Raniero Mariotti If i would fight with someone with that blank emotionless expression i probably piss myself while doing it. Heroically, of course :P . You look like "Step off or im going to cut my way through you, no questions asked". Love the video!
On a serious note though those are some lightsaber-ass taps, I don't know why they're going so softly. They seem experienced enough to be able to control their stroke so that they're not in any serious danger from exchanging strikes...
Raniero Mariotti Regnum Bohemiae :) yet high middle ages messer or even longsword is hard to find taken as serious HEMA not scenic choreography ... and my beloved 19th century saber is nowhere to be found so Im fully in comepetent hands of writers of original manuals Henry Angelo and John Musgrave Waite :D very competent indeed :)
L'arte e l'abilità con cui maneggi i tuoi coltelli e le tue spade è favolosa. Non voglio davvero affrontare te o uno spadaccino 500 anni fa. Vorrei riempire più velocemente di quanto potessi pensare.
I just wanted to thank you gentlemen for this most interesting and very clear video about performing adequate parries. I feel it helps me better understand this art and is very inspiring to me! Grazie mille!
I wholeheartedly agree with all the wonderful comments, and would like to put forth my own; I love that fact that the moves are done just a bit slower than most vids. Makes it all so much more clear. Bravo!
this is an incredibly well put together film, and a brilliant piece on messer And it was made in 2013 Modern sport fencing has been more culturally known, and has like, five decent videos on it on this entire site HEMA content beats modern fencing content without a doubt
Please give credit to the singer/player of Non e gran cousa you used in the video: Arany Zoltan Fantastic video otherwise! Good job! Excellent costuming and swordwork.
HOLY CRAP, it looks so effortlessly, but to practionner, it is like 'HOLY SHIT THATS A LOT OF MOVES IN THAT 1 SECOND' mannn such well trained swordsmanship! This is such a gem
The Music is soo Goodd...Luv It.soo much. And the Sword Skills. It is such a shame that Europeans had excellent martial art techniques but no one knows about it in the world except few people. I would definitely love to learn this.
very strong video, one of the best showcases of these techniqes i have yet seen. 2:34 has to be the least practical grip of a sword ever, though. Might happen if you have to draw and have no time to grip properly, but still... I have to try that in todays training :)
I know this comment is three years old, and you have surely had time to practise it ;-) but for the benefice of those wondering years later, that is not a "static" grip - that's a "I have my sword in underarm position and want to launch an unterhau, let's move the left hand to the pommel for extra leverage" kind of dinamic, temporary grip.
@@notfeedynotlazy I indeed tried it, and (as expected) it works quite well in some specific situations. How I get into these Situations realistically, I am not sure. I want my point to be pointing the opponent most of the time. I shall try to get this to work as a trick in, say, a montante kind of unterhau. (which is my understanding of what I think you mean) Wednesday is the next training, if it works well, I shall answer. Thanks for answering to a 3 year old comment :)
@@FlorisGerber realistically, it's similar to some 1-handed wards you see in I.33 and the like, and in Italian manuals, where you have moves that start from the same position as if you were drawing - be it because you _are_ drawing, be it because you took that position deliberately (for example, as a counter to some wards in I.33). In that case (admitely, side sword and buckler, not longsword) and in similar cases of Italian longsword, are cases where you are actually offering a "fake" weak point to incite a particular attack on his part - one of the cases where NOT having your point pointed at his face is actually desirable. Well, that and when you ARE cutting from an actual draw. Both are useful movements to master. (Not that I'm pretending to be a great expert, just that I'm personally used to those movements because they fit my personal style...)
I accidentally bumped into this UA-cam footage and found it interesting, and I liked the way it demonstrated the interaction. In real fight, the life and death resulted in seconds. I can imagine that was how they fought in real battles in the medieval times.
It truly is. I've been training my four sons in HEMA since they could heft their Black Walnut swords and plywood shields. As a Patriotic American, I intend on my entire family being capable of self defense. Should our decrepit government take my firearms.
@Koke Garcia No, South East Asian fencing is quite different from Europeans, but all fencing styles in the world have similiar techniques because humans are all the same biomechanically. The Spanish forbid the Fillipinos from picking up weapons because they were amazing warriors, they didn't have to learn how to fight from the Spanish
Beautiful execution of Longsword technique, to see the actual illustration movement preform gives you ideas on how to best uses them in current today self defense technique, Blacque wolfe
So this is what -machete- messer fights in 15th century Europe looks like... One must has balls of steel to overcome the fear of entering the measure required, in order to perform techniques like that.
Or be desperate enough to try it versus dying. I think that's really the whole point of the Messers; getting past and through armor. If you pay attention to where the strikes land these are all weakspots in traditional armor from the period.
@@trollberserker1515 I think he's talking about spacing, as in: there's a lot of grapling and getting up close, especially with the dagger techniques. Fighting that close every little mistake counts...
@@trollberserker1515 The german word would be "Mensur" meaning certain distances of the fight, depending on the weapon there are 3 to 7 (afaik) measures, i only do FMA so that would be medio,corto and largo additionally you have the time before,after and equal (vor, nach und gleich). Considering the space mostly numbering 8 (in my case 9), adding some principlesand tactics voilá: you´ve got your combatsystem.
does anyone know the name of the video where is starts off with a guy in the modern time with head phones on then it jumps to him in medieval times and hes fighting him self with long swords, then hes wife wakes him up by throwing water in hes face and hes a medieval farmer and it was all just a dream ? i can not find it any where
I know that song, I even have it in my PC, but I cant find it because I have forgotten the name. How was it? En gran cousa or something like that right?
You don't wanna messer with those guys
Maybe not in 1363.
if i forget take my rifle
The gun guy would use a gun! did you hear that everybody, the gun guy would use a gun.
@@nicholasvondoelln6814 Holy fuck. Why didn't anyone back in the day think of that?
😂
This is so inaccurate.. seriously, the treatises make it clear: you're supposed to have cryptic smiles on your faces the whole time!
James Pawson i'll try to do more serius in the next video :1
Raniero Mariotti If i would fight with someone with that blank emotionless expression i probably piss myself while doing it. Heroically, of course :P . You look like "Step off or im going to cut my way through you, no questions asked".
Love the video!
James Pawson not gonna lie, you had me in the first half.
On a serious note though those are some lightsaber-ass taps, I don't know why they're going so softly. They seem experienced enough to be able to control their stroke so that they're not in any serious danger from exchanging strikes...
I laughed too hard at this in a public space.
Another great HEMA vid :)
I love the fact, that this art is getting popular again.
we love too :)
Me three :) Now the catch is finding a HEMA group that's close.
where are you?
Austin, Texas in the US. There is a group here but they're exclusive to the longsword, where as I'm more interested in the messer
Raniero Mariotti Regnum Bohemiae :) yet high middle ages messer or even longsword is hard to find taken as serious HEMA not scenic choreography ...
and my beloved 19th century saber is nowhere to be found so Im fully in comepetent hands of writers of original manuals Henry Angelo and John Musgrave Waite :D very competent indeed :)
Ochs - european martial arts confirms that you guys are awesome!
Greetings from Bavaria.
I come back to rewatch this video quite often. Besides this being a masterpiece, your costumes are my favorite part. Belissimo!
This is my new favorite HEMA video--both in cinematography, an execution!
Agreed :)
HipposHateWater this vid is much better than the movie sword fights
grazie per i complimenti !!! per quanto riguarda il brano si tratta della Cantiga 26 "Non é gran cousa"
Siete sardi? In che lingua è "armizar"?
L'arte e l'abilità con cui maneggi i tuoi coltelli e le tue spade è favolosa. Non voglio davvero affrontare te o uno spadaccino 500 anni fa. Vorrei riempire più velocemente di quanto potessi pensare.
Felicidades por el video, todo un arte lo que compartís con nosotros. Gracias desde España.
I just wanted to thank you gentlemen for this most interesting and very clear video about performing adequate parries. I feel it helps me better understand this art and is very inspiring to me!
Grazie mille!
Gracias por este trabajo, siempre es un deleite ver los distintos estilos de esgrima y sus aplicaciones.
I don't know why this was recommended to me but I'm glad it was
You are evidently a man of sophistication and culture, and UA-cam acknowledges this.
same story, lmao
I wholeheartedly agree with all the wonderful comments, and would like to put forth my own; I love that fact that the moves are done just a bit slower than most vids. Makes it all so much more clear. Bravo!
The messer and dagger portion is by far the coolest for me, definitely inspiring me to take up the sport!
One of my favourite videos on the internet!
i am watching these kind of video's like all the time, i REALLY LOVED this one!!!!
Amazing cinematography & demonstration! Music was great too!
I keep coming back to this video; it's wonderful! Please do more like it!
this is an incredibly well put together film, and a brilliant piece on messer
And it was made in 2013
Modern sport fencing has been more culturally known, and has like, five decent videos on it on this entire site
HEMA content beats modern fencing content without a doubt
Very nicely done. Thanks for including the counters.
Please give credit to the singer/player of Non e gran cousa you used in the video: Arany Zoltan
Fantastic video otherwise! Good job! Excellent costuming and swordwork.
thank you. i wanted that info.
In all fairness, until i came across this video, my knowledge of that song ended with Lorena McKennitt.
Was looking for this. Thanks :)
Glorious work guys, several years after first view and I still love it!
I love the Arany Zoltán playing on the background, great vid
Beautiful weapons and the art of wielding it. A good movie! I wish I had found it so late!
Nice video. Keep doing! Greetings from Ukraine.
Very informative on the movements and targets chosen. Grazie for this wonderful video.
HOLY CRAP, it looks so effortlessly, but to practionner, it is like 'HOLY SHIT THATS A LOT OF MOVES IN THAT 1 SECOND'
mannn such well trained swordsmanship! This is such a gem
Awesome video!Is very don't forget our history and traditions.
Awesome video!! Great music!!!
Extraordinário. Parabéns e obrigado 👍 👍 👍
Respekt, richtig gut gemacht. Danke für diese tolle Vorführung. 👍🏻
Muito bom, essa técnica em velocidade deve ser muito eficiente.
2:34 this is beautiful
great demonstration of techniques. thank you!
ho appreso molte cose grazie a questo video bellissimo! anche se sono passati anni fatene altri !! bravissimi
tra un paio di giorni uscirà un video in merito...grazie
Love the stop action. Perfect way to clarify to absorb intent.
Awesome camera work especially on the opening!
It is wonderful to see European people celebrating their history and culture.
Yes! Looks really cool.
If only they treated their music (Classical) the same way...
Браво. Истинное искусство меча.
Well done! Interesting material I haven't seen before :)
Be! che dire come al solito complimenti!! ottimo video e tecniche stupende.
Buen video y excelente demostración...
great stuff guys ! love to learn more about the messer !
The Music is soo Goodd...Luv It.soo much. And the Sword Skills.
It is such a shame that Europeans had excellent martial art techniques but no one knows about it in the world except few people.
I would definitely love to learn this.
I forgott to mention; Awesome outfits :D Gotta love this fashion ^^ And beautiful Messer !
Aaaah i love that vid :D !
thanks :)
Which part of europe are these clothes from?
@@gustavoscottifraga4541 Could be german or italian. Just before 1500.
Wow! Those are so cool! Well done Sirs
(upping the speed of the video is neat too :) )
da pelle d'oca ,...... i testi medioevali riprendono vita , vederle dal vivo ed eseguite in siffatto modo e' GRAN COSA .....
very strong video, one of the best showcases of these techniqes i have yet seen.
2:34 has to be the least practical grip of a sword ever, though. Might happen if you have to draw and have no time to grip properly, but still...
I have to try that in todays training :)
I know this comment is three years old, and you have surely had time to practise it ;-) but for the benefice of those wondering years later, that is not a "static" grip - that's a "I have my sword in underarm position and want to launch an unterhau, let's move the left hand to the pommel for extra leverage" kind of dinamic, temporary grip.
@@notfeedynotlazy I indeed tried it, and (as expected) it works quite well in some specific situations.
How I get into these Situations realistically, I am not sure. I want my point to be pointing the opponent most of the time.
I shall try to get this to work as a trick in, say, a montante kind of unterhau.
(which is my understanding of what I think you mean)
Wednesday is the next training, if it works well, I shall answer.
Thanks for answering to a 3 year old comment :)
@@FlorisGerber realistically, it's similar to some 1-handed wards you see in I.33 and the like, and in Italian manuals, where you have moves that start from the same position as if you were drawing - be it because you _are_ drawing, be it because you took that position deliberately (for example, as a counter to some wards in I.33). In that case (admitely, side sword and buckler, not longsword) and in similar cases of Italian longsword, are cases where you are actually offering a "fake" weak point to incite a particular attack on his part - one of the cases where NOT having your point pointed at his face is actually desirable.
Well, that and when you ARE cutting from an actual draw. Both are useful movements to master.
(Not that I'm pretending to be a great expert, just that I'm personally used to those movements because they fit my personal style...)
I had a dream where I used that hand-grip, it somehow worked in the dream 😂
Lovely music!
I accidentally bumped into this UA-cam footage and found it interesting, and I liked the way it demonstrated the interaction. In real fight, the life and death resulted in seconds. I can imagine that was how they fought in real battles in the medieval times.
in a battle they did wear armor. the fight is a lot different with armor.
nope. this is text-book posing, like in the manuals. Genuine encounters (even modern competitive ones) are far more savage.
Great! Amazing demonstration.
My heart is bursting...
This is beauty
It truly is. I've been training my four sons in HEMA since they could heft their Black Walnut swords and plywood shields. As a Patriotic American, I intend on my entire family being capable of self defense. Should our decrepit government take my firearms.
This never gets old for me
Love it!Praise from Phillippines.Our arts have simillarities.
@Koke Garcia No, South East Asian fencing is quite different from Europeans, but all fencing styles in the world have similiar techniques because humans are all the same biomechanically.
The Spanish forbid the Fillipinos from picking up weapons because they were amazing warriors, they didn't have to learn how to fight from the Spanish
Nagyon érdekes. És precíz!
Excelente técnica 👏🇧🇷
Great demosntration guys !
Messer and dagger?! EPIC!
Great video! Out of curiosity, what treatise did you show at the beginning?
Beautiful execution of Longsword technique, to see the actual illustration movement preform gives you ideas on how to best uses them in current today self defense technique, Blacque wolfe
Complimenti, ottima forma!
Brilliant video!
thank you !!!
So this is what -machete- messer fights in 15th century Europe looks like...
One must has balls of steel to overcome the fear of entering the measure required, in order to perform techniques like that.
Or be desperate enough to try it versus dying. I think that's really the whole point of the Messers; getting past and through armor. If you pay attention to where the strikes land these are all weakspots in traditional armor from the period.
Bfore conan the barbarian or after
@@trollberserker1515 I think he's talking about spacing, as in: there's a lot of grapling and getting up close, especially with the dagger techniques. Fighting that close every little mistake counts...
@@trollberserker1515 The german word would be "Mensur" meaning certain distances of the fight, depending on the weapon there are 3 to 7 (afaik) measures, i only do FMA so that would be medio,corto and largo additionally you have the time before,after and equal (vor, nach und gleich). Considering the space mostly numbering 8 (in my case 9), adding some principlesand tactics voilá: you´ve got your combatsystem.
This is why you practice with a blunt weapon first. Practice makes perfect.
So many sublte moves amazing art
Great video, brilliantly done!
I hope that you will make a full video on Fiore dei Liberi
Who agrees with that?
I love this music as well
Could you tell me where do these techniques come from? Fiore? Leckuchner?? Thx!
Where did you guys get these nice Lange Messer from?
great video!
Sois los mejores
Beautiful.... Great..... Salute...For saving this art
Хорошее видео, очень понравилось!
thank you !!!
Great performance :-)
I have a question-- can this be applied to a freestyle situation?
This is amazing Hollywood shoukd take more notes
Love this hope to see at the tournemsnt I am going to organise where arr you located
See no bullshite here but pure realistic combat! Love it from Turkey❤❤❤
Muy bueno , excelente. Me gustaria saber el nombre del tema que sirve de cortina.
Love the video!! :-)
what manual has the messer and dagger
brillante, sincerely awesome
ADOREI !!!!
The blonde man has beautiful hair! Great vid.
Wow esta super interesante. Quiero aprenderlo.
does anyone know the name of the video where is starts off with a guy in the modern time with head phones on then it jumps to him in medieval times and hes fighting him self with long swords, then hes wife wakes him up by throwing water in hes face and hes a medieval farmer and it was all just a dream ? i can not find it any where
That sounds like one of the first Martin Fabian´s video, should be this one: ua-cam.com/video/xj5ud3mbWvk/v-deo.html
you are fantastic. keep up the videos to inform us visually. Please!
I know that song, I even have it in my PC, but I cant find it because I have forgotten the name. How was it? En gran cousa or something like that right?
Cantiga 26 "Non é gran cousa"
loving this
Who made these great doublets??
How are false edge cuts working on messers?
This was amazing. Someone make a movie out of this.
thanks pheraphs in the future we will try it...
WoW !! Realy cool, guys! I like it!
Beautiful! :)
Beautiful music. Who is the performer and what is the title?
Beautiful!
awesome stuff
Does anyone know the brand/model of the grossemessers used in this video? I'm looking to buy one soon
Fantastic!! 👏👏
is sabre fighting the same?
Molto Puliti e fluidi...bravi...👏😸🌹🐝