ON are prohibitively expensive in my corner of the EU. A mate of mine who lives in the states was shocked at the asking price here. They are regularly available there with killer discounts and the brand has become super popular for casual wear.
Thanks for the fair review Edd. I bought the Cloudsurfer 7 on a 40% discount on the basis of a plethora of positive reviews. I was underwhelmed after running in them. I felt duped. There are a lot of other running shoes that are much cheaper and much better. Of course some shoes work for other people and not for yourself but really we are talking about an old school EVA midsole foam with holes in it! So many of these type of EVA foams can work well for a short period and feel fantastic and then bottom out (lose their mojo). The On brand is being marketed as a premium brand with a premium price but in my estimation when it comes to performance falls short.
I feel ON is just one of those very hyped and trendy brands that is a LOT more about fashion than actual sports performance. I had to laugh when the world number one woman Tennis player Swiatek who is sponsored by ON played in Asics shoes for the French Open final because the ON shoes she was provided with were so crap 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Of course she had to come out and do damage control afterwards by saying it was just because ON is "making the ultimate tennis shoes" and they just are not ready yet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Athletes will spin any old BS because a brand is paying them a LOT of money.
@@Sabundy Haha ... yes and maybe Kelvin Kiptum is doing the same regarding the Chinese shoe manufacturer he had a contract with when he wore the Nike Vaporflys instead of their shoe to win the London marathon! An athlete knows when a shoe is rubbish.
The only ON shoe I used was the cloudsurfer..it was great for the 1st 40-50mi then the forefoot cushioning went flat..I can use it as a walking around shoe but it's totally dead as a running shoe..about like a vaporfly durability in the longevity of the foam..won't be trying any other ON shoes..but a nice surprise from Hoka rocket x2..not only is the foam doing great it also has been my fastest shoe of the season and put the alphafly V1 on the bench..😊😊
ON has its big win in the Cloudsurfer. It’s my alternate LR shoe to the NovaBlast3, and a superb recovery shoe as well. And I can report that it’s holding up well in all respects.
Interesting revoo as usual Edd. These On midsoles though always look to me like an off brand shot at an 'air' window that one used to find in the 80's, like a pair of rubbish British knights or Troop trainers. I could go much, much further, but they gave you a pair, so I'll lay awft! The fact they recognise a good reviewer is kudos to them. 👍
Actually, it can help a lot to decipate heat away from our feet if you run in high 30°C plus places . But the opposite might not be a problem since I did not see any youtuber complaints about ON shoes being too cold to be used at winter of very cold places.
Thank you for this review! I love their Cloudstratus 2 but my soles are now balder than a chavs tyres...they tend to wear pretty hard after 200 plus miles. I'm retiring them at the end of the year...
A diplomatic review Ed. Just don't buy this shoe if its too hot, you don't want the laces to cut into your foot, you want predictability in your stride, you want to maintain financial stability... Think I'll give it a miss! This is what reviews are for. 👍
My cross country/track running son just picked up the on cloud surfer and he raves about them for daily easier base miles. I bought myself a pair and am waiting for them to come in the mail.
Cloudsurfer 7 is an absolute beast, light, nimble, forgiving, upper is super comfy, midsole is fantastic. However, all the other ON shoes I tried were horrible or mediocre at best.
@@EDDBUD The Echo 3? No, I was afraid I might like it after the CS7 :D $289.99 is just ridiculous. Got the Rocket x2 instead, it is the cat's meow - to be in harmony with the channel.
I have 2 runs in the on cloudboom echo 3 and I love them I can't say that they are good for a marathon but for 5k and 10k they perfect. They remind my my of Takumi sen 8 in terms of firmness of the midsole. Yes they are expensive but for me works better they any other super shoes on the market. Because they have this Pebax foam they are nothing like other on shoes this ones are my first pair. I don't really understand why some many reviewers said a lot of bad things about the shoe. For me Takumi sen 8 is from my point of view the best shoes ever made so far and this one from On comes along but in terms of mony and value I will stick with Takumi, I use the On shoe by doing intervals. I was more curious to see how the shoes are and I am glad I did they are a delicious treat.
Thanks Ed. The cynic in me thinks that this brand was created to break into a very competitive premium end of the running shoe market and the 'cloud technology' was dreamt up to differentiate it, not because it works any better than a traditional foam midsole. Their latest performance shoe seems to pretty much do away with the holes! Maybe this is a nice premium leisure shoe, that you can run in?
Few comments after running on other ON, including the v1 of the Cloudstratus. ON shoes are hard and they require long breaking periods, then they become a bit softer. Not Endorphin soft, but softer. Quality is superb. Durability, phenomenal. But I still cannot run on these, too harsh. Perhaps this v3 proves me wrong. The Cloudsurfer seems to be better in that regard as they removed the useless speedboard. That said, I retired my v1 after 300 kilometres and used them as walking shoes. For that they are very good and comfortable. But this experience is largely based on v1.
I’m still not seeing a lot of ON shoes out on the roads. However it does appear that a lot of people in the healthcare field are replacing their Hoka Cliftons and Bondis with this shoe.
It'll be interesting to see if On move away from the Cloud style midsoles. It seems like their USP could be the thing that is holding them back. I bought a consignment of fire damaged industrial smoke alarms yesterday, do you know any businesses that are going to catch fire? 🔥
I have an original pair in black and after 100 miles there is no wear to the exposed foam. Use them for daily out and about wear walking the dog as I am on a pair of Nike wild horse 8 for my trail/grass field runs.
Genuine question: does anyone actually think On make good shoes for running? I live in Zürich, so they have huge market share here due to Swiss loyalty, Roger Federer's involvement, sponsorships etc. I see way more people wearing them casually than running on the roads/trails. It just seems that the midsole design is sketchy - not very durable, adds no significant improvement over competitors' shoes and are really high priced. I think their apparel looks great but seems their shoes have a way to go to be any good/value for money.
Good morning Edd, I have the Cloudstratus 2 and would agree with your verdict but for different reasons. The upper fits my wider foot very well and it doesn´t feel too warm to me. But I don´t really have made up my mind about the midsole. To me the landings feel firm (forefoot striker) and I don´t get much energy back but the outsole/midsole feels grippy and well damped without being unstable. The ride feels kind of unremarkable if reliable. Here in Germany we have to pay 180 € for the old version (startin price) and 190 € for version 3. To me that is outrageously overpriced but still, the shoe is not that bad that I would want to send it back. On paper (pun alarm) the Superblast should be miles ahead of this one but it (my sample) gives me pain in the achilles tendon (way too soft). I´m curious about your take on the Cloudsurfer. I didn´t order this one because the reviews say that the fit in the forefoot would be alot narrower. Bring it On, Edd :)
Hi, love your channel!!! So I'm just getting into running(extremely fit and capable) and watched about 50 hours of different videos on high performance shoes:) I'm not really exaggerating...😬 Here's my list I'm wanting a shoe that does everything REALLY WELL if possible. Also I have taken up sprinting for about 50 yards so I'm also wanting a non spiked shoe to do 50 yard HIT training.. Any and all suggestions welcome. One shoe to rule them all would be great, But if I really am needing two shoes to do both short distance running and sprinting that is fine. Doesn't matter about the budget. I just want what makes the best sense, But it would be nice if one shoe like the SUPERBLAST might do both really well.. Thoughts ??? -ASICS NIMBUS 25 -ASICS SUPER BLAST -Puma DEVIATE NITRO elite 2 -HOKA MACH 5😊 -Nike Pegasus turbo SE -NIKE PEGASUS 39
Still feel the Cloud Surfer 7 is still the only On shoe worth buying. Cloud Boom Echo 3 is a good shoe but no better than the other super shoes out there, I love their apparel but I'm not a fan of the shoes barring the one already mentioned.
I'm thinking of either getting the nike streakfly or the addidas adios 8 for my cross country races. Which of these 2 would you recommend. (Courses consist of mostly dirt, crass and hills)
Cross country? If you mean uk cross the mud and wet won’t work with the steakfly. For dry conditions the streakfly is much lighter than the Adios 8. More compressive.
I land on the balls of my foot running slow, fast, or just walking, and I can tell you first-hand drop doesn't matter. It comes down more to having a level platform and having the same amount of cushion from heel to toe to make the ride feel as natural as possible. A wider forefoot/ toebox helps too for better stability because you're using less foot and weight to land. Forefoot strikers are landing on that flexable part of the foot, so having some flexability where your foot flexes helps for that smooth transition onto your toes. A late stage rocker like a toe rocker is ok as long as it starts after the point of your landing. Myself speaking, I have no problem landing forefoot on the 9mm drop of the Nike Invincible 2 or the 10 mm drop of Puma Volocity 2. The 5mm drop of the Hoka Mach 5 makes me land midfoot where the 5mm drop of the Topo Cyclone 2 is perfect. If you don't mind ground feel and a mild arch and dont overly pronate, the Cyclone 2 is great and works best for me as a forefoot striker.
Oh, Nike has made more $ from lifestyle shoes for decades! But they still have a few gems in racing shoes. I can't think of one ON that I would actually run in. A friend's local running store had a visit from a very persuasive ON rep and was gushing about ON for a few weeks, until she had some miles in the shoes, and customers were bringing them back.
On is a completely over hyped “shoe of the moment”. Most who buy don’t even run and is simply a lifestyle shoe. There is nothing soft or cloud like about any of these compared to it’s competitors.
Cant knock them until you try them. Cloudmonster, Cloudsurfer and this new Cloudstratus are great, don’t bother with the others. On have some winners now for any runner
[My UA-cam channel provides free coaching videos for runners] Great review Edd, and appreciated. It wasn't that long ago I didn't really know On existed, but now, they have my attention and consideration for sure. Have a couple of On's on my "to buy" list.
ON are prohibitively expensive in my corner of the EU. A mate of mine who lives in the states was shocked at the asking price here. They are regularly available there with killer discounts and the brand has become super popular for casual wear.
That’s the thing. In the uk they are becoming a big fashion and lifestyle choice brand.
Thanks for the fair review Edd. I bought the Cloudsurfer 7 on a 40% discount on the basis of a plethora of positive reviews. I was underwhelmed after running in them. I felt duped. There are a lot of other running shoes that are much cheaper and much better. Of course some shoes work for other people and not for yourself but really we are talking about an old school EVA midsole foam with holes in it! So many of these type of EVA foams can work well for a short period and feel fantastic and then bottom out (lose their mojo). The On brand is being marketed as a premium brand with a premium price but in my estimation when it comes to performance falls short.
I feel ON is just one of those very hyped and trendy brands that is a LOT more about fashion than actual sports performance. I had to laugh when the world number one woman Tennis player Swiatek who is sponsored by ON played in Asics shoes for the French Open final because the ON shoes she was provided with were so crap 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Of course she had to come out and do damage control afterwards by saying it was just because ON is "making the ultimate tennis shoes" and they just are not ready yet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Athletes will spin any old BS because a brand is paying them a LOT of money.
It’s a nice shoe but it has some areas that can be improved.
@@Sabundy Haha ... yes and maybe Kelvin Kiptum is doing the same regarding the Chinese shoe manufacturer he had a contract with when he wore the Nike Vaporflys instead of their shoe to win the London marathon! An athlete knows when a shoe is rubbish.
The only ON shoe I used was the cloudsurfer..it was great for the 1st 40-50mi then the forefoot cushioning went flat..I can use it as a walking around shoe but it's totally dead as a running shoe..about like a vaporfly durability in the longevity of the foam..won't be trying any other ON shoes..but a nice surprise from Hoka rocket x2..not only is the foam doing great it also has been my fastest shoe of the season and put the alphafly V1 on the bench..😊😊
Love the rocket. It’s a really great shoe
ON has its big win in the Cloudsurfer. It’s my alternate LR shoe to the NovaBlast3, and a superb recovery shoe as well. And I can report that it’s holding up well in all respects.
Keen to try that one out
Interesting revoo as usual Edd. These On midsoles though always look to me like an off brand shot at an 'air' window that one used to find in the 80's, like a pair of rubbish British knights or Troop trainers. I could go much, much further, but they gave you a pair, so I'll lay awft! The fact they recognise a good reviewer is kudos to them. 👍
Troop. Now that’s back to my youth of salivating over technics 1200 in hip hop connection magazine
Liking the new style of the videos with the running footage and arty shots of the shoes. 👍
Always did the arty shoes. But get out a bit more with the camera. Need the GoPro stick to protect me round here
On shoes are the only shoes where the midsole is "breathable"
Actually, it can help a lot to decipate heat away from our feet if you run in high 30°C plus places . But the opposite might not be a problem since I did not see any youtuber complaints about ON shoes being too cold to be used at winter of very cold places.
The Cloud surfer 7 is excellent, versatile and light.
That’s got a different approach going on by the looks of it
Thank you for this review! I love their Cloudstratus 2 but my soles are now balder than a chavs tyres...they tend to wear pretty hard after 200 plus miles. I'm retiring them at the end of the year...
The tyres comment had me 🤣
Chavs tyres 😂made me chuckle 🤭
A diplomatic review Ed. Just don't buy this shoe if its too hot, you don't want the laces to cut into your foot, you want predictability in your stride, you want to maintain financial stability... Think I'll give it a miss! This is what reviews are for. 👍
Gotta present the pros and cons
My cross country/track running son just picked up the on cloud surfer and he raves about them for daily easier base miles. I bought myself a pair and am waiting for them to come in the mail.
A good daily shoe is worth it’s weight in gold
Cloudsurfer 7 is an absolute beast, light, nimble, forgiving, upper is super comfy, midsole is fantastic. However, all the other ON shoes I tried were horrible or mediocre at best.
Interesting. Have you tried the race shoe the cloud boom?
@@EDDBUD The Echo 3? No, I was afraid I might like it after the CS7 :D $289.99 is just ridiculous. Got the Rocket x2 instead, it is the cat's meow - to be in harmony with the channel.
@@henya2409 the rocket is super!
I have 2 runs in the on cloudboom echo 3 and I love them I can't say that they are good for a marathon but for 5k and 10k they perfect.
They remind my my of Takumi sen 8 in terms of firmness of the midsole.
Yes they are expensive but for me works better they any other super shoes on the market.
Because they have this Pebax foam they are nothing like other on shoes this ones are my first pair.
I don't really understand why some many reviewers said a lot of bad things about the shoe.
For me Takumi sen 8 is from my point of view the best shoes ever made so far and this one from On comes along but in terms of mony and value I will stick with Takumi, I use the On shoe by doing intervals.
I was more curious to see how the shoes are and I am glad I did they are a delicious treat.
I like the Cloudstratus 2 a lot…and this looks exactly like it with no changes whatsoever
Thanks Ed. The cynic in me thinks that this brand was created to break into a very competitive premium end of the running shoe market and the 'cloud technology' was dreamt up to differentiate it, not because it works any better than a traditional foam midsole.
Their latest performance shoe seems to pretty much do away with the holes!
Maybe this is a nice premium leisure shoe, that you can run in?
Yes no holes in the race shoe.
Few comments after running on other ON, including the v1 of the Cloudstratus. ON shoes are hard and they require long breaking periods, then they become a bit softer. Not Endorphin soft, but softer. Quality is superb. Durability, phenomenal. But I still cannot run on these, too harsh. Perhaps this v3 proves me wrong. The Cloudsurfer seems to be better in that regard as they removed the useless speedboard. That said, I retired my v1 after 300 kilometres and used them as walking shoes. For that they are very good and comfortable. But this experience is largely based on v1.
I’m still not seeing a lot of ON shoes out on the roads. However it does appear that a lot of people in the healthcare field are replacing their Hoka Cliftons and Bondis with this shoe.
Would like to see a comparison of the cloudstratus 3 vs the new cloudmonster 2
amazing review! love it mate! I think in my opinion that the shoe is way to heavy. and is not worth it. even the price.
Thanks for watching. It’s not all that heavy just could be lighter with some material changes
That looks like a casual shoe to me.
It'll be interesting to see if On move away from the Cloud style midsoles. It seems like their USP could be the thing that is holding them back. I bought a consignment of fire damaged industrial smoke alarms yesterday, do you know any businesses that are going to catch fire? 🔥
It’s their trademark thing. But the other two types of sole in their line up are very different. Even early morning it was 🔥out there.
I have an original pair in black and after 100 miles there is no wear to the exposed foam.
Use them for daily out and about wear walking the dog as I am on a pair of Nike wild horse 8 for my trail/grass field runs.
Genuine question: does anyone actually think On make good shoes for running? I live in Zürich, so they have huge market share here due to Swiss loyalty, Roger Federer's involvement, sponsorships etc. I see way more people wearing them casually than running on the roads/trails. It just seems that the midsole design is sketchy - not very durable, adds no significant improvement over competitors' shoes and are really high priced. I think their apparel looks great but seems their shoes have a way to go to be any good/value for money.
More and more people using them for running here.
Here Edd ? Your voice is familiar we’re you ever on radio 6? Or other station ? Enjoying the reviews
I would to one day work for the radio!
Always look forward to a new video. My vapourfly 2's in less than 100km have come unstuck from the uppers, will super glue damage them ?.
Interesting. Do you run in warmer temps? Never seen the uppers come away.
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Good morning Edd, I have the Cloudstratus 2 and would agree with your verdict but for different reasons. The upper fits my wider foot very well and it doesn´t feel too warm to me. But I don´t really have made up my mind about the midsole. To me the landings feel firm (forefoot striker) and I don´t get much energy back but the outsole/midsole feels grippy and well damped without being unstable. The ride feels kind of unremarkable if reliable. Here in Germany we have to pay 180 € for the old version (startin price) and 190 € for version 3. To me that is outrageously overpriced but still, the shoe is not that bad that I would want to send it back. On paper (pun alarm) the Superblast should be miles ahead of this one but it (my sample) gives me pain in the achilles tendon (way too soft). I´m curious about your take on the Cloudsurfer. I didn´t order this one because the reviews say that the fit in the forefoot would be alot narrower.
Bring it On, Edd :)
Yeah it’s not a energy returner as such. More a good cushion in the back. Grip on point but the midsole approach does limit the use case a little
Hi, love your channel!!!
So I'm just getting into running(extremely fit and capable) and watched about 50 hours of different videos on high performance shoes:)
I'm not really exaggerating...😬
Here's my list
I'm wanting a shoe that does everything REALLY WELL if possible.
Also I have taken up sprinting for about 50 yards so I'm also wanting a non spiked shoe to do 50 yard HIT training..
Any and all suggestions welcome.
One shoe to rule them all would be great, But if I really am needing two shoes to do both short distance running and sprinting that is fine. Doesn't matter about the budget. I just want what makes the best sense, But it would be nice if one shoe like the SUPERBLAST might do both really well..
Thoughts ???
-ASICS NIMBUS 25
-ASICS SUPER BLAST
-Puma DEVIATE NITRO elite 2
-HOKA MACH 5😊
-Nike Pegasus turbo SE
-NIKE PEGASUS 39
Any suggestions on shoe that I can sprint in and do short distance training in?
One shoe for both or do you recommend 2?
Please help😬
Still feel the Cloud Surfer 7 is still the only On shoe worth buying. Cloud Boom Echo 3 is a good shoe but no better than the other super shoes out there, I love their apparel but I'm not a fan of the shoes barring the one already mentioned.
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Edd....come on. We need a "more midsole than man" t-shirt and hoodies 😅
Will see what I can do
I’ve got the Cloudsurfer. Just find them…dull. Ten years since my last On running shoes, likely 10 years until my next.
Sounds like it does a similar thing to this one
Thanks Edd. I guess even if you hate the shoe, running with a bug hotel underfoot is a real boon for insects and creatures of all kinds…
At least they have somewhere to live
in UK size, you need to go up half a size, ala newbalance/hoka/adidas
I haven’t found that. Ok true to size for me.
you have "low volume" feet tho right ;)
Hi Ed, can we have a video on running hats, please?
I have many of those, will do a review round up on gear soon
@@EDDBUD nice! 👍
I'm thinking of either getting the nike streakfly or the addidas adios 8 for my cross country races. Which of these 2 would you recommend. (Courses consist of mostly dirt, crass and hills)
Cross country? If you mean uk cross the mud and wet won’t work with the steakfly. For dry conditions the streakfly is much lighter than the Adios 8. More compressive.
Sir what about nike zoom tempo next percent is the good daily running shoe..... Or what you suggest as a daily running shoe
For daily stuff the Pegasus is your best bet.
@@EDDBUD Pegasus which model I mean to say which model no can you please tell the whole name of the shoe
How are on shoes for flat feet
They don’t have a very high arch
@@EDDBUD perfect, because my ASICS have such bad Arch support I had to stop wearing them
Need help trying to find a running show for someone that runs more on their toes/forefoot. Please help
Look at something with a lower stack or mainly forefoot to midfoot foam
I land on the balls of my foot running slow, fast, or just walking, and I can tell you first-hand drop doesn't matter. It comes down more to having a level platform and having the same amount of cushion from heel to toe to make the ride feel as natural as possible. A wider forefoot/ toebox helps too for better stability because you're using less foot and weight to land. Forefoot strikers are landing on that flexable part of the foot, so having some flexability where your foot flexes helps for that smooth transition onto your toes. A late stage rocker like a toe rocker is ok as long as it starts after the point of your landing. Myself speaking, I have no problem landing forefoot on the 9mm drop of the Nike Invincible 2 or the 10 mm drop of Puma Volocity 2. The 5mm drop of the Hoka Mach 5 makes me land midfoot where the 5mm drop of the Topo Cyclone 2 is perfect. If you don't mind ground feel and a mild arch and dont overly pronate, the Cyclone 2 is great and works best for me as a forefoot striker.
Isn't ON a lifestyle brand? Do they make any serious running shoes? I have never encountered any.
Is Nike a lifestyle brand now? How about adidas and the Yeezy shoes?
Oh, Nike has made more $ from lifestyle shoes for decades! But they still have a few gems in racing shoes. I can't think of one ON that I would actually run in. A friend's local running store had a visit from a very persuasive ON rep and was gushing about ON for a few weeks, until she had some miles in the shoes, and customers were bringing them back.
On is a completely over hyped “shoe of the moment”. Most who buy don’t even run and is simply a lifestyle shoe. There is nothing soft or cloud like about any of these compared to it’s competitors.
Have you tried the shoe?
#bringbackthebeacon
Lifestyle shoe 🙄
No it’s not.
Those holes are a marketing gimmick, they make no sense from an engineering perspective.
It provides a good cushion. More impact protection than propulsion.
Have u seen the Michelin Uptis tire ?
@@runeveryday1069 Awesome stuff! Really interesting new tech
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nay. all those ONs with cloudtec just seem so gimmicky to me. of course it's their dna but just not for me, thanks.
It’s a good cushion. But more impact protection for me.
Cant knock them until you try them. Cloudmonster, Cloudsurfer and this new Cloudstratus are great, don’t bother with the others. On have some winners now for any runner
@@hawkseyy Enjoyed this one way more than the monster. Keen to try the surfer.
[My UA-cam channel provides free coaching videos for runners] Great review Edd, and appreciated. It wasn't that long ago I didn't really know On existed, but now, they have my attention and consideration for sure. Have a couple of On's on my "to buy" list.
Keen to try the cloudsurfer now
This shoe promotes pronation.... need to say more?
Not sure it promotes it to be honest.
@@EDDBUD when I see the back of the foot sinking that much just by walking it is red light for me.