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- Learn about the Porsche 911. 10 things Porsche 911 owners should know | Learn about Porsche 911 includes things like wheel judder, ims, borescoring, battery chargers, service costs, code readers & scan tools, warm up procedure & general prices & costs.
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Number 11: once you had your first Porsche, you will have many more throughout your life
Agreed! There is so much more to Porsche than just a car. When you buy one you also buy into the brand, with its rich history and world of enthusiasts like Satch.
I think my Turbo S is forever.
When I'm asked do you own A Porsche, I am glad to say, "No, I own two." I also add, "I don't know anyone who owns ONE Porsche."
John Douglas so true just got my first two weeks ago an indeed already looking for the second 😂
Bought an old Boxster since 911 were out of my budget and fell in love with it, can't wait for a 911 one day
Left my 997.2 cab six months ago in the SW of France and it seems that it will take me more than few weeks to drive it again. From Africa, I watch your videos and It helps. Merci buddy.
Super informative Satch, straight to the point and no messing around. That's why i love this channel, it's very real world and no sugar coating anything. I think this will help a lot of people who are looking to buy a 911 or even current owners. Keep it up my friend. Helen xXx
Helen Porsche Girl thanks Helen. The videos I used to make always took a lot longer to get to the point but slowly realised that people wanted the information rather than entertainment so that’s what I try to do now. Thanks for watching appreciate it. 👌
@@alsatch_ mate, there is always one troll. There are thousands of people that follow your videos and think you're a top man. Maybe have a break for a little while, refresh and come back.
Good tips there Satch. Nice to see you are still able to make some content hope it can continue during the difficult times we are facing. Keep safe my brother.
Pablo Alcantara thanks Pablo. Yes I think now we know a little more about what is going on and how it will effect me I can continue to make videos with relative ease. Thanks for watching appreciate it. 👌
Thank you for putting great experience and knowledge out there for Porsche enthusiasts and people looking to own a Porsche, yours does look beautiful👌
Thanks Satch. People that live in snowy and cold climates sometimes can't get the car out for quite a length of time. I have a battery tender on mine and it keeps the battery charged nicely. I do wait a few seconds for the rpms to drop before I actually start driving. Thanks for the post. As usual, it was excellent!
I just got a 2019 992’S and couldn’t be happier. My 5th Porsche and own and mint condition 987 boxster 2006’with only 56k miles
Great tips! These cars are not expensive if you grow a brain. Get to know porsche dismantlers for parts. I got to know the porsche mechanic, we swapped a motor on my 930 at his house on the weekend, paid him cash, a win-win
I’ve been privileged to of owned 3 Porsches. After each one, I feel I’m more educated. Enjoyed the video. 👍🇨🇦
I can vouch for the CTEK charger. My 991 has been eating its battery, sometimes taking an hour and a half to fully recharge the battery after just a day or two of sitting on the drive. I was preparing to replace the battery when I decided to first try the CTEK charger. I put it on RECOND mode for about 3 days. Since then the battery is 100%. I checked it yesterday after stanofor 4 days and it still reads over 12V. Amazing piece of kit!
Fantastic video. 100% spot on with the battery tender. Last week mine sputtered and that was that. Now my corona isolation project is battery replacement and getting the tender.
This is excellent content.. fabulous work, best porsche channel by far, great knowladge sharing, solid camera work. Impressive a must for porsche owners
Thank you Satch, I was half hearted before this video on buying a 911, now it has given me a clear picture what I should expect. Apart from the IMS issues, I heard RMS is also something to worry. Would you be able to give me some pointer on this. Thanks again
Another very informative video - one thing I have to see you cover is ownership. I am amazed at the Porsche’s I look at and see owners change almost annually on the 911. Is it like they always want to trade up to newer/ higher spec cars or do they think it’s running very well so something is bound to break or go wrong? Any comments on the high ownership levels of these cars?
Oil temp comes up slower than water temp. 8:45 I look at oil temp 100C before I go full power.
Good video! stay well in these times Satch!
Love your channel.
And after watching all your content on youtube.
im finally decided to pursue the porsche DREAM.
and i have narrow down to 2 cars.
the newer CAYMAN 2.7 981 or the classy CARRERA 997 c2
(lets say both at the same price, which car you would go for and why?)
thanks for your inputs in advance.
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One of the better videos I've had the pleasure of watching. Hope you continue!
Awesome list! Thank you 😊👍
This is a really excellent video, great advice and sensible tips. The self-diagnostic tool kit is a must and I couldn’t believe that it is still, just as you said, 99 quid!
Point number 9 must be a favourite for viewers but, to be honest, I’d rather not be seen or be noticed in a 911, that’s why I want one!
100% Concur with your start-up procedure. Spot on.
This was a fantastic video probably one of the best I’ve ever seen on Porsche ownership. I am two years away from buying my 911. Mainly because I’m living in Japan and won’t be back stateside until then. Your car looks fantastic I myself will go for a Carrera 4S. And honestly I didn’t like yellow cars until I saw yours so now my options have opened up a bit. Thank you very much for making this video
Been watching a for a few weeks, realised a childhood dream yesterday and bought a 911 997 S. Looking forward to what's left of the summer!
On the startup, i'd wait until the oil temp is up as well before >3k revs - on mine the water gets to temp quite a long time before the oil. But as you say, everyone has their method!
ajcball it’s also definitely worth consideration yes. Absolutely can’t harm the car doing it that way either. Next I drive I’m going to see how long it takes between water temp and oil temp. Thanks for watching appreciate it. 👌
@@alsatch_ you videos helped convince me to buy a 997 a year ago. Especially seeing you could get kids in the 991 😅 (got all 3 of mine in the 997 many times)
ajcball that’s what I do as well. Oil at operating temp is more important than coolant. That being say, I stay below 2500 until oil is hot, staying too low in rpms is said to promote bore scoring. Anyway, get out and drive! 😎
@@tond2006 while we still can....!
Watching this in case I can afford it someday
I'm with you bro 😂
Very well thought out content for Porsche owners or people who are considering the brand. To the point, no sugar coating or BS. Personally I’m interested in a 997, so this is helpful. I’ve subscribed going forward so I’ll look forward to more content. On another note. I’ve not been a fan of yellow anything except bananas, but I have to admit your setup on that 4S is beautiful. The black wheels are a nice choice as well.
Wanted to add a comment with reference to the front tyres “skipping” on full lock. It’s simply because of the width, the inside edge is travelling faster than the outside, in effect trying to keep up as the wheel rotates. Some opinions I’ve read say it’s the Ackerman angles changing due to steering components moving. They don’t move, it’s just the width of the front tyres. Ackerman principle is easier to understand if you can find a drawing, trying to explain the intersection between the steering arms & the centre of the rear axle would take too long. Tyre “skipping” was the first thing I noticed on my 981 Cayman & is noticeably louder during the winter time, could be due to the compound of the Pirelli tyres.
Good to see you adding content during this difficult time Satch, I think many of us are going to be checking out UA-cam whilst we’re stuck at home.
Cheers,
Geof
geofo60 Geof Harris this is correct!
No 9 - I’d add the Porsche wave 👋 Have had so many of these over the years and always uplifting :)
The best was a guy round the corner from where I lived with a convertible 997. Roof down and the largest sweeping wave imaginable. Was a regular thing 😂
That video was perfect! Every one with a post 2000 911 should watch this :)
When you come to change your cooling components are you contemplating going for a waterless coolant?
These cars are incredibly easy to DIY, the parts catalogue for the 911 (and other Porsche cars) are like maps that shows you where everything goes. Porsche forums are also very helpful to help you out to DIY things that the dealer would clean you out on. One thing I'd like to add, I would buy a coupe and maybe Targa, my 07 C2S convertible was just too floppy around bends for me and put me off these cars, I couldn't stand the body roll. I've since learnt to stick with coupe and of course the wide backside ones like this one👍🏾
Top informative vid as usual, re #1, the reason for the knocking is how the steering is set up ( and this applies to all cars) put your car steering on full lock and look at the tyres, they will be off camber and taking different arcs of travel, the knocking is the tyres skipping on the road surface with the forces then transferred to the suspension via track rods, ball joints etc etc. It is nothing to worry about but always disconcerting.
A very good explanation here. I was not aware that a lot of cars also have this issue. Well explained thanks for that. Thanks for watching appreciate it :-)
Right, I’ve felt this in my car and both trucks... Good info...
Thank you. Your presentation is quite informative. It's critical stuff most Porsche owners should know. After all, these racing machines are so precious and deserve proper care.
Great looking 911! I love it. Glad you have sport chrono. I imagine that most 911 owners are DIY types that enjoy working on their cars. To save money, I highly recommend it. Plus, it’s rewarding to do maintenance yourself.
Great video. Thank you. I’m hoping to get one very soon. May I ask a few questions.
Have you lowered yours?
18 or 19 inch wheels?
Have you used spacers on the wheels?
Car looks fantastic.
Thanks in advance.
Phil
Great video!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge 😊
Nice one Satch. Came across your clip there and once again really enjoyed it. I'm just about to jump into my Cayman to give it a rip. People will be spending more time on utube over the next couple of months, so in a way your keeping morale higher. Take care mate and looking forward to your next one.
As always Niall thank you for your comments. Have a great drive in your Cayman. Slightly jealous in fact as i am stuck in the house at the minute. Hopefully soon I can get out and put my foot down. Thanks for watching appreciate it :-)
Thank you for this video. I have a question, though, I'm aware this video is about 911. What advise would give to someone who is considering to buy a Macan; and are there any known reliability or mechanical issues to watch out for? Thank you in advance.
Good basic info. Accurate as well. For my start up, I keep below 3k until warm. But yeah, I think manu says 3-4, I cannot remember.
Great video Satch, I am really liking the look of your 911 great job. It looked good before but now it has that old school look.
A very well down to earth review... thank you
Funny when you showed number 1 I could see you have the same issue I do, the paper sticking out the back of the arm rest cubby.
Really great video and info! I’ve been starting my research and am hoping to find my first Porsche within a year or so. I was lucky enough to drive a 924 back in 1988 at 17 years old, have never had another opportunity and my life long dream car is a 911. I know I can’t afford a new one and am trying to decide if I should find an older 911 (15 years likely) or maybe a newer Cayman first?
8:45 I know there is endless discussion around it, but I think the important temperature is the oil, not the water. Get your foot down once the oil is at 90 degrees C
alex0711a The oil is cooled via a an oil/water heat exchanger. Oil should not get warmer than water.
Alex is correct, it's the oil that protects the cylinders from bore scoring and oil works best when it's hot.
alex0711a 100% agree. I wait for the oil temp. People often wonder why engine breaks down and this is why. They start from cold and start to rev it up. When I was young I can still remember an old mechanic told me this. If you don’t want to break the engine, warm up car before reving, meaning the oil. Besides it doesn’t take long to warm up the oil. Either warm up car before you hop in or just keep the RPM under 3k until oil temp rises usually 5 miles or so? Rather be safe than sorry.
@@dezinetech1000 ...that principle applies to all fossil fuel burning engines (combustion and turbine) I used to work on helicopters and we always wait for the engine oil to warm up, spinning the rotor at 50% before running at 100%.
Hi , love the Show and all your Videos. I own a early Edition 2006 911 Carrera and was wondering if i need to be concerned with IMS Issue, how can i know for Sure or how can i check? Please lmk. Thanks!!!
Thank you. really good info.
Hi, is there a cheap diagnostic tool that will reset the service interval indicator on a 2005 997 3.8? Cheers
# 1 is called "Tire Scrubbing" and published by Porsche North America in a technical bulletin. It scared the hell out of me when I first heard it in my 2018 718B; it's most commonly found when turning into / out of parking spaces due to the full turn and slow speeds in cooler weather. I appreciate the video, thanks.
For a reader i would recommend a durametric (Porsche specific reader), i got mines used (1 car slot left) for only $60 and it was way better than a generic obd reader.
Great tips! So for number 1, what is it exactly that makes the noise? You don’t really mention it, just that it’s normal. Heard it on my C4S. I thought it was the tire scrubbing from the caster angle of the tire at full lock.
Great video Mr TPN I'd add to your list,
Avoid leaving the car unless it's been up to full temperature. Loads of water will be in the exhaust from a cold start and short run. This can then get back into the bores when left.
Your number 7 is a No.1 Top Tip. But I'd add.The oil should also be up to optimal temperature. This takes 10 minutes plus longer then after the water guage is up to themp .Far longer then you would first think.
I believe the GTS are also widebody. Bore scoring is the biggest scare for me in looking for a 997. It can and has affected a VERY small number of 997.2 but is more prevalent in the .1s. That’s the main reason I want a .2, but finding a Speed Yellow C2S with manual is damn near impossible. As for start up procedures, I’ve read that in colder climates you almost have to start driving after the 30 second warm up because letting it idle longer can actually cause bore scoring.
I always fully warm the car before hard throttle or revs over 3500 with my Turbo. Takes an age to warm the oil but ... I don't recommend 2000 RPM because that is lugging the engine a bit, especially the non-turbo cars that are cammed for 6500 RPM+ power.
Thanks allot.Love this channel.Very helpful
I tend to think and have read a lot that the oil should get up to temp before you hammer it. After all it's the oil that protects the cylinder walls and it works best when it gets hot.
#4. You are missing the GTS as a wide body variant.
Love the vids satch and your yellow 997 always looks cracking
How are you holding up Satch?
Not seen a video in a while so checking in compadre.
I've been binge watching ur videos on my tab🤩
I loved this video, thank you!
2006 onwards for IMS, that is model year I think so late 2005 ok too. I'm not 100% but think the engine number prefix changed from M96 (dodgy bearing) to M97 (better, larger bearing)
Hi really like this car I’m looking to get one just like that or red thanks for your advice
Having done extensive reading on bore scoring I do agree with what you said, but the full advice I follow is:
a) Fit a low temperature thermostat (cheap, , £150 including labour from a specialist)
b) After starting don't idle till warm, get driving almost straight away BUT
c) Keep revs down until warm as you said
d) If idling for a long period (traffic lights, traffic jams) don't do the boy racer crap until the engine has had chance to do a bit of easy running to settle temperatures/hotspots/tight piston to bore tolerences down
e) Don't slog the engine at low revs using the torque it has. Get up the rev range a bit, don't labour it.
Having said that bore scoring doesn't affect a huge number of engines. There are even rumours it effects Gen 2 engines too.
Great information video!! thank you so much i owned a 99 /911/996 - and i love my baby!! and i do belong to the porcha club - keep up the great work and continue to give us great information -- Mahalos- Bubba!!
Regardless of type of car a person drives, a proper regular maintenance is key. This should keep any costs of ownership down to a minimum.
Great informative video
Great info I I’ve owned over 15 Porsche every you said is true 👍🏾
Your car looks amazing.
That's GT3 front bumper and what side skirts?
Hi, they are the factory Aerokit skirts. Thanks for watching appreciate it :-)
@@alsatch_ I shared it in our Porsche club. Really useful information!
Very good video. I drive a 2014, V8 Dynamuc PackagevRange Rover Sport - 510 horsepower. It has almost 100,000 miles. People see it and often ask me how often it breaks down, because they've heard that Rovers break down a lot. Then I tell them it - and my previous two Rovers - has never broken down because I properly maintain it. I get in front of things I expect might go bad and get them inspected or replaced before they fail. And I don't have a warranty. So you're very correct when you say to put a little but aside each month so if things do go out it won't be a complete financial shock. If a person isn't willing to do that then shouldn't buy these deep pocket vehicles. I love them. If they are maintained they are worth buying.
I own a 997 C4S. Also have a military duramaxed humvee. I get more thumbs up, and walk up on people taking selfies with it more than my Porsche. But definitely love my 911 more!!! Some people are just silly. Definitely buy the car that you love and Great video! Great content.....
Many thanks. A beautiful video
The IMS problem was also an issue with the 987 boxer and cayman. Also not an issue on the 987.2
Satch, I think you need to make mention of tires, especially for those shopping and buying an older low mileage car. Keep the rubber fresh! Now, we know that means drive the tread off, but there are a lot of cars out there with old, hard, crumbling rubber, which is a recipe for loss of control.
Tire video would actually be good as I'm coming up on needing some and don't really know what to get.
Private Porsche shops aren’t much less expensive than a dealer, and many dealers Knock off 10% for PCCA membership
hi i got a porsche 996,s2 ,tip- tronic 1998 ,116,000,miles on the clock full dealership s/h, if you do it yourself or get a local garage to service it won't that drop the re-sale value ? great car, my first porsche 996 won't be my last gareth
Honest straight advice. 👍
Warm up practice? right on the money!!! The hype on IMS and bore scoring very well put...and if i can add
to your helpful insight? When purchasing this car it is simple really...buy the owner! get to know the owner
ask questions about his other hobbies, interests. If the man talks lovingly about his car, shows genuine interest
in the overall best outcome for it AND it applies to other interests in life...YOU PROLLY HAVE A GOOD CAR
if he loves the car but hates his job...inconsistency is what you dont want in a Porsche deal...happy hunting!!
Porsche, there is no substitute yea?
the #1 : I didn't know what the noise was or what caused it, but indeed when temperatures drop the tyres make a popping noise, which I found unacceptable for this kind of car. Changing into wintertyre the problem was solved.
Peter Poppe interesting actually. I’ve never heard that this can be fixed due to winter tyres so thanks for that tip. Thanks for watching appreciate it. 👌
@@alsatch_ : as you know winter tyres are "softer" and don't get hard at low temperatures. That's what the problem solves. Thanks for the good video's, keep up the good work, and stay healthy.
I had same thing with my Mercedes C43, the garage told me to put all-season or winter tyres on it to fix it. I just sold the car :)
Peter Poppe I own a U.S. spec 2006 Carrera S. I live where it tends to get very cold during the winter months. This is the first time I have heard of this. My car wears Michelin Pilot Sports year round and I have never heard this sound? Very curious. Is your car a right hand drive?
I had a 997 and still have 991. the 997 did not have the problem because it original come with Michelin tires. When i bought the 991 it come with Perilli run flat tires noticed the problem and dealers were no helps. after 10k miles i replaced with Michelin tires then the problems solved.
Good honest vid
Awesome looking car! I dream of having a 997.1 c4 😍
I’ve owned several cars over the years. BMWs, Mercedes, Porsches, Saab’s, etc. Many have come and gone but the very first Porsche I bought in 1991 is still with me. 1990 Cabrio and built like a bank vault. Nothing sounds like that CACHUNK metal on metal sound you get from vintage Porsche’s when you shut the doors.
Mate where you get that jacket from its proper, want one
Robbie like river island or something 👌
Great video. 997.1 is the easiest car I've ever known to do a DIY oil and filter change, and it only costs around £60!
Hmm would dispute the easiet car claim but certainly not difficult
@@johnwh1039 "easiest car I've ever known" that's indisputable I'm afraid!! LOL..
Nice Jacket where did you get it?
Honest Advice again ,yes like all things we cherish .You will need to spend money on them but catch early and it won't be so bad. The good things in life like your Porches are worth it .Just enjoy,as life often gives you Lemons ,Your Porche is the cream on top .Keep Driving👍
U said once engine temp goes 80 degree then drive hard. U have to wait for oil temp to reach normal operating temp like 200 degree then u can drive hard. Water heats up faster than oil.
Hey Satch! Is it just my imagination or is AL54 TCH a clever personalized plate?
Al Satch. It's not just you lol
Hello sorry for asking out of topic, i have merc w204 c class 2008, my car dont have signal, wiper, hon, and also aircon just blow up air 😭 any one know whats the problem
Hi everybody I've got a 992 4s and in reverse I get the same problem when cold weather they all do it also theirs a major recall on the front drive shafts the dealers are replacing both sides I don't know if it's true some have snapped the new ones have a thicker diameter shaft apart from that what a car fast and probably the safest 922 yet . Hope all are keeping well and we get through the virus as best as we can hope 2021 is better for the whole world regards to everybody Andy
I think the #1 is due to the Ackermann geometry in the frt suspension.
I am glad i knew most of this stuff before i bought my 4S
Love your car mate 😍
daniel mcelhinney thanks Daniel appreciate you watching. Fingers crossed for more driving days very soon 👌
Technically speaking that is not a GT3 aerokit. It’s the aerokit offered as an option by porsche that is “similar” to the GT3 kit. The GT3 kit has no painted front skirt and also has a smile vent on the front. Also, 2000 rpm is very low. All the Porsche forums are pretty much saying 4000rpm until oil (not coolant) is around 200 degrees F.
What about high mileage versions, should we be scared of high mileage. Saw a 2013 911 for $35k with 150k miles
Late reply but some say the higher ones have obviously gone on without any of the problems you might expect. Plus 2013 is fairly new. I’d imagine at 150k it will still go on for a fair while. Maybe need to change radiators and pipework at some point.
Read the manual, my 911 manual says get in, start and drive away. Then in bold it says do not let the car idle to warm up.
richharr the car is not warmed up after 30 seconds though.
Porsche Network im not arguing with that, Im just saying the engineers at porsche say start and drive. I warm up all of my other cars and I dont drive hard until fully up to temp. In fact one of my cars has a stepped fuel cut with an rpm curve related to oil and coolant temp, so if its not up to temp it wont pass a certain rpm, its progressive so if you stab the throttle after starting it it wont go past 2500rpm, after 2 mins or so its 4k and so on until redline at normal operating temp
Hi Satch . Love your channel and videos. Great entertainment. Have to say though mate : think you're wrong to advise people to let rip after the water temperature has hit 80 degrees. The M96 engine keeps its thermostat closed in order to reach 80+c as soon as possible. Best to say to people let rip with the rpm when the oil temperature is at 90c minimum. Great channel satch keep up the good work .
My thoughts on 997's is the maintenance costs are usually offset by the lack of depreciation. BTW I think your car would look sweet with a duck tail.
lack of depreciation? you must have bought used because the 997 is a $35k car all day long - a long way from its msrp.
Exactly, used early 997's haven't really changed price for the last few years. They don't seem to sell very quick though.
Your car warm up procedure is the same as mine
Great video as always owning a Porsche is a love affair and a great hobby but we all know an affair will cost you money 😂👍
Indeed Andy. I'd rather pay a little more and have a huge amount of enjoyment, than pay less to drive a boring car. (thats what the daily drivers are for in any case) Thanks for watching appreciate it :-)
Nice colour ! That’s all.
80k views.👍keep going.
The Ironman thanks man. Just got to keep going forward. Thanks for watching appreciate it. 👌
Porsche Network of course should had read 80k subs.😀
Great car. I have an '07 C2S.
Have you modified your suspension? Looks like it sits a bit lower than mine.
Hello Jason. The car has 20mm H&R springs fitted to the car which lowers it a nice amount. Never once has there been any rubbing against the arches either (and i hammer the car) Thanks for watching appreciate it :-)