There are a few issues I have with shaker pencils, one of which is that they aren't faster at all. Every time someone makes a video on a shaker pencil they exaggerate on how long it takes to click the top of the pencil when, in reality, it takes the same or less time than the shaker pencil. Another issue is that you can't really control how much lead comes out because of how forceful you must shake the pencil. Not only is this an issue, but I don't want to be seen furiously shaking my pencil when in class or writing something down in public. I suppose it really is preference but it I'd rather have something like a DelGuard that gives me a little more utility.
Ebrithil1 the Zebra Delgaurd is literally a beast of a pencil. Not only can you draw with very light lines but you can press down harder for a more darker tone :D
I have both and I actually prefer the mono. First, it looks and feels luxurious (it’s heavier because of the weight thing and I prefer pens/pencils that is the same width throughout the body, I also would’ve prefer the black model, I ordered it but they sent me the original mono design instead, oh well) and second, you don’t really need to furiously shake it, just a firm jerk and you’re good to go, looks exactly like if you’re trying to unclog ink with a pen, very normal. Trust me, I had this exact same fear that someone would think I’m weird but honestly, it only bugs me when I’m doing exams or in a particularly quiet classroom since it is a little loud. I find that I shake twice for more lead and once for less, I prefer shaking twice. That way I can sort of control it. Another reason is the needle tip, I don’t really like the conical tip on the Delguard, that way I can graph or sketch with ease, also useful in geometry. But since I’ve only used normal pencils before, with the clicker on the top, I’m used to pressing it on my face/shoulder (sounds weird but hey, works for me) so sometimes I press it to find the clicker is in a different position haha.
Also Idk if something is wrong with my Delguard or it’s just faulty design or I just write weirdly (I wasn’t taught how to write properly as a child so I write with my ring finger rather than my middle) but I find that the guard thing doesn’t extend quickly enough when I put vertical pressure on it.
Actually shaker pencils can also be used as a regular mech pencils cause it can be clicked to advance the lead, but for a too lazy like me i think shaker pencils are convenient, if you don't want the show yourself shaking the pencil in public u can just simply click it, but this thing is just so cool i am just using the tombow one and trust me its sooo satisfying 😂😂
Hi! I got the Tombrow Mono Graph Pencil, and it has a lock feature so that lead does not come when it shakes in a backpack, car, etc. The problem I have however, is that when I do shake the pencil to get more lead out of it, it just got in to the lock and doesn’t allow lead. Do you know why this is happening ?
@@NoName-je1qh Hello! I believe we have the same pencil as mine also has that lock feature you're talking about. There's a label there that says "on off" right beside the clip. I think you just need to slide down the clip to disable the lock then shake the pencil and check if lead is coming out, just as how you'd slide up to lock it, hence the label. That's what I always do with mine. If you have tried it and it doesn't work then there might be something wrong with your pencil. Sometimes it would also take a while before lead comes out when you shake the pencil, from experience.
It actually takes more effort to shake it than just press it 😅... If conventional pencils were shake types and someone invented a press type... Now that would be worth it lol Edit... I had a pretty cheap mechanical pencil when I was a kid... It had the press button right behind or in front of the finger when you hold it .. the concept was good but the pencil was cheap... I don't find such mechanisms anymore...
These are actually amazing, but for some reason, I always loose my best pencils. Either someone steals them, or they fall out. My most famous is the, Graphgrear 1000 mechanical pencil, which was always stolen. And the Tombow was lost, but it was pretty cool.
You realise there are mechanical pencils that have the clicker right where you rest your index finger when writing? Quicker than shaking and the traditional method
Jazz A Not if you are used to either the push top (traditional) or shaker. Plus, the side click is not available in more obscure tip sizes like 0.3 mm. The shaker and push top are the only two available in 0.3 mm.
I found there to be no adjustment period (considering I've used push clickers for over 10 years throughout school~uni) because the clicker is right on the pen pad and your finger naturally rests just next to it. As for the tip sizes, I've never looked into that but I can confirm mine is 0.5mm, I would agree it would be nice to have a smaller tip size!
@@bballwatcher2224 well... I have a really cheap paper:mate which has the three things, shaker, button on the top and button on the index finger... All for under 3$
i love shaker mechanical pencil since 1995 i stared with Pilot the shaker H1010 it's a beauty design and really usefull thenks for this video i enjoy!!!!
I like shaker pencil cuz I don't like changing my grip while writing, and especially drawing. Otherwise, some of my friends with smaller hands also prefer them as reaching the top for lead advancement is usually a bit more troublesome for them =]
You can actually open the uni alpha gel by holding the silver part in one hand and the body section in the other and twisting it open and there is a vey dense spring inside (I know this from playing with my pencil for years during class and I had the uni for over five years and it’s still good as new)
Definitely my top pick for mechanical pencils. The new Uni Kuru Toga Advance that just came out too so I know what I'll be buying in the near future. lol
let me know how this sounds in class while taking an exam. it might also help to ask a nearby friend how you look when the old lead piece runs out and you have to "shake" 30 times for another piece of lead to feed.
Personally I prefer the uni, because of the grip, and because I’m a student that prefers using pencil (in math it really helps), and prolonged use of that tombow one without a decent grip gives me callouses on my index finger.
David Zhang There are actually two more relatively new mechanisms: bend knock and automatic. The automatic one does not require any push of a button, since pressure from writing will cause the clutch to open up, allowing more lead to come out of the lead sleeve. The bend knock is literally described as bending a certain part of the pencil which activates the clutch. Notes: the clutch is what holds the lead in place. Also, when I refer to lead, I do not mean Pb. Finally, I am only 17. Have a good day.
Another alternative to the clcicky-top pencils is the ones that have a bend in the middle and can be extended by squeezing against the middle part of the pencil. A good example is the Tombow Olno, but there are others, even classy ones in a metal finish. I'd recommend them as they are quick so use and you don't have to adjust your grip to extend the lead and you also don't need to pick your hand up off the page like you would with a shaker. Also a bit more discrete for use at work or in class.
Hi! I got the Tombrow Mono Graph Pencil, and it has a lock feature so that lead does not come when it shakes in a backpack, car, etc. The problem I have however, is that when I do shake the pencil to get more lead out of it, it just got in to the lock and doesn’t allow lead. Do you know why this is happening ?
this is really common in my country, in fact i even have one rn, problem is that shakers pencils tend to always give me more lead than i need when i shake it.
Stupid gimmick. How much time are you wasting when you shake the pencil too much, then have to depress the button on top and press the lead down to withdraw the excess lead? If you don't want to waste time changing your grip, but still want to control the feed, just buy a mechanical pencil with a side click button.
Once again, great video! I also have a channel and I'm trying to learn more and improve my content. It would mean so much to me if you could spend a little of your time to give me feedback on my videos. I really love editing videos but as I'm a uni student, I can't do it all the time, it's just a hobby! However, I still want to know your opinion even if you think it sucks! So please check out my videos and tell me what you think.
I saw a shaker pencil from Zebra at a store today. I almost bought it, but then I noticed the tip had a little give (wobble). That was a deal braker for me.
Thats honestly the most useless but yet "make you cool" gadget. I never knew this. I dont think it bothers me when I click the pencil on the top. But hey its something right?
I've got a question, I see the Kuru Toga Roulette in this video. In your old video on the pencil, how did you take it apart? I got one and tried to disassemble it and only put scratches on the pencil because of the glue. I'm asking because I've heard you can put .3 parts into the pencil but I couldn't get it apart.
I never used it before..it's nice to try something new. i hope you get to visit Hawaii and go barefoot too when I get to show you around the places where I go in Hawaii
There are actually two more relatively new mechanisms: bend knock and automatic. The automatic one does not require any push of a button, since pressure from writing will cause the clutch to open up, allowing more lead to come out of the lead sleeve. The bend knock is literally described as bending a certain part of the pencil which activates the clutch. Notes: the clutch is what holds the lead in place. Also, when I refer to lead, I do not mean Pb. Finally, I am only 17. Have a good day.
i hate shaker pencil mostly because my teacher wrote me up because i was "distracting the class" not my fault they want to listen and look at me aka a dumbass
Personally I own a Pilot Dr. Grip CL and a Uni Alpha Gel, and I really don't like the Uni's build quality. After some use the metallic paint on the tip, center, and cap of the Uni can scratch off to reveal the plastic underneath. Also, although the gel grip does feel nice, it attracts a lot of dust and debris, just like in the closeup of the pencil. Both the Uni and the Pilot have plastic bodies, but the Pilot Dr. Grip mas a much more solid feel. If you like to spin your pencils, the Dr. Grip is definitely more balanced and satisfying to spin or twirl. The Pilot Dr. Grip CL also comes in a variety of colors and designs. Still, the Uni Alpha Gel definitely deserves an honorable mention for its locking mechanism.
blauen also, the Dr. grip could be assumed to be more for ergonomics (it's the recommended pencil by the Arthritis Foundation) while the Alpha Gel is for comfort (correct me if I'm wrong).
I enjoy flipping the pencil to press the button. It makes me feel like some sort of writing ninja
There are a few issues I have with shaker pencils, one of which is that they aren't faster at all. Every time someone makes a video on a shaker pencil they exaggerate on how long it takes to click the top of the pencil when, in reality, it takes the same or less time than the shaker pencil.
Another issue is that you can't really control how much lead comes out because of how forceful you must shake the pencil. Not only is this an issue, but I don't want to be seen furiously shaking my pencil when in class or writing something down in public.
I suppose it really is preference but it I'd rather have something like a DelGuard that gives me a little more utility.
"Literally seconds" haha. But yeah it's more of a novelty for me.
Ebrithil1 the Zebra Delgaurd is literally a beast of a pencil. Not only can you draw with very light lines but you can press down harder for a more darker tone :D
I have both and I actually prefer the mono. First, it looks and feels luxurious (it’s heavier because of the weight thing and I prefer pens/pencils that is the same width throughout the body, I also would’ve prefer the black model, I ordered it but they sent me the original mono design instead, oh well) and second, you don’t really need to furiously shake it, just a firm jerk and you’re good to go, looks exactly like if you’re trying to unclog ink with a pen, very normal. Trust me, I had this exact same fear that someone would think I’m weird but honestly, it only bugs me when I’m doing exams or in a particularly quiet classroom since it is a little loud.
I find that I shake twice for more lead and once for less, I prefer shaking twice. That way I can sort of control it.
Another reason is the needle tip, I don’t really like the conical tip on the Delguard, that way I can graph or sketch with ease, also useful in geometry.
But since I’ve only used normal pencils before, with the clicker on the top, I’m used to pressing it on my face/shoulder (sounds weird but hey, works for me) so sometimes I press it to find the clicker is in a different position haha.
Also Idk if something is wrong with my Delguard or it’s just faulty design or I just write weirdly (I wasn’t taught how to write properly as a child so I write with my ring finger rather than my middle) but I find that the guard thing doesn’t extend quickly enough when I put vertical pressure on it.
Actually shaker pencils can also be used as a regular mech pencils cause it can be clicked to advance the lead, but for a too lazy like me i think shaker pencils are convenient, if you don't want the show yourself shaking the pencil in public u can just simply click it, but this thing is just so cool i am just using the tombow one and trust me its sooo satisfying 😂😂
I was today years old when I found out that my tombow monograph actually works this way
Lmao 😂
No way
Hi! I got the Tombrow Mono Graph Pencil, and it has a lock feature so that lead does not come when it shakes in a backpack, car, etc. The problem I have however, is that when I do shake the pencil to get more lead out of it, it just got in to the lock and doesn’t allow lead. Do you know why this is happening ?
@@NoName-je1qh Hello! I believe we have the same pencil as mine also has that lock feature you're talking about. There's a label there that says "on off" right beside the clip. I think you just need to slide down the clip to disable the lock then shake the pencil and check if lead is coming out, just as how you'd slide up to lock it, hence the label. That's what I always do with mine. If you have tried it and it doesn't work then there might be something wrong with your pencil. Sometimes it would also take a while before lead comes out when you shake the pencil, from experience.
This is a great way to annoy my classmates!
That why i bought the zebra z grip one
I absolutely love shaker pencils and here in Michigan no one uses them. They are always fascinated when I use one during a quite test setting.
Right when I just received my Kuru Toga Roulette, just yesterday. David, why you do this to meee?? Now I need to buy more pencils just to have them..
lol. enjoy the kuru toga
Lol you're well off with the Kuru Toga
I bought the delguard the other day anh he released this vid
Damn same, im just odered a uni kuru toga on last wed,then i saw this guy,ur not alone bud😂😂😂
Im lucky lmao £3 for a rotring with 4 leads on ebay.
This is fucking insane! I remember you having 22 subs haha! Just shows how easy it is to achieve something if you really want to! Cheers
Hey Man! Thanks. Yeah it feels like just yesterday I had less than 100 subs. Luck helps too I guess, but appreciate all the support from everyone.
I just checked and it was 12 subs not 22 haha insane! 100k is right around the corner
i don't think a couple of seconds is worth getting these over the other pencils you have shown.
I agree. The Uni Kuru is still my favourite pencil. But I just thought these were kind of cool.
y can't u just use a pencil with a button on the side? It's even faster than this.
Dominic Hidayat I used to have one, but my classmate lost it- I flipped because it was my.teachers gift to me.
It actually takes more effort to shake it than just press it 😅... If conventional pencils were shake types and someone invented a press type... Now that would be worth it lol
Edit...
I had a pretty cheap mechanical pencil when I was a kid... It had the press button right behind or in front of the finger when you hold it .. the concept was good but the pencil was cheap... I don't find such mechanisms anymore...
yea but when ur in the zone when ur drawing, a simple hand shift can just disturb everything and ur hold is like diff
can you please make a "what's in my pencil case" video? thanks!
These are actually amazing, but for some reason, I always loose my best pencils. Either someone steals them, or they fall out. My most famous is the, Graphgrear 1000 mechanical pencil, which was always stolen. And the Tombow was lost, but it was pretty cool.
You realise there are mechanical pencils that have the clicker right where you rest your index finger when writing? Quicker than shaking and the traditional method
Jazz A Not if you are used to either the push top (traditional) or shaker. Plus, the side click is not available in more obscure tip sizes like 0.3 mm. The shaker and push top are the only two available in 0.3 mm.
I found there to be no adjustment period (considering I've used push clickers for over 10 years throughout school~uni) because the clicker is right on the pen pad and your finger naturally rests just next to it.
As for the tip sizes, I've never looked into that but I can confirm mine is 0.5mm, I would agree it would be nice to have a smaller tip size!
Jazz A For me, I use 0.3 mm regularly because I write too small for 0.5 mm to handle. This also means I have a higher prerequisite for quality.
what mechanical pensil is like this? hehe need
@@bballwatcher2224 well... I have a really cheap paper:mate which has the three things, shaker, button on the top and button on the index finger... All for under 3$
Do a review on the Platinum Zeroshin. It has a double clutch mechanism so it uses up the lead entirely.
It's $8.25 USD on JetPens.
i love shaker mechanical pencil since 1995 i stared with Pilot the shaker H1010 it's a beauty design and really usefull thenks for this video i enjoy!!!!
I like shaker pencil cuz I don't like changing my grip while writing, and especially drawing. Otherwise, some of my friends with smaller hands also prefer them as reaching the top for lead advancement is usually a bit more troublesome for them =]
Thanks! That makes sense for people with smaller hands.
You can actually open the uni alpha gel by holding the silver part in one hand and the body section in the other and twisting it open and there is a vey dense spring inside (I know this from playing with my pencil for years during class and I had the uni for over five years and it’s still good as new)
I have the tombow.. once you get used to shaking, it’s very useful although when I switch back to my kuru toga I found myself shaking it as well lol..
The Dave Lee of pencils.
I love these fricken pencils they're the best and no one has them 😏
Big fan of the Uni Kuru Togas !
Definitely my top pick for mechanical pencils. The new Uni Kuru Toga Advance that just came out too so I know what I'll be buying in the near future. lol
Imagine you're out of lead and you flip your Tombow Mono Graph twice in the air and keep going. That's so slick
When I shake the pencil my neighbors in school thinks I'm crazy 😂
pilot had this shaker feature at least 11 years ago and side click button solves this problem, as long as you don't grip on the button while writing
ok wow i have the monograph and i didnt know it did that, i thought it was broken. thats sooo cool
Tombow mono graph is the best mechanic pencil for me and i lve it ;D
Can you review something like the Pentel Orenz Nero, or the Pilot Automac next?
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into them.
this pencil is mostly for people with arthritis and other ailments, it really help and it makes school a lot easier ! i love my shaker pencils
I was lucky and I had enough tokens to get the Uni Ox Gel pencil at an arcade. thank goodness I didn't have to actually pay for it.
"just a flick of the wrist" lol
My pencil is a shaker, didn't realize the shaking had a purpose lmao
I lose my pens ALL the time.
Where is the pencil from... Of course from Japan 😂😂😂
Hey David, can you help me decide which one
i had a shaker pencil when i was at 4th grade
also it had a shaft that can be filled with multiple leades
it was like 2.5$
Do you know Dr.grip?
let me know how this sounds in class while taking an exam. it might also help to ask a nearby friend how you look when the old lead piece runs out and you have to "shake" 30 times for another piece of lead to feed.
Markism07 you can get the lead out normally..
Personally I prefer the uni, because of the grip, and because I’m a student that prefers using pencil (in math it really helps), and prolonged use of that tombow one without a decent grip gives me callouses on my index finger.
I wish there was a combination between this, the UNI kuru toga and the zebra pencil that doesn't break the lead
I'm sorry but how could you not know these exist?!
lol. I'm just a noob in the pencil industry.
David Zhang There are actually two more relatively new mechanisms: bend knock and automatic. The automatic one does not require any push of a button, since pressure from writing will cause the clutch to open up, allowing more lead to come out of the lead sleeve. The bend knock is literally described as bending a certain part of the pencil which activates the clutch. Notes: the clutch is what holds the lead in place. Also, when I refer to lead, I do not mean Pb. Finally, I am only 17. Have a good day.
Please do more!!! ^.^
To get the monograph you could find them at Tokyo lifestyle thats where i got mine :)
Mechanical pencils with a clicker on the side like BIC Side Clic and Pentel Side FX are much faster than this.
And they also look terrible. Idk more of a preference but I do like classy looking pens
is anyone gonna tell him that there is an eraser in the uni alpha gel??
Hey David , can you record the video about your pc setup ?
Will be great if you will :D
Oxygel is a reslly good pencil. Used to have like 3. The gel part is super soft
would you happen to know the type of lead it comes with? seems smoother than the lead i normally use
Theses could probably help with sketching and pencil drawings
Another alternative to the clcicky-top pencils is the ones that have a bend in the middle and can be extended by squeezing against the middle part of the pencil. A good example is the Tombow Olno, but there are others, even classy ones in a metal finish. I'd recommend them as they are quick so use and you don't have to adjust your grip to extend the lead and you also don't need to pick your hand up off the page like you would with a shaker. Also a bit more discrete for use at work or in class.
Hi! I got the Tombrow Mono Graph Pencil, and it has a lock feature so that lead does not come when it shakes in a backpack, car, etc. The problem I have however, is that when I do shake the pencil to get more lead out of it, it just got in to the lock and doesn’t allow lead. Do you know why this is happening ?
What about the pencils with thumb activated led
sometime when i am in rush, i will just click it with my forehead! LOL
I click mine with my chin
BTW, next pencil should be the Orenz!!!!!
I'm not going to get a pencil that saves me "seconds" of time when there's more advanced mechanical pencils out there
this is really common in my country, in fact i even have one rn, problem is that shakers pencils tend to always give me more lead than i need when i shake it.
Great video David! Although I think you actually can see the shaker of the Alpha Gel if you unscrew the bottom casing, the part with the clip on it.
Thanks! I feel like an idiot. hahah I thought I tried that but it does open up some more. Interesting that they use a spring as a weight. Pretty cool.
Haha np, it really is pretty neat.
the tombow graph shaker pencil is cheap and cool!. with the app honey, it is only $3.89
What if you flicked your wrist too hard and lose your grip on the Mech pen? XD
Stupid gimmick.
How much time are you wasting when you shake the pencil too much, then have to depress the button on top and press the lead down to withdraw the excess lead?
If you don't want to waste time changing your grip, but still want to control the feed, just buy a mechanical pencil with a side click button.
Once again, great video! I also have a channel and I'm trying to learn more and improve my content. It would mean so much to me if you could spend a little of your time to give me feedback on my videos. I really love editing videos but as I'm a uni student, I can't do it all the time, it's just a hobby! However, I still want to know your opinion even if you think it sucks! So please check out my videos and tell me what you think.
I saw a shaker pencil from Zebra at a store today. I almost bought it, but then I noticed the tip had a little give (wobble). That was a deal braker for me.
Thank you David. My uni alpha gel shaker was driving me crazy
Thats honestly the most useless but yet "make you cool" gadget. I never knew this. I dont think it bothers me when I click the pencil on the top. But hey its something right?
I look at the action required to advance the lead and think RSI. I'll stick to the less jolting motion of clicking the button.
Which is the cheapest
hi - good the grip mechanism I understand, but how does it only have 1mm from it, so what does it have and I do not understand
if your lead breaks just quickly press the back of the mechanical pencil into your chest, literally solves the problem of not being fast
That moment when you realize that you are looking up pencils in the middle of the summer 😐
bah , makes no difference , you still need to lose the position of the pencil, makes more sense to get a pencil with a side button for that.
I'd sooner click a button, rather than flail my hand around like a chimp.
I really loved my Bic ai
Unuseable for people who fiddle around with there penns.
This kinda stuff excites me. Lol...
I have a shaker pen and i didnt know so i was like y is it making that sound
I've got a question, I see the Kuru Toga Roulette in this video. In your old video on the pencil, how did you take it apart? I got one and tried to disassemble it and only put scratches on the pencil because of the glue. I'm asking because I've heard you can put .3 parts into the pencil but I couldn't get it apart.
Quality content.
just got a kurutoga and coleto cries i can't resist
What if you have parkinson?
I had tons if these , never knew what they did.
rip in peace tons of shaker pencils that were never used to their full extent
tbh just use ur other hand to push the lead down idk
Great review! Are Titus shakers available in your area? Hope you can review if available. I have Uni but just the regular mechanical pencils.
i would be irritated if i sat next to someone constantly 'shaking'
You have to be in some hurry to need this.
I have one shaker pencil from Pilot called "The Shaker" and i really love it but i don´t know if it´s still available.
The shaking seems like a good idea, until the graphite sticks to the plastic tube (due to static electricity) and renders the pen unusable.
I never used it before..it's nice to try something new. i hope you get to visit Hawaii and go barefoot too when I get to show you around the places where I go in Hawaii
There are actually two more relatively new mechanisms: bend knock and automatic. The automatic one does not require any push of a button, since pressure from writing will cause the clutch to open up, allowing more lead to come out of the lead sleeve. The bend knock is literally described as bending a certain part of the pencil which activates the clutch. Notes: the clutch is what holds the lead in place. Also, when I refer to lead, I do not mean Pb. Finally, I am only 17. Have a good day.
Do more mechanical pencil vids plz thyre sooooo 👍
I'm just a little worried if you accidentally hit the paper while shaking it then it has the little dot that's impossible to erase
And also you would break the lead
ohhhhh. I thought they were just for fun
I have one if the Uni pencils with the cool grip but I left it in a classroom and the next day the grip was gone
You need to review *Pilot Mogulair* too. It's amazing.
What pencil is that at 0:31?
You have long lead when you erase something :D you can press with your chest and contunie writing 😂😂
Click with your non writing hand. Problem solved lol.
True! lol
omg what problem are these pencils solving??? sick world
lol
i hate shaker pencil mostly because my teacher wrote me up because i was "distracting the class" not my fault they want to listen and look at me aka a dumbass
Does it get stuck in the lead lock?
who writes nowadays? being a college student I rarely have to write. everything is typed.
lol. I agree. I rarely write but there's something therapeutic about hard writing once in a while.
glad to see im not the only friggin lead pencil addict here
Make more pencil videos
funny thing is that I own one of these and never know this
Personally I own a Pilot Dr. Grip CL and a Uni Alpha Gel, and I really don't like the Uni's build quality. After some use the metallic paint on the tip, center, and cap of the Uni can scratch off to reveal the plastic underneath. Also, although the gel grip does feel nice, it attracts a lot of dust and debris, just like in the closeup of the pencil. Both the Uni and the Pilot have plastic bodies, but the Pilot Dr. Grip mas a much more solid feel. If you like to spin your pencils, the Dr. Grip is definitely more balanced and satisfying to spin or twirl. The Pilot Dr. Grip CL also comes in a variety of colors and designs. Still, the Uni Alpha Gel definitely deserves an honorable mention for its locking mechanism.
Thanks for your thoughts! And that's true about it picking up dust which is a little annoying.
blauen also, the Dr. grip could be assumed to be more for ergonomics (it's the recommended pencil by the Arthritis Foundation) while the Alpha Gel is for comfort (correct me if I'm wrong).