How Much Time Should it Take to Paint a Single Mini?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Are you spending too long painting each mini? In this video I dive into the tradeoff between quality and quantity as it applies to painting warhammer or DnD minis. Let's figure out where we are on this continuum, and if maybe we belong a notch or two in either direction!
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i was just about to go to bed but then Brent decides to upload a video at 3am so I guess I'll be watching this now
gotcha! :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies just finished watching!!! great vid, lots of interesting insights here (using paint remover on just one section of the model??? i'd never have thought to try that) and yes purple is absolutely the best colour!!!!!
No joke, same thing for me, I was shutting stuff down and my phone goes off. Time to sit and enjoy :) sleep can come later.
You are all just so wholesome and lovely. Seeing my painting heroes chatting just fills me up with joy. Thank you!
It was one am for me
There is never too long to paint a mini I could sit perfecting blends until my hair is as long and luscious as Brent's.
Edit: Why Brent is the mini painting Bob Ross
1. A great hairstyle that makes them recognizable
2. Calm informative tutorials that help the viewer relax with their soothing voices
3. Wholesome animal moments whether it is cats or Bob's baby squirrels
4. Good at what they do and can do it quickly
5. Settles for imperfection
6. Just nice people
7. They both give good advice that helps others learn
Yeep you right i take as loooong as i need to.
Your comparison of Brent to Bob Ross is spot on! Especially No. 6.
Hahaha, I appreciate the comparison! No one has ever broken it down like this before ;-)
@@GoobertownHobbies Happy to be the first. :D
Let's make a happy little belt buckle...
I like how you don't edit out small mistakes. It's a bit of a relief to know it can happen to anyone and it's not a big deal because you'll paint over it later on anyway!
Because of this channel I decided to take the leap and decided to get into Warhammer! Thank you Brent for showing all of us the joy of this hobby!
Woooo!!! That's what I like to hear :-)
The color is actually “purple orks” but you can’t see the orks
I looked and I couldn't find a single stupid fantasy word on that whole bottle! incredible right??? :-)
Them Vallejo gitz are pretty kunnin'
You're like the Bob Ross of miniature painting man. And we love your fluffy cats. And all of your stuff really. You're great.
All hail the kujo kilt! Now if only i can marry the skill and the relaxed enjoyment of both channel styles into my own hobby time.
Kujo Kilt!!! :-)
"As for the tiger, they can't all be winners." *Gasp* As a beginner, I aspire to be able to paint that well.
speeding2fast same. I’ve always been garbage at any kind of visual art I have no instincts for it. I just want to get to a point where they look better than the mass produced painted minis.
I could listen to Brent explain anything for hours!!!!
Oh man seeing you struggle with the eyes made me feel so much better, I always assume everyone else can get it in their first go and it's just me that struggles and makes them look cross eyed 😂 This was such an interesting watch and all the different minis looked incredible!
Hehehe, the struggle is real! There are so many cross-eyed minis out there :-) And thanks, yep the set looks pretty cool from a few feet away!
@@GoobertownHobbies Just an idea: mount two brushes on a compass and paint both pupils at the same time, they'll end up parallel.
Nowadays I skip the eyes, but I used to paint white, ink the edges/socket, then use a gel pen for the pupil.
Can't fake a personality like his. Might very well be the most genuine hobby painter on youtube. Great video.
Waking up on a Sunday morning. New Goobertown video is up. Life is good
Dude your voice your persona is so soothing and relaxing. You videos have more therapeutic benefits than you know
Great video as always, Brent! I myself struggle right now with the classic - I start painting and get dissatisfied, and then jump to another mini.
Hahaha, total classic ;-)
Remember to save your characters for when you are better at painting character... like after you have painted more characters.. oh wait.
As always, Brent is one of the most wholesome UA-cam creator. Thank you for this video :)
Brent watching you experiment and play around with blending in this video, and curved highlights in the last one, is genuinely encouraging and helps me learn and grow as a painter
I'm so glad to hear that! Keep painting, my friend :-)
This video is exactly why I just joined your Patreon: all the meta stuff about experimenting, learning, failing a bit and recovering--but always pushing one's own boundaries. Thank you!
As someone who is in a routine of batch painting 5 minis at a time i really appreciated this video. I have gotten very efficient at basecoating and washing to a tabletop standard but haven’t pushed myself to really finish a high level paint job in a long time.
I know what you mean, I need to try that again soon myself. :-)
Same as me really.
I try different methods too. Sometimes I airbrush sometimes I brush paint. Thanks for sharing these ideas along the figure painting. They all look great!
Right on, thanks John! :-)
You are the Bob Ross of mini painting and I always look forward to learning from you and your videos. As usual, I watch your video and am ready to dive head first into my own mini painting. Thank you. Sincerely.
I enjoy all of your videos but this one helps answer a question I’ve been asking myself for weeks.
Thanks!
Sweet! :-)
When you do historicals and you have a pile of 150 figures for your next regiment "Ah quantity it is then.....again".
hahahhaa
Model Color Royal Purple is fantastic as well - picked it up recently and painting with purple became my favourite, too!
oooh, good to know! :-)
A big thought to test out something new during this time. Big thanks! Keep on painting!
Great inspiration. Love the wounded eye when you couldn't get the second eye right. Really inspired.
I started measuring my time for my 40k Harlequin army and it takes me around 3-5 hours per model. I once sat down with my friends for a Discord paint session and while I was busy just getting the base coat right they were finishing full batches. It was a bit disheartening to say the least. I think when it comes down to the question how much time you should invest in your minis you need to distinguish whether you want good looking models or a painted army. Because even though I have one of the most elite, low count army in the game, I'm beginning to get tired of painting the same paint scheme over and over again. I couldn't fathom painting 120 guardsmen to the same standard.
I'm definitely not the type to sacrifice on quality though. After all I take big joy from the feeling of accomplishment of watching my minis on the shelf. So one lesson I take from this is to focus on small skimish type games for my next project or on single models entirely.
Harlequin's definitely have a reputation for taking a while to paint! I bet they're looking cool though, and so few people have harlequin's, so that's awesome, keep goin! :-)
Your videos are so soothing and helpful to watch! It definitely makes painting seem less intimidating 🙂
you can do it!! :-)
Paint Bravely, great message in this video! Also, I need that Yeti in my life.
yes it is and yes you do! :-)
I have been feeling really guilty for the fact that I haven't been getting much done on my pile of shame. I have been picking at one mini for 2 weeks now. Its looking great! But I only work on it 1 maybe two hours every other day or so. I have the time, just not the focus or motivation. Your comments in the first of the video reminded me I am not the only one that spends as much time as I do. I don't have to feel guilty I am not pumping out quantity. I work like I work and that is good enough.
So, thank you. For your words, your videos and your efforts.
The Fire Mage and the Axe Guy look especially great. This video has really reminded me that lots of minis don't need tons and tons of painting to turn out looking good. It's inspired me to get back to working to completion for a bit.
Thanks! Yeah sometimes a 2-hour paintjob can turn out pretty decent eh? Go paint something and have fun with it :-)
I spent so much time on a mini until I feel good with it. First than I laid back and think about the next model.
Once again a nice video from you. Thank you for that
I have learned alot from this channel, I got back into painting after a 30 year break. My kids encouraged me to return and play age of sigmar with them. Painting can be very therapeutic, and as I'm a professional designer and digital illustrator my standard isn't too shabby. But the challenge is getting up to date with the techniques and media once more.
Glad you're back! Multi-generational family AOS games??? sounds fun :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies a bit confused with some rules but getting there - cheers
Nice video. I really like the Yeti, it looks amazing. The Djinn is very nice too. I think you should spend some more time on these models. They look good but deserve more time because I think they will all look great (even the tiger)
For me 10 hours is a healthy time frame / limit on a normal 28mm human sized figure. It's enough time to pick something new to try or work on improving a skill but still gett the figure done. You have to keep the process joyful and not get burned out. Thanks for keeping youtube joyful, love your vids!
I got to admit that I am seeing how these are painting and thinking seriously about how I would go about painting some of my mini figures. I struggle with patience at times but I also can panic and seriously worry about making a bad job too. This has been a great video
Great minis. Great video. Great channel. Thank you for all the good videos you make! Greetings from Germany 🖖🏼
I dont even know how I found your channel Brent, but damn.. its a love at a first sight. hahaha... Im a freelancer and still struggle for life, obviously dont have that much money but you makes me really love minis more.
I've been interested in boardgame, tabletop and such for some years now. in fact, I actually have a little background about it in my childhood.
your really motivate me to get and paint my first minis. Im saving for it and hope can start early next year.
keep on Brent, we love you!
Thank you so much for this video I was starting to procrastinate but a goobertown video always makes me want to paint
Wooo, you got this! :-)
Absolutely LOVE your videos. Very educational, and a great reminder that we are doing this for fun. Also, I really enjoy your laid back presentation style; very "Bob Ross". Please keep up the great work.
Haha, on Friday I also fell into love with Vallejo Purple when I painted up a bunch of cultists for D&D! :-)
It's sooooo goood!!! :-)
I've been painting models in a 3-4 hour time window, just to finish up some models for games. It's so liberating to allow yourself to call something done when it's tabletop standard with a little flair, and move onto the next model the next day.
nice! yeah 3-4 hours for a human sized mini is right about where I fall too :-)
Some night the artistic juices flow and then other nights it s back to boring stuff, like washes - it's all down to mood swings I find Brent and I do Chaos and Space Wolves/Ravens and Regal Ravens (My own creation). Cheers for the insight into the world of imagination.
This video paired well with one of Miniac's latest videos about changing his painting process so he could enjoy painting more and have more fun. At the end of the day for the majority of the people in the hobby that's probably the most important thing. Just also important to realize that challenging yourself, while sometimes scary, can be really fun too!
Also while I'm sure there's more to be done on all the models you painted, I thought all the faces on the human characters looked good, and really elevates the model.
Hey thanks! Scott and I have done this a few times now where we've accidentally made similar videos in our own way, it's always fun when that happens.
I really like how your videos are often more "musing about hobbying while some hobbying goes on in the background". Very relaxing and interesting, definitely provokes my thoughts.
I also like how you bring up how you are willing to just "go for it" without planning too much, and are willing to simply redo things or change colors midway through. I've previously had a more perfectionist mindset when painting (I must get it right the first time!), but I've been hearing your voice in my head when I realize I don't like something, and I've gone through with changing it. I'm in the middle of my biggest project ever (the older Leman Russ model) and have had to make many do-overs. Magnetizing it is difficult, and at one point I had put two layers of basecoat down only to realize I didn't like the color -- so without stopping to plan, I made a decision to mix some paints and achieve the perfect color. Two more basecoats and while it looks very different than my original plan, I love it!
Thanks for your efforts and passion. :)
(And whenever something looks pretty good, but not perfect, I hear in my mind in your voice, "But that's ok. There's a lot of other minis to paint, and this one looks good enough to play with.")
This was a great perspective video. I like covering these topics so early in the painting part of the hobby for me.
I'm new to painting minis and Brent's videos are amazing and are what finally got me to try. After watching this video I feel it's ok to work at my own speed. Whatever that turns out to be. Thanks Brent!
First of all, great vid and thumbs up for tackling that topic! It's not an easy topic in a world of Instagram were you can easily see a few compition winning models each day!
As you said, it totally depends on the goal with the mini. At least that's my point of view on the matter over quantitiy vs. quality.
Usually I take way more time on my 40k minis as I know, that at some time, each one could be seen as a single model. Same, if not even more so, is true for my character models.
On the other hand, my Kings of War army, which is mulitbased, stops right at the wash stage for the majority of the models. If I feel like it, I pick out a few more details on the guys in the front row, but as there are quite a lot of minis cramped on a comparatively small base, the overall look and feel is determined by all minis as a whole and not by the single pouch on guy 13 in the 3rd row :)
Also it's a lot more satisfing to play a rank'n'flank game with fully painted, crowded bases :D
rank 'n flank put so many hours of painting in such a small area :-)
Great video. Myself, like many I believe, started with $150 GW boxed games of 50 miniatures. This was so overwhelming because I also started by trying to match the box art. This left me playing the game for 1-2 years with mostly grey plastic or even worse, never playing the game for 2 years while I fell in and out of the struggle of painting everything in the box before I ever played the game. (eventually finding out that I had put 100's of hours into painting a game that I didnt even know if I liked!)
Very recently with my 4th boxed game I am starting to really see the benefit of having some paint on a model vs none or, a quick and dirty paint job vs no paint job or no game. It's taken about 4 years, but it's starting to click.
Whoa! that's pretty insightful actually, lots of folks DO start with giant boxes and are forced to look at that pretty art... That might be the root of a lot of our hobby psychosis! Thanks for watchin, and glad to hear that you're starting to crank out more painted models, keep it up! :-)
Practice practice practice. Thanks for the video Brent. That reminds me I need to get my garage cleaned up so I can start airbrushing again
Thumbs up for Vallejo purple! I am also hyped with it. Good for clothes, but also for mixing with skin tones and browns and have fast interesting shadows
Wow Brent, if you hadn't told me these were 3d printed I never would have known. It's amazing how far 3d printing has come. Good to know that you can strip them too, so cool.
Great video about experimenting with the process and giving oneself permission to make new choices and mistakes; and the push to keep learning. Thanks!
Great tips! great video. And really like the look of a lot of those minis. as a set they really look great too. There's a happy shelf somewhere in your house.
Thanks! Yup, that shelf is powering up quite nicely :-)
Totally awesome, love your philosophy. I'm working my way through a bunch of minis so I can do different encounters in frostgrave. Quantity is at the forefront so I have a whole bunch. But I spend much more time on the warband itself.
Nice! Frostgrave seems like such an awesome setting to paint minis for, have fun with it :-)
I’ve had similar thoughts when painting, so I’m glad to have come across this video. Exploring different styles usually come to me when I feel I don’t have anything to lose, including time or paint resources. May the spirit of Sam Lenz be with all our blending attempts!
And may his spirit be with you too, friend :-)
As a complete noob to the world of minis, your experiments give such great inspiration- so glad to find your channel! I have over 100 Gloomhaven pieces to paint and your videos turn the daunting into a playground 😊
My high school german teacher once said: There is no quality without quantity. I guess he was kind of right, with a lot of interpretation.. :D
Good stuff - great to see them all painted up. I signed up because of your other video introduction to Titan Forge and the files are downloading now. Only hiccup is I still have settled on which 3D Printer to buy - just going to have to bite the bullet and buy one. Anyway - enjoyed the videos, keep them coming!
Nice! I've been testing out a few printers, and this generation of resin printers has a ton of similarities. Good luck and have fun :-)
This video coming out while I was procrastinating taking a shower just made my day, thanks goobertown hobbies first you get me into the hobby now you help me procrastinate!!!
Happy to help! :-)
Brent - Another fabulous video! I really admire your attention to detail and very relaxed approach. You inspire me to be better, and I've learned a lot from watching you. My oldest son is interested in beginning the hobby, and your channel was the first one I recommended. Your voice is awesome! You should tell one of those "Calm" app sleep stories. ; )
Wow you have really improved your painting skills from your first video until now. Inspiring 👏👏
That Gandalf w/ an axe, spot on! He looks like he could be the walk on extra for just about any RPG video game.
When your Master tells you to stop playing with swords or "you'll poke your eye out"... dammit you listen!
;-)
Getting the basics down neat and tidy Is still really effective!
Just waiting for my printer to arrive then these guys will be slotting into as Frostgrave and AOS battlesmages!
its such a crazy fantastic set which was a hole that needed filling!
Yeah I was thinking about frostgrave the whole time, hopefully I'll get a chance to actually play someday! :-)
Goobertown Hobbies Same here! Keep smashing it!
This makes me excited to paint my 1995 egrimm van horstmann and 5th edition chaos warriors. Love your tutorials by the way.
YAY!!! Brent has a new vid.
I love this channel! It’s down to earth, informative, inspiring and relaxing 😌
Great video those minis look fantastic.
Love your videos Brent, you do so much that just resonates with me!
:-)
Great video as always Brent, I do tend to try and paint as quick as possible. Thinking about it, I would benefit from slowing down to focus on techniques and trying to improve.
I enjoy this channel because you can actually see your painting improve more and more as if we are on the journey with you.
Hahaha, thanks! Yeah I hope my painting keeps getting better, I think our channels are a fun little record :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies indeed they are
This is just such an amazing journey you took us on. Inspiring as always.
Hey, i've watched a lot of vids from your channel, and i finally started my first wet palette mini xD Thanks for your tutorials, they're very helpful for me.
nice! :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies I make a Video about it. I know i'm not the biggest player on YT (definitely not) But can i show you the result when i'm finished?
These look excellent. I love the vibrant and varied colours of each mini. What an amazing result, and in such a short time too!
Hey thanks! :-)
Just got this recommended. Already subscribed.
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Hey Brent, I just wanted to stop by and say your videos are awesome! I'm super grateful for the meditative educational nature of each of your videos and it helped me paint several minis. You also introduced me to Titan Forge so now I and my 3d printer are very, incredibly happy. Keep up the content man!
Inspiring as always Brent! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I’m fairly new to the hobby and your channel has helped me so much, thank you 🙏
I used to be overly obsessed with trying to get stuff done and my old armies unanimously wound up hideous and I didn't like it. then I got so burnt out on the cycle of obsessing and hating the finished product that I stopped painting and became a lowly "Tin boy", which I also really didn't like. Now, I relegate myself to painting as best I can so I can be proud of the finished models and just keep a minimum of 1-2 hrs of painting a day and for me I found that wasn't fast, but satisfying (and also exhausting when you choose to have Space Orks and Imperial Guard as your two main armies. Yikes, haha)
But I bet when you do get a game in you feel 100x better about your armies
Thank you for your grounded and humble interpretations! The mini painting game can be very intimidating for beginners (like me), but your encouraging style helps my perfectionist brain push on in my own works!
Hey Brent! I am making my way through your videos as I’ve just found your channel. It is so relaxing to watch you paint and hobby. Painting is incredibly intimidating to me, so it’s very cool to find someone so positive and relaxed while they paint!
I also really appreciate the cool/good vibes you exude in every video!
I loved that shout-out to Sam!
I took a class with Sam last year, and the biggest take-away was the importance of wet blending. I need to do my homework! :-)
For me, I realized was doing little to no painting because I was so hard on myself to get it "perfect". It would take me a week or two for one unit, which would burn me on painting for awhile.
However, once I started doing simpler paint jobs and simple bases, I realized I was happy making sure there wasn't bleed over and some basic highlights.
The main help for this was my own frustrations, but also coming across your chill approach and Uncle Atom's videos on the similar subject. Now I'm painting up my game pieces to the point they have some character, but I'm still able to punch through a unit or a warband/posse for smaller wargames like Pulp Alley, Dracula's America, etc.
OH DUDE! Vallejo Purple is a staple of mine too. Such a good paint.
This video popped up at just the right time. Next week I start a new project. Painting a Drunagor all-in set, with a goal of 15 minutes per mini average, or all 150ish in under 40 hours.
The plan is 3-tone zenithal (black/bone or grey/white) > assembly line, mass Speedpaints basecoats > drybrush highlights > mass quick spray varnish (maybe) > wash and/or extra touchups > final mass varnish > done
EDIT:90 minutes to 2 hours to get a base coat you were happy with... eeesh. Normally if a mini takes me more than 90 minutes to fully complete I'm angry about how much time I'm wasting on it.
I am always so happy to listen to your insights on the hobby. You always seem to remind us all that its okay to not always paint display level minis and remind ourselves to just enjoy the hobby and not overstress it. Ithink showing that tiger will actually go a longer way mentally to some than one might think when it comes to getting minis done rather than trying so hard to compete. If any of that made sense xD Keep up the good work Brent!
I understand you, Brent :-)
You're so inspiring. I have hard with my first project. I am a perfectionist so if result is not as good as I imagined I am frustrated. Your advices looses my own chains a bit. I'm going to hoop into saddle back in! Thanks!
I'm slow but I'm pretty new so it's all learning for me right now. Great video and good luck with the bubbles and meniscus painting too :)
An interesting point, always nice to listen to your thoughts on the hobby! Congrats on the set that you helped design!
(These look great Brent, I love the *pop*!)
I very deliberately decided to paint my army in sub assembly because of the sheer amount of units I want paint. It's to save time and not swap paints every two minutes.
It's fairly obvious that if you're painting grunts, you want to cut back on the details, if nothing else for your own sanity and to avoid burnout. Not so much for a perfectionist and this is where you need to let go and not paint that bolter or rifle in sixteen colors and blended NMM effects. Just block in the colors and wash it.
You should also respect what it is you buy. There's been a lot of 'shame collection' videos recently and there are people who have too much money to spend and don't appreciate what they've hidden away. For me something like a character model or an expensive single model, like a Primaris Chaplain, is something precious and special (even if they're monopose and all look the same).
You should treat something like that with a modicum of respect and give it the paint job it deserves.
edit; My favourite model is the pipe smoking alchemist, he has so much character to him!
The dark elf you painted is missing warmth in the armor and it'll probably take a little bit of blending rather than a wash.
Agreed! For a nice/ expensive model I'll always want to give those the time they deserve. Some of these mage sculpts are awesome and deserve a 'real' paintjob, but since they're cheap 3d prints I don't feel so bad about cranking out a quick copy first :-)
What a thought-provoking video. Thank you!!!
I thought I was a chill person then I watched goobertown Brent is legit
Yes. More Goobertown!
My fastest was like 30 mins on a small lotr model and like 8 hours on my first chaos rider om juggernaut. All down to feel and experience but helps not too get to precious about it.
Got to add oh my god those wings, simply amazing.
Just poicked up the set to print, looking forward to playing with these, thanks for the code btw.
Good question. Something about my own hobbying that has been on my mind recently.
Man, your videos are so entertaining ! Keep the great job going on :)
I love finding shortcuts. Painting hordes of skeletons the same way I paint space marines is painful, but at first I didn't realize that the slog wasn't a result of the models, but rather my approach. So now, instead of doing the whole prime, basecoat, layer, wash, highlight routine, I just spray them with off white, put a heavy wash on them or use Contrast paint and drybush them. Good looking skeletons, without the sanity shredding boredom!
Yay, another video. Love it.
Could you try making a video about kitbashing?
someday, someday! :-)
Absolutely in love with the colour choice on the eygptian style mage with the scimitar, it actually killed my choice paralysis with a similar mini at my desk. Great Video!