Making James Bond Fun & Entertaining | Give The People What They Want
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Creating a fun and entertaining James Bond film involves balancing several key elements that have defined the franchise over the years. It isn't complicated. By focusing on these simple elements, filmmakers can create a James Bond movie that is both fun and entertaining, appealing to long-time fans and new audiences alike. But is it all too much to ask now-a-days?
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When David is not running an advertising and marketing company, his hobby is The Bond Experience which is primarily a video blog where he discusses Bond experiences and the people and brands that help to create those experiences...
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I want Bond to go back to basics. No more rogue missions. Keep it simple for King and country. No more personal issues Do the job.
Couldn't agree more 🎉
Absolutely.
Same. No baby mama drama, salty step brothers, etc. Trim the baggage.
Same
The Craig films sucked all the fun out of Bond. Its supposed to be pure escapism, Bond driving with baby seat in the back is anything but.
The proper formula was laid out in the first three Connery films. Kick assery, style, and a dash of humor. EON needs to get back to that.
EON won't do it because getting into the sheik cocktail parties is more important to Barbara
They had that with Timothy Dalton, but they screwed him over so really come on
They retired it after Die Another day as after 20 films it was time for a change [and home media/internet made it too obvious-Mission Impossible 7 got some flack for having a similar plot structure to MI6],
Wonder how different things would have been if NTTD came out before the pandemic. I felt like I came out of a funeral on opening night. Top Gun Maverick left me so excited leaving the theatre
Thing is, The Bourne series was serious, but highly engaging. The Craig era was just joyless and miserable.
Because he had an actor call Tom Cruise as you know, cared about the franchise and wanted to make sure that the fans were happy and boy did he deliver because when I was at the theater, I saw it and I literally cried. It was so good it’s just sad that a franchise that was born right out of the 1950s by Ian Fleming had to end in that way And I’m gonna say it again as long as I live that Daniel Craig I respect him as much as I can but he should not be in a bond film because in the ending of the day when you read the books, Timothy Dalton is bond
It’s incredible that Daniel Craig had two of the best Bond films, two of the worst, and one in the middle. He had a lot of potential and I respect the man, the writers just did him and Bond dirty.
@@eightnickel1513 What was the one in the middle?
I think he has three of the absolute worst and two very average top 16.
@@eightnickel1513 hey for a man who literally said that he knows the lore like the back of his hand and he allowed this to happen. What the hell normally you step up and you fight for what you love he did not. He was there for the money and that is it and he doesn’t even look like what James Bond supposed to look in the novels. Just look at Timothy Dalton. He is the blueprint of what Bon should look like not Daniel Craig. And on top of that, he produced some of it so give me a break is nothing but a joke.
Yes, i agree with many comments: no more rogue. Bond gets a mission and then he beats the villian like in the good old days.
Tomorrow Never Dies is the Bond I want to see. It strikes the right balance of fun and seriousness. I don’t want Moonraker silly but I also don’t want to see Bond sulking throughout the whole film which I think Craig’s Bond did (not his fault it was the writers). I also want Bond on a mission so that we the fans can watch a single bond film and understand everything that’s happening without having to see the previous few films
I couldn't agree more
"Give the people what they want!"
@@Kemotherapy360the difference between genius and insanity is measured only by success
Totally agree. Tomorrow Never Dies is a perfect example of the Bond formula. Hits all the best beats perfectly. Super underrated Bond movie.
Hell I'll take another Moonraker over any of the Craig era nonsense.
The brosnan era. That's the vibe i want back. I know the writing was a mixed bag, but overall they balanced the cold, deadly world of bond with the lighter and optimistic moments very well. Not slapstick or camp, and not a daytime soap. Just a man doing the job and enjoying it. Not suffering.
It needs to be, I think the Mission Impossible Franchise has the balance right.
I've said it before, I felt the last two DC installments radiated his apathy towards the role. I hope the next Bond brings passion, fun, suspense and drama to the movies.
Yet, Dead Reckoning was a big flop. $100 million loss, and NTTD scraped through with a profit even with contending with being the first major release after the pandemic. Numbers don't lie.
His entire tenure was awful. Worst Bond ever.
@@sandersson2813 really I been saying that for a long time but people have always said that they love him give me a break you know why people like him because one other bond back in the 1980s pave the way for him and his name is Timothy, Dalton, and all my God and I tell you if you read the books, read them because it’s right in the books the blueprint for what bond should be, and if you haven’t seen the living daylights and a license to kill that is what bond should be, and that’s what he should look like
Until or Unless they Retcon that *absolute Insult* that they made back in 1996 and make it so the *real* Jim Phelps really did die in Prague and the one on the Train was Daniel Briggs (the actual Traitor) in a Facemaker, the Mission: Impossible films are Alternative Universe *at best* for me! They need to *Retcon* the First film before I will ever Consider them as Mission: Impossible.
@@simeonyves5940 Good idea actually. That surprise would be a good way to end Cruise's involvement in the series.
Agree 100 percent. Eon needs to do like you said and give the audience what they want! Disney has lost their mojo because they forgot that. Eon is dangerously close to doing the same.
Give us a fun story. Great locales. Beautiful ladies and a really bad bad guy.
Give me Cavill. Give me Nolan. Heck, give me Tom Selleck as the villain! (He has a ranch to pay for)
David, Beverly Hills Cop 4 was so magical and triumphant! I hope next Bond gets that treatment!
Bond movies and the Fleming novels are pulp fiction. They can be dark and gritty, as well as humorous and fun. Someone in the comments mentioned Die Hard, calling it dark and gritty. Die Hard is hard-edged but features a funny, wisecracking hero who finds himself in impossible situations, facing larger-than-life villains, and navigating a twisty plot. This is how I believe Bond movies should be. The first Die Hard is basically Goldfinger with gritty violence. Fleming's Bond stories are fun too, but they feature a more somber Bond within good, fun pulp stories.
Agreed. The novel Dr. No is very Die Hard-esque.
Nailed it. Die Hard is a very serious story. The humor came from John McClane deflecting cause he’s terrified of the situation he’s in. John is not a super cop. He was just a regular cop who lead a regular life. Most average cops, who aren’t swat, live a pretty boring career. They aren’t getting into the adventures you see in Lethal Weapon, Cobra, or Kindergarten Cop. So many fans forget that Bruce Willis was NOT an action before this movie. He was a comedy actor. Die Hard doesn’t work if you cast Schwarzenegger, Stallone, or Gibson as John McClane.
Exactly. Also if you’re like a bond/Fleming purist, you’ll know when in an interview about bond he said that he wanted bond to be a dull and ordinary man who goes throw into EXTRAORDINARY situations (keyword: extraordinary. So he was literally subtly saying that he’s well aware that what he’s writing is pure fiction with a sprinkling of personal experience and a tiny dash of realism that keeps it grounded) so exactly what you’re saying it can be gritty and serious but it can also be fun escapism. Also Mel was actually originally gonna be John Mclane and Bruce was gonna be Riggs but thank god they didn’t. Because you could not imagine it any other way
I don't get much connection with Die Hard and Bond at all. Die Hard established it's own genre and it's lead [a blue collar family man] is very different to Bond, particularly in his vulnerability [as he's increasingly injured as the night goes on]-which was something lost in the later sequences.
@@jamesatkinsonja If you've read some of the Fleming novels, Bond improvises and sustains serious injuries like McClane. There's also a higher sense of danger similar to Die Hard that plays up the "what if the hero doesn't make it" angle of the story.
I totally agree we want a fun film and the Cuba scene in NTTD proves that EON can still deliver this when they want to. And bring back David Arnold for the music.
Arnold has said the director gets to chose who composes the film but if they don't have a preference, he gets the job.
@@jamesatkinsonja I so hope you're right and what you say makes sense because Sam Mendes insisted on Thomas Newman for 'Skyfall' which was why Arnold lost the gig in the first place. So hope they bring him back.
They should hire Mike Myers as a secondary villain. The shadow of Austin Powers has been hanging over Bond for years and a scene of Bond killing him would work metaphorically as 007 getting Powers and Dr Evil out of its system.
Austin Powers Parody Was Out Spying The Spy. Made Parody Of Bond, Comical Spy Hard, Lapoon Spoofs..Evil.
Simple really:
- Bond on a mission
- Kicking ass action
- Awesome and beautiful women
- A solid villain
- Good big set pieces
- A good story and witty script
- Good direction
- Nice cinematography
- Good pacing that doesn't drag
- No social politics
- No stupid story arcs
- No emotional vulnerability nonsense
- A decent ending where Bond wins (and doesn't die like a punk)
- Good funny scenes with the MI6 regulars
Bing bang a boom, it's a Bond movie.
It's not that hard.
Back to the style of Moore and Brosnan...fun , gags, gadgets, girls, larger than life bad guys,real stunts...no cgi...you get the picture.
Yes on the girls and real stunts but and Not to sound rude absolutely not on everything else especially the style of Moore and brosnan. It can be fun but be grounded and have stakes where you actually get worried for bond (kinda how the books were. They weren’t like deep literature or anything they were spy thrillers). What Moore and brosnan did (it’s great as they were) should stay where it is. It was nice the first time but the more it went on the more embarrassing it was getting.
He doesn’t have to be Moore or Brosnan, but he needs to have fun, and be fun. Connery had fun through Thunderball, even Lazenby with his limiting acting ability had fun. Daniel Craig might’ve been the best “actor” to play Bond, but after Casino Royale it felt like it was pulling teeth to get his Bond to crack a smile and his iteration couldn’t wait to retire or not be Bond.
@@hitchcockisthegoat ya know that’s was kinda his attitude when I read a great book called the many lives of James bond (highly recommended btw) he doesn’t directly say it but implies it that his bond HATES being bond. And that is NOT who James Bond is I mean he does contemplate about life sometimes but he’s not a depressed emo. He does know how to have fun and relax if you’ve read the books, but it’s not like this “carefree and not a worry in the world” type of fun where it kinda takes you out of it (which I didn’t like at all) but rather “he knows that he won’t live much longer so he’ll just enjoy it as much as he can before he kicks it.” So I agree with you that he needs fun but no more than he has to where it takes you out of it.
Almost like a British agent operating in deep cover as a European 1 percenter should act and reflect that
Until it gets too silly and over the top,then people will want serious again ...
Yup, lifelong Bond fan here but the last three Mission Impossible movies have been way better. Genuinely exciting and fun. I like Craig as an actor (and Casino Royale and Skyfall were excellent) but I'm sick of gloomy Bond. Nope, I don't want things as silly as the worst excesses of Moore's era but make Bond fun again, please!
2015's Kingsman: The Secret Service proved that a Roger Moore Bond film still works in the 21st century.
Same. Brosnan era I think found the best balance of fun/grit. Not camp but not an emotional grinder you feel depressed about leaving theaters.
yeah like Brosnans first 2 movies
At this point, I think I would just appreciate a little confirmation that the franchise is still a thing, like they're still going to make more, at the moment it feels totally dead.
It’s dead! The problem is the producers are done with making new films.
Seems they're having trouble figuring out how to continue. But there will for sure be more movies, it's just a matter of time.
@@Ray_2112 Damn! They are the experts, they supposed to figure this one out!
@@picosreviews2770 - No more Phoebe Waller Bridge as producer!!! She only knows how to kill our heroes!!!
Considering the state of the entertainment industry, it may be better off if they leave it alone.
It goes in cycles it would seem, first Connery with a little serious tone, Lazenby a harsh tone, then Moore with silliness, then Dalton which was very dark, then Brosnan which was a mix between Connery and Moore and finally Craig which was über serious and tough.
So while we may cry out for a funny bond in a few films, we may want the hardliner version again.
They match the mood of the time in many ways. Post 9/11 things got serious so was the perfect time to take Bond in that direction.
I’m 23 and fan level nearly at David’s level just a few less collectibles 🤣 and yes I agree. Films are for fans not politics
the problem is, that politicians make these movies now insted of actual fans
David this should be a 2 hour discussion with Joe, Calvin and Dutch Bond Fan. We need that kind of Bond film nowadays like when you recently surmized that the films in the 70s where so lighthearted because of all the turmoil the world had exprienced in the 60s.
That would’ve been gold to have these guys just discuss it.
The smile that Daniel Craig pulls after Carlos detonates himself in Miami. That's the note to play.
We were in on it with 007. We all smiled. We were satisfied.
Bond is timeless because he represents something unchanging . He is a caricature of a certain traditional man, a man that is mildly antiquated, and we find our meaning in his character through the snapshot of this man as we know him navigating a more contemporary world. Bond is stubborn but at the same time cannot afford a misstep. There is your intrigue, gadget and ice paraglide-surfing free.
For Bond 26 and the next era of Bond in general
The tone and charm of Sean Connery but keep the fight scenes gritty like The Daniel Craig era.
Gunbarrel at the beginning of the film.
M scenes to be straight to the point like classic Bond.
Moneypenny scenes to be romantic.
Still set it in modern day.
Keep Naomie Harris, Ben Whishaw, Ralph Finnes and Rory Kinnear.
Q scenes to have people in the background testing gadgets and Bond messing around with the gadgets but still have a bit of seriousness in these scenes as well.
More of Jamaica.
I couldn't agree more. Mid 40s here, Roger was my first Bond cinema experience with Octopussy. Even had the Octopussy annual. Beverly Hills Cop 4 was the perfect mix. The problem is that too many studios let people loose with IP that don't care about the audience but rather want to make a name for themselves. I just saw a trailer Gladiator II, and it looks very interesting. Maybe we are turning a cinematic tide
Making it good again would be a start. They never topped Casino Royale (Skyfall was beautiful though)
Agree 100%. Doesn’t even have to be hard. Use a good charismatic actor and an Anthony Horowitz book as script. Voila!
I've been annoyed with the whole current situation and lack of any (evident) progress towards Bond 26. So I've had no interest in watching Bond -related videos. I'm glad I came back to watch this one. Very well said. My thoughts exactly. Thank you.
For me this is the most important video you have made. Its the thing that affects me at gut level.I long for the days of coming out of a Bond movie and punching my fist in the air. Like i did after TSWLM, Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies. Fun and entertaining. I dont get why people want it serious.
Because reflects thier daily lives and they see themselves in that kind of movies.
Bond is fun is a brilliant statement, David. Whatever they do next, they need to embrace this 💯
There was a moment in “Skyfall” where I found myself thinking Bond has become Bondman (Batman). I love both characters, but Bond has always been - at least cinematically - a character I enjoy seeing enjoying being that “blunt instrument” super spy. I want to see him act on the story rather than the story act on him. Long story short - let’s have fun!
Skyfall was just a joke. I fell asleep in the theater twice and when I saw the ending I was like what the hell we have a 007 agent license to kill and he couldn’t even protect his boss talk about bad and he disrespected the family home, I mean, come on, he just literally blew it up and didn’t even care
Completely agree. Bond has to be Bond. He is an known entity.
I honestly think this is why EON is sitting on Bond for a few years - waiting for certain trends to blow out.
There are certain TV shows, certain movie franchises that I just will never spend time and money on anymore. Because they do not provide a product I am interested in - and these are the franchises that are failing...
A good written Bond story - written with today's social/political world could be very interesting.
I really hope the support characters are played by the same actors. A new Bond learning to deal with seasoned versions Q, M & Moneypenny could be an interesting development.
Make Bond fun again… the Daniel Craig Bond was a DOWNER!! 😂
And very depressing and not even entertaining whatsoever
NTTD was the worst Bond film of all time. We do need fun again!
Come on-it's not even the worst Craig Bond movie and it's far better acted and made than the likes of Never Say Never Again and Diamond's are forever. The ending shouldn't condemn the full film.
I absolutely agree - I want the fun Bond adventure back! I like Casino Royale and Skyfall a lot, but I really hope they go away from that rather depressing crime thriller direction they had with Daniel Craig. And no forced connections between movies that don't really have a well thought out connection. Either plan it well ahead or leave them standalone movies.
David,
Thank you for saying online what so many of us are saying to our friends and fellow enthusiasts.
Here are three things to emphasize your point:
1.) the reason that “entertainment” films you described are so popular is because they are produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Mr. Bruckheimer understands the premise of box office cinema: to entertain. “Movie house” cinema aka “indie” cinema is where heavy subjects are discussed, subtitles are used and audiences are challenged, confused and sometimes angered. That doesn’t mean that box office cinema can’t have good dialogue and good stories (think of the great movies of Hitchcock), it just means that the focus of those movie productions - as you said so well - are entertaining the core audience.
2.) the Ian Fleming novels and the Bond movies are escapist. Trust me, I had a career in the trade and I can tell you that my colleagues and myself enjoy the books and the movies not because they are real but precisely because they are not real. The books and the movies don’t harp on the grim nature of life in the shadows. Fleming’s books are far grittier, but he never strayed from the idea that the books were thrillers and that was what drew readers to his books. There are other books and movies out there (mostly written by LeCarre or in his style) that capture the shadow world. They are interesting but the audience will never leave the theatre feeling “entertained” the way an escapist movie will. This is why Indiana Jones movies work;
3.) There is no doubt that the vast majority of the Bond audience are men. That has always been the case and likely always will be the case. That said, over the years the female leads in the movies have been less “eye candy” and more real people. You could say that began with Pussy Galore and continued on and off until NTTD. Unfortunately, there is a fine line between making heroic female characters and trying to force social issues into an escapist genre. Believe me, I have been trying for ten years to get it right with Sue and Barbara O’Connell in my MIKE4 series and so far I haven’t seen any success precisely because my female heroes are just interested in doing the job of espionage and doing it well. I suppose I could write differently, but I am trying to capture the real world where life and death decisions are made based on experience and skill.
I wonder if EON even is considering a new Bond at this point. If they are, we can only hope they are listening to people like you. In the meantime, I will continue to read Fleming (including the new Fleming biography) and watch movies that entertain.
Cheers, mate
JR Seeger
Old warrior, even older writer
I am a Dalton fan, Skyfall is my favourite Bond film, and I still have enough of the tone being too serious by now.
I hope the next Bond film is not a depressed arthouse flick, but as you said a simple and fun triumph of a film with humour in spades. I want the effortless cool, the quips and the creative.
If we were to take No Time To Die as an example, I want the Cuba scene with Paloma as a whole film, not the Norway section.
Many (read: most) movie makers today are more concerned with lecturing us with their world view than actually producing what we want...entertainment.
Great Video! You are a marketer. On your channel do a video (with your friends) of the scenes that are your example of fun, the triumphant bond! Some that come to mind: no time to die: fight on Cuba, Tomorrow never dies: bond with 2 guns on stealth boat, Thunder ball: Skeet shoot, Live and let die: boat chase, Do that video to explore the cross generational character
I want a " Looks like he's attempting RE-ENTRY!" level of fun.
Yeah I would love a spectacle, a blockbuster, an event, fun escapism. Broccoli said about continuing the theme of Craig’s movies which I found entertaining. But now I would love for Bond to go back to an escapism, fun classic bond style movie. And yeah totally agree that movies nowadays are trying to please a loud minority not the quiet majority. And the last one was just depressing.
I like Brosnan
Never liked Craig, despite enjoying Casino Royal. What makes Bond different is that he is suave and able to attract women IRL - Craig was almost like putting Toretto from the fast and furious franchises playing Bond.
What comes before or after a mission should remain irrelevant, Bond is like the 'monster of the week' episodes in say X-files. Each movie should live in it's own bubble.
1) More realistic espionage elements such as how does bond retrieve a gun and other essentials when in enemy territory
2) More interesting espionage related themes such corporate espionage committed by foreign powers
3) Please, no return to roger moore campy humor.
4) Traditional mission for King and country. No more going awol or being abandonded by MI6.
5) More scenes of fancy train travel and dinner cars. Love those dialogue interactions happening in Belmond style trains
6) More charming flirt between Bond a beautiful woman who can return the flirt.
Mate, thank you so much for calling things how they are and speaking total sense 👏 👏 👏
I'd like to see future Bond installments be serious, triumphant as well as fun providing occasional laughs. Beverly Hills Cop 2 was my favorite of the franchise due to its darker and more serous tone immediately noticeable from the opening scene. More action, better stunts and a unique 6 foot blonde henchwoman complimented with Eddie Murphy's humor.. My friend purchased a black Iroc-Z because of the movie.
Back to Basics Mr Bond!
You nailed it David! I'm a James Bond fan and in my opinion, what makes those films so attractive (especially up to the Pierce Brosnan movies) is that you are just having a great time with James Bond! The adventure, the humor, the catch phrases, the beautiful and exotic landscapes... as you say, you come out of a James Bond movie pumped, full of positive energy! Even though I like Daniel Craig as an actor, I think that the film makers started to change the formula since Skyfall; Skyfall, Spectre and "the last one", just were not that fun anymore, the locations were not that attractive, not as colorfull anymore...And James Bond was just not that suave gentlemen spy anymore... And so, in my opinion, the James Bond movies lost their charme.
I really hope that the next James Bond movie will recapture some of the elements that made you just have a good time watching a James Bond movie.
And yet Skyfall was the biggest box office Bond hit of them all and audiences hadn't seen such huge reactions to two consecutive Bonds (Skyfall/SPECTRE) since Goldfinger/Thunderball. Craig's films just kept apace with the times. Sorry, but if you want to go back to the tone of decades-old Bond films, then you need a VCR.
@@danielscott8180 Agreed. They retired the formula/tropes because it had got too repetitive and there's no denying the Craig films were hugely financially [and mostly critically] successful.
I want the golden age back. Most of us didnt fall in love with the series because Bond was a diaper-changing, depressed man who dies at the end of the movie.
Spot on David. I actually used Top Gun Maverick as the opening example, "real stunts" and story it's well crafted basic story in a pitch my Entertainment lawyer sent to EON for the next Bond film earlier in the year.
They did do 'real stunts' on Bond as Daniel Craig injured himself on pretty much all his films.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yes. I noted above what is required. Which includes real stunts. Tho looking more for Tom Cruise level of stunts. Craig injured him self in fights and doing a bus jump.
Yes, indeed. Don't go all New Coke with the Bond franchise. 🎉
Daniel Craig is a fine actor and his action scenes were great, but I quit enjoying Bond once he took on the role. The last Bond Movie I saw in the theatre was Casino Royal, I found it depressing. The rest of his Bond outings I watched at home, some I didn't make all the way through. To me, he just is not and never could be James Bond. Thanks for the video and I completely agree with you, I hope Bond is fun again someday.
Agree completely
Lifelong fan here
So glad Craig is gone
Let’s have some fun and adventure
I couldn't agree more with the Top Gun Maverick comparison. When we saw that movie in theatres (and even when I re-watch at home) you leave the movie feeling excited, triumphant, etc. NTTD started so good - I think we can agree we all had those feelings after bond switched on the machine guns in the DB5 in Matera, but after that the movie did not live up to the Bond franchise, and the ending left all of us feeling like a part of us died. Like you say, the formula exists - watch Dr. No, Goldfinger, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, etc and you feel that excitement and positive energy. Like many people have said below - let's stop trying to make Bond so emotional and broken and MAKE BOND ENTERTAINING AGAIN. Bond has always been about escapism, starting when Fleming penned Casino Royale in 1953. Let's get back to that.
I absolutely agree. However we live in an era in which also Hollywood evolved. It was much easier to make great movies back then, less technology like social media, there weren't so many movies per genres, now you have 200+ movies for each situations, from sharks, to action, to adventures, Sci Fi, so it must be difficult to come up with new scripts and story plots. In regards to Tom Cruise, which i had the priviledge to meet, i think it's pretty obvious that the guy doesn't put his name on low budget, cheap, somewhat entertaining stories. The guy wants only the best, from style, to locations to top tier people working in the business plus each times he gets creative to keep people engaged. IMO, the new Bond should be dialed back a bit, no crazy stunts like barrel rolls in a helicopter, and i think in Skyfall we've seen the best Bond. Vulnerable, more human like without too many insane stunts and so forth. The franchise needs CPR for sure, and it needs to end with a bit of a story twist, like indirectly they make you believe there won't be another bond movie and that's what get people talking and buzzing online for the next months. If it's gonna be the same old story, it's just gonna die the week after. It has to leave us people with a mix of emotions.
Another way to summarize (marketing-wise): Stay true to the Brand.
Bravo, sir! Couldn’t have said it better! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Just watched Axel F and felt the exact same…the homages to the original didn’t slap you in the face but were just right for those of us that saw it first run…and owned the awesome soundtrack on cassette! 😉
David Zritsky -- you should produce your own spy film. You'd be really good at it.
This is one of the best videos you’ve posted.
Great video. You are 100% correct.
I do find it interesting that people often cite Brosnan as what a 'fun' Bond should be when he has said he wanted his Bond films to be darker and more serious than they ended up, particularly Die Another Day post 9/11 [which was a big part in him being dissatisfied with some of the 'ridiculous; elements like the invisible car. Brosnan had creative control over 'the November Man' which took itself pretty seriously.
I hope that James Bond in the novel will be produced with a story about intelligence from World War II before he became a Cold War intelligence agent.
The classic James Bond is attractive enough.🎉
@@user-yo1pm6ql7h timothy, Dalton wow took my breath away in the living daylights
Casino Royale is a superb film with a brutalist, vital, vibrant Bond. A great "reboot"... but NOT the vital, sexy, fun, violent, ruthless Bond of the early Connery films. I read all of the books and the early Bonds (as well as Live and Let Die and The Spy Who Loved Me) was truly "James Bond".
What did they ALL have in common? The Bond in those films was glamorous, violent, and a a Gentleman... and SEXY. The Craig Bonds were mostly neutered extravaganzas. The early Bonds were - for their time - incredibly violent and irresistibly SEXY... and what the producers of the series have forgotten now for most of the last 50 - 55 years is that Bond was an inveterate Ladies' Man - the Ultimate Example of that species - and that the females in the books/films were dangerous and sexy and erotic and flirtatious and willing to be conquered... THIS element has gone missing for too long... and the series has been much the poorer for it. Even the Bond Fan that has made this Bond video (obviously from a place of passion and love for the character) is too cowardly to mention this VERY IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL element in the Bond series. FCUK political correctness and feminism... BOND WAS AN INVETERATE LOTHARIO AND A VIOLENT ALPHA... AN ULTIMATE CELEBRATION (bordering on parody) OF TESTOSTERONE-FUELED MASCULINITY... take THAT out of the films and you have lost a critical element... AND NOBODY HAS THE BALLS TO MENTION THIS... even the biggest "fans".
Return to James Bond as he was originally conceived... adult entertainment with a twist of fun that charms and fascinates "children of all ages"... stop with the character's self-laceration and the films' pandering to the "modern audience" and the "cinema as an amusement-park ride" ethos, as that is a bastardization and a dilution of the character that long-ago blazed onto the screen and into our hearts.
We want Henry Cavill!!
Make a fun movie, definitely.
Congratulations, sir. A brilliant coup.
Spot on David!
Somewhere between skyfall and kings man would be a nice vibe.
Right on point! I told you that to fill the void, I've been watching 1960's Eurospy films. Yes they were budget, yes they were total Italian/French/German/Spanish Bond ripoffs but they all had something in common, they all had a playful tone and attitude. Let me say I LOVE the Daniel Craig films and I those films have fun stuff in them and they were also poignant and filled with gravitas but it's time to have more fun, it's time to "play" with Bond again. BTW Axel F was fantastic and we rewatched all the original ones again.
Back in the days when my family went to the video store to rent a movie, the one thing we all could agree on was James Bond-movies. My mom, my dad, my two brothers and me. I have been "addicted" to Bond movies since then, I have seen all the movies multiple times, I have them on BluRay-disks, except the last one. I have not even bothered to watch "No Time To Die". Craig was good in Casino and Quantum, OK in Skyfall, but way to gloomy in Spectre. When I learned that he has a kid in the last movie, and even dies, I never bothered to watch it. It's so far from the Bond movies, the entertainment I grew up with, I'd rather watch another spy or action movie. So I'm with you, David, let Bond get back to the formula of entertainment and giving people what they want, just like "Mission Impossible" and "The Man from U.N.C.L.E".
In fairness I find films like 'Casino Royale', Bourne Identity and the Dark Knight great watches despite the serious tone. A great action scene doesn't need one liners or site gags to entertain. As much as I love 'Mission Impossible', Bond tends to make more money [Spectre earned $200 million more than Rouge Nation for example].
I wish people would make up their mind. People want bond now to be fun. The Rodger Moore and pierce brodnan era’s were meant to be fun but then people wanted a more serious gritty bond so they tried it with dalton and Craig but now they want fun. Make up your dam mind.
It’s like one day you want to eat Italian food and other days you want Mexican. You don’t want to eat the same food every day. Same with Bond fans, they don’t want serious all the time, and now they want fun. And when they are tired of fun they will want serious. It’s just cicles.
It's like that Simpson's gag 'you want a realistic down to earth show which is completely off the wall'!
I am skeptical of the "we need more/younger/more diverse/etc. audiences" truism popular among film producers. No, you need an audience. I don’t feel like a fossil when I admit I prefer the old way of thinking, where it was acceptable to make "boys' movies" (Bond films, Star Wars, Indiana Jones) or "girls' movies." By making a quality niche film, you can achieve better returns than by trying to appeal to everyone. I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp! Trying to please everyone ultimately pleases no one. No man's land is empty. The coffee there is always lukewarm. My free advice to Bond movie producers: don’t try to appeal to everyone. This does not mean that the films should feature the caveman attitudes towards women of past decades. I wouldn’t want to watch that either. But think about what makes Bond, Bond, and try to infuse the new movies with the old good Bond spirit in a fresh way, like was so perfectly done in 2006's Casino Royale.
I also don’t like how, ever since the Pierce Brosnan era, most Bond films have included some self-reflection or self-flagellation about how the whole franchise is outdated and whether such films should even be made anymore. Either make the films and be proud of your product, or don’t make them at all. Both options are fine, but I don’t appreciate the filmmakers taking loyal fans' money while making them listen to complaints about how the entire series shouldn’t even be made anymore, at least not without being unrecognizably altered.
Excellent video as always!
Great points about the filmmakers that ignore their base and have problems.
No question about what direction they should head with the next incarnation of James Bond.
Fun, light, CLASSIC Bond.
The same Bond that captured generations decades ago.
That will absolutely still WORK today.
If anything, probably better than EVER.
However, the only issue with doing that is a pretty big one.
One which we did not see or maybe did not WANT to see at the end of NTTD.
And that is that it is now clear that the Producers basically ENDED the series with that film.
So sadly, right now , we just have seen nothing at all to even hint that they are even thinking about setting up a new Bond film.
Sounds unbelievable but that seems to be our reality right now!
But whenever they do get around to doing it again- I hope they see this video.
Because you told them exactly the way to do it !
Great video, David. And I agree. Given the 2 examples of Top Gun Maverick and BHC Axel F, movies can be made with elements that made them work before all the .... be it politically correct, inclusiveness, masculine toxicity or any of the countless "let's not offend them or they will not watch our movie"
Dave Chapelle made jokes about everyone. And everyone watched him.
And to add to what you said, you can turn that dial up or down a little to "change it up". The audience would probably embrace it. But in closing, the next Bond film should be fun and triumphant.
The recent Mission Impossible films have shown that you can have lots of fun while still keeping heavy stakes.
Bond needs to set the standard for ACTION again. Forget making a good "arty" movie - make a good ACTION movie.
Hello David!
This is why I love your channel. Nobody could have said it in a better way. Hopefully those ones at EON who are the decision makers will watch and understand your video.
Thanks a lot for this inspiring video.
Jörg from Germany
It is worth noting that 3 of the most popular Bond's with fans-On her majesties secret service, Casino Royale and Skyfall [the highest grossing Bond] all end on a downer with Bond losing someone close to him. Similar to how 'The Dark Knight' is generally regarded as one of the best superhero films ever made yet that ends on a bitter note [with Batman having to break his 'no kill' rule to kill his friend then take the blame for Dent's actions to protect his legacy while he lost the woman he loved earlier in the film] while the acclaimed Logan and Avengers Endgame [the second highest grossing film of all time] end with the lead sacrificing themselves.
I don’t think Craig fans realize franchises can ebb and flow. Look at Batman, Godzilla, and Ninja Turtles. They can be both and sometimes you gotta switch it up. I can’t miss you if you never go away. Ninja Turtles is a great example. After awhile people got tired of the silly original cartoon from 87. So the once that cartoon ended there was this unwritten decree that no one was allowed to ever reference the 87 cartoon again. All Turtles had to be dark and gritty like the original Mirage comics (which is still sillier than I think most fans want to admit). The new movies and shows did alright but they weren’t hitting that mainstream popularity like it use to after awhile. Finally Nickelodeon ask the right question “it’s been 16 years, maybe we can finally make a new series that feels more like the old cartoon” and it worked. Turtles are mainstream again. The thing fans claimed they were sick of, they now missed after some time. The time will come when they miss the dark and gritty again, ebbs and flows. Same with Bond.
Take it back to the books and the 60s.
Retro.
Although I concur that the fun aspect was missing in the Craig Bonds, I don't want "humor at all cost" like the Roger Bonds either.
You commented before finishing this video didn’t you? David (and most of the fans and commenters) just said don’t swing the pendulum all the way the other way. Find the balance. No you don’t need to go full on Casino Royale (as much as I love that movie) & Quantum of Solace. However, we don’t need to go all the way back to Octopussy or Diamonds are Forever either.
@@Linklex7 I actually think Octopussy is one of the best examples of getting the balance right between serious and silly, Jungle scene aside.
Bond himself needs to be fun for the movie to be fun. He needs to lighten up and the films need to be sexy again. I think the of the date in Miami Vice(2006, same as Casino Royale) when Crocket takes Isabella to Cuba in his speed boat, and they arrive in a salsa club and start dancing to great music... We more moments of the sexy 007 lifestyle(Brosnan pulling out the Bollinger in Monte Carlo after the race with Zenia) that we can aspire to.
Perfectly put thanks David
Absolutely brilliant video David, well said!
I think it can be. The books themselves were not deep literature or anything. They were literally spy THRILLERS and Fleming said so in the interview in his goldeneye property and had his characters in his books saying how everything that’s happening around them sounds a comic or thriller story (which is why I thought the Le Carré and Fleming debate was stupid. Le Carré wrote spy NOVELS while Fleming wrote spy THRILLERS. Same genre but different tones) the way that I think they can reel it (and me for that matter 😂) back in, is if they make it fun but grounded and has stakes where you actually get worried for bond and wonder if he’s gonna get out of it. To me it should have the kind of fun escapism that Indiana jones had (I’m aware of the irony that Indiana jones was inspired by James Bond 🤣) where the story is fictional and fun but the characters are grounded and get hurt which gets the audience to root and care for them. At least that’s what I want from bond.
Also the humor should be how a guy like bond would have humor (which is dry and morbid humor because he works in what refers to as a “dirty business”)
I guess it depends on what your definition of "fun" is. Some of us like the direction EON is taking. More surprising stories and stretching the tired Bond formula in new directions. You always ignore the fact that audiences seem to like this approach too. These videos always seem like a funeral dirge for ages past. Depressed Bond fans crying about the past. Do you really think Bond is going to return to lightweight entertainment when Craig's films were so popular and critically acclaimed (for the most part)?
I agree. People don't have to like the Craig era but there is no denying they were massively popular with the general public and it was good they tried new things instead of using the formula 20 previous films largely stuck too. 'The Batman' was arguably even darker than Nolan's films and was a big hit so I don't think we're going to get a lighter Batman anytime soon. I also agree these videos are feeling a bit repetitive and negative rather than doing something different themselves.
A FUN BOND FILM . JUST SEE ROGER MOORE AGAIN .
Love Love Love this one! You are dead on. Great shirt, btw!
I tought it should have ended at skyfall as it was quite a touching moment including dame Judy Dench as M send off
Great video David as always, couldn’t agree with you more ❤
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We can’t in my opinion go back to Roger Moore comedy (and btw I loved Roger) but Bond needs the edge.. SAS history .. etc. but I 100% agree that we need a triumphant Bond, we need a winner!!
Walking up Regent street in London having watched NTTD, I’ve never seen a crowd so subdued!!! Compare that with the crowd walking out of Leicester sq after seeing CR or Skyfall.. no comparison. TG Maverick was a blessing after NTTD. I do hope Barbara reads some of these comments because she needs to get her skates on!!
I'm sick to the back teeth with twenty years of depression, Craig's tenure was way too long. I class his era as an Alternative Universe, a beginning and end. Time for the Broccoli family to get the finger out or sell EON to Amazon
I'm sorry that you were depressed for twenty years. But it probably isn't EON's fault.
@danielscott8180 Craig's tenure was way too dark, Casino Royale was a take on The Bourne movies but they fizzled out after a few years but nearly twenty years, come on
@@peterfranks6243 TBH, Quantum of Solace is way more like Bourne than CR. I've seen way more darker films than Craig's Bond films. Bond needed an evolution. It bordered on slapstick for years and lost its status as some of the best action films in Hollywood. The old films are great as long as you watch them in the spirit of the time they were made. Otherwise, they're dated. They could not be made today.
I think Star Wars fans would say 'Careful what you wish for' to that...
It's worth nothing that Sam Mendes has said he felt Spectre was 'rushed' despite the 3 year gap between Skyfall and if things had gone to plan [and covid hadn't hit] it would have been a small gap between Spectre+ NTTD. The 'its own continuity' was very intentional which is why the ending of NTTD never bothered me.
“Fun” is not what I what from James Bond. You insinuate that the recent films are not what folks want, but I’m guessing the box office told a different story.
Bond went too hard with personal relationships. Casino Royale is my favorite but seeing Bond constantly pining after 1 girl through multiple movies and being presumed dead in half of them got old. Bond, like Indiana jones is adventure man, he bangs ladies, makes quips, and kicks ass. No one goes to see a bond film to watch him be a family man or chase a long lost love or be presumed dead constantly. I can appreciate Craig films but It just got too drawn out.
Preach!
As a life long Bond fan. 55 years old. Craig’s Bond have been my favorites.
He was rubbish 😂
@@simonfilmfan4899 you’re so right I couldn’t stand it and I can’t believe people love Daniel Craig bond, those movies, or a joke, and the ending give me a break
Well said. I hope EON does not fall into the trap Star Wars has fallen into.
I know people want new Bond content but I'm glad Eon is not just pumping out tv series like Star Wars is.
David, when I new writer, director is offered a big franchise film many of them want to put their own mark on it. That usually means to stir it up, find a new angle, approach the subject from a different point of view. The reason why these writers and directors are at the top of their art is that they can bring something new and original to a project, do they want to make a film that's already been made? They can still have passion for Bond and make something new. If you want a new 'Goldfinger' just go and watch Goldfinger again. Maybe it is time to have a safe Bond that has all the tropes in all the right places but what happens for Bond 27? Same thing again? The masses will soon lose interest.
After five movies of deconstructing Bond and seeing him fail on his missions over and over again, I'm more than ready for a fresh start and some fun. if i want to get depressed, I can turn on the news.
In fairness Brosnan started deconstruction in his era such as Bond falling in love with the villian and M's expanded role in TWINE.
I don´t understad why "campier" or "lighter tone" neccessary implies "funnier", I have much more fun watching "Casino Royale" than watching "Moonraker" or "The man with the golden gun".
Fully agree. The opening chase in Casino Royale didn't need one liners or cut away gags to be a fun and fantastic sequence.
Eon should hire Mission Impossible director Christopher McQuarrie. The MI movies are the closest thing to the old school Bond movies. They are funny, the stunts are great (and not CGI heavy), the music is thrilling, the locations are exotic, and they all end on a high note.
I left NTTD feeling down. Bond shouldn’t be a dour movie.
Not sure if McQ would do Bond as he seems fairly welded to Tom Cruise. In fairness the recent Dead Reckoning ends of a bit of a cliff hanger/more of a downer with Ilsa's death and Gabriel still at large. MI does use quite a bit of CGI [like the cliffs for the bike stunt].