Love your reviews man, although I don’t really stick around for the music reccos. But dub be good to me is a phenomenal tune! I’m a ‘79 kid. This was the 1st CD in my house. Totally agree it’s still as good today as it was coming out. Great shout out.
Totaly agree with you! I have this shoe and love it. My 10k and HM PB is with this shoe. Done about 85km in my pair now. They are still holding up nice. (to be a race shoe)
@@EDDBUD I think it`s hard to say. I think they still feel pretty much the same. There is always a different feeling from race to race. But I think that`s more to about how I feel and how prepared I am rather than the shoes changing. Now I just hope ON will release the CloudTri soon. We have the Cloodboom Echo 3 for 5k 10k and HM. But we need a better softer option for the full 42km. We know Hellen Obiri won Boston in the Cloudtri.
EddBudd is the MAN in shoe reviews. Started watching a few years now and I trust your expert opinions. It’s always great to see a fellow Brit making moves here on UA-cam. Keep up the great stuff!
In Australia this is actually the same price as most of those shoes you mentioned ($380 AU). Still ridiculous but yeah... The Adidas Strung 2 is $450. That's like used car kind of money.
Costs $390 RRP here in Australia. Hmm, $330 for the Vaporfly 3! ($370 for the Alphafly 2). Only the Saucony Endorphin Elite is more expensive at their newly increased price of $400 (was $380)! Thanks for the review Edd. I'll pass on this one. Aesthetically it does look very good.
It’s a very quick shoe - ran a HM and it felt great though more ground feel than most supershoes which I don’t mind - calves were very sore the next day so I agree with you I don’t think I’d do a marathon in it
The price is the biggest draw back to this shoe and the reason I wouldn’t even consider picking this shoe up. I can’t believe it’s that much better if at all better then the vaporfly 3, adidas pro 3 , metaspeed sky plus , endorphin pro 3 all of then much cheaper some of of them you can get for £100 cheaper Plus the ONs are also not much cheaper the alphafly a or endorphin elites (both also over priced I’ve not tried the elites tho ) I think it’s one of theses shoes for ON enthusiasts only
Was able to try this on last month and really was impressed because I don't have a strong opinion of the brand, I would absolutely race in it except for the durability and price. Even though I like it, would I buy it for $290USD, when I could get another Adios Pro or PXS (now that they're on sale) for less? I dunno
EDD! You're not fooling anyone on why you like this shoe so much. Tell me I'm wrong! It's that giant logo on the shoe that looks like a toggle switch found on electric guitars. The one that controls which pickup to use because each one sounds different. How can you not like something that molds together the two greatest creations man ever made. The electric guitar and the modern day running shoe.👟+❤ 🎸+❤
Nice to see ON making a proper go at a fast shoe. It’s good that they’re upfront about longevity. The other brands absolutely avoid the subject. On the flip side, I’m finding these super shoes environmentally pretty bad when they fall apart or get punctures at 200miles. I guess if you look at them as pure racing shoes, it’s less bad but A LOT of people buy them and landfill them.
it's always interesting to see a lifestyle shoe company try hard to make real running shoes. I know On started by marketing themselves as a "running shoe", but runners who tried them showed that to be wrong. Because of their origins, they have to go all-out to make a shoe that will gain them a rep among real runners, so the shoes can exceed offerings by established companies.
This shoe’s got a bad rap. I applaud you for the effort of getting a pair for review…at least you got them for free. No one would be in their right mind to pay for the outrageous price tag.
I have worn various On shoes through the years and they are outstanding in many senses, but NEVER in the durability department. Their uppers are relatively fragile and their rubber, while sticky, wears like warm butter. For the price, you tend to expect more, but then again, On is pretty much an acquired taste.
Hmmm….so 4 marathons = 8 HM’s at least. I’m a big fan of the Cloudsurfer currently but agree the outsole durability is disappointing though mostly in just one place for me. I simply need to find a shoe repair person who can add rubber to the lateral patches an inch or so forward from the heel where I (and most people) first see wear on their soles. I find the ON uppers to be premium and durable but I’ve only had a couple of models. Nothing came close to the Cloudsurfer and I’m glad they’re pivoting from their longstanding but controversial original features.
On is one of the worse company's out there. I bought a set of the On-Running Water Proof 2 and the sole has gone flat. I can feel all of the rocks and bumps on the road. and when I ask them to fix my shoes under a warranty (4 months of ownership) they told me to kick rocks. The Olympic champion didn't wear "On" shows. Avoid these shows.... the company is trash!
[My UA-cam channel provides free coaching videos for runners] Great review Edd - really been looking forward to your thoughts and really insightful. This shoe is totally on my radar now. Nice work. I think you are on for 100k subscribers mate. Wish I remembered my subscriber number, think about was about 12k mark. Keep rolling brother.
@@EDDBUD no but I'm going off you review scores I think you should have lowered the scores on durability and price to 2.4 but like I said I've never tried the shoe. Anyway I enjoy your reviews. Thankyou
@@danielaliaga4800don't know about the durability, as Ed says... it's a race shoe, doesn't mean the shoe is dead and can't be used after 4 marathons, it's basically saying it's in premium condition over 4 marathons, which is a pretty good claim. We might look at that as a ridiculous claim in respect to poor longevity, whilst Kipchoge will look at it as a ridiculous claim because he only gets 1 out of his Nike's... We've nothing to compare the claim to.
Nice to see ON making a proper go at a fast shoe. It’s good that they’re upfront about longevity. The other brands absolutely avoid the subject. On the flip side, I’m finding these super shoes environmentally pretty bad when they fall apart or get punctures at 200miles. I guess if you look at them as pure racing shoes, it’s less bad but A LOT of people buy them and landfill them.
Love your reviews man, although I don’t really stick around for the music reccos. But dub be good to me is a phenomenal tune! I’m a ‘79 kid. This was the 1st CD in my house. Totally agree it’s still as good today as it was coming out. Great shout out.
Classic tune. So many good tracks from that period have stood the test of time.
Totaly agree with you! I have this shoe and love it.
My 10k and HM PB is with this shoe.
Done about 85km in my pair now. They are still holding up nice. (to be a race shoe)
It’s a bit more forgiving now with a few miles on the clock.
@@EDDBUD I think it`s hard to say. I think they still feel pretty much the same. There is always a different feeling from race to race. But I think that`s more to about how I feel and how prepared I am rather than the shoes changing.
Now I just hope ON will release the CloudTri soon. We have the Cloodboom Echo 3 for 5k 10k and HM. But we need a better softer option for the full 42km. We know Hellen Obiri won Boston in the Cloudtri.
EddBudd is the MAN in shoe reviews. Started watching a few years now and I trust your expert opinions. It’s always great to see a fellow Brit making moves here on UA-cam. Keep up the great stuff!
I appreciate that!
In Australia this is actually the same price as most of those shoes you mentioned ($380 AU). Still ridiculous but yeah...
The Adidas Strung 2 is $450. That's like used car kind of money.
Why so expensive over there? Crazy money for what these type of shoes are.
I really like your shirt!💖
Thanks!
As always, thanks for the review
My pleasure!
Great review Ed, regrettably my hobbit like feet aren’t fitting in these. Good to know, saves me making the effort of trying.
It’s a glove. Opposite to that primex 2 I reviewed the other day. 🤦🏻♂️👍🏼🤣
If your schedules line up, I’d love to see on you Kofuzi’s show discussing the PrimeX 2.0 Strung, and other recent releases.
Would be fun!
Costs $390 RRP here in Australia. Hmm, $330 for the Vaporfly 3! ($370 for the Alphafly 2). Only the Saucony Endorphin Elite is more expensive at their newly increased price of $400 (was $380)! Thanks for the review Edd. I'll pass on this one. Aesthetically it does look very good.
Yeah it needs some adjustment on the price
Thanks for another great review Edd! I will have to take your word on the smell right out of the box - I am too worried about sniffing the chemicals 🤢
It seems harmless enough. Says the man who sniff guitars on a regular basis.
I’d be more worried about smelling the shoes after Edd’s gone out for his long run!😮 Otherwise, yes, great review as always.
It’s a very quick shoe - ran a HM and it felt great though more ground feel than most supershoes which I don’t mind - calves were very sore the next day so I agree with you I don’t think I’d do a marathon in it
Yes it’s good for the 13.1 but needs more compression for most runners for a full marathon
The price is the biggest draw back to this shoe and the reason I wouldn’t even consider picking this shoe up.
I can’t believe it’s that much better if at all better then the vaporfly 3, adidas pro 3 , metaspeed sky plus , endorphin pro 3 all of then much cheaper some of of them you can get for £100 cheaper
Plus the ONs are also not much cheaper the alphafly a or endorphin elites (both also over priced I’ve not tried the elites tho )
I think it’s one of theses shoes for ON enthusiasts only
It’s quite high in price. Though I do think they are on to something. No pun intended.
I couldn’t agree more
Might be a nice 100 meter shoe for me.
You reckon it can handle that mileage before breaking down?
Hahaha
Hi eddbud 👋, sounds like you could smash a 5 -10 or half pb in this shoe ed I hope you do it 👍👍👍
Yes it works for me Alan. But the price is a bit too high
Was able to try this on last month and really was impressed because I don't have a strong opinion of the brand, I would absolutely race in it except for the durability and price. Even though I like it, would I buy it for $290USD, when I could get another Adios Pro or PXS (now that they're on sale) for less? I dunno
Yes the price is the only thing that needs adjustment.
Certainly sounds like a good shoe but I'm not paying full price for it!
Yeah it’s a bit too excessive. Bound to come
Down a little soon
Only the most onest opinions from this channel.
No honest opinions. I love the shoe just too costly which is exactly what I said.
I don’t really sniff my running shoes, but I have a pair of leather Mizuuno footballs that I’ve only worn in one game and they smell incredible. 😅
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dope .. cheers from Los Angeles 🫰
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EDD! You're not fooling anyone on why you like this shoe so much. Tell me I'm wrong! It's that giant logo on the shoe that looks like a toggle switch found on electric guitars. The one that controls which pickup to use because each one sounds different. How can you not like something that molds together the two greatest creations man ever made. The electric guitar and the modern day running shoe.👟+❤ 🎸+❤
It does look like a side on view of a toggle switch. You have found me out. 🤣👍🏼
Nice to see ON making a proper go at a fast shoe. It’s good that they’re upfront about longevity. The other brands absolutely avoid the subject. On the flip side, I’m finding these super shoes environmentally pretty bad when they fall apart or get punctures at 200miles. I guess if you look at them as pure racing shoes, it’s less bad but A LOT of people buy them and landfill them.
Where can I get the shirt 🔥
I think my wife got it for me at an Asics outlet a while back.
it's always interesting to see a lifestyle shoe company try hard to make real running shoes. I know On started by marketing themselves as a "running shoe", but runners who tried them showed that to be wrong. Because of their origins, they have to go all-out to make a shoe that will gain them a rep among real runners, so the shoes can exceed offerings by established companies.
It’s a good running shoe.
When I was a teenager, I would look at and smell my new Air Max and Jordan's 😂 been 44 years old, we didn't have Internet 😅
Yes I did a similar thing back in 1990. 🤣👍🏼
ヴェイパーフライ2とクラウドムーブエコー3を比べるとどちらの方が反発がありますか？
The Vaporfly 2 is more aggressive a shoe than the very narrow on model
Nice!
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Sniff tests are now mandatory sir
Have more new shoes in the house. Will ensure I get a sniff in.
It looks really pretty in an old-school way.
Sometimes that’s the best thing
It is On's best shoe I'll maybe give you that but it can't be a Vaporfly killer at that $300.00 price.
Yes I agree it’s their best. But too costly
This shoe’s got a bad rap. I applaud you for the effort of getting a pair for review…at least you got them for free. No one would be in their right mind to pay for the outrageous price tag.
I think loads of super shoes are the same. They are just being honest!
Tried it at ON's flagshipstore and i really liked it. Bit this swiss engineered shoe is actually nowhere as expensive as in switzerland😅 (360chf)
Roughly what is the price difference?
@@EDDBUDthats 324gbp
@@EDDBUD€376,- or £323,-
I have worn various On shoes through the years and they are outstanding in many senses, but NEVER in the durability department. Their uppers are relatively fragile and their rubber, while sticky, wears like warm butter. For the price, you tend to expect more, but then again, On is pretty much an acquired taste.
for that price and weight? maybe not. but looks like a shoe if you want to try something new😉😉😉😉
It’s a good weight for a race shoe. Perfect in fact. Lower than Adios pro 3, Hoka rocket x 2, alphafly!
If it surpasses the alphafly 2 then I think the price is ridiculous
It’s cheaper than the alphafly 2
I’d feel bad wearing these on a marathon…and seeing people wearing kinvaras, ghosts or pegasus passing me by…with ease.🤦🏻♂️🤣😂
Why would they pass you with ease in a really fast shoe? No issue for lighter runners here with this foam
@@EDDBUD It was a reminder to myself that the training makes the runner faster, more than the shoes. But, whatever works man! ✌🏻
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I was ready for this @@EDDBUDtick tick tick cloud boom
Hmmm….so 4 marathons = 8 HM’s at least. I’m a big fan of the Cloudsurfer currently but agree the outsole durability is disappointing though mostly in just one place for me. I simply need to find a shoe repair person who can add rubber to the lateral patches an inch or so forward from the heel where I (and most people) first see wear on their soles. I find the ON uppers to be premium and durable but I’ve only had a couple of models. Nothing came close to the Cloudsurfer and I’m glad they’re pivoting from their longstanding but controversial original features.
The upper is superb on this one. Though I’ve got lateral heel wear already.
September and still hot?! 🥵thats pretty concerning.
Yes it was 32c in my office yesterday
Calling them CBE 3 sounds soooo much better. Almost give it star wars powers
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These r amazing… but they r so .. expensive….
Yes all the top super shoes are sadly
Running The Big Dipper Half Marathon tomorrow 🎢 🥵
I might end up looking like I've spent too much time under the sunbed ✋🏼
If only you knew someone was some cheap sun tan lotion! Remember to take your car phone. You do have one don’t you?
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@@Stevenc1984 Legendary episode.
No thx! I’ve owned one pair of Clouds and I won’t even use them to mow the grass in them
Not much of the cloud stuff here. It’s pebax all the way
oh my that is a narrow looking shoe
Yes it’s one for the ski feet
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Ooooooh it's pricey...looks so damned skinny shoe goodness!
Yes it’s a slipper really. But grippy.
On is one of the worse company's out there.
I bought a set of the On-Running Water Proof 2 and the sole has gone flat. I can feel all of the rocks and bumps on the road. and when I ask them to fix my shoes under a warranty (4 months of ownership) they told me to kick rocks.
The Olympic champion didn't wear "On" shows.
Avoid these shows.... the company is trash!
I have tried some of their models. The cloud eclipse is a great shoe as is the cloud boom echo 3.
[My UA-cam channel provides free coaching videos for runners] Great review Edd - really been looking forward to your thoughts and really insightful. This shoe is totally on my radar now. Nice work. I think you are on for 100k subscribers mate. Wish I remembered my subscriber number, think about was about 12k mark. Keep rolling brother.
I like this shoe. Close to a sen really. But reminds me of the Vaporfly 4%
You went to easy on them, its way overpriced and the durability is crap
I said they are overpriced and also mentioned the durability. Have you worn the shoe?
@@EDDBUD no but I'm going off you review scores I think you should have lowered the scores on durability and price to 2.4 but like I said I've never tried the shoe. Anyway I enjoy your reviews. Thankyou
@@danielaliaga4800 It’s a race shoe really as such they never last all that long.
@@danielaliaga4800don't know about the durability, as Ed says... it's a race shoe, doesn't mean the shoe is dead and can't be used after 4 marathons, it's basically saying it's in premium condition over 4 marathons, which is a pretty good claim.
We might look at that as a ridiculous claim in respect to poor longevity, whilst Kipchoge will look at it as a ridiculous claim because he only gets 1 out of his Nike's...
We've nothing to compare the claim to.
Nice to see ON making a proper go at a fast shoe. It’s good that they’re upfront about longevity. The other brands absolutely avoid the subject. On the flip side, I’m finding these super shoes environmentally pretty bad when they fall apart or get punctures at 200miles. I guess if you look at them as pure racing shoes, it’s less bad but A LOT of people buy them and landfill them.
I agree on the eco impact. These are quick. Though I had the 100 mile thing in mind and have used them for more premium sessions.
So much respect for On for stating the truth about shoe performance lifespan. Hopefully the trend catches on...