Security Breach: 1 year in... (Retrospective)..

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  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion Рік тому +846

    I’m really cautiously optimistic about Ruin. I want them to take their time and delay it as long as it takes to redeem Security Breach. Because i actually agree with you on most everything listed in the positives section, I even really love the pizza plex itself. Would love to see Ruin make good on all the potential we both see in SB.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +22

      And I think Scott is awesome for sticking by his people. Loyalty is underrated.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +8

      I do think Gregory’s eyes being brown might have been a mistake, because the floating heads in Sister Location would suggest that one of his human animatronics should have blue eyes.

    • @alliedog6678
      @alliedog6678 Рік тому +5

      Especially with it already being announced as free dlc, I think taking more time would be good for it

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +5

      @@alliedog6678 yeah, but the thing about it being free dlc is that if it significantly improves the experience they’ll sell more copies of the base game.
      I agree that they should take as long as it needs.

  • @suly5836
    @suly5836 Рік тому +816

    Reminder that before the first patches, you could get the vanny ending incredibly fast by jumping onto some structures that lead to the entrance that triggers the ending by just making some box stairs yourself, this game is the definition of zero planification.

    • @leonel392
      @leonel392 Рік тому +34

      I think you can still do it rather quickly, not under 3 mins like before, but really quickly

    • @ShiftyNifty
      @ShiftyNifty Рік тому +5

      It's not the planning but time frame. The game had a December 2021 deadline and they were still in pre alpha by September

    • @anonymousapproximation8549
      @anonymousapproximation8549 Рік тому +6

      @@ShiftyNifty "Scope creep? What's that?"

    • @JaxxMCC
      @JaxxMCC Рік тому +2

      @@anonymousapproximation8549 it's like they had zero idea what the planning phase of game development is for. Their planning of Security breach is comparable to a roblox animation just making up what happens on the spot while making it

    • @GustavoSantos-ky4ry
      @GustavoSantos-ky4ry Рік тому

      @@ShiftyNifty If Scott didn't order Steel Wool to make the game 2x bigger, they could've finished pre alpha in 2021 summer

  • @personthatsreal
    @personthatsreal Рік тому +801

    security breach and the novels are why i pretend fnaf 6 was the real ending, it was so good, and i wish scott had left well enough alone.

    • @personthatsreal
      @personthatsreal Рік тому +59

      this is also i think why the movie has to be good in order to even keep the franchise breathing.

    • @Akechifan
      @Akechifan Рік тому +70

      Scott has "ended the series" multiple times already I don't think it's gonna end anytime soon because of the titan that Fnaf has become. FNAF 6 was still the perfect ending though and the story from 1-6 is incredible.

    • @jayford4589
      @jayford4589 Рік тому +11

      If it was for the story, that would've been the end. Being honest though, it'd be stupid to end it now. Its a massive money maker, and he knows that. It used to be about the fandom, but now he's running it into the ground for profit.

    • @bufficliff8978
      @bufficliff8978 Рік тому +16

      I LOVED FNAF 6's ending but was on board for the change VR brought to the story. If Steel Wool had kept their eyes on the future instead of the past I think it could have been better.

    • @bigroaststyrone8135
      @bigroaststyrone8135 Рік тому +1

      @@jayford4589 I’m pretty sure he’s not involved with it anymore

  • @DefNotMyBurner
    @DefNotMyBurner Рік тому +117

    “My name is Springtrap!”
    That is Steven King level writing right there

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +45

      I just love how Charlie is able to beat Afton too because "She's been doing sit-ups". It's almost Shakespearian in it's beauty.

  • @VasiliyOgniov
    @VasiliyOgniov Рік тому +361

    What pains me the most is that Security Breach basically nullified amazing ending that story already had in Pizzeria Simulator. Like, "Connection terminated" monologue is genuinely one of the best endings I had seen in a while and it got ruined. Somebody would argue it was going into this direction since Help Wanted, but I would argue that this point could become a great soft reboot for the story, like a new arc with new villain (Vanessa, wannabe Afton) without this whole "I always come back" bullshit. I mean, you can come back only for so long until it will become annoying rather than intriguing.
    What I wanted to say is - if SB started a new plotline without any Afton shenanigans, it's story wouldn't be half as bad. Freddybear deez nuts

    • @Catenfur
      @Catenfur Рік тому +44

      I’m just going to go the route of Pizzeria Simulator being the finale and the newer games are some weird alternate universe thing.

    • @killeranimatronic5448
      @killeranimatronic5448 Рік тому +1

      What if the fire never burned the building because the firemen came and put it out before it burned down

    • @VasiliyOgniov
      @VasiliyOgniov Рік тому +25

      @@killeranimatronic5448 nah, pal, that's lame af

    • @killeranimatronic5448
      @killeranimatronic5448 Рік тому +1

      @@VasiliyOgniov how thats what would most likely happen if it was in real life

    • @VasiliyOgniov
      @VasiliyOgniov Рік тому +18

      @@killeranimatronic5448 but from the narrative perspective I personally think that it would, again, ruin the ending monologue and make story even more convoluted. The purpose of Pizzeria Simulator was to tie the loose ends and finish the story. Well, at least it looked like it when it came out. It would hurt the integrity of the FNAF if all of them just miraculously survived, in my opinion.
      While I agree, it would be the most logical way for the events to unravel in real life, don't get me wrong I'm not debating that, yet I would say that it would also unnecessarily prolong already really long story and overall would be much more boring than just the soft reboot

  • @SheaWaiteAMDG
    @SheaWaiteAMDG Рік тому +296

    I’m still very proud of myself for figuring out Mazercise my first playthrough but I definitely don’t think I could do it again

  • @boomboom6410
    @boomboom6410 Рік тому +417

    I think the screwing up of the story was what aggravated me the most about this game! Steel Wool had perfectly set up a sort of soft reboot of the franchise with the introduction of Vanny in Help Wanted and was laying the ground work for a new era of FNAF. Vanny was gonna be the next big villain in the franchise, she seemed like she would've been a really compelling character. I mean the idea of someone who's unwillingly possessed by Afton and forced to carry out a new string of murders just sounds so DOPE! It would've been cool to see her two sides battle each other, with one side trying to kill Gregory and one side trying to save him! All Steel Wool had to do was create a simple story of Vanny trying to kill a group of children trapped in the Pizza Plex and Gregory trying to help those kids. THATS IT! Maybe add a couple small mysteries around the Pizza Plex that could reference past games or set up future games but that was it! However, just like with everything else in this game, Steel Wool went WAAAAAAAYY too over the top and convoluted the literal hell out of the story to the point where you don't even understand what the base motivations are for the characters! It was so simple and they dropped the ball harder than Fredbear chomped on the crying kids frontal lobe.
    PS: I understand that Scott is responsible for this too but I feel like Steel Wool had to have had input in someway.

    • @Hilo-gk3ix
      @Hilo-gk3ix Рік тому +30

      Seriously! I’m really struggling to take anything as canon in this game because it’s just a mess and feels like it has no connection besides the fact that there is a Freddy animatronic and a Chica animatronic. More just an occasional call back to some of the games themes.

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 Рік тому +14

      I feel like this all can be blamed on pushing out game too soon, and steelwool being too small of a studio for such project.
      So what we've got seems like a compromise between what we were supposed to get, and what was possible to do within the capabilities of the dev team.
      Because well, games have to be released eventually.

    • @boomboom6410
      @boomboom6410 Рік тому

      @@nihili4196 Which isn't a good way to develop a game!

    • @bufficliff8978
      @bufficliff8978 Рік тому +9

      It's more on Steel Wool than Scott because Steel Wool didn't even finish the story Scott GAVE them. The balloon boy ending went nowhere. There was another classic FNAF storytelling element that went nowhere but I can't remember what. And Scott "publicly left" the project around the time Steel Wool decided to redo everything.
      They did such a good job on VR (to the point I still think it's possibly the best VR game made despite VR tech having improved the past few years) that Scott and they were overconfident in their ability to do a normal game. There's no end to the commentary because there's no end to the problems but it's just a tragedy

    • @boomboom6410
      @boomboom6410 Рік тому +1

      @L You do realize that Scott was overseeing a good portion of development right? Scott could've told them to stop adding so much stuff to the game but he specifically stated in a post that he let them make the game more and more bloated. There is no way that Scott didn't play even a little of his own product before release so he definitely had a part in it's failure. It's his franchise, he still gets the final say!

  • @waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +2187

    thanks for defending matpat lol im not a fan of all his theories, some of them are really strange, but i'm so tired of people ratting on him when he ends up being right 85% of the time. like he predicted patient 46 being gregory, yet people still act as though his gregbot theory is still way too insane to be true lol if fnaf has proven anything, it's that nothing is that insane to be off limits

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +482

      I may not agree with a good amount of Mat's fnaf theories, but unfortunately, we've gotten to the point where Mat could predict the next game level by level and the fnaf community would still refuse to give him credit for that.
      It's... just an unfortunate effect of toxic fanbases, sadly. I remember back when Smash Ultimate was releasing, there was this one very well known leaker who, I kid you not, managed to get EVERY single one of his predictions RIGHT, even when other reputable leakers disagreed with his info. Unfortunately, the community just HATED him for some reason, including many well known game journalists too, and only hated more and more as he was proven right, and now, it seems the community has done their best to bury his existence, and whatever tiny bits of info they speak about him... is simple name-calling..
      Now, I am in no way saying Matpat is a DasVergeben situation (mat is a theorist, NOT a leaker) but it just goes to show just how far these dark communities can go.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +11

      I don’t think Gregory is patient 46.

    • @Hilo-gk3ix
      @Hilo-gk3ix Рік тому +153

      He literally predicted most of sister locations base story from the trailer

    • @chaossmith3864
      @chaossmith3864 Рік тому +21

      @@Thor-Orion Better hope the book leaks are wrong or they walk it back then.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +4

      @@chaossmith3864 I don’t really care very much, just from what was in game it doesn’t make much sense to make Gregory patient 46.

  • @JustBeary
    @JustBeary Рік тому +480

    I don't think the fan base didn't appreciate the horror. Why make scary versions of something already scary. People made silly interpretations of a scary thing. Now it's flipped because FNAF is silly so the fandom is making the scary. The fan base loves both sides. That was always the charm.

    • @leonineKelter
      @leonineKelter Рік тому +54

      I think another contributor is the reason it became less scary in the first place. A lot of people earlier in the fandom were kids. Now most of those kids have grown up significantly and have different priorities in the new wave of the fandom. I know I was obsessed with fnaf when I was 9, and was much more interested in drawing the animatronics and giving them personalities than I generally am now, at least specifically pertaining to the fnaf fandom lol

    • @alexdurain3753
      @alexdurain3753 Рік тому +5

      Whole heartedly agree.

    • @emmartheindomitable
      @emmartheindomitable Рік тому +5

      @@leonineKelter oh yeah, i think they are trying to sell toys to children more than anything else lol. it's so sad

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica Рік тому +1

      FNAF was just never scary.

    • @giannilyanicks1718
      @giannilyanicks1718 Рік тому +3

      fear factor is subjective so no need to bother the others with your "nyeeeh sb isnt scary "

  • @itf2212
    @itf2212 Рік тому +147

    Day Shift at Freddy's theme is the perfect mood at 38 minutes in, bravo.

    • @flaminginferno6641
      @flaminginferno6641 Рік тому +20

      The best part...
      That's DAVE'S THEME, which just fits so well for PeePaw Willie's Miraculous corpse adventures

  • @esWhistler
    @esWhistler Рік тому +150

    12:30 the game being too ambitious sounds more to me as a problem than something to be praised

  • @JuliieRosees
    @JuliieRosees Рік тому +172

    I've been looking everywhere for someone to comment on one of these game reviews on how FnaF ended up becoming a Kids Franchise to the detriment of the older generation of fans that made it loved in the 1st place. Thanks for putting this out there, feel like it represents a lot of adult or YA (former?) fans out there!

  • @wheatsock
    @wheatsock Рік тому +143

    the trailers gave it SO MUCH POTENTIAL. if i were to guess what the game would be like solely based on the trailers, it would have been a wayyyy better experience. :(

    • @cayden2744
      @cayden2744 Рік тому

      Nah, the trailers already showed a bad game.

    • @redempyfr
      @redempyfr Рік тому +1

      security breach has a huge map, a ton of endings, cool characters, a long game and you still aren’t happy? be grateful.

    • @wheatsock
      @wheatsock Рік тому +3

      @@redempyfr i'm guessing you've never played any other open world game, have you

    • @redempyfr
      @redempyfr Рік тому

      @@wheatsock I have, I’m just grateful.

    • @wheatsock
      @wheatsock Рік тому +2

      @@redempyfr i'm just saying it's disappointing how vanny isn't even that prominent as an antagonist, the mechanics with the animatronics aren't that good, and like 90% of the game is just running and hiding. not to mention how when a staff bit catches you, it just teleports an animatronic to you. that's just me though.

  • @theeskrungly
    @theeskrungly Рік тому +49

    Pinkypills art style is what people think the tumblr art style looks like dear god.

  • @mysteriousstranger5873
    @mysteriousstranger5873 Рік тому +42

    I think ‘Mechanical horror’ deserves to be its own genre tbh

  • @krdt1111
    @krdt1111 Рік тому +27

    When I saw family friendly on the steam page, that was the first clue that something was off

  • @purpleshutin
    @purpleshutin Рік тому +108

    When talking about how bad the game was at launch all I can think of is how LUCKY Dawko got while playing it. I can't remember him getting soft locked once, and while there were glitches, none of them were bad or game breaking. Then I watched Markiplier, and he got so many bad glitches it was insane.

    • @cgkase6210
      @cgkase6210 Рік тому +3

      Didn't Dawko die in the Burntrap end credits?

    • @purpleshutin
      @purpleshutin Рік тому +8

      @@cgkase6210 maybe, but they were pretty far in between. It has been a while since I've watched his playthrough.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Рік тому +6

      On PS4, some people couldn't play the game past the Sun statue. It'd crash everytime. Never heard a reason why but that's pretty crazy.

  • @mr_me0ws0me
    @mr_me0ws0me Рік тому +37

    i dont know why ppl think free roam gameplay automatically makes a game good no matter what. As a beginner 2D game dev its rlly disheartening how ppl just throw away security breach's problems bc its free roam when it has no actual care or substance from its source material :(

  • @The_Wampy
    @The_Wampy Рік тому +74

    The game definitely should have been time based like Majoras Mask or Dead Rising. Honestly crazy they didn't use that part since time was such a big part of the fnaf games.

    • @tinodethuong
      @tinodethuong Рік тому +6

      It being time based was literally advertised and hinted at in a trailer too!

  • @BatBoy2627
    @BatBoy2627 Рік тому +81

    36:05 William was NOT a P3do that was in a fangame called dormitabis.
    Edit: Freddybear

    • @magicman3163
      @magicman3163 Рік тому

      It’s a Freddy Kruger thing you could tell that’s the idea but they just made them a child killer for marketing

    • @WillieDangerously
      @WillieDangerously 6 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. We might have found the one thing you can defend Afton against. I think the sheer number of atrocities he had committed doesn't need incorrect allegations to compliment the image of him as a villain.

    • @BatBoy2627
      @BatBoy2627 6 місяців тому +7

      @@WillieDangerously damn I made this comment a year ago? Anyways yeah William may be a child murderer. But he is not a child diddler

  • @_JoJo_Enjoyer
    @_JoJo_Enjoyer Рік тому +27

    It's like you just crawled into my head, took all my thoughts, and explained them in the most understandable way possible. Subscribed

    • @mr.g3145
      @mr.g3145 Рік тому

      you just explained everything i wanted to say which was me explaining that this guy toke all my thoughts and explained them into a explanation, weird…

  • @oserty
    @oserty Рік тому +52

    i’ll never stop talking about dj music man's boss fight. the music is fire *and* anxiety inducing. like you can dance and have a panic attack simultaneously while listening to it. i don’t know how they did it but it’s perfect. and dj music man's appearance is fucking perfect, too. he has a tv behind his _teeth_ , what’s more body horror-y than that? and his eyes are turned off and black as void and he’s ENORMOUS and he crawls around like a spider and he chases you and the music grows more and more intense as you grow more and more uneasy. steel wool did amazing with dj music man. it’s been one year and a half and i still want to talk about him

    • @mr.g3145
      @mr.g3145 Рік тому +3

      i used to do cardio after my workouts listening to djmm’s boss music and as it got more intense i ran harder, i remember how exhausted i was when i finished😂

  • @Nagatem
    @Nagatem Рік тому +148

    My only issues with security breach was the way vanny was changed from how she was in the trailers, pretending to be your friend and blaming the evil on glitches and afton not being voiced and having more to do

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce Рік тому +5

      And thats your only issue? Ok....

    • @jesterdewit478
      @jesterdewit478 10 місяців тому

      @@Exel3nceyea it’s called somebody’s opinion you should try making your own

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce 10 місяців тому

      @@jesterdewit478 Just saying how silly it is

  • @mihi-himi
    @mihi-himi Рік тому +30

    as a disclaimer, i just started the video. i binge restrospectives and reviews of multiple pieces of media- either entirely negative or entirely positive- so a dedicated section for the positives of the game is really refreshing. BUT i do find it so hilarious that only about 1/4 of the video is positive and that you gave a time stamp for the demographic who wants to see this game ran into the ground.

  • @WhatIsLife-_-
    @WhatIsLife-_- Рік тому +29

    6:41
    Ya the guy who made Willy’s Wonderland hadn’t heard about FNAF until after he filmed everything, Chucky was the actual inspiration for that.

    • @Catenfur
      @Catenfur Рік тому +10

      I feel like someone would have brought FNaf up to him during the filming process.

    • @WhatIsLife-_-
      @WhatIsLife-_- Рік тому +10

      @@Catenfur
      they did in interviews after filming had already completed, he still had no idea what it was though

  • @malcolmmoses2128
    @malcolmmoses2128 Рік тому +19

    I was in college when the first game came out and have been a fan since. However I've always felt like I can't interact with the Fandom because of how many kids surprisingly love the franchise. It's been an interesting ride seeing how people have grown up with this franchise and sculpted it, but I do think that it has proved to been one of the original difficulties of the franchise

  • @The_White_House
    @The_White_House Рік тому +259

    Damn you need more subs, the quality and editing is insane.

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +28

      Thanks! I have to give all credit for the editing to my amazing team. They helped make this video better than I could've imagined

    • @Diamondflash137
      @Diamondflash137 Рік тому

      ​@@shycrow1272 you do need more subs

  • @cor289
    @cor289 Рік тому +3

    Afton should not have survived FNAF 6 for the sole reason that NOBODY should survive a one-liner as killer as “But for one of you, the darkest pit of hell has opened to swallow you whole, so don’t keep the devil waiting, old friend”

    • @EggsBenedict-te4nj
      @EggsBenedict-te4nj Рік тому

      He didn't survive. He died but his mind was copied onto the parts used to create the vr game. It's so dumb how the devs just can't let him go.

  • @miraclemassacre
    @miraclemassacre 11 місяців тому +6

    great video! the only real grudge i have is refering to William Afton as a 'pedophile' at 36:09

  • @sourswift
    @sourswift Рік тому +26

    I didn’t play SB for the main reason it costed a lot more money and was a crazy amount of storage that it would take up, I watched others play it and I dove deep into the lore thinking it’d be easy to grasp but I was so confused the entire time, and the presence of new GT videos just made my confusion even worse

    • @Natasha-mw2nt
      @Natasha-mw2nt Рік тому +3

      If you’re super interested in fnaf lore, Wendigoon does an amazing breakdown of his opinion of it.

    • @Owen01
      @Owen01 Рік тому +2

      Fnaf fans when they see a free roam 3D game cost more than a sit and survive 2D game.

  • @ThatAntGuy
    @ThatAntGuy Рік тому +418

    Watched the entire video, agreed with all your opinions. This game was terrible, but everyone grew in some way. Freddybear.

  • @shycrow1272
    @shycrow1272  Рік тому +618

    Annnd I'm demonetized for using the Star Wars theme. Not removing that either. Please throw me a couple of buck on KoFi if you wanna see more videos like this in the future. This demonetization is like $1,000 in lost revenue for me. ko-fi.com/jakefarm81713
    Security Breach has officially been out for a year now, and with our newfound power of hindsight, I feel it's finally time for me to talk about it.
    Wanna see this whole video narrated in a flawless Mr. Hippo impression by the amazing canoecarrot?? Subscribe and get me to 15k!

    • @Jesuslovesandsaves30
      @Jesuslovesandsaves30 Рік тому +5

      IT NEEDS TO BE IN ThEATHRES

    • @cameronfrye8311
      @cameronfrye8311 Рік тому +1

      William Afton isn't a pedo

    • @AbadabaBoy
      @AbadabaBoy Рік тому +1

      I like pretty much everything here in this retrospective, only thing I fully disagree with is William Afton being a pedo. You likely got it from the artist's intention and fetish to make him that, Scott (from my knowledge) hasn't even mention anything through the media he makes, is William is confirmed to be one.

    • @boop3nowurded538
      @boop3nowurded538 Рік тому +10

      You should edit it out to gain profit for your work 😔

    • @hathorthecow7146
      @hathorthecow7146 Рік тому +2

      UA-cam wouldn't tell you what was wrong till after an appeal and won't let you fix it now that they've told you what needs fixing?

  • @dumb771
    @dumb771 Рік тому +28

    Matpats theories may be batshit crazy, but they're starting to be basically confirmed😭

  • @xKarenWalkerx
    @xKarenWalkerx Рік тому +7

    In Matpats new Style Theory he argues that orange, purple and green (secondary colors) are villain colors.
    Makes sense for the SB charcaters

  • @CallMeVidd
    @CallMeVidd Рік тому +44

    This game really does feel like the type of thing I would dream up at 15 with the Google+ fnaf community for what we would want fnaf 5 to be

    • @Vanished584
      @Vanished584 10 місяців тому

      And thats actually why I came back to Fnaf in the first place. Atmosphere followed by animatronics is why I loved this franchise. Not lore or Theories.

  • @jedijazzygamer5369
    @jedijazzygamer5369 Рік тому +13

    19:14 “The animations in this game are also really well done across the board”
    Chica: *casually clips through a door*
    Perfect comedic timing

    • @paragonrobbie9270
      @paragonrobbie9270 Рік тому +4

      I was gonna say, yeah, *almost* everything he brings up as a positive with an example shows the exact opposite of his point.
      "The sound design is amazing" - (shows Roxanne stomping around in circles because Gregory is on an elevated surface)
      "The animations are amazing; It's no wonder some of the members of steel Wool worked at Pixar" - (shows the lowest fps clip of Chica eating garbage and Roxanne clipping through a door without even an opening animation)

  • @spudsbuchlaw
    @spudsbuchlaw 2 місяці тому +1

    so bizzare to see him talk about the afton ending as canon when it just isnt. Especially now that we know that Scott told Steel Wool clues to place in the world without giving them the story, the whole mess we got REALLY makes sense
    Makes the Freddybear nonsense look sane too

  • @packman2321
    @packman2321 Рік тому +20

    This was really cool to watch. Most of prior experience of Security Breach has been speed runners so seeing the game taken apart in terms of the actual stealth mechanics was really interesting. I also thought your argument surrounding the sentience of the animatronics the way the franchise has shifted over time was really well made.
    I don't really interact with the fandom much so I don't know how popular the opinion was, but I really like the idea of remnant. It's silly, but the world building side of my mind lights up with all the possibilities for computing systems that can gain functionality and personhood over time, and I think it also really nicely integrates elements like ghosts and grief into the world. A lot of stories want to just suture ghosts onto a world that is otherwise unchanged without really considering how the existence of ghosts over time would definitely be noticed and dug into, so seeing a bunch of scientists messing around hooking ghost-science up into their computers is satisfying to me on a level I didn't really expect from FNAF. Moreso than the original lore in fact (I'm going to be honest 'serial killer who targets kids' is a bit generic and didn't really give me any interest in who the purple guy was, without the connection to remnant, I don't actually care about Afton at all. Giving him a more individualised goal makes a lot more of a unique villain).
    That said, I'm going entirely from second hand accounts. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the books don't intergrate this as well as they could.

  • @Kalise1d
    @Kalise1d Рік тому +21

    This was an extremely well put together video, and I’m honestly shocked you don’t have more subscribers! So glad this is recommended to me that now I can see your other stuff! Fantastic job, man, I also am in love with her voice lol

  • @toxicpiano8166
    @toxicpiano8166 Рік тому +18

    Never have I seen a FNAF video that I agree with 100%, well done

  • @Katyamuffin
    @Katyamuffin Рік тому +8

    That Star Wars crawl was fucking hilarious and I just showed it to my husband and went "yap, that summarizes the plot of the game pretty well".

    • @Katyamuffin
      @Katyamuffin Рік тому +1

      Also, and I swear I'm saying this for your own good and not to be mean, but that is _not_ how you pronounce "epitome" lmao

  • @billvolk4236
    @billvolk4236 Рік тому +8

    It's only nepotism if it's hiring family. Hiring friends is cronyism.

  • @edwardvasquezlowe6201
    @edwardvasquezlowe6201 Рік тому +15

    probably the best review of this game i’ve seen, as someone who admittedly hasn’t played these games since FNAF3 i’ve loved watching the series grow and evolve, but SB was so disappointing. great video freddybear

  • @planetomars
    @planetomars Рік тому +41

    Kellen Goff truly is a phenomenal actor! He also does a STELLAR job in My Hero Academia! He plays one of the main villains, Overhaul!
    Even if you don’t like anime, I totally recommend checking out clips of Overhaul from the show!

    • @bethanyjohnson8001
      @bethanyjohnson8001 Рік тому

      Cool! I don't watch english dubs of anime in general, but I may check out some clips!

    • @planetomars
      @planetomars Рік тому +2

      @@bethanyjohnson8001 I go back and forth between sub and dubs. Mainly bc my boyfriend is working towards being VA himself so I have a deeper appreciation for dub actors :)

    • @Hilo-gk3ix
      @Hilo-gk3ix Рік тому

      I do wish they didn’t reuse him or heather personally, but I’m not mad at their performances overall.

    • @planetomars
      @planetomars Рік тому

      @@Hilo-gk3ix Why’s that? Do you like them as just Baby and Funtime Freddy rather than different iterations? No hate, just curious :)

    • @Hilo-gk3ix
      @Hilo-gk3ix Рік тому +3

      @@planetomars I think it’s just because it’s a series and those voices are already established to a character. Imo the voice isn’t even different from FT Freddy (which duhh it’s the same person) but there’s no twist to it to make it seem like a different voice compared to Tara Strong who is the voice for both Raven from Teen Titans and Timmy Turner. So when you use the same voice for an entirely different character later in the series it just breaks immersion and continuity for me personally. It’s like if Tim Allen just voiced Lotso in Toy story 3 still using the Buzz Light year tones and inflections.

  • @rayzen525
    @rayzen525 Рік тому +25

    Did he just call William afton a pedophile on 36:08

    • @GentleWruzzPuppet
      @GentleWruzzPuppet Рік тому +1

      Yes, yes he did. William isn't a pedo, he's just a sociopath.
      Or atleast, he wasn't supposed to be....

    • @inkanddreams4677
      @inkanddreams4677 Рік тому +26

      He did. There isn’t any proof of him being one though. I think some people just thought that because William targeted children in his murders, that he was a pedo. Though, again, there is no proof of this and it’s a weak claim at best. Personally I prefer Wendigoon’s take on William’s motive, that he didn’t start killing kids until Evan(the crying child, he oldest son)died in the bit of 83. After that he became devastated by the death of his son and tried to find a way to bring him back(hence “I will put you back together”). He figures out about the possession thing, starts experimenting by using animatronics to kill kids and see if they get possessed as well and it works. The reason he targeted kids wasn’t because “he’s a pedo,” it’s because children are the ones who will go to see animatronics, which were what he used to kill people.

    • @tonts5329
      @tonts5329 Рік тому +1

      He called him a pedo twice. I have no idea why this was stated. He's a child killer, just like the original Freddy Kruger.

  • @TotallyM2
    @TotallyM2 Рік тому +3

    Even with all it's flaws I still found it a very enjoyable experience

  • @cbandit7715
    @cbandit7715 Рік тому +2

    Theorycrafting had a HUGE revive though!

  • @kaifisshhh
    @kaifisshhh Рік тому +2

    William literally went from “broken man and father figure turns into monster” to “haha funny old man rabbit”
    Freddybear.

  • @cellophanezebra4663
    @cellophanezebra4663 Рік тому +11

    I did laugh at some things you said here that sounded silly but overall i mostly agree, it's not the worst game i ever played really far from it but has to be the most frustrating and most buggiest game I've ever played in my entire life and i will remember it for that.

  • @lojybtdty
    @lojybtdty Рік тому +10

    Finally got around to watching this, great video Freddybear

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +2

      Congrats on watching the video until the end!

  • @gibbyjibby0
    @gibbyjibby0 Рік тому +7

    My biggest issue with SB is the environment and story. The pizzaplex of course looks AMAZING but it’s not what I picture when I think of a scary environment. Or maybe have the pizzaplex how it is at the beginning but once the doors close, the lights automatically go out and it’s mostly dark. Now that would be something. I also don’t care to much for the animatronics having personalities. I don’t think it’s a bad idea, but I think they overdid it here like with the dialogue and everything. They seem, like, too sentient so it eliminates the horror of animatronics that are *just* animatronics, but they “seem alive” cause they’re lookin at me funny.
    I find it strange that FNAF ended up going the “horror for kids” route. When FNAF 1 came out, and Markiplier made his first video on it not too long after, I had just turned 9 Aug 4th. And I’ve stayed updated with FNAF ever since even though it gave me nightmares. And I know a lot of other people that were about my age at that time too. So I find it sort of ironic.
    I was willing to give post PS/UCN a chance once I saw the whole Vanny setup, but seeing the direction it’s taking now? Yeah, no. It was fun while it lasted.

    • @glockhall59
      @glockhall59 Рік тому

      Part of the fun with classic fnaf was kind of making up your own personas for the characters in your head I think, and the fandom sharing those interpretations.
      Giving them straight up personalities not only ruins the horror, but a large part of the charm classic fnaf had I feel.

  • @ftrwrwbg
    @ftrwrwbg Рік тому +6

    I have no idea where any of all that SB story you recapped was in the game. The game never explained one single thing. You wander around for hours with no story happening at all then out of nowhere you find the blob and Afton and before you can even ask what’s going on here the game is over.

    • @lastmellon489
      @lastmellon489 Рік тому +1

      I agree. The endings are very abrupt with little to no buildup story wise.

  • @ZeroDim
    @ZeroDim Рік тому +15

    For me bought the game day 2 and tried playing for about 2 hours my old gaming laptop (i got a new one as of recent) never ran the same like legit it went from being able to run 75 mods on terraria with no lag to barely being able to run any on low settings until TML 4.0 came out which optimized it also fortnite cod and even roblox became hard asf to run even on lowest settings

  • @kixad6882
    @kixad6882 Рік тому +15

    "If there's one thing that the fnaf fanbase loves (besides minors)-"
    *I choked so hard oml*

  • @mr.g3145
    @mr.g3145 Рік тому +1

    this vid does such a good job at reviewing sb, recapping and partially explaining the lore and how it’s gone to crap, and retrospect on fnaf. well 1 hour of my life spent, underrated guy right here

  • @lolggez
    @lolggez Рік тому +5

    If they really wanted to continue the story they could've made a cult of people that somehow figured out about what afton did and wants to continue his work and that leads to security breach instead of bringing afton back for the 3rd time

  • @donnamitsuki281
    @donnamitsuki281 Рік тому +5

    Y'know as someone who has been into FNaF since basically the first time Markiplier ever played it... I think you hit the nail in the head when it comes to how unbothered I was by the animatronics being basically people. It's cause I already saw them as people
    The fandom very much gave them individual personalities and attitudes to the point having animatronics with ACTUAL personalities was completely natural and there was no problem with it. FNaF Security Breach really does has that made by a fandom perspective feel,cause even if it wasn't perfect it exploded and some of us stayed to enjoy the mayhem it was
    Tho it's also true really nobody takes William Afton seriously anymore,he's no longer the child murderer who caused torment. He's peepaw Afton who refuses to just kick the bucket already and just let Vanny take over the antagonist role. Which is honestly sad ngl

    • @mr.g3145
      @mr.g3145 Рік тому +1

      this man right here needs a oscar, i think every old head fnaf fan would agree, including myself

    • @shadowbowser5674
      @shadowbowser5674 Рік тому

      So I don’t understand, Do you like the animatronics in this game having personalities or no? Sorry I’m very slow

  • @vanillajasper4844
    @vanillajasper4844 Рік тому +8

    What I wanna know about security breach is, what was the original story? What was changed? Why did they change it?

    • @Owen01
      @Owen01 Рік тому

      @@roachybillRobo-pedophile? Since when is Afton a pedophile? Lmao.

  • @mollycannon4839
    @mollycannon4839 Рік тому +2

    this was an excellent breakdown of SB. thanks for sharing your knowledge, and thank you for taking the time to record and edit this video

  • @DrKarmo
    @DrKarmo Рік тому +18

    This video is great, i hope you succeed as a creator!

  • @Ronythereditor
    @Ronythereditor Рік тому +10

    Oh yeah a comfy video let's gooooo

  • @1Tombb
    @1Tombb Рік тому +3

    Tales from the Pizzaplex answers some of these questions, the glam rocks are confirmed to have personality chips, and Afton has remnant, which is why he's fleshy

  • @Adog00
    @Adog00 Рік тому +1

    The dlc got announced a few days ago and I’m so excited!! I really loved this game (minus tech issues)

  • @Skye-Cabbit
    @Skye-Cabbit День тому

    Despite all the problems, security breach is still my favorite fnaf game. It’s exciting and love the wide open, explorable area.
    I got stuck at the laundry area for like WEEKS, and couldn’t find the door that leads to vanessa and the next part of the game. Literally no hints as to where you’re supposed to go.

  • @TheRPGNerd
    @TheRPGNerd Рік тому +5

    am i the only one who didnt experience that many bugs with pokemon? like, i got maybe 2 crashes through the whole game (one was from me jumping on a roof, the other was when trying to do a union circle) and 2 graphical bugs (one also during a union circle). and that was it. i got the game before some of the more major bug fixes, so idk if i just got lucky or if it just isnt an issue when you play in handheld mode (i have a switch lite) or what.

  • @generallyunimportant
    @generallyunimportant Рік тому +22

    the vid's awesome. aside from really apparent audio level inconsistencies which take less time to polish than a videogame as huge as fnaf sb but i'm not going to complain much more. except maybe about how good the story rundown is? i'unno, it's pretty solid last time i checked.
    anywaes, rip in peperonis peepaw afTONE.

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +7

      Thanks! Yeah I pulled a really dumb move with how I handled the audio in this one (this was a crazy fast production) but I'll probably reupload this later on with a few things tweaked as much as I feasibly can.

  • @nileshollowthorn
    @nileshollowthorn Рік тому +3

    It took me and my friend 4 hours to beat the Mazercize puzzle with no guide and it was probably our favorite part of the game because of how good it felt to beat!

    • @1Tombb
      @1Tombb Рік тому

      Mazercize sucks so bad

  • @Adog00
    @Adog00 Рік тому +1

    Omg one of the things I could not do in this game and that took me hours was mazer size. I glitched through a wall to get in💀💀

  • @rohithparashivamurthy3268
    @rohithparashivamurthy3268 Рік тому +1

    I literally loved your analogy of afton to that of Team rocket in pokemon. That is really how Afton is reduced and viewed in the game😂

  • @samiai8905
    @samiai8905 24 дні тому

    I think so much of the feelings comes from the idealization of two things: That fans would be able to make an amazing story beloved by all if they got the chance to and that Scott was a genius writer and super amazing person; all while wearing rose tinted glasses. The game destroyed that dream and shook their faith in Scott and were forced to reavaluate the quality of the franchise and his person, especially with all the terrible stuff he did.

  • @yellowbananago
    @yellowbananago Рік тому +7

    44:43 I'm confused, what's up with this Sam O'Nella reference?

  • @criticalbot5814
    @criticalbot5814 Рік тому +7

    That number one thing that pieces me off about security breach is that it doesn't have a narrative. It has no story. It's filled with shit lore that's tossed to the side with the main focus being upgrading Freddy. With how the old trailers portrayed vanny and afton, I was hoping that security breach will take a more classical route in story telling but for some reason settled on telling the actual story through bullshit disc's and messages. I believe that it was originally going to be the case as the first trailers depicted that but for some reason it shifted when the second batch of trailers rolled around. Kinda feels like that steel wool ripped that element right out either cause they ran out of time or they just couldn't fit it in so they just came up with the bullshit we have now.

  • @jesterdewit478
    @jesterdewit478 10 місяців тому +1

    I think they should make a Directors cut of this game or definitive whatever you wanna call it and try to add things that were cut, add quality of life changes and especially add actual cut scenes to the endings and stuff like that

  • @nihilsnake4017
    @nihilsnake4017 Рік тому +13

    I like how the game feels like a big liminal space, like some Backrooms type shit but only in some areas

    • @nathalia120
      @nathalia120 Рік тому +1

      Yeah same, I do wish they leaned into it just a little more to add more of that unsettling factor though

  • @focy1546
    @focy1546 Рік тому +5

    BRO WHAT, NO WAY YOU'RE THIS UNDERRATED....😨

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Рік тому +2

    The point at the end about samey-gameplay is a pretty good point and has both its pros and cons. Jrs is a great example of how a FNaF game can be similar to the classics while offering a new spin on things to make it different while there are FNaF fangames that try to be similar but end up being completely awful like Dormitabis. On the opposite side of the spectrum you have things like The Joy of Creation that make a change to free roam gameplay feel really good and challenging while being pretty scary (story mode especially) but then there are several that fail to reach that level and end up feeling awful. Security Breach really felt like it was trying to be something amazing, and it probably would’ve been if it wasn’t for scope creep and over ambition. Now with what we’re seeing from Ruin, plus with them hopefully learning their lesson after SB, Steel Wool has me quite interested in this new experience with maybe a more satisfying ending than any of the current SB endings (nothing will ever beat that fantastic Henry speech tho)

  • @edythebeast7087
    @edythebeast7087 Рік тому +1

    I wonder what would happen if Scott wrote a book where he answered all the questions in fnaf what would that look like?

  • @KashForte
    @KashForte Рік тому +8

    Totally agree, with everything you said. I started watching with my teens. It’s was a beautiful disaster but my kids love it.😂😂 Freddy bear

    • @shycrow1272
      @shycrow1272  Рік тому +1

      Oh wow! It's super cool to have one of the older fnaf enjoyers watching this, especially since I made sure to mention that rather-obscure audience in the video! Thanks so much for the comment!

  • @sharisphoneisusedonmultipl410
    @sharisphoneisusedonmultipl410 Рік тому +2

    They need to make a mod that allows you to have PRE-RELEASE Lighting active. When modding becomes possible without a DEV KIT/HIGH END PC

  • @tabi4454
    @tabi4454 Рік тому

    I dont want to comment often but I want you to know: Your voice is very soothing and nice, and so i put the volume up to hear you and began to snooze. Then the star wars theme happened. I'm fully awake and concentrating now, I promise!

  • @TPLS2
    @TPLS2 Рік тому +1

    Yeah I’m so bummed out by the lighting issues, it would’ve been so cool to have a super dark pizzaplex only illuminated by the dim neon lights. The lights only come on during the day when Gregory is allowed around the lit pizzaplex we got in the main game, but the dark trailers is what we would have at night making use of the flash light nearly essential.

  • @Narlax
    @Narlax Рік тому +3

    24:40 but why dont they make updates where they add the features that were supposed to be there one by one until its done?

  • @jare3959
    @jare3959 Рік тому +4

    Pokemon SV is a really good comparison to Security Breach. Really ambitious and enjoyable games that needed way more polish.

    • @leonel392
      @leonel392 Рік тому +1

      I mean, Pokemon is one of the biggest franchises in the world

    • @Vingus
      @Vingus Рік тому

      I love SV. Lots of content there. And the ending is stunning.

  • @LoserLilith
    @LoserLilith Рік тому +1

    I think Scott should just go and make the batshit insane Sci fi story of his dreams, completely disconnected to fnaf. I'm sure plenty of fans would still love and support it. Let fnaf be and let steel wool handle it. Leave the demon to its demons. Rest your soul.

  • @zuzawysocka2161
    @zuzawysocka2161 Рік тому +2

    38:23 NAWWWWW NOT THE DAVE THEME

  • @Thunderdransword
    @Thunderdransword Рік тому +1

    Not gonna lie I beated the music man section on my first attempt but struggled hard against moon that guy is made in such a way that legitimately freaks me out to the point I couldn’t play the game for weeks it’s like if the nightmare animatronics had a baby and was born midnight

  • @G.reviewz
    @G.reviewz Рік тому +3

    I love the look, deel and aesthetics of security breach the glamrock animatronics look amazing and really eye catching and all the neon and arcade carpets around the whole place is amazing.
    That said i am sad that this game was pretty buggy.

  • @Thundawich
    @Thundawich Рік тому

    'Spend too much time hiding and planning, you get bored'. And also just win, since there is no actual ticking clock that needs you to progress.

  • @obambagaming1467
    @obambagaming1467 Рік тому +2

    If this continues, William will come back more often than Ganondorf

  • @mr.werb15md90
    @mr.werb15md90 Рік тому

    I won't lie, Freddybear and the Moondrop part were my favorite aspect of the game while playing with a friend.

  • @Tombino
    @Tombino Рік тому

    I think the biggest issue is that Steel Wool wanted to take the approach of the other games where pretty much all of the story is hidden in the lore, but they neglected to consider whether or not that would work for SB. The older games were short and simple enough that they didn’t need a plot, but this one suffers from there being no actual core story to drive anything forward. 90% of the game is just driven by Gregory trying to find an exit, which is not compelling, ESPECIALLY since as the player you KNOW he won’t find one until 6am.
    This game needed to be tighter, more linear, with more focused sections like the daycare or endos. Have there be some sort of stakes where Gregory needs to accomplish something before 6am, either to save himself or someone else, and have the atrium serve more as a hub world to different stages rather than somewhere you have to run back and forth through directionlessly.

  • @PatrickWarby
    @PatrickWarby 6 місяців тому

    Finally someone who has something good to say about fnaf sb

  • @HumBug_05
    @HumBug_05 Рік тому +1

    I really hope this game gets some gigantic patch/update that fixes it and adds in what they cut

  • @mecolayposting9315
    @mecolayposting9315 Рік тому +4

    Am I tripping and its late at night or do you actually sound like Sam O'Nella Academy, I started hearing that when you showed his thingy on the screen, anyways, great video!

  • @cbandit7715
    @cbandit7715 Рік тому +1

    Oroginal trialer was so so good

  • @fagitocumaeda
    @fagitocumaeda 11 місяців тому

    as someone who played the game for the first time nearly 2 years after release, i STILL got softlocked more than halfway through the game

  • @threexx8808
    @threexx8808 Рік тому

    The best thing to come out of FNAF: Security Breach is the characters and the possible lore pathways and the fan ideas that come to light through fan works inspired by it.
    freddybear.

  • @nayR5
    @nayR5 Рік тому +3

    I miss when stories had endings

  • @y1751
    @y1751 Рік тому +2

    Wholeheartedly agree with you man. I've learned to accept the absurdity and sorta view anything post-3 as an expanded universe. I want to let go but can't, I simply need to see this through no matter how hard it may be. Also, I wouldn't really blame SB for bringing William back, more HW but I personally find it fucking hysterical that William Afton very likely escaped hell by leaving bits and pieces of his soul on a few old hard drives.

  • @Hilo-gk3ix
    @Hilo-gk3ix Рік тому +2

    I would have waited years if it meant they could smooth out the bugs and leave the Vanny storyline that HW set up. It had already been delayed. What was another year gonna hurt?