The Smiths watch with the design closest to the original is still the "Everest Expedition". It has central seconds instead of small seconds, and it looks like the Smiths watch used by the members of the TransAntarctic Expedition a few years later. This expedition was an amazing feat, requiring collaboration between United Kingdom and New Zealand over several years, and the scientific research work performed along the way makes this expedition, in my view, at least as important as climbing the Everest for the first time. And the photos of the vehicles stuck on giant crevasses are terrifying. As a woman, it is not easy to find smaller watches that do not look overly "blingy". I think it will be my first automatic watch. Subscribed. Keep up the good work! :)
Thank you so much for that. That really made me smile and it’s great to know I’ve helped just one person make a decision about buying something. Thank you 😊. The ⏱👨⚕️
I totally agree with you. I have both of them and I am pretty regret to buy the real one. There is no connection with Rolex however I love prs-25. It would be perfect watch if they could improve the clasp.
@@Leventgursoy11 I actually like the chunky clasp and have been looking for one on eBay. I have version one clasp, of which is excellent but I like the adj feature on your clasp. A trade? lol
@@fordhammie Haha - you must be the only one that likes that shitty "chunky" clasp. Go check to the forums where the people tells what they think of it. If you really like them I think you can fill a bucket of them... you wont need much money to buy them all
I recently managed to snag one of these 40mm Eversts from a seller on Watchuseek and it's very quickly become my daily wearer. Really like the high domed sapphire crystal, good lume and the simplicity yet easy readability of the face and hands. Mine came on an aftermarket Engineer 2 bracelet but I'm currently rocking it on a Perlon strap, which really works well with it. Good review btw.
I have the 40mm as well. Fantastic watch. Missed a couple of the ordering rounds and finally snagged one about 6 months ago. As you commented, it is chunky, a very substantial time piece. Wish the bracelet was a little smaller at the clasp. I tend to take it off if I am going to be orking on the computer. I love it.
I really enjoyed your review of the Smiths 40mm PRS-25 Everest and have subscribed. Interestingly, I was drawn to the Smiths watches because of the 36mm option. There are many watches on the market that are 40-45mm. I have since acquired a Smiths Everest, cream face 36mm and the latest Smiths PRS-47 with the Tropical dial and love them both, great watches. They now come with a much improved bracelet. However, I have found that the accuracy of the Miyota movements are not as good as the Sellita or ETA Movements that I have in my TAG and Christopher Ward watches. Also, I would be hesitant to swim with these watches. Kind Regards
Yes I think I would be careful with swimming with it too. I’ve seen the ones you’re talking about. Great choices both of them. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
Can never get one of these smiths prs25, always sold out,very frustrating. Why he does not allow you to order and prepay for one like Lorier does is a mystery to me.😢
Great review. I just got the latest version of the 36mm, and absolutely love it. I have to agree with you that this is the closest to the one watch collection that I own. I do have a lot of watches including Seiko SARBs & SKXs, Borealis, Nodus, Casio, and others. Each watch has its own appeal, but this Smiths stands out from all the others. Build quality, specs, and wrist presence are outstanding. I won't spend 10K for a watch, so this may be my grail watch. Looking forward to more reviews. Thanks
I’m with you there. I wouldn’t be able to afford a 10K watch either. But why would anybody need to when there are such great sub £500 watches out there?! The fact that Eddie is literally re-inventing these fantastic brands from his garage in Sheffield is amazing I think
I have also 40mm version. No doubt, it is great watch. However I could not understand Timefactor business structure. Watches are always sold out. If one they decide to be supported by a business development professional, the can understand the potential of the market. Nowadays easy to find 1016 explorer by 15000eu but impossible to find Smiths everest.
I’ve got to be honest, I keep scratching my head about this too. Not a good model at all. Obviously people want them, but no access to them. You’re right, it’s like getting hold of a 1960s Rolex yes. 😂. The ⏱👨⚕️
I don’t agree. My take is that a fake is a knockoff. An homage pays tribute to styles and influences from other pieces. Think of it as an up to date remake. You might not like the remake and that’s your choice entirely. But it isn’t pretending to be something it isn’t, which a “knock off” does. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
@@deanwaller8283 I disagree. That looks exactly like a Rolex. The only difference between the design of that watch and an Explorer is the name. It is a knockoff. Putting a different name on it and calling it a homage is only a legal loophole. It's a knockoff. Is it impossible for Smiths to design something original? Apparently.
@@fordhammie Not sure how we went from discussing the design of a watch, an inanimate object, to a living organism. That's quite a jump. No one designed me. I Am. No one is like me. I am not mass produced. I did not begin my life as an idea and a sketch. There is no pre-production version of me. Not the best way to prove a point Rodriguez. It only proves you're unable to prove any point. Try again.
Smiths watches are nothing more than a watch made 100% in china with chinese generic parts. This is what you are buying if you go ahead. Why a Rolex homage? because the chinese have been making rolex copies for decades - there is plenty of factories producing them and it is easy and cheaper to assemble a watch using cases and bracelets that are a plain copy of a rolex. What are you getting extra from Smiths that justify the extra payment in opposition to the Rolex copies/hommages available at Aliexpress/ebay/alibaba for less than 100usd? Very little, but in summary the next: - Packaging: Smiths delivers the watch in an extremely cheap packaging - u can appreciate this in the video - Quality of the case and bracelet: the same as the ones sold at Aliexpress for less than 100usd. - Watch glass: Smiths offers sapphire but the ones from Aliexpress too - no improvement here. - Movement: Smiths offers a Miyota 9015 movement (btw a good movement), the ones at Aliexpress tend to offer the next options Miyota 8215, Seiko NH36, seagull ST16 or a generic chinese 2813 (The last one being the worst option - but is also fitted into the very cheapest watches, at around 50usd). - Dial and hands: Smiths comes with a simple printed dial - this is the cheapest way to produce a dial - and very generic rolex hands. Some of the other chinese copies come with dials with applied markers - this is more expensive yet those watches are sold for far less than Smiths. - Customer service: Chinese sellers are not known for providing a good customer service, but here is the key, Aliexpress intercedes between you and the seller and if you have a complain or receive a damage/defective product... you are likely to receive a full or partial refund. In the case of Smiths watches.... you just need to check out this video and will understand the type of person behind Smiths and what he delivers as a "customer service". ua-cam.com/video/UfN4TLjsXPg/v-deo.html&lc=Ugw3F88zhYe8PNzz2Oh4AaABAg.9I09Cu91HeE9I3ejLKxCVy The last topic is brand heritage: Once a brand becomes abandoned by the owners - and this was the case of Smiths watches... Anybody can register and own the name by registering it again to himself --- this is the case of Smiths and many other brands (Ball watches, etc...). Timefactors has been importing batches of chinese watches and re-selling them to european customers since 1996... At some point the guy owning Timefactors realized he could re-register abandoned historical brands and he has done it several times... check Timefactors offerings, he not only offers Smiths but also other less known historical brands he has registered again---- the difference between the different brands he sells? only the brand logo he is requesting the chinese manufacturer to print on the dial. ----------- MAKE up your mind if you consider this kind of "heritage" deserves any additional value or payment.
Wow. A lot for people to take in there. Thanks for the taking the time and offering your opinion. I’ve not had any issues with the watch so I haven’t had to experience anything in the way of customer experience. However I have watched the video now and heard that some people have had issues with the owner. I can’t attest to this either way as I haven’t had to contact him. Thanks for the comment though. The ⏱👨⚕️
The heritage is still there becauae of the SMITHS name and this is regardless of your youtube novel or where the piece was made. Rolex is also suspect, with it's fairytale whispering in Hans Wilsdorf's ear nonsense story! I'll stick with my Smiths Mt. Everest story over the fairy talking in dudes ear! Sounds much like the fake azz Santa Claus nonsense story! 😂 This level of bamboozling sounds all too familiar! 😂 😂
@@fordhammie whatever makes you happy... keep doing it. Where you see heritage, I can only see 6 letters printed on a dial: S. M. I. T. H. S Hey Man! Have you noticed this? My posts have also heritage... they contain the same 6 letters and in the same order... Have my posts climbed the everest?
@@renaissance6745 someone sounds would up, it’s only a watch mate. I have my opinion based on what I’ve seen. The watch is a poor quality knock off made in China
@@TheFailedWatchmaker I understand people would base opinions on videos, if I was was to do the same, I’d be raving about this watch, as the majority of UA-cam videos do not address this concern. I’ve handled a one of the time factors watches and in my opinion the quality is poor.
Hi glad I found this channel
Hey. That’s great to hear. Thanks for the comment I really appreciate it. The⏱👨⚕️
The Smiths watch with the design closest to the original is still the "Everest Expedition". It has central seconds instead of small seconds, and it looks like the Smiths watch used by the members of the TransAntarctic Expedition a few years later. This expedition was an amazing feat, requiring collaboration between United Kingdom and New Zealand over several years, and the scientific research work performed along the way makes this expedition, in my view, at least as important as climbing the Everest for the first time. And the photos of the vehicles stuck on giant crevasses are terrifying. As a woman, it is not easy to find smaller watches that do not look overly "blingy". I think it will be my first automatic watch. Subscribed. Keep up the good work! :)
Thank you so much for that. That really made me smile and it’s great to know I’ve helped just one person make a decision about buying something. Thank you 😊. The ⏱👨⚕️
Also. Thanks for all that amazing information 👍
Correction: Rolex Exp is now a homage to the Smiths Everest! :)
I totally agree with you. I have both of them and I am pretty regret to buy the real one. There is no connection with Rolex however I love prs-25. It would be perfect watch if they could improve the clasp.
@@Leventgursoy11 I actually like the chunky clasp and have been looking for one on eBay. I have version one clasp, of which is excellent but I like the adj feature on your clasp. A trade? lol
@@fordhammie
Haha - you must be the only one that likes that shitty "chunky" clasp.
Go check to the forums where the people tells what they think of it.
If you really like them I think you can fill a bucket of them... you wont need much money to buy them all
Interesting debate on this. Still got mine and still like it a lot. The ⏱👨⚕️
I recently managed to snag one of these 40mm Eversts from a seller on Watchuseek and it's very quickly become my daily wearer. Really like the high domed sapphire crystal, good lume and the simplicity yet easy readability of the face and hands. Mine came on an aftermarket Engineer 2 bracelet but I'm currently rocking it on a Perlon strap, which really works well with it. Good review btw.
Thanks very much. Yes Perlon would be great actually. Might try that myself. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
Many thanks for an enjoyable and comprehensive review. Take care and stay safe.
Thank you very much. The same to you especially in these ridiculous times. Thanks for the comment and stay safe too. The ⏱👨⚕️
I have the 40mm as well. Fantastic watch. Missed a couple of the ordering rounds and finally snagged one about 6 months ago. As you commented, it is chunky, a very substantial time piece. Wish the bracelet was a little smaller at the clasp. I tend to take it off if I am going to be orking on the computer. I love it.
Yes the bracelet is it’s biggest letdown. Still enjoy it though not sure I could wear much smaller than the 40mm. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
I really enjoyed your review of the Smiths 40mm PRS-25 Everest and have subscribed. Interestingly, I was drawn to the Smiths watches because of the 36mm option. There are many watches on the market that are 40-45mm. I have since acquired a Smiths Everest, cream face 36mm and the latest Smiths PRS-47 with the Tropical dial and love them both, great watches. They now come with a much improved bracelet. However, I have found that the accuracy of the Miyota movements are not as good as the Sellita or ETA Movements that I have in my TAG and Christopher Ward watches. Also, I would be hesitant to swim with these watches.
Kind Regards
Yes I think I would be careful with swimming with it too. I’ve seen the ones you’re talking about. Great choices both of them. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
@@thewatchdoctor A pleasure. I enjoy your watch channel. Keep up the good work and all the best for 2022.
I own one and I like everything about this time piece, including that awesome beefy clasp....
Yes I haven’t found it too bad at all to be honest. Awesome watch. I love it. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
Does it come in a white dial?
I believe so. It’s been a while since I looked on their site. Check them out. The⏱👨⚕️
Can never get one of these smiths prs25, always sold out,very frustrating. Why he does not allow you to order and prepay for one like Lorier does is a mystery to me.😢
Im looking for the 40mm version.
Yes both are fantastic options and I suppose it just comes down to wrist size and personal taste. The ⏱👨⚕️
I want one
Fully recommend them yes. The ⏱👨⚕️
Great review. I just got the latest version of the 36mm, and absolutely love it. I have to agree with you that this is the closest to the one watch collection that I own. I do have a lot of watches including Seiko SARBs & SKXs, Borealis, Nodus, Casio, and others. Each watch has its own appeal, but this Smiths stands out from all the others. Build quality, specs, and wrist presence are outstanding. I won't spend 10K for a watch, so this may be my grail watch. Looking forward to more reviews. Thanks
I’m with you there. I wouldn’t be able to afford a 10K watch either. But why would anybody need to when there are such great sub £500 watches out there?! The fact that Eddie is literally re-inventing these fantastic brands from his garage in Sheffield is amazing I think
I have also 40mm version. No doubt, it is great watch. However I could not understand Timefactor business structure. Watches are always sold out. If one they decide to be supported by a business development professional, the can understand the potential of the market. Nowadays easy to find 1016 explorer by 15000eu but impossible to find Smiths everest.
I’ve got to be honest, I keep scratching my head about this too. Not a good model at all. Obviously people want them, but no access to them. You’re right, it’s like getting hold of a 1960s Rolex yes. 😂. The ⏱👨⚕️
i wish the 369 font can be more rounded and wider, less of modern computer font that is, that would be perfect... nice watch nonetheless
Yes I agree read the numerals. Maybe they thought it was sailing too close to a copy of the Explorer who knows? Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
Homage is another way of saying knockoff.
I don’t agree. My take is that a fake is a knockoff. An homage pays tribute to styles and influences from other pieces. Think of it as an up to date remake. You might not like the remake and that’s your choice entirely. But it isn’t pretending to be something it isn’t, which a “knock off” does. Thanks for the comment. The ⏱👨⚕️
For it to be a knock off,it would have to be trying to pass itself as a Rolex
And it's not.
@@deanwaller8283 I disagree. That looks exactly like a Rolex. The only difference between the design of that watch and an Explorer is the name. It is a knockoff. Putting a different name on it and calling it a homage is only a legal loophole. It's a knockoff. Is it impossible for Smiths to design something original? Apparently.
@@bettersteps Ok so that would suggest that you're a knockoff of the next person because you have features just like the next human being! 😂
@@fordhammie Not sure how we went from discussing the design of a watch, an inanimate object, to a living organism. That's quite a jump. No one designed me. I Am. No one is like me. I am not mass produced. I did not begin my life as an idea and a sketch. There is no pre-production version of me. Not the best way to prove a point Rodriguez. It only proves you're unable to prove any point. Try again.
Smiths watches are nothing more than a watch made 100% in china with chinese generic parts. This is what you are buying if you go ahead.
Why a Rolex homage? because the chinese have been making rolex copies for decades - there is plenty of factories producing them and it is easy and cheaper to assemble a watch using cases and bracelets that are a plain copy of a rolex.
What are you getting extra from Smiths that justify the extra payment in opposition to the Rolex copies/hommages available at Aliexpress/ebay/alibaba for less than 100usd? Very little, but in summary the next:
- Packaging: Smiths delivers the watch in an extremely cheap packaging - u can appreciate this in the video
- Quality of the case and bracelet: the same as the ones sold at Aliexpress for less than 100usd.
- Watch glass: Smiths offers sapphire but the ones from Aliexpress too - no improvement here.
- Movement: Smiths offers a Miyota 9015 movement (btw a good movement), the ones at Aliexpress tend to offer the next options Miyota 8215, Seiko NH36, seagull ST16 or a generic chinese 2813 (The last one being the worst option - but is also fitted into the very cheapest watches, at around 50usd).
- Dial and hands: Smiths comes with a simple printed dial - this is the cheapest way to produce a dial - and very generic rolex hands. Some of the other chinese copies come with dials with applied markers - this is more expensive yet those watches are sold for far less than Smiths.
- Customer service: Chinese sellers are not known for providing a good customer service, but here is the key, Aliexpress intercedes between you and the seller and if you have a complain or receive a damage/defective product... you are likely to receive a full or partial refund. In the case of Smiths watches.... you just need to check out this video and will understand the type of person behind Smiths and what he delivers as a "customer service". ua-cam.com/video/UfN4TLjsXPg/v-deo.html&lc=Ugw3F88zhYe8PNzz2Oh4AaABAg.9I09Cu91HeE9I3ejLKxCVy
The last topic is brand heritage: Once a brand becomes abandoned by the owners - and this was the case of Smiths watches... Anybody can register and own the name by registering it again to himself --- this is the case of Smiths and many other brands (Ball watches, etc...). Timefactors has been importing batches of chinese watches and re-selling them to european customers since 1996... At some point the guy owning Timefactors realized he could re-register abandoned historical brands and he has done it several times... check Timefactors offerings, he not only offers Smiths but also other less known historical brands he has registered again---- the difference between the different brands he sells? only the brand logo he is requesting the chinese manufacturer to print on the dial. ----------- MAKE up your mind if you consider this kind of "heritage" deserves any additional value or payment.
Wow. A lot for people to take in there. Thanks for the taking the time and offering your opinion. I’ve not had any issues with the watch so I haven’t had to experience anything in the way of customer experience. However I have watched the video now and heard that some people have had issues with the owner. I can’t attest to this either way as I haven’t had to contact him. Thanks for the comment though. The ⏱👨⚕️
The heritage is still there becauae of the SMITHS name and this is regardless of your youtube novel or where the piece was made. Rolex is also suspect, with it's fairytale whispering in Hans Wilsdorf's ear nonsense story! I'll stick with my Smiths Mt. Everest story over the fairy talking in dudes ear! Sounds much like the fake azz Santa Claus nonsense story! 😂 This level of bamboozling sounds all too familiar! 😂 😂
It's a smiths wether you like it or not,
Hamilton is owned by the search group,are they fake Hamilton?
Jog on.
@@fordhammie whatever makes you happy... keep doing it.
Where you see heritage, I can only see 6 letters printed on a dial: S. M. I. T. H. S
Hey Man! Have you noticed this? My posts have also heritage... they contain the same 6 letters and in the same order... Have my posts climbed the everest?
Poor quality, ruining the smiths name
DON'T BE STUPID
@@renaissance6745 someone sounds would up, it’s only a watch mate. I have my opinion based on what I’ve seen. The watch is a poor quality knock off made in China
And are you basing your opinion only on videos you’ve seen or first hand experience?
@@TheFailedWatchmaker I understand people would base opinions on videos, if I was was to do the same, I’d be raving about this watch, as the majority of UA-cam videos do not address this concern. I’ve handled a one of the time factors watches and in my opinion the quality is poor.
@@SH__- well then you're in the tiny minority son,these things fly out of the store and actually appreciate,
Thanks for stopping by though 🤣🤣🤣🤣