Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You can drive petrol/diesel cars for the rest of your life should you choose to do so. If you can’t afford a new car, as most people can’t anyway, none of this affects you. 2nd hand cars will be available for decades.
As for forcing you. Do the maths. Uk new car ban is 2030. On December 30th 2029 you can buy a new petrol car. Drive ir for 10 years or so. That's 2040. With plenty of maintenance you may get even longer. So say 2050. As for forcing. Oil companies have been forcing you to buy dangerous chemicals killing you and your family, paying high prices for it, driving less safe and higher fire risk cars. Oh and far less inefficient. Well to wheel efficiency is 20% vs 81% for an ev. You struggle to get an all year mog of 40. I get 150 all year round at fuel that's a 1/10 of the cost.
@PrinceHale as we all know the govt used OUR money to discount the ev price,bribed the public saying no road tax and if that wasn't enough the snidy little rats has the audacity to favour illegals of the British population and strip the least we off the winter allowance...govts that don't look out for the brits should be sacked to keep them in order !!!!
I had to laugh at my neighbour, he bought an EV this year £47.000 ,hes just had his letter about paying tax on it 😂 he said i only bought it so id save money 🤣 i just don't understand people who buy EVs to apparently save money 🤔 if you want to save money then buy a cheaper car , look what you can get for £20.000
@@vroom6591 you don’t spend £47,000 to save £300 road tax. Thats an idiot. You buy an EV because they are great and it’s the right thing to do. Tax savings are a nudge, that’s all.
Thats weird - why DID these folks think that they'd get more than 1 year free (£180) Road Tax ??? Bizarre!!! Espescially since the previous Gov. announced months ago that the rules would change from 2025 onwards.....
@@hazard3020Yes, announced back in 2022. It wasn’t the secret that the anti-EV brigade would have you believe. www.gov.uk/government/publications/introduction-of-vehicle-excise-duty-for-zero-emission-cars-vans-and-motorcycles-from-2025/introduction-of-vehicle-excise-duty-for-zero-emission-cars-vans-and-motorcycles-from-2025
Heh - these cars literally have SIM cards & report-out data to all & sundry, as covered by 'trusted partners' in the EULA of the car's software system. They also extract information from your phone, if you connect your phone to it.
The WEF mentioned at one of its conferences that a 'carrot and stick' approach to achieving net zero would be necessary. So now that you've had the carrot, expect the stick.
@@robertwood574 Chinese EVs are cheap. The EU are about to levy a 50% tariff on Chinese imports. Luckily because of Brexit we won’t have to. I’m so glad I voted for leave
Electric cars were shoved down our throats in NZ too, then once people bought them they put road tax on them and pay per klm. So my petrol car is actually now cheaper to run that the electric equivalent 😂😂
@ I suggest you get on with your own life and leave others to theirs. Don’t shove your nutty agenda down my throat I’m not interested. If I had to cycle or walk to the nearest shop to me it would take at least 6 hours so I will be keeping my car you eco nut job.
@@cherylsabol387 ooh I despise the bald clause shayts. He is responsible for EVERYTHING bad and oppressive in our world. I wish he had nothing and was definately ' not ' happy
I had a Chevrolet Volt for 4 years that was in the shop on average once a month, for anything from locks failing, water ingress in the charging circuit causing systenm to slow charge only, radio failing, ventilation system failing, you name it. I was in there so much that they knew me by name and I was getting very tired of wasting my time in there. At the beginning of it all, I never had to wait to charge it and it was mostly free. Then they split the load in that parking lot where I'd spend an hour each morning topping up the ridiculous short range while having to eat breakfast at McDonalds before heading to work. So if another car showed up, you only got 1/2 the charge in that hour. Then they limited plugging in to one hour and would start charging you after that. Then you never knew if you'd even get to charge the car. Sometime the charging cable was cut by thieves looking for copper. Now for the good news: I stopped eating at McDonald, lost weight, stopped getting up at 4:30AM, and traded the Volt for a pick-up truck. It took me four years to realize I was the fool in that scenario, but fool me once...you know the rest. Never again!😊 This was in Vancouver, BC where now you need to make reservations for a charge to have the luxury of sitting around wasting time you don't have. The whole exercise is a joke. I'm so glad I moved out and got out of this when I did.
I BOUGHT A PEUGEOT 107 2006 WHICH WAS AN MOT FAIL FOR £500 , I DID ALL THE REPAIRS MYSELF FOR £250 BEAR IN MIND THAT THIS CAR WAS OFF TO THE SCRAP YARD AND NOW IT DRIVES LIKE NEW AND WILL LAST ME FOR YEARS , HOW GREEN IS THAT!
I knew this from day one....no way is the government going to loose money in road tax ect...my dear old brother in law spent his pension pot on a £43000 range rover hoping he would save money...first year road tax was £150 then he got the letter his road tax will be £500 for next five years...I tried to find out how many EV cars were actually purchased privately as opposed to company/private lease and mobility cars....my wifes 1.5 TDI Mégane costs £20 per year road tax and will do over 600 miles on a tank of diesel...so if the idiots totally ban ic engines i want to see what the government will do with military vehicles because no way will an ev truck APC or tank will work...the whole ev thing is a total con..
Road tax should never have been free for EV's in the first place. As you say, the government were just dangling a carrot because they knew they’d have to in order to get folk to buy the things. If EV's are as good as the evangelicals and governments would have us believe, why all the initial discounts and dangling carrots? Keep up the good work, Lee. Keep banging that drum and putting the truth out about EV's.
@@shirley1827 I remember it well. About 1990. And excise duty on diesel about 20p per gallon cheaper than petrol. It encouraged me to buy a diesel, and have enjoyed 25 years of initially cheaper fuel, but in the end cheaper motoring, as diesels are more efficient and reliable. Meanwhile govt got revenue from diverse fuel sources and improved fuel resilience. So it wasn’t a bad policy to nudge people using incentives - and incentives don’t last forever. Same with EV’s but you can’t tax fuel that runs your washing machine. (Can’t recall a diesel washer dryer, but there would have been outrage if there was and diesel tax went up). EV’s are great. Smooth, quiet, clean, reliable, and cheap as chips once the loans are paid off. One day I will pay for my road tax. It’s fine. It doesn’t matter. The incentives have helped.
@MrTimRose1 I've owned both over the years and probably favoured the astra. My old Zafira is like owning a van without the commercial insurance costs. The rear seats can be moved into several configurations so it's quite versatile. I am finding when I look at modern secondhand cars for sale, they seem to be the same old faults coming up. Engine warning lights, limp mode, etc what is wrong with Motor Vehicle Companies that build cars that have these problems ? Look at the wet belt problem on fords, it's crazy whoever thought that would work ? Give me an old Triumph Herald or Morris 1000 or ford capri's/cortina's etc, from the 70's & 80's with engines so simple to maintain and no computers or engine management.
Look to the Chinese Social Credit System to see what is possible to lock people down. Personally, I never bought into the whole EV thing as it simply isn't sustainable with the power grid as it is. Also, I wondered how munching charging the things would cost when the Govt wants to find a way to replace all that lovely revenue on fossil fuel sales.
It's no secret that electric vehicles are very heavy due to the batteries weight, so this in turn has an extra wear affect on the highways, but the government should have pointed out that road fund licence duty will be payable, but then again, they had to make EVs sound attractive in the first place to sell them, CO2 levels will be the same, it's just chugging it out at a higher level in the sky at the power station as what fossil fuel vehicles do
Bristol to Aberdeen in an Electric Vehicle 15 hours with 3 extra charges & a Diesel vehicle A Tank of Fuel and 10 hours comfortable, says it all really, Who wants to be hanging around in service stations for hours on end.
@@mt5144 you don’t need to hang around if you use your common sense. It cost £7?for a full charge from 11.30am to 5.30am ( this is the cheapest time and it’s programmed to come on and go off. There are plenty of places that you can use if you needed rather than stood in the rain. I can honestly say the cost of running my ev is far cheaper than any one of my cars.
@foxtrot-ez1455 don't you think that if it is that cheap at those times 11.30 am to 5.30 am your times, then every other driver would have an EV? I take it you have a wall box and off street parking? Where I live, I would like that luxury! On street parking is great if everyone has one car per household, not when some have at least two and some others have three. How would I charge my car? Seriously. Say for example I go to Cardiff for the day. I park on street for free as it's closer for me as I have mobility issues. Take last week. Full tank of petrol (35 litres) in south Wales. A465, A40 heading to the M5 then M6 north to Preston. Roadworks on the A465 as usual. Slow traffic on the M6. Fuel gauge halfway between 1/4 and 1/2. I must have been driving like a granny. Nope. When I had the chance I was 75/80 and also headlights and air con were on all the way. Parked car. Did some light driving in Preston next day. Next day, find petrol, fill up and drive back to Wales. No charging facilities outside the Premier Inn. M6 hold up and it wasn't the only one. M6 j8 to join M5 south. It was stop, crawl, stop, crawl. This carried on for 3 miles and then it was same on M5 south. Again headlights and air con used along with wipers on intermittent sweep. Then there were road closures on A40. I got back with 1/4 tank fuel. Only stops were for the loo. I had a full tank leaving. Full tank coming home, only a small 35 litre fuel tank. Two fuel stops, with headlights and air con running for the trip up and trip back. Ten minutes total for both fuel stops. I didn't have to any stops for extra fuel like I would with an EV. By the time you faff about plugging your EV in to charge in a motorway station, I have stopped, used the loo, washed my hands and I'm back in my car and on my way. An EV doesn't work for me and I won't buy into the BS that they're the future. I don't see why I should be financed up to my ears with something that loses money faster than an alcoholic heading to a free bar and I don't want.
The EV was specifically designed for the pay-per-mile scheme that has been in the making for many years. Lol the people who bought EVs, especially those ones with a generator in the boot, and 47 mins to fill your car up?? How did people fall for this sh*t? Oh my sides hurt!
I have been saying thst RV are a con since 2009. I worked for Renault at the time of the launch and fanfare of all electric vehicles. I and my work colleagues voiced our concerns about estimated ranges, payloads etc etc etc. When advising customers NOT to purchase them as being unfit for their needs, Renault tried to come down on me like a ton of bricks. When will EV users realise that the infrastructure to support these vehicles is still 10 years away. The ranges advertised are NOT real world test figures as things like temperature , additional passengers, weight etc etc are NOT taken into account. Instead of just looking at Zero tail pipe emissions, look at the CO2 in production and CO2 cost of transportation of components. We dont make batteries in this country, but ship components from all over world, on ships that use diesel engines that are at best less than 50% efficient. And people think they are saving the planet. Dream on
They lied about diesel a few years back about them being better for the environment than petrol so l brought one, only to be told a couple of years later that the particulates from the exhaust were worse than petrol. So now being a pensioner l cannot affort to change my car, so thank the government for that. Going to keep my car going for as long as possible. So 2 fingers to the liars in government.
Stick with it my little diesel costs £35 a year to tax and under £200 for a years insurance why should I change it keeps passing the MOT no problem and suits my needs
@@AllanMumford How so? Been using solar for 2 years now and with money saved so far and with gov sup, it's half paid for. I would not be without solar.
Please explain? I’m a widow with solar panels, a bit wet behind the ears with all this new stuff my hubby used to manage - what exactly have they done about my solar panels?
You know Ed Milland has majority shares in one of these electric companies who wrote a report and said electric power is the way forward and we need more and we will be power independent
The whole pretext about EVs based on climate change is also a lie. EVs have the same carbon footprint as internal combustion engines per mile because you have to plug them jnto the mains to charge them, and guess how they generate the mains electricity? Yes by burning fossil fuels (mainly natural gas). On top of that EVs have a 50% higher carbon footprint than internal combustion cars because of the energy required to extract the components required to make the lithium batteries which is about 50% of the energy consumed within the life of the car - even before it has been driven. They lie about this by accounting for the carbon footprint required to make the batteries as a foreign carbon footprint tax which has to be bourne by the "bad" countries that mine the lithium, while we the "good" countries that use the EVs are saints who are doing everything we can to prevent global warming by using the EVs. The problem is that this is a lie - global warming is - well global, and we have one common atmosphere. Carbon dioxide released anywhere on the planet will contribute just the same to global warming. EVs are therefore the dirty option as well as the expensive option.
@deniseellenburg649 That is our problem. If people could think for them selves, use common sense and question everything to see it coming then we would not have these puppets acting out their scripts they all get handed to them aftefr we think they won the polls via votes (that do nothing but feed our address data and names to them) while the above demons like that ugly old gimp and his gang of WHO, Davos and sexpest friends choose who they want in to chat BS to us while imposing more rules and taxs keeping us too busy to think for ourselves, due to getting up for work to pay the bills and rents while we argue about rasicim or the news but forgeting to remember history has never changed and they never fix anything for or stop the lies. It is as simple as that. we are too busy to stop and think or have the unity to stick up for each other as a community in numbers to say NO. IMO we all need to take a leaf out of the Travellers that dont register their kids or live in houses being ripped off. They stick up for each other, provide and feed off the land and the dumb. Travellers or pickeys as some say are more of a rightous bunch than 90% of us wimps are. Electric cars hahaha greenwashing us with BS. while mining the ground for batterys to charge the cars while the oil anmd gas runs the plants that make them. BRING BK COMMON SENSE
@adriansolomon6805, muito bem dito. No meu país, o limite é de 120km/h. Oito em cada dez Teslas, vão bem abaixo disso e os dois que vão à velocidade normal, é perto das saídas para as cidades principais. Vão todos com range anxiety.
The Luton airport fire, that the government assures the public was a diesel, is being paid out by electric vehicle insurance. Hence this Man’s inability to re insure. The whole system stinks and it shows yet again how we cannot trust our government.
By the way...have the English forgotten the Englsh word for the Norman French word 'expensive'? The English word is DEAR. That is why letters to a bloke are headed Dear Sir. Not because of woke but because it means...of great worth ie...costly. So things are getting dearer. Some things are too dear. Please keep using English words.
@@cafsixtieslover I would. But only for a £2000 or less EV that's tax free and allows an old guy to do some shopping. But - £40,000 and now subject to road tax? And slower to refuel than 50 conventional cars in a row? Bugger off. My son, running a small building maintenance business, bought an old Vauxhall van 5 years ago for 900 quid. He's since spent 5 times that just to keep it on the road. And still considers himself ahead on the game vehicle-wise. EVs??? For most people in business they're a joke! Give me me a break, you woke idiots. You're not savers of the environment - you're the sad victims of profiteering corporations.
Now we’ve told them where they can stick their EV carrot 🥕, I see they are now using the increased Road Tax stick to try and beat us all off the road with it.
We bought diesels when the duty on diesel was lowered by the Government to promote them. Then they put the duty up when 25% of cars sold were diesel. I do not want to be scammed again. I work from home and drive a 22mpg petrol 1973 VW camper van ( used as the home office on the driveway) when I want to drive around..
its almost as if the government think there's a difference between zero emission cars and zero emission cars isnt it? The next thing I expect is... the people who can afford the more expensive variety of EV get a lower VED charge than the the people who have bought EV's of a lesser value (just to capture as much money as they can from the masses again)
The depreciation of every is astronomical, and a danger to the environment, materials used in production especially batteries, even excessive tyre /break wear
Just think how wound up car owners would be if it took 40+ minutes to fill your car with fuel and every one had to wait for the pumps to become available. That's what it will be like if we all had these disastrous failures of the automotive industries. Think about how much productive work time would be lost too. Quite ridiculous to think that's where they are pushing us to.
It also takes a lot longer to charge because the batteries needs too warm up first, all batteries do not do well in very cold conditions. An old trick with normal batteries like AA / AAA ones when they are flat, stick them in a freezer over night, take them out & when they rtn to normal temperature they get some power back.
Toilets are hard to find as fuel stations are self service & no facilities, & only cards can be used to pay. World wide floods & storms demonstrate that combustion engins & cash still work when the electricity fails.
The forthcoming Euro 7 standard will measure tyre particulates. Stand by for a big tax hike for EV’s The idea EV’s would be tax exempt for ever is for the fairies The whole life cost of EV’s is crippling.
@@Leesa111_0of course I did he took so long to get to the point i nearly fell asleep and besides he said he didn’t like electric cars so why did he buy one.
I remember the same info given on the radio about diesel cars .. Buy / Transfer to diesel. 1) they are more efficient 2) they are less polluting than petroleum cars Most importantly 3) Diesel will NEVER cost more than Petrol ??? Haha😢 of course this was all a lie … But again NO consequence to the MP pushing this LBC approx 15 years ago ???
It's called advancements. Diesels more efficient than petrol. Now evs are better than ice cars. Just like o have a flatscreen led tv that's 65 inch and uses less energy than my tiny brick of a tv 40 years ago.
How long will it be, before you’re banned from charging your car up at home 🤷♂️🤷♂️ ( probably say it’s to do with health and safety bollocks ). The government will want you to charge up at points where you will be ripped off, and pay a higher rate than what you would be charged for doing so at home. Give me a combustion engine any day
I would not buy an electric car with your wallet. I would not drive an electric car using your body and I definitely would not park in electric car in my driveway or anywhere next to any buildings.❗️
The older ones are great new emissions regs on the newer ones can be problematic, last car I went hybrid petrol get the similar mpg and don’t have the emissions stuff to go wrong,
@@PaulHeyes-k8z I will never get rid of my Volvo C30 drive 1.6ltr diesel I get 58 MPG with zero road tax that's if this hasn't been put up by this corrupt labour government.
Having driven EV's since testing a prototype for a big brand 14 years ago, I could see the limitations with them from day one. Whilst they are a nice drive, the range is impractical unless one stays local. The advertised range is achievable on a good day. It will be reduced in the winter when using the lights, wipers and especially the heating. I've had them trip out overnight at 60% which meant it was useless for that day's intended work, and, in the early days, even had to ask a customer to charge it for me as there was nowhere else in that area. I've had to drive a car to prove to a complaining customer that the vehicle can do the 300 mile range advertised. To do this I drove on the motorway at a steady 50mph on good summer days. My advice is to always halve the range shown on the screen. I've had to go to the assistance of vehicles running out of power because the charging points shown on apps were not working. They'd run out of power looking for power. Recharging away from home will be at commercial rates instead of domestic rates at the applicable VAT rates. One customer recently told me he was charged £5 to get 20 electric miles in his PHEV. More expensive than petrol & diesel. Not everyone lives in houses with off-street parking. With many houses converted to flats, how/where are people going to charge their EV's/plug-in hybrids? Running a cable across the pathway is illegal and dangerous unless, I believe, it has 10 feet headroom clearance. Failure to charge a plug-in hybrid may bring the EML on. After around 8-10 years the battery's range will have reduced, thus devaluing the car faster than a ICE. It was inevitable that road tax was always going to come to make up for the loss of revenue on that and fuel duties. Yes low or zero road tax was the carrot to get you hooked. You now have the choice of paying it or trading the car in at a greater depreciation loss. My dirty diesel is currently zero road tax but does over 60mpg and can go over 600 miles before refuelling.
I was rebuilding a classic car during the covid lockdown and thought that if I converted it to electric it would be much cheaper to run. My investigation led me to a dead end. Nobody would sell me any parts to do the job myself. I could stump up £22,000 and one supplier would take my precious classic to an authorised converter to do the job for me. I have been repairing every car I've ever owned myself, never taken one to a garage for anything but petrol and mots for over 60 years so their offer was unacceptable to me. Nobody is allowed to do any work on my cars but me, that's why they work and don't break down. I rebuilt the ice and put that back in. It's now done over more 30,000 miles using petrol, dearer to run but it only cost a few quid to rebuild the engine, it was a good one.
My deep and profound mistrust of government and authority in general indicated to me not to get the jab and not to buy a car based on glorified milk float technology. Just sayin'.
Ive got a 12 year old Mondeo and the engine still has more miles left on the clock than a new Electric car is capable of. I would rather have a horse than a milk float.🤣
The UK Govt has not got the UK people's benefit in mind - Don't ever forget that !!
If the government encourages you to do something it's generally not a good idea , top tip
Smart Meter, anyone?
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Nooooo!
@@tooleyheadbang4239 they forced these on us in Canada
Force people to change to cars that most cannot afford thereby remove personal transport from the poorest.
@@eaaslee Chinese EVs are cheap. And because of Brexit we won’t have to pay the ridiculous tariffs the EU are going to levy on Chinese EVs
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You can drive petrol/diesel cars for the rest of your life should you choose to do so. If you can’t afford a new car, as most people can’t anyway, none of this affects you. 2nd hand cars will be available for decades.
The cheapest car in uk is an ev. Even lease them, they're cheaper than petrol cars. Do some research unlike the youtuber you watch.
As for forcing you. Do the maths.
Uk new car ban is 2030. On December 30th 2029 you can buy a new petrol car. Drive ir for 10 years or so. That's 2040. With plenty of maintenance you may get even longer. So say 2050.
As for forcing. Oil companies have been forcing you to buy dangerous chemicals killing you and your family, paying high prices for it, driving less safe and higher fire risk cars. Oh and far less inefficient. Well to wheel efficiency is 20% vs 81% for an ev. You struggle to get an all year mog of 40. I get 150 all year round at fuel that's a 1/10 of the cost.
I think the massive EV depreciation and the lack of take up by almost anyone but company car drivers shows that the public haven't really been conned.
How anyone thought that Road Fund would NEVER be charged on EV’s is beyond me!
@PrinceHale as we all know the govt used OUR money to discount the ev price,bribed the public saying no road tax and if that wasn't enough the snidy little rats has the audacity to favour illegals of the British population and strip the least we off the winter allowance...govts that don't look out for the brits should be sacked to keep them in order !!!!
@@PrinceHale Nobody, not even the government said the road tax would remain zero.
@@PrinceHale Like interest rates....fools belive they will stay low forever....
@@PrinceHale I pay nil road tax on my diesel golf tdi. I wonder if it will change?
Nobody has paid road tax for many years (I’ve forgotten how long).
I had to laugh at my neighbour, he bought an EV this year £47.000 ,hes just had his letter about paying tax on it 😂 he said i only bought it so id save money 🤣 i just don't understand people who buy EVs to apparently save money 🤔 if you want to save money then buy a cheaper car , look what you can get for £20.000
@@vroom6591
you don’t spend £47,000 to save £300 road tax.
Thats an idiot.
You buy an EV because they are great and it’s the right thing to do. Tax savings are a nudge, that’s all.
Thats weird - why DID these folks think that they'd get more than 1 year free (£180) Road Tax ??? Bizarre!!! Espescially since the previous Gov. announced months ago that the rules would change from 2025 onwards.....
@@hazard3020Yes, announced back in 2022. It wasn’t the secret that the anti-EV brigade would have you believe.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/introduction-of-vehicle-excise-duty-for-zero-emission-cars-vans-and-motorcycles-from-2025/introduction-of-vehicle-excise-duty-for-zero-emission-cars-vans-and-motorcycles-from-2025
@@vroom6591 you can get a good diesel for under 3K and as long you are capable of doing simple maintenance it's easy on the wallet
@@vroom6591 don't understand why anyone would buy any new car to save anything
Driving around in an electric ' Milk Float ' ,, no mate you are driving around in a ' Cell Phone ' , disposable rubbish that cant be recycled !
@@WhoToldMeSo 😂😂😂😂😂
@@WhoToldMeSo 'ON' the back, but it would get wet.
Heh - these cars literally have SIM cards & report-out data to all & sundry, as covered by 'trusted partners' in the EULA of the car's software system.
They also extract information from your phone, if you connect your phone to it.
@@ArifGhostwriter Then don't!
@@petermartin2346 a bit of modding and it would make a nice camper that would keep everything dry.
People can't afford to heat their homes with electricity. So how the hell are they gonna be able to have an electric car?
It’s obvious to most of us ..But people, “Sorry Experts”get away making these false claims and lying to all of us …
The WEF mentioned at one of its conferences that a 'carrot and stick' approach to achieving net zero would be necessary. So now that you've had the carrot, expect the stick.
What is annoying is that we, the taxpayer, are subsidising every electric car for the ultimate benefit of China.
They should not be putting road tax on used electric cars .Only when new .
@@robertwood574 Chinese EVs are cheap. The EU are about to levy a 50% tariff on Chinese imports. Luckily because of Brexit we won’t have to. I’m so glad I voted for leave
Electric cars were shoved down our throats in NZ too, then once people bought them they put road tax on them and pay per klm. So my petrol car is actually now cheaper to run that the electric equivalent 😂😂
@elaber5 it's as though we are being run by the same people. A globalist world with the narrative being world wide.
@@elaber5 I think you should give up your car and walk or get a bike
@ I suggest you get on with your own life and leave others to theirs. Don’t shove your nutty agenda down my throat I’m not interested. If I had to cycle or walk to the nearest shop to me it would take at least 6 hours so I will be keeping my car you eco nut job.
@@elaber5 how do they charge you per km? 🤔 they would have to track you some how?
@ the record the klms when you have a service and when you get a warrant also know as an mot and that is given to the government.
Their endgame is to price you off the roads. they dont want you driving
@@MrOharaj exactly rightm
@@MrOharaj They aren’t doing a very good job of it. In the UK we have over 41 million vehicles on the roads.
You can't seriously be shocked living here in the UK that you were Lied to by the Government. :o)
Just reminds me of the whole "environmentally effective" diesel scams of the early-mid 2000s.
@@gazdav422 fool me once? Fool me forever 🤣
Saw this coming years ago. Climate change is a huge earner...
The world changed even before Man came to earth
“YOU’LL OWN NOTHING AND YOU’LL BE HAPPY”
KLAUS SCHWAB WEF…
@@cherylsabol387 ooh I despise the bald clause shayts. He is responsible for EVERYTHING bad and oppressive in our world. I wish he had nothing and was definately ' not ' happy
Time to take our country back. Get rid of the corrupt government and corporations etc..
I had a Chevrolet Volt for 4 years that was in the shop on average once a month, for anything from locks failing, water ingress in the charging circuit causing systenm to slow charge only, radio failing, ventilation system failing, you name it.
I was in there so much that they knew me by name and I was getting very tired of wasting my time in there.
At the beginning of it all, I never had to wait to charge it and it was mostly free. Then they split the load in that parking lot where I'd spend an hour each morning topping up the ridiculous short range while having to eat breakfast at McDonalds before heading to work. So if another car showed up, you only got 1/2 the charge in that hour. Then they limited plugging in to one hour and would start charging you after that. Then you never knew if you'd even get to charge the car. Sometime the charging cable was cut by thieves looking for copper. Now for the good news: I stopped eating at McDonald, lost weight, stopped getting up at 4:30AM, and traded the Volt for a pick-up truck. It took me four years to realize I was the fool in that scenario, but fool me once...you know the rest.
Never again!😊
This was in Vancouver, BC where now you need to make reservations for a charge to have the luxury of sitting around wasting time you don't have. The whole exercise is a joke.
I'm so glad I moved out and got out of this when I did.
I think electric cars are the least of our worries at the moment,with what’s going on with this evil lot that we are stuck with.
The English mentality around politics is absolutely astounding.
@@jaktag Thing is the electric car is part of that evil...
I saw a story the other day that from January 2025 Jaguar will only be selling EV's ,what a massive mistake.
When a politician's mouth is moving its always a lie.
Or breathing.
They'll soon charge us to breath! 😔
@@joannekean1477 funnily enough this comment was made by someone in a queue just after the end of WW2,labour government again.
Thankfully I cannot afford electric cars so I’m glad I can’t afford them 🤙🏻
I would not like to travel on a fire bomb.
I BOUGHT A PEUGEOT 107 2006 WHICH WAS AN MOT FAIL FOR £500 , I DID ALL THE REPAIRS MYSELF FOR £250 BEAR IN MIND THAT THIS CAR WAS OFF TO THE SCRAP YARD AND NOW IT DRIVES LIKE NEW AND WILL LAST ME FOR YEARS , HOW GREEN IS THAT!
Well done why loose thousands on depreciation as long as it does the job and suits your needs
Mmmmm #Marj Simpson.
Well done
They want to make driving as unpleasant as possible.
I knew this from day one....no way is the government going to loose money in road tax ect...my dear old brother in law spent his pension pot on a £43000 range rover hoping he would save money...first year road tax was £150 then he got the letter his road tax will be £500 for next five years...I tried to find out how many EV cars were actually purchased privately as opposed to company/private lease and mobility cars....my wifes 1.5 TDI Mégane costs £20 per year road tax and will do over 600 miles on a tank of diesel...so if the idiots totally ban ic engines i want to see what the government will do with military vehicles because no way will an ev truck APC or tank will work...the whole ev thing is a total con..
Me too. wonder what emergency vehicle will be powered by.
@evanpenny348 probably Millibands bullshit ...
If people thought they wouldn't be paying some sort of tax on their ev's in the long run they really are short sighted.
We already pay tax per mile, its called fuel duty and vat.
Precisely.
@@abergreg tax is very high in this country our government needs it for. 🤔
Us 🤔
@@abergreg but currently you can drive as many miles as you like with electric they can ration you and even turn you off completely
@@wineweasel No you cant, they run out and leave you stranded, only dullards have bought them.
Road tax should never have been free for EV's in the first place. As you say, the government were just dangling a carrot because they knew they’d have to in order to get folk to buy the things. If EV's are as good as the evangelicals and governments would have us believe, why all the initial discounts and dangling carrots? Keep up the good work, Lee. Keep banging that drum and putting the truth out about EV's.
They also pushed diesel cars at the beginning, saying they would get cheeper diesel than petrol, then made diesel more expensive.😢
@@shirley1827
I've pushed my Diesel Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 CDTI many times after it's gone into limp mode and broken down ! Lol 😂
@@shirley1827 Yes buying and running a diesel car's is more expensive, but definitely more economical long term.
@@shirley1827
I remember it well. About 1990.
And excise duty on diesel about 20p per gallon cheaper than petrol.
It encouraged me to buy a diesel, and have enjoyed 25 years of initially cheaper fuel, but in the end cheaper motoring, as diesels are more efficient and reliable.
Meanwhile govt got revenue from diverse fuel sources and improved fuel resilience.
So it wasn’t a bad policy to nudge people using incentives - and incentives don’t last forever.
Same with EV’s but you can’t tax fuel that runs your washing machine. (Can’t recall a diesel washer dryer, but there would have been outrage if there was and diesel tax went up).
EV’s are great. Smooth, quiet, clean, reliable, and cheap as chips once the loans are paid off.
One day I will pay for my road tax.
It’s fine. It doesn’t matter. The incentives have helped.
@@streetlife8461
I loved the idea of a Zafira. Can’t figure out why they were so much worse than an Astra.
@MrTimRose1
I've owned both over the years and probably favoured the astra.
My old Zafira is like owning a van without the commercial insurance costs.
The rear seats can be moved into several configurations so it's quite versatile.
I am finding when I look at modern secondhand cars for sale, they seem to be the same old faults coming up.
Engine warning lights, limp mode, etc what is wrong with
Motor Vehicle Companies that build cars that have these problems ?
Look at the wet belt problem on fords, it's crazy whoever thought that would work ?
Give me an old Triumph Herald or Morris 1000 or ford capri's/cortina's etc, from the 70's & 80's with engines so simple to maintain and no computers or engine management.
Look to the Chinese Social Credit System to see what is possible to lock people down. Personally, I never bought into the whole EV thing as it simply isn't sustainable with the power grid as it is. Also, I wondered how munching charging the things would cost when the Govt wants to find a way to replace all that lovely revenue on fossil fuel sales.
It's no secret that electric vehicles are very heavy due to the batteries weight, so this in turn has an extra wear affect on the highways, but the government should have pointed out that road fund licence duty will be payable, but then again, they had to make EVs sound attractive in the first place to sell them, CO2 levels will be the same, it's just chugging it out at a higher level in the sky at the power station as what fossil fuel vehicles do
Jeremy Hunt declared in a previous budget a year or two ago that a charge would soon be implemented for electric vehicles.
Mr Mac Master suffers from selective memory loss.
Exactly.
THEY ARE A BLOODY SCAM
Drain the Westminster swamp
Bristol to Aberdeen in an Electric Vehicle 15 hours with 3 extra charges & a Diesel vehicle A Tank of Fuel and 10 hours comfortable, says it all really, Who wants to be hanging around in service stations for hours on end.
@@mt5144 you don’t need to hang around if you use your common sense. It cost £7?for a full charge from 11.30am to 5.30am ( this is the cheapest time and it’s programmed to come on and go off. There are plenty of places that you can use if you needed rather than stood in the rain.
I can honestly say the cost of running my ev is far cheaper than any one of my cars.
@foxtrot-ez1455 don't you think that if it is that cheap at those times 11.30 am to 5.30 am your times, then every other driver would have an EV? I take it you have a wall box and off street parking? Where I live, I would like that luxury! On street parking is great if everyone has one car per household, not when some have at least two and some others have three.
How would I charge my car? Seriously. Say for example I go to Cardiff for the day. I park on street for free as it's closer for me as I have mobility issues.
Take last week. Full tank of petrol (35 litres) in south Wales.
A465, A40 heading to the M5 then M6 north to Preston. Roadworks on the A465 as usual. Slow traffic on the M6. Fuel gauge halfway between 1/4 and 1/2. I must have been driving like a granny. Nope. When I had the chance I was 75/80 and also headlights and air con were on all the way. Parked car. Did some light driving in Preston next day. Next day, find petrol, fill up and drive back to Wales. No charging facilities outside the Premier Inn. M6 hold up and it wasn't the only one. M6 j8 to join M5 south. It was stop, crawl, stop, crawl. This carried on for 3 miles and then it was same on M5 south. Again headlights and air con used along with wipers on intermittent sweep. Then there were road closures on A40. I got back with 1/4 tank fuel. Only stops were for the loo.
I had a full tank leaving. Full tank coming home, only a small 35 litre fuel tank. Two fuel stops, with headlights and air con running for the trip up and trip back. Ten minutes total for both fuel stops. I didn't have to any stops for extra fuel like I would with an EV. By the time you faff about plugging your EV in to charge in a motorway station, I have stopped, used the loo, washed my hands and I'm back in my car and on my way.
An EV doesn't work for me and I won't buy into the BS that they're the future. I don't see why I should be financed up to my ears with something that loses money faster than an alcoholic heading to a free bar and I don't want.
They did this with doesel cars. Now its EV's. Why is anyone surprised? It is all about the money!
The EV was specifically designed for the pay-per-mile scheme that has been in the making for many years. Lol the people who bought EVs, especially those ones with a generator in the boot, and 47 mins to fill your car up?? How did people fall for this sh*t? Oh my sides hurt!
swap to lpg they said
change to diesel they said .
move over to electric they said .
any one else seeing a pattern here ?
Now you go drive a steam powered car sir.
Steam is the future.
@@kenik2023LOL😂😂😂😂
Walking boots next?
YEP I SEE IT
In life and more recently people have got to be more discerning about what they buy rather than jumping on the bandwagon or believing the govt .
I have been saying thst RV are a con since 2009. I worked for Renault at the time of the launch and fanfare of all electric vehicles. I and my work colleagues voiced our concerns about estimated ranges, payloads etc etc etc. When advising customers NOT to purchase them as being unfit for their needs, Renault tried to come down on me like a ton of bricks. When will EV users realise that the infrastructure to support these vehicles is still 10 years away. The ranges advertised are NOT real world test figures as things like temperature , additional passengers, weight etc etc are NOT taken into account. Instead of just looking at Zero tail pipe emissions, look at the CO2 in production and CO2 cost of transportation of components. We dont make batteries in this country, but ship components from all over world, on ships that use diesel engines that are at best less than 50% efficient. And people think they are saving the planet. Dream on
They lied about diesel a few years back about them being better for the environment than petrol so l brought one, only to be told a couple of years later that the particulates from the exhaust were worse than petrol. So now being a pensioner l cannot affort to change my car, so thank the government for that. Going to keep my car going for as long as possible. So 2 fingers to the liars in government.
Stick with it my little diesel costs £35 a year to tax and under £200 for a years insurance why should I change it keeps passing the MOT no problem and suits my needs
@@mansfieldlad123🤘🏻👍🏻
They did the same with solar panels... totally lied
@@AllanMumford How so? Been using solar for 2 years now and with money saved so far and with gov sup, it's half paid for. I would not be without solar.
Please explain? I’m a widow with solar panels, a bit wet behind the ears with all this new stuff my hubby used to manage - what exactly have they done about my solar panels?
Funny how net zero always ends up being a case for smoke and mirrors.
You know Ed Milland has majority shares in one of these electric companies who wrote a report and said electric power is the way forward and we need more and we will be power independent
The whole pretext about EVs based on climate change is also a lie. EVs have the same carbon footprint as internal combustion engines per mile because you have to plug them jnto the mains to charge them, and guess how they generate the mains electricity? Yes by burning fossil fuels (mainly natural gas). On top of that EVs have a 50% higher carbon footprint than internal combustion cars because of the energy required to extract the components required to make the lithium batteries which is about 50% of the energy consumed within the life of the car - even before it has been driven. They lie about this by accounting for the carbon footprint required to make the batteries as a foreign carbon footprint tax which has to be bourne by the "bad" countries that mine the lithium, while we the "good" countries that use the EVs are saints who are doing everything we can to prevent global warming by using the EVs. The problem is that this is a lie - global warming is - well global, and we have one common atmosphere. Carbon dioxide released anywhere on the planet will contribute just the same to global warming. EVs are therefore the dirty option as well as the expensive option.
Shhhhhhhh!!! We're not supposed to be smart enough to figure it out...
@deniseellenburg649 That is our problem. If people could think for them selves, use common sense and question everything to see it coming then we would not have these puppets acting out their scripts they all get handed to them aftefr we think they won the polls via votes (that do nothing but feed our address data and names to them) while the above demons like that ugly old gimp and his gang of WHO, Davos and sexpest friends choose who they want in to chat BS to us while imposing more rules and taxs keeping us too busy to think for ourselves, due to getting up for work to pay the bills and rents while we argue about rasicim or the news but forgeting to remember history has never changed and they never fix anything for or stop the lies. It is as simple as that. we are too busy to stop and think or have the unity to stick up for each other as a community in numbers to say NO. IMO we all need to take a leaf out of the Travellers that dont register their kids or live in houses being ripped off. They stick up for each other, provide and feed off the land and the dumb. Travellers or pickeys as some say are more of a rightous bunch than 90% of us wimps are. Electric cars hahaha greenwashing us with BS. while mining the ground for batterys to charge the cars while the oil anmd gas runs the plants that make them. BRING BK COMMON SENSE
I have just driven back to Bournemouth from Cornwall and I noticed that all electric cars are in the slow lane and doing well under 70 mph 😊
Probably doing a steady 60mph to increase the range.
@adriansolomon6805, muito bem dito.
No meu país, o limite é de 120km/h. Oito em cada dez Teslas, vão bem abaixo disso e os dois que vão à velocidade normal, é perto das saídas para as cidades principais. Vão todos com range anxiety.
Sounds sensible....maybe they have brains after all. Meanwhile in Towns....EV goes whizzing past...🤷♂️
I'm really getting sick of this word, "community".
What I’ve see is electric cars are dangerous. How many have blown up. And the wind turbines. What a joke.
The Luton airport fire, that the government assures the public was a diesel, is being paid out by electric vehicle insurance. Hence this Man’s inability to re insure. The whole system stinks and it shows yet again how we cannot trust our government.
Balloons blow up. Petroleum cars explode & EVs are good as an all night camp fire in winter.
By the way...have the English forgotten the Englsh word for the Norman French word 'expensive'? The English word is DEAR. That is why letters to a bloke are headed Dear Sir. Not because of woke but because it means...of great worth ie...costly. So things are getting dearer. Some things are too dear. Please keep using English words.
Wait till the power failures occur leaving you marooned away from home 😢
Knew this 3 years ago ... anything they endorse is just about control
It's all about control and money
Would not touch one even if I could afford one.
@@cafsixtieslover
I would. But only for a £2000 or less EV that's tax free and allows an old guy to do some shopping.
But - £40,000 and now subject to road tax? And slower to refuel than 50 conventional cars in a row?
Bugger off.
My son, running a small building maintenance business, bought an old Vauxhall van 5 years ago for 900 quid. He's since spent 5 times that just to keep it on the road. And still considers himself ahead on the game vehicle-wise.
EVs??? For most people in business they're a joke!
Give me me a break, you woke idiots. You're not savers of the environment - you're the sad victims of profiteering corporations.
We end up paying per mile for roads that we paid for through taxes and that the government failed to maintain through incompetence.
@@macbitz I have had to have 4 x new tyres this year on my Mercedes! Joke!
Now we’ve told them where they can stick their EV carrot 🥕, I see they are now using the increased Road Tax stick to try and beat us all off the road with it.
It’s another part of the swiz playing out. The green scam goes on
We bought diesels when the duty on diesel was lowered by the Government to promote them. Then they put the duty up when 25% of cars sold were diesel. I do not want to be scammed again. I work from home and drive a 22mpg petrol 1973 VW camper van ( used as the home office on the driveway) when I want to drive around..
Remember when the government did the same thing with Diesel engines?
Bro your eating poison
@@billyclinton9150 Aye . What's in that mayonnaise ?
@@chasleask8533More to the point, was it an actual clucking chicken or a lab-made version? Old Billy g ates is the champion of that idea.
Duh, you didn’t see that coming. What l didn’t expect is different fees depending on value. Your parliament hates you.
its almost as if the government think there's a difference between zero emission cars and zero emission cars isnt it? The next thing I expect is... the people who can afford the more expensive variety of EV get a lower VED charge than the the people who have bought EV's of a lesser value (just to capture as much money as they can from the masses again)
The depreciation of every is astronomical, and a danger to the environment, materials used in production especially batteries, even excessive tyre /break wear
One thing I know for sure. It is always raining and miserable in the UK. Usually the weather but mostly the politics.
It's bloody ridiculous to take 47 minutes to refill a car.😅😅😅😅
Yes and imagine 30 cars pulling into a charging station with only 4 charging ports.
Diesel until I die
Just wait until you find out with smart meters they can drain your cars battery to save the grid in an emergency.
I always knew electric cars were shite and dangerous 😂
Your never ending quest for a charger has put me off buying one for a lifetime.Well done.😂
Anyone who genuinely believed that EVs were going to remain cheaper was truly deluded.
Just think how wound up car owners would be if it took 40+ minutes to fill your car with fuel and every one had to wait for the pumps to become available. That's what it will be like if we all had these disastrous failures of the automotive industries. Think about how much productive work time would be lost too. Quite ridiculous to think that's where they are pushing us to.
Let’s not forget, in the last decade the government were telling us to buy diesel.
yea labour
@@mojoguy7700 They are both exactly the same.
Americans from Minnesota say they just won’t start in the -20c winters.
It also takes a lot longer to charge because the batteries needs too warm up first, all batteries do not do well in very cold conditions. An old trick with normal batteries like AA / AAA ones when they are flat, stick them in a freezer over night, take them out & when they rtn to normal temperature they get some power back.
When USA coughs, the western world's pseudo intellectuals gets verbal diarrhoea.
You need to sue the Government for causing mental health issues.
Remember when they promoted diesel cars?!!
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The geet engine will transform any fuel engine I'm building one fir my boat so I can travel the whole world for free
@@RachelSkinner-q4e 👍
@@RachelSkinner-q4e yeah in those days diesel was much cheaper than petrol........
Remember when they promoted tobacco 🤣👍🏻
Toilets are hard to find as fuel stations are self service & no facilities, & only cards can be used to pay. World wide floods & storms demonstrate that combustion engins & cash still work when the electricity fails.
The forthcoming Euro 7 standard will measure tyre particulates.
Stand by for a big tax hike for EV’s
The idea EV’s would be tax exempt for ever is for the fairies
The whole life cost of EV’s is crippling.
Here in Denmark they are doing exactly the same thing
23 pounds to charge your electric vehicle, omg.
How much would that cost you if you didn't at your home?
If you don’t like electric cars. What did you buy one for.
Did you watch the video. They were all lied to
@@Leesa111_0of course I did he took so long to get to the point i nearly fell asleep and besides he said he didn’t like electric cars so why did he buy one.
I remember the same info given on the radio about diesel cars ..
Buy / Transfer to diesel.
1) they are more efficient
2) they are less polluting than petroleum cars
Most importantly
3) Diesel will NEVER cost more than Petrol ???
Haha😢 of course this was all a lie …
But again NO consequence to the MP pushing this
LBC approx 15 years ago ???
It's called advancements. Diesels more efficient than petrol. Now evs are better than ice cars. Just like o have a flatscreen led tv that's 65 inch and uses less energy than my tiny brick of a tv 40 years ago.
Who could have foreseen this new tax? EVERYONE!
At this point if you believe Government or MSM on anything you need serious help..
@@oneeleven9832 The gov. Are most definitely trolling us, on an epic scale.
Dangle the carrot then remove it. There's nothing new under the sun.
How long will it be, before you’re banned from charging your car up at home 🤷♂️🤷♂️ ( probably say it’s to do with health and safety bollocks ). The government will want you to charge up at points where you will be ripped off, and pay a higher rate than what you would be charged for doing so at home. Give me a combustion engine any day
@@mattscfc849
Using smart meters the government was probably add 20% VAT on your electric bill purely for EV charging.
I would not buy an electric car with your wallet. I would not drive an electric car using your body and I definitely would not park in electric car in my driveway or anywhere next to any buildings.❗️
Having seen all the terrifying videos online, showing what happens when they spontaneously ignite, I don’t even want to get inside an electric car!
Yes, no doubt at all, it IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL
Greggs is not real food. It's barely one step up from Maccy Ds.
DIESEL ALL DAY LONG FOR ME
The older ones are great new emissions regs on the newer ones can be problematic, last car I went hybrid petrol get the similar mpg and don’t have the emissions stuff to go wrong,
@@PaulHeyes-k8z I will never get rid of my Volvo C30 drive 1.6ltr diesel I get 58 MPG with zero road tax that's if this hasn't been put up by this corrupt labour government.
Having driven EV's since testing a prototype for a big brand 14 years ago, I could see the limitations with them from day one.
Whilst they are a nice drive, the range is impractical unless one stays local.
The advertised range is achievable on a good day. It will be reduced in the winter when using the lights, wipers and especially the heating.
I've had them trip out overnight at 60% which meant it was useless for that day's intended work, and, in the early days, even had to ask a customer to charge it for me as there was nowhere else in that area.
I've had to drive a car to prove to a complaining customer that the vehicle can do the 300 mile range advertised. To do this I drove on the motorway at a steady 50mph on good summer days.
My advice is to always halve the range shown on the screen.
I've had to go to the assistance of vehicles running out of power because the charging points shown on apps were not working.
They'd run out of power looking for power.
Recharging away from home will be at commercial rates instead of domestic rates at the applicable VAT rates.
One customer recently told me he was charged £5 to get 20 electric miles in his PHEV. More expensive than petrol & diesel.
Not everyone lives in houses with off-street parking. With many houses converted to flats, how/where are people going to charge their EV's/plug-in hybrids?
Running a cable across the pathway is illegal and dangerous unless, I believe, it has 10 feet headroom clearance.
Failure to charge a plug-in hybrid may bring the EML on.
After around 8-10 years the battery's range will have reduced, thus devaluing the car faster than a ICE.
It was inevitable that road tax was always going to come to make up for the loss of revenue on that and fuel duties.
Yes low or zero road tax was the carrot to get you hooked. You now have the choice of paying it or trading the car in at a greater depreciation loss.
My dirty diesel is currently zero road tax but does over 60mpg and can go over 600 miles before refuelling.
My God the UK looks grim and not just the weather!
I was rebuilding a classic car during the covid lockdown and thought that if I converted it to electric it would be much cheaper to run.
My investigation led me to a dead end. Nobody would sell me any parts to do the job myself. I could stump up £22,000 and one supplier would take my precious classic to an authorised converter to do the job for me. I have been repairing every car I've ever owned myself, never taken one to a garage for anything but petrol and mots for over 60 years so their offer was unacceptable to me. Nobody is allowed to do any work on my cars but me, that's why they work and don't break down.
I rebuilt the ice and put that back in. It's now done over more 30,000 miles using petrol, dearer to run but it only cost a few quid to rebuild the engine, it was a good one.
The Government, lying? Surely not 🤔😂😂
My deep and profound mistrust of government and authority in general indicated to me not to get the jab and not to buy a car based on glorified milk float technology. Just sayin'.
So are so-called smart meters. Heat pumps. And carbon capture BS.
Compared to government and globalists I love oil companies.
Ive got a 12 year old Mondeo and the engine still has more miles left on the clock than a new Electric car is capable of. I would rather have a horse than a milk float.🤣
Ok so if banks and car finance companies can be charged with miss selling then surely a government can
You could save money by eating the Proper Human Diet, Meat, fish and eggs 😂😂😂
Greggs are just rubbish 🗑 only fit for the bin,
Thanks mac master