Especially the last part. And when it fails and all the money goes to waste. No one cares, it's quietly moved to the background and almost all people just forget about it. Just like with the unlawful acts of the government during covid.
And stash their earnings in offshore tax havens, which is why they truly pushed for Brexit New EU legislation would have prevented the hoity toity from robbing the UK population
Supermarkets in NL already stopped with discounts on meat "better for the environment" some cities also banned meat advertising. Most under pressure from activist groups. They also want to ban commercials for fuel burning cars. It will all fall apart in the next 5 years or it will be forced on us really hard by the communists. But with the right now in power I hope it will be the first.
Our local co op has been putting in a bunch of chargers since early spring . Still not finished and now ignored by non virtue signaller drivers who just use them for parking. 😂😂😂😂😂
That's because most people charge at home. I've owned an EV since 2019 and only about 10% of my plugging in is on public chargers. I am saving about €2,000 a year on not having to buy petrol or diesel.
On the Electrocution of the British Isles - have you seen the horror show planned for Norfolk? FOUR THOUSAND acres of FARM Land for Solar Panels? keep giving 'em hell, Geoff, while you can!
That’s only one of them. They’ve just foisted plans - called East Pye Solar - for another 2,750 acres of prime farmland across 12 sites all across South Norfolk. This is half a mile from my house. It’s already knocked 20% off the value of homes next to proposed fields. It’s an industrial abomination across huge swathes of a rural area we desperately need to keep for food production. And the real kicker? It won’t produce a single volt at night when we in the cold dark winters will need it most. It’s utterly insane.
Maybe gridserve is copying broadband suppliers, where the advertised claimed speeds only need to be available for 10% of the customers 10% of the time...
Chris I love that comparison, I've always thought broadband speeds was the biggest con, your surely not going to get advertised recharging rates when you cant get the "Pump Price" at some chargers, so much deception and the fools seem OK with it, what have we become.
Never get the petrol pump speeds when the person on the other side of the pump starts filling up their car too. Wait there pressing the nozzle for ages. 😂
I was visiting and charging gridserve for 3 years. In those 3 years gridserve changed drastically. 500% cost to kwh/p and also slowing people down and blaming their cars. After all this horrible experience I made in depth review on gridserve google reviews with same name. Feel free to read it and if you want include it in your video. We were forced/ brainwashed into ev. so got it for 3 years and 1 year into regrets started kicking. 2 years into it and was counting down days till when i can give this car back. Back to the diesel and never again
@@Sammy-lw1ns I was told not a big issue if I cant charge at home, but it's simple to put in charger. 1 month after purchase I was told it will cost over £1500 to put in charger at my home...And cable to charge my EV from socket was £300 and used in total 7 times over 3 years
I mistakenly bought an EV. Public charging was hopeless and the price extortionate. I could not charge for less than 79p kwh and up to 85p kwh. I believe Tesla can do it for half that. Anyway, I sold it after 6 months stress and strain and luckily only lost £3,200. I say only because had I kept it another 6 months I would have over doubled that loss. Now back in a nice Seat Leon fr doing 50+ mpg
The purpose built Copper faced Gridserve service station built at Norwich ( see MacMasters review) is now becoming a white elephant. It used to have an M&S, Costa, WHSmith and Post office. Only the Costa remains, and rumours have it that this will close soon as well. A mixture of high rent and low footfall have forced these shops to close. So we have an electric service station , with no services !!! It tells you a lot about the state of Gridserve and the uptake of EV.
I’ve been there - for the loo, not for EV charging. The service at Costa was appalling, noise from the M&S fridges was so loud phone calls were tricky, and altogether it felt like a white elephant even when fully open. Must be grim now.
Was that not just a case of him handing back some of the subsidies he has had over the past few years. wrapped up as a donation so he can curry even more favours from the idiots in government!
The muppet owners LinkedIn says "Toddington has great vision, how to make ideas working in real life. Todd's innovative ideology drives all team to the best results, even with projects , others don't believe in." IDEOLOGY. Aka a commie. Hope his business goes bankrupt.
From The Telegraph, Andrew English in his story 3 days ago about his 3-month EV trial: "It’s actually quite difficult to find out how profitable the provision of volts to electric cars is. At Companies House you’ll find 22 companies with Gridserve in the title, all with headquarters in the same building in Iver, Bucks. The articles of association are sufficiently vague to make nailing down the actual profit from charging operations almost impossible."
@@johnmoncrieff3034unfortunately this! I have an EV, don't care what anyone else drives but this is exactly my basis. Tesla just get in with it, others can't compete but they don't care, take the subsidies, try to "build their user base" (app signups) in the hour that there's a business route for takeover i.e. lots of users. It's a total scam.
The electricity market is the new gold rush, attracting the greedy & unscrupulous! Electricity prices will have doubled within 10 years! We're being taken for mugs!
What a surprise this is endemic throughout the UK. Your mobile phone is a prime example as we adopt US type of business & try to become the next us state with out representation like we did with EU.
Not to say that electric is great or the only way, but can you explain how does petrol or diesel make one "free"? The process of getting petrol and diesel is anything but "independent from 3rd parties". Unlike solar (again I'm not an EV evangelist just asking a very simple question).
@@hughjanus7354 Independently free, all energy comes from somewhere. What solar? If you make your own solar panels and wire them up yourself then, indeed, no third party is involved. Unless you build your own power supply then there is always, at least, a third party involved. Except for standing in the sunshine of course, ahhh Botswana.
@@jamescollins3647 I get your point, but solar panels are an one off (they do age yes) expense, so in theory they have a potential to give you the longer term "freedom". Unlike the exotic fluids which need to be extracted, come by boat or pipe, need to be refined and then transported to the final destination, where you need electricity to put them into your car (and electricity at all the previous stages too). There's as much "freedom" in that as there's freedom in the supply chain when everything is based offshore and something goes wrong.
Haha!...you petrol headed boys make me laugh. Real freedom is being able to fuel up at home from your own resources as I have done for over 5 years now. If you really want to 'stick it to the man' then get yourself and EV..When I drive past a filling station having charged overnight at home for pennies....I feel so sad for the fossil fuel slaves paying homage to the oil billionaires, having to handle a dirty smelly pump then go hand over your hard earned cash to the likes of Putin and the Sheiks. 😂😂
Geoff, Is it possible to compile a list of UK charging points and what the value of the supplied grid connection is? Maybe a spreadsheet? It may give some sort of insight? Also it seems not a day goes by now when we don't hear about companies where the 'bull...ers and blaggers' are in high positions. This even seems to extend to our government! Keep up with the great and varied content.
Here in Kidderminster , the busiest carpark (you can never get a parking space) has been cut up into a huge grid for EV charging pehaps 15 charge points havnt counted) but nobody has ever used the things and it has taken up valuable carparking space for shoppers in the town centre .
What happens if you park on them without an EV? Surely there can’t be any specific laws…yet. My hubby parks on them all the time in an old beat up Corsa. As if the police would care and is there anything parking attendants can do?
@@Starlight22215 The car park owner zealots have probably written something into the T&Cs , like must be within the white lines etc., so will issue a Parking Charge Notice.
I've an Electrical Engineer friend who tells me that the existing power grid will need to be fully replaced to support the future demand for home charging, the present cableling will totally fail !
@@andygardner9088 Insurers are lower than single cell pond scum, they'll tell anyone anything. An impenetrable cartel. All modern cars are more expensive, sensors and safety systems in modern cars very quickly make them write offs. A small bump in the front and the entire bouncy castle inside inflates. Multiple airbags behind trim, all of which takes time to replace, weeks of hire car rental while waiting for parts. £20k upwards... Not EV specific at all.
@@djtaylorutubewhilst you are correct about what’s happening with insurance write offs, albeit only scratching the surface (think hire car cost inflation, garage repair cost inflation, only being allowed to use brand new parts with wait time etc) EVs certainly have affected the market. They are written off in all cases, damage nowhere near the battery yet deemed too high risk, more expensive to repair (both in normal parts as they require technicians certified to work on them, and obviously battery replacement costs). They don’t sell as fast or for as much money as their counterparts do, also add into that the companies/auctions add charges on for electric shock hazard and fire hazard and you have even bigger problems. Whilst they aren’t the sole reason our premiums have risen, they are certainly playing their part. If they keep increasing numbers on the road then we will have even bigger problems. Two of my businesses repair and rebuild them (all vehicles) and do insurance work. The whole thing is one big rip off for the consumer but the insurance companies never lose out.
How good will all these pylons be ? No doubt they will be made of crap cheap steel and probably fall over in a few years , not to mention we don’t make steel anymore, so where will the money go ?
Shut down all UK steel production then buy thousands of new pylons from China. Where steel is made on coal power and shipped over by diesel ships, genius!
Given that in winter the UK barely has enough electricity to go around as it is, I do have to wonder how our infrastructure is supposed to support all this new charging capacity....? On reflection it is probably a good thing that EV uptake is slower than expected despite the relentless push from above.
You could sort that winter electricity demand out by making electricity more expensive for a large group of people, therefore lowering demand.🤔 I know, pensioners!😮
I have a few properties and the money being thrown at us by EV charging companies is amazing. All funded by generously funded angel investors. The biggest problem is that the grid can't support this, even if the charge units were economically viable.
Loads of companies are in this to make a quick fortune through the Greenwashing grants etc, only now are we starting to see the cracks appear with the unobtainable ideals. Great video, best wishes.
Gridserve’s hub at gatwick is at south terminal just in front of the long stay parking, and I kid you not I was in disbelief at how bright this place was at night, like pilots probably use this place now for VFR approaches. Surely if we are to do this whole environment thing we don’t pump most of the voltage into the signage?? I swear I wasnt going mad, keep up the good work geoff.
Interesting stuff! I'm in the data centre power and cooling world and can visualise what infrastructure just one 350kW charger will need to get it run at full-bore. 3 phase 630A supplies are not exactly popping out the walls. Mental.
The main problem for the CPO's is Tesla, with their superior network - in terms of capacity, reliability & importantly dynamic pricing. In the past year I've only ever charged at home (10k miles), or on a tesla (open to all) whilst away around the country (4k miles). The CPO's need to bring down their prices to what they were 2 years ago and usage will go up
They don't care, there not in the business of serving electricity. The business that they're in is taking investor cash, government subsidies and customer signups. Then, at some point in the future, hoping to be bought out.
Of course they were ideologues, they were making a fortune off the back of the grift. Remember those investors are the same people that own all the "fossil" fuel companies. Those investments are made specifically to snuffle up any government subsidy (ie taxpayer's money) going. These grifts have been going for 25 years. The first one I came across was the home insulation grift, where a dodgy double glazing company suddenly grew into a huge national company delivering insulation solutions across the country. Funnily enough said company is now fully involved in the solar/heat pump/ charging points grift.
Thanks for the update. I'll instruct my fund managers to sell everyone's investments in Gridserve. We've been seeking info like this. If anyone else has info like this, please sent to Geoff. Nice one Geoff. Thank you.
How will Charging companies Honestly advertise charging rates when some cant tell you the actual price per Kwh until a few days later. I see this as massive deception but people go with it, the same goes for the 25 quid deposit when you start to charge at some places, we are getting pushed around by all people at the top, Its got to stop, Please people Use Cash not credit cards, its another form of control.
Grid serve at Gatwick is a pain in the ass I was in a taxi going to catch a plane to go on holiday, but the entrance to the departure drop off was block because of cars queuing to get in to grid serve
There is a job related site that has former employees of Gridserve venting their spleen. Very interesting, not a company I have had any involvement with, nor which I wish to.
The whole point of not charging over 80% is that it is simply quicker on a long journey as charge rate reduces around this level, so there's no point hanging around waiting for the last slow 20% when you could be moving to the next charge and getting a faster charge rate once the state of charge has reduced. Many large charging hubs (e.g. Gridserve Braintree) are using batteries to provide higher charge rates than the grid can support, and also selling the use of these batteries to the grid for balancing when required.
So the range is reduced by 20%, which means you then have to drive to another station to charge up again. Meanwhile my diesel with a 100% fuel load, which took a few minutes to fill, drives on for 700 miles non stop if I choose to. Great advert for EVs.....not! 🤣
Im a smart meter engineer. We meant to be trained up on EV chargers installations , once we fit smart meters in every house in 🇬🇧. But company said there is no uptake anymore for ev chargers big enough to move into this sector. Those who already installing them might have some work for a year or 2 but that will dry up shortly
The EV chargers work like my high-speed phone charger, which is 65W output, and works the same way. I get full high-speed charging output if I charge one device, but if three devices are connected, then I lose the high-speed charging.
The advice of only charging to 80% is just the average point of charge where the speed drops off. So you could start at 150kw then up to 60% drop to 50kw then after 80% it can slow down further. This is down to the individual cars charge curve. Some can go full speed up to 90%, but its just easier to give a rough level. Unfortunately you get some people that have no home charger and will just sit on a rapid charger (bonkers price) to fill up to 100%. Instead of using a destination charger (slow ones that cost less).
It's simple. Go and buy a new car? I've done it at numerous dealers. Evs were available within days. Petrol was 6 to 8 months waiting time. Why so they hope you are desperate to get a new car and won't be prepared to wait. As soon as I saw this at several garages I knew what was going on with evs and the government fines ready to kick in.
For years and years all we have heard about is “investing in greener future” but we haven’t seen any returns yet. Our bills just keep going up as new investments are constantly needed. It’s all a scam and needs independent investigations. By paying taxes we’re just throwing money away and they come back asking for more.
Have you seen the new BMW adverts full of people saying how they love EVs and all the preconceptions about them are myths? Seems like desperation at this point
You and Lee, plus others are so spot on about EVs and charging. Getting threats, for me, confirms your views and opinions are right. 😊 Great work guys.
Dunno if you've heard but in Oslo they had to put biodiesel heaters on many of their electric buses now after last winters fiasco, article broke about 2 weeks ago but fun read.
I thought that naming children after service stations was really catching on in the UK...then realised that there is no service station called Muhammad.
Think if you went into a petrol station to fill up and as more people came in to fill their cars the pump speed went slower and slower to match increased pumping demand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
People have posted on here from manydifferent places and countries 💯💯👍👍👍👍. THIS is WHY they want control of the internet !! KNOWLEDGE !!!! Thank you to ALL who've posted , information is king . Geoff , KEEP IT UP !!😁
didnt find shrooms yet in sussex...a good plan is to have red bull or coffee on hand if you dont come up and just feel sluggish/nauseous(this can happen if you are run down/sick).a little stimulant bump can switch it up to a normal pleasant trip
If we (as a nation) were really serious about electric automotive power then there would be engineering on a par with the building of the railways, led by the same mixture of gifted engineers and hard nosed business folk of the type that did build the railways. The government would still be providing grants but because they’d be doing it in the genuine expectation of a return on investment, they’d be providing *much* more than they are. That all of this is *not* happening suggests that a genuine shift to electric power (for everyone) is not the agenda here. I wonder what is.
:Our local Sainsbury has had a large number of EV chargers installed covering around 20 original parking spaces. So far, after 3 weeks open I have not seen a vehicle using them.
I wouldn't trust the grid to supply me with electricity. Especially in the future, where the demand will be 5x, 10x just for the cars alone. It'd have to be from home, and I'm lucky enough I can actually do that, and even have some reasonably efficient solar power. And if course, if my life depended on it, but we're not quite there yet.
Dale, is a zealot of the highest order, who gets extremely excited when on social media & media's such as GB News, or Talk TV, to the point of screaming at his opposite number when clubbing him senseless with facts and figures!
This depends entirely on Ms. Reeves et all. They decide who buys what by moving tax about to deliver the results their masters want. Recent petrol price reduction at the pump will be seen as an opportunity to increase fuel duty.
The UK needs a diverse supply of electric power including wind and coal. Closing Briitiain's last surviving coal fired power station in Nottingham recently is probably a mistake because we might want to burn coal if other sources of energy become unavailable. Also the infrastructure of old coal fired power stations could be used to convert them to waste to energy power stations. Alternatively use them as sites for small modular nuclear reactors with electric grid connections and turbines already installed on site
@@Chris-ri7hbso can we have degruntled or ungruntled, having your humour removed, with redegruntle, having your humour restored, gurntling the act of humor restoration, gruntlisation the process. Ie the disgruntled lad was regruntled following a good gruntlisation by his friends😊😊.
Great video. Regarding the Macmaster. His Taycan is 800V so as most chargers are 400V it will halve the charging rate as the manufacturers have to put a doubler in the in car charger to allow an 800V car to charge at a 400V charger including Tesla chargers. Until all chargers can charge at 800V this will be the case. Ionity is one of a few that can charge at 800V. That is why Porsche support them.
I'm suprised there hasnt been any complaints or disgruntles customers paying the high price expecting a rapid charge whne they are only getting 1/5 the output. I think prices should dynamically adjust to when its busy and not getting the advertised speed.
Too expensive to use Gridserve. I just charge conveniently at home at 7p for 5 miles. Why would I pay 79p for 5 miles. Not viable and not required failing business model.
I find it very funny that there was a new head of operations back in April which is about the same time I started having issues charging my Mazda MX-30 on gridserve chargers! I've not been able to use gridserve since and they have said to me that I need to contact Mazda to update my software, but Mazda seem to have no idea about this issue and told me my car is already up to date cause I regularly update it in the settings when there is one available. The thing is, Gridserve hold the monopoly over service stations and motorways, so long journeys are just out of the question for me now. I have been trying to find out my rights as a consumer as I still have finance on the car and so feel like it is just no longer fit for purpose...
Stopping at Gloucester South Services the other week on a Monday afternoon at about 1pm I noticed they have 8 Tesla chargers and 6 other dual chargers. Most of the chargers were in use and one driver had an issue charging while another took quite some time to get the charger to disconnect (One Audi and another a Cupra). The car park had approximately 180 ice cars in it so if they were EV's how could they all get a 80% charge ? Average charging from 20 to 80% takes 40 minutes plus parking and connection so 50 to 60 minutes. So it would take between 8 to 10 hours to charge all the cars in the car park that were there at at 1pm. If more cars arrived then it might be over 12 hours as I noticed at least 20 cars arrive over a 30 minute coffee break.
Even more concerning, is that the higher the advertised charging rate, the higher the rate per kWh you’re charged, as far as I know you’re not charged according to what you actually get. A bit like broadband speeds.
If you want a laugh, go to BBC Sounds and listen to the programme that was on Radio 4 starting at 12 noon today (Thu 26 Sept 2024). Talk about pie in the sky unicorns. One day, maybe, but not in the timescales they were projecting. Not to mention everybody's cars being used as batteries to support the national grid - conveniently ignoring that in this country a HUGE proportion of the population don't have their own driveway.
It's a complete shambles. The only discussion should be, is it by design or not. Something covered before. Destroying every aspect of personal transport..?
Of course it's by design ,this country is run by total idiots,they fill their pockets ,turn round and say it's not our fault.,always blame someone, something else.
This is why plugin hybrids should have been subsidised first by the government instead of the EV push. Many, charging at home doing local journeys would simply use electric and on longer journeys, if a charge point wasn't available they could switch to ICE to complete their journey. This would then gradually increase demand and give time for the infrastructure to be upgraded.
i have just googled and found out from the day of the first ice fuel filling station it took 30 years to get ice fuel filling stations across the uk. Ice filling stations do not have to rely on massive power cables instead just buried storage tanks
True but once the backs are laid, nothing to do. On the other hand, petrol stations require constant resupply. Both have different requirements with benefits and disadvantages.
The object of government is to spend your money,and borrow in your name,then move into the private sector.
Aka their uni pals
Especially the last part. And when it fails and all the money goes to waste. No one cares, it's quietly moved to the background and almost all people just forget about it. Just like with the unlawful acts of the government during covid.
@@ScotlandsGoldOr the Etonian massive.
And stash their earnings in offshore tax havens, which is why they truly pushed for Brexit
New EU legislation would have prevented the hoity toity from robbing the UK population
It's always been like this. Whether these politicians have two Jags or two tiers, they're all a pain in the arse.
Swedens Northvolt has decided to lay off over a 1000 people this week.
Thanks for this...
20% of its global work force. The news in Canada is trying to spin it saying the EV battery plant in Quebec will not be affected.
1600. It's a dead man walking.
@@kevinW826Thanks for your input 👍
YT "They live truth".
I always keep a couple of gallons of electricity in a can in the garage for emergencies, wont catch me out.
Most ads on tv are for EVs. It makes my teeth bleed!
And they're all the same.
Stop watching TV 📺 your life will be easier😅😂
Social engineering -
Is that because you can't find a dentist? 🤣
Supermarkets in NL already stopped with discounts on meat "better for the environment" some cities also banned meat advertising. Most under pressure from activist groups. They also want to ban commercials for fuel burning cars. It will all fall apart in the next 5 years or it will be forced on us really hard by the communists. But with the right now in power I hope it will be the first.
Good morning! There’s some recently-installed Gridserve chargers near us. I’m very pleased to see that they are seldom busy.
That's because they are so foooking expensive. 😊
So there's no restriction on the charging rate then.
Our local co op has been putting in a bunch of chargers since early spring . Still not finished and now ignored by non virtue signaller drivers who just use them for parking. 😂😂😂😂😂
That's because most people charge at home. I've owned an EV since 2019 and only about 10% of my plugging in is on public chargers. I am saving about €2,000 a year on not having to buy petrol or diesel.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 - for now
On the Electrocution of the British Isles - have you seen the horror show planned for Norfolk? FOUR THOUSAND acres of FARM Land for Solar Panels? keep giving 'em hell, Geoff, while you can!
And for the enlish beneficiaries: higher taxes, higher bills and less food.
That's why they want the farmers to give up their land
electrification ...mind you we are all being electrocuted slowly anyways lol
I think that is their ultimate goal. There wont be any need for EVs if they just electrocute us all.
That’s only one of them. They’ve just foisted plans - called East Pye Solar - for another 2,750 acres of prime farmland across 12 sites all across South Norfolk. This is half a mile from my house. It’s already knocked 20% off the value of homes next to proposed fields. It’s an industrial abomination across huge swathes of a rural area we desperately need to keep for food production. And the real kicker? It won’t produce a single volt at night when we in the cold dark winters will need it most. It’s utterly insane.
Maybe gridserve is copying broadband suppliers, where the advertised claimed speeds only need to be available for 10% of the customers 10% of the time...
Yes! And the word “unlimited” has been redefined.
Chris I love that comparison, I've always thought broadband speeds was the biggest con, your surely not going to get advertised recharging rates when you cant get the "Pump Price" at some chargers, so much deception and the fools seem OK with it, what have we become.
Never get the petrol pump speeds when the person on the other side of the pump starts filling up their car too. Wait there pressing the nozzle for ages. 😂
@@Rexbilly9819 Yeah I know, frustrating isn't it....
I've never noticed any difference in fill time, but then I only use Shell V Power😊@@Rexbilly9819
I was visiting and charging gridserve for 3 years. In those 3 years gridserve changed drastically. 500% cost to kwh/p and also slowing people down and blaming their cars.
After all this horrible experience I made in depth review on gridserve google reviews with same name. Feel free to read it and if you want include it in your video.
We were forced/ brainwashed into ev. so got it for 3 years and 1 year into regrets started kicking. 2 years into it and was counting down days till when i can give this car back. Back to the diesel and never again
Diesel ⛽️ 👏👏👏
@@PUNISHERMARKO guessing you just rely on public charging?
@@Sammy-lw1ns I was told not a big issue if I cant charge at home, but it's simple to put in charger. 1 month after purchase I was told it will cost over £1500 to put in charger at my home...And cable to charge my EV from socket was £300 and used in total 7 times over 3 years
I mistakenly bought an EV. Public charging was hopeless and the price extortionate. I could not charge for less than 79p kwh and up to 85p kwh. I believe Tesla can do it for half that. Anyway, I sold it after 6 months stress and strain and luckily only lost £3,200. I say only because had I kept it another 6 months I would have over doubled that loss. Now back in a nice Seat Leon fr doing 50+ mpg
You had a lucky escape!!
How can you buy a car by mistake?🤔
@@DwaynePipes by believing all the hype, silly
Petrol ⛽️ 👍👍👍
@@DwaynePipes Car salesmen.
👏👏👏Ooh we need more exposés like this. Come on people with inside info..keep spilling the beans on this scam.
They'll make it illegal soon and label it domestic terrorism.
Dude. This Notley gridserve is great! Free parking and smooth ground for rollerblading.
I park my diesel here all the time
Only thing electric worth driving round it is retro Tamiya RC car
It's all going Pete tonge for the liars of the green revolution.😂😂😂
70% of Electric used to charge an EV does not come from a green source 😞what a sad corrupt world we live in 😞
It's all smoke and mirrors
In which country
Probably Drax...
We are ruled by political ideas from the neo soviets, merit goes out of the window.
@@steveknight878 this is a UK channel
Once we go electric,the power cuts will start happening frequently,leaving thousands stranded
that is what a smart meter is for....control , they can be turned off remotely and restrict how much you use without your consent
Hence smart meters to cut off consumers!
@@andywarrington4738a smart meter cannot cut you off from the power , take your tin foil hat off ffs.
BS!
It's the reason all new home chargers require an Internet connection. Not enough power on the grid, turn down the charge rate on all of them.
The purpose built Copper faced Gridserve service station built at Norwich ( see MacMasters review) is now becoming a white elephant. It used to have an M&S, Costa, WHSmith and Post office. Only the Costa remains, and rumours have it that this will close soon as well. A mixture of high rent and low footfall have forced these shops to close. So we have an electric service station , with no services !!! It tells you a lot about the state of Gridserve and the uptake of EV.
I’ve been there - for the loo, not for EV charging. The service at Costa was appalling, noise from the M&S fridges was so loud phone calls were tricky, and altogether it felt like a white elephant even when fully open. Must be grim now.
The Braintree one is the same, only the Costa still open. M&S and post office have closed. Not got an EV, but the post office and M&S were handy.
Dale Vince donated £5 million to Labour..! What did he get for his money…?
Was that not just a case of him handing back some of the subsidies he has had over the past few years. wrapped up as a donation so he can curry even more favours from the idiots in government!
A Palestinian scarf....
ed millibar
Objection free planning permission and license to print money
5yards of trough
Gridserve. It's a shiteshow.
The muppet owners LinkedIn says "Toddington has great vision, how to make ideas working in real life. Todd's innovative ideology drives all team to the best results, even with projects , others don't believe in." IDEOLOGY. Aka a commie. Hope his business goes bankrupt.
Toddington Bear is clearly does not have great vision. Some would say he is blind to the issue 🤣🤣 Government grants 😞
Sounds like badly translated Engrish...
They won't go bust, the whole grift is to suck up subsidies. Licence to print money with no risk
LinkedIn LOL, nerds for us. Stay away from that tech propaganda machine
@@mpearce820 I went in to get the information and no other reason
From The Telegraph, Andrew English in his story 3 days ago about his 3-month EV trial:
"It’s actually quite difficult to find out how profitable the provision of volts to electric cars is. At Companies House you’ll find 22 companies with Gridserve in the title, all with headquarters in the same building in Iver, Bucks. The articles of association are sufficiently vague to make nailing down the actual profit from charging operations almost impossible."
They are creaming it in especially where there are subsidies involved from the taxpayers!
Check out Dale Vince - he has even more companies registered to his name.....
@@johnmoncrieff3034unfortunately this! I have an EV, don't care what anyone else drives but this is exactly my basis.
Tesla just get in with it, others can't compete but they don't care, take the subsidies, try to "build their user base" (app signups) in the hour that there's a business route for takeover i.e. lots of users.
It's a total scam.
The electricity market is the new gold rush, attracting the greedy & unscrupulous! Electricity prices will have doubled within 10 years! We're being taken for mugs!
There is actually a real gold rush going on.
A younger brother should be SCRATCHwood in memory of the now named "London Gateway". With ULEZ, "London Gateway" is a sick joke.
A snapshot of modern Britain- scam on scam on scam.
What a surprise this is endemic throughout the UK. Your mobile phone is a prime example as we adopt US type of business & try to become the next us state with out representation like we did with EU.
We'll all be Chineese one day. Wiff waff anybody?
Oh dear! Someone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea. You are a rare breed sir and will soon be extinct.
I love the smell of petrol in the morning. It's the smell of freedom
Not to say that electric is great or the only way, but can you explain how does petrol or diesel make one "free"? The process of getting petrol and diesel is anything but "independent from 3rd parties". Unlike solar (again I'm not an EV evangelist just asking a very simple question).
@@hughjanus7354 Independently free, all energy comes from somewhere. What solar? If you make your own solar panels and wire them up yourself then, indeed, no third party is involved. Unless you build your own power supply then there is always, at least, a third party involved. Except for standing in the sunshine of course, ahhh Botswana.
@@jamescollins3647 I get your point, but solar panels are an one off (they do age yes) expense, so in theory they have a potential to give you the longer term "freedom". Unlike the exotic fluids which need to be extracted, come by boat or pipe, need to be refined and then transported to the final destination, where you need electricity to put them into your car (and electricity at all the previous stages too). There's as much "freedom" in that as there's freedom in the supply chain when everything is based offshore and something goes wrong.
Haha!...you petrol headed boys make me laugh. Real freedom is being able to fuel up at home from your own resources as I have done for over 5 years now. If you really want to 'stick it to the man' then get yourself and EV..When I drive past a filling station having charged overnight at home for pennies....I feel so sad for the fossil fuel slaves paying homage to the oil billionaires, having to handle a dirty smelly pump then go hand over your hard earned cash to the likes of Putin and the Sheiks. 😂😂
You love being dependent on highly-taxed fossil fuels? Honestly, I think someone with home solar and an electric car would be laughing at you here.
Geoff, Is it possible to compile a list of UK charging points and what the value of the supplied grid connection is? Maybe a spreadsheet? It may give some sort of insight? Also it seems not a day goes by now when we don't hear about companies where the 'bull...ers and blaggers' are in high positions. This even seems to extend to our government! Keep up with the great and varied content.
Just use the Tesla network whenever possible.
So they copied Broadband ISPs 20 years practice.
Here in Kidderminster , the busiest carpark (you can never get a parking space) has been cut up into a huge grid for EV charging pehaps 15 charge points havnt counted) but nobody has ever used the things and it has taken up valuable carparking space for shoppers in the town centre .
What happens if you park on them without an EV? Surely there can’t be any specific laws…yet. My hubby parks on them all the time in an old beat up Corsa. As if the police would care and is there anything parking attendants can do?
@@Starlight22215 The car park owner zealots have probably written something into the T&Cs , like must be within the white lines etc., so will issue a Parking Charge Notice.
@@Starlight22215 dickish
These charging facilities should be made to have a large dynamic display clearly showing what the current charge capacity per station is
I've an Electrical Engineer friend who tells me that the existing power grid will need to be fully replaced to support the future demand for home charging, the present cableling will totally fail !
Very interesting details Geoff. Keep following this up please.
I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S INSURANCE PREMUIMS HAVE INCREASED BECAUSE OF EVS😢😢
They haven't
Yep cost of repairs and too quick to write off,I was told this by an insurance repair garage and my own insurance company
@@andygardner9088 Insurers are lower than single cell pond scum, they'll tell anyone anything. An impenetrable cartel.
All modern cars are more expensive, sensors and safety systems in modern cars very quickly make them write offs.
A small bump in the front and the entire bouncy castle inside inflates. Multiple airbags behind trim, all of which takes time to replace, weeks of hire car rental while waiting for parts. £20k upwards...
Not EV specific at all.
@@djtaylorutube you have a good point 👍
@@djtaylorutubewhilst you are correct about what’s happening with insurance write offs, albeit only scratching the surface (think hire car cost inflation, garage repair cost inflation, only being allowed to use brand new parts with wait time etc) EVs certainly have affected the market. They are written off in all cases, damage nowhere near the battery yet deemed too high risk, more expensive to repair (both in normal parts as they require technicians certified to work on them, and obviously battery replacement costs). They don’t sell as fast or for as much money as their counterparts do, also add into that the companies/auctions add charges on for electric shock hazard and fire hazard and you have even bigger problems. Whilst they aren’t the sole reason our premiums have risen, they are certainly playing their part. If they keep increasing numbers on the road then we will have even bigger problems. Two of my businesses repair and rebuild them (all vehicles) and do insurance work. The whole thing is one big rip off for the consumer but the insurance companies never lose out.
How good will all these pylons be ? No doubt they will be made of crap cheap steel and probably fall over in a few years , not to mention we don’t make steel anymore, so where will the money go ?
China. As usual.
It'll be Chinese steel and will more than likely be made over in China too...
@@soundseeker63 China crap steel.
Shut down all UK steel production then buy thousands of new pylons from China. Where steel is made on coal power and shipped over by diesel ships, genius!
I think that there are some very influential investors behind the EV market that are starting to lose money. May explain the warped narrative…
Given that in winter the UK barely has enough electricity to go around as it is, I do have to wonder how our infrastructure is supposed to support all this new charging capacity....? On reflection it is probably a good thing that EV uptake is slower than expected despite the relentless push from above.
You could sort that winter electricity demand out by making electricity more expensive for a large group of people, therefore lowering demand.🤔 I know, pensioners!😮
I have a few properties and the money being thrown at us by EV charging companies is amazing. All funded by generously funded angel investors. The biggest problem is that the grid can't support this, even if the charge units were economically viable.
Loads of companies are in this to make a quick fortune through the Greenwashing grants etc, only now are we starting to see the cracks appear with the unobtainable ideals. Great video, best wishes.
Gridserve’s hub at gatwick is at south terminal just in front of the long stay parking, and I kid you not I was in disbelief at how bright this place was at night, like pilots probably use this place now for VFR approaches. Surely if we are to do this whole environment thing we don’t pump most of the voltage into the signage?? I swear I wasnt going mad, keep up the good work geoff.
What doesn't stink these days?
From the medical intervention, the state of the roads and now this, the list is never ending.
Even the trolls on utube are losing it
Interesting stuff! I'm in the data centre power and cooling world and can visualise what infrastructure just one 350kW charger will need to get it run at full-bore. 3 phase 630A supplies are not exactly popping out the walls. Mental.
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The MacMaster’s constant references to Vaseline might have had something to do with it 😂
Yes and I think he said bend me over just before 🤣
Yes and I think he said bend me over just before 🤣
Lee should change his reference to 'Sausages' (in line with our dear PM 🤮).
That is because Vaseline is petroleum based.
Dale Vince's barber died half way through his haircut.
Or he lost a fight with a combine harvester.
Once a crusty always a crusty!
@@nicolassales8679 crusty grifter
The main problem for the CPO's is Tesla, with their superior network - in terms of capacity, reliability & importantly dynamic pricing. In the past year I've only ever charged at home (10k miles), or on a tesla (open to all) whilst away around the country (4k miles). The CPO's need to bring down their prices to what they were 2 years ago and usage will go up
Tesla is run by an engineer.
The rest of the EV world is run by moronic zeros.
They don't care, there not in the business of serving electricity. The business that they're in is taking investor cash, government subsidies and customer signups.
Then, at some point in the future, hoping to be bought out.
@@djtaylorutube Yes - taken lessons from the water companies!
Of course they were ideologues, they were making a fortune off the back of the grift. Remember those investors are the same people that own all the "fossil" fuel companies. Those investments are made specifically to snuffle up any government subsidy (ie taxpayer's money) going. These grifts have been going for 25 years. The first one I came across was the home insulation grift, where a dodgy double glazing company suddenly grew into a huge national company delivering insulation solutions across the country. Funnily enough said company is now fully involved in the solar/heat pump/ charging points grift.
Thanks for the update.
I'll instruct my fund managers to sell everyone's investments in Gridserve.
We've been seeking info like this. If anyone else has info like this, please sent to Geoff.
Nice one Geoff. Thank you.
How will Charging companies Honestly advertise charging rates when some cant tell you the actual price per Kwh until a few days later. I see this as massive deception but people go with it, the same goes for the 25 quid deposit when you start to charge at some places, we are getting pushed around by all people at the top, Its got to stop, Please people Use Cash not credit cards, its another form of control.
Grid serve at Gatwick is a pain in the ass I was in a taxi going to catch a plane to go on holiday, but the entrance to the departure drop off was block because of cars queuing to get in to grid serve
There is a job related site that has former employees of Gridserve venting their spleen. Very interesting, not a company I have had any involvement with, nor which I wish to.
Which site...?
The whole point of not charging over 80% is that it is simply quicker on a long journey as charge rate reduces around this level, so there's no point hanging around waiting for the last slow 20% when you could be moving to the next charge and getting a faster charge rate once the state of charge has reduced. Many large charging hubs (e.g. Gridserve Braintree) are using batteries to provide higher charge rates than the grid can support, and also selling the use of these batteries to the grid for balancing when required.
So basically your battery is 20% smaller than advertised in practice. Sounds like a deal 😂
Words of a true zealot
I'd rather just fill the tank up in 3 minutes and forget about it.
So the range is reduced by 20%, which means you then have to drive to another station to charge up again.
Meanwhile my diesel with a 100% fuel load, which took a few minutes to fill, drives on for 700 miles non stop if I choose to.
Great advert for EVs.....not! 🤣
@@redrock425 Make that 40% as you're also not supposed to go below 20%
Im a smart meter engineer. We meant to be trained up on EV chargers installations , once we fit smart meters in every house in 🇬🇧. But company said there is no uptake anymore for ev chargers big enough to move into this sector. Those who already installing them might have some work for a year or 2 but that will dry up shortly
Watched yesturdays race was amazing never going see races like again..
Had a 1 hr black out just outside Woking today at work, was very glad to have a diesel v70 with a full tank.
The EV chargers work like my high-speed phone charger, which is 65W output, and works the same way. I get full high-speed charging output if I charge one device, but if three devices are connected, then I lose the high-speed charging.
Probably the root of all the trouble, as usual, greedy futures traders, just like the sub-prime mortgage disaster
Why would you trust those two Harpers? Apparently named after the motorways services car parks that they were conceived in😆
Their mother probably went there to walk the dog.
I feel bad for their younger brother, Lymm Truckstop Harper
The advice of only charging to 80% is just the average point of charge where the speed drops off.
So you could start at 150kw then up to 60% drop to 50kw then after 80% it can slow down further.
This is down to the individual cars charge curve.
Some can go full speed up to 90%, but its just easier to give a rough level.
Unfortunately you get some people that have no home charger and will just sit on a rapid charger (bonkers price) to fill up to 100%.
Instead of using a destination charger (slow ones that cost less).
It's simple. Go and buy a new car?
I've done it at numerous dealers. Evs were available within days. Petrol was 6 to 8 months waiting time. Why so they hope you are desperate to get a new car and won't be prepared to wait.
As soon as I saw this at several garages I knew what was going on with evs and the government fines ready to kick in.
For years and years all we have heard about is “investing in greener future” but we haven’t seen any returns yet. Our bills just keep going up as new investments are constantly needed. It’s all a scam and needs independent investigations. By paying taxes we’re just throwing money away and they come back asking for more.
We NEED More Whistleblowers like this guy to confirm what we have all been thinking!
Have you seen the new BMW adverts full of people saying how they love EVs and all the preconceptions about them are myths? Seems like desperation at this point
Need to report to The Weights and Measures departments throughout the country.
You and Lee, plus others are so spot on about EVs and charging. Getting threats, for me, confirms your views and opinions are right. 😊 Great work guys.
Dunno if you've heard but in Oslo they had to put biodiesel heaters on many of their electric buses now after last winters fiasco, article broke about 2 weeks ago but fun read.
This story should be raised in Parliament. Have you tried contacting anyone in the Reform Party? I’m beginning to regret naming my son Scotch Corner!
I thought that naming children after service stations was really catching on in the UK...then realised that there is no service station called Muhammad.
thanks for the info
Think if you went into a petrol station to fill up and as more people came in to fill their cars the pump speed went slower and slower to match increased pumping demand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
People have posted on here from manydifferent places and countries 💯💯👍👍👍👍.
THIS is WHY they want control of the internet !! KNOWLEDGE !!!!
Thank you to ALL who've posted , information is king .
Geoff , KEEP IT UP !!😁
I haven't seen a gridserve ad on u tube for age's 😱😱😱😱
Wonder if they are given many brown envelopes from the government to set these ventures up as well?
Dale Vince, aka to supporters of other football clubs, Stale Mince.
didnt find shrooms yet in sussex...a good plan is to have red bull or coffee on hand if you dont come up and just feel sluggish/nauseous(this can happen if you are run down/sick).a little stimulant bump can switch it up to a normal pleasant trip
If we (as a nation) were really serious about electric automotive power then there would be engineering on a par with the building of the railways, led by the same mixture of gifted engineers and hard nosed business folk of the type that did build the railways. The government would still be providing grants but because they’d be doing it in the genuine expectation of a return on investment, they’d be providing *much* more than they are.
That all of this is *not* happening suggests that a genuine shift to electric power (for everyone) is not the agenda here. I wonder what is.
Sorry listened to this I ordered my EV today can't wait to use and charge
:Our local Sainsbury has had a large number of EV chargers installed covering around 20 original parking spaces. So far, after 3 weeks open I have not seen a vehicle using them.
I wouldn't trust the grid to supply me with electricity. Especially in the future, where the demand will be 5x, 10x just for the cars alone.
It'd have to be from home, and I'm lucky enough I can actually do that, and even have some reasonably efficient solar power. And if course, if my life depended on it, but we're not quite there yet.
Dale has an castle in Gloucestershire
Dale, is a zealot of the highest order, who gets extremely excited when on social media & media's such as GB News, or Talk TV, to the point of screaming at his opposite number when clubbing him senseless with facts and figures!
The more EVs the more petrol prices will drop, which will then cause more people to buy ICEs.
Na, labour are about to kill the motorist with a fuel duty hike.
@@lightend100 people will nor be giving up their ICEs. Petrol will stay low even if those Labour bstds put an extra tax hike.
This depends entirely on Ms. Reeves et all. They decide who buys what by moving tax about to deliver the results their masters want. Recent petrol price reduction at the pump will be seen as an opportunity to increase fuel duty.
Gridserve infinitely better than the electric highway horror.
Interesting to hear all the background.
The UK needs a diverse supply of electric power including wind and coal. Closing Briitiain's last surviving coal fired power station in Nottingham recently is probably a mistake because we might want to burn coal if other sources of energy become unavailable. Also the infrastructure of old coal fired power stations could be used to convert them to waste to energy power stations. Alternatively use them as sites for small modular nuclear reactors with electric grid connections and turbines already installed on site
very interesting Geoff and MR.Anion hope you some more messages
Which part of you is your gruntle to be disgruntled?
Gruntle isn't a noun but a verb meaning to be in good humour. It's a back formation (1926, P.G. Wodehouse) of disgruntle, also a verb.
If my car has climate control, can I control the climate ?😂😂
@@Chris-ri7hbso can we have degruntled or ungruntled, having your humour removed, with redegruntle, having your humour restored, gurntling the act of humor restoration, gruntlisation the process.
Ie the disgruntled lad was regruntled following a good gruntlisation by his friends😊😊.
If you're going to name your kids after Motorway services, don't have so many kids that eventually you have to call one of them "Woolley Edge"
Great video. Regarding the Macmaster. His Taycan is 800V so as most chargers are 400V it will halve the charging rate as the manufacturers have to put a doubler in the in car charger to allow an 800V car to charge at a 400V charger including Tesla chargers. Until all chargers can charge at 800V this will be the case. Ionity is one of a few that can charge at 800V. That is why Porsche support them.
I'm suprised there hasnt been any complaints or disgruntles customers paying the high price expecting a rapid charge whne they are only getting 1/5 the output. I think prices should dynamically adjust to when its busy and not getting the advertised speed.
welcome to the world little baby Cobham-Tibshelf
Too expensive to use Gridserve. I just charge conveniently at home at 7p for 5 miles. Why would I pay 79p for 5 miles. Not viable and not required failing business model.
I find it very funny that there was a new head of operations back in April which is about the same time I started having issues charging my Mazda MX-30 on gridserve chargers! I've not been able to use gridserve since and they have said to me that I need to contact Mazda to update my software, but Mazda seem to have no idea about this issue and told me my car is already up to date cause I regularly update it in the settings when there is one available.
The thing is, Gridserve hold the monopoly over service stations and motorways, so long journeys are just out of the question for me now. I have been trying to find out my rights as a consumer as I still have finance on the car and so feel like it is just no longer fit for purpose...
Stopping at Gloucester South Services the other week on a Monday afternoon at about 1pm I noticed they have 8 Tesla chargers and 6 other dual chargers. Most of the chargers were in use and one driver had an issue charging while another took quite some time to get the charger to disconnect (One Audi and another a Cupra). The car park had approximately 180 ice cars in it so if they were EV's how could they all get a 80% charge ? Average charging from 20 to 80% takes 40 minutes plus parking and connection so 50 to 60 minutes. So it would take between 8 to 10 hours to charge all the cars in the car park that were there at at 1pm. If more cars arrived then it might be over 12 hours as I noticed at least 20 cars arrive over a 30 minute coffee break.
I think this company has finally realised the problems associated with the ridiculous electricity grid which those of us EV sceptics already knew. 👍
Too many Grifters in the EV and Heat Pump sector.
I think people are finally, belatedly waking up
Yes, heat pump my arse lol.
Even more concerning, is that the higher the advertised charging rate, the higher the rate per kWh you’re charged, as far as I know you’re not charged according to what you actually get. A bit like broadband speeds.
Thanks for this story Geoff, very interesting, after just 1min 20secs in I had an advert for a VW id4, funny that😅
I wouldn't trust Red Ed to run a bath let alone the Counties Energy Security. 😂
Can't help but think that the evangelism is financially motivated.
Yet he is. God help us.
New charging multi station recently opened near stevenage a1 juction 7. Barely used.
Great. One to use then.
If you want a laugh, go to BBC Sounds and listen to the programme that was on Radio 4 starting at 12 noon today (Thu 26 Sept 2024). Talk about pie in the sky unicorns. One day, maybe, but not in the timescales they were projecting. Not to mention everybody's cars being used as batteries to support the national grid - conveniently ignoring that in this country a HUGE proportion of the population don't have their own driveway.
It's a complete shambles.
The only discussion should be, is it by design or not.
Something covered before.
Destroying every aspect of personal transport..?
Of course it's by design ,this country is run by total idiots,they fill their pockets ,turn round and say it's not our fault.,always blame someone, something else.
I hope they sort it out soon; reliable EV charging is crucial. If you need any advice on supplier verification, feel free to ask!
This is why plugin hybrids should have been subsidised first by the government instead of the EV push. Many, charging at home doing local journeys would simply use electric and on longer journeys, if a charge point wasn't available they could switch to ICE to complete their journey. This would then gradually increase demand and give time for the infrastructure to be upgraded.
Sounds like a credible plan with a realistic objective and time scale. That will never catch on 😂.
@@Steve-GM0HUU So clearly not a fit for the UK government 😁
Dale Vince is a Cupid Stunt😂
i have just googled and found out from the day of the first ice fuel filling station it took 30 years to get ice fuel filling stations across the uk. Ice filling stations do not have to rely on massive power cables instead just buried storage tanks
True but once the backs are laid, nothing to do. On the other hand, petrol stations require constant resupply. Both have different requirements with benefits and disadvantages.