“Bond is not a hero, nor is he depicted as being very likable or admirable. He is a Secret Service Agent. He’s not a bad man, but he is ruthless and self-indulgent. He enjoys the fight- he also enjoys the prizes. In fiction people used to have blood in their veins. Nowadays they have pond water. My books are just out of step. But then so are all the people who read them.” “I didn’t intend for Bond to be likable. He’s a blunt instrument in the hands of the government. He’s got vices and few perceptible virtues.” - Ian Fleming. Bond isn’t meant to be a hero. People in that professional world are not heroic.
This exactly. I don’t believe Bind was ever meant to be a father or husband. I did enjoy OHMSS and that storyline was fine, especially with the ending. But in each of the Craig films, he seems to go soft for a woman. That immediately takes his edge away and hence his purpose as an assassin. He needs to be the shadow again. Ruthless.
@@Spook291 in an increasingly soft world… this is the type of male masculine character that needs to be brought back to the big screen; Connery and Brosnan, in my opinion, did it best.
Very good and important point you just made. Amazon isn't a real movie studio, just a streaming service for straight to video crap, mostly. They should have zero influence on the future of Bond.
@@jeffhreid Bond has always been contemporary. We shouldn’t let NTTD make us forget that Craig’s contemporary Bond worked very well in the first 4 movies. Modern audiences aren’t going to accept a chain-smoker who sexually assaults people.
@@DHTCF But then they risk losing the audience built up since Dr No. There has to be midddle ground Casino Royale and Skyfall is as far as the compromise should go. Unless going back in time with the movie written in the past and then Bond can behave as in that era. Bond is essentially a paid killer not a social worker and like it or not, no trained woman is better than a trained Man physically. Making a female 007 in NTTD was woke gone mad. Bond doesnt sexually assault women in anycase, Female spies etc throw themselves at him to try to get information or set him up.
Bond never smoked cigarettes in either the Brosnan or Moore eras, so that hasn’t been an issue for a good half-century. The sexual assault stuff pretty much ended with Connery.
Maybe not a movie but definitely a tv series (and before you say that “bond is for the big screen” bs, bond since CR in 1953 has appeared in all different art form over the years. Like for instance comic book, comic strip in the daily express, animated series even if it was a big mistake doomed to fail from the start, video games, radio dramas Etc.) since the bond franchise is all about “keeping up with the times and moving forward”. I still firmly believe that making it like the books and a period piece is more fit for a tv series rather than a movie.
I've had a long standing respect for Barbara, there's a lot of people wanting her job. She's confident enough not to be fooled. I trust the EON family totally. It's a Family Business.
It's been nearly 4 years since No Time to Die and they haven't even STARTED on a new script and supposedly there's been no auditions at all for the next Bond. In other words, there's been zero progress toward the next film. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if we reach the 10th anniversary of Craig Bond's explosive death before we get another film :(
They will the Americans can't push their agenda on us Europeans anymore. The last people alive during the Second World War have all almost passed away and they have no moral justification of subjugating us anymore considering how they have dehumanised Germans and Russians and pitted Western Europeans against Eastern Europeans.
As a Bond fan the problem is the longer this goes on is a real problem. Younger people are NOT fans and the fan base is getting older and smaller. There is a long history of dead movie franchises and the Bond might very well be one of them.
Bond was replaced four times. Five actors played Bond for over 6 decades. The franchise thrived despite the cultural shifts that occurred. The Bond franchise with the right writers and a new actor would have continued with the usual end credit tease, "James Bond will return..." Offing Bond ended the franchise.
Nonsense. It’s an archetype character that’s appealed for 70 years. The box office is still v.healthy on these films. Just needs a refresh and a new lead actor for the next decade.
@@encinobalboa we’re all willing to suspend our disbelief. We don’t watch Bond for gritty social realism. Best thing would be to just pretend NTTD never happened. The answer to young people not being “fans” is, give them good films and they’ll become fans. None of us was born a fan. We can’t let fandom become some exclusive club with entry rituals. Forget bring-backery, forget the calls to “go back to the books” (decades out of date), Bond has never been a period character. Give us good, entertaining, stand-alone films, and we’ll keep watching and nee fans will join in.
Bingo. Half the decisions she makes are not to the betterment of the franchise, she likes sticking to a formula that half the time doesn't work and the rest of the time holds it up in stasis.
Personally, I’m glad this story was published. It will force the conversation about what the hell is going on with the Bond franchise. Not just the fanboys but the industry itself. There is way too much money on the table and clearly someone is taking their sweet time to get the engine going again.
I don't know if it will. Maybe it's different internationally but in the UK we get Bond stories all the time [like linking actors to the role and touting the singer of the next song] so they kind of fade away quickly. The 'Aaron Taylor-Johnson' for Bond story for big for a couple of weeks but was swiftly forgotten for example.
She's right. These corporations have ruined so many franchises. You all would do well to appreciate the initial 25 movies and stop praying for some horrific Amazon Bond. The worst part of No Time To Die was not the death, but 'James Bond will return'.
@@g.manifestomsnifesto4338 Incels like you are the reason they don't want to bring Bond back. Men now are pathetic right wing victims who think 'woke' is a real thing, and not just a distraction propagated by billionaire owned right wing media to distract you from wealth inequality. You see, morons these days don't deserve Bond.
I could totally see it being true. Amazon has been pushing a feministic agenda for quite a while. They didn't care at all that the Lord of the Rings fanbase is not onboard with Rings of Power. Because Galadriel is a magical being much more than she is a warrior or general in the books and movies. And I could totally see Amazon trying to push Eon to establish a strong female agent next to James Bond that is better than him. And that can easily spark disaster, when you look at what LucasFilm has done to Star Wars.
Didn't NTTD wrap in 2019? And was suppose to come out 2020? So its been 5 years since it wrapped. And since there's no new script, director, hell, even an actor we're looking at at least 2-3 years minimum before next movie could be done. So it's reaching the longest hiatus for Bond in history.
The original release date was November 2019. That was scrapped when Danny Boyle and John Hodge quit/or fired. NTTD was set for Feb 14th 2020. It was the same release date as Sonic the Hedgehog. Then NTTD was delayed due to Covid-19. The film was completed in autumn 2019 so it's five years of zero Bond film making. 2019 to 2024. It's now almost 2025 so the most realistic early release date is 2026 and that's very unlikely. 2027 more likely? If there is litigation between Amazon and Eon then it's very likely to be a long gap between Bond 25 and 26.
Sad but true. Even if Eon announced tomorrow that they were going to start making the new movie, had a script, and had already cast an actor to play Bond, it would still be at least a year until the movie comes out in theaters. And that's obviously not going to happen. I think there's a good chance that the hiatus in between Bond 25 and 26 will be even longer than the one between Licence To Kill and GoldenEye. Broccoli and Wilson have just been so lethargic about Bond 26 that I can't see it coming out any time soon. Maybe Bond 26 will come out in 2026. I don't know.
I've always said when people say 'Eon should sell Bond'-look at Disney+ Star Wars and be careful what you wish for. It's only a big studio that could afford to take Bond on and at there main priority is pumping out content.
I have no doubt, that if there's any truth to the WSJ article, in time, EON and Amazon will come to a reasonable compromise. And if there is some truth to the article, I must give gratitude and respect for Barbara Broccoli for sticking to her values and protecting the franchise. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Terminator, Alien, the DCU and the MCU all have one thing in common, they started with there core gems followed by a flood of mediocrity. Do we want that for Bond?
I hear you but I make executive decisions every day and clearly there is a lot of talk and no action with regards to the franchise. These are movies. I bet a half dozen Bond fans could figure all this out over a weekend
@@darkcircles1313 I seriously doubt it. if you are a executive you are obviously not a creative executive who needs to balance the core value of revenue for a business while dealing with artists/creatives and their creations. As person who works in the creative world and who has friends in the movie industry that is extremely complicated and can be extremely litigious. Things get killed fast or shelved for decades if the business side never comes to terms with the creative side.
There is little to no room for compromise between Broccoli and Amazon. I'm not sure Amazon understands what exactly Broccoli is legally allowed to do with regards the portrayal of Bond. All she has the legal rights to do from the Fleming estate is to portray Fleming's literary character on screen. Bond on screen cannot deviate from Fleming's character. Even a black Bond would be breach of contract, and copyright infringement.
Enjoy your channel David. Merry Christmas early. 1-Re-releasing some of films in the theater would give us 007 fans some happiness and keep Bond relevant. 2-Would still love to see Pierce Brosnan back some how. 3-I keep telling my 12 year old son he could be the next 007 in the future, just finished "FYEO."
I like your positivity. Bond is Eons main product and they want to do it right. I think at the end of the day Amazon will want the £sd to roll in. Bond is after all still unique among franchises and a licence to print money
While I personally respect legacy media and the article about the Amazon/Broccoli 'feud' seems plausible, this week alone WSJ released an article about a European foreign policy issue which had to be dispelled by a Nordic president. So who knows how much truth there is in the article about Bond. What comes to Bond IP, it should never become 'content' a la Star Wars.
Agreed. I was big Star Wars fan, but after Last Jedi I made the decision not to watch any new Star Wars. There are probably some good Tv shows but Disney killed Star Wars char, that even prequel movies had. Don't wanna see some 50 soulless Bond shows.
I was initially annoyed with Barbara for not getting on with it but perhaps it's because she's defending the franchise from being invaded like other franchises have been. The only streaming Bond I would like is an animated version, perhaps each season based on a classic Bond movie or just inspired by it.
The thing is while I shudder to think of what amazon would do, let's be frank that the reason she's pushing back is she wants it HER way, not necessarily what's best for the franchise or what anyone wants. Pretty much the only thing she's good for is stopping them from spinning it off, if amazon could be limited to one project a lot of us might even warm up to a tv show adapting the Fleming novels in order. She just wants more money and we'll see her same tired formula, Purvis and Wade writing again, some outdated attempt at the plot being "of the moment," her choice for lead, etc.
@@brentandrew2419OH I agree. Isn't that why Nolan walked? He wanted full control of the movie and she said no. All the people bashing Amazon ,need to step back and think about what a disaster NTTD was. IMost of it made no sense and came across as if it were made by a committee.
@@vittoriacolona Those Nolan stories haven't been confirmed by either party so there probably not true-I think post Oppenheimer he was always going to do another Universal project as they gave him what he wanted.
Barbara comes across as a sincere woman and she gave a revealing answer to your question, 'how often when you make those choices [about the future of the franchise] do you think about the fans and the Bond community?' She replied, 'We always think about...the fans in the respect that we want to make the best film possible...We make the films for the audiences'. She balanced this with the need to be brave and make choices, even if they're wrong. This sounds like a genuine concern for the curation of the franchise and suggests that she considers the audience in its broadest sense, not just the fan base, which I respect. But I wonder if she believed No Time To Die was the best possible Bond film
Huge huge fan of Daniel Craig 007 , especially Casino Royale , but disappointed in how things transpired in No Time to Die…especially his becoming a family man, death of Felix Leider, the other “007’, etc. stick with traditional 007, in fact Fleming’s 007 !
I don’t know why people have such an issue with the family man thing. It was only for one movie. Fleming gave Bond a child in the novels, so I don’t think this is out of the realm of Ian Fleming’s world of Bond.
In fairness Fleming gave Bond a child in 'You only live twice [with Kissy's Pregnancy] which he presumably was going to follow up if he'd been able to carry on and Bond says to Draco in OHMSS that he wants a family with Tracy before that's taken away from him so it was in Fleming's novels.
I trust Babs. She's fierce and will always protect the character. I know some people weren't happy with Craig's interpretation, but he was the right Bond for the time and EON always knows where Bond needs to go, to keep this franchise alive. She's doing the right thing by taking time to make sure the next iterationof Bond is on point.
@@4879daniel It doesn't matter. He's coming back. It was a risky move, and it actually brought back stakes for a character that was always presented as unkillable and impervious, It was a needed change, which probably won't happen again.
It does matter, it’s symbolic if nothing else because death is the end. How is the death in any way a good thing for the series? It was a selfish wish of Craig.
I hope they figure things out and not distort the character. Keep 007 James Bond...not a female Bond, etc. If Amazon/Eon want to make a film with a female protagonist, I would enjoy watching a separate Paloma film. But keep 007 James Bond.
Great and interesting video David hopefully Eon and Amazon can work together to give us Bond 26 and give us a great new actor to play James Bond and an entertaining film
Don’t people realise that the Bond character is actually based on a former SAS soldier who worked independently during WWII and was only answerable to Churchill. The man was seriously deadly, the only man to have been awarded both the Military Cross and the Victoria Cross by the King himself.
@@jamesatkinsonja and you would be right. But not only. James is based on Fleming personality indeed, but lots of other people, experiences, context in thrown in that mix.
The killing off of Bond in NTTD was a big misstep. I know it is and was purported to be Craig’s idea (and such is the danger of allowing the incumbent actor such free rein and say…). It’s basically rendered the franchise like Dr Who now, with regenerations. The character.. almost like the office of POTUS, should remain untouched, respected and unmolested. The incumbent individual.. you can think what you like. The killing off of Bond made Craig larger than the character, as if he ‘deserved’ to be the one to have this occur during his tenure, and no actor should be larger than the character, the canon, and Fleming’s original base material. As many have said - it would never have happened under Cubby. Danny Boyle I reckon refused to kill off Bond. Barbara and Craig’s love-in made it so. He knew what a tailspin that would send the whole franchise into. And he was correct - if Skyfall was a high watermark, NTTD almost feels like a different universe, it doesn’t feel like a Bond film. I think Boyle needs to be given his creative freedom back and a fair crack of the whip again.
They should take Bond back to its roots and adapt the books exactly and in the time period they were written. Tarantino wanted to directly adapt Casino Royale and set it in the 60's. That would've been pretty cool.
Only problem with setting a movie in the 50's or 60's is the advertisement tie-ins---the absence of the latest smart phones being just one of them. Don't forget, a huge portion of the budget comes from advertising. Also, a retro movie would be made through a present-day lens, not a 1960 one.
I would prefer Bond like he was before Craig. Charming, charasmatic, witty. Casino was great, but I can’t just sit down and watch it through. Skyfall was incredible for me, more due to the gravitas Bardem brought to Silva. And Severin was great Bond girl, despite limited time on screen. Quantum, Spectre, NTTD I just don’t like. They each have cool momments though, and Paloma again limited screen time, but great character. Craig era was more like Bourne films to me. I want a good villain, henchman, Bond girls, gadgets etc.
Yeah her instincts were horrible and we were stuck with a choice that she liked that was by no means the world's favor like Pierce was. Craig wasn't bad- particularly in the beginning- but let's be honest there's a dozen actors who could've done it just as well if not better. I would've personally preferred Bale was Bond rather than Batman.
I agree. The Craig films felt more like Bourne than Bond. I hope with Craig's successor they'll make the first Bond film since 2002. Even Dead Reckoning Part One felt more like Bond than Craig's ones.
Ian Fleming described his agent, 007 James Bond, to be: 185 cm tall (approx. 6'2), dark hair and grey-blue eyes. Connery - check, Lazenby - check, Moore - almost check (but good enough), Dalton - check, Brosnan - check, Craig - NOT SO MUCH. He's a good actor, apart from that weird mouth/face he puts up, but the "americanization" of the British character is just so damaging. PLEASE go back to the roots, make Bond great again! He must be British, suave, a womanizer, NOT political correct, and he must make fun of the Americans as well as the Russians (ref. the "You only live twice" pre-title sequence): "We don't agree. Her Majesty's government is not convinced that this intruder missile originated from Soviet-Russia. Our tracking station in Singapore reported faint echoes of this craft coming down in the sea of Japan area. Might I suggest gentlemen that this is where you should concentrate your intelligence forces. The Prime Minister has asked me to assure you that this is what we propose to do. It's a matter of fact; our man in Hong Kong is working on it now....." AND - after he was "working on it", he was "killed".... Was he? No, the mummified Bond was alive when he entered the submarine. I guess he wasn't killed in "No Time To Die" either... I hope we comes alive as a classic, British Bond again.
The reason for the six years gap after Licence was the corporate side, not EON (and the article gets it wrong/leaves it out). EON only has 50% control of cinematic Bond after Harry Saltzman sold his half. I do still think EON got into some bad habits with the Craig era of films but I trust them over Amazon all day erryday. See what Amazon did to Tolkien and think what they'd do to Ian Fleming if they had full control.
Thanks David for providing some helpful Context and some calm to the discussion! Of course its a challenge to reboot JB into a new era, but having a hugely popular franchise at stake should bring everybodys fokus back on how Best to create a big comeback for 007… might take a few years though…
LOL I was so waiting for this episode!!!! I knew you comment on this WSJ piece!!! Thank you! As for the article I am sure the WSJ sourced their piece well and their reputation for award winning journalism lends credibility to the article. I don't doubt that their is friction as Amazon is a content creator. They have a streaming network that needs content and what better source to draw from than the Bond franchise. BB probably chafes at that "content" term for she most likely believes that she is a creator of art/cinema and the word content screams PROLIFERATION AND PROPAGATION...basically milking products for all that it's worth. BB treats her franchise as a creative jewel that should never be over stretched. Sure you have merchandising but Bond has never over saturated the market like other franchises like SW or ST or DC or Marvel. BB treats Bond with care and realizes that Bond should be appreciated in small doses. Something a behemoth content creator like Amazon might not appreciate. It's a shame really. it's obviously not a death knell for Bond. BB wants the franchise to exist far in the future. But until Amazon and BB can work out their differences the longer it will take for the next Bond to be released. And that would definitely eliminate my favorite choice...Henry Caville. He's not getting younger and he may have already aged out. But a longer delay will definitely not be in his favor.
The more I think of the WSJ article, the more suspect I am of it. Though I haven't agreed with all of Barbara's decisions as a fan, I respect her ans feel she has given us better decisions than any studio would have. I have thought since Daniel finished that it would be a long period of adjusting where they go after. When they are ready, I'll be ready. I don't think this article will play into the reality of when work on the next film starts.
I think the damage was done when they decided on a through narrative for the Craig era. Casino was a wonderful film about Bond coming into "the life" and it should have been left there and reverted to him just being a fantastical glamorous and exciting avatar to vicariously inhabit for a couple of escapist hours. He is and does everything we'd like to be and do but aren't and can't. We falter in adversity, he doesn't. We moan, he doesn't. We weaken, age and become less important, he doesn't. But we walk out of the film with a bit of a spring in our step because in our imagination we've "lived him" a little while. They've made the same mistake as with every other franchise these days - it's not supposed to be bldy Proust.
Proust does Bond! Some Bond childhood flashbacks/memories would be interesting to see. But seriously, I have to agree with your overall sentiment about the throughline narrative of the Craig movies, in particular because much of it seemed retconned (is that the right word?) during Spector - laughably so at times - the pictures of past villains as Bond enters M16 at the end of Spector to have his glass partitioned tête-à-tête with brother Blofeld comes to mind. A man on an individualized mission is formula, no doubt, but it's a formula that worked so well. Hints of Bond's past were always in the movies, albeit in very small doses - XXX reminding Bond of his former wife, Bond visiting Tracy's grave in For Your Eyes Only, recurring characters like General Gogol or Zukovsky. I would have preferred a slight amping up of continuity in characters, small references to past events etc., but still have Bond pick up new assignments that are unconnected by some large overarching conspiracy put into motion by your long-lost step? brother who also happens to be #1 in the largest and/or most formidable criminal syndicate in the world. How about stopping a charismatic heroin (fentanyl?) dealer who moonlights as a Papa Doc like dictator in a 3rd world country? Or some elite hitman turned energy tycoon looking to mothball some recent energy breakthrough for the right price? Could be interesting . . .
Were in the cinematic universe era and serialised storytelling was dominating TV [especially the streaming era] so it's no surprise they went for a through narrative. Mission Impossible used to be episodic but even that has gone serialised in recent installments. The Dark Knight trilogy taking Batman from his origins to his retirement/end probably cemented it.
@@jamesatkinsonja I think modern creatives crave the prestige and money from big popular pretty straightforward franchises but regard actually producing them as beneath them. Sad truth being that they tend to intellectualise trivia and trivialise intellect because they don't genuinely understand and appreciate the nature and strengths of either.
Casino could have been the start of a whole new era for Bond. Unfortunately it was a flash in the pan with everything that followed going progressively down hill. As for NTTD I can't believe that the script ever made it into production. As for Amazon I'm sure they would do for Bond what Disney did for Star Wars.
I couldn’t agree more. NTTD was an atrocity overall, but the script is truly shocking. It’s completely incoherent and nonsensical. 1 hour and 15 minutes into the movie, when Bond was on a badly rendered cartoon boat, I paused it and asked my wife “What the hell is the plot of this movie?” She had no idea either.
@JRRob3wn Sad really. It's not that Bonds license to print money has been revoked but it will take Barbara's skill, determination and commitment to renew it.
@@TALKCalgary She clearly has no idea what she’s doing. Most of the Brosnan films are mediocre at best, but at least they followed the basic formula. Her interviews make my head hurt. She’s really no better than these Amazon people. She’s open to a gay Bond FFS.
Thank you David. I’m left thinking what would Bond do? He would “move on” from Amazon. Maybe go independent… Love the 60th watch btw - It’s taken me a while, but I’ve just picked mine up a few days ago.😊 Merry Christmas.
@@andyheller2691 Calvin Dyson rightly said that won't happen as it will be very expensive and probably won't have mass appeal as show by Man from Uncle and 'The Kingsman bombing
I too will just wait and see. As of now I don't miss a new Bond movie. I enjoy all the expanded soundtracks from Lala Land records. Btw in 2025 its the 30th anniversary of GoldenEye and we might just see an expanded version of that soundtrack. Would it be possible for The Bond experience to interview Eric Serra?
I recently watched the documentary again, chronicling Daniel Craig’s casting and rise to Bond fame. The passion and love for the character expressed by both the cast and creative team behind the films is the reason they were so successful. It’s disheartening to see the disconnect taking place. BB knows what she’s doing. I really hope they work this out and we get the next Bond/film we deserve.
I certainly agree that there was a lot talent and passion producing the Craig era films. But when they interviewed Craig following the release of Spectre, he sounded like Sean Connery after YOLT- burned out and done! I would have preferred that Eon took Daniel at his word and rebooted the franchise with someone else. Instead they invested several years on another Craig film where Bond is blown to bits!
@@tomchris60 True. Though the film has grown on me. Just as we never question the character seemingly ageless living in his prime since the 60s, we’ll get used to another reboot of the character. That is if they get their act together.
This was a good general analysis of the latest goings on in the production of the future Bond films. David has some additional insight with his interviews with the Eon owning family of the franchise. All I can say is though I believe we are losing movie goers' interest as time passes between Bond 25 and 26 and the aging of fans, and the films now at the extreme fringes of movie viewers but once a new Bond film is released, I believe it will be an enormous event again. If a large percentage of the Bond being barely mediocre hasn't killed the franchise, then Daniel Craig's last outing isn't either.
I just wanted to throw this into the mix. Amazon made Rings Of Power, supposedly respecting the source. As a LOTR fan, nope. I could see them trying to do something similar with Bond. Which as an equally huge fan of Bond, I would hate
Also, when listening to the Journal podcast, it was clear both the interviewer and person who wrote the article did not know much of anything regarding the James Bond series and the business of Eon Productions business model and how the films are produced. Makes me wonder if Amazon was trying to get a story out there to produce Bond fans to "demand" a new film
Thanks for the video, David! I can relate to all you're saying. As a huge James Bond fan I will always hold dear to our beloved 'anti'hero!! Hope to meet you some day and have a chat about our favorite common character.
Barbara and Michael have been neglect in their stewardship of the franchise. It is now evident that Casino Royale’s success can be directly attributed to Martin Campbell and Paul Haggis. Listening to Barbara talk about Bond is like listening to Kathleen Kennedy talk about Star Wars. The Eon heirs have earned nothing!!!!!!!
From what I've read about the contract between Eon and Fleming's estate, all Broccoli is allowed to is keep true to the Bond character as written in Fleming's books. Anything else would be breach of contract and copyright infringement, which would result in Eon being sued for bazillions in court.
There's been plenty of Bond movies that don't use any of Fleming's material at all [''You only live twice' was the first that had virtually nothing in common with the book] including Bond's behaviour even early films would use Fleming's material however they liked [for example Henderson in Flemings 'You only live twice' is a brash Australian who survives the novel while the movie version is a polite Englishman who dies after one scene]. They own Fleming's material but they can do pretty much whatever they want with it-James Bond Jr being a prime example [the book copyright holders only insisted no Book only material featured but otherwise weren't bothered], much like any IP [The Bourne films for example have virtually no connection to the films].
@@jamesatkinsonja The material isn't what Broccoli is legally beholden per se. As I understand it, Eon has the rights to show Fleming's literary character, as described in the novels, on screen. The storylines for films can be based on Fleming's novels, or can be brand new stories. The latter has been the case since at least GoldenEye. My assumption is that as Bond is described in Fleming's novels as a white man, Broccoli cannot have a black actor playing Bond. All the press clamor for Idris Elba was deliberate woke nonsense.
@@jivebunny3765 I don't want to get into culture war stuff but given Felix and Moneypenny have been 'race swapped' and M was gender swapped there is clearly no such restrictions. Ian Fleming Publications is certainly not going to sue to 'keep Bond White'...
All good things must come to an end. I'm big fan and I've seen every 007 movie in their theatrical releases, but maybe a domesticated dead Bond is as far as it should go. In any event, I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over the veracity of The Wall Street Journal. There are still plenty of pulp heroes to explore that would excite movie goers if there was a startup with the kind of flair and style that James Bond had.
I want to see a young bond set during WW2 that goes on the flourish during the cold war. It would be great to find a great, young actor that will portray him from something like 1942 to 1962. I would be happy to see them go back and revisit some of Fleming's novels and treat them seriously as they were written.
I agree wholeheartedly. But it HAS to be a tv series (bond appeared in different art forms since CR in 1953. So don’t give me that argument). Also it should be its own continuity and timeline of the books and have absolutely NO connection to the films. That way they don’t have to worry about connection (not that they were ever good at it. They were atrocious 🤣).
@@4879danielMost of the brands in the product placements have been around for over 100 years, but I’m sure these brands want to push new products, not retro reissues.
@@4879daniel Exactly. It would also have loads of CGI in it to achieve the period setting and wouldn't be 'true to the text' as it's still a 2020's product.
My fantasy would be having the Fleming books and stories done straight, in the period they were written in. It would be great premium television and would obviously be a prestige product for Amazon/MGM. A similar thing was done with The Ipcress File. This would feature a Bond that we've never seen, a human rather than a near superhero. Most of those stories were never told and there wouldn't be the pressure to make them bigger than need be as a feature would demand.
They've done that with the Toby Stephen's radio series but most have been adapted at this point either pretty faithfully-Goldfinger, Casino Royale, From Russia with love etc-even if it's parts in other projects-Live and Let Die inspired sequences in 'For Your eyes only' [the keelhaul sequence] and Licence to Kill [the shark attack]and Moonraker being an inspiration for Die Another Day [respected millionaire with an invention which he's secretly using for sinister purposes].There isn't that much that hasn't been adapted in some form and the ones left e wouldn't work as films/TV-Diamonds are forever has Bond bemoaning that the mission is dull and beneath him at lot! The books are also pretty short so extra material would have to be added [as they often were to get them to 2hour film length, let along a 6+ hour series].
@@jamesatkinsonja I think that the way the Bosch books or The Last kingdom series have been adapted would work. A season generally adapts 2 novels. In the case of Bond, various short stories can be woven in as well.
Hi David and Community. I was fed up with all of this, literally. But it dawned on me that, in order to create something big, an artist has to meet the Zeitgeist. Every big album, every Song, every movie, has managed to ride the wave and exist within the vibe of its time. If you would bang out the Floodland Album of The Sisters of Mercy, or the Street Fighting Years album of Simple Minds, now, they would have existed collecting dust in the shelves of record stores (which, due to the Zeitgeist, do not exist in that quantity and size anymore). Same for a movie character. I really do not know what I would suggest for a Bond in 2025. But every great Artist senses the necessity of letting time go by without a release. Because otherwise the greatness would just be erased. And this is why these things are so big. Never has it been so difficult to reflect the Zeitgeist for a Bond character than today. As a fan, it really is not pleasurable. But perhaps, necessary to make us wait. Kudos to Barbara. And it took time to realize it. And David, This might be one of your best episodes.
It’d be interesting if Bond had it’s villain spin offs. I made a fun fan fiction “trailer” of what I imagine Max Zorin and May Day’s long lost child would be up to now 40 years after their deaths, from unused outtake footage from a photoshoot with my new camera 😂 I cut my hair during quarantine and Grace Jones was my inspo. Maybe Bond could focus less on 007 and more on the villains like Batman did with The Joker.
I only take that article so seriously,. It is best for Eon to wait until the next MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE film comes out and the Superhero genre mess settles (the new SUPERMAN should start fixing that disaster) before they restart Bond for the fourth time after LIVING DAYLIGHTS, GOLDENEYE and CASINO ROYALE. Amazon/MGM/UA should just back them up with the biggest budget they ever had and promote it in every way, shape and form possible. Thank you for yet another excellent, outstanding video!
Hey david, what if broccoli doesnt want to make a film with amazon because theyd rather do a tv series and stop the film series? How would you feel if they wanted to take bond to streaming instead? I think bond should stay in theaters and released physically.
Amazon have and success with Jack Ryan and Reacher on streaming [and there promoting Paramount Plus' 'The Agency']. I'd rather Bond remained a movie franchise but maybe with a spin off TV series if a Paloma/Wai Lin style break out character immerge.
I don't believe that this is the "death knell" either, David, but...for a long time now, it seems that the producers have been afraid to move on from Craig. Perhaps they became too emotionally attached to him for their own good. He was a great Bond, but he is not the be all end all of the franchise. Picking the new Bond is an extremely important decision, no doubt, but it shouldn't be this hard. With all that being said, I'm glad that they're not rushing it just for the sake of making a film. None of us want Bond to turn into what Star Wars has become, but perhaps it's inevitable. I guess it doesn't really matter if they make a bunch of pointless Amazon Prime "content" as long as the main film series is good. They best not wait too long, though, or they will completely lose the younger generation.
My issue here is that Amazon has done a really good job in the so-called Dad TV genre, which is where James Bond fits. Amazon has done amazing things with shows like Bosch, Reacher, Jack Ryan, and The Terminal List. My instincts are telling me this disagreement is less about the direction of the franchise and more about money and control.
Whether you enjoyed Daniel Craig’s era or not, it was likely EON’s only chance to delve deeply into James Bond’s character arc, offering a clear beginning, middle, and end. I sincerely hope they resolve whatever is causing delays in the series, but let’s hope the legendary status of these action films remains untarnished by the kind of “woke” decisions that have arguably hurt franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars.
It's interesting that publicly Amazon stated fairly recently that they are fine with Eon taking there time to develop Bond 26 and Amazon+ Eon announced they were doing a reboot of 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' just the other week so this feels very contradictory, especially as there is no signs that Bond 26 is in any sort of production [which is worth remembering anytime a 'favour of the week is going to be Bond' article appears].
The only reason I didn’t walk out of NTTD was that I kept hoping that somehow they would put out the dumpster fire and rescue the movie, but they didn’t. I have very little confidence that they can rescue the franchise.
I'm sorry to say this, however; I feel as though the DEI department at Amazon would destroy our beloved character. On a side note David, it would be wonderful to have a video diving into James Bond philosophy. Just thinking of future infotainment. ;)
Calvin Dyson rightly said he doesn't think that will happen as it will be extremely expensive [and CGI heavy] while losing the product placement. The Man from Uncle and The Kingsman flopping doesn't suggest general audience would be interested either. It's also going to look inauthentic compared to the Connery films made in the 60's.
I agree with many here that Bond that should go back to its roots, and have a retro Bond that's close to the books and set in the 50's/60's during the height of the Cold War. Have a focus on espionage, glamor, spying, sexiness, and good old fashioned fun.
Amazon is knee deep in DEI, and I wouldn't be suprised if she's politically clashing and becoming controlled by it a tad more than she (Barbara) would like. DEI can be insanely restricting on a creative level. It's evidant in Rings of Power, Die Another Day, Wheel of Time, and several other original shows. As a 50 year old, life long Bond fan, this terrifies me about Bond's future. I feel like, until they figure things out, EON should settle for a M+ rated animated show that could run for a few seasons, and serve as fan service to keep us drooling for the next film.
Do you listen to interviews with Barbara? I don't think a woke agenda would bother her. I doubt that's what the problem is. And while I'm not a fan of Amazon, they have been respectful of Lee Child's Reacher. No woke BS in that series.
@philipmccracken697 Talking to the press and what goes on behind the scenes are very different things, and that was for the Die Another Day hype train, nut current events.
Feel like both sides are villains. B. Broccoli was ok with having Craig do whatever he wanted, and he obviously didn't respect the franchise. She and Michael Wilson allowed them to kill Bond. Now, as some have said, Amazon isn't respectful to the heritage of stories or the consistency of narrative with what they purchase. Lord of the rings, for example. But whose fault was it to sell the Blnd IP!
Albert R. "Cubby" Broccoli was a great leader! He was THE BOSS. Sadly, after his death, everything began to fall apart. Quietly but surely. Especially in the Daniel Craig era. Barbara and Michael have not made good decisions. The last movie NTTD(2021) was terrible: Bond was almost a depressed psychopath, Bond became a father, Bond died. WTF was that!?!?!?😠
I was willing to give the article some credence as it's The Wall Street Journal not some rag mag. But I've been around a bit and know that even reputable news organizations can take a minor issue and turn it into a major issue.
@playedout148 back when I had a job that required me to be in tune with business and the economy I read it all the time. It's been awhile since I read it regularly.
We need a new Bond movie soon! I personally would love if they did a trilogy that was a period piece back during the Cold War but I wouldn’t mind them staying in the modern timeline. But we need some more gadgets and a little bit of campiness.
As long there is money to be made out of the Bond franchise... we will get new Bond movies. So, I hope there will be some real news in the next months.
After I saw NTTD I wanted to file for Divorce from Hollywood. Except for John Wick 4 (which I loved), almost every movie in this now soon to be 5 year old decade has totally sucked.
I Seoul, John Wick, four in the theaters when it came out and the dragons breath shotgun seen literally blew me away. I was an all good god what a great movie.
If Amazon want to change Bond then EON has to walk away.. It is EON who have the upper hand because they have the rights to the franchise, so if Amazon don’t want to play along there'll probably be others to cooperate with. As you says so well “Bond is bigger than everything”. The franchise isn't dead just because a new era takes some time. The gap between Licence to Kill and GoldenEye were also long but the franchise got through it.
Bond is called to thwart a villain, meets a femme fatale, survives a series of action sequences, and eventually confronts a larger-than-life antagonist. While this formula worked for decades, the rise of unpredictable storytelling, intricate character arcs, and emotionally-driven plots in modern cinema has made Bond’s reliance on traditional tropes seem dated. Films like Skyfall attempted to break this mold, but even those efforts felt more like nostalgia-driven homage than true reinvention. After over 50 years of Bond films, the audience may simply be growing tired of the same spy drama. The character of Bond, and the stories around him, have remained relatively static over time. Newer generations may find the films formulaic, and the "spy thriller" genre has been expanded upon by other films and shows that add more depth or nuance to espionage and intelligence work.
I always expect we must wait 5 years, with September 2027 the 5 stil be in it because it is 5 years and 11 months. If filming not start in September 2026 then we should be worried because it take 1 year to film/post production. Pre production can be more then a year, so let we say we hear something in July next year. 20 years after Daniel Craig start.
I don't trust Amazon either. A lot of franchises are either damaged or on life support right now: Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. My fear has been the Broccoli's will sell to Amazon or another company.
While still founded in a more reliable source with WSJ, I still feel like this is someone looking to get there moment in the sun for attention. Releasing a statement like this about the Broccoli’s of course will get attention because it’s very out of character for their brand and image. Two Kingpins of the game having to work together will hash this out because they didn’t sign those contracts to sit around and not make moves and money together.
Unfortunately, "No Time to Die" does not feel like a James Bond movie. To be honest, I started to have this feeling from Spectre onwards. From that point, the producers began to lose control and handed it over to Daniel Craig. I have tried to watch and rewatch this last movie several times to give it more chances, but it remains subpar and does not resemble a James Bond film. Barbara's shock without Craig indicates that these producers no longer have the ability to continue with this franchise. I believe they will sell the rights to another party, hoping that the same fate will not befall them as it did with the Star Wars franchise. A progressive Amazon may struggle to manage the James Bond franchise effectively.
I'm not sure Barbara Broccoli is the heroine in this ongoing saga and difference of opinion, with Amazon films. She's the one that chose and fortified the entire Daniel Craig arc of films. Notwithstanding the ton of money that allegedly was made with his tenure as James Bond, I think he did a lot of damage to the idea and persona of James Bond - particularly when he insisted that he be killed off in the last film, followed by the stunningly stupid - 'James Bond Will Return' slogan at the end. Who knows how this will play out? The Amazons, Primes and Netflixes of this world cannot be considered good stewards of a very traditional '50s based spy, who's a red-blooded straight male.
Spot on. Barbara had the biggest crush on Craig, constantly gushing over him and letting him do whatever he wanted. She allowed him to trash the character for good.
@@jaysterling26 Are you kidding, he's making $100 million from the two knives out sequels-he's doing pretty well post Bond! Also regarding his predecessors 'classy' comments-a certain Sean Connery was very negative about Bond at times!
Man i had no idea how toxic some of your fans are thats super sad your an awesome guy. Whether its they didnt even read the article and have an opinion or randomly talking shit about NTTD. Its crazzzzy bro
Where are you getting that from? Not one comment is shitting on David, we're just not kissing Barbara's dusty puckered asshole and think it's ridiculous that anyone would approve of ol' thundercunt's destruction of 007.
I hope Amazon aren't like Microsoft, who buy in to rivals just to shut them down. A live franchise is a money pit, but a dead franchise is a money earner. There are two ways to look at assets, and to a monopoly like Amazon, they dont care about the top line, only the bottom line. EON were idiots to get involved with Amazon in the first place, but I think maybe Barbara wants to hang up her hat for the last time. Anyway, hope you have a Happy Christmas David. Here is your gift, and this is my favourite chapter of my book. [Scene 15] The ocean ripples gently, as mesmerising sun rays shimmer and dance in the water. There is a stillness, a softness. A place where time seems to have stood still for thousands of years. A slight wind and the waves create a soothing lullaby, as they gently stroke the beach. Tiny shrimps explore tidal rock pools, while crabs comb the beech, examining every tiny little artifact. Crystal azure waves foam gently on the sand; the pure white surf made almost invisible by the hot sun. Scented trees arch over an ebbing waterline, hardly caring to sway a leaf or twig. Ants investigate a weather-beaten wooden boat, which lies broken on the sand. A small lizard casually licks up a mouth full of the ants, and then quickly scurries for a shadow. It is the shadow of a man's arm dangling down. 42 days after jumping from the ocean liner, Bond washes up in a strange place; lulling itself to sleep with strange bird calls, water swirls, and random delirious noises. Is this heaven?, he wonders, as he lays there unable to move; - his crusted eyes closed, and his face now broken with salt and sun blisters. Suddenly, the sky grows very dark, as though the sun itself has been blotted out completely by a huge dark shadow. Another storm??? Adrenalin forces Bond to open one eye. A woman stands over him, smiling. "Well-cam to Jah-may-ikah!". A leather water bag is lowered down to his lips, and Bond almost drowns again as he consumes the liquid, coughing and spluttering. He lies on his back, broken, inside a broken boat, under the hot, hot sun, watching seagulls effortlessly caressing the blue sky above. After two weeks of recouperation, Bond is well enough to explore the garden outside of his life-saving British Medical Field Clinic. The friendly woman walks beside him, propping him up like a crutch. She points as they draw near to a large sunflower. "Dis is da Golden Eye," she explains, "it is said dat A man looking for Gold can find it here in Jah-may-ikah.". Presently, a man wearing a very loud shirt draws up in a taxi, and is directed towards the garden. "Hi there Buddy!, I'm looking for a Brit called Jaymes Bahnd?". Bond: "You can bet your sockless sandals you found him." "My name is Gaz Lighter, "Sharkey" to my friends, and this is my boy, Felix." The boy smiles a youthful toothless grin. Gaz: "I grew up in Texas, bud I'm based in Florida right now. They sent me dowwn here to help ya out. Have ya gad a weapon?, like.. a guuun?". Bond: "Yes. I have a gun." He pulls out the small hand gun which he took from the large galley cook aboard Hitlers' evacuation liner, before the poop deck exploded. "Here's a German-made pistol." Gaz: "Ahh Yeah, a Walther PP. Good luck trying to find ammo for one of those junkers Sonny. Around here, we use Colts! - regular 45's!". He pulls out a gun. "Mine's a bigger, AYND a more powerful bucket kicker than yours". Bond lifts and eyebrow to the sound of a slide whistle. Bond, smiling: "I don't doubt it". Gaz "Are ye ready ta go?" Bond "I SYURE AM, BOY!". [Video Game: Explore the beach whilst hallucinating as various small creatures. Learn how to shoot your German gun at GoldenEye with Gaz. Get the GoldenEye card].
Good and levelheaded video but that comparison at the end with The Golden Gun doesn't make any sense to me, Moore's Bond doesn't have ANY respect towards Scaramanga, he looks disgusted during the dinner and like he is barely contained from jumping across the table to beat him to a pulp. I hope that isn't whats going behind the scenes at Amazon.
So I can see this going two ways: Either they agree on something more in favor of Amazon which will be absolutely devastating for the Bond IP or they are going into a years long cold war and we get nothing.
I don´t think they have a bloody clue how they will continue. The main problem is that they killed him off, and yet we see the line "James Bond will return". Actors have come and gone. But the character actually died in NTTD. Will they clone him? Or will the next movie take place earlier in his life? I would love a retro Bond. But i doupt that would appeal to casual fans.
I agree you don’t need to call him just reboot it is that simple. You don’t need to worry about it. Dan Craig’s version was an interpretation. They’ll be a new actor and they go in different direction.
@@dtc7844True-they did Robert Pattinson's Batman the same time the DCU with Affleck was still going on and no one questioned it. The fact we've had things like 'Spiderman no way home' shows audiences will accept different continuities.
Hi David……. There is also the changing of the Guard 💂♀️…… Michael G wants to retire….. he’s well into his eighties….. Barbara is concentrating on Othello, Craig’s new opera???? Plus Chitty chitty bang bang is supposedly back for a remake…. Possibly starting Dick van Dyke ???? That will save money???? But the greatest thing about a new Bond film 🎥…….. Is the director!!!!! They had Terrance young before Connery!!! They had Peter Hunt before Lazenby!!! They had Guy Hamilton before Moore!!! They had John Glen before Dalton!!! And they had Martin Campbell before Brosnan & Craig!!!! So Barbara has to secure the director before a new James Bond!!!! Once the director is named….. we will get progress!!!! Yuletide felicitations 🎄 Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿🎄🎄🍸🍸
A few days ago, I watched(in UA-cam) Oliver Harper's retrospective review "The Spy Who Loved Me"(1977). What a great documentary! TSWLM(1977) IS THE ULTIMATE JAMES BOND FILM OF ALL TIME!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ * My Top-10 is: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1977, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1987, 1995. * Daniel Craig era was an unpleasant experience. Like wasted time, like a coma...
I don’t like 85 and 87 at all. Would be bottom of my list. Craig era are so variable, I love casino and skyfall, and no time to die is pretty good. The other two were not very good haha.
“Bond is not a hero, nor is he depicted as being very likable or admirable. He is a Secret Service Agent. He’s not a bad man, but he is ruthless and self-indulgent. He enjoys the fight- he also enjoys the prizes. In fiction people used to have blood in their veins. Nowadays they have pond water. My books are just out of step. But then so are all the people who read them.”
“I didn’t intend for Bond to be likable. He’s a blunt instrument in the hands of the government. He’s got vices and few perceptible virtues.” - Ian Fleming.
Bond isn’t meant to be a hero. People in that professional world are not heroic.
This exactly. I don’t believe Bind was ever meant to be a father or husband. I did enjoy OHMSS and that storyline was fine, especially with the ending. But in each of the Craig films, he seems to go soft for a woman. That immediately takes his edge away and hence his purpose as an assassin. He needs to be the shadow again. Ruthless.
@@Spook291 in an increasingly soft world… this is the type of male masculine character that needs to be brought back to the big screen; Connery and Brosnan, in my opinion, did it best.
I find it increasingly tiresome that Amazon seemingly has an influence on everything.
Have you noticed what Amazon did to the "content" of Lord of the Rings ???
Yes I did, completely made a pigs ear of it. Besides should step aside and let Eon do what they do best regards Bond.
Very good and important point you just made. Amazon isn't a real movie studio, just a streaming service for straight to video crap, mostly. They should have zero influence on the future of Bond.
Yeah the rings of power. Absolutely abysmal. Tolkien would be rolling in his grave.
James Bond isn’t a “modern man” that sort of modern audience stuff isn’t at all in accordance with the character.
@@jeffhreid Bond has always been contemporary. We shouldn’t let NTTD make us forget that Craig’s contemporary Bond worked very well in the first 4 movies.
Modern audiences aren’t going to accept a chain-smoker who sexually assaults people.
@@DHTCF But then they risk losing the audience built up since Dr No. There has to be midddle ground Casino Royale and Skyfall is as far as the compromise should go.
Unless going back in time with the movie written in the past and then Bond can behave as in that era. Bond is essentially a paid killer not a social worker and like it or not, no trained woman is better than a trained Man physically. Making a female 007 in NTTD was woke gone mad.
Bond doesnt sexually assault women in anycase, Female spies etc throw themselves at him to try to get information or set him up.
@@DHTCFno part of Fleming bond is “contemporary” lol in fact he is reactionary against modernism
Fleming Bond has the same views as Academic Agent essentially
Bond never smoked cigarettes in either the Brosnan or Moore eras, so that hasn’t been an issue for a good half-century. The sexual assault stuff pretty much ended with Connery.
My ideal Bond would be based strictly on the books, in the 1950s, conspiracy, espionage, sexyness, and a vintage festival of glamour, and style!
I would also love a retro Bond. I love Soviet history and diving back into that important time would be magical.
I agree. That's what I want to see.
Maybe not a movie but definitely a tv series (and before you say that “bond is for the big screen” bs, bond since CR in 1953 has appeared in all different art form over the years. Like for instance comic book, comic strip in the daily express, animated series even if it was a big mistake doomed to fail from the start, video games, radio dramas Etc.) since the bond franchise is all about “keeping up with the times and moving forward”. I still firmly believe that making it like the books and a period piece is more fit for a tv series rather than a movie.
@HijosDeMexico It has to have Bond, for me. I don't care about a Goldfinger prequel or the Felix Leiter adventures.
@mohammedashian8094 Bond is meant to be on the big screen. No one likes the original CR. And the rest exists because of the popularity of screen Bond.
I've had a long standing respect for Barbara, there's a lot of people wanting her job. She's confident enough not to be fooled. I trust the EON family totally. It's a Family Business.
Hope they can get their act together, and bring a Bond that stays true to the essence of the character.
It's been nearly 4 years since No Time to Die and they haven't even STARTED on a new script and supposedly there's been no auditions at all for the next Bond. In other words, there's been zero progress toward the next film. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if we reach the 10th anniversary of Craig Bond's explosive death before we get another film :(
Agreed. Get rid of the woke bullshit that has been creeping into the franchise.
They will the Americans can't push their agenda on us Europeans anymore. The last people alive during the Second World War have all almost passed away and they have no moral justification of subjugating us anymore considering how they have dehumanised Germans and Russians and pitted Western Europeans against Eastern Europeans.
@@g.manifestomsnifesto4338 Way to miss the point.
@@germancesaro9772 You're right my comment has zero validity on the current state of Bond, thank you for educating me.
As a Bond fan the problem is the longer this goes on is a real problem. Younger people are NOT fans and the fan base is getting older and smaller. There is a long history of dead movie franchises and the Bond might very well be one of them.
Bond was replaced four times. Five actors played Bond for over 6 decades. The franchise thrived despite the cultural shifts that occurred. The Bond franchise with the right writers and a new actor would have continued with the usual end credit tease, "James Bond will return..." Offing Bond ended the franchise.
@@encinobalboathe only problem with your point is...they had the same tag line at the end of NTTD.
Y'all need to quit being so dramatic.
Nonsense. It’s an archetype character that’s appealed for 70 years. The box office is still v.healthy on these films. Just needs a refresh and a new lead actor for the next decade.
@@encinobalboa we’re all willing to suspend our disbelief. We don’t watch Bond for gritty social realism. Best thing would be to just pretend NTTD never happened.
The answer to young people not being “fans” is, give them good films and they’ll become fans. None of us was born a fan. We can’t let fandom become some exclusive club with entry rituals. Forget bring-backery, forget the calls to “go back to the books” (decades out of date), Bond has never been a period character. Give us good, entertaining, stand-alone films, and we’ll keep watching and nee fans will join in.
Bingo. Half the decisions she makes are not to the betterment of the franchise, she likes sticking to a formula that half the time doesn't work and the rest of the time holds it up in stasis.
Personally, I’m glad this story was published. It will force the conversation about what the hell is going on with the Bond franchise. Not just the fanboys but the industry itself. There is way too much money on the table and clearly someone is taking their sweet time to get the engine going again.
watch the movie BABYLON - Directed by Damien Chazelle and it will give you a sort of idea what is currently happening in the industry
I don't know if it will. Maybe it's different internationally but in the UK we get Bond stories all the time [like linking actors to the role and touting the singer of the next song] so they kind of fade away quickly. The 'Aaron Taylor-Johnson' for Bond story for big for a couple of weeks but was swiftly forgotten for example.
She's right. These corporations have ruined so many franchises. You all would do well to appreciate the initial 25 movies and stop praying for some horrific Amazon Bond.
The worst part of No Time To Die was not the death, but 'James Bond will return'.
I don't trust Amazon to do anything short of turning Bond into a black lesbian.
@harryherman5371 well, Bond will always return, one way or another.
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Incels like you are the reason they don't want to bring Bond back. Men now are pathetic right wing victims who think 'woke' is a real thing, and not just a distraction propagated by billionaire owned right wing media to distract you from wealth inequality.
You see, morons these days don't deserve Bond.
Agreed. The "James Bond Will Return" at the end of NTTD is truly terrible. Once you kill Bond off, let him stay dead. No reboots.
I believe Eon did this to protect vulnerable fans.
Oh to be a fly on the wall in the room of Barbara reacting to this article!
I could totally see it being true. Amazon has been pushing a feministic agenda for quite a while.
They didn't care at all that the Lord of the Rings fanbase is not onboard with Rings of Power. Because Galadriel is a magical being much more than she is a warrior or general in the books and movies.
And I could totally see Amazon trying to push Eon to establish a strong female agent next to James Bond
that is better than him. And that can easily spark disaster, when you look at what LucasFilm has done to Star Wars.
Didn't NTTD wrap in 2019? And was suppose to come out 2020? So its been 5 years since it wrapped. And since there's no new script, director, hell, even an actor we're looking at at least 2-3 years minimum before next movie could be done. So it's reaching the longest hiatus for Bond in history.
I hope it doesn’t come back with a fa**y makeover
The original release date was November 2019. That was scrapped when Danny Boyle and John Hodge quit/or fired. NTTD was set for Feb 14th 2020. It was the same release date as Sonic the Hedgehog.
Then NTTD was delayed due to Covid-19.
The film was completed in autumn 2019 so it's five years of zero Bond film making. 2019 to 2024. It's now almost 2025 so the most realistic early release date is 2026 and that's very unlikely. 2027 more likely?
If there is litigation between Amazon and Eon then it's very likely to be a long gap between Bond 25 and 26.
Correct
Sad but true. Even if Eon announced tomorrow that they were going to start making the new movie, had a script, and had already cast an actor to play Bond, it would still be at least a year until the movie comes out in theaters. And that's obviously not going to happen. I think there's a good chance that the hiatus in between Bond 25 and 26 will be even longer than the one between Licence To Kill and GoldenEye. Broccoli and Wilson have just been so lethargic about Bond 26 that I can't see it coming out any time soon. Maybe Bond 26 will come out in 2026. I don't know.
@ but they put the story to bed in no time so why would they rush to wake up again, we are talking years until another one
My mind immediately goes to Star Wars and Disney when I hear Bond referred to as “content” by Amazon. It is not reassuring to me as a Bond fan..
But they did such a good job with Tolkien! 😐
I've always said when people say 'Eon should sell Bond'-look at Disney+ Star Wars and be careful what you wish for. It's only a big studio that could afford to take Bond on and at there main priority is pumping out content.
@@jamesatkinsonja EON shouldn’t sell it, but Amazon should if they don’t even like the character.
@@JRRob3wn I'd imagine it would be a similar situation-at least with seeing the franchise as 'content' if they went elsewhere.
I have no doubt, that if there's any truth to the WSJ article, in time, EON and Amazon will come to a reasonable compromise. And if there is some truth to the article, I must give gratitude and respect for Barbara Broccoli for sticking to her values and protecting the franchise. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Terminator, Alien, the DCU and the MCU all have one thing in common, they started with there core gems followed by a flood of mediocrity. Do we want that for Bond?
I hear you but I make executive decisions every day and clearly there is a lot of talk and no action with regards to the franchise. These are movies. I bet a half dozen Bond fans could figure all this out over a weekend
@@darkcircles1313 I seriously doubt it. if you are a executive you are obviously not a creative executive who needs to balance the core value of revenue for a business while dealing with artists/creatives and their creations. As person who works in the creative world and who has friends in the movie industry that is extremely complicated and can be extremely litigious. Things get killed fast or shelved for decades if the business side never comes to terms with the creative side.
If there’s any truth the article, ANY compromise with Amazon will mean the death of the franchise.
I would beg to differ on SW. The OT was never anything but self insert for white guys.
There is little to no room for compromise between Broccoli and Amazon. I'm not sure Amazon understands what exactly Broccoli is legally allowed to do with regards the portrayal of Bond. All she has the legal rights to do from the Fleming estate is to portray Fleming's literary character on screen. Bond on screen cannot deviate from Fleming's character. Even a black Bond would be breach of contract, and copyright infringement.
The Scaramanga tracksuit was perfect to illustrate your point, David. 🙌🏻
Nice catch, do you know the brand?
Orlebar Brown.
@@JohnDoe-tm9wz Thank you, I just made it to the part in the Video when David goes over it..
@@j-boy9256 You're welcome!
I thought it was from view to a kill when bond is in the stables
Enjoy your channel David. Merry Christmas early.
1-Re-releasing some of films in the theater would give us 007 fans some happiness and keep Bond relevant. 2-Would still love to see Pierce Brosnan back some how. 3-I keep telling my 12 year old son he could be the next 007 in the future, just finished "FYEO."
I like your positivity. Bond is Eons main product and they want to do it right. I think at the end of the day Amazon will want the £sd to roll in. Bond is after all still unique among franchises and a licence to print money
While I personally respect legacy media and the article about the Amazon/Broccoli 'feud' seems plausible, this week alone WSJ released an article about a European foreign policy issue which had to be dispelled by a Nordic president. So who knows how much truth there is in the article about Bond.
What comes to Bond IP, it should never become 'content' a la Star Wars.
Agree. A tv series would KILL Bond.
Agreed. I was big Star Wars fan, but after Last Jedi I made the decision not to watch any new Star Wars. There are probably some good Tv shows but Disney killed Star Wars char, that even prequel movies had. Don't wanna see some 50 soulless Bond shows.
I was initially annoyed with Barbara for not getting on with it but perhaps it's because she's defending the franchise from being invaded like other franchises have been. The only streaming Bond I would like is an animated version, perhaps each season based on a classic Bond movie or just inspired by it.
Um James Bond jr? (Which was a f'ing mistake to begin with).
I like the idea of doing the classic novels as animated movies or seasons! But otherwise, yeah I’m not too keen on spin off tv series.
The thing is while I shudder to think of what amazon would do, let's be frank that the reason she's pushing back is she wants it HER way, not necessarily what's best for the franchise or what anyone wants. Pretty much the only thing she's good for is stopping them from spinning it off, if amazon could be limited to one project a lot of us might even warm up to a tv show adapting the Fleming novels in order. She just wants more money and we'll see her same tired formula, Purvis and Wade writing again, some outdated attempt at the plot being "of the moment," her choice for lead, etc.
@@brentandrew2419OH I agree. Isn't that why Nolan walked? He wanted full control of the movie and she said no. All the people bashing Amazon ,need to step back and think about what a disaster NTTD was. IMost of it made no sense and came across as if it were made by a committee.
@@vittoriacolona Those Nolan stories haven't been confirmed by either party so there probably not true-I think post Oppenheimer he was always going to do another Universal project as they gave him what he wanted.
Barbara comes across as a sincere woman and she gave a revealing answer to your question, 'how often when you make those choices [about the future of the franchise] do you think about the fans and the Bond community?' She replied, 'We always think about...the fans in the respect that we want to make the best film possible...We make the films for the audiences'. She balanced this with the need to be brave and make choices, even if they're wrong. This sounds like a genuine concern for the curation of the franchise and suggests that she considers the audience in its broadest sense, not just the fan base, which I respect. But I wonder if she believed No Time To Die was the best possible Bond film
if Barbara believed NO TIME TO DIE was the best choice for a Bond film than she has lost her reason, and her judgment.
Huge huge fan of Daniel Craig 007 , especially Casino Royale , but disappointed in how things transpired in No Time to Die…especially his becoming a family man, death of Felix Leider, the other “007’, etc. stick with traditional 007, in fact Fleming’s 007 !
I don’t know why people have such an issue with the family man thing. It was only for one movie. Fleming gave Bond a child in the novels, so I don’t think this is out of the realm of Ian Fleming’s world of Bond.
In fairness Fleming gave Bond a child in 'You only live twice [with Kissy's Pregnancy] which he presumably was going to follow up if he'd been able to carry on and Bond says to Draco in OHMSS that he wants a family with Tracy before that's taken away from him so it was in Fleming's novels.
@@jamesatkinsonja yeah
I trust Babs. She's fierce and will always protect the character. I know some people weren't happy with Craig's interpretation, but he was the right Bond for the time and EON always knows where Bond needs to go, to keep this franchise alive. She's doing the right thing by taking time to make sure the next iterationof Bond is on point.
Nonsense. She is garbage. As is Daniel.
She killed the character!
@@4879daniel It doesn't matter. He's coming back. It was a risky move, and it actually brought back stakes for a character that was always presented as unkillable and impervious, It was a needed change, which probably won't happen again.
It does matter, it’s symbolic if nothing else because death is the end.
How is the death in any way a good thing for the series? It was a selfish wish of Craig.
True-whatever you think of the films there is no denying that the Craig films were very successful at the box office.
The literary Bond is growing in strength. Lots has come out recently with more next year.
I hope they figure things out and not distort the character. Keep 007 James Bond...not a female Bond, etc. If Amazon/Eon want to make a film with a female protagonist, I would enjoy watching a separate Paloma film. But keep 007 James Bond.
Great and interesting video David hopefully Eon and Amazon can work together to give us Bond 26 and give us a great new actor to play James Bond and an entertaining film
I second that! 👍
Can't see it.
When you look at how they ruined Lord of the Rings and Disney shat in the mouth of Star Wars I hold no hope whatsoever.
Don’t people realise that the Bond character is actually based on a former SAS soldier who worked independently during WWII and was only answerable to Churchill. The man was seriously deadly, the only man to have been awarded both the Military Cross and the Victoria Cross by the King himself.
I've always felt Bond was an idealised version of Fleming himself personally [especially as he airs many of his own opinions through Bond].
@@jamesatkinsonja and you would be right. But not only. James is based on Fleming personality indeed, but lots of other people, experiences, context in thrown in that mix.
The killing off of Bond in NTTD was a big misstep. I know it is and was purported to be Craig’s idea (and such is the danger of allowing the incumbent actor such free rein and say…).
It’s basically rendered the franchise like Dr Who now, with regenerations.
The character.. almost like the office of POTUS, should remain untouched, respected and unmolested. The incumbent individual.. you can think what you like. The killing off of Bond made Craig larger than the character, as if he ‘deserved’ to be the one to have this occur during his tenure, and no actor should be larger than the character, the canon, and Fleming’s original base material.
As many have said - it would never have happened under Cubby.
Danny Boyle I reckon refused to kill off Bond. Barbara and Craig’s love-in made it so.
He knew what a tailspin that would send the whole franchise into. And he was correct - if Skyfall was a high watermark, NTTD almost feels like a different universe, it doesn’t feel like a Bond film. I think Boyle needs to be given his creative freedom back and a fair crack of the whip again.
They should take Bond back to its roots and adapt the books exactly and in the time period they were written. Tarantino wanted to directly adapt Casino Royale and set it in the 60's. That would've been pretty cool.
Only problem with setting a movie in the 50's or 60's is the advertisement tie-ins---the absence of the latest smart phones being just one of them. Don't forget, a huge portion of the budget comes from advertising. Also, a retro movie would be made through a present-day lens, not a 1960 one.
I would prefer Bond like he was before Craig. Charming, charasmatic, witty. Casino was great, but I can’t just sit down and watch it through. Skyfall was incredible for me, more due to the gravitas Bardem brought to Silva. And Severin was great Bond girl, despite limited time on screen. Quantum, Spectre, NTTD I just don’t like. They each have cool momments though, and Paloma again limited screen time, but great character. Craig era was more like Bourne films to me. I want a good villain, henchman, Bond girls, gadgets etc.
Yeah her instincts were horrible and we were stuck with a choice that she liked that was by no means the world's favor like Pierce was. Craig wasn't bad- particularly in the beginning- but let's be honest there's a dozen actors who could've done it just as well if not better. I would've personally preferred Bale was Bond rather than Batman.
I agree. The Craig films felt more like Bourne than Bond. I hope with Craig's successor they'll make the first Bond film since 2002. Even Dead Reckoning Part One felt more like Bond than Craig's ones.
@@ivanivez7456 They stopped being like Bourne after Quantum and moved on to more Nolan inspired from Skyfall onwards.
Ian Fleming described his agent, 007 James Bond, to be: 185 cm tall (approx. 6'2), dark hair and grey-blue eyes. Connery - check, Lazenby - check, Moore - almost check (but good enough), Dalton - check, Brosnan - check, Craig - NOT SO MUCH. He's a good actor, apart from that weird mouth/face he puts up, but the "americanization" of the British character is just so damaging. PLEASE go back to the roots, make Bond great again!
He must be British, suave, a womanizer, NOT political correct, and he must make fun of the Americans as well as the Russians (ref. the "You only live twice" pre-title sequence): "We don't agree. Her Majesty's government is not convinced that this intruder missile originated from Soviet-Russia. Our tracking station in Singapore reported faint echoes of this craft coming down in the sea of Japan area. Might I suggest gentlemen that this is where you should concentrate your intelligence forces. The Prime Minister has asked me to assure you that this is what we propose to do. It's a matter of fact; our man in Hong Kong is working on it now....."
AND - after he was "working on it", he was "killed".... Was he? No, the mummified Bond was alive when he entered the submarine. I guess he wasn't killed in "No Time To Die" either... I hope we comes alive as a classic, British Bond again.
The reason for the six years gap after Licence was the corporate side, not EON (and the article gets it wrong/leaves it out). EON only has 50% control of cinematic Bond after Harry Saltzman sold his half. I do still think EON got into some bad habits with the Craig era of films but I trust them over Amazon all day erryday. See what Amazon did to Tolkien and think what they'd do to Ian Fleming if they had full control.
Well... while EON and Amazon could be at an impasse, the next James Bond entry will be a video game by IO Interactive, the makers of HITMAN.
Thanks David for providing some helpful Context and some calm to the discussion! Of course its a challenge to reboot JB into a new era, but having a hugely popular franchise at stake should bring everybodys fokus back on how Best to create a big comeback for 007… might take a few years though…
LOL I was so waiting for this episode!!!! I knew you comment on this WSJ piece!!! Thank you!
As for the article I am sure the WSJ sourced their piece well and their reputation for award winning journalism lends credibility to the article. I don't doubt that their is friction as Amazon is a content creator. They have a streaming network that needs content and what better source to draw from than the Bond franchise.
BB probably chafes at that "content" term for she most likely believes that she is a creator of art/cinema and the word content screams PROLIFERATION AND PROPAGATION...basically milking products for all that it's worth. BB treats her franchise as a creative jewel that should never be over stretched. Sure you have merchandising but Bond has never over saturated the market like other franchises like SW or ST or DC or Marvel. BB treats Bond with care and realizes that Bond should be appreciated in small doses. Something a behemoth content creator like Amazon might not appreciate.
It's a shame really. it's obviously not a death knell for Bond. BB wants the franchise to exist far in the future. But until Amazon and BB can work out their differences the longer it will take for the next Bond to be released. And that would definitely eliminate my favorite choice...Henry Caville. He's not getting younger and he may have already aged out. But a longer delay will definitely not be in his favor.
Excellent summary..
Also love the new follow up where you aren't 25! 😃
The more I think of the WSJ article, the more suspect I am of it. Though I haven't agreed with all of Barbara's decisions as a fan, I respect her ans feel she has given us better decisions than any studio would have. I have thought since Daniel finished that it would be a long period of adjusting where they go after. When they are ready, I'll be ready. I don't think this article will play into the reality of when work on the next film starts.
OHMSS nailed it. Perfect fusion of Ian and EON 007.
I think the damage was done when they decided on a through narrative for the Craig era. Casino was a wonderful film about Bond coming into "the life" and it should have been left there and reverted to him just being a fantastical glamorous and exciting avatar to vicariously inhabit for a couple of escapist hours. He is and does everything we'd like to be and do but aren't and can't. We falter in adversity, he doesn't. We moan, he doesn't. We weaken, age and become less important, he doesn't. But we walk out of the film with a bit of a spring in our step because in our imagination we've "lived him" a little while. They've made the same mistake as with every other franchise these days - it's not supposed to be bldy Proust.
Proust does Bond! Some Bond childhood flashbacks/memories would be interesting to see. But seriously, I have to agree with your overall sentiment about the throughline narrative of the Craig movies, in particular because much of it seemed retconned (is that the right word?) during Spector - laughably so at times - the pictures of past villains as Bond enters M16 at the end of Spector to have his glass partitioned tête-à-tête with brother Blofeld comes to mind.
A man on an individualized mission is formula, no doubt, but it's a formula that worked so well. Hints of Bond's past were always in the movies, albeit in very small doses - XXX reminding Bond of his former wife, Bond visiting Tracy's grave in For Your Eyes Only, recurring characters like General Gogol or Zukovsky. I would have preferred a slight amping up of continuity in characters, small references to past events etc., but still have Bond pick up new assignments that are unconnected by some large overarching conspiracy put into motion by your long-lost step? brother who also happens to be #1 in the largest and/or most formidable criminal syndicate in the world. How about stopping a charismatic heroin (fentanyl?) dealer who moonlights as a Papa Doc like dictator in a 3rd world country? Or some elite hitman turned energy tycoon looking to mothball some recent energy breakthrough for the right price? Could be interesting . . .
Were in the cinematic universe era and serialised storytelling was dominating TV [especially the streaming era] so it's no surprise they went for a through narrative. Mission Impossible used to be episodic but even that has gone serialised in recent installments. The Dark Knight trilogy taking Batman from his origins to his retirement/end probably cemented it.
@@jamesatkinsonja I think modern creatives crave the prestige and money from big popular pretty straightforward franchises but regard actually producing them as beneath them.
Sad truth being that they tend to intellectualise trivia and trivialise intellect because they don't genuinely understand and appreciate the nature and strengths of either.
@@Pooter-it4yg Nolan is one of the most acclaimed and respected directors around and he did the 'Dark Knight' series.
Casino could have been the start of a whole new era for Bond. Unfortunately it was a flash in the pan with everything that followed going progressively down hill. As for NTTD I can't believe that the script ever made it into production. As for Amazon I'm sure they would do for Bond what Disney did for Star Wars.
I couldn’t agree more. NTTD was an atrocity overall, but the script is truly shocking. It’s completely incoherent and nonsensical. 1 hour and 15 minutes into the movie, when Bond was on a badly rendered cartoon boat, I paused it and asked my wife “What the hell is the plot of this movie?” She had no idea either.
@JRRob3wn Sad really. It's not that Bonds license to print money has been revoked but it will take Barbara's skill, determination and commitment to renew it.
@@TALKCalgary She clearly has no idea what she’s doing. Most of the Brosnan films are mediocre at best, but at least they followed the basic formula. Her interviews make my head hurt. She’s really no better than these Amazon people. She’s open to a gay Bond FFS.
It very much had a similar feel to Rise of Skywalker. Lots of retcon and nostalgia.
Compared to NTTD, Brosnan movies' sins are just 90s' weirdness...
Thank you David.
I’m left thinking what would Bond do? He would “move on” from Amazon. Maybe go independent…
Love the 60th watch btw - It’s taken me a while, but I’ve just picked mine up a few days ago.😊
Merry Christmas.
To hell with 21st century bond.
I agree. Take him back to the years where Bond was Bond.
Agree. I liked Craig as a Bond for this century, but everything derailed in NTTD. Back to the past or nothing.
@@andyheller2691 Calvin Dyson rightly said that won't happen as it will be very expensive and probably won't have mass appeal as show by Man from Uncle and 'The Kingsman bombing
I too will just wait and see. As of now I don't miss a new Bond movie. I enjoy all the expanded soundtracks from Lala Land records.
Btw in 2025 its the 30th anniversary of GoldenEye and we might just see an expanded version of that soundtrack.
Would it be possible for The Bond experience to interview Eric Serra?
Great job, David. . . . so much controversy going on and so many rumors. This will work out . . . eventually.
I think the Bond franchise is over now.
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Well that’s a dopey thing to think about 😊
I think so too. It's over
I wonder how many times over the last sixty years that kind of statement has been uttered probably at least four or five times at different times.
I'm just here to say I noticed the new ending stinger, David - excellent and much cleaner upgrade! Love the channel.
There is no future. I don't expect any more Bond movies.
There will be “Bond” films, but they will be made for “modern audiences.” It’s dead.
To quote Calvin Dyson 'As long as people value making money, they'll still want to make Bond content'...
Amazon are looking to bring back Robocop which hasn't had a movie since 2014 [or a decent project since the original...]
I recently watched the documentary again, chronicling Daniel Craig’s casting and rise to Bond fame. The passion and love for the character expressed by both the cast and creative team behind the films is the reason they were so successful. It’s disheartening to see the disconnect taking place. BB knows what she’s doing. I really hope they work this out and we get the next Bond/film we deserve.
I certainly agree that there was a lot talent and passion producing the Craig era films. But when they interviewed Craig following the release of Spectre, he sounded like Sean Connery after YOLT- burned out and done! I would have preferred that Eon took Daniel at his word and rebooted the franchise with someone else. Instead they invested several years on another Craig film where Bond is blown to bits!
@@tomchris60 True. Though the film has grown on me. Just as we never question the character seemingly ageless living in his prime since the 60s, we’ll get used to another reboot of the character. That is if they get their act together.
This was a good general analysis of the latest goings on in the production of the future Bond films. David has some additional insight with his interviews with the Eon owning family of the franchise. All I can say is though I believe we are losing movie goers' interest as time passes between Bond 25 and 26 and the aging of fans, and the films now at the extreme fringes of movie viewers but once a new Bond film is released, I believe it will be an enormous event again. If a large percentage of the Bond being barely mediocre hasn't killed the franchise, then Daniel Craig's last outing isn't either.
I just wanted to throw this into the mix. Amazon made Rings Of Power, supposedly respecting the source. As a LOTR fan, nope. I could see them trying to do something similar with Bond. Which as an equally huge fan of Bond, I would hate
Also, when listening to the Journal podcast, it was clear both the interviewer and person who wrote the article did not know much of anything regarding the James Bond series and the business of Eon Productions business model and how the films are produced. Makes me wonder if Amazon was trying to get a story out there to produce Bond fans to "demand" a new film
Thanks for the video, David! I can relate to all you're saying. As a huge James Bond fan I will always hold dear to our beloved 'anti'hero!! Hope to meet you some day and have a chat about our favorite common character.
Barbara and Michael have been neglect in their stewardship of the franchise. It is now evident that Casino Royale’s success can be directly attributed to Martin Campbell and Paul Haggis. Listening to Barbara talk about Bond is like listening to Kathleen Kennedy talk about Star Wars. The Eon heirs have earned nothing!!!!!!!
From what I've read about the contract between Eon and Fleming's estate, all Broccoli is allowed to is keep true to the Bond character as written in Fleming's books. Anything else would be breach of contract and copyright infringement, which would result in Eon being sued for bazillions in court.
There's been plenty of Bond movies that don't use any of Fleming's material at all [''You only live twice' was the first that had virtually nothing in common with the book] including Bond's behaviour even early films would use Fleming's material however they liked [for example Henderson in Flemings 'You only live twice' is a brash Australian who survives the novel while the movie version is a polite Englishman who dies after one scene]. They own Fleming's material but they can do pretty much whatever they want with it-James Bond Jr being a prime example [the book copyright holders only insisted no Book only material featured but otherwise weren't bothered], much like any IP [The Bourne films for example have virtually no connection to the films].
@@jamesatkinsonja The material isn't what Broccoli is legally beholden per se. As I understand it, Eon has the rights to show Fleming's literary character, as described in the novels, on screen. The storylines for films can be based on Fleming's novels, or can be brand new stories. The latter has been the case since at least GoldenEye. My assumption is that as Bond is described in Fleming's novels as a white man, Broccoli cannot have a black actor playing Bond. All the press clamor for Idris Elba was deliberate woke nonsense.
@@jivebunny3765 I don't want to get into culture war stuff but given Felix and Moneypenny have been 'race swapped' and M was gender swapped there is clearly no such restrictions. Ian Fleming Publications is certainly not going to sue to 'keep Bond White'...
David, what do you think about the copyright issues of 007 that will come 2034/5/6 ?
I fear for the future of Bond. I’m starting to think…’Why not just stay dead’ 😢
He is a fictional character, fictional characters never stay dead. They just go dormant for a while.
All good things must come to an end. I'm big fan and I've seen every 007 movie in their theatrical releases, but maybe a domesticated dead Bond is as far as it should go. In any event, I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over the veracity of The Wall Street Journal. There are still plenty of pulp heroes to explore that would excite movie goers if there was a startup with the kind of flair and style that James Bond had.
I want to see a young bond set during WW2 that goes on the flourish during the cold war. It would be great to find a great, young actor that will portray him from something like 1942 to 1962. I would be happy to see them go back and revisit some of Fleming's novels and treat them seriously as they were written.
I agree wholeheartedly. But it HAS to be a tv series (bond appeared in different art forms since CR in 1953. So don’t give me that argument). Also it should be its own continuity and timeline of the books and have absolutely NO connection to the films. That way they don’t have to worry about connection (not that they were ever good at it. They were atrocious 🤣).
Won’t happen, product placement is big business for Bond.
@@4879danielMost of the brands in the product placements have been around for over 100 years, but I’m sure these brands want to push new products, not retro reissues.
@@4879daniel Exactly. It would also have loads of CGI in it to achieve the period setting and wouldn't be 'true to the text' as it's still a 2020's product.
My fantasy would be having the Fleming books and stories done straight, in the period they were written in. It would be great premium television and would obviously be a prestige product for Amazon/MGM. A similar thing was done with The Ipcress File. This would feature a Bond that we've never seen, a human rather than a near superhero. Most of those stories were never told and there wouldn't be the pressure to make them bigger than need be as a feature would demand.
They've done that with the Toby Stephen's radio series but most have been adapted at this point either pretty faithfully-Goldfinger, Casino Royale, From Russia with love etc-even if it's parts in other projects-Live and Let Die inspired sequences in 'For Your eyes only' [the keelhaul sequence] and Licence to Kill [the shark attack]and Moonraker being an inspiration for Die Another Day [respected millionaire with an invention which he's secretly using for sinister purposes].There isn't that much that hasn't been adapted in some form and the ones left e wouldn't work as films/TV-Diamonds are forever has Bond bemoaning that the mission is dull and beneath him at lot! The books are also pretty short so extra material would have to be added [as they often were to get them to 2hour film length, let along a 6+ hour series].
@@jamesatkinsonja I think that the way the Bosch books or The Last kingdom series have been adapted would work. A season generally adapts 2 novels. In the case of Bond, various short stories can be woven in as well.
The earliest we will see another film is 2027 - 8 years from the previous film
Hi David and Community. I was fed up with all of this, literally. But it dawned on me that, in order to create something big, an artist has to meet the Zeitgeist. Every big album, every Song, every movie, has managed to ride the wave and exist within the vibe of its time. If you would bang out the Floodland Album of The Sisters of Mercy, or the Street Fighting Years album of Simple Minds, now, they would have existed collecting dust in the shelves of record stores (which, due to the Zeitgeist, do not exist in that quantity and size anymore). Same for a movie character. I really do not know what I would suggest for a Bond in 2025. But every great Artist senses the necessity of letting time go by without a release. Because otherwise the greatness would just be erased. And this is why these things are so big. Never has it been so difficult to reflect the Zeitgeist for a Bond character than today. As a fan, it really is not pleasurable. But perhaps, necessary to make us wait. Kudos to Barbara. And it took time to realize it. And David, This might be one of your best episodes.
It’d be interesting if Bond had it’s villain spin offs. I made a fun fan fiction “trailer” of what I imagine Max Zorin and May Day’s long lost child would be up to now 40 years after their deaths, from unused outtake footage from a photoshoot with my new camera 😂 I cut my hair during quarantine and Grace Jones was my inspo. Maybe Bond could focus less on 007 and more on the villains like Batman did with The Joker.
I only take that article so seriously,. It is best for Eon to wait until the next MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE film comes out and the Superhero genre mess settles (the new SUPERMAN should start fixing that disaster) before they restart Bond for the fourth time after LIVING DAYLIGHTS, GOLDENEYE and CASINO ROYALE. Amazon/MGM/UA should just back them up with the biggest budget they ever had and promote it in every way, shape and form possible. Thank you for yet another excellent, outstanding video!
12 minutes in before the narrator gets to the point. A bit too much waffle in this one.
Hey david, what if broccoli doesnt want to make a film with amazon because theyd rather do a tv series and stop the film series? How would you feel if they wanted to take bond to streaming instead? I think bond should stay in theaters and released physically.
Amazon have and success with Jack Ryan and Reacher on streaming [and there promoting Paramount Plus' 'The Agency']. I'd rather Bond remained a movie franchise but maybe with a spin off TV series if a Paloma/Wai Lin style break out character immerge.
Pretty much exactly what I said to Jodie this morning. Thanks for the reinforcement 🙂
I don't believe that this is the "death knell" either, David, but...for a long time now, it seems that the producers have been afraid to move on from Craig. Perhaps they became too emotionally attached to him for their own good. He was a great Bond, but he is not the be all end all of the franchise. Picking the new Bond is an extremely important decision, no doubt, but it shouldn't be this hard.
With all that being said, I'm glad that they're not rushing it just for the sake of making a film. None of us want Bond to turn into what Star Wars has become, but perhaps it's inevitable. I guess it doesn't really matter if they make a bunch of pointless Amazon Prime "content" as long as the main film series is good. They best not wait too long, though, or they will completely lose the younger generation.
My issue here is that Amazon has done a really good job in the so-called Dad TV genre, which is where James Bond fits. Amazon has done amazing things with shows like Bosch, Reacher, Jack Ryan, and The Terminal List. My instincts are telling me this disagreement is less about the direction of the franchise and more about money and control.
Whether you enjoyed Daniel Craig’s era or not, it was likely EON’s only chance to delve deeply into James Bond’s character arc, offering a clear beginning, middle, and end. I sincerely hope they resolve whatever is causing delays in the series, but let’s hope the legendary status of these action films remains untarnished by the kind of “woke” decisions that have arguably hurt franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars.
It's interesting that publicly Amazon stated fairly recently that they are fine with Eon taking there time to develop Bond 26 and Amazon+ Eon announced they were doing a reboot of 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang' just the other week so this feels very contradictory, especially as there is no signs that Bond 26 is in any sort of production [which is worth remembering anytime a 'favour of the week is going to be Bond' article appears].
The only reason I didn’t walk out of NTTD was that I kept hoping that somehow they would put out the dumpster fire and rescue the movie, but they didn’t. I have very little confidence that they can rescue the franchise.
I'm sorry to say this, however; I feel as though the DEI department at Amazon would destroy our beloved character. On a side note David, it would be wonderful to have a video diving into James Bond philosophy. Just thinking of future infotainment. ;)
The Broccoli’s are already openly flirting with DEI-ing Bond, so I have little faith in the future of the franchise.
The 'black lady 007' and 'gay Q' were testing the waters. I fully expect anything made in our days to be way worse than that.
I do think the best move for Bond would be a period film, or series. 1960s era.
Calvin Dyson rightly said he doesn't think that will happen as it will be extremely expensive [and CGI heavy] while losing the product placement. The Man from Uncle and The Kingsman flopping doesn't suggest general audience would be interested either. It's also going to look inauthentic compared to the Connery films made in the 60's.
I agree with many here that Bond that should go back to its roots, and have a retro Bond that's close to the books and set in the 50's/60's during the height of the Cold War. Have a focus on espionage, glamor, spying, sexiness, and good old fashioned fun.
Amazon is knee deep in DEI, and I wouldn't be suprised if she's politically clashing and becoming controlled by it a tad more than she (Barbara) would like. DEI can be insanely restricting on a creative level. It's evidant in Rings of Power, Die Another Day, Wheel of Time, and several other original shows. As a 50 year old, life long Bond fan, this terrifies me about Bond's future. I feel like, until they figure things out, EON should settle for a M+ rated animated show that could run for a few seasons, and serve as fan service to keep us drooling for the next film.
Do you listen to interviews with Barbara? I don't think a woke agenda would bother her. I doubt that's what the problem is. And while I'm not a fan of Amazon, they have been respectful of Lee Child's Reacher. No woke BS in that series.
@philipmccracken697 Talking to the press and what goes on behind the scenes are very different things, and that was for the Die Another Day hype train, nut current events.
Feel like both sides are villains. B. Broccoli was ok with having Craig do whatever he wanted, and he obviously didn't respect the franchise. She and Michael Wilson allowed them to kill Bond. Now, as some have said, Amazon isn't respectful to the heritage of stories or the consistency of narrative with what they purchase. Lord of the rings, for example. But whose fault was it to sell the Blnd IP!
Albert R. "Cubby" Broccoli was a great leader! He was THE BOSS. Sadly, after his death, everything began to fall apart. Quietly but surely. Especially in the Daniel Craig era. Barbara and Michael have not made good decisions. The last movie NTTD(2021) was terrible: Bond was almost a depressed psychopath, Bond became a father, Bond died. WTF was that!?!?!?😠
I was willing to give the article some credence as it's The Wall Street Journal not some rag mag. But I've been around a bit and know that even reputable news organizations can take a minor issue and turn it into a major issue.
WSJ ain't what it used to be.
@playedout148 back when I had a job that required me to be in tune with business and the economy I read it all the time. It's been awhile since I read it regularly.
We need a new Bond movie soon! I personally would love if they did a trilogy that was a period piece back during the Cold War but I wouldn’t mind them staying in the modern timeline. But we need some more gadgets and a little bit of campiness.
As long there is money to be made out of the Bond franchise... we will get new Bond movies. So, I hope there will be some real news in the next months.
After I saw NTTD I wanted to file for Divorce from Hollywood. Except for John Wick 4 (which I loved), almost every movie in this now soon to be 5 year old decade has totally sucked.
I Seoul, John Wick, four in the theaters when it came out and the dragons breath shotgun seen literally blew me away. I was an all good god what a great movie.
If Amazon want to change Bond then EON has to walk away.. It is EON who have the upper hand because they have the rights to the franchise, so if Amazon don’t want to play along there'll probably be others to cooperate with. As you says so well “Bond is bigger than everything”. The franchise isn't dead just because a new era takes some time. The gap between Licence to Kill and GoldenEye were also long but the franchise got through it.
Bond is called to thwart a villain, meets a femme fatale, survives a series of action sequences, and eventually confronts a larger-than-life antagonist. While this formula worked for decades, the rise of unpredictable storytelling, intricate character arcs, and emotionally-driven plots in modern cinema has made Bond’s reliance on traditional tropes seem dated. Films like Skyfall attempted to break this mold, but even those efforts felt more like nostalgia-driven homage than true reinvention.
After over 50 years of Bond films, the audience may simply be growing tired of the same spy drama. The character of Bond, and the stories around him, have remained relatively static over time. Newer generations may find the films formulaic, and the "spy thriller" genre has been expanded upon by other films and shows that add more depth or nuance to espionage and intelligence work.
I always expect we must wait 5 years, with September 2027 the 5 stil be in it because it is 5 years and 11 months. If filming not start in September 2026 then we should be worried because it take 1 year to film/post production. Pre production can be more then a year, so let we say we hear something in July next year. 20 years after Daniel Craig start.
I don't trust Amazon either. A lot of franchises are either damaged or on life support right now: Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. My fear has been the Broccoli's will sell to Amazon or another company.
While still founded in a more reliable source with WSJ, I still feel like this is someone looking to get there moment in the sun for attention. Releasing a statement like this about the Broccoli’s of course will get attention because it’s very out of character for their brand and image. Two Kingpins of the game having to work together will hash this out because they didn’t sign those contracts to sit around and not make moves and money together.
Unfortunately, "No Time to Die" does not feel like a James Bond movie. To be honest, I started to have this feeling from Spectre onwards. From that point, the producers began to lose control and handed it over to Daniel Craig. I have tried to watch and rewatch this last movie several times to give it more chances, but it remains subpar and does not resemble a James Bond film. Barbara's shock without Craig indicates that these producers no longer have the ability to continue with this franchise. I believe they will sell the rights to another party, hoping that the same fate will not befall them as it did with the Star Wars franchise. A progressive Amazon may struggle to manage the James Bond franchise effectively.
I'm not sure Barbara Broccoli is the heroine in this ongoing saga and difference of opinion, with Amazon films.
She's the one that chose and fortified the entire Daniel Craig arc of films.
Notwithstanding the ton of money that allegedly was made with his tenure as James Bond, I think he did a lot of damage to the idea and persona of James Bond - particularly when he insisted that he be killed off in the last film, followed by the stunningly stupid - 'James Bond Will Return' slogan at the end.
Who knows how this will play out?
The Amazons, Primes and Netflixes of this world cannot be considered good stewards of a very traditional '50s based spy, who's a red-blooded straight male.
Karma is paying back Mr Craig so far in his post Bond films and his Bond comments during his tenure just made his predecessors even more classy.
Spot on. Barbara had the biggest crush on Craig, constantly gushing over him and letting him do whatever he wanted. She allowed him to trash the character for good.
@@jaysterling26 Are you kidding, he's making $100 million from the two knives out sequels-he's doing pretty well post Bond!
Also regarding his predecessors 'classy' comments-a certain Sean Connery was very negative about Bond at times!
Paraphrase Cubby "When in doubt go back to Fleming"
Barb and Mike Hold Fast!
Maintain the Legacy
But remember Fleming's works
Thank you David
Bravo David 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
Man i had no idea how toxic some of your fans are thats super sad your an awesome guy. Whether its they didnt even read the article and have an opinion or randomly talking shit about NTTD. Its crazzzzy bro
Welcome to “fandoms”. You think this is bad? You haven’t seen STAR WARS (or you probably did. In which case forget what I said).
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"Everything that disagrees with me is toxic."
@@TheGrenadier97 do you read?
Where are you getting that from? Not one comment is shitting on David, we're just not kissing Barbara's dusty puckered asshole and think it's ridiculous that anyone would approve of ol' thundercunt's destruction of 007.
They do it without any thought of their bank accounts. They are so gracious.
nice to hear more optimism around this article. Until anything is official it is just gossip.
I hope Amazon aren't like Microsoft, who buy in to rivals just to shut them down. A live franchise is a money pit, but a dead franchise is a money earner. There are two ways to look at assets, and to a monopoly like Amazon, they dont care about the top line, only the bottom line. EON were idiots to get involved with Amazon in the first place, but I think maybe Barbara wants to hang up her hat for the last time. Anyway, hope you have a Happy Christmas David. Here is your gift, and this is my favourite chapter of my book.
[Scene 15]
The ocean ripples gently, as mesmerising sun rays shimmer and dance in the water. There is a stillness, a softness. A place where time seems to have stood still for thousands of years. A slight wind and the waves create a soothing lullaby, as they gently stroke the beach. Tiny shrimps explore tidal rock pools, while crabs comb the beech, examining every tiny little artifact. Crystal azure waves foam gently on the sand; the pure white surf made almost invisible by the hot sun. Scented trees arch over an ebbing waterline, hardly caring to sway a leaf or twig. Ants investigate a weather-beaten wooden boat, which lies broken on the sand. A small lizard casually licks up a mouth full of the ants, and then quickly scurries for a shadow. It is the shadow of a man's arm dangling down.
42 days after jumping from the ocean liner, Bond washes up in a strange place; lulling itself to sleep with strange bird calls, water swirls, and random delirious noises. Is this heaven?, he wonders, as he lays there unable to move; - his crusted eyes closed, and his face now broken with salt and sun blisters. Suddenly, the sky grows very dark, as though the sun itself has been blotted out completely by a huge dark shadow. Another storm??? Adrenalin forces Bond to open one eye. A woman stands over him, smiling. "Well-cam to Jah-may-ikah!". A leather water bag is lowered down to his lips, and Bond almost drowns again as he consumes the liquid, coughing and spluttering. He lies on his back, broken, inside a broken boat, under the hot, hot sun, watching seagulls effortlessly caressing the blue sky above.
After two weeks of recouperation, Bond is well enough to explore the garden outside of his life-saving British Medical Field Clinic. The friendly woman walks beside him, propping him up like a crutch. She points as they draw near to a large sunflower. "Dis is da Golden Eye," she explains, "it is said dat A man looking for Gold can find it here in Jah-may-ikah.". Presently, a man wearing a very loud shirt draws up in a taxi, and is directed towards the garden. "Hi there Buddy!, I'm looking for a Brit called Jaymes Bahnd?". Bond: "You can bet your sockless sandals you found him." "My name is Gaz Lighter, "Sharkey" to my friends, and this is my boy, Felix." The boy smiles a youthful toothless grin. Gaz: "I grew up in Texas, bud I'm based in Florida right now. They sent me dowwn here to help ya out. Have ya gad a weapon?, like.. a guuun?". Bond: "Yes. I have a gun." He pulls out the small hand gun which he took from the large galley cook aboard Hitlers' evacuation liner, before the poop deck exploded. "Here's a German-made pistol." Gaz: "Ahh Yeah, a Walther PP. Good luck trying to find ammo for one of those junkers Sonny. Around here, we use Colts! - regular 45's!". He pulls out a gun. "Mine's a bigger, AYND a more powerful bucket kicker than yours". Bond lifts and eyebrow to the sound of a slide whistle. Bond, smiling: "I don't doubt it". Gaz "Are ye ready ta go?" Bond "I SYURE AM, BOY!". [Video Game: Explore the beach whilst hallucinating as various small creatures. Learn how to shoot your German gun at GoldenEye with Gaz. Get the GoldenEye card].
Good and levelheaded video but that comparison at the end with The Golden Gun doesn't make any sense to me, Moore's Bond doesn't have ANY respect towards Scaramanga, he looks disgusted during the dinner and like he is barely contained from jumping across the table to beat him to a pulp.
I hope that isn't whats going behind the scenes at Amazon.
So I can see this going two ways: Either they agree on something more in favor of Amazon which will be absolutely devastating for the Bond IP or they are going into a years long cold war and we get nothing.
I don´t think they have a bloody clue how they will continue. The main problem is that they killed him off, and yet we see the line "James Bond will return". Actors have come and gone. But the character actually died in NTTD. Will they clone him? Or will the next movie take place earlier in his life? I would love a retro Bond. But i doupt that would appeal to casual fans.
Just reboot it-simple!
I agree you don’t need to call him just reboot it is that simple. You don’t need to worry about it. Dan Craig’s version was an interpretation. They’ll be a new actor and they go in different direction.
@@dtc7844True-they did Robert Pattinson's Batman the same time the DCU with Affleck was still going on and no one questioned it. The fact we've had things like 'Spiderman no way home' shows audiences will accept different continuities.
Hi David……. There is also the changing of the Guard 💂♀️…… Michael G wants to retire….. he’s well into his eighties…..
Barbara is concentrating on Othello, Craig’s new opera????
Plus Chitty chitty bang bang is supposedly back for a remake….
Possibly starting Dick van Dyke ????
That will save money????
But the greatest thing about a new Bond film 🎥……..
Is the director!!!!!
They had Terrance young before Connery!!!
They had Peter Hunt before Lazenby!!!
They had Guy Hamilton before Moore!!!
They had John Glen before Dalton!!!
And they had Martin Campbell before Brosnan & Craig!!!!
So Barbara has to secure the director before a new James Bond!!!!
Once the director is named….. we will get progress!!!!
Yuletide felicitations 🎄
Regards Ian 👨🎤🇳🇿🎄🎄🍸🍸
None of this matters anyway, Bond died in the last one :P Seriously though, good on Barbara for sticking with her principles on this.
A few days ago, I watched(in UA-cam) Oliver Harper's retrospective review "The Spy Who Loved Me"(1977). What a great documentary! TSWLM(1977) IS THE ULTIMATE JAMES BOND FILM OF ALL TIME!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ * My Top-10 is: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1977, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1985, 1987, 1995. * Daniel Craig era was an unpleasant experience. Like wasted time, like a coma...
I don’t like 85 and 87 at all. Would be bottom of my list. Craig era are so variable, I love casino and skyfall, and no time to die is pretty good. The other two were not very good haha.
Didnt Bond die in the last film?