Tip: never do launches 0 to 100 and manually shift. You will NEVER EVER EVER beat the way the gearbox changes them automatically. The manual is ... for placebo/fun times or some engine brake when you go downhill. That's why you got 5.0 with the M2.
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're correct. But given this 'launch control' attempt was more of an afterthought on my part (hence why I added the disclaimer in the video), I didn't have time to try it properly. And to be honest, how a near 500hp RWD M-car does from 0 - 100km/h isn't that important
I think it’s depends of the car, I noticed on the newer bmws it tells you when to shift at the exact point when the turbo psi it’s at his peak, I’ll say this bc I had a f30 before and you can see how it feels faster when you shift around 6k rpm against 7k rpm bc the turbo psi it’s at his peak of course not all cars are the same but yeah
I know if I got 5 seconds in an M2 I would have scratched my head, put it in auto and run it again. If not it would have bothered me longer than I care to admit😂
I just bought a new M2 a few days ago, got a manual transmission, I'm still old school! I just like the pure enjoyment of driving it and not looking to race it or anything.
I'm old school too but the manual in the m2 is spongy. The gearbox isn't mapped adequately for a six-speed. It's an 8-speed transmission with a 6-speed manual conversion. But if you love it that's what counts. Respect to you. I wish you many happy and safe driving days in your M2. I've cancelled mine.
I've had my 240 xdrive for 2 years now and love everything about it. Best pure driving car I've ever had. The great thing about it is the engineers made it so it has a rear-wheel-drive feel, with all-wheel drive. Her rear end will come out under hard cornering just like a rear-wheel car does. I've actually seen videos of people drifting them.
Great video! I own a M240 however here in the US we can get the RWD option. I opted for the RWD fully loaded M240 with the cooling package and everything else added in. I couldn't justify spending an extra 10-20k (depending on options) for the M2. I have done a few mods to my M240 and I think it is truly an awesome car to toss around. You also don't pay the "M" car pricing on maintenance and insurance. Maybe if they come out with an M2 comp that could get me really interested in switching over
Same! I just went stage 2 on mine for about 3500k all in with bolt one and FEMTO ECU unlock. Thing is a ROCKET now. Definitely recommend DP and stage 2 for you! Definitely no regrets about an M2 now that I’m faster than a G80 😂
@@zacislerlove to hear it! I bought a used 2022 m240i a month ago and just ordered the AA downpipe. I’m in the states so no ECU unlock but I’ll be throwing a JB4 on her
Recently bought my m240i in AUS. Pretty happy with it so far. Love the 4 wheel drive as I drive an a35 before. Not too crazy on the consumption either. Consider it would be the last time BMW would release the petrol only engine 2 series, both m240 and m2 would be great cars to keep. Love your video. Very clear and well structured.
I have an m240i xdrive and the optional adaptive suspension is a must. In the comfort setting it’s plenty of comfort for daily driving even on poor quality roads and speed bumps. If you don’t intend to put the car on a track there is absolutely no reason to buy the M2.
I much prefer the gear selector and paddles in the M2, feels more special. However if choosing between a 240 and M2, the ability to opt for a manual in the M2 would be a strong plus in its favour
there is a gear selector in the m240 and paddles are a few hundred $$ change. hard to think those are real reasons to justify a $15k more expensive car
M2 does 3.9s 0-100kmh in most measurements, so 5.0s is O.o ... You got 10 steps traction control in the M2 when set to 1 it almost let you spin around so I don't understand that argument.
I've heard the M2 does 1.9 as well. But, as the text before the attempt suggests. This was in no way a scientific test and it wasn't meant to prove anything
"it's in other videos on UA-cam" is never a good argument. But again, I come back to my point. This 5.0s is in no way a 'scientific' test. It's just one try...
For the extra $10k, I’d take the M2. Those carbon seats are amazing, you can get a manual and the wide body kit just looks better. But the M240i IS faster, barely.
I bet most of these comments who are grieving about little things don't own these cars. I came into the comments to see how the "owners" feel about these cars great comments by them btw; but everyone else trying to pick the video apart to find something negative just shows the jokes write themselves great video now I'm more leaning more into a RWD 240
We bought a '23 M240i xDrive. For about $8k - 10k more we could've bought the M2, which undoubtedly will hold its value better long term. Considering both cars weight roughly the same, and the M240i launches faster in most street conditions, the little brother is the one to get if you never plan to drive on track.
It's simple: you take M240i. It has amazing engine and in real life can do everything that M2 nearly equally good. If you can afford it you take an M2 because it's simply better and cooler car even if 99% of time you won't need anything "better" than 240i
@@TunedIntoCars I think you can feel the difference because of the extra 2 doors at the back (weight) and shorter wheelbase. Being non-xDrive is the only thing that's stopping me from buying it because of the wheelspin haha. I've seen the new M2 in person and I actually like the looks, quite aggressive
@@TunedIntoCars maybe, it depends on power to weight ratio. A truck has more horsepower, but it doesn't mean it's faster than the M3, right? M3 is 55kg heavier than the M2 (being an xDrive + 2 more doors + slightly longer in length). It has approx. 3.5hp/kg ratio while the M2 has approx. 3.8hp/kg, this ratio could be the same if an xDrive is also in the M2. xDrive M2 would be faster than the M3 and snappier around the corners. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the M3; I was just saying that if they offered the xDrive version, I would buy it over the M240i xDrive.
I bought my m2 last week, the only thing i dont like is the small ass tank it has lol. 52L everything else is Ballin on that car. Its a monster. It is my daily driver so the gas station knows me a lot better lol
Nici eu n-am fost departe de cifrele alea cat am avut masina. Deci nu cred ca e o problema, sunt chiar ok scaunele. Insa cel mai bine e sa verifici de unul singur :)
I get what you're trying to do, but you don't need to be a good driver to launch an automatic car. Everyone can, but there will be differences in the times achieved, because things like launch control, tires, outside temperature, tarmac, make a huge difference.
Both of these cars are good in their own right, but neither of them appeal to me (F87 M2 owner here). I remember your excitement when you got and filmed your first M2 and I don’t think either of these machines can cause that same excitement. More power, heavier, more expensive, arguably worse styling. There’s just nothing compelling here. That said, I appreciate your reviews as you’re clearly one of “us” 😊
@@10essee10titans I don’t feel strongly enough about the G87 to “hate” it but I respect your hatred of the F87. Not many people have expressed that opinion of a well loved car. As for appealing to a different audience, the G87’s recipe of a short wheelbase, rear drive turbo charged coupe, is as identical to an F87 as it gets. Just faster and more tech. I’m glad something like the G87 exists, I just don’t want one. That’s the beauty of being car fans though right?. Different tastes make the world go round.
Your video's title is M2 vs M240i comparison but your M2's 0 - 100 is slower than M240i. This makes me question your credibility on everything you say.
I disagree with you. The OP is just stating the facts which he obtained from his driving. It's not scientific since there are lots of factors causing the slower speed. Plus, M240i xdrive is a very fast car as I also own it. Based on Car and Driver, the M240i xdrive gets 0 to 60 miles in 3.6 seconds and the rear wheel drive M2 gets 0 to 60 miles in 3.9 seconds.
The BMW automatic is in all situations much better then a manual. Manual is more emotional if you like ist a but old school. Everyone’s own choice. AWD is senseless. The ac time of 5.0 in the m2, I looks like u shift not optimal and traction control is not setup good.
You'll lose credibility when 99.9% of the world gets sub 4sec 0-60. For an M2 and you expect to be taken seriously when your seen launching an 8 speed M2 using flappy paddles. Looking like a keyboard warrior at a desk tapping away. The disclaimer isn't enough. Your test was misleading and calls your integrity into question.
@TunedIntoCars yeah of course blame the lifelong experienced engineers of one of the most premium performance brands on the planet instead of taking accountability for not knowing how to use it.
Tip: never do launches 0 to 100 and manually shift. You will NEVER EVER EVER beat the way the gearbox changes them automatically. The manual is ... for placebo/fun times or some engine brake when you go downhill. That's why you got 5.0 with the M2.
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're correct. But given this 'launch control' attempt was more of an afterthought on my part (hence why I added the disclaimer in the video), I didn't have time to try it properly. And to be honest, how a near 500hp RWD M-car does from 0 - 100km/h isn't that important
I think it’s depends of the car, I noticed on the newer bmws it tells you when to shift at the exact point when the turbo psi it’s at his peak, I’ll say this bc I had a f30 before and you can see how it feels faster when you shift around 6k rpm against 7k rpm bc the turbo psi it’s at his peak of course not all cars are the same but yeah
I know if I got 5 seconds in an M2 I would have scratched my head, put it in auto and run it again. If not it would have bothered me longer than I care to admit😂
He's right
I can't believe you actually used that poor excuse of a run to determine the 0-100 time. It's clear that you're biased towards your M240i.
I just bought a new M2 a few days ago, got a manual transmission, I'm still old school! I just like the pure enjoyment of driving it and not looking to race it or anything.
Your gonna regret the manual transmission
@@Youppp I don't regret it one bit, have been driving them for 50 years.
I'm old school too but the manual in the m2 is spongy. The gearbox isn't mapped adequately for a six-speed. It's an 8-speed transmission with a 6-speed manual conversion. But if you love it that's what counts. Respect to you. I wish you many happy and safe driving days in your M2. I've cancelled mine.
I've had my 240 xdrive for 2 years now and love everything about it. Best pure driving car I've ever had. The great thing about it is the engineers made it so it has a rear-wheel-drive feel, with all-wheel drive. Her rear end will come out under hard cornering just like a rear-wheel car does. I've actually seen videos of people drifting them.
Great video! I own a M240 however here in the US we can get the RWD option. I opted for the RWD fully loaded M240 with the cooling package and everything else added in. I couldn't justify spending an extra 10-20k (depending on options) for the M2. I have done a few mods to my M240 and I think it is truly an awesome car to toss around. You also don't pay the "M" car pricing on maintenance and insurance. Maybe if they come out with an M2 comp that could get me really interested in switching over
Same! I just went stage 2 on mine for about 3500k all in with bolt one and FEMTO ECU unlock. Thing is a ROCKET now. Definitely recommend DP and stage 2 for you! Definitely no regrets about an M2 now that I’m faster than a G80 😂
@@zacislerlove to hear it! I bought a used 2022 m240i a month ago and just ordered the AA downpipe. I’m in the states so no ECU unlock but I’ll be throwing a JB4 on her
@@jdbsoccer100check out kies. They work with femto to get them unlocked.
Recently bought my m240i in AUS. Pretty happy with it so far. Love the 4 wheel drive as I drive an a35 before. Not too crazy on the consumption either. Consider it would be the last time BMW would release the petrol only engine 2 series, both m240 and m2 would be great cars to keep.
Love your video. Very clear and well structured.
So glad I manage to pick up a F87C
Thanks always enjoy your videos.
Dude upshifted 3 times to reach 60mph in 4th gear in a S58 M2, a result that can be challenged by a 330i. Very respectable performance
Plus, if you look carefully, you can see dude also passed by a pink unicorn
I have an m240i xdrive and the optional adaptive suspension is a must. In the comfort setting it’s plenty of comfort for daily driving even on poor quality roads and speed bumps. If you don’t intend to put the car on a track there is absolutely no reason to buy the M2.
I much prefer the gear selector and paddles in the M2, feels more special. However if choosing between a 240 and M2, the ability to opt for a manual in the M2 would be a strong plus in its favour
It's a strong plus if you prefer manuals. I wouldn't say it's a plus generally speaking, as nowadays automatics are so much better than manuals.
there is a gear selector in the m240 and paddles are a few hundred $$ change. hard to think those are real reasons to justify a $15k more expensive car
My household has a new M240i and a new M2. I agree with your conclusions.
Bro what how rich are you lmao?
If both were launched correctly the M240 will be quicker on a 0 to 60mph [0-100km] due to xdrive.
I don’t speak english very well but you are very clear. Thank you! I boight a M240i xDrive. Very impressive car for me.
I didn't even know launch control allows you to manually shift. You probably messed it up hard there. No wonder you got 5 seconds.
Could be, but it doesn't matter anyway
Stockprice for the M240i in Holland is approx 80k. Madness!!!
I'm assuming you guys have some sort of luxury / sports car tax?
M2 does 3.9s 0-100kmh in most measurements, so 5.0s is O.o ... You got 10 steps traction control in the M2 when set to 1 it almost let you spin around so I don't understand that argument.
I've heard the M2 does 1.9 as well. But, as the text before the attempt suggests. This was in no way a scientific test and it wasn't meant to prove anything
@@TunedIntoCars doesn't matter what you've heard ,it's in other videos on UA-cam , autotopnl and others, that is why 5.0s is little odd.
"it's in other videos on UA-cam" is never a good argument. But again, I come back to my point. This 5.0s is in no way a 'scientific' test. It's just one try...
if you don’t have the proper equipment you are just wasting your viewers time and misleading people who are unaware of the real
figures
For the extra $10k, I’d take the M2. Those carbon seats are amazing, you can get a manual and the wide body kit just looks better. But the M240i IS faster, barely.
Yeah, but the M2 with the carbon seats (yeah, i agree they are amazing) is about 20k more
@@TunedIntoCars With the carbon seats, yep!
How tall are you? Curios about the headroom in the sunroof equipped car
183cm. In the front headroom is just fine. In the back, not so much
@@TunedIntoCars thanks!
I bet most of these comments who are grieving about little things don't own these cars. I came into the comments to see how the "owners" feel about these cars great comments by them btw; but everyone else trying to pick the video apart to find something negative just shows the jokes write themselves great video now I'm more leaning more into a RWD 240
We bought a '23 M240i xDrive. For about $8k - 10k more we could've bought the M2, which undoubtedly will hold its value better long term. Considering both cars weight roughly the same, and the M240i launches faster in most street conditions, the little brother is the one to get if you never plan to drive on track.
M2's hold their value better in comparison to 240i's??
Love my 440i it always delivers
Never driven one, but I liked the 430i
It's simple: you take M240i. It has amazing engine and in real life can do everything that M2 nearly equally good.
If you can afford it you take an M2 because it's simply better and cooler car even if 99% of time you won't need anything "better" than 240i
I hope BMW offers M2 xDrive in the future. That would make it an absolute weapon, even with the factory setup.
You already have the M3 xDrive. Same(ish) weight, more power. If there's going to be an xDrive M2, it's not going to be faster than the M3
@@TunedIntoCars I think you can feel the difference because of the extra 2 doors at the back (weight) and shorter wheelbase. Being non-xDrive is the only thing that's stopping me from buying it because of the wheelspin haha. I've seen the new M2 in person and I actually like the looks, quite aggressive
The M3 is around 10kgs heavier than the M2, but it has 60hp more. With or without xDrive, the M3 will be faster, just because of that extra power
@@TunedIntoCars maybe, it depends on power to weight ratio. A truck has more horsepower, but it doesn't mean it's faster than the M3, right? M3 is 55kg heavier than the M2 (being an xDrive + 2 more doors + slightly longer in length). It has approx. 3.5hp/kg ratio while the M2 has approx. 3.8hp/kg, this ratio could be the same if an xDrive is also in the M2. xDrive M2 would be faster than the M3 and snappier around the corners. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the M3; I was just saying that if they offered the xDrive version, I would buy it over the M240i xDrive.
The 2wd M3, as it stands, is faster than the M2. Why would the xDrive make any difference if fitted to both cars?
I bought my m2 last week, the only thing i dont like is the small ass tank it has lol. 52L everything else is Ballin on that car. Its a monster. It is my daily driver so the gas station knows me a lot better lol
Salut, la 1.85 si 114kg un m240i ar fi prea mic pentru mine cu scaunele M?
Nici eu n-am fost departe de cifrele alea cat am avut masina. Deci nu cred ca e o problema, sunt chiar ok scaunele. Insa cel mai bine e sa verifici de unul singur :)
Which is more fuel efficient M2 or M240i?
the 240i
Might be the M240i, but the M2 shouldn't be that far off
Good drivers got 3.6sec 0-60 outta the M240i X
I get what you're trying to do, but you don't need to be a good driver to launch an automatic car.
Everyone can, but there will be differences in the times achieved, because things like launch control, tires, outside temperature, tarmac, make a huge difference.
Your m2 0-100 is wrong as u manually shift the gears, i believe u use the gb for the m240. M2 timing should be 4.1s
My 0-100 time was correct. Could I have launched the car better? For sure. Is the car faster that that? Probably, yes.
But the result wasn't "wrong"
I love the m2
Both of these cars are good in their own right, but neither of them appeal to me (F87 M2 owner here). I remember your excitement when you got and filmed your first M2 and I don’t think either of these machines can cause that same excitement.
More power, heavier, more expensive, arguably worse styling. There’s just nothing compelling here. That said, I appreciate your reviews as you’re clearly one of “us” 😊
Yeah, unfortunately you're right. These new fast bimmers have lost their spark a bit
i absolutely hate the F87 M2 but love the new ones. they are appealing to a different audience
@@10essee10titans I don’t feel strongly enough about the G87 to “hate” it but I respect your hatred of the F87. Not many people have expressed that opinion of a well loved car.
As for appealing to a different audience, the G87’s recipe of a short wheelbase, rear drive turbo charged coupe, is as identical to an F87 as it gets. Just faster and more tech.
I’m glad something like the G87 exists, I just don’t want one. That’s the beauty of being car fans though right?. Different tastes make the world go round.
Why BMW didn't want to do AWD for the M2?
There are rumors of one happening, but nothing's confirmed
would you say the steering feel is worse or the same compared to the f87?
Worse, for sure
i just sold my m240 but if you track your car, buy an m2. if you don't track your cars, you'd be dumb not to buy the m240
The 230i is the better option.
Probably should do some times when you're not going uphill lol
I always do this uphill for the car I want to lose
M2C F87 > M2 G87 Handling, weight, tossable, better looking. But the M240 has adaptive suspension which is a plus.
M240 is better highway and daily.
F87cs has adaptive sus
@@durin23 it does and is I what I feel is the most desirable feature.of the CS upgrade
Your video's title is M2 vs M240i comparison but your M2's 0 - 100 is slower than M240i. This makes me question your credibility on everything you say.
Got it 👍
I disagree with you. The OP is just stating the facts which he obtained from his driving. It's not scientific since there are lots of factors causing the slower speed. Plus, M240i xdrive is a very fast car as I also own it. Based on Car and Driver, the M240i xdrive gets 0 to 60 miles in 3.6 seconds and the rear wheel drive M2 gets 0 to 60 miles in 3.9 seconds.
He used paddles during launch, in addition you can clearly hear the wheels slip as well. He messed that launch up in more ways than one.
You're making a big deal out of something that wasn't even the point of this video. Don't like it? Move on!
the m240i is faster 0-100, this is fact.
Bro made a whole “review” video to convince himself he got the right car haha
Is "bro" in the room with us?
The n2 have ame Technik like m3
Yeah, i know
The BMW automatic is in all situations much better then a manual. Manual is more emotional if you like ist a but old school. Everyone’s own choice. AWD is senseless. The ac time of 5.0 in the m2, I looks like u shift not optimal and traction control is not setup good.
Pretty much all modern automatics are better than the manuals. And AWD is perfectly fine, if you need it. Calling it senseless is ... strange
I drive the 240i xdrive with 420 hp and 600 newtonmeter of torque. I destroy the stock M2. It is really very fast due to the xdrive
You'll lose credibility when 99.9% of the world gets sub 4sec 0-60. For an M2 and you expect to be taken seriously when your seen launching an 8 speed M2 using flappy paddles. Looking like a keyboard warrior at a desk tapping away. The disclaimer isn't enough. Your test was misleading and calls your integrity into question.
you talk like the fate of the world depends on launching an M2. Other people launched it faster? Amazing! I didn't. Big deal
Understand the media realm within which your reporting. It's an Mcar. It will always have cult status it's just the way it is. Peace ✌️
bro, the M2 can do sub 4s 0-60 what are you doing in manual 😂
You are a reviewer who changes manually while checking 0-100. lol.
Thank you captain obvious!
Poor guy doesnt know how to launch either car
Can't help it if the poor engineers can't program a proper launch control system
@TunedIntoCars yeah of course blame the lifelong experienced engineers of one of the most premium performance brands on the planet instead of taking accountability for not knowing how to use it.
you poor guy have a hard time not being a negative bitch online. we all have our faults!