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Dennydo1 So if thats thier case then without knowing it there also saying F%$# DOOM and Goldeneye 64. Because with them FPS's would TOTALY be the same. If thats the case FPS's are WAY more retro they have an entire arcade category of them but hey not like arcades are the reason for home video games am I right :-|
Dennydo1 That sounds exactly like my over Cod-er friend who doesn't play games like minecraft and basically anything under 1080P specifically because of the graphics.
+Vini Kämpferherz yeah, like Mario? no, there was not games like that. Fluent controls, nice and easy mechanics, balanced challenge, different and reskinned enemies. I mean the game was unique and not crappy. Games before mario on NES were faulty and had shitty controllers and stuff. Not even amazing games like megaman 2 had the amazing controls mario had.
+Carlos Rosado That's because they're actually based on Goombas. The game actually drew a lot of inspiration from the Mario franchise, which makes this video all the more funny.
Honestly, this is the best depiction of Mario that's ever been on this channel. He's usually a jerk, but here, he just wanted to meet some fellow platformer pals. No side-jabs, no bullying Luigi, just Mario being Mario.
since when was mario a jerk? is this just because of the time he stepped on luigis foot one time? I don't even think thats cannon. (Its probably also because of goddamn matpat -_-)
Megaman: WHOA! Cuphead! Cuphead: UM, yes? Do I know you? MM: It's me, Megaman! CH: OH, yay, it's Megaman... MM: It's great to finally meet you! It's so neat to finally meet a fellow sidescroller action star! CH: UM, fellow? MM: Yeah! Your game is a lot like mine! CH: Excuse me? Cuphead is nothing like Megaman 69 Super Ultra HD Remix or whatever it is you're in. Cuphead is an arthouse masterpiece, nothing like your cancelled never-coming-back games. MM: Well, you jump and shoot through levels. CH: It's dynamic. You wouldn't understand... MM: But you shoot Mettaurs! CH: Does this (pulls out mushroom) look like a Mettaur to you? MM: Yep! CH: Okay, okay, look. I don't just jump & shoot. I fight an array of wild boss fights. MM: Like Gunstar Heroes. CH: URK...yeah, well, add in stage rankings based on performance! MM: Sonic the Hedgehog. CH: UGH, forget it! You wouldn't understand! You're just another strawhead! MM: Wha-your head literally has a straw coming out of it! CH: ARGH, YOU-! Wait, hold on-(Pauses and selects Retry) Look, we Indie Games are too unique and original for you to comprehend!
There are two types of indie developers it seems... Type 1: "My game is so fucking original it has brain juice flowering from every fucking orafice. You are just so mainstream you don't understand my immense artistic ability!" Type 2: "Hey guys I made this cool game that we had a lot of fun making!" Lets be honest, all the best games out there came from type 2. I never got the push to force "art" onto people, because in all honesty the best of art comes naturally or alongside the process of enjoyment.
what Indie Game creators think Braid: "unique and original" FEZ: "unique and original" Limbo: "unique and original" Undertale: its like earthbound but no killing
Yeah. Mario was just excited to meet a fellow platformer, because honestly they're hardly as popular as they used to be, and then got confused when Tim rejected the label because he couldn't see any difference between Tim's game and his. Because really, there *aren't* many differences. It's Mario-meets-Prince-of-Persia-meets-Banjo-Kazooie.
even if indies think theyre special, mainstream is what started it all i love indies dont get me wrong but i hate people who think theyre superior because theyre a bunch of privileged hipsters
Kay, Mario was being a nice guy and trying to relate/have a conversation with this guy, and this dude is acting like he's above Mario/acting really pretentious an arrogant in order to appear better than Mario. "Those who bark the loudest, usually are the weakest" is what I'd say to Din.
Yeah, and really why does Tim feel like he has to defend his reputation? I mean, its not like Mario is being rude, or calling his franchise stupid . All Tim is doing is showing how insecure he is/
Drew O'Connor Okay. For those of you who don't want to read the spoiler, please don't click read more. Tim is having an affair with the princess. Like they were in a relationship. I don't know if they still are.
+blazezero123 you know why it was so hard because people were complain it was so easy and if you found it boring its probably because you were playing it alone
Indie fanboys sometimes do. But at the same time some "regular" gamers tend to label anyone who explain why he think the indie market is really way better than the AAA one as a fanboy or "one of those artsy devellopers". Saying that AAA games tend to be shit nowadays, while there are many masterpiece coming from indie devellopers, therefore indie is better, is one thing. Saying indie games are better because they are indie is something else. Also I would say that a good 15$ game made by 4 people is better than a equally good 60$ game made by 200 people.
One of the things I wonder is whether or not he was actually fanboy ing inside and this was all an act he had to keep up to appear sufficiently hipster.
@@connormclernon26 Yeah, the whole joke of the video, would be a "typical" hipster. They do things the world has already done, safely or better, and call it unique.
Still funny well over a year later. XD Mario's naive innocence the whole way through is the best part. "Does THIS look like a goomba to you?!" "...(beat) ...Yes!"
Is there anything worse than the Holier-than-thou attitude that some Indy gamers have? Were it not for awesome games like Banjo Kazooie, Super Mario, Prince of Persia etc, then none of these Indy games would exist! Gotta love satire.
Donye Sly I am honestly scratching my head of how one guy can make a better game then several thousands of people...*cough cough* call of duty *cough cough*
MrPodaky Because they are much smaller games. Modern published games take gygabytes of data, while Cave Story doesn't even reach 1 mb. You need all those people to make a good looking dog! Additionally, it may have something to do with the modern mainstream tendency of focusing on trying to make a game impressive instead of fun. A game full of badass cutscenes may be impressive, but not fun. Indies also tends to keep gameplay simple, thus being more difficult to screw up. There's also a personal taste variable: Indies have a lot of 2d platformers and puzzles (genres a bit neglected by mainstreams), so fans of those genres will like them better. Don't jump into the indie worship bandwagon for that though. Keep in mind that for every Cave Story, there are 99 more obscure half-assed rip offs with Atari era gameplay worse than any COD. When hipsters worship indies and bash the mainstream, they conveniently forget those or (ironically) only played the "mainstream" indies. Then there's the issue of people judging indies' gameplay with lower standards leading to overrating. That is, being more forgiving to their flaws because they kinda "have an excuse" for having them, while mercylessly nitpicking mainstreams. Also, falling in love with features that they would take for granted in non indies. I personally, as a self respecting customer, only care about product quality. If it's flawed, it's flawed. I'm not gonna ignore or downplay the flaw just because the developer was broke. Conversely, when it does something right, I'm not gonna be amazed if every other game does it just as well, wheter they are mainstream or not.
Evil Ryu that the thing though im not bashing the entire mainstream market. Nor the indie market im just saying that cave story is a really good fucking game. Better then cod in my honest opnion. Cod's story mode is one of the biggest jokes in gaming i ever seen. The multiplayer i guess can be fun for other but i really was more frustrated with the community and grinding in order to get the fun stuff. Cave story there was no frustration. Honestly indie games are okay in my book and i'm a little disappointed and bored with mainstream games. Right now when you look at mainstream titles what you'll find is alot of shooters and cod clones. With indies there's a lot more variety. You'll have to sacrifice that variety for lower quality in graphics,sound,story,etc.
MrPodaky There are millions if indie games. Just because the sheer amount at least a few have to be good. I coded a crappy game for a school project in Basic in a single afternoon. That already qualifies as an indie game. It was not good by any definition of the word, but it was enough to get me a good grade.
What he was really thinking: **senpai noticed me!** "Oh wow, nice to meet you Mario. I played your games all the time as a kid, and Mario Maker is fantastic. Any advice? Are there open auditions for the next Smash or Kart?"
un13 I know your comment is very old, but I'm pretty sure Black's point is that Tim (or whatever his name is) wouldn't have thought that Mario Maker is fantastic because Mario Maker (at least based on what Black thought) didn't exist before this video was made.
A decade later, this is still the most kind interpretation of Mario on this channel. At least to me it is. No abusing brother jokes, no Mario being sociopathic, not even a joke about him being an unaware jerk, just an actual guy who was pumped to see another fellow platformer. That’s oddly refreshing and it’s nice to see the comedy play out on someone who isn’t him. Of course, there might be another form of this somewhere on this channel, it’s been a decade after all, but I can’t currently find one on my own so as of now this is the most sane interpretation of Mario on Dorkly.
Meat Boy appears after Tim re-winded time, despite not being there when Mario was talking about Tim literally wearing a suit in the original time frame. Because logic.
Meat Boy has the green tinge power. He can't be rewound. He only made it in time because Tim rewound time giving him the ability to arrive even sooner.
Crystal Gonzalez I was really confused because I played through sands of time when the movie Prince Of Persia : sands of time came out. I was really confused because they were riding ostriches instead of killing sand zombies (then the forgotten sands came out which was the game of the movie)
I'm sure somewhere the creator of Braid is having a fit when people told him his game was just a mishmash of unoriginal ideas being presented pretentiously.
Hate how Tim is taking Mario for a fool when it's so charming how Mario is a fan of Tim's. Make's him seem really humble lol. Also his rebuttles are all perfect lol
If you've never seen it look for the documentary clip of Jonathan Blow (Braid's creator) crying in a dark room because nobody understands his game intercut with clips of Soulja Boy and his friends playing and laughing at the game, it's a real treat.
In my opinion FEZ is really different from Paper Mario. On the other hand, SUPER Paper Mario is more similar. The RPG side has been simplified and the game is platform oriented so it's easier to compare it to FEZ. I loved the two firsts Paper Mario games, so Super Paper Mario felt a bit weird to me. And I don't know if Paper Mario sticker stars is any good. :S
Mighty Bear He only mentioned Super Paper Mario and not the first two. Honestly, all three of them are among my favorite games ever. ...And don't even bother playing Sticker Star. I guarantee you will be absolutely disappointed.
Just about every game is derived from Mario. How? If it has jumping in it in some form or fashion, it was. If Mario wasn't made, a lot of other games wouldn't have been made either. So yes, Tim(Guy I barely even know), be grateful Mario even noticed you. He may as well be your great-great(I don't know how many greats..xD)grand father.
Of course everyone knows Mario, it's because Nintendo keeps pumping out more and more Mario games and keeps milking the franchise dry. They're a megacorp and can afford to do that, while Indie devs normally do one release.
@@garymichalles8383 I don’t know how you somehow forget the fact that these indie dev companies don’t have much money on them usually and can’t just pop out sequels. Also, making modern games from an old and popular franchise = milking?
I love indie games (Mainstream games, for me feel like going through the motions) This is a great satire of the pretentious feeling of many of these games, despite the fact that they stand on the shoulders of the original giants
_MEANWHILE_ Mega Man: It's MEGA great to meet you! Gunvolt: It _Azure_ is! Beck: _Might_ I just say that you two are Number One! Quote: ...What are you doing?
Mario isn't afraid to go... anywhere. I think he's competed in just about every organized sport we have, and now he can possess enemies, too. He even taught us how to type back in the 90s
Another thing that I forgot to mention... Indie games are sometimes innovative and does something new, but far from all the time. They don't HAVE to be either - It's about how well you do it. As this video said, Braid had no real new mechanics, but when you make old things look good and then wrap them up to a neat package, it can become another thing entierly. Take "Dust: An Elysian Tail" for instance. The story was as old as it can get, evil king threatens the world, hero with amnesia must stop him - Yet, it was one of the best stories I have ever seen, simply because everything felt so right and well made about it. Newity doesn't guarantee success, and even the most classical concepts and plots can be godlike when put in the right hands.
beatlesfan134 No, not at all. I get that the point is that some indie game developers look down on major developers, in spite of not having anything new to offer themselves. I merely argued the point that you don't always have to be new, or that sometimes you assemble used concepts into a package, and polish it up. But major developers ain't what they once were.
kamikazadude2 None taken, because I kinda am. I didn't play a single Pokemon game, didn't even complete first halflife, played maybe 3 Mario games, completed none, etc. That's just as legit gaming as anything else. There's tens of thousands of titles out there, yet only a few "mainstream" ones are really respected among gaming. So yes, I am kinda hipster with my gaming at times, and guess what, glad I am. I don't buy into the hype, or follow the stream. I play whatever I wanna play, as everybody should. Gaming is too everchanging to have a static culture, due to the interactive element. Whem it comes to indie developers though, I just think they're usually BETTER. Their games are not as large, but way more polished. If I were to compare the voice acting from "Dust: An elysian tail" with, say, the voice acting from FFXIII or CoD 4, then the latter two sounds apathic in comparision. The same can be said for a lot of key elements when it comes to gaming. It's not about how huge or creative your game is. It's about how well you do with what you got.
Luxai Indie games are not polished, they are usually the opposite; buggy and unbalanced. But when the game does something that makes it stick out, gamers can forgive them for that. I have a whole closet full of games you never heared of. 80% of them are crap, 18 % are playable, but the rest is really awesome.
C: Woah, Frisk! Frisk from Undertale? F: Uh, yes? Do I know you? C: It’s me, Cloud! F: Ohhh, heyyy! It’s Cloud! C: It’s so great to finally meet you! It’s so nice to meet a fellow RPG character! F: Uh, “fellow?” C: Yeahhhh! Your game, it’s like mine! F: Uh, excuse me. “Undertale” is nothing like “Final Not Final Fantasy 7 the 15th” or whatever you’re in. C: Pardon? F: “Undertale” is an arthouse masterpiece NOTHING like your mainstream kiddie games. C: Well, you star in a narrative-heavy exploration game. F: It’s subversive! You wouldn’t understand. C: But you fight Flans in a turn-based combat system. F: Does THIS *pulls out a moldsmal* look like a flan to you? C: Yes! F: Okay, okay, look. I don’t just “fight.” I spare my enemies. C: Like Fallout. F: Uh, y-yeah, but each different playthrough changes the outcome of the game! C: Chrono Trigger, Dragon Age, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Silent Hill, Shadow the Hedgehog... F: Oh forget it! You wouldn’t understand, alright!? You’re just another striped shirt! C: Wha-eh, you are literally wearing a striped shirt right now! F: GRR! You….GAH! Alright hold on. *reloads save state 1* C: Silent Hill, Shadow the Hedgehog... F: Look, we indie games are too unique and original for YOU to comprehend. Ness: Guys, I’m just a boy up against a seemingly unstoppable force! I better go save the world, while navigating a hopelessly convoluted plot! YAHOOOOOO!! Shulk: Yeah, I wasn’t gonna say anything, but…I kinda have to do that too.
Imagine a real life friend who just ran up to you and shouted “GUYS. MY GIRLFRIEND HAS BEEN CAPTURED. I BETTER GO RESCUE HER, WITH JUMPING. *YAHOO!* “ like ok Kevin have fun
"Does THIS look like a Goomba?"
"Yes"
Mario looked so proud of himself at that moment.
that's rigth
Star Bomber he look stupid but he is right
Wendy?! Well, that child restaurant mascot has certainly grown up.
@leksos gru you prefer McDonalds?
Star Bomber
That PFP…
*_I bet someone’s going to do something about that…_*
Tim's just jealous that Mario actually _gets_ the girl the end
hahahaha no, he never got the girl
Well Mario is the hero and Tim tuns out to be the villain so...
jrpludacrous Unless you count the anime Mario Bros movie
jrpludacrous oh goddamn
SPOILERS
Not in Super Mario Odyssey
this Tim acts like 99% of the gamers at my school
i know some of them hate platformers and retro games and their justification to why they hate these kinds of games are simply "cause they're retro"
Dennydo1 So if thats thier case then without knowing it there also saying F%$# DOOM and Goldeneye 64. Because with them FPS's would TOTALY be the same. If thats the case FPS's are WAY more retro they have an entire arcade category of them but hey not like arcades are the reason for home video games am I right :-|
Dennydo1 That sounds exactly like my over Cod-er friend who doesn't play games like minecraft and basically anything under 1080P specifically because of the graphics.
Brobuscus115 i hate those people. if you go to the watchdogs trailer its full of graphic whores
Dennydo1 ohm MY GOD, someone that had the same problem as me, THANK GOD i am not alone.
Mario wins: Originality.
+Vini Kämpferherz Not like Mario tought
+Vini Kämpferherz yeah, like Mario? no, there was not games like that. Fluent controls, nice and easy mechanics, balanced challenge, different and reskinned enemies. I mean the game was unique and not crappy.
Games before mario on NES were faulty and had shitty controllers and stuff. Not even amazing games like megaman 2 had the amazing controls mario had.
+Vini Kämpferherz Yeah but Mario was still rescuing damsels, jumping on enemies and running along platforms before it was cool.
Pac-Land inspired Mario.
Pac-Land came out in 1984. Donkey Kong came out in 1981 and Mario Bros. in 1983.
does this look like a Goomba to you?
honestly it actually kinda does
so true
+Carlos Rosado That's because they're actually based on Goombas. The game actually drew a lot of inspiration from the Mario franchise, which makes this video all the more funny.
Yeh
yep
Yerp skedoodle
It’s even funnier now that Braid has lost its relevance except maybe as a historical relic & the remaster bombed.
I like how it pretty much makes fun of the creator of Braid through Tim.
@@supersonical8770Making a vid in the style of average hating on something popular isn't very impressive.
Spoken like someone who doesn't actually know it's influence, a big part of it not really getting popular with the lack of advertising.
I feel like thats just going too far. The relevance thing.
@@mistertagomago7974 Not a lot of people remember that it existed.
The weirdest thing is that Super meat boy only appears AFTER Tim rewinds time. its like he was waiting there to back up Mario.
His game is the best indie platformer anyway
I'd totally believe the peepee poopoo man would be waiting JUST to undermine braid's pretentious ass even harder.
@@therealMrAI feel like you should rewatch this video again.
@@WalterUndergoWhy? He didn't say anything that indicated he didn't understand what was going on.
Honestly, this is the best depiction of Mario that's ever been on this channel. He's usually a jerk, but here, he just wanted to meet some fellow platformer pals. No side-jabs, no bullying Luigi, just Mario being Mario.
since when was mario a jerk? is this just because of the time he stepped on luigis foot one time? I don't even think thats cannon. (Its probably also because of goddamn matpat -_-)
@@LennoxThePhoenix I think he meant Dorkly Mario, not official Mario
Who's Luigi? I know some Green Mario dude who sometimes acts as his chauffer or something, that the guy?
Limbo, that isn't your girlfriend. Its your sister...
Could be both. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Sweet Home Alabama
incest is wincest
Still a close female, even if she's not his girlfriend. Hence why he said "kinda".
But to be honest the game never really tells us whether or not the protagonist of Limbo is saving her or not.
"I rewind time"
"Prince of-a Persia"
"Put some puzzles into the mix"
still Prince of Persia, buddy
"I rewind time"
Even Will Smith can do that
@@marcoswolffenbuttelmoreira4404 YAH
Oh a banjo and kazooie
i mean at this point rewinding time with puzzles is something a lot of games have done.
Sonic CD.
No wonder the princess runs away from this guy. He's a goddamn hipster.
And she's supposedly an allegory for the A-Bomb...
@@BenHopkins1000 I guess it was made to kill non hipsters, now that explains why she runs from Tim.
Megaman: WHOA! Cuphead!
Cuphead: UM, yes? Do I know you?
MM: It's me, Megaman!
CH: OH, yay, it's Megaman...
MM: It's great to finally meet you! It's so neat to finally meet a fellow sidescroller action star!
CH: UM, fellow?
MM: Yeah! Your game is a lot like mine!
CH: Excuse me? Cuphead is nothing like Megaman 69 Super Ultra HD Remix or whatever it is you're in. Cuphead is an arthouse masterpiece, nothing like your cancelled never-coming-back games.
MM: Well, you jump and shoot through levels.
CH: It's dynamic. You wouldn't understand...
MM: But you shoot Mettaurs!
CH: Does this (pulls out mushroom) look like a Mettaur to you?
MM: Yep!
CH: Okay, okay, look. I don't just jump & shoot. I fight an array of wild boss fights.
MM: Like Gunstar Heroes.
CH: URK...yeah, well, add in stage rankings based on performance!
MM: Sonic the Hedgehog.
CH: UGH, forget it! You wouldn't understand! You're just another strawhead!
MM: Wha-your head literally has a straw coming out of it!
CH: ARGH, YOU-! Wait, hold on-(Pauses and selects Retry) Look, we Indie Games are too unique and original for you to comprehend!
For the rank one, even the Megaman franchise has it with MM Zero.
This would work better with either Bill Rizer from Contra or Marco from Metal Slug....
CrazytankXD Your comment needs more likes
And now Megaman games will back
Basicly saying you can do the same joke for most indy games.
Does this look like a goomba to you?
LOL hell yeah it does!!
MoonLiteWolf it does
ya. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😉 reblon. ahhhhhhhh😂😂
MoonLiteWolf when I saw it I said OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE I also died at that part
an ugly goomba
MoonLiteWolf, death to furries. The taxidermists send their regards.
Mario's so innocent about the whole situation... It's adorable.
There are two types of indie developers it seems...
Type 1: "My game is so fucking original it has brain juice flowering from every fucking orafice. You are just so mainstream you don't understand my immense artistic ability!"
Type 2: "Hey guys I made this cool game that we had a lot of fun making!"
Lets be honest, all the best games out there came from type 2. I never got the push to force "art" onto people, because in all honesty the best of art comes naturally or alongside the process of enjoyment.
+Waltard Teh Burban so true.
I think we all like type 2 better
yooka-laylees a type 2
'I made a cool game that WE...'
Type 2 is the legion.
Sorry if it sounds like I'm making fun of your comment, but I just found that kinda funny.
I actually thought FNAF was pretty good. Plus i believe it's hit the mainstream category once they make officially licensed toys for the series.
7 years later and the only one who is still famous is still Mario.
Limbo and Super meat boy are still massive.
@Back from the Deapool Lol
And pretty sure the majority of people watching this never even heard of Braid until this video, and I never seen anyone play it without looking it up
@@stomper1232 who or what are limbo super meats and braids
@@goldenhorse4823 who or what is limbo and super meat
I love how casual and relaxed Mario is and yet he still somehow insults Tim.
And doesn't intend to do it XD
Mario can have complex stories look at super paper Mario
you just won the "Best Edds World Icon Award."
And the rpgs.
Or bowser inside story
except there jumpn runs and platformers save princess done
So Mario only has stories in his spin-off games, not the ones people actually give a shit about. Ok then.
what Indie Game creators think
Braid: "unique and original"
FEZ: "unique and original"
Limbo: "unique and original"
Undertale: its like earthbound but no killing
love u
+Potato Studios I take it you haven't played the genocide route of Undertale, or even the neutral. As you can kill people.
the pacifist route is the true ending
+Potato Studios are you upset that he was hinting criticism of your favorite game?
+Ole Olsen ... Are you high, or incredibly stupid?
At least Mario gets the girl.
+GhostPlanetFilms Yeah, Mario at least can save her. But for the other guy... heh... She nuclear explodes!
Andres Perez Yep!
Spoiler alert: Tim is actually the villain
Gotham2298 Yup!
Being a person who literally just read up on the Braid plot to get this, I'd say that's a pretty good shot.
Wow, this video just described Phil Fish in every possible way.
Nunya Bidness thats what i thought too, tim should have been replaced with fez.
drag00n365 But FEZ is actually a really good game, regardless of its developer.
drag00n365 ...But you guys do have a point. =P
***** 6,500 people disagree with you that the game is bad
***** 6500 people rated positive for fez on steam
I feel Tim is quite stupid here. From my perspective, Mario was only trying to be friendly here.
Yeah. Mario was just excited to meet a fellow platformer, because honestly they're hardly as popular as they used to be, and then got confused when Tim rejected the label because he couldn't see any difference between Tim's game and his.
Because really, there *aren't* many differences. It's Mario-meets-Prince-of-Persia-meets-Banjo-Kazooie.
mariogalaxy64100 In other words, They're jerks!
Welcome to the joke!
Dan Baldwick limbo boy wasnt a jerk
+Anime is fun! I know right? What a douche bag.
even if indies think theyre special, mainstream is what started it all
i love indies dont get me wrong but i hate people who think theyre superior because theyre a bunch of privileged hipsters
ugh, hipsters.
The devs of this game took great inspiration from mario. There was a documentary.
great doc they made a part 2
I agree. It's teh same for a lot of mediums. Just because something is slightly different that makes it better than a classic.
"checking your privilege" is racist.
so, i *have* to feel sorry for someone if they're black? thats pretty damn racist.
So it’s 2019 and I forgot about Braid even existed.
In regards to the game, that's depressing.
Kay, Mario was being a nice guy and trying to relate/have a conversation with this guy, and this dude is acting like he's above Mario/acting really pretentious an arrogant in order to appear better than Mario.
"Those who bark the loudest, usually are the weakest" is what I'd say to Din.
I'd like to agree with you. It's actually quite amusing how Tim is trying to defend his reputation and Mario is just trolling him with ease.
Yeah, and really why does Tim feel like he has to defend his reputation? I mean, its not like Mario is being rude, or calling his franchise stupid . All Tim is doing is showing how insecure he is/
Drew O'Connor Can I give you a spoiler? It might explain why Tim is so insecure.
Sure go ahead. Im probably not gonna play the game anyway :) lol
Drew O'Connor Okay. For those of you who don't want to read the spoiler, please don't click read more.
Tim is having an affair with the princess. Like they were in a relationship. I don't know if they still are.
I don't care if a game is Indie, Triple A, etc. The game is good? Ok good enough for me.
How gamers SHOULD feel.
How it FEELS to just enjoy things you enjoy
You're telling me you actually enjoy playing video games? What kind of a gamer are you?!
Oh dude, you should be honored that the God of all plataform games knows your name! Gee!
+Giga Slime
More like the God of gaming characters.
A S R Oh yeah :V
DUGTRIO ZANGADO This.
Not only knows his name but is HONORED to meet him. Mario’s humbling himself to an indie character
And is also being nice and congratulatory.
Mario was unknowingly schooling him.
yeah he wasn't even trying... no actually he wasn't
yes he was schooling him. what I meant is that Mario wasn't even trying to school him
This video perfectly summs up that indie titles get away with doing thing gamers would crucify AAA titles for.
***** 3D World was pretty boring compared to Tropical Freeze and Wonderful 101.
***** Basically 3D land for Wii U could have been better but it was boring compared to it plus easier.
+blazezero123 you know why it was so hard because people were complain it was so easy and if you found it boring its probably because you were playing it alone
+CHEEKI BREEKI Super Mario Sunshine was shit.
Austin Reed I liked it
Do Indie fanboys really act like this?
The Otaku Dragon Slayer I think it’s making fun of indie developers not fans of indie games.
Thomas Raines but do they act like this?
I would say yes but depends on who which dev and who.
yes, some indie only fanboys does act like indoes are always better, but I never heard developers acting that way
Indie fanboys sometimes do. But at the same time some "regular" gamers tend to label anyone who explain why he think the indie market is really way better than the AAA one as a fanboy or "one of those artsy devellopers". Saying that AAA games tend to be shit nowadays, while there are many masterpiece coming from indie devellopers, therefore indie is better, is one thing. Saying indie games are better because they are indie is something else.
Also I would say that a good 15$ game made by 4 people is better than a equally good 60$ game made by 200 people.
This short aged pretty well, ngl
Nah.
Sooo... Tim just keeps a whateverthefuck in his pocket?
it's a goomba
+arbiter11171 Is that from Mario? NO! So it's not a Goomba.
+1223333nbahal A goomba by any other name gets its skull crushed in the same.
-Siddharta Gautama
Monstar
+arbiter11171 therfore, it is a goomba.
Funny enough, it turns out you were the villain in Braid., and the princess was trying to get away from you.
That's why Tim says it's subversive.
seriously Tim
at least he knows your name
the moment he says your name AND you're game you start insulting him
One of the things I wonder is whether or not he was actually fanboy ing inside and this was all an act he had to keep up to appear sufficiently hipster.
He was angry because he felt too mainstream
At least Mario still killed his argument. And even if he didn’t. Meat boy just ended it all with his story.
@@connormclernon26 Yeah, the whole joke of the video, would be a "typical" hipster. They do things the world has already done, safely or better, and call it unique.
"Does this look like a Goomba to you?"
"Yes!"
Meat Boy is on Mario's side.
Yes he is on mario side
Still funny well over a year later. XD
Mario's naive innocence the whole way through is the best part.
"Does THIS look like a goomba to you?!"
"...(beat) ...Yes!"
It's still funny 12 years later especially since nobody gives a crap about Braid remastered.
Is there anything worse than the Holier-than-thou attitude that some Indy gamers have? Were it not for awesome games like Banjo Kazooie, Super Mario, Prince of Persia etc, then none of these Indy games would exist! Gotta love satire.
The Holier-than-thou attitude unfortunately affects everything.
I guarantee that Superman 64, Bubsy 3D, and Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis for the GBA are all worse than some holier-than-thou attitude XD
@sterlingmuse5808 at least Bubsy is kinda funny
"Does THIS look like a Goomba to you!?"
".... That is literally one design detail away from starting copyright lawsuits, YES!!!"
Hipsters... stop fooling yourself thinking that a game is better than it really is because it has no budget.
Donye Sly Cave story was awesome because it was cave story. It was good IN SPITE of it's low budget, not BECAUSE of it.
Donye Sly
I am honestly scratching my head of how one guy can make a better game then several thousands of people...*cough cough* call of duty *cough cough*
MrPodaky
Because they are much smaller games. Modern published games take gygabytes of data, while Cave Story doesn't even reach 1 mb. You need all those people to make a good looking dog! Additionally, it may have something to do with the modern mainstream tendency of focusing on trying to make a game impressive instead of fun. A game full of badass cutscenes may be impressive, but not fun. Indies also tends to keep gameplay simple, thus being more difficult to screw up.
There's also a personal taste variable: Indies have a lot of 2d platformers and puzzles (genres a bit neglected by mainstreams), so fans of those genres will like them better.
Don't jump into the indie worship bandwagon for that though. Keep in mind that for every Cave Story, there are 99 more obscure half-assed rip offs with Atari era gameplay worse than any COD. When hipsters worship indies and bash the mainstream, they conveniently forget those or (ironically) only played the "mainstream" indies.
Then there's the issue of people judging indies' gameplay with lower standards leading to overrating. That is, being more forgiving to their flaws because they kinda "have an excuse" for having them, while mercylessly nitpicking mainstreams. Also, falling in love with features that they would take for granted in non indies.
I personally, as a self respecting customer, only care about product quality. If it's flawed, it's flawed. I'm not gonna ignore or downplay the flaw just because the developer was broke. Conversely, when it does something right, I'm not gonna be amazed if every other game does it just as well, wheter they are mainstream or not.
Evil Ryu
that the thing though im not bashing the entire mainstream market. Nor the indie market im just saying that cave story is a really good fucking game. Better then cod in my honest opnion. Cod's story mode is one of the biggest jokes in gaming i ever seen. The multiplayer i guess can be fun for other but i really was more frustrated with the community and grinding in order to get the fun stuff. Cave story there was no frustration. Honestly indie games are okay in my book and i'm a little disappointed and bored with mainstream games. Right now when you look at mainstream titles what you'll find is alot of shooters and cod clones. With indies there's a lot more variety. You'll have to sacrifice that variety for lower quality in graphics,sound,story,etc.
MrPodaky There are millions if indie games. Just because the sheer amount at least a few have to be good. I coded a crappy game for a school project in Basic in a single afternoon. That already qualifies as an indie game. It was not good by any definition of the word, but it was enough to get me a good grade.
Aww, I just want to give Mario a hug.
What he was really thinking:
**senpai noticed me!** "Oh wow, nice to meet you Mario. I played your games all the time as a kid, and Mario Maker is fantastic. Any advice? Are there open auditions for the next Smash or Kart?"
this video was made LONG back before mario maker existed
+The Blue Redstone Your point, exactly?
+The Blue Redstone No Mario Maker actually existed far before but Nintendo just licensed it.
"I've-a reserved-a slot for Shantae, you pretentious-a fart! And don't try to help my mediocrity, Ninty will find-a good-a solution!"
un13 I know your comment is very old, but I'm pretty sure Black's point is that Tim (or whatever his name is) wouldn't have thought that Mario Maker is fantastic because Mario Maker (at least based on what Black thought) didn't exist before this video was made.
A decade later, this is still the most kind interpretation of Mario on this channel. At least to me it is.
No abusing brother jokes, no Mario being sociopathic, not even a joke about him being an unaware jerk, just an actual guy who was pumped to see another fellow platformer. That’s oddly refreshing and it’s nice to see the comedy play out on someone who isn’t him.
Of course, there might be another form of this somewhere on this channel, it’s been a decade after all, but I can’t currently find one on my own so as of now this is the most sane interpretation of Mario on Dorkly.
Meat Boy appears after Tim re-winded time, despite not being there when Mario was talking about Tim literally wearing a suit in the original time frame. Because logic.
Meat Boy has the green tinge power. He can't be rewound. He only made it in time because Tim rewound time giving him the ability to arrive even sooner.
Ever heard if the Butterfly Effect?
I think Meat Boy just felt like being an asshole after listening to the argument.
"My name is CJSaikoro7493, and I am going to overanalyze a comedy sketch while completely ignoring the point of it. Because of REASONS!
1981cbrinkm you know that also applies to you for thinking my comment was serious right? Lol
0:44 - That actually does look somewhat like a Goomba...and I feel sorry for Mario, he was just trying to have a friendly conversation
Hipsters and indie games in a nutshell.
Well, indie games are good. But hipsters should go die.
Matt McLeod Anyone who thinks a person should die because their lifestyle is different from there own might as well die.
Rinku Starr Hey, what'd he do to you?
@Piibbish We can all die. Humans are very susceptible to death.
Piibbish Nah. I'm not ready to die.
Mario talkin to a hipster
Whether you're a fan of Mario or not, you can't help but wanna give him a hug after this :'(
At least Mario isn't a stalker creep like Tim is, and rescues the princess instead of trying to kidnap her.
Tim: Does this look like a Goomba to you?
Mario: Yes
Tim: Okay, okay! Look I don't just jump! I rewind time!
Like the Prince of Persia.
I like Prince of Persia! the games are better then the movie they made :]
Crystal Gonzalez
All games are better than the movie versions. Except of course games based on movies, witch usually really suck.
Don Chong That's true lol
Crystal Gonzalez I was really confused because I played through sands of time when the movie Prince Of Persia : sands of time came out. I was really confused because they were riding ostriches instead of killing sand zombies (then the forgotten sands came out which was the game of the movie)
I'm sure somewhere the creator of Braid is having a fit when people told him his game was just a mishmash of unoriginal ideas being presented pretentiously.
So, he was angry some people had the guys to tell him the truth.
Indie Games: Where "Follow the Leader" is perfectly acceptable as long as it looks artsy
i support indie games, but when i saw indie game the movie, i died a little inside
Ah, Indie Game The Movie. Or as I like to call it, "Phil Fish Is An Egocentric Asshole."
Hey, imagine a movie about the 2014 Game Jam.
Graham Kristensen
People had been heckling him continiously for 5 years when that docmentary came out. I think anyone would be stressed out.
Johnathan McNutt The documentary came out in 2012. Besides, Phil brought most of the negative feedback onto himself.
From the title alone i smell hipster garbage.
Can we just appreciate the fact that they actually used backwards subtitles for the rewind part?
Wow i just realized that...
Hate how Tim is taking Mario for a fool when it's so charming how Mario is a fan of Tim's. Make's him seem really humble lol. Also his rebuttles are all perfect lol
Apparently this is a parody on how pretentious the game's developer was about the game.
Damn fr?
@@backupsx9912 Yeah, the creator is a bit of an asshole.
If you've never seen it look for the documentary clip of Jonathan Blow (Braid's creator) crying in a dark room because nobody understands his game intercut with clips of Soulja Boy and his friends playing and laughing at the game, it's a real treat.
i love how they added limbo into it
I KNEW that was the Limbo kid!
Braid was one of the most impressive dismal failures of a let down I've ever bought.
"I am not just jumping. I can rewind time."
MARIO USED RETROARCH!
IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE!
they're just jealous that mario has sequels and spin-offs.
Limbo: Girlfriend, sister, basically the same thing? o.O
"Kind of"
lol
+tarquinnff3 Except either Limbo killed his sister or his sister killed him.
+Jack Mehoff Neither can Luke Skywalker.
+tarquinnff3 In the south, at least...
The only difference from tim and mario is that Tim was the villain all along, and mario is the hero, in every game we play
Not in Donkey Kong Jr.
Not in the original Donkey Kong. DK kidnaps Pauline because Jumpman (Mario) had been mistreating him.
This strangely aged well.
With every year, this video gets more and more relevant.
And Braid less and less.
Daily reminded that Fez is a Super Paper Mario poor rip-off for hipsters.
LOL what did you say? I mean, Paper Mario rocks but FEZ has nothing to do with it…
I disagree...
In my opinion FEZ is really different from Paper Mario.
On the other hand, SUPER Paper Mario is more similar. The RPG side has been simplified and the game is platform oriented so it's easier to compare it to FEZ.
I loved the two firsts Paper Mario games, so Super Paper Mario felt a bit weird to me. And I don't know if Paper Mario sticker stars is any good. :S
Mighty Bear He only mentioned Super Paper Mario and not the first two. Honestly, all three of them are among my favorite games ever.
...And don't even bother playing Sticker Star. I guarantee you will be absolutely disappointed.
Vetuyasha wtf is fez? sounds LAMMEEEE
Anyone else came here after the announcement of Braid anniversary edition?
All these years later, and Braid isn’t even thought of by todays kids
This has aged WELL
Limbo, she's your sister.
how is he to know everything is dark to him
He said kinda.
why do you think he said kinda?
jeramahia123 lol we meet again Morgan Freeman.
10 years later and I still have no idea what Braid is.
He is so proud of all the innovation his grandchildren caused in the platforming genre. He was so happy so see them
"Does THIS look like a Goomba to you?"
Actually, I always thought they were lions.
It is more like a hyper realistic Kirby enemy
***** Haven't played many Kirby games, so I wouldn't know.
It looks like a haired galoomba, which is apparently the name for Super Mario World's goombas now
Draco491Central I don't see it.
Pretty sure super mario world's goombas were "Kuriboh".
Mario wins this argument.
"Like Prince of Persia!" I am irrationally happy that someone still remembers PoP. The Sands of Time is one of the best games I've played.
Yup, prince of persia suddenly became underrated, like what the duck is wrong with people
@@arva5880 IKR, glad I'm not the only one who considers the franchise underrated
Remake is coming out soon.
@@crusader0074 And people are already hating on it.
I like how everyone's coming back to this after the creator said the remake bombed financially.
What do ya mean by "bombed" exactly?
Wow! This video aged like a fine wine, I'm not joking
Braid had no staying power
It did.
11 years later and "what is Braid?"
10 year old video is still relevant today with the amount of pretentious gate keeping indie snobs. It will never end
Right? My fave Dorkly vid im fact! 🙌
Hey Frog Glen! It's such an honor to meet a fellow UA-camr~
xD
@@Shalltear-Bloodfallen Hahahahaha! 🤣
it scares me how people like you still exist in the gaming scene
This aged well
So could anyone else not stop watching this, or is it just me?
this video was the first and only exposure i had to braid when i was younger, good to know that wasn’t a mistake on my part
I kinda like this Mario. It looks kinda cute. Mario is not a jerk in this and is orange kinda.
When someone says "you wouldn't understand," the other person usually understands all too well, and is not buying the boloney.
Just about every game is derived from Mario. How? If it has jumping in it in some form or fashion, it was. If Mario wasn't made, a lot of other games wouldn't have been made either. So yes, Tim(Guy I barely even know), be grateful Mario even noticed you. He may as well be your great-great(I don't know how many greats..xD)grand father.
Jokes on Craid and Limbo, nobody remembers their games
You'll be surprised that Limbo is still remembered by many lmao
@@Iloveyou-dz7mq Still, Craid isn't
@@scoobydouche9991 Yeah they ain't popular indie games like Undertale or Five Nights at Freddy's no more.
@abrahammartinez5466
Haven't been since a couple years after being released
All these years later, everyone still knows Mario. Does anyone remember Braid?
i never heard of it before seeing this video, so....
What the heck even is braid anyway???
Of course everyone knows Mario, it's because Nintendo keeps pumping out more and more Mario games and keeps milking the franchise dry. They're a megacorp and can afford to do that, while Indie devs normally do one release.
@@garymichalles8383 "milking franchises dry" , meanwhile in reality Mario Kart 8 still tops sales ...
@@garymichalles8383 I don’t know how you somehow forget the fact that these indie dev companies don’t have much money on them usually and can’t just pop out sequels. Also, making modern games from an old and popular franchise = milking?
I love indie games (Mainstream games, for me feel like going through the motions)
This is a great satire of the pretentious feeling of many of these games, despite the fact that they stand on the shoulders of the original giants
Tim seems like the kind of guy that sits at Starbucks all day with his laptop working on his "screenplay" while making fun of people going to work.
_MEANWHILE_
Mega Man: It's MEGA great to meet you!
Gunvolt: It _Azure_ is!
Beck: _Might_ I just say that you two are Number One!
Quote: ...What are you doing?
Mario isn't afraid to go... anywhere. I think he's competed in just about every organized sport we have, and now he can possess enemies, too.
He even taught us how to type back in the 90s
Hold up, how come Meat Boy didn't show up in the other time universe? Suspicious that Meat Boy -.-
Braid has just been released on the Switch for those interested!
Another thing that I forgot to mention... Indie games are sometimes innovative and does something new, but far from all the time. They don't HAVE to be either - It's about how well you do it. As this video said, Braid had no real new mechanics, but when you make old things look good and then wrap them up to a neat package, it can become another thing entierly.
Take "Dust: An Elysian Tail" for instance. The story was as old as it can get, evil king threatens the world, hero with amnesia must stop him - Yet, it was one of the best stories I have ever seen, simply because everything felt so right and well made about it. Newity doesn't guarantee success, and even the most classical concepts and plots can be godlike when put in the right hands.
You're missing the point of the video.
beatlesfan134 No, not at all. I get that the point is that some indie game developers look down on major developers, in spite of not having anything new to offer themselves.
I merely argued the point that you don't always have to be new, or that sometimes you assemble used concepts into a package, and polish it up. But major developers ain't what they once were.
Luxai No offence but you kinda sound like a hipster there.
kamikazadude2 None taken, because I kinda am. I didn't play a single Pokemon game, didn't even complete first halflife, played maybe 3 Mario games, completed none, etc. That's just as legit gaming as anything else. There's tens of thousands of titles out there, yet only a few "mainstream" ones are really respected among gaming. So yes, I am kinda hipster with my gaming at times, and guess what, glad I am. I don't buy into the hype, or follow the stream. I play whatever I wanna play, as everybody should. Gaming is too everchanging to have a static culture, due to the interactive element.
Whem it comes to indie developers though, I just think they're usually BETTER. Their games are not as large, but way more polished. If I were to compare the voice acting from "Dust: An elysian tail" with, say, the voice acting from FFXIII or CoD 4, then the latter two sounds apathic in comparision. The same can be said for a lot of key elements when it comes to gaming. It's not about how huge or creative your game is. It's about how well you do with what you got.
Luxai
Indie games are not polished, they are usually the opposite; buggy and unbalanced. But when the game does something that makes it stick out, gamers can forgive them for that.
I have a whole closet full of games you never heared of. 80% of them are crap, 18 % are playable, but the rest is really awesome.
C: Woah, Frisk! Frisk from Undertale?
F: Uh, yes? Do I know you?
C: It’s me, Cloud!
F: Ohhh, heyyy! It’s Cloud!
C: It’s so great to finally meet you! It’s so nice to meet a fellow RPG character!
F: Uh, “fellow?”
C: Yeahhhh! Your game, it’s like mine!
F: Uh, excuse me. “Undertale” is nothing like “Final Not Final Fantasy 7 the 15th” or whatever you’re in.
C: Pardon?
F: “Undertale” is an arthouse masterpiece NOTHING like your mainstream kiddie games.
C: Well, you star in a narrative-heavy exploration game.
F: It’s subversive! You wouldn’t understand.
C: But you fight Flans in a turn-based combat system.
F: Does THIS *pulls out a moldsmal* look like a flan to you?
C: Yes!
F: Okay, okay, look. I don’t just “fight.” I spare my enemies.
C: Like Fallout.
F: Uh, y-yeah, but each different playthrough changes the outcome of the game!
C: Chrono Trigger, Dragon Age, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Silent Hill, Shadow the Hedgehog...
F: Oh forget it! You wouldn’t understand, alright!? You’re just another striped shirt!
C: Wha-eh, you are literally wearing a striped shirt right now!
F: GRR! You….GAH! Alright hold on. *reloads save state 1*
C: Silent Hill, Shadow the Hedgehog...
F: Look, we indie games are too unique and original for YOU to comprehend.
Ness: Guys, I’m just a boy up against a seemingly unstoppable force! I better go save the world, while navigating a hopelessly convoluted plot! YAHOOOOOO!!
Shulk: Yeah, I wasn’t gonna say anything, but…I kinda have to do that too.
Did you just write a whole paragraph about how a conversation would go between Frisk and Cloud? How much time do you have on your hands?
The Doge Next Door It took like 15 minutes. I just took the script from this video and and rewrote a few parts.
Friendly Cordyceps Oh, I thought it would take much longer
i was thinking C was Chara
But EarthBound and Xenoblade aren't Indie games...
Imagine a real life friend who just ran up to you and shouted “GUYS. MY GIRLFRIEND HAS BEEN CAPTURED. I BETTER GO RESCUE HER, WITH JUMPING. *YAHOO!* “
like ok Kevin have fun
"Does this look like a Goomba to you?"
"Yes!!"
I died.
This perfectly captures how I feel about indy titles from this time period.
"Mario is too mainstream"
Minecraft and Fortnite: Am I a joke to you?
Tim is mad,why?
He's a dr strange + Mario game.