Pro's. Nice demonstration. Serves to show Western Fencing as IT IS - a martial art. Not hacking and slashing with armour on, without skill whatsoever. You can see proper footwork here, attack by drawing, very often deflecting rather then simply blocking with sheer force. This is real martial art, not a child's game.
@Stefano Dawg in these days it is hard to say what filtered in which direction as modern day HEMA practitioners often start with kali/escrima before they grab steel. The basic training drills upper and lower gates from escrima are very valuable for HEMA practitioners too. --- Also, as i understood the spanish have not taught the philipinas to fight - they rather have forbidden them to practise martial arts as they were subduing the natives - like good spaniards did evrywhere. There was no point in teaching them how to mount a resistance. Makes sense? So it is unlikely they go that art from the spanish. The story goes that because swordplay was forbidden, the philipinos swapped the machete type swords and knifes for sticks and continued training swordplay that way. And that is why we use sticks in kali-escrima training today. But the techniques are just camourflaged blade techniques.
+Unusual Stranger . Well it's probably also that they can't just teach the actors proper longsword techniques. It's easier to just make big over-swings and "cool" spinning movements and whatnot, they don't want to hire an actual historical martial arts teacher to teach the actors to use a sword. I guess Hollywood combat sells better anyway, if they found out that realistic historical combat gets them a lot more money, they'd probably do that instead.
Thiago Monteiro Yeah well, "if it works, don't fix it", the normal Hollywood fighting style works for them and gets them money so why try anything new... They really don't care about historical accuracy or realism either.
The thing is martial arts teachers teach people to hit their opponent whilst in film they still have to actually entertain and in doing so they forget about the whole realism thing. It would be good if they choreographed a fight and then asked a real swordsman what they thought of it and improved from there.
@@RenMagnum4057 With longsword, there's usually two main traditions taught: 1. The German Liechtenauer tradition, which is a tradition started by Johannes Liechtenauer in the late 14th century. 2. The Italian Fiore tradition, which is a tradition started by Fiore dei Liberi in the early 15th century. The reason is that they are the most complete systems of longsword. Of course both Liechtenauer and Fiore covered other weapons, and the two schools of thought are very similar, so much so that you can just call it different interpretations on how to use the longsword. The main difference between the two is the mindset: 1. In the Fiore tradition, you first stop the opponent's attack, then kill him. 2. In the Liechtenauer tradition, you stop the opponent's attack by killing him.
In case anyone was curious, here is my best effort at figuring out the techniques they're demonstrating: In order (often multiple exchanges are the same thing, so this is not "per exchange"): Variation on Schnappen? (this is explicitly mentioned in Fiore, too) Zwerchau (which appear to be interspersed with some more deflection & cuts) Absetzen More Schnappen; these are somewhat similar to Fiore's colpo di villano More Absetzen Nachraißen Various Half-swording techniques Presumably Durchwechseln, followed by some Schnappen-like counter Mutieren (upside down, as it were) Duplieren (in theory. I think) These are kind of like Absetzen, but I'm not sure what they are Krumphau Blade grab (found in Fiore) Sword wrap (found in Fiore) More Schnappen-like exchanges Pommel strike (from Fiore) This looks like something out of Meyer, but I'm not familiar with it. Might be one interpretation of fencing from Fiore's posta di donna More Nachraißen Disarms involving the half-sword (some of which could result in throws) Abschneiden Note that these are all best guesses based on approximation, and they probably don't even use many of these interpretations any more. Please let me know if you feel I've missed anything or made any mistakes!
I must have watched this a hundred times, no doubt. These guys are so badass they don't even bother with the masks and gloves, but very clearly they are coming within inches of putting each other's eyes out.
Next time someone makes a movie in the medieval times, they should consider calling up some experts to make the fights seem somewhat realistic instead of these RPG-fights in which the one who hacks and slashes the most wins. Or of course, the one who makes the most dramatic turns and hops.
I completely agree with this post but I have to say that there are several films with realistic historical fencing techniques. A prime example would be the last samurai.
boyd willemsen it would be risky if hollywood tries to make a realistic european battles because the techniques is just dangerous to looks so realistic.even with a prop armor..knights could be hurt because in reality,they would ratter use a blunt force against armoured opponents or knights and there's a high chance that they would dizzy,unconscious,or even vomit.perhaps there would be another way to film a realistic medieval combat on screen..but it wont be so real or fast as we expected and i agree with dramatizing bullshit.they can put the "drama" in other way like before the battle,or after the battle
+TerrionGaming I'm in total agreement. As a filmmaker myself I'm very interested in trying to implement realistic sword fighting into a movie one day. It is just so fluid and different than mainstream hack and slash. This looks so much more efficient and dangerous.
@@MNGN101 Sword fights BASED on historical techniques can still be dramatised and drawn out. They don't need to end brutally quickly unless this serves the story. The difference is that genuine skill is involved and audiences are treated to a bit of history.
@@GonzoTehGreat Except these techniques completely contradict the idea of a "drawn out" duel. I'm glad the show-runners aren't wasting their time trying to find ways to apply techniques that were meant for fast, 1 on 1 duels to drawn out fights scenes with multiple people, all the while trying to convey emotion and tell a story.
@@MNGN101 These techniques are being demonstrated. That's why they typically demonstrate only a single cut, followed by a parry and a counter. An actual duel wouldn't necessarily be that short, especially if the combatants were of similar skill. You might be happy to accept poor, fantastical, Hollywood style, fight choreography but some of us would prefer them to try and bit harder and aim a little higher.
I'm going to join the chorus here... this is a beautiful display of swordsmanship. As someone with no European fencing experience, I found the way the entire sword was used, along with grappling and entrapment techniques eyeopening and heart-racing. Really great stuff!
HIYAH! HIYAH! I love this. Why can't movie duels portray this at least somewhat? God I love the longsword grappling moves. That could be made to look really cool in movie fights, while also being somewhat realistic
The real OGs remember the 4:3 aspect ratio version This video was probably the video that made me aware that HEMA existed. When I first saw the video I thought the costumes were kinda weird, now I understand why the costumes look the way they do. When I first saw this video, my swords were mostly wooden. Now I own steel swords, and a little bit of armor. I was interested in swords and stuff, but mostly because of Zelda, LotR, and Final Fantasy. Now I am writing my own fantasy RPG that is more low fantasy informed by this sort of style. I am grateful that this video exists still, I still come back to it from time to time. Thank you.
@@czblax888 Well I hate to say it, but they are wearing a style I don't know very well. I know it's German, probably 1400s, just not sure where in germany, or anything more specific than that But that exact curiosity is what got me started, do research on the sources they study, look into the sources from the time period, and see what you can find. There are definitely fashion historians, and they will have the information about what was in style where and when, it's actually pretty fascinating.
It all comes down to the fighters... dont forget that what you see there is choreographed and 'slowed down' for the viewers. It all depends on how agressive each of the combatants are. Naturally people will usually fight more agressive in training fights with blunt swords than they would do in a real fight with sharp swords, at least you'd think so. Of course it all depends on the situation. You can have fights were a skilled and determined, agressive swordsman can take down an enemy in a blink of an eye (though unlikely because while leathal most swordstrokes are not immediatly fatal), while some could go on for minutes with the opponents circling around each other, looking for a gap in the enemies defence or thinking how to approach him, all while constantly changing guards and trying to intimidate the enemy or to encourage him to attack you when you think you have a chance of countering his blow. That's at least the theory, in truth you hardly have time to actively think about it. So yeah so some fights could be over really fast, while others can last very long... all comes down to how eager the fighters are to gamble with their lives.
MajorCoolD Sounds about right. What you wouldn't ever really see is a Hollywood/stage fight bashfest. But a circling standoff with occasional pokes? Probably quite common.
Natasel But your muscles lose their power, you struggle to think straight and you start to suffocate, easy kill with every minute/second depending on the loss rate.
***** Not many of us have been in sword fights against a man who has human blood on his blade and every intention of adding ours to the mix. I think many would turn into frightened women!
Just closing my eyes and listening to that ring is so satisfying by itself. Then open them and see fluid but easy to follow attacks and it's like icing on a cake.
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only that the opponent won't simply stop when struck down once ( depending on impact zone of course ) but may still be able to deliver a fatal blow before he dies that's why when striking him/her down you should retreat quickly or try to block his sword as well. Allways be catious.
It's crazy how a few successful parries completely exposes your opponent. A few swings and you could be dead. I especially like the move the guy in black does to the jester guy near the end where he in pales him with his own sword. It happens in a split second. Blink and you'll miss it 👍
Astounding!! Very, very impressive, and thrilling to watch. So basically any swordsman thoroughly trained and skilled in that particular, very German flavored and intricate style of sword play would be able to expertly parry and kill this savage, blood-crazed, powerful, fearsome, hard charging, claymore slashing, chain mail clad Scottish Highlander or Irish Gallowglass?? For I would give my left nut to witness and enjoy such a spectacle, that of two Renaissance Era warriors going at it, one Celtic and the other German, while armed with their respective, customary weapons and each engaging the other in their own fighting style. Ferocious!!
Taylor Ahern Well, the highlanders were actually very skilled fighters, as were the Irish. The whole blood-crazed savage thing was a psyhcological sort of thing, and if it didn't scare you away, they would engage you logically in combat.
Exactly!! And living here in the Boston area has this way of inflating it that much more. The biggest Irish population in the country (percentage wise!).
***** There's a difference between the Scottish noblemen, who were often aligned with England, and the Highlander clans who lived in the country side. The nobles were up to date on arms and armor, whereas the clans were often too poor to afford better equipment. Why do you think that most of their income came from banditry?
It's been a long time since I checked, and I don't have my library anymore, but I'm pretty sure the German fechtbooks that survive show a lot of this "rough and tumble" style of fighting... punching, kicking, pommel strikes, etc. It's not just Fiore! :)
I wonder if sir belamy from game of thrones fights like this since in the book it always mentions that he beats his opponents in one parry-while striking at the same time
Rusty, You don't have to move to Germany, you can just go to Eugene or Vancouver B.C. for the weekend. Sean Hayes operates Northwest Fencing Academy in Eugene. He is as good as any HEMA instructor in the world. Armizare is a complete martial art and is as fun as it looks. In Vancouver is Academie Duello. It is a world class HEMA school. I train there, and I have never had so much fun in my life.
This is an historical reanactment, or as close as they can get. They also aren't fighting, but demonstrating techniques from the 15th century with a 15th century weapon.
this video shows: a sword isnt just a blade, you dont allways need to block the attack you can doge the strike and strike back and the most important: longswords can be used precise and quick
I see a lot of people complaining about people not using these techniques, and I have to say that in the Lord of the rings all people fighting with historical weapons should have used historical fencing techniques with example on this video. Except me because we can all I see how well I fucked people up with that mace.
There is a different set of moves for dealing with armor, since a long sword can't pierce plate you either knock the guy down and slip between the joints, grab the blade use your hilt as a warhammer. Hold the sword by the lower half of the blade and use it as a piercing weapon etc...
I can think of one example of an armor influencing fashion. Henry VIII was to have a tournament duel with the king of France. They weren't able to get his armor done in time so they made a kind of steel skirt that could be used on horse of foot. Later there were examples of men's clothing that replicated the steel skirt in cloth. I saw a man at a society for creative anachronism wearing the civilian version.
It looks like a combination. The high guard and circular strike patterns are probably from a German school. The grappling and pommel striking look like Fiore. However, there are only so many ways you can sword fight so they could all come from the same source.
It would depend on the skill and equipment involved. For example, a good many of the above "hits" would be too light to penetrate mail, and if both fencers were good enough the duel could stretch on until one duelist found enough of an advantage to try a precision stroke on an undefended spot. What is more exaggerated than the length in movies is the large, sweeping strike: Takes too much time, opens you up for a stab, slashes ineffective against armor, etc.
Maybe I am wrong, but many of the movements displayed in the video are supposed to be used in an unarmoured combat. In my opinion, mail is not important here. I think that is the fear of dying/being injuried/losing honour what slows things down:you have to evaluate your oponent and be careful at attacking because if you fail, you are dead
I've been really looking into two-handed principles lately Watching this a 1/4 speed I'm starting to understand how and why the two-hander with "parry hooks" is considered more advanced - not for its size, but if the principles remain similar, its the next level up - like executing parry-crooked cuts from the "parry hooks" instead of the main guard. I even wonder if the "parry hooks" *were* the main guard in many situations against a sword.
What are the two models of weapons being used in this video? As in links to/names of the modern businesses that make/sell them (as opposed to historical names and classifications)?
To all the people talking about it: Hollywood needs to put on a show and fill space. Sword fighting in movies is supposed to be dramatic and drawn out. You don't want to see 89 minutes of story line and then a 5 second sword fight to finish a movie. You want to have build up and then a battle with dodging and running and jumping on walls and sliding down stairs on shields. It's fun. It's more fun. That's what movies have to do.
You could use real-world swordplay in scenes where the hero is fighting his way thru the bad guy's henchmen. For those moments, you'd want to show the hero taking out the mooks quickly. The second he has to go up against the main villain, though, you'd have to default to stage combat because you want and need the sense that the bad guy is the most dangerous of the whole bunch. It can't be a fast and easy win for the hero in the home stretch. But earlier on, when he's mowing down henchmen right and left? Real-world swordplay would be perfect for those scenes.
Didn't these guys also do a video with halberds? I know that five or six years ago I saw a video of people in historical costume showing off actual halberd locks and strikes, but I've spent all evening searching to no avail. Was it deleted?
Pro's. Nice demonstration. Serves to show Western Fencing as IT IS - a martial art. Not hacking and slashing with armour on, without skill whatsoever. You can see proper footwork here, attack by drawing, very often deflecting rather then simply blocking with sheer force. This is real martial art, not a child's game.
@Stefano Dawg in these days it is hard to say what filtered in which direction as modern day HEMA practitioners often start with kali/escrima before they grab steel.
The basic training drills upper and lower gates from escrima are very valuable for HEMA practitioners too.
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Also, as i understood the spanish have not taught the philipinas to fight - they rather have forbidden them to practise martial arts as they were subduing the natives - like good spaniards did evrywhere. There was no point in teaching them how to mount a resistance. Makes sense?
So it is unlikely they go that art from the spanish.
The story goes that because swordplay was forbidden, the philipinos swapped the machete type swords and knifes for sticks and continued training swordplay that way.
And that is why we use sticks in kali-escrima training today. But the techniques are just camourflaged blade techniques.
Even when they did fight with armor on they still used proper technique, unlike m1 global.
If I saw a Hollywood movie with those proper techniques and those proper clothes, I would be so happy.
Me too .Sadly , they think the rules from lightsaber combat apply here .
+Unusual Stranger .
Well it's probably also that they can't just teach the actors proper longsword techniques. It's easier to just make big over-swings and "cool" spinning movements and whatnot, they don't want to hire an actual historical martial arts teacher to teach the actors to use a sword.
I guess Hollywood combat sells better anyway, if they found out that realistic historical combat gets them a lot more money, they'd probably do that instead.
***** That's the thing: we don't actually know if realistic combat would sell, because Hollywood never tries it.
Thiago Monteiro
Yeah well, "if it works, don't fix it", the normal Hollywood fighting style works for them and gets them money so why try anything new... They really don't care about historical accuracy or realism either.
The thing is martial arts teachers teach people to hit their opponent whilst in film they still have to actually entertain and in doing so they forget about the whole realism thing. It would be good if they choreographed a fight and then asked a real swordsman what they thought of it and improved from there.
I hate it when movies show longswords as slow brutes with no skill just strength
***** not really...
dexter432432
+matt mc
Hopefully through practice practitioners realize the manuals are just rough guidelines.
Well im most people's mind there is no room for europeans long swords as the Asian martial arts cult is so strong
@@Ghastly_Grinner yeah, these weebs think katana can penetrate ANYTHING lol
The music is amazing.
Germanic swordsmanship is beautiful simplicity, inspired by war, refined by Hans Talhoffer.
Needless to say I hit "subscribe", great video.
Its germanic? I thought it was English.
@@RenMagnum4057 With longsword, there's usually two main traditions taught:
1. The German Liechtenauer tradition, which is a tradition started by Johannes Liechtenauer in the late 14th century.
2. The Italian Fiore tradition, which is a tradition started by Fiore dei Liberi in the early 15th century.
The reason is that they are the most complete systems of longsword. Of course both Liechtenauer and Fiore covered other weapons, and the two schools of thought are very similar, so much so that you can just call it different interpretations on how to use the longsword.
The main difference between the two is the mindset:
1. In the Fiore tradition, you first stop the opponent's attack, then kill him.
2. In the Liechtenauer tradition, you stop the opponent's attack by killing him.
@@TheCrimsonIdol987 Cool. Thanks for the info
@@RenMagnum4057 No problem mate! Cheers!
In case anyone was curious, here is my best effort at figuring out the techniques they're demonstrating:
In order (often multiple exchanges are the same thing, so this is not "per exchange"):
Variation on Schnappen? (this is explicitly mentioned in Fiore, too)
Zwerchau (which appear to be interspersed with some more deflection & cuts)
Absetzen
More Schnappen; these are somewhat similar to Fiore's colpo di villano
More Absetzen
Nachraißen
Various Half-swording techniques
Presumably Durchwechseln, followed by some Schnappen-like counter
Mutieren (upside down, as it were)
Duplieren (in theory. I think)
These are kind of like Absetzen, but I'm not sure what they are
Krumphau
Blade grab (found in Fiore)
Sword wrap (found in Fiore)
More Schnappen-like exchanges
Pommel strike (from Fiore)
This looks like something out of Meyer, but I'm not familiar with it. Might be one interpretation of fencing from Fiore's posta di donna
More Nachraißen
Disarms involving the half-sword (some of which could result in throws)
Abschneiden
Note that these are all best guesses based on approximation, and they probably don't even use many of these interpretations any more. Please let me know if you feel I've missed anything or made any mistakes!
You again
Again?
***** We have talked before.
You are awesome, friend.
My favorite video on UA-cam. Really an immaculate display of swordplay here.
Kristopher M
If you like this, then you'll love Longsword by Adorea Olomouc. It's the best damn swordfighting video I've ever seen.
I must have watched this a hundred times, no doubt. These guys are so badass they don't even bother with the masks and gloves, but very clearly they are coming within inches of putting each other's eyes out.
Agreed. This video is a treasure, real inspiration.
Video needs to be on a 10 hour loop.
Next time someone makes a movie in the medieval times, they should consider calling up some experts to make the fights seem somewhat realistic instead of these RPG-fights in which the one who hacks and slashes the most wins. Or of course, the one who makes the most dramatic turns and hops.
Watch lindybeige, he does a good job making fun of movies that do that shit lol
I completely agree with this post but I have to say that there are several films with realistic historical fencing techniques. A prime example would be the last samurai.
boyd willemsen see some polish medieval movies for example kszyzatsie ( I dont know how to spell it)
boyd willemsen it would be risky if hollywood tries to make a realistic european battles because the techniques is just dangerous to looks so realistic.even with a prop armor..knights could be hurt because in reality,they would ratter use a blunt force against armoured opponents or knights and there's a high chance that they would dizzy,unconscious,or even vomit.perhaps there would be another way to film a realistic medieval combat on screen..but it wont be so real or fast as we expected
and i agree with dramatizing bullshit.they can put the "drama" in other way like before the battle,or after the battle
+TerrionGaming I'm in total agreement. As a filmmaker myself I'm very interested in trying to implement realistic sword fighting into a movie one day. It is just so fluid and different than mainstream hack and slash. This looks so much more efficient and dangerous.
I come back and watch this like 3 times a month. That last technique is so smooth
I love seeing half swording techniques truly beautiful!
where were these heroes when they were fucking up the swordfighting in Game of Thrones... This would have been great!
+Even Mehl Amundsen Yes, I would have loved to have the duel with Arthur Dayne end in 6 seconds.
@@MNGN101 Sword fights BASED on historical techniques can still be dramatised and drawn out. They don't need to end brutally quickly unless this serves the story. The difference is that genuine skill is involved and audiences are treated to a bit of history.
@@GonzoTehGreat Except these techniques completely contradict the idea of a "drawn out" duel. I'm glad the show-runners aren't wasting their time trying to find ways to apply techniques that were meant for fast, 1 on 1 duels to drawn out fights scenes with multiple people, all the while trying to convey emotion and tell a story.
@@MNGN101 These techniques are being demonstrated. That's why they typically demonstrate only a single cut, followed by a parry and a counter. An actual duel wouldn't necessarily be that short, especially if the combatants were of similar skill.
You might be happy to accept poor, fantastical, Hollywood style, fight choreography but some of us would prefer them to try and bit harder and aim a little higher.
I'm going to join the chorus here... this is a beautiful display of swordsmanship. As someone with no European fencing experience, I found the way the entire sword was used, along with grappling and entrapment techniques eyeopening and heart-racing. Really great stuff!
HIYAH! HIYAH!
I love this. Why can't movie duels portray this at least somewhat?
God I love the longsword grappling moves. That could be made to look really cool in movie fights, while also being somewhat realistic
All I could think of as a gamer and hobbyist game designer was how it would be possible to implement these moves in a video game.
Panos Gk the real question is why hasn't this happened yet! xD
sootheater Well Kingdom Come: Deliverance is trying to do it but they still need to come a long way.
sootheater
Because Hollywood.
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Panos Gk Long way you say? They are already as far as any game has ever been and their combat I think is already complete.
Jirka Dusek You can win by mashing the attack button untill you run out of stamina and then retreating to replenish it. It still needs tweaking...
We need more action-packed movies that take place in Medieval Europe, featuring people fighting with long swords like they're master swordsmen.
The real OGs remember the 4:3 aspect ratio version
This video was probably the video that made me aware that HEMA existed.
When I first saw the video I thought the costumes were kinda weird, now I understand why the costumes look the way they do.
When I first saw this video, my swords were mostly wooden. Now I own steel swords, and a little bit of armor.
I was interested in swords and stuff, but mostly because of Zelda, LotR, and Final Fantasy. Now I am writing my own fantasy RPG that is more low fantasy informed by this sort of style.
I am grateful that this video exists still, I still come back to it from time to time. Thank you.
Could u tell more about the clothing they are wearing it looks interesting
@@czblax888 Well I hate to say it, but they are wearing a style I don't know very well. I know it's German, probably 1400s, just not sure where in germany, or anything more specific than that
But that exact curiosity is what got me started, do research on the sources they study, look into the sources from the time period, and see what you can find. There are definitely fashion historians, and they will have the information about what was in style where and when, it's actually pretty fascinating.
@@knightshousegames thanks a lot anyways, I’ll definitely do some research
Imagine Game of Thrones had this accurate sword fight
Wow, 1v1 duels must have been really quickly over and done with.
It all comes down to the fighters... dont forget that what you see there is choreographed and 'slowed down' for the viewers. It all depends on how agressive each of the combatants are. Naturally people will usually fight more agressive in training fights with blunt swords than they would do in a real fight with sharp swords, at least you'd think so. Of course it all depends on the situation. You can have fights were a skilled and determined, agressive swordsman can take down an enemy in a blink of an eye (though unlikely because while leathal most swordstrokes are not immediatly fatal), while some could go on for minutes with the opponents circling around each other, looking for a gap in the enemies defence or thinking how to approach him, all while constantly changing guards and trying to intimidate the enemy or to encourage him to attack you when you think you have a chance of countering his blow. That's at least the theory, in truth you hardly have time to actively think about it. So yeah so some fights could be over really fast, while others can last very long... all comes down to how eager the fighters are to gamble with their lives.
MajorCoolD
Sounds about right. What you wouldn't ever really see is a Hollywood/stage fight bashfest. But a circling standoff with occasional pokes? Probably quite common.
***** Forgive me grand master but my entire life I have assumed that being intimidated and being rational are two different things.
Natasel But your muscles lose their power, you struggle to think straight and you start to suffocate, easy kill with every minute/second depending on the loss rate.
***** Not many of us have been in sword fights against a man who has human blood on his blade and every intention of adding ours to the mix. I think many would turn into frightened women!
This video is perfect, got me hooked back in 2008, hwen i found it. Keep good work guys.
Omg 4 years. Thank you 🙏 beautiful
..and that why we love the long sword
Just closing my eyes and listening to that ring is so satisfying by itself. Then open them and see fluid but easy to follow attacks and it's like icing on a cake.
I would love to see some more stuff from you guys.
Looks awesome and it's interesting to see how they fought back then.
Wow, this was amazing, I also love how well the sword fighting is matched with the music, great video
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Wish these guys would do more videos.
Anyone else love the sound those sword make when coming into contact with eachother
One of my favorite fencing videos!
I can't stop watching this video. Real European sword fighting is way more exciting than anything Hollywood can cook up.
only that the opponent won't simply stop when struck down once ( depending on impact zone of course ) but may still be able to deliver a fatal blow before he dies that's why when striking him/her down you should retreat quickly or try to block his sword as well. Allways be catious.
LKVideos that's exactly how HEMA works, after the kill blow, you must counter the opponent's next blow for your point to be valid.
I keep coming back to see this video :)
Magnifique. Je vais venir vous voir à votre école.
Merci
OMG that steel sound .... Great vid !
love the music!!
It's crazy how a few successful parries completely exposes your opponent. A few swings and you could be dead. I especially like the move the guy in black does to the jester guy near the end where he in pales him with his own sword. It happens in a split second. Blink and you'll miss it 👍
Awesome techniques and videos.
Excelente maestros
Those overhooks at 1:25 are awesome.
Astounding!! Very, very impressive, and thrilling to watch.
So basically any swordsman thoroughly trained and skilled in that particular, very German flavored and intricate style of sword play would be able to expertly parry and kill this savage, blood-crazed, powerful, fearsome, hard charging, claymore slashing, chain mail clad Scottish Highlander or Irish Gallowglass??
For I would give my left nut to witness and enjoy such a spectacle, that of two Renaissance Era warriors going at it, one Celtic and the other German, while armed with their respective, customary weapons and each engaging the other in their own fighting style. Ferocious!!
Taylor Ahern Well, the highlanders were actually very skilled fighters, as were the Irish. The whole blood-crazed savage thing was a psyhcological sort of thing, and if it didn't scare you away, they would engage you logically in combat.
Fascinating. Yes, the Irish and Scots were as skilled as they were fearsome, maybe the best fighters in Western Europe for centuries.
Could be, or it might be me being too proud of my Irish heritage. But since when can you be too proud of being Irish right?
Exactly!! And living here in the Boston area has this way of inflating it that much more. The biggest Irish population in the country (percentage wise!).
***** There's a difference between the Scottish noblemen, who were often aligned with England, and the Highlander clans who lived in the country side. The nobles were up to date on arms and armor, whereas the clans were often too poor to afford better equipment. Why do you think that most of their income came from banditry?
Epic. Brings back some nostalgia.
Damn, that's crazy. Amazing skill swordmen had to possess...
Gotta love that 'ting' sound
2021 and still amazingly awesome :D
Those duck-under parries, though... I had no idea there were techniques like that in HEMA. They’re straight 🔥
2:05 that face is saying "i guess i'm gonna die"
It's been a long time since I checked, and I don't have my library anymore, but I'm pretty sure the German fechtbooks that survive show a lot of this "rough and tumble" style of fighting... punching, kicking, pommel strikes, etc. It's not just Fiore! :)
Still an awesome video!
one of the best HF video ive seen in my life
I wonder if sir belamy from game of thrones fights like this since in the book it always mentions that he beats his opponents in one parry-while striking at the same time
Still watching this in 2018
Rusty,
You don't have to move to Germany, you can just go to Eugene or Vancouver B.C. for the weekend. Sean Hayes operates Northwest Fencing Academy in Eugene. He is as good as any HEMA instructor in the world. Armizare is a complete martial art and is as fun as it looks. In Vancouver is Academie Duello. It is a world class HEMA school. I train there, and I have never had so much fun in my life.
Dieses Jahr legt ihr ja richtig los ;-)
Schon zwei Videos. Weiter so!
Love this video and also this is the most gangster piano track I've ever heard
This is an historical reanactment, or as close as they can get. They also aren't fighting, but demonstrating techniques from the 15th century with a 15th century weapon.
Mesmerising!
old but gold!
Ihr benutzt ja an manchen Stellen Fechtfedern... das ist mir vorher nie aufgefallen! :)
..einfach ein großartiges video!!
this video shows: a sword isnt just a blade, you dont allways need to block the attack you can doge the strike and strike back and the most important: longswords can be used precise and quick
I see a lot of people complaining about people not using these techniques, and I have to say that in the Lord of the rings all people fighting with historical weapons should have used historical fencing techniques with example on this video. Except me because we can all I see how well I fucked people up with that mace.
i'd love to make videos like this with someone someday, this is so cool!!!!
Please, upload more videos! Your technique is awesome!
This is an excellent exposition.
There is a different set of moves for dealing with armor, since a long sword can't pierce plate you either knock the guy down and slip between the joints, grab the blade use your hilt as a warhammer. Hold the sword by the lower half of the blade and use it as a piercing weapon etc...
I can think of one example of an armor influencing fashion. Henry VIII was to have a tournament duel with the king of France. They weren't able to get his armor done in time so they made a kind of steel skirt that could be used on horse of foot. Later there were examples of men's clothing that replicated the steel skirt in cloth. I saw a man at a society for creative anachronism wearing the civilian version.
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It looks like a combination. The high guard and circular strike patterns are probably from a German school. The grappling and pommel striking look like Fiore. However, there are only so many ways you can sword fight so they could all come from the same source.
Poetry in motion.
Thank you
Woo hoo! Good job! Looks like really solid practical moves!
It would depend on the skill and equipment involved. For example, a good many of the above "hits" would be too light to penetrate mail, and if both fencers were good enough the duel could stretch on until one duelist found enough of an advantage to try a precision stroke on an undefended spot.
What is more exaggerated than the length in movies is the large, sweeping strike: Takes too much time, opens you up for a stab, slashes ineffective against armor, etc.
Nice work! I like it :D I wanna see a new video soon ;)
Good work, good style. By the way, what swords did you use in this video?
Wish there were more of these in the US. Even ARMA is pretty small.
What music is that? It sounds familiar
Maybe I am wrong, but many of the movements displayed in the video are supposed to be used in an unarmoured combat. In my opinion, mail is not important here. I think that is the fear of dying/being injuried/losing honour what slows things down:you have to evaluate your oponent and be careful at attacking because if you fail, you are dead
I wish these men did the moves for kingdom come deliverance
Are you going to have some seminars in Dresden, or better, some czech town?
In medieval battles. How many exchanges would be considered normal before a person wins in a dual like situation.
besteht die möglichkeit, mehr über entwaffnungstechniken zu sehen?
I've been really looking into two-handed principles lately
Watching this a 1/4 speed I'm starting to understand how and why the two-hander with "parry hooks" is considered more advanced - not for its size, but if the principles remain similar, its the next level up - like executing parry-crooked cuts from the "parry hooks" instead of the main guard.
I even wonder if the "parry hooks" *were* the main guard in many situations against a sword.
very impressive, amazing techniques
What are the two models of weapons being used in this video? As in links to/names of the modern businesses that make/sell them (as opposed to historical names and classifications)?
Okay, so the info is on the website: learn-sword-fighting.com/info=21
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Very awesome.
German fighting: No Shield... It's all about Honor....
Красиво!
Can someone tell me what the clothes the guy on the left in 0:06 is wearing are called?
Can anyone tell me where to get clothes like this especially the blue and orange outfit. Thanks.
0:48
Nice stun animation
That was outstanding
B R A V I S S I M O !
Longsword is the sword!
That's Gary Oldman in the black and red long coat.
What name the song?
To all the people talking about it: Hollywood needs to put on a show and fill space. Sword fighting in movies is supposed to be dramatic and drawn out. You don't want to see 89 minutes of story line and then a 5 second sword fight to finish a movie. You want to have build up and then a battle with dodging and running and jumping on walls and sliding down stairs on shields. It's fun. It's more fun. That's what movies have to do.
You could use real-world swordplay in scenes where the hero is fighting his way thru the bad guy's henchmen. For those moments, you'd want to show the hero taking out the mooks quickly. The second he has to go up against the main villain, though, you'd have to default to stage combat because you want and need the sense that the bad guy is the most dangerous of the whole bunch. It can't be a fast and easy win for the hero in the home stretch. But earlier on, when he's mowing down henchmen right and left? Real-world swordplay would be perfect for those scenes.
Beautiful..
Ja, richtig. So kann man diese Schwerter bezeichnen :)
I recognize some of those moves from the kali class I used to train at
You will recognise even more if you look at XV century langes messer techniques: ua-cam.com/video/7UgX7cR7WNw/v-deo.html
Didn't these guys also do a video with halberds? I know that five or six years ago I saw a video of people in historical costume showing off actual halberd locks and strikes, but I've spent all evening searching to no avail. Was it deleted?
I wish all of these where in a sidescroller angle I can use some of this for my game