a good bodyfat content to go through winter.
As what people fail to realize going through winter isnt just the winter itself, but until next growing season.
e.g for around 4-6 months nothing really of value growths around you, so you need both a body grown reserver and actuall pereserved food stuff.
Also these men, even the fighters and hunters do lots of manual labor and need/want a good meal every day just for the sake of moral.
love how the eaglebearer is just low key wearing a FUCKING TIGER PELT. i mean the audacity of that. not just wearing a skin thousands of miles from where it was hunted... not just wearing the pelt of a beast that could easily kill a man... but both of those things, together. roman power at its prime was something else.
In those days there were still Caspian tigers in Anatolia Province, modern Turkey, and northern Iran. Still a couple of thousand miles from Rome, but not as far as they'd have to go today.
@@dalegreer3095 Yeah, and majority of modern turkey was part of Rome, so it was technically "domestic" beast. It actually went extinct only few hundred years ago. Lions was in Greece and Iberia on the first century AD but they were all killed in the games. Propably Italian peninsula had lions too in Roman era but there is no proof.
@@dalegreer3095 Bro, do you have any idea how far away inland Turkey is from Rome? The fastest mode of transport was riding horseback, but most people couldn't do that. By foot you can travel about 48km per day with good weather. Basically you need to travel about 50 days to go from Rome to inland Turkey.
@@verward OP was talking about "thousands of miles". Is inland Turkey thousands of miles from Rome? All I'm saying is, they didn't have to go to Sumatra or even India to get those pelts.
Roman culture was disgusting. And USA, from the same mold, is not far from its own collapse due to nonstop wars, debt, and corruption.
As a Romanian i understood “Futute” 😂😂
well you are a roman
Took me by surprise 😅
Sanctae = Santa Urbe = Urbe (Ciudad) Senator = Senador all those words can be understandable in Spanish.
In Italian we also have "fottuto" (singular) or "fottuti" (plural) :)
As a Portuguese speaker, I can relate 😂
I assumed that the spoken Latin would have been Church Latin but I was pleasantly surprised to hear something approximating Classical Latin!
Yes, ancient Latin was not really close to ecclesiastical Latin. The C's were hard K's and the V's were W's. Caesar was not "sees her" but "kaiser" (hence the origin of the German word).
@@whiteknightcat dont get why all of the world call them "ceasars" while they ve been called "augustus" by romans
@@mikeangelo2886 The emperors carried multiple honorifics. Look especially at the coins of the time. Without any seeming pattern you'll see various combinations of the abbreviations for "Caesar", "Imperator", "Divo", "Princeps", or "Augustus". The titles were granted by the Senate but not all emperors accepted them. Tiberius, for example, refused the titles of Pater Patriae, Imperator, and Augustus. The word "Caesar" though seems to have been the most commonly accepted title and they have been known as "the caesars" since then.
@@whiteknightcat here in Italy, when we study Latin at school we use a different pronunciation of the ecclesiastical Latin, for example we read Caesar "Chēsar" (Ch like "chips")
@@Leo-vo1xt Metatron actually covers this in another video on this series.
Quality of his Latin is "INCREDIBILIS"
We got a Cent Main over here...
ETIAM
Roman is happy to see other for honor players in this video but then is sad again after roman remembers he hasn't seen his kids in over 4 years
ETIAM!!!!!
PUGNA NON PERFECTA EST!!!
From a filmmakers point of view, here´s a detail for non-German speaking audience: While you can´t understand the Roman either , the German is today´s language. This is a detail not to be noted if you depend on the English subtitles, but automatically puts you in the perspective of the village people as a viewer. It would work too, if they were dubbed in your language, e.g. English.
so unnecessary comment
@@aliveli-hq6zk this is unnecessary
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@@aliveli-hq6zk i mean yeah it feels like a very obvious thing to point out but there are so many comments complaining about how the germans aren't speaking old german that i think some people are really just that thick and need this spelled out for them
if this is the soundtrack for German speaking areas, it makes sense.
But if this is the original English soundtrack, then the Modern German makes no sense at all.
Nice clip! I loved to hear Latin and German ❤ And of course, I loved the costumes ❤
It transported me instantly 2000 years back.
I like how the Roman demands for the German to "say that again", even though he doesn't know what he said. Cool little detail right there
Very good point! You're the only one saying so! I wonder if the Roman knew what was being said and to make a point of utter dominion still spoke in Latin, that it was a psychological tactic of oppression. From what I've learned the Romans were horribly brutal as they expanded their republic then later called it an empire.
Not true.
If you have lived abroad awhile you start to understand what locals mean even if you do not have full fluency.
Have to live in a place a bit before that kicks in.
He said it in a defying manner. Expressions traverse language barriers.
He's been through exactly the same scene before with many other villages: he doesn't have to speak their language to know what he said.
@@mwj5368 Not really though roman rule only went bad in places that were staunchly anti-roman or really cherished their independence kinda like with the mongols, you just have to look at gaul or iberia to understand that if their was cooperation the regime was very beneficial to the conquerded.
You can't deny. Those Romans had some badass helmets.
They also doubled as shoebrush.
Factoid: These Roman helmets with wide protections on the cheeks were actually copied from some Gallic helmets.
@@krips22 yes
They stole it from Greeks
The Roman Generals & Emporers & High Ranking Officers where all looking like Demi God's 😂🤷🏾♂️. Generals & Emporers wore lion mains as capes. & Their armor look like it was designed by Versace & they're Riding with The Calvery🏇 Red Mohawks.
Great, now I know the Romans talked like New York City mobsters. 😏
since both languages are attributable to the Italian peninsula...
TIHI LOL
@@kailianglf2 lol
"Issa our empire, so we do whatta we like! Capisce?"
most latin langages (french, spanish, portugese, etc) derive from vulgar latin.
I've watched this series once but this scene at least a thousand time. It just has that authentic feeling to it.
What I love most about this scene is that it’s exactly how I always imagined the Romans to be in this period!
Very arrogant, obnoxious, confident and intimidating. Not fearing anybody.
@Andrea Porte also arrogance.
@Andrea Porte The dictionary definition of arrogance does not include any qualifier about the presumption of superiority being baseless. It's weird that you apologize for your English while simultaneously (erroneously) correcting people's English.
Andrea Porte
You’re arguing semantics to the point that it’s autistic. They are/were arrogant. No one will ever validate your petty argument.
I would have loved to smash some Roman legionaries in those times
But it's probably not how they were in this instances . Many tribal leaders willingly aligned with Rome and their leaders got a lot of benefits from it .
Guys, chill. This show was made in Germany and they want to make the barbarians more "close" to the viewer, that's why they use modern German, and at the same time they want to alienate the Roman's by having them talk in another language most people don't know. It's not about everything being historically accurate, but to make the viewer have more warmth and to sympathize with the barbarians and to portray the Roman's as what they are, an invading imposing force.
modern geman is the obvious choice or else the whole show would've had to be watched with subtitles regardless of the viewer. It may would've been more historical, but much effort would've been needed and it would've been less entertaining. The other question is whether it is even possible to reconstruct germanic languages from that time.
Roman's just trying to civilize the savages. Then Arminius the snake happened but we at least still have Germanicus.
Your literally justifying propaganda lmao
Funny how they try to portray Romans as the bad guys but most of the audience sympathises with them anyway.
@@thechosenone1533 yeah because gauls went on to become nazi's
We want more movies or tv series like this spoken in LATIN.
Latin is so fucking amazing 😎